Mass Effect: 5 Things They Never Told You About Reapers
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- In this video, we're going to be discussing the reapers, one of the most mysterious and talked-about enemies in the Mass Effect series. We're going to be revealing 5 secrets about the reapers that Bioware never wanted you to know.
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0:00 Intro
0:47 A False Name
2:21 Harvest's True Statistics
4:54 Reaper Sound
6:26 Andromeda & Deep Space
8:46 Cthulhu Mythos & Star Trek
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Ah, yes, 'Reapers'. The immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed this claim.
Sovereign is real!
The reapers are real!
Ah yes, "Shepard". That single primitive humanoind that allegedly foiled you at every turn. We have dismissed this claim.
@@ChuckNorrisIsNothing We'll get our best on it, not indoctrinated Saren
I wish there was an option in 3 to show the councilors that recording during your first meeting with them.
@@kingd8468They would said Saren faked the video or said it was a geth ship
"You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."
This line perfectly encapsulates the pride of the Reapers.
Arrogance, not pride
Arrogant and presumptuos like the Leviathans who still think of themselfes as "apex race" despite the fact they are almost whiped out by their own creation and its creations.
I use the same line on my kids at least twice a week. 😂
@@timothybrandriff6499 🤣
"We are the harbingers of they salvation. Prepare them for the ascension." also encapsulates they true morbid, but noble goal.
Fun Fact: I actually wrote a paper on Lovecraft and Mass Effect in college. Essentially Mass Effect is hopeful cosmicism.
Oh? Would love to read it :)
@@joakim482 I'll see if I still have it.
@@The-Random-Hamlet interested as well! Did you find the paper by any chance?
@Levitor I did, but something I forgot is that it was written like a research paper, not a literature paper. Which means it's not the most enjoyable to read. I would want to rework it a bit to share it.
@@The-Random-Hamlet Then please, take your time. Either in it's original form or after have gone through a rework, I'd still be interested in reading it :)
My favorite reaper quote?
"You fight against inevitability. Dust struggling against cosmic winds."
"Nazara. That is what the programs within the reaper called themselves. Sovereign was a name given by Saren Arturius. Saren and the heretics believed Nazara to be a supreme ruler... A sovereign."
Interestingly, while looking for this quote, I found out that Nazara is an old Hebrew word meaning 'to watch'.
I always hypothesized that Nazara was the name of the species harvested. Still a cool little tidbit given that sovereigns role was to watch and assess the current cycle
One small correction to the harvest pods. Dr Chakwas was able to see what was happening to those around her, so there was no sensory deprivation going on there.
The reason why they never told you about Reapers is because the Council have dismissed the claim
sounds like The New Republic
I think the dialogue with Sovereign was made before Bioware knew what they wanted the Reapers to be. Thats why it would seem it talks with malice and hate towards organics
That or one of the creators left leaving others to fill in the gaps
Didn't their biggest writing name leave after the first game? Drew Karpyshyn.
@@Fizz-Pop yes and I suspect his departure is why the reapers changed
Ah yes, the Andromeda initiative was created off of fear and not adventure. Just like the game itself.
ZING!!
Eh. The game is actually fun, the best in the series actually. And has interesting characters. The only bad thing I can say about it is, the story isn’t as good as the trilogy
@@CommanderShepard-wq3wo I wouldn't go that far to say it's better than the trilogy. Playing as a vanguard with a sniper rifle is pretty fun for me. But the combat in MEA is a lot better and I hope we get that with a better story in ME4.5
LOL fucking got em
@@CommanderShepard-wq3wo EXCUSE ME?!
Fantastic editing on this, the indoctrination sprinkled in is perfect. Really showing your chops as a dedicated fan of both ME and DA! I had no idea husks are just rejected reaper food! Neat!
