Non Stop water system..no electricity, no pump, simple and easy
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- Non Stop water system..no electricity, no pump, simple and easy. Today on the farm we'll show you how we set up a passive water system for our livestock...interesting, fun and educational! Hope you enjoy!
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I enjoyed the video. I was born during the depression and lived on a farm in New Mexico, worked on ranches during the time I was growing up.
I just sold my 100 acre farm in Texas and regret it but now in my 9th decade, needed to lighten up some. I really miss living in the country.
Heading over to the obituaries now,
to find out who bought the farm.
You could have raised the 1st portion coming out of pond little higher than the final discharge end. Then fill up the discharge end with water after raising it up a bit. Once the whole tube gets filled with water, put this end in tub. Now this water will start pulling tube/pipe water thus pulling pond water eventually. As long as one end is higher than the other, water keeps flowing..
When laying out any coiled product (example - wire, oh, and poly pipe) always unroll it as you go along or mount on a rack to allow it to unspool as you pull it out. This will prevent most of the (memory) looping you get when you try to drag it off of the side of the coil.
The electricians I worked with called those loops/kinks "A_ _ holes"
Use a container at the start of the pipeline coming from the pond put two breathers one for filling water the other for air once its 3/4 full close both breathers and open the outlet valve.
Enjoyed your video, stay blessed.
Regards from Pakistan
You are a great teacher. Some ppl forget to mention even the small stuff. If I had to do it, I know I could after watching. Great job as usual!
He has passion! And that beats knowledge.
I was looking at building a water screw but this is an easier way to do the job.
Thanks for sharing this.
I'm going to do this in the spring.
I don't have cows but have fowl and multiple gardens that need the water.
Great video! U could anchor the float to a rope and concrete block so the float stays more out in the middle of the water and not come up on the bank of the pond. 12 volt pump can start your prime that connects to battery of the utv.
Take the end with the valve 3/4 the way pack up the hill toward the pond. Open the valve and pour 3 to 4 gallons of water in that end. Close the valve and walk it back down to the trough. lay the valve on the ground and open it. When you are satisfied with the flow place it in its final position to fill the trough.
All you gotta do is THROW ALL THE PIPE in the pond while it's coiled up..... let it fill wilth water....shut your valve.... now take it out and start unrolling down the hill..... when you get to the end you open your valve and PRESTO it starts syphoning.....yup....have a nice day
Another option is to turn off the tap at the bottom and fill the top end with a bucket and a funnel. You only need enough to start the water up and over the wall and then it should clear the air in the line it's self.
At a friends farm they had a buried 2" poly pipe around 500m long and a 10-15m fall. Like a fire hose when it was running.
Only took a couple of buckets to get it going as the water in the pipe falling down the hill would work like a piston in a syringe and draw more water in behind it... and no way you'd suck-start it.
Beat me to it. Almost word for word what I was going to say. 👍
This.
You got it..!
When the black pipe is coiled it'll take a lot of rolling and twisting under water to get all the air pockets out of it. Pouring water through the pipe is an easier way to clear the air, as Spooky88 describes. If you're near a pressurized water source you can attach a hose to get the siphoning hose filled with water.
Good idea. I don't understand the reason for so many idiots clicking on the thumbs down for this video. I had other things going on so didn't listen to all the audio so I might have missed something.
I have done the same thing mainly to keep the cows from wearing down the wall of the tank dam. After having to rebuild the tank dam where the cows made their main trail to it. I fenced around the tank to keep them out of it - onl;y a 30' run of pipe down to the trough with a foat valve. The only problem I have had is remembering to drain the pipe before a freeze or replace the pipe where it splits after the freeze.
just something to think about ,at the top of dam put in another T-junction ,you can then fill with bucket close off T-pice open valve ,also good to make air escape if cows damage line good luck from aust
Amazing guys, as you teach the world of no carbon footprint but you have transported water with a fixed cost only. Thanks.
fill the polypipe with water before laying it out, starting from downhill so that gravity will keep the water in. then all you need to do is open the valve
Setting up water first is best, but as a 69 yo female, I know having available help is not always under your control. Setting up water in all possible paddocks ahead of time would be ideal, but we don't live in an ideal world. I love your channel and appreciate the time you take to video for us.
