hi from England. I bought one of these with the little cab. I love it. my friend who is a pro guitarist came round determined to hate it. he begrudgingly had to admit it was a great sounding amp.
Love watching your reviews and the specific issues you bring up across the spectrum of guitar players. So thanks! I’m in the process of buying a Vox MV50 high gain and will be adding a simple effects loop modification.
The jazz section is fantastic and really highlights the strength of this amp. You can get reference cleans out of this unit. I like to run mine with a Strymon Flint into a 2x10 with Eminence Ragin Cajuns wired at 4 ohms. Sound for pound, it is hard to beat this unit.
I have the AC one. Just ordered the Clean as a better pedal solution. I also own a Vox AC15 and I've actually stopped using it. The MV50 sounds identical, with the companion 12' cab (Vox BC112), it is louder than the AC15. And it's just more reliable and durable and portable. It really is loud enough for any gig. When gigs are too large for a 25w tube or 50w SS amp, you should be Mic'd regardless to get a proper mix. Except you won't even need to mic, you can use the line-out to a PA then the speaker out to a cab pointing at your face for monitoring. I'm looking forward to getting my MV50 clean tomorrow. Might even buy a fender cab for it. Then I could also connect the vox and fender cabs and reach the full-potential of the MV50 at 4ohms.
Hey man. I'm actually thinking on changing to these MV series too. I love tube amps... but they are a PITA. Noise, mantainance, tube failure... they could die during a gig... also, heavy things to carry around.... I tested the EHX 44 Magnum with pedals and powered all the system with sealed batteries. Those medium sized ones used in nobreaks and golf charts. First time in decades I played without noise. With those batteries I'm completelly free from dirty and buzzy AC power. But the 44 lacks some EQ. I'm really thinking on getting the MV50 Clean and powering it and the pedal power supply with 3 x 6V batteries in series. Both are 18V DC.
Hi there, Really informative review, congrats. If I may add just one thing. Whether the amp is gigable (i.e. whether it is loud) does not really depend on the ohm rating of the speaker but on the efficency of the speaker (= how much dB sound pressure is made at a distance of one meter with one 1 Watt of electric power delivered by the amp with a certain test frequency--typicaly 1kHz). If the impedance of the cabinet is low this means that more electrical current is flowing and hence more electrical power is drawn by the speaker. So using a loud or several cabinets will make the the amp more likely to be gigable. But then again the you do probably not select the speaker based on its efficiency but by how it sounds. But the sound will also depend on how the speaker harmonizes with the amp. So it may become complicated.....
"...and a Wampler tape echo because it's purple", now, THAT is my kind of review. Seriously, this tells me what I wanted to know about this amp, thanks!
I have the AC version. If you're getting most of your dirt from the amp, the jack of an effect loop sucks. But I've found with a light crunch that cleans up its the volume knob and using pedals for the rest, it's not that bad. It's just a matter if finding the balance where the reverb and delay still sound ok with the amp drive and using a gain pedal before them for the rest.
I have one, it's a lot more versatile than these Vox amps and twice the output. Problem is it's very Marshall like. If Vox put all these 3 heads into a pedal amp, I would be all over it!
I just bought this the other day. Unfortunately the "line out" disables the "speaker out," so using a cabinet as a monitor isn't possible when recording directly into an interface, as mentioned in the video. Cool review btw, I realize I'm way late...just wanted to throw this tidbit out there for anyone reading...or alternatively if I am wrong then someone please correct me.
I appreciate the jazz context you brought to your review. I was on the fence about this amp and your review answered my questions. Even though it has a nice sound it would not serve me. Many jazz players such as myself use just as much signal processing as your average rock guy and we also use high gain drives. Jazz has moved far from chunking chords in quarter notes on heavy strung archtop. Case in point Tim Miller, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Adam Rogers, Oz Noy, etc. The modern player needs tonal flexibility and even though the clean tone is a center piece of our sonic palette we want to play and amp that can go between clean and driven sounds smoothly. We also need an effects loop to keep our delays and reverbs nice and neat. How about when our jazz gigs requires us to play large clubs, outdoor festivals or concert halls? In addition to it all we still need to do studio gigs, rock and pop stuff and tour. Its a nice amp and an important first step towards miniaturized tech that does not sacrifice the tones we all love but at this point there are other choices in the market which are more effective, flexible and cheaper.
@@marcelowcr It depends on the budget available. In my experience the Boss Katana is a jazz beast and lot of people have not seen what it can do in that sense plus it is super cheap. Of course the modeling alternative going into a P.A. and monitoring with a Flat Response unit is also a great way to go which provides you with a lot of flexibility. In terms of traditional amps the Blues Deluxe is a good compromise. It is not light but it is not the heaviest amp in the world. It requires some work like higher headroom power tubes and a 5751 on V1 but it delivers. Given the context of jazz nowadays I personally want to be able to get the old base warm cleans but also to have the flexibility be able to call upon a good drive sound when needed as well as stereo time based effects.