In Dragon Age you can hear the reaper sound as well :'D
The Reapers having no presence in the Andromeda Galaxy and having little interest in ships fleeing there makes sense from a lore perspective. The Catalyst was programed first and foremost to preserve organic life in the Milky Way Galaxy by the Leviathans. According to the Catalyst's dialogue, those mission parameters have never changed. So from the way an AI thinks, it would be outside of it's mission parameters to waste resources outside of the specified mission area.
would the reapers even know about the andromeda initiative? i mean sure they might know that some people wanted to go to andromeda but the reapers came to the galaxy via the se corner of the galaxy map and based on where andromeda is in real life the initiative would likely have left the milky way via the sw. yes they both would have crossed deep space but the distances are so vast and the initiative was all so hush hush at the end there that they likely wouldn't know that they actually left
This may be an interesting concept, because there may be SUPER advanced civilizations in other galaxies that have mastered not just space travel between systems but between entire galaxies, but they've left the Milky Way alone because the Reapers kept showing up. Maybe they tried to make contact, hundreds of cycles ago, but realized it was a death sentence for any of their people they sent, and so just dipped out. Imo meeting a civilization like that would be a super cool concept and could maybe even give some major lore drops in regards to Reapers/past cycles.
@@bubblybobabubblesto build on that concept, maybe there are multiple civilizations of the past, such as the Jardon, who were originally from the Milky Way but left during a reaper invasion and the remainder of their species was killed. So it may not be that there are just other civilizations outside of the milky way trying to contact or help it, but maybe previous civilizations that survived the harvest entirely.
So shook by the trash can fact
Learning about the reason behind the Initiative going to Andromeda was the Reapers, it well always put tears in my eyes. As well as fear in my heart.
yeah and knowing that by the time they could hear those messages - it was already hundreds of years in the future.
I have a feeling the Leviathan will be the source of conflict in the next game
I hope not. Way too similar to the Reapers.
I think they should scale back the whole "The entire galaxy is at stake!" thing.
Just because if the stakes are always as high as the can possibly be, you can't ever make things more urgent, more dramatic.
Love the videos on ME. When you mentioned the influence of Lovecraft and the Call of Cthulhu I immediately thought about the Leviathan dlc and how I thought, at the time, how quaint it was that it was like a mystery novel. Now I understand why.
All of these things they actually did tell us. A lot even in cutscenes.
We are the vanguard of your destruction - it was incoming message ringtone for several years.
Makes me so happy to see some Mass Effect content! The trilogy will forever be one of my favorite series of all time. Great video 🎉🖤
“Dust struggling against cosmic winds.”
Andromeda even with it's flaws still had such potential for a great story. Unfortunately because the hate wagon killed any future games for it, we will never see that potential
They're still looking at booting it up again, have faith
Killed the DLC which would have likely been awesome and took down a whole studio-arm, that then got merged into EA. Sucks big ones.
Hey, it wasn't our fault they gave us a shatted on product on launch. No matter how good a game is, it could have the perfect story and gameplay, but if the bugs on it keep destroying the immersion and the pacing, it's gonna suffer a catastrophic fail. Sure, you can fix it with several patches like Andromeda, but the main damage was already done.
@@danielm.595 you never grew up in the 8, 16 or 24 bit era did you? Back then games never had good graphics and it was a story in such that kept us coming back. Who cares if game doesn't run on 1080p or whatever graphics are have 4K surround-sound whatever. It's a game that keeps you coming back. It's the story, it's the characters
Haha the end “assuming control” was hilarious
The Reapers also reminded me of the Shadows from Babylon 5.
Iconic sound, acient being fom a far of era of the universe, appear every few thousand years to wreck advanced civilization and then retreat to let others rise up ...
yeah ...
Kinda. Except Reapers wanted to extermine species while preserving only a genetic memory of them, like living museums, while the Shadows perpetuated conflict for the sake of galactic evolution and growth. Their goal was to help species flourish, not exterminate them. So while both are bad, Reapers are far worse IMO.
Great video, I can't believe I never caught the Lovecraft connection before
Great video, but deep space refers to the space between solar systems, the reapers hide in dark space, the space between galaxies. Makes me wonder what the space between galaxy clusters is called and what can hide there.
Just recently found your channel, it's my new favorite Bioware lore/info source on UA-cam, great work.
Surprised the reapers didn't catch wind of this an send a detachment of forces to hunt them, but ryder has control of meridian so I think they would be able to defeat the last of the reapers
Before the release of Andromeda, the developers themselves said that the Reapers were not interested in other Galaxies
yeah i always thought it would be so cool if a small group of reapers followed them to andromeda. idk why they didn't go with that. have them show up in the end wouldve been a perfect tease for a next game * shrug *
@@DekkarJr Who do you think has the fastest speed?