I have livestock here on Hazy Days Farm. I never rotate without having water in place first.
@Ryan Ripley I understand that, but that's how I do things here. Thirsty or hungry large animals become dangerous.
Joe H, I totally agree. These animals each drink 10+ gallons a day (especially lactating!) and they should have water at all times. If you don’t have water over there yet, haul it until you do, even if it’s just a day. That’s how things are run around here at least.
Fill pipe with bucket and a funnel close the valve make sure exit is lower than the intake the weight of water will suck the water over the top of the dam and gravity will do the rest, cows looking good keep up the good work.
I always use a drill pump that hooks up to my cordless drill and it works great 👍
Yes...use an aquarium vacuum!!!! It's a tube with a bulb syringe in the middle it will start siphoned with just a couple of squeezes . Ive also seen a home made version using a 2 liter bottle. It works by the same premise.
Close the ball valve and take a bucket and fill up the other end. Open the ball valve. You've got water coming out.
Right on that is called priming
Fill the pipe with water and drain the water out to Syphon the water from the lake
The government doesn't like these videos
To hell and back with the government,,they don't mined taking there taxes from your hard earned cash but dam if they would invest in the future of its people totally utterly constitutionally ignorant parasites.
I live in Mexico and we use a system like the toilet once it's filled the valve closes and you never have to keep checking up on it
¡Què buena idea! Es necessario.
@stoney ridge
Nice build.
As others have said fill the pipe with water first from the pond before you bring it all the way down.
You only need to fill up enough to get it over the rise and it it will gravity feed.
As a side note all car engines have a vacuum line. There may be a vacuum line on your work vehicle that I saw in the video. If you ever need to use a vacuum line from an engine you can get 14 bars from a car engine of vacuum from the vacuum line that goes from the engine to the master cylinder. You disconnect the vacuum line to the master cylinder connect it to a collection bottle so you don't get water into your engine and you can vacuum at 14 bar. Any engine will do this like a lawn mower engine that has a vacuum line or that utility truck you have in the video. just make sure you have a collection bottle so you don't end up with water in your engine and keep a good eye on it.
Separately I recommend you do what they do at small micro dams for hydropower. What they do is they take two pieces of logs or wood about 8 or 10 ft long connect them together in an angle and put it in front of your float and siphon. This will keep all the dirt and all the leaves on the other side of the floating wood and not end up in your siphon. Occasionally you go down and just scoop up the leaves if you have to but at least they're not clogging your filter or your siphon.
Take electrical tape and wrap your valve with the black ABS electrical tape to protect it from the sun, then cover it with some black garbage bag to keep the sun out and the weather. This will protect your valve from getting destroyed by the sun and you can turn it on and off without removing the plastic bag by just grabbing it through the plastic bag.
Hope it was helpfu, I enjoyed your build and love to see your form as you create a beautiful life that we get to see.
Be blessed amen.
I have set up similar systems. Best way to siphon is to run a hose to bottom of poly pipe, run water up to pond, then open and let hose water and gravity pull pond water down to act as siphon.
Always enjoy the singing in the beginning and end of every video, the tune simply makes me feel better 👍🏻
Well, I probably would have used a foot valve that has a screen on it and a check valve built into it. That way you hold Prime every time. And they make a little hand pump made out of plastic in a diaphragm called a trash pump. It's made for doing repairs on sprinkler system so you can clear out the water in the hole. That makes a really good primer. Not too expensive either and they last a long time. All you got to do is just clean them out. I did hear irrigation for about 11 years, so There you go. I hope this helps. Love your video
There is small pump which fits to any drill Chuck. Available on eBay cheaply and would avoid the sucking the pipe routine. Obviously once the waters running, it can be removed. Good luck, great idea
Yeppers! I have one now and it works awesome!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer what pump is it
Farm and cows looking good I cant believe you guys have not had the rain that we have had or it don't look like it in the video that ne thing I don't need is more water that's for sure tractor having a hard time getting in the field now thanks for the video josh
My Grandaddy had basically the same setup on top except his float was an old bleach jug, but used an old bathtub for a trough. He covered the faucet end with sheet metal and boards and installed a toilet tank ballcock valve and float where the faucet was supposed to go, it would automatically let water in when it started gettin' low. That way, if we were cuttin' hay or pickin' corn, or whatever, and couldn't get down to the pond that day, which happened a lot with the orchards and fields and hogs and... you know, they'd still get watered. In the winter, we'd have to go bust the ice for 'em, but that was the "slow" time anyway so it wasn't too big a deal. He ran forty head'a black angus and a couple jersey milk cows all the time and it worked exceptionally well all the time for 'em.