@@IsaacLausell Awesome! I have a vintage hot rod deluxe, american. So I don't need nothing big. I wanted something small and more portable. Do you think the MV clean doesn't take drives well? I'm not that much into modeling amps, I have a fender mustang LT, but honestly I don't like it that much. I prefer the more easy plug and play and also the response of the tubes. I thought about the Katana Head MKii, but I'm not able to compare both...
@@marcelowcr I like the Hot Rod Series. I have owned several of their amps over the years. Regarding the MV I don't know about the drives. It might work fine, I would have to try one. I just wasn't entirely sold on their clean tone. It seemed to lack headroom.
Great video, thank you. I'm thinking of getting two of these as stereo amplification for my hammond rig. They will go into two 4x10 pilot cabs. I think it should sound fine. well hoping anyway! I'll be mixing these cabs into a recorder.
This video sold me this head. I have been looking for a flat amp to use with my Fractal, since I use everything from the fractal, and this one is great. I currently have a bassbreaker head and cab but this is great. Amazing video, it is worth to see the 38 minutes
dang... can't wait for the vox MV50 AC. I usually run all my pedals, including drives, all in the front with an on the edge of break up amp (AC15/30). Do you think the AC version or any of these versions are giggable with then DI out going to front of house?
It would have been nice if they made these things bigger and added a fx loop and footswitch input like Joyo's Bantamp 2 series. And a full EQ would be welcomed too also. Remove the meter.
We use this amp all the time in our studio. It’s a bit of a running joke as “the little amp that could”, because it has no right to sound as good as it does. Full power into an 8ohm 1x12 is loud enough for practices and warm ups even with a drummer in our live room. It responds to pedals better than even the PRRI sitting next to it which is considered a standard platform amp. Frankly, it wins more in shootouts for recording than I ever thought it would. Edge of breakup tone is really nice too.
Class D is NOT digital. It does NOT use digital logic in any way. It's a fast switching system that turns the output on and off as needed, therefore not wasting power keeping the output turned on all the time (like in Class A circuits). I'm sincerely sick at tired of this misconception.
Class D is indeed digital in the truest sense of the term. The fast switching is discrete and therefore makes it Digital - and it would sound totally shitty if a filter wasn't applied to the output to make the response a smooth curve - instead of a histogram.
Thanks for the explanations.I though a digital amp sounded like b.s.. What it sounds like to me voxpathfinder, is that power is generated in an analog manner with a digitalally controlled output? That sound much more reasonable to me.
Class D was actually tagged as Digital in textbooks in the early years. It's not digital in the technical sense as it does not use AD-DA chip converters but it is chip dependent and is converting the original signal waveform into pulses then filtered. Pleasant sounding musical Class D amps were Not possible using Discrete circuitry. Class D was considered a cheap amp design option until better Class D IC chips showed up.
I have one but can't find how to use it in a powered amplifier. I have a vox valvetronix and a gibson G50. I guess I should use the phone output and plug it into the input of the powered amplifier but... Don't want to fuck up my powered amplifiers... Is it ok to do so or... ????
Great in depth stuff, as usual, HP! Let me please add that it is not a re-design of tube technology, but a further development of VFD (Vaccum Flourescent Display) for audio applications. Remember the display in older HiFi Equipment? People have used these as tube replacements in low amplification applications, since those are real vacuum triode electronic elements, just with different voltage levels...
Great review. I've been looking for something nice and light with 50 watts of power. Having a lower back problem is a issue when it comes to lifting. I can see VOX coming out with a MV100 sometime down the road. With the right speaker; this is clearly a winner.
GREAT REVIEW! THANK YOU!!! Very curious about the AC and Rock versions! Looking forward to those reviews... This is a very 'curious' solution to a back up amp, maybe... I gig with a Peavey ValveKing 2x12... Not the most reliable, not the cleanest but LOVE IT!!! This Vox as a backup, with pedals, through a 2x12, may be a nice, simple solution! Let's see the other two ;-)
Hi !!!! great job as usual, superb video with a lot of fun that really helped me a lot to decide. I bought it as I was looking for an affordable pedal platform at bedroom level. I haven't had a lot of time with it but the little I had, I am absolutely amazed!!! The first shock for me is my MXR 300 Reverb sounds better in the front of this amp than in the effect loop of more expensive amps :/ !!!! The attenuator is an excellent surprise, I can have shimmery and crispy clean tones without waking up my baby daughter. Contrary to your video, my BE OD sound awesome in this amp 😊 Sorry, I just didn't crank the treble knob and I have an 8 inch Celestion speaker. I tried as well the Wampler Dracarys (stacked with a Tube Screamer mini) and it was as you would say Ridiculous good 😝 !!!! Excellent pedal platform amp and excellent tones !!!
