Your presentation is so much clearer than any other one I've seen. I'm glad I heard both of them run. I'm interested in curved cuts only, so the Rockwell saw is out since it does not compare to this (or probably any other scroll saw) for that purpose. An A+ on the review/comparison....
Thanks for your kind words and for watching. There is soooooooo much that can be done using a scroll saw and it is far quieter than the Bladerunner X2. Happy scrolling!
Thanks for your comment. I recommend getting a scroll saw that can use either pinned end blades or plain end blades. Being able to use either type of blade will be useful. The harbor freight scroll saw I have uses only pinned send blades. I had to purchase an adaptor to allow me to use plain end blades. Thanks for watching.
I really appreciate your videos. I gave up my Sear 10" table saw when a piece of wood flew by my head. I am glad I discovered Rockwell Blade Runner. Keep the videos coming!
I'm glad you didn't get hurt by that flying piece of wood! I too have had pieces of wood fly towards me from a table saw which was my primary inspiration for getting rid of it. The Bladerunner is definitely fun to use (although it is loud IMO). I have a playlist of Bladerunner videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html&si=cf8bT5bUpZWCbiyG . If I want to make lots of cuts quickly, I try using a circular saw (I think it is safer). I use a battery powered model when possible or a corded model if I lots of cuts to make. Here's a playlist about using the circular saw: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD3Cpl2LJax9kvll9B-SDlau.html&si=eS5EEdRfFkL14ZQ6 . If I only have a few small cuts to make, I tend to use a hand saw; I prefer a Japanese style pull saw. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Of course it was very helpful to watch this side by side comparison! Thank you for the video review! I am learning a lot these couple of days only for watching your videos!
Very well done informational video. The BR can do what a hand held Jigsaw can do, but it can make controlled straight and miter cuts similar to, but not as precision, as a table saw. A scroll saw can do intricate inside cuts that a BR couldn't do.
Agreed. For me, one of the huge differences between the BR and scroll saw is how much noise they make. I don't use hearing protection when using a scroll saw but I do when using the BR. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Nicely explained ... you stated a clear distinction between the two saws. While one might see them as possible competitors, in practice, they are totally different saws that perform different functions. I could see them both having a place in a hobbyist's shop. Well done ... Cheers!
Thanks Dave. I totally agree; both saws have a place in a hobbyist's shop. The biggest downside with the Bladerunner is the amount of noise it makes. Maybe I should work on trying to make it quieter? Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Hi June. A BladeRunner can definitely cut quicker than a scroll saw but it is substantially louder than a scroll saw. If the cuts you want to make are not as fine or detailed as with a scroll saw, then the BladeRunner might be worth a try. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That was a pretty good review. I own a scroll saw and it's served me well for many years. I have contemplated the other saw, but after seeing your review, I'm having second thoughts. Thanks!
Hi Terry. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to a scroll saw and a band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
Very interesting, informative and quality video. It is quite timely as I am currently in the process of deciding what scroll saw I want to buy. Thanks.
I just picked up a Blade runner RK7324 for $20 Can or $16 US at a garage sale, guy said he used it only to help build his gazebo and was moving. Great product.
I have 2 Bladerunners the original that has variable speed, but has limited rip with the upper blade guide arm. I gave it to my daughters for home projects as it is much safer than a table saw. The Bladerunner 2 has the upper guide support inline with the blade so you can rip wider boards. These are not fine woodworking saws, but work well for hobby and general home projects.
Hi John. I agree; the BR is not a fine woodworking machine. However, if you glue a paper template or draw the cut lines on the wood, you can cut close to the lines and then sand right up to the line. In this way, you can make some pretty good cuts/projects. It might take more time but woodworkers/makers shouldn't be in a rush right? I have also found some success removing the upper guide support and using deadweight on the workpiece (to help hold it down while cutting). Check out this video ( ua-cam.com/video/W-aKZlOVNlI/v-deo.html } at about the 13 minute mark to see what I am talking about. FYI: I have a BR playlist on my channel; here's the link: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Terrific analysis without really giving an opinion, which is good, just the details! Hearing the noise levels and already owning one of the scroll saws so I know how good it is, makes the difference for me. The Rockwell is just too noisy for regular use, especially in my classroom which is already very noisy. The price is great though, so if you aren't using one very often and only need it time to time for small projects I'd probably go with the Rockwell, versatile, inexpensive but the noise would drive me crazy for long periods.