Just an idea, you seem pretty handy, couldn't be too hard to figure out, you just have to keep 'em from damaging the float setup.
Oh, almost forgot the most important thing. He kept minnows in it too to catch the bass he had stocked the pond with!
Its a great invention. I have pond and will think about it as an option
Make sure you put benificial bacteria in the pond and areation. Or you can have a pond go toxic later in the season. Then the cows will get sick. Also parisites and disrase can cone from ponds when animals like beavers are in it. Again the cows will be fine until that one day.
so far no cows sick from the water. The ecosystem in my ponds are very healthy
You could use a vaccum cleaner/shop vac to syphen the water. We’ve done that before and it works.
Thats a good Idea. Especially if you have a power inverter to power it off the kabota.
You can siphon gasoline that way, too. It'll explode, but you can do it. Read "Dave Barry's Guide to Guys" for more information.
I did this 20 years ago, but then sold herd. But I used 3/4 AND 1 inch. Worked pretty good. Would not go to 1/2". Also, watch for parasites that cattle can pick up from pond water! I usually used my well for water to the rotational pastures, or two of my natural springs. Purer.
There are hand winding pumps that can help restart if necessary.
thanks for the video,. may be to start the siphon, you can just extend the tube and lower to the ground..
Try a shop vacuum if you have to do it again somewhere, that might save some work and shouldn’t hurt the vacuum if it gets a little wet. Only issue would be getting a generator or power to run the vacuum. Hope this helps
12 volt shop vacs come regular now with a power tool kit. They finally realized the importance of a portable shop vac! great for plumbing, carpentry, any general maintenance , and of course humans are a bit messy.
I used for a similar situation a T-piece and a valve plus a funnel. Means on the long side you insert the T-piece with a valve, maybe 10 feet or so below the dam. Close the valve down at the cow's side, and fill water through the T / valve with the help of your funnel inside the long side of the pipe til the pipe is completely filled. Close the valve, and open the valve down. The water will run down and develop enough vacuum to pull the water out of the pond.
Almost free of cost and done in minutes.
Farm supply stores used to sell an automatic float valve that would keep the tank full without you turning it on and off. I would guess they still sell it. It clamps to the tank and connects to the hose. It should work with your system if the top of the tank is lower than the water supply. No electricity required. A shop vacuum might work to get the siphon started. You could get a small generator to take with you to run the vacuum. You might want to put something there to protect the valve or automatic float valve because animals are somewhat destructive.
Hello... Interesting video.. Have learned something here about what to do.. To avoid livestock from stomping in the trough while filling... IS to set up the trough and fill up... Before letting stock in..
Blessings
Save ur breaths buddy fill out the hose with water first to get the air bubbles out then will be easy to get the water thanx dude ur friend from saudi arabia
Drill a hole big enough for an air nozzle on the end of the line. Activate air nozzle. by forcing air through the poly line, it will create a siphoning effect.
Josh There is a manual pump called a Guzzler used to prime well pumps would work perfect for your application. Available on Amazon. Save your lungs.
There's a pump called a Bunyip Pump,
Its made in Australia the nature of the beast its the only foolproof gravity fed system,,it just floats on the water and can feed an entire farm forever no issues with lift.
Don't tell everyone they will want one,,.
Google: Bunyip gravity pump don't forget to tell John and all your colegues and friends.
Let me know how you get on❤
My grandpa always kept an old gear oil bottle to use to suction on gas and water lines. Squeeze bottle, put in line, let go, get suction eventually without drinking gas.... or old pond water.