For your information people: A Class D amp is a digital amp. Not analogue. The way it is digital is in how it supplies power to the speaker. Instead of a continuously varying current like a Class A, B or AB amps, the Class D amp always outputs full current. But in a series of pulses which it controls the width of. So the output is always either fully on or fully off. It's just a question of how long it's on for. Louder sounds = fatter pulses. This is called *Pulse Width Modulation*. Because the output device (probably a Mosfet) is either on or off, it dissipates very little heat. Thus with a Class D design you can achieve high power levels in a compact unit. Because you don't need the bulky heatsinks. The class of an amp has got absolutely nothing to do with what kind of devices are being used in it. In theory there is no reason why you couldn't make a Class D amp (or at least the output stage) using tubes if you really wanted to!
Portability, portability, portability.I started to play when I was a kid, and we had no car so I had to carry and go with public transport. I wish there were stuff like this when I was young. I think this or others like the micro terror is the best buy for young people (or girls because of lack of muscles). You can easily fit it in to your gigbag. Thomann har a 12 inch 4 ohm jensen for 65 euro...
aww so the Direct Out isn't any good? I was hoping this would be good for that type of stuff. Otherwise, maybe i'll get it cause i"m starting to start gigging and it'll be in small clubs
I bought the slightly older Quilter Tone Block 200 used, and they do sound amazing. You can still find a good deal on them. The 101's look great and have an effects loop, but no direct out. Otherwise you can find a 200 used and a 101 new for about the same price. They have a 101 with reverb coming out soon, as well. Both are going to be bigger than the MV50, and also are solid state, but I have yet to be disappointed.
I was thinking the DI out would be the best thing going for this, but it is not that great. And, the sound is OK. So is it a cool small amp or a small amp trying to be sound big. Most 40w tube amps with a 1x12 are really freaking loud and clean if you want it.
Ok, this question is a make it or break it for me - does the line out/phones jack mute the speaker out when used? Thanks for the answer in advance. (The user manual doesn't give that infromation, unfortunately...)
My Digitech jamman looper has a aux in, so you could play a backing track in to it and jam along with headphones in this amp. Or as I do, just record your favourite backing tracks and store them in the looper. It's a shame that overdrive sounds so shitty through the di/headphones tho.
Can anybody clarify this I'm wondering same thing as my amps and cabs are all different wattage and ohms so I'm a bit apprehensive about making this purchase if it will only work with one of them. Somebody help us!!
Sean Wesley Hi Sean, I just got this. You set the Ohms depending on the cabinet. In the back of the cabinet says Ohms than needs. This is tricky because you basically wont find a 50 watt cabinet that requires 4 Ohms. The average is 8 or 16 Ohms. So this amp gives 25 watts at 8 Ohms, which is mostly what you’ll get. Also, if the amp gives you 25 watts, it’s always better to have a cabinet with around double than the amp (40 or 50 watts at 8 Ohms). Last, but not less, this amp does not have Fx Loop which I think is necessary these days. There is a similar amp from Orange called Terror Stamp. It’s 20 watts, hybrid (has 1 12X7 tube), FX Loop on it and apparently gives you the 20 watts at 8 or 16 Ohms (good thing). Cheers!
J'aime l'ampli MV50 Clean mais je voudrais savoir si il faut que j'achète en plus des speakers et, un set de pédales pour les différents effets, et combien coûte cette ampli MV50 si vous pouvez traduire mon message merci de votre réponse.
Good for what it is. If you want a small amp to gig & you gig a lot (but want an amp smaller than lunchbox) then the BluGuitar Amp although bit more expensive it's the way to go.
Very good review. The jazz part really hit home. Hmm. I have an empty 12 cab around her somewhere so may I could just get a 4 ohm 12 & get the full 50,,, hmmm,,,,,
+EytstechPi; damn my bad memory, & UA-cam not adding your title in. Sweetwater did a demo of these (they can make nearly anything sound terrible), & anything that wasn't ran to a speaker load was remarkably noisy & terribly hissy, my bet is that it's the fluorescent nature of that 'nutube'. How'd you get past it, if you noticed it, noise gates?
Question - the amp is rated at 50W for 4 ohms and 25W for 8 ohms. I bought the MV50 Clean with the little BC108 speaker. The speaker is rated a maximum of 25W. So far so good.But if I wanted to get a second BC108 speaker in parallel so that I am getting the 50Watts, will that be a problem? I mean will each speaker now be getting 50Watts and will be therefore receiving more than it can handle. Or is it as simple as each gets 25W and 25+25 = 50W?