Reapers who have existed for 1 billion years. Or races that have been in space for 3000 years?
If the Reapers had followed the Arks, they would have caught up with them very quickly
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Can reapers move at FTL? I've never seen them do it
@@DekkarJr And how do you think they flew so fast from intergalactic space? O_o
Let me remind you that the Reapers are hiding in intergalactic space. In ME1, they are said to hide far away from the Milky Way to avoid being found.
These are gigantic distances. And in six months, the Reapers flew from their base to the Milky Way
Your stuff has always been really well presented from the start. Succinct videos like this will appeal to Mass Effect fans and well as piquing the interest of newcomers to the franchise. I occasionally watch videos exploring game franchises I have heard of but never played.
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I read somewhere the original ending for ME3 was leaked before the game launched, and the writers changed it at the last minute. The original ending revealed that the galactic population using Mass Effect dark energy was causing stars to age rapidly (like the planet in ME2 that Tali was studying) and destroying the universe. The Reapers reaping the galaxy was actually them saving the galaxy from all collective biotic users. I liked this ending better, because when Sovereign and Harbinger say "We are beyond your comprehension," not understanding the full extent of Mass Effect dark energy fits better than the Reapers using our DNA to reproduce and make new Reapers. And it gives the Mass Effect title more relevance.
But more importantly, you lookin' hot, Saria ;)
That ending wasn't leaked, it was changed due to Mac Walters becoming the head writer instead of Drew Karpyshyn like he was in the first game. He and Mac worked in the second game together as co head writers as a transition for Mac to take over completely in the third game. Who in turn with Casey Hudson's approval gave us the pick your color endings.
And unfortunately the dark energy theory had some plot holes. Including the fact that the Mass Relays use dark energy as well. And since the Reapers created the Mass Relays and use them to guide each civilization down the path they want, it made them look hypocritical and stupid for trying to get rid of the dark energy problem. Plus, the original ending involved Shepard having to choose between letting the Reapers complete the harvesting of humanity in order to create a Reaper that could destroy dark energy (it's why the proto Reaper looked human), or refuse and hope humanity finds its own way to stop the dark energy problem. Because apparently only humans are unique/special enough to stop the dark energy problem, which sounded really stupid and arrogant considering all the other species in the galaxy.
@@jillgrimwater3726 Interesting, thanks for the correction. That definitely is a plot hole. But I still wish the Reapers had more complex motives
@@MechLock1198 don't we all. Maybe there was a time when the writers did want to make them that way, probably before EA bought Bioware.
@@jillgrimwater3726while you are right in what you say I believe if Drew had been the lead writer on all 3 games he would have found a way to make the dark energy ending work and make sense. It was only an outline he had for the ending after all which obviously would have been focused on a lot if he worked on ME3.
@@BeautyIsJustAMask I hope you're right. But he usually doesn't give happy endings to his stories (the first three tie in novels), and he really likes to make his villains get away with some horrible things.
Reapers are pretty cool. I'd love to collect reaper models and paint them up if there was ever a tabletop wargame for mass effect like Star Wars Legion or Warhammer.
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Your in-depth knowledge of the Mass Effect universe gave me weak knees.
Love the fact that two most iconic sounds in sci-fi were random sounds like the reapers is a rubbish bin and the tie fighters are elephants sounds sped up
Hey there, Saria. Was just curious as to which video in your library refer to the Reapers ability (or lack thereof) to find the deep space Arks. Watched all of your ME content and don't remember seeing that anywhere, so a link would be much appreciated as that did pique my curiosity. Just wasn't enough so to make me play Andromeda >.>
Here is the video! ua-cam.com/video/r2t4pZ5F6K4/v-deo.html
“This exchange is over” use that a lot in real life. Good at shutting people down
Great vid. Assuming direct control!
I feel that you can only draw 60 per cent inspiration from Lovecraft. Any more and you write yourself into a corner with only 2 outcomes: the protagonist goes mad (the Lovecraftian solution); or a magic, Devine machnical hand descends from the heavens to pluck the hero out of danger. This is what i think makes ME3's ending seem forced and unsatisfactory. See, they loved the underdog trope because it's an easy sell and ME2 empowered Shepard and the Nomandy 2 far too much. I would argue that all the Reapers didn't need any further increases to power as their number, tactics, ability to rapidly assimilate and convert an enemy's army, and superior firepower. ME3 had everything already set up in it's missions and by the end the Galaxy had the smallest chance of success. But no, they had to keep building them up that they had to create the most hated character in all sci fi: the Star child.