Trouble with the comments section is everyone has the best ideas AFTER the job is done, you need to ask the question 1 or 2 videos before you tackle the job 😂👍
Things you could try on the next siphon.
Have a valve near the pond and fill the length of pipe with water so there’s less air to remove.
You could try a wet vac or maybe a hand bike pump you’d need to rig up a branch in the pipe work to open and close when you operate the bike pump to get it started. Or even just have an emergency electric pump on hand you can use to get it started and you can use for different applications
get a 12 volt pond pump and prime your line with it, Once the siphon has started remove the pump. You had 12 volts there with the gator You will thank yourself hundreds of times over for the simple investment
Nick Harrah .... yeah thats a good idea... coz nobody wants
To suck that
Pipe as he did
Nasty, I have in the past, way past with the mouth till I discovered priming the pipe by blocking one side, (times with a cap that has a tiny hole to some allow air out) as I pour water down the pipe at the source. It doesn't have to fill all the way. Once the pipe is lowered while the other is in the source, down comes the water.
@@aureliodinaguit1645
so Right/ No man on earth has lungs strong enough to suck water up a hill.
They also just made a cordless drill pump, attach it at the bottom just squeeze the trigger till the water comes and take the peice off.
it appears that you came along when we used to suck on a pipe in a gas tank to start the gas flow. i have several times, even back when gas had lead in it. either way, you got it running. greetings from the georgia section of Dixie..........g
Pump water up the tube for some seconds and then the water in the tube will drag the pond water into the tube,and presto,the water has sifoned the pond water
Thanks man I like the country life style, but I live here in Los Ángeles, but I also enjoy country life and really like the people of the country, blessings and love and peace for everyone
Great job, fun doing things the natural, simple way. Never thought of the 'float the intake' method, just wrap the intake holes with screen, neat, simple and secure with Zip ties. Wow! Cows loved it too! :>)
Regarding UV resistance for white PVC water pipe... out in the desert, an old-timer advised painting white PVC gold color. Tried it 8 or 9 years ago using spray paint and it's still working well.
You could get a pump that goes on the end of a drill that might work 🤷♂️. Great video.
Those can burn out your drill, though.
That won't work if you're doing it from the "cow" end
Very nice 👍👍 watching from the 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Think you got a glimpse of how that calf got in the water with that other cow hooking it keep up the good work now you need a handling set up for when you need to do some doctor work
simple siphon you tube used suction end of air compressor to suck the siphon to get it started. glade to see you got it going without it. or you can use water to get it going. on top of the rise part have a Tee and stand pipe . fill it with water till the siphon begins you have to have a foot valve at end in the pond. to catch and hold the water till the pipe gets full, or check valve (one way) will do the same.
Josh, Great video! You could have used a shop vac or a drill pump but you made it work. Great to see you're doing great. Bet you don't miss the days in the hospital?
Take a type of tank "larger then a bucket" to the beginning of the water line. Connect water hose to bottom of tank. Have tank above the beginning of the hose from pond,. Using gravity, connect tank hose to beginning of hose line. Let water fill 300 foot hose. Then quickly lower pond hose into pond,. Your siphon has begun,.
You can fill the pipe with water and cap it, put it in place and uncap the downhill side first.
You can get little pumps from a hardware store tgab attach to a drill.
You can buy a small pump that ataches to a batery oporated drill too prime it with or you can purchase a hand pump i bought one out of a northeastern cataloge one time it worked great
13:34 - You only need to siphon to just below the pond level to start the flow: install a ball valve in the poly at a length away from the pond that's over the hill just to just below that level. Then with the valve open the valve and bury the poly in the pond until it completely (with no air) fills with water. Turn off the valve under water. Lift the pipe up over the hill and connect to the rest of the poly. Lastly open the valve . . . TaDa! It's a little more work; but, I'd rather that than take a chance on drinking pond scum. You only half to do that once. Just close the valve before moving the system to a new position to keep the prime.