Thanks for your comment. When I use the BladeRunner, I always wear hearing protection. What kind of projects do you do in your classroom? Thanks for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake depends on the grade. 7th makes a small wood box to hold notepads that they've designed and made in another class. 8th Grade makes simple plaques of their initials, then present their own design for something (skateboards, cutting boards, small shelves) and manufacture it. 8th grade Transportation students make mousetrap cars, boats, hot air balloons, etc.
Thank U for the comparison between a traditional scroll saw and the Bladerunner. I have the Bladerunner X2 and it's prime function is a small, portable table saw. For this function it performs admirably. It's a great alternative to a portable construction table saw such as the Bosch or Dewalt for light-duty work. I was surprised that I could Rip 8 foot 1x2's without any issue! But, now I need a scroll saw to cut wood, acrylic, and some glass. In this case, as noted in the video, it is not possible to cut anywhere near as precisely on the Bladerunner as a traditional scroll saw. Stick to square holes! There are a number of inexpensive scroll saws. One in particular, as an example of inexpensive “best practices,” is the Wen 3920 16-inch. It has several features that set it apart including the ability to switch the blade 90 degrees and a 45 degree tilting bed and it cost around $86 at this time. If U need real scroll saw functionality, forget the Bladerunner. But both, taken together, provide great versatility for hobbyists and homeowners. The Bladerunner is a gem as an inexpensive table saw, well build, durable and from a reputable manufacture.
Hi Joe. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to the scroll saw and band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
Great video! Thanks! I had no idea the rockwell had that metal pull out thingy to keep it from slipping. Heading out the garage now to go check it out :)
I absolutely agree. I thought it might be useful to compare them because some people may only want to spend the money on 1 machine or the other and they are not sure which one would be right for them. I like both machines but if I had to pick one, I would probably pick the scroll saw. It might cut slower than the Bladerunner but it is A LOT quieter. I also think you can make more accurate cuts with the scroll saw since the blade is held in tension from both ends. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Very good demo mucho info.I bought the Rockwell to put in wood flooring which is a little heavier blade mostly to use as a table saw for straight cuts. One thing also is the Rockwell has a small table and I made something to keep the long cuts on an even level. the Central Mach. is very limited in that category.
Being able to use 2 hands to control the work piece as it goes through the blade makes it very easy to use. It is also A LOT safer to use compared to a table saw.
Wow! My Bladerunner X2 didn't have mounting holes. For that reason, I went for a bandsaw instead. I have to say WTH? I wish I had seen this video a couple of months ago. Thanks for putting this out!
Watch this video of mine: ua-cam.com/video/NVUfa8sS3Pw/v-deo.html . In the video, I show how I clamped a simple wood fence to my scroll saw table and then made a very straight cut using a spiral blade. With your comment, you got me thinking about doing a follow-up video using a miter gauge on a scroll saw. Thanks for the idea! And also thanks for your comment and for watching.
I own the X1 Blade Runner. $50 pawn shop rescue. A Bosch T Shank blade makes it a usable tool. The 1st Generation saw has a poorly designed rail guide system, prone to jamming when feed stock is pushed through. If crafting small precision pieces; I would buy the (Made in Japan) "MicroLux Tilt Arbor Saw" for $379.95 I use my Blade Runner X1 for 3/4" Pine. A scroll saw is a good precision machine. And also costs more than the Blade Runner X2.
I wont completely write off the bladerunner..but that guard blocks your view of what you are doing for more detailed work. So yes the bladerunner is good for straight or angle cuts like making picture frames and stuff.. good review
Yes, the guard (I call it "the foot") does block your view of the cut line. Lately, I have been using it without the guard ("foot") installed. I'm cutting large pieces of soft pine (common board). I put a heavy weight on the board so as I slowly push the wood through the blade, the wood has less of a tendency to jump (the heavy weight helps hold the wood down). I find that I can make reasonably accurate straight cuts and curved cuts (using a scrolling jigsaw blade). The heavy weight helps a lot. Hope this helps and thanks for your comment.
@@ImaginethenMake Yes I take it off at times too..but the wobble is terrible from the blade then.. Oh well.. going to invest in a scroll saw anyhow.. WEN has a pretty decent one over on Amazon pretty inexpensive..