Hello, Putting 2 speaker of 8 ohms in // gives you 2 times the power with 4 ohms (2*25W 8 ohms in // -> 50W 4 ohms). Class D means more linear than class A (and more than calls B). The outlet curve in W is less depending on the frequency. My 2 cents BR
Direct out's always suck. Although for a tiny home studio it is useful to have multiple sources to work with. For example, if you're mic'ing this amp with an 8 inch speaker, there might not be enough bottom end, so what you do is you add that direct out, cut the highs, adjust bottom end, and there you go, you have a bigger picture without having to muffle that small speaker with low end.
thanks for that in depth review..still himin and a hawin as to whether or not i can use it as a back up in a miked 8 ohm cab with a plexi type pedal in front of it. i need the crystal cleans and the dirt., I guess the only way to know for sure is to try it
I would pair two Eventide H9s with this Vox 50 amp for ultimate compact fly rig! Under 5 pounds for all that is needed to gig anyplace with a PA system.
I play in a band, I need an amp that is straight clean to use with all my pedals, our band relies on a wall of sound type effect when live, would running this through a 4x12 give me that effect or should I get something bigger
Thomann have two very cheap 1x12s that would probably be good with these amps the Harley Benton 1x12 (comes in a V30 version as Henning mentioned) and also the Jet Cty. As stated with this amp lower ohm cab equals more volume but you could always change the speaker. Those companies also make cheapish 2x12 amps. For a little bit more you can get a number of tube 5 watters and for another 100 you could get the Bugera V22HD a full tube 15 watt (loud enough for gigs) head. Lots of chioces in the low end market now. Used to be just Marshall MGs....
hi from England. I bought one of these with the little cab. I love it. my friend who is a pro guitarist came round determined to hate it. he begrudgingly had to admit it was a great sounding amp.
how loud is it with the small cab?
Thank you Henning. Everything you do on this channel is super appreciated.
Every reviewer of this clean amp: plays clean for ten seconds, turns on a drive pedal.
Nux Plexi Crunch in front works really well, MUST use a decent Speaker though!
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People like clean amps to use with pedals due to headroom. Nobody plays clean anways.. Only bossa nova grampas and jazz snobs.
😂😂😂yes
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Love watching your reviews and the specific issues you bring up across the spectrum of guitar players. So thanks! I’m in the process of buying a Vox MV50 high gain and will be adding a simple effects loop modification.
Dude, those new moving camera shots are crazy good. Good job!
The jazz section is fantastic and really highlights the strength of this amp. You can get reference cleans out of this unit. I like to run mine with a Strymon Flint into a 2x10 with Eminence Ragin Cajuns wired at 4 ohms. Sound for pound, it is hard to beat this unit.
Love the Ragin Cajun speakers!
I have the AC one. Just ordered the Clean as a better pedal solution. I also own a Vox AC15 and I've actually stopped using it. The MV50 sounds identical, with the companion 12' cab (Vox BC112), it is louder than the AC15. And it's just more reliable and durable and portable. It really is loud enough for any gig. When gigs are too large for a 25w tube or 50w SS amp, you should be Mic'd regardless to get a proper mix. Except you won't even need to mic, you can use the line-out to a PA then the speaker out to a cab pointing at your face for monitoring.
I'm looking forward to getting my MV50 clean tomorrow. Might even buy a fender cab for it. Then I could also connect the vox and fender cabs and reach the full-potential of the MV50 at 4ohms.
Hey man. I'm actually thinking on changing to these MV series too. I love tube amps... but they are a PITA. Noise, mantainance, tube failure... they could die during a gig... also, heavy things to carry around.... I tested the EHX 44 Magnum with pedals and powered all the system with sealed batteries. Those medium sized ones used in nobreaks and golf charts. First time in decades I played without noise. With those batteries I'm completelly free from dirty and buzzy AC power. But the 44 lacks some EQ. I'm really thinking on getting the MV50 Clean and powering it and the pedal power supply with 3 x 6V batteries in series. Both are 18V DC.
Your presentation is very informative, and funny! you have demonstrated the clean sounds very well. An entertaining review, thanks for posting.
The carlsberg of gear reviews, probably the best one i have ever seen Henning.
Thanks for a great cab demo! Just what I needed to make a solid decision.
This little VoX sounds big. amazing sound. this is all someone needs for play and exersice at home or in a room.. maybe some pedals .
Thanks for the in-depth. Would have liked to hear the attenuator engaged with cab and direct. Maybe sometime soon?
Hi there,
Really informative review, congrats.
If I may add just one thing. Whether the amp is gigable (i.e. whether it is loud) does not really depend on the ohm rating of the speaker but on the efficency of the speaker (= how much dB sound pressure is made at a distance of one meter with one 1 Watt of electric power delivered by the amp with a certain test frequency--typicaly 1kHz).