Absolutely correct but I don't think you must have a ball valve; I think you meant to say a one-way valve, to keep the water flowing backward to the pond under the influence of gravity. A siphon, to work must have the delivery point lower than the source to work at all. But then, if you can meet this condition, it will work wonderfully well. The ball valve is needed to turn the water off when the cattle tank is full. It will keep the water in the hose until more is needed.
They make a float style shut-off, that can be attached at the tank, ... when the water level drops, it opens the valve, & the water flows in, ... only as is needed, ... to fill the tank, ... this will keep the pond from draining dry, & will ensure that the animals have sufficient amount of water to drink, no matter how thirsty they are, ... it comes in different sizes, so order only what you need, ... I have a 1/4” fill type on my garden barrels so that I can keep my plants watered, & I only need check the water level occasionally to make sure that it only dribbles through the water line feeding my garden, ... additional sizes from 1/2”, 3/4”, & 1” are available on eBay, ... took about a week to get the one I have, ... as I only use it for drip irrigation for my garden, ... and this spring, I am going to get a 350 gallon tote for the whole garden, so I can add the necessary nutrients for my plants as well as keep them watered, ...
I like some of the suggestions made.
Also, wud a new gas siphon hand pump work?
@@kansasross Good info. They also call one-way valves: reflux valves, retention valves and we call them check valves at work. And although you could use a one-way valve for the method Against UCE was referring to, I do think that he meant just a regular ball valve. Kinda like the 'finger over the end of a straw method’.
@@johneosmaniii3915 Every toiler has one.
I love your love for those nice little cows, your ingenuity, creativity and enthusiasm!
Use a 12 volt solar water pump and use your battery from the atv run the pump.
That's what I was thinking too.
or simple hand water pump
Get a fish tank hand pump. It's used for cleaning fish tanks. Should work good
I would of put it on a board and drilled through both sides each time you drilled , drilled 2x the holes each time you drilled. Half the time.
Good ideas. A pond with fish, shallow well with hand pump, and chickens is all you need to survive.
They make a hand pump for fish tanks that would work got to ur local Walmart or pet store lol
Your dog has great love with you.so took with yourself when driving don't leave it alone to running with Jeep .
I really love that expertise so how can I get all the equipment so I can close my irrigation farm and I would like if you could get to Tanzania and look at the environment and what it would be like to get some advice from you.Thanx you.
Shut valve off at the bottom, put a T up top with a valve. Open top valve, fill pipe close top valve, open bottom valve.
I'm always a fan of water systems. Gravity fed or otherwise. :) As far as the PVC ball valves not being UV resistant... I believe that you can paint them with latex paint to remedy that problem. Love the videos friend!
Using a check valve on your intake and plunging repeatedly in to the water is a great way to fill a pipe to start a syphon. Once its running hook up your intake under water.
That’s a cool system. Our water system includes breaking Ice everyday. We’re in our coldest month, but spring is on the horizon!!
North Country Off Grid small electric circulation pump and a 12 volt battery, a 12 volt car power plug in and cheap inverter. Even a bait well pump will work and put it just below surface aimed slightly up to surface. Standard outdoor timer to cycle pump every few minutes for a minute will keep it from freezing to until temps get really cold
Gary Porter draw me a map 😬
I really love creativity
If the valve is intolerably to uv could you just spray paint it
I used a wet /dry shop vac. Worked great
There are two easy siphons I know of. Automotive fluid extractors, and a shakes syphon used for old boats.
The easiest way to create a siphon is to take a 55 gallon barrel below the water line of the pound and connect a line from it to your water trough and another line from the pound. Put a ball value just off the barrel. Fill the install a fill pip with a screw cap on the barrel. Use a 5 gallon bucket to fill the barrel. Put the cap on then open the ball value and the water will drain from the barrel to the trough as the water drains from the barrel it will siphon the water from the pound into the barrel. The Barrel will also create a small psi maybe 1-2 psi depending on the drop and length of the line from your barrel to your trough.
In your case, you had 400 feet, I would use 2 inch pipe for the filter and 4-6 inch pipe for the float. Then use 1.5 inch pipe to the barrel. Then use 1 inch pipe from the barrel to the trough. You can also use a ball value at the trough to hold the prime and let the siphon only be at the barrel.
lol sounds easier than just running a pipe lol I love it dude
For the filter it’s a lot easier to use a saw and cut slits in it than it is to drill all those holes.