Got a Blade Runner X2 for $35 in excellent shape, but still want a scroll saw- now I know what I can do in the meantime! Thanks, going through your videos!
Hi Tim. Congrats on the used BR. Nice price! Have fun experimenting with it. Always remember to let the blade do the work (don't push the wood too hard). Yes, a scroll saw it a VERY versatile tool and perhaps underrated by many casual woodworkers and crafters.. There are SO many very talented and creative scrollers out there to take inspiration from. Not sure if you watched the video where I disclosed that the Harbor Freight scroll saw that I use, I bought used (but in great condition) for $40. I did replace the blade holders for about $50. All in all, a VERY low price to get started with scrolling. (And the blades are cheap too!). Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for your comment. I'm not sure if you were using a Bladerunner or a scroll saw, but in either case, a sharp blade with right number of teeth per inch (TPI) can make all the difference. Thanks for watching. Please click the thumbs up so I know you have read my reply. thanks
I have never worked with purple heart, but from what I have read, it is a very hard and dense wood and can be difficult to cut. I think you will need to try a number of different kinds of blades before you find the one that works best for you. Thanks for your reply. Good luck, stay safe, and have fun!
I agree knowing what I knew back then (I made this video quite a long time ago). Now, I have a different opinion. Lately, I have been doing a lot more with the scroll saw and trying to learn how to use it better. (Check out my scroll saw playlist to see what I have been up to.) If I were to choose between the 2 machines now, I would choose to use the scroll saw for both the straight and curved cuts. The difference to me is in the way the blade is held. On the BladeRunner, the blade is only held on one end. On the scroll saw, the blade is under tension while being held by both ends. I think this is what makes the scroll saw a more accurate saw. The other thing I have gained more experience with is the choice of blades for both the BladeRunner (t-shank jigsaw blades) and the scroll saw (5" pin end and pinless blades with many different blade profiles). I have found that there are some relatively wide scroll saw blades which make it reasonably simple to make very straight cuts. There are also some narrow and very narrow scroll saw blades that can make detailed to very detailed cuts; cuts the BladeRunner could never make. Yes, the BladeRunner might be able to cut a little quicker (because the blades are bigger than scroll saw blades), but the cut accuracy is just not there compared to the scroll saw in my opinion. Now, many woodworkers make their cuts somewhat away from the cut line and then sand to the line to end up with accurate cuts and you can certainly do that with either saw. I hope this makes sense. You also noted that the scroll saw is a lot quieter to use which is a big plus for me. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I agree with all you said. But blade Runner is more sutable for most people and curve requirement in average. I am also a furniture maker and its important to say bladerunner doesn't require the same set of skills. New people will keep Braking those tinny blades like my student do ;) its another world.
I hear what you are saying. Different skills are needed for each machine. I've never broken a jigsaw blade, but I have broken a few scroll saw blades. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for the comparison video. After a day of research I think I’m gonna go with the $80 WEN scroll saw from amazon. I have never used a scroll saw but it has good reviews and it’s pretty affordable.
Thanks for watching. I suggest getting a scroll saw that takes either pin end blades or pinless blades. The scroll saw in the video only works with pin end blades. I'm not sure about the saw you are looking at.
Imagine then Make thank you. I got lucky and the one I ordered takes both kinds of blades. It should get here this weekend. I don’t have much time to practice as I already have to scroll a name that I was asked to do for next weekend. I plan on doing a practice run on cheap pine and then doing it on the good wood after a couple of practice runs. Really enjoying your videos. 👍🏼
What's the story on BladeRunner? The big box stores don't stock it. It's available online only. I figured Harbor Freight would have their own version by now, but they don't. The reviews I've read say it can't cut straight lines, the blade bends.
I first time I saw the Bladerunner was at my local Loews years ago, but when I went back to buy one, they were out of stock and not sure when they'd get more, so I got mine from Amazon. amzn.to/33hAcYs Despite what you have heard, you can make straight and curved cuts without bending the blade. The key is to use the correct blade and let the blade do the work (don't push the wood too hard through the blade). I do have a video of me making a fun project out of pine using mostly the Bladerunner to make the cuts (2 different kinds of blades). Here's the link to the video if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/W-aKZlOVNlI/v-deo.htmlsi=PTu49GZYE_d1f-zC . My biggest complaint about the BR is that is it loud (vacuum cleaner loud) so I use hearing protection. The best thing about the BR is how easy it is to change blades. I have a playlist of BR related videos; here's the link: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html&si=AY_xI7nWOfsX_rm0 . Thanks for your questions and for watching. If you have any other questions, feel free to leave me another comment.