If the impedance of the cabinet is low this means that more electrical current is flowing and hence more electrical power is drawn by the speaker.
So using a loud or several cabinets will make the the amp more likely to be gigable.
But then again the you do probably not select the speaker based on its efficiency but by how it sounds. But the sound will also depend on how the speaker harmonizes with the amp. So it may become complicated.....
So glad you included the jazz section. I was waiting the whole video. Haha great stuff throughout the whole thing tho! 🤘🏻😁
"...and a Wampler tape echo because it's purple", now, THAT is my kind of review. Seriously, this tells me what I wanted to know about this amp, thanks!
Sounds great but I'm wondering if you would prefer this over a Helix or BluGuitar Amp One..
9.40 - is it gigable? Yes it is. I have used mine on several gigs, plenty of power coupled with my homemade cabinet with a 1×12 4 ohm jensen speaker 😊
I've the MV50 Rock and want the full 50w. I like your homemade cabinet idea with the 4 ohm speaker. What are the dimensions of your cab please? cheers
I have the AC version. If you're getting most of your dirt from the amp, the jack of an effect loop sucks. But I've found with a light crunch that cleans up its the volume knob and using pedals for the rest, it's not that bad. It's just a matter if finding the balance where the reverb and delay still sound ok with the amp drive and using a gain pedal before them for the rest.
Jack = lack ... damn you, autocorrect!
What's worse (4 years into future here), even now, no Nutube product seems to have this feature.
Thanks Henning. Good balanced review. Much appreciated.
That Berumen guitar is gorgeous. Isaac builds beautiful instruments.
I would love to see a review of the Bluguitar Amp1!
I have one, it's a lot more versatile than these Vox amps and twice the output. Problem is it's very Marshall like. If Vox put all these 3 heads into a pedal amp, I would be all over it!
There are Jazz players who play Vox AC 30,
John Schofield is a great example,
Lush vox cleans, I play Jazz to, and am happy with that tone..
I just bought this the other day. Unfortunately the "line out" disables the "speaker out," so using a cabinet as a monitor isn't possible when recording directly into an interface, as mentioned in the video. Cool review btw, I realize I'm way late...just wanted to throw this tidbit out there for anyone reading...or alternatively if I am wrong then someone please correct me.
Hmmm, not with my mv50, I can use both line out and speaker out at the same time.
@@sverdianto Interesting, I'll have to try it again...perhaps I did something wrong. I appreciate the reply.
I appreciate the jazz context you brought to your review. I was on the fence about this amp and your review answered my questions. Even though it has a nice sound it would not serve me. Many jazz players such as myself use just as much signal processing as your average rock guy and we also use high gain drives. Jazz has moved far from chunking chords in quarter notes on heavy strung archtop. Case in point Tim Miller, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Adam Rogers, Oz Noy, etc. The modern player needs tonal flexibility and even though the clean tone is a center piece of our sonic palette we want to play and amp that can go between clean and driven sounds smoothly. We also need an effects loop to keep our delays and reverbs nice and neat. How about when our jazz gigs requires us to play large clubs, outdoor festivals or concert halls? In addition to it all we still need to do studio gigs, rock and pop stuff and tour.
Its a nice amp and an important first step towards miniaturized tech that does not sacrifice the tones we all love but at this point there are other choices in the market which are more effective, flexible and cheaper.
Hey man! I know its been some time, but what other options do you suggest? Thanks!
@@marcelowcr It depends on the budget available. In my experience the Boss Katana is a jazz beast and lot of people have not seen what it can do in that sense plus it is super cheap. Of course the modeling alternative going into a P.A. and monitoring with a Flat Response unit is also a great way to go which provides you with a lot of flexibility. In terms of traditional amps the Blues Deluxe is a good compromise. It is not light but it is not the heaviest amp in the world. It requires some work like higher headroom power tubes and a 5751 on V1 but it delivers. Given the context of jazz nowadays I personally want to be able to get the old base warm cleans but also to have the flexibility be able to call upon a good drive sound when needed as well as stereo time based effects.
@@IsaacLausell Awesome! I have a vintage hot rod deluxe, american. So I don't need nothing big. I wanted something small and more portable. Do you think the MV clean doesn't take drives well? I'm not that much into modeling amps, I have a fender mustang LT, but honestly I don't like it that much. I prefer the more easy plug and play and also the response of the tubes.
I thought about the Katana Head MKii, but I'm not able to compare both...
@@marcelowcr I like the Hot Rod Series. I have owned several of their amps over the years. Regarding the MV I don't know about the drives. It might work fine, I would have to try one. I just wasn't entirely sold on their clean tone. It seemed to lack headroom.
Great video, thank you. I'm thinking of getting two of these as stereo amplification for my hammond rig. They will go into two 4x10 pilot cabs. I think it should sound fine. well hoping anyway! I'll be mixing these cabs into a recorder.