I didn't know about the trash can being the origin of the reaper sound. Too cool.
Also, why do nearly all reapers look like leviathan? If they're making reapers based on the civilizations they conquer where are the prothean-looking reapers? They all look like kinda like beetles to me.
Those are the Reaper ships; the core of each Reaper ship is the amalgam of the harvested species, so that Human Form Reaper at the end of ME2 would have eventually been put into one of those squid ships. In reading around, it seems they settled on the Leviathan's form as an effective standardized ship design.
@@NormalPersonCommenting no kidding??? I was all prepared to see a whole fleet of human-shaped reapers! Or a Krogan reaper!
@@ChaoticOrcPaladin The idea of a Sovereign-sized Krogan dropping down onto a planet is certainly a fun one lol
@@NormalPersonCommenting yes!!!
The worst part of Andromeda was seeing "was shepard male or female" in the character creation and the only reason was to say he/she
Some days I feel like I could sleep for 50,000 years 😋
Already knew all this
Liara: I don't know if you're arks left the galaxy...
Umm Liara you are literally the best information broker in the galaxy, BS you don't know. The Andromeda team really didn't know how to handle the previous games canon.
Favorite reaper quote? Nothing tops "assuming control."
I heard the developers added infrasound to the Reaper Horn to induce an extra sense of anxiety when the player hears it.
Except Bioware did tell us all of this about the Reapers, if you paid attention to the information in the games. Also Reapers were not designed to travel in "Dark Space" but only retreated there to hibernate between Harvests. Given that Reapers viewed themselves as "Pinnacles of Evolution" they probably never attempted to overcome the problems with traveling in Dark Space. This would mean they would likely never be able to reach Andromeda to begin with. And while Reaper Eezo cores are immensely powerful, they can not sustain a powered up Reaper for thousands of years. This is even stated by the Reapers that they must shut down to minimal levels while they wait for new civilizations to rise up and be ready to harvest.
Man... I first read Mass Effect 5... damn...
I love the garbage bin sound. Now I hear that sound and I imagine C-3PO reeling stories to Ewoks.
Everyone talking about what's gonna be happening in Mass Effect 5.
I just want more time with Tali :(
Tali'Zhora vas Normandy
I must admit it was kind of hard to take Sovereign seriously after they said, "Organic life is nothing, but a genetic mutation."
Technically, it's not wrong: all life forms we see today have genetically mutated from an earlier form of life. But I get what you mean.
Had the line been "Sentient life is nothing but a genetic mutation"...would have been more scary.
@@pauls478 I guess, but there isn't genetic mutation without organic life. It's just a really weird statement.
Your line is much better.
It paints the Reapers in a light of corrupt purpose. They exist to protect organic life, yet they view it as insignificant.
The fact they are technological in nature...they must have a consensus to agree on action and create the algorithm that makes all reapers hibernate for said specific amount of time since its virtually a standby mode on your PC.
would've been cool if the reapers had run into teh andromeda expedition in dark space and followed them to Andromeda :D
I just played through all 3 games in quick succession, and now I’m suffering from a serious bout of Post Series Depression. Lore videos like this is often my coping method 😂
That and listening to the soundtrack a bunch lol
Boy do I have the series for you. Dragon age origins has way more character choice, the combat is different and it’s an older game but it is the perfect next step to mass effect. It’s by BioWare as well, there’s a whole series of games.