I have the scroll saw. It works well, but the blades will overheat and break quite easily. I can see the advantage of the blade runner right away. I dont much care about noise, but I do care very much about the result.
What this really is, is a comparison between a table mounted jigsaw, and a scrollsaw. The two are not comparable. They do totally different job, and the scroll is for detailed job specific things, and a jig is for larger woodworking jobs which cannot be reached by the table saw or chop saw. Jigsaws are just powered hand saws that can cut radiuses, I know plenty of people who mount them into a tabletop, but that is often after buying a second one for handheld jobs, you limit their options by putting them into a table. The Bladerunner is for those people that do not know that a bandsaw is what they really need.
Thanks for your comments Chris. I agree with you to a point. I actually have done 2 videos comparing the BladeRunner, scroll saw, and bandsaw. In those videos, I speak about the differences as I see them. Check out videos #41 and #84 for more. Thanks for watching.
I am looking for something to cut plywood.. 3/4" max. I will be making yard art and the cheap handheld jigsaw I used last time was a terrible experience. I need something I can easily maneuver to cut through all the curves from my drawings. About 3"w x 5" h average. Any suggestions?
Thanks for your question. Take a look at my Bladerunner videos. I think this might be just the right tool for you. The Bladerunner is basically an inverted jigsaw so you move the wood through the blade (as opposed to moving the blade through the wood while using a standard jigsaw). You are able to use both hands to move the wood so you have great control and can make accurate cuts. I think you might like this much more than the jigsaw. If you decide to try the Bladerunner, let me know and I can make some suggestions for the type of blade you might want to try.
Central Machinery sold by Harbor Freight. This video: ua-cam.com/video/niSinuF_tdA/v-deo.html gives you the details on the saw. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I just got a BladeRunner X2 for Christmas, but I am concerned because the blade is so far forward of the two side bearings, that they can't even touch the blade should it be deflected to either side. If deflected, the blade would touch the screws that hold the bearings in place, but not the bearings themselves. ItM, does yours exhibit this property? Thanks!
Thanks for this video. I was pretty sold on the Bladerunner but that difference in sound was pretty striking. Maybe I should look into that scroll saw before making a decision...
Yes, the BladeRunner is loud IMO. But so is my table saw and circular saw. Normally I wear hearing protection, eye protection, and a respirator (rated for paint fumes) when using most of my power tools. Be aware that the scroll saw, although a great tool to have, cuts much slower. It also is used when making more detailed cuts and IMO, requires more skill than using the BladeRunner. Thanks for watching.
I'm not sure what you mean by "mini scroll saw machine". Currently (Oct 2021), 9 times out of 10, I'll choose to use the scroll saw over the Bladerunner because 1) the blade is supported on both ends and 2) the scroll saw is a lot quieter. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Yes, I still like the saw especially after replacing the blabe holders so I could start using pinless blades. Here's the video: ua-cam.com/video/W83TllFnMgs/v-deo.html . Thanks for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Awesome, I'll check out that video. I've seen a few of the same saw for sale second hand for around 30 bucks, I'll have to pull the trigger now!
Liked the video ,but the Blade runner is a accessory to have with a scroll saw or vice versa ..If you are limited to the tools you have in your work shop . I am a scroller and the blade runner would aid in the creations i make being I could make thick wood thinner etc and also the blade runner is a a great portable DIY machine for around the shop and home .Not going to do fret work with a blade runner....They are both great machines and compliment each other.Keep up the videos .
Thanks. I agree....the Bladerunner and scroll saw do complement each other nicely. There are many differences but most notably is the blade size and therefore the kinds of cuts each is best suited for.
Yes, the old version of the Bladerunner (model RK7321) had a variable speed motor control located under the table on the left side. Unfortunately, the model that I own does not have a motor speed control. There were also several other nice features with this older model (2 miter slots, a miter gauge that also serves as a fence, power cord wind up spools, stainless steel top, blade support off to the side and not in back). If they still made this saw, I would buy one to try, particularly for the variable motor speed control. Thanks for watching.