Sweet jazz music tone!
This video sold me this head. I have been looking for a flat amp to use with my Fractal, since I use everything from the fractal, and this one is great. I currently have a bassbreaker head and cab but this is great.
Amazing video, it is worth to see the 38 minutes
dang... can't wait for the vox MV50 AC. I usually run all my pedals, including drives, all in the front with an on the edge of break up amp (AC15/30). Do you think the AC version or any of these versions are giggable with then DI out going to front of house?
I came here for the Vox MV50 and fell in love with the Berumen guitar😍 Excellent review of the MV50.
It would have been nice if they made these things bigger and added a fx loop and footswitch input like Joyo's Bantamp 2 series. And a full EQ would be welcomed too also. Remove the meter.
We use this amp all the time in our studio. It’s a bit of a running joke as “the little amp that could”, because it has no right to sound as good as it does. Full power into an 8ohm 1x12 is loud enough for practices and warm ups even with a drummer in our live room. It responds to pedals better than even the PRRI sitting next to it which is considered a standard platform amp. Frankly, it wins more in shootouts for recording than I ever thought it would. Edge of breakup tone is really nice too.
great review. A lot of honest review. Really like it.
Holy crap the video quality has gone up! well done Henning, loving the slight panning during the playing sections.
Thx man! really nice shots at the beggining
Great and very comprehensive review ....as always
I have Vox night Train 15w . What do you think if i use a cabinet Vox BC 102 . . . It's ok ? Thank you
Class D is NOT digital.
It does NOT use digital logic in any way.
It's a fast switching system that turns the output on and off as needed, therefore not wasting power keeping the output turned on all the time (like in Class A circuits).
I'm sincerely sick at tired of this misconception.
Amen
Class D is indeed digital in the truest sense of the term. The fast switching is discrete and therefore makes it Digital - and it would sound totally shitty if a filter wasn't applied to the output to make the response a smooth curve - instead of a histogram.
Thanks for the explanations.I though a digital amp sounded like b.s.. What it sounds like to me voxpathfinder, is that power is generated in an analog manner with a digitalally controlled output? That sound much more reasonable to me.
Class D was actually tagged as Digital in textbooks in the early years. It's not digital in the technical sense as it does not use AD-DA chip converters but it is chip dependent and is converting the original signal waveform into pulses then filtered. Pleasant sounding musical Class D amps were Not possible using Discrete circuitry. Class D was considered a cheap amp design option until better Class D IC chips showed up.
I have one but can't find how to use it in a powered amplifier. I have a vox valvetronix and a gibson G50. I guess I should use the phone output and plug it into the input of the powered amplifier but... Don't want to fuck up my powered amplifiers... Is it ok to do so or... ????
I’d like to hear the amp cranked or close to full. Does it breakup like a Fender?
Great in depth stuff, as usual, HP! Let me please add that it is not a re-design of tube technology, but a further development of VFD (Vaccum Flourescent Display) for audio applications. Remember the display in older HiFi Equipment? People have used these as tube replacements in low amplification applications, since those are real vacuum triode electronic elements, just with different voltage levels...
Nice playing; on the Jazz part as well. Keep it up, dude
Great review. I've been looking for something nice and light with 50 watts of power. Having a lower back problem is a issue when it comes to lifting. I can see VOX coming out with a MV100 sometime down the road. With the right speaker; this is clearly a winner.
How loud is it?
Yo Henning, awesome video brother! I always learn a lot on your videos. I am definitely subscribing now.
your videos. .shows...are my most enjoyable entertainment. ..thank you. ..
That is a hell of a collection you've got there!
excellent review the way that all review should be
Found your channel while looking for Harley Bentons reviews. Good content dude, keep it up!
GREAT REVIEW! THANK YOU!!! Very curious about the AC and Rock versions! Looking forward to those reviews... This is a very 'curious' solution to a back up amp, maybe... I gig with a Peavey ValveKing 2x12... Not the most reliable, not the cleanest but LOVE IT!!! This Vox as a backup, with pedals, through a 2x12, may be a nice, simple solution! Let's see the other two ;-)
Grreat review. For a rehearsal setting, sometimes i take bare necessities and a just few pedals..this amp would fit the bill. Your studio is superb.
Cool vid :) may you tell me the reference of the speaker you were using ? :) I'd be cool with my kemper
Hi !!!! great job as usual, superb video with a lot of fun that really helped me a lot to decide. I bought it as I was looking for an affordable pedal platform at bedroom level. I haven't had a lot of time with it but the little I had, I am absolutely amazed!!! The first shock for me is my MXR 300 Reverb sounds better in the front of this amp than in the effect loop of more expensive amps :/ !!!! The attenuator is an excellent surprise, I can have shimmery and crispy clean tones without waking up my baby daughter. Contrary to your video, my BE OD sound awesome in this amp 😊 Sorry, I just didn't crank the treble knob and I have an 8 inch Celestion speaker. I tried as well the Wampler Dracarys (stacked with a Tube Screamer mini) and it was as you would say Ridiculous good 😝 !!!! Excellent pedal platform amp and excellent tones !!!