i thought it's a saw tuned really low ... had the same sound as deadmau5's 777
The lovecraftian part of Mass Effect is why the story and the games are so captivating and surreal, because it plays with our own real fears. We hardly know what really happens outside of our own solar system and we have only mapped perhaps 5% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Who knows what is to be discovered in the other 95% of space in just this one galaxy. And then to remember that we are part of a super cluster which contains hundreds of galaxies. And that our supercluster is only one of endless other clusters. That means we only have an idea of what even les than 0.1% of the universe looks like
Basically everything was unknown to me except the first fact and the 4th
I just came to the realization the the crucible is just a Halo array but for synthetics if you pick the destroy ending
Those weren’t exactly the Reapers in ME2. The Collectors are Prothens that were captured, ect. By the Reapers and they went through extensive genetic reworking to the point of not even being Prothen anymore, just tools that work and communicate through a hive mind. They were tools As Saren and the Geth were when they aided Sovereign. I like the video you did, but I’d enjoy watching you do a deep dive on not just the Reaper’s as an individual force, but go deeper and explore and explain the agents, tools, and the effects Indoctrination had on certain characters and the story as a whole. I hope I was helpful in some way or gave you ideas for perhaps new content 😊
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Considering ME goes by Kilotons and not Gigatons of force. It has been heavily debated that Halo ships, Starcraft, Star wars, etc... Would absolutely be able to go toe to toe in conventional battle against the reapers. I do not say curb-stomp as reaper lasers are in essence millions of shards of molten slag metal being fired at near light speed, which would rip open anything that isn't shielded or armored to the extreme. Not to mention they literally clone and spawn millions of troops for ground battle while also using the dead to replenish their ranks. So I won't say it would be easy but the other universes would have a better time in dealing with them.
For starters, ME cannons go by kilotons of force which the reapers have been shown to tank easily enough with sustained fire over a long period being able to finally take one down. Halo MAC cannons on the other hand range from the weakest prewar frigates being 58.7 kilotons. (Lore is vague on it and had to do a bit of research) To Super-Mac's that...get this have a yield of approx. 51.63 GIGATONNES of force, or in other words 1000x the power of the Tsar Bomba. Which was the most powerful nuke ever created in irl history. Super-Mac's would cleave through Harbinger class ships like knife through butter. Thoughts?
Why do you need some puny Halo tech when you have the might of Imperium of Men and your legion of the space wolf! At your command Lord Russ! The Son of the God Emperor! The reaper will have no chance against your might!
@@ericmacrae6871 aye ye wanted them ta’hav at least a’fair chance. The Imperium will curb stomp pretty much any other universe tha ain’t as bonkers as ours is. Also you have a fine spirit lassy the halls of the Vrka Fenryka will surely welcome ye.
@@lemanruss2491 on a serious note. I was actually thinking more about the Reaper and it has been a few years since I played the game so I forgot quite of bit of the lore and I had to do some research to remind me the lore of the mass affect.
The reaper might not be the most technological advances species in the warhammer 40k universe. However it does not mean that they cannot adapt to more advances tech.
Sure compare to the other species the reapers were the apex predator to any other culture in the milky way galaxy. But we do know that they have the ability to adapt to their circumstances with the diffeent reaper unit ranging and making all kinds of upgrades to their biology.
The MOST devasting weapons that the reaper have among everything else is their indoctrination weapon. That weapon alone makes them an extremely deadly foe. This is the key component that makes them more terrifying than anything else.
We know that they can send indoctrinated species to do their dirty work and have them work in the shadow. Just think about the collectors they were the protheans who did the reaper work while they were hiding in the shadow. We also know that cerbrueus fall under the influence of the reaper.
Indoctrination is something that we cannot underestimates and we KNOW that the Imperium of Men people can fall to the influence of the wispers of the Chaos Gods.
On top of that the Empirum of Men isn't exactly good with their logistic and they tend to have huge problems with communication, supply etc.
Let's pick a scenario the reapers first action will be scouting the galaxy to gather as much info as possible. We know that they are extremely patient and they will gather all the data that they need before they emerge from dark space.
So my first instinct says that they will determine that they can enter the galaxy just yet since their are technologically inferior compare to the other species.
However, they can send *representatives* to the Tau Empire. They know that the Tau would love to do diplomacy with them and offer *great advancement* basically the typical stuff that they would do. Since the Tau are such a naive species and they would jump to the opportunity to work with the reaper.
Without even them knowing they are now under the reaper control fully indoctrinated within 100 years. Using that species they can easily start modify the repear technology with the Tau technology and the reaper have far more resources they can easily make some serious upgrade.
Than they can start having some delegation and start doing other trading with other species such has the vaultan. Oops we have more repear artifact into another species that is slowly corrupting their species.
This process just keep repeating itself over and over and over again. Until they have enough power to simply emerge and start their war.