I love the used scroll saw you bought for $30.00. What brand/model is it? What yr was it made? I will look for that one. I have a more basic Craftsman 1985 year model. It has tight tension. I prefer tensioner. Also my blades are 3 inch long blades. Very hard to find. I bought two small packs I found.i need to change to a 5 inch blade scroll saw. Please advise. Most Humble Appreciation! Alton
Hello Alton. The scroll saw is made by Central Machinery and is sold through the Harbor Freight stores. I got lucky by stumbling upon the used one. I still have the saw and use it from time to time. Below are a few links to other videos where I used the same scroll saw. Thanks for your question and for watching. #10. ua-cam.com/video/niSinuF_tdA/v-deo.html #11. ua-cam.com/video/fzkflN8jeyg/v-deo.html #41. ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html #84. ua-cam.com/video/eBQU1PT0EvM/v-deo.html
No, you cannot raise or lower the blade height on the BladeRunner like you can on a table saw. Perhaps this short video will better describe and show how the blade gets inserted. ua-cam.com/video/SAUQ3FkJ2d8/v-deo.html Note that there isn't any mechanism to raise or lower the blade. Thanks for your question and for watching.
Thanks for your question. The short answer is, "it depends on the kinds of cuts your are making". The Dewalt788 is a scroll saw. In my video, I describe the differences between a scroll saw and the Bladerunner. The scroll saw uses much smaller blades so it cuts slower and in much finer detail. The Bladerunner uses jigsaw blades which are much larger than scroll saw blades so it cuts quicker but not as accurately.
Hi. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to a scroll saw and a band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
excellent. i think you covered all my questions. now i need to figure out which works best for me. i would love to see just how intricate the blade runner can cut. maybe there is a video somewhere
Thanks for your comment. There is no question in my mind that the scroll saw is capable of making very intricate cuts compared to the BladeRunner because the scroll saw blade is so much narrower than even a scrolling T-shank jigsaw blade used in the BladeRunner. Since the scroll saw blade is so much smaller, it also cuts slower than the BladeRunner. What kind of project do you have in mind? Perhaps I could make a follow-up video using both the BladeRunner and the scroll saw demonstrating the kinds of cuts you need to make.
Imagine then Make thanks for the reply. I am making slingshot and am wondering how it would work when there is a grip style cut to be made, especially when using micarta, which is made using a hugely tough resin, which can ruin a blade quite quickly
Good question. Since I'm not familiar with micarta, I did a quick UA-cam search and learned a little bit about it. The video I watched showed the guy making his own micarta and then cutting it using a bandsaw. He later sanded his pieces (not sure if he sanded by hand or used a power tool). Since his micarta cut using a bandsaw, I would think you could also cut it using the BladeRunner with the correct blade. However, one think to keep in mind is that if you use the BladeRunner, it will produce a lot of dust while cutting. There is a hose attachment for a shop vacuum which I would suggest using. Also, wear a respirator! Since the BladeRunner is very portable, you also have the option to do your cutting outdoors. And lastly, I have used the BladeRunner to shave material off of my workpiece. I think this works pretty well and again, using the right blade and some patience, I get decent results. I hope this helps. Good luck with your project. If there is something you'd like me to demo in a video, please let me know.
Imagine then Make thanks, that is very helpful. yes, the band saw seem the popular choice for slingshot making, whether wood, micarta or aluminium. really, I am trying to decide between band saw, scroll saw and blade runner, to find the one most suited to my needs. I assume the scroll saw is not so good for something tough like micarta?
The scroll saw excels at making very intricate cuts because the blade is so much finer. Check out my video that compares the BladeRunner to a scroll saw to see what I mean. There is a wide variety of scroll saw blades available so I would imagine that there is a blade that would cut micarta. Something else to keep in mind, the scroll saw and BladeRunner can both be used to make inside and outside cuts whereas a bandsaw can ONLY make outside cuts. See my vid for more details.
i just reviewed the bladerunner it was the biggest pos i ever fired up in my shop, returned it it could not cut anything well, see my video for the live demo of materials used.
It's a shame you chose to return the saw prior to watching my videos. I did watch yours and it seemed like you