For your information people: A Class D amp is a digital amp. Not analogue. The way it is digital is in how it supplies power to the speaker.
Instead of a continuously varying current like a Class A, B or AB amps, the Class D amp always outputs full current. But in a series of pulses which it controls the width of. So the output is always either fully on or fully off. It's just a question of how long it's on for. Louder sounds = fatter pulses. This is called *Pulse Width Modulation*.
Because the output device (probably a Mosfet) is either on or off, it dissipates very little heat. Thus with a Class D design you can achieve high power levels in a compact unit. Because you don't need the bulky heatsinks.
The class of an amp has got absolutely nothing to do with what kind of devices are being used in it. In theory there is no reason why you couldn't make a Class D amp (or at least the output stage) using tubes if you really wanted to!
Portability, portability, portability.I started to play when I was a kid, and we had no car so I had to carry and go with public transport. I wish there were stuff like this when I was young. I think this or others like the micro terror is the best buy for young people (or girls because of lack of muscles). You can easily fit it in to your gigbag.
Thomann har a 12 inch 4 ohm jensen for 65 euro...
How would it sound as a stereo slave? I want something neutral to amplify the stereo channel of my efx unit. I have a combo with a matching cab. 8 ohm
aww so the Direct Out isn't any good? I was hoping this would be good for that type of stuff. Otherwise, maybe i'll get it cause i"m starting to start gigging and it'll be in small clubs
Great review. Beautiful sound :-)
Which would you choose as a pedal platform? This amp or the Joyo Bantamp BlueJay?
So the Direct/line Out is good for cleans and bad with dirt pedals, right?
I'm looking for a bargain wet/dry set up. Would this little amp and a 4ohm 10" cab work for my side?
Hi Henning, love your videos. Thanks for all your hard work. What do you use for editing? Cheers.
How’s it sounding playing an acoustic through it?
The Joyo sounds nice. How many watts there?
Loved the impromptu pedal stress test! LOL!
Nice demo!
You need to run this tiny amp into regular cabinets to do it justice. I use a 4x8 Blackstar until I get a 2x10 or 4x10 built.
been seriously considering one for jazz gigs
If I can suggest something different, try the Quilter 101 mini head. I think it is more "jazz friendly" since it is more dark sounding :D
Bernardo Silva thanks mate, I'll check it out
I bought the slightly older Quilter Tone Block 200 used, and they do sound amazing. You can still find a good deal on them. The 101's look great and have an effects loop, but no direct out. Otherwise you can find a 200 used and a 101 new for about the same price. They have a 101 with reverb coming out soon, as well. Both are going to be bigger than the MV50, and also are solid state, but I have yet to be disappointed.
I have the 101 and the 201, and the reason I got the 201 is exactly the direct out :D
The problem is that the 201 is more expensive then the 101.
Oh, they have a new Micro Block 45 coming out...it's literally pedal-sized! Shows on a couple of sites that it will be $150.
a fantastic little amp...great for clean ambient stuff ...on my ever growing GAS list.
I was thinking the DI out would be the best thing going for this, but it is not that great. And, the sound is OK. So is it a cool small amp or a small amp trying to be sound big. Most 40w tube amps with a 1x12 are really freaking loud and clean if you want it.
Ok, this question is a make it or break it for me - does the line out/phones jack mute the speaker out when used? Thanks for the answer in advance. (The user manual doesn't give that infromation, unfortunately...)
My Digitech jamman looper has a aux in, so you could play a backing track in to it and jam along with headphones in this amp. Or as I do, just record your favourite backing tracks and store them in the looper. It's a shame that overdrive sounds so shitty through the di/headphones tho.
Hi Henning, sounds very nice through the Joyo Cab,
You could get a good Edge sound with a good quality delay...
Not bad! Not bad at all and good video. I think I am going to try one of these myself.
should i get a joyo bantamp meteor or zombie or an orange micro dark?
Nice vid! What would be the right way to set the Ohms? Could you damage the amp if you dont set it well? Thank you.
Can anybody clarify this I'm wondering same thing as my amps and cabs are all different wattage and ohms so I'm a bit apprehensive about making this purchase if it will only work with one of them. Somebody help us!!