Their element of surprise is going to be their greatest weapon. Nothing in the Imperium of Men or any other species can prepare for such outcome.
The only species that I can see that the indoctrination will not work is the Necron. Even tyranid can succumb to indoctrination. Just think about how that hive mind science in ME (I'm forgetting what they are called) indoctrination STILL WORKS ON THEM.
Just think about the millions of hive world that the Imperium of Men has and they don't know what they lurk in the shadow. Yet, it wouldn't take much for a hive world to fall for indoctrination.
This is the one I loved when I played the game, it was SO powerful and chilling at the same time.. ua-cam.com/video/8OLBXJ9MngE/v-deo.html Mass Effect 3 - Rannoch Reaper Conversation
The sound Sovereign makes is a garbage can lid, but I'm pretty sure the reaper horn is something else. The reapers in part 3 sound completely different from Sovereign.
Now I'm just fighting giant garbage cans. thanks. lol
"Confidence born of ignorance"
I'm curious what role the reapers are going to play in Mass Effect 5
Or 4, with Andromeda as a spin off title.
We'll have to see what they go with.
Also presumably none whatsoever as their story is 100% finished.
considering BioWare's canon is the destroy ending they'll likely railroad us into that and have the Reapers just completely out of the picture
@@Fr0st1989have they stated they consider it cannon?
@@Fr0st1989 this is just speculation for the moment.
They Will probably be not a direct threat but there could be problems with indoctrination
Even a dead god can Dream After all
Should have asked Leviathan what their real name is I guess...
The reaper sound used to intimate me... guess that ain't happening again. 😅
The even more terrifying sound is the Asari Banshee. They are even more terrifying in multiplayer on ME3 because they removed the howl.
@@02091992able Banshee Scream *Vietnam Flashbacks*
I've always wondered why the reapers are only present in the milky way galaxy and no where else.
Andromeda does have any reaper activity? No other galaxy had encountered them? Whats so special or scary about our galaxy that make the reprars want to contain us?
"We Simply... Are" -Sovereign
Reaping is another Term to Harvest hence there Name Reapers fits they Harvest any sentient species
Reapers, also known as 'Yo dawg'
could you just imagine sovereign showing up to andromeda and start bullying the kett? XD
Kett: Who the fuck is this guy?
Ryder: You but better.
i cant wait for mass effect 4 release date soon?
I swear your voice sounds so familiar and my comment keeps getting deleted for some reason but did you use to run a channel called the truth factory as a talking cat?
The reapers don't hibernate for 50.000 years. It took this cycle 50.000 years to achieve the required technology level. They hibernate for however long it takes the races of the next cycle to achieve that level.
I never knew about the trash can. We are Borg... I am sorry I mean the Reapers.....
Knowing the lore behind the Reapers makes me view them much like I do Megatron.
I wouldn't hate them.
But I wouldn't have a choice but to face off against them.
I don’t see that sound representing the reapers as them being trash. I see them as the trash can collecting the garbage. =p
We may have won the war, but is the treat from the Reapers truely over? We'll have to wait and see.
the reapers are basically just big dan dumpsters lol
Is kidnapping victims to make into new reapers considered reaper foreplay or reaper reproduction?
They’re real, they’ve done this to earth, our own history shows these missing periods and they’re on the way back.
The only problem with Castis talking about the Reapers is that it accidentally retcons part of the trilogy's timeline. The Andromeda Initiative takes flight before the start of Mass Effect 2, but Garrus doesn't tell his father about the Reapers until nearly right before the start of the third game. Plus that cheap copy and paste texture of Kandros with different colors that they put on Castis still made me angry 😠.
You are slightly wrong. The developers themselves said that the Arks went to Andromeda between ME2 and ME3.
If I misunderstood you, then I apologize
@Максим Иванов you didn't misunderst him so yes he was slightly wrong. Even then it doesn't make sense because the recording implies that it took place after ME3 since it was at that time where the Repaers showed up
After hearing all of this why would anyone pick synthesis or control?
i mean obviously they real name is cuddle fish :)
One thing I’ve never understood about the reapers or mass effect in general is why in ME2 they were making a reaper in the shape of a human. Why weren’t they making one in the shape of all other reapers?