You could also do some kind of an anchor system to keep the coiling of the pipe from pulling your filter up to the edge where it’s going to touch bottom, all depending on how deep your pond is. You could also set up multiple troughs and have one gravity feed to the other and just put the water in the highest one
Put a valve at the pond, carry water in pails up to the water trough and pour it into the pipe until it's full, lay it in the trough, open the valve at the pond and the weight of the water will start the siphon. A float-valve at the trough would raise you one step above cave-man level.
Will you be attending the National Farm Machinery Show in Louisville next week?
No sir...not gonna make it this year....I wish I had known about it sooner
Hate to hear that. I was hoping to see you there.
With your siphoning, you can get a cheap one from the hardware store. The taste goes away once waters gone through it for a while though, but depends on the grade of poly you use. One trick through is use a bigger inlet pipe (like 1" or 1.5") with a poly coupling at the end to 3/4" and run it for about 5-10 meters from the inlet to the coupling. Take the coupling apart and siphon at that point. There's a lot of water coming out and it creates pressure to the 3/4". Much easier to get it and keep it going.
Yes there is a better way. Close off the valve at the end point, go to the pond, disconnect the hose from the device and fill the hose with water. Open the valve. Once the hose is filled it will flow on its own.
Now stick a float valve through the top side of the water trough and you're all set.
Great way to get water with out electric
Yep
You're talking too much...
I like your siphon and Jay Thomas is absolutely right but to go to a larger diameter pipe ,that way may not be practical. The alternative method may be a little more expensive, in that you will require three valves their fittings and a 'T' piece and a funnel. With one valve at the waters edge, one valve on the other side of the dam as low, below the water level of the pond and one with the 'T'piece at the top of the dam. With the two valves on either side of the dam shut, fill the pipe with a bucket and funnel at the top of the dam, then after shutting off, open the water side valve first, then the bottom one and the siphon will start automatically.
Fill the tube with a column of water.
yes, but use a one-way valve to keep it there until the siphon is established.
This way you have to have a bleeder at other end and hart to fill , the best way is using a 12 v dc water pump working off of your vehicle or booster and connect it to the pipes upper end and keeping the lower end out and up by the pond finally fills up then stick it in the water keep it in and disconnect the pump and put on your valve take it up and over the hill
@@rumsiker You understand the problem very well.
I tried it myself, it works! This is good information, keep it up.
Use a shop vac!!!
I said the same thing before I saw your post.
@@bamascot1 same here guys..👍
And duct tape
Need electricity....
@@joeh4295 He has a generator.
1.Fix all accessories, dip the whole bunch of pipe in the pond, let it filled with water, close the far end value now lay the pipe on the ground, bring it near the cows water stores. Now open the valve here is easy to draw water from pond.
2. Or for the first time use a water pump at the pond, when water reaches to far end, withdraw the pump and fix the filter that is all .
Use one of those small drill attachment pumps you can get on amazon. Chuck it onto a drill and Siphon anything in seconds
On a hot day those pipes will lay flat. Easier to lay out. Plus the water will get warm. May want to think about burying it. Another trick. Tie cables to the pond bank in a couple places. Then connect the float to the cable in the center with a 10 foot connector. This will keep the wind from blowing your float to the bank plus allow it to rise and fall with the pond level
1/2" would restrict water flow too much at that distance.
shop vac or take the hole lenght of hose in to the pond until the hose is full of water and then drag it down the hill
Hey Josh, we all enjoy your video's. You always keep it interesting. A lot of your idea's and projects are very helpful. Another thing is your song writing. Man, you come up with some really good jingles. Awesome
thanks for sharing this video , now I have an idea how to provide water with out electricity
Hi ! Have not watched one of your videos in awhile that was really interesting. 🐄
Welcome back!
Love from Pakistan Miss Cindy
Fill the tubing from the source end . After 1/2 full (approx) open valve at low end. It will flow and pull
A drill pump might work! Or compressed air shot into the line
Great job! Maybe a shop vac would help with suctioning