Sean Wesley Hi Sean, I just got this. You set the Ohms depending on the cabinet. In the back of the cabinet says Ohms than needs. This is tricky because you basically wont find a 50 watt cabinet that requires 4 Ohms. The average is 8 or 16 Ohms. So this amp gives 25 watts at 8 Ohms, which is mostly what you’ll get. Also, if the amp gives you 25 watts, it’s always better to have a cabinet with around double than the amp (40 or 50 watts at 8 Ohms). Last, but not less, this amp does not have Fx Loop which I think is necessary these days. There is a similar amp from Orange called Terror Stamp. It’s 20 watts, hybrid (has 1 12X7 tube), FX Loop on it and apparently gives you the 20 watts at 8 or 16 Ohms (good thing). Cheers!
J'aime l'ampli MV50 Clean mais je voudrais savoir si il faut que j'achète en plus des speakers et, un set de pédales pour les différents effets, et combien coûte cette ampli MV50 si vous pouvez traduire mon message merci de votre réponse.
Just got interested in the amp head, didn't check who's presenting, most pleasant surprise!
Good for what it is. If you want a small amp to gig & you gig a lot (but want an amp smaller than lunchbox) then the BluGuitar Amp although bit more expensive it's the way to go.
Very good review. The jazz part really hit home. Hmm. I have an empty 12 cab around her somewhere so may I could just get a 4 ohm 12 & get the full 50,,, hmmm,,,,,
That damn amp sounds so amazing.
+EytstechPi; damn my bad memory, & UA-cam not adding your title in. Sweetwater did a demo of these (they can make nearly anything sound terrible), & anything that wasn't ran to a speaker load was remarkably noisy & terribly hissy, my bet is that it's the fluorescent nature of that 'nutube'. How'd you get past it, if you noticed it, noise gates?
Sorry I have more questions. I need to know more. What does MV50 stand for?
Dan S. My guess would be "Mini Vox" and the 50 is for the watts obviously.
Clean sounds are perfect, what is the spring reverb you are using here?
Stinkfist2000 it is in the description under the video
Question - the amp is rated at 50W for 4 ohms and 25W for 8 ohms. I bought the MV50 Clean with the little BC108 speaker. The speaker is rated a maximum of 25W. So far so good.But if I wanted to get a second BC108 speaker in parallel so that I am getting the 50Watts, will that be a problem? I mean will each speaker now be getting 50Watts and will be therefore receiving more than it can handle. Or is it as simple as each gets 25W and 25+25 = 50W?
Yes that simple
Hello,
Putting 2 speaker of 8 ohms in // gives you 2 times the power with 4 ohms (2*25W 8 ohms in // -> 50W 4 ohms).
Class D means more linear than class A (and more than calls B). The outlet curve in W is less depending on the frequency.
My 2 cents
BR
Can I connect this amp to a di box pedal with cab simulate and then to the PA??
That jazz riff was sweet
7 people in the audience??? I'm confused, what is ... audience?
Direct out's always suck. Although for a tiny home studio it is useful to have multiple sources to work with. For example, if you're mic'ing this amp with an 8 inch speaker, there might not be enough bottom end, so what you do is you add that direct out, cut the highs, adjust bottom end, and there you go, you have a bigger picture without having to muffle that small speaker with low end.
so did he say if its a giggable volume at 4 ohms/full 50watts?
What guitar were you using for the jazz sound portion? It sounds awesome!
thanks for that in depth review..still himin and a hawin as to whether or not i can use it as a back up in a miked 8 ohm cab with a plexi type pedal in front of it. i need the crystal cleans and the dirt., I guess the only way to know for sure is to try it
This was a great review........ with the right speaker.
Can this be connected with two 8ohm studio monitors? If yes, would that translate as 16ohm to the Vox? Thanks
I would pair two Eventide H9s with this Vox 50 amp for ultimate compact fly rig! Under 5 pounds for all that is needed to gig anyplace with a PA system.
I play in a band, I need an amp that is straight clean to use with all my pedals, our band relies on a wall of sound type effect when live, would running this through a 4x12 give me that effect or should I get something bigger
depends on how loud you need it. We are still not sure how these amp will do in a band situation.
Very, very nice song Henning!
Thomann have two very cheap 1x12s that would probably be good with these amps the Harley Benton 1x12 (comes in a V30 version as Henning mentioned) and also the Jet Cty. As stated with this amp lower ohm cab equals more volume but you could always change the speaker. Those companies also make cheapish 2x12 amps. For a little bit more you can get a number of tube 5 watters and for another 100 you could get the Bugera V22HD a full tube 15 watt (loud enough for gigs) head. Lots of chioces in the low end market now. Used to be just Marshall MGs....
jazz from 28 00,, which spkr u used...
That guitar is the star of the show. Beautiful.
Will it work well with multi effect?
I plan to use it with multi effect amp modeling
How about getting an edge of breakup blues tone? Can you get a good blues setup out of this?
L. Scott Music get the ac model
that will deffo!