The human reaper you see in ME2 is just the core, the inside, of a Reaper. Then they would build octopus armor around it
@@Trattato68 why does it have to be human shaped, why is it armed and able to move, and why does the core have a core
I have played Andromeda and I enjoyed it but I did not unlock the final memory. Why is the Andromeda initiative only meant to save humanity when all the other Milky Way species are also in danger of being wiped out and also sending their people to Andromeda? Did you misspeak or is that really what the memory shows?
It states ‘their species’ which yes I paraphrased to humanity since Alec is the Pathfinder of the human Ark to Andromeda.
@@sarialue ok, thank you. Great video!
The reapers were such an interesting and existential beyond comprehension antagonist that was completely undermined by the last 30 minutes of the game. The Star Child has to be one of the worst examples of a deux ex machina device in the history of story telling. I still hold to the "Indoctrination Theory" which if it turned out to be true would have been one of the greatest mind f***s in any piece of entertainment.
Nicely put together! Loved the trash can detail. But no link between Mass Effect and Babylon 5? An ancient machine race that lurks in the depths of space, bent on the domination of organic life and working through corrupted human agents who they place under their thrall to prepare for their return, being opposed by a coalition of all sentient life lead by a human soldier-turn-diplomat that must settle all of the galaxy petty squabble to build a united front against the enemy? Including a race against time to build an ancient super weapon to turn the tide of battle in a couple of spots.
I will eat my hat if it at least a couple of the BioWare writers of ME ain't Babylon 5 fans.
Yeah, I was surprised too. I played ME trilogy first and I watched Babylon 5 a few years later and I was shocked by how much in common those two franchises have.
Ya know the reapers is actually good it's like what Thanos was doing. Sometimes you need to sacrifice to give life
The reapers are good, the reapers are great, we'll worship the reapers as of this day.
It's disturbing to think Mass Effect 2 implies Reapers are made by previously harvested species and that somewhere, there was likely also a Prothean Reaper amongst others
Reapers did intend to build a Prothean Reaper but failed, so they turned Protheans into Collectors instead.
And it makes me wonder since the finishing of the Initiative are fasten because of what Shepard's found while that time its already engaging with sovereign business which means that the reapers are already awaken from their 50.000 years of hibernating or sleeping or anything where I agree with some comment below or above who believed that dark spaces is somewhere between Milkyway and Andromeda, so how could they escape the old machine? is it because the Initiative starts to depart while the reapers are on the move to harvest the Milkyway, so their path weren't crossing, or the Reapers let them go just like that.
I am sorry if my English is bad.
Before the release of Andromeda, the developers said that the Reapers were not interested in other Galaxies. That is, they are only interested in the Milky Way. That is, they do not care about everything that is outside the Milky Way
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m I know that but for what I've meant by "the dark space" is the reapers whereabout when they in hibernating state. at some point it could be somewhere between the Milkyway and Andromeda, isn't it possible they cross path with the reapers when the initiative takes leave from the Milkyway.?
Or maybe your point is that it doesn't matter because they already leave the Milkyway so even though they are crossing path, the reapers let them go just like that.?
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"Or maybe your point is that it doesn't matter because they already leave the Milkyway so even though they are crossing path, the reapers let them go just like that.?"
Yes
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m I see, I get it, it's weird but in some way it is makes sense..
It is possible to calculate the approximate location of the Reapers hibernation in Dark Space. There are a few things need to know and know:
1. Need to find out which side of the Milky Way is Andromeda;
2. We were shown at the end of ME2 that the Reapers are flying towards the Milky Way.
In September 2186, the Reapers flew to the edge of the Milky Way and attacked the territory of the batarian Hegemony. It was from the territory of the batarian Hegemony that the Reapers began to spread throughout the territories of the other states of the Milky Way.
So. What do we need.
We need a map of the Galaxy where the territory of the Hegemony is indicated.
We need to find out which side of the Milky Way Andromeda is on.
I may be wrong, but I think the leviathan in ME3 utters the reapers real name, but you can’t understand it as it’s in the leviathans language. Don’t quote me on this, though. It’s been about a year and a half since I played through it.
Benefactor is prob illusive man.
I don't think so, TIM wouldn't care about the other races other than humans.
Before the release of Andromeda, the developers themselves said that Cerberus was not related to the Andromeda Initiative
Could have been the Shadow Broker from before Liara took over that role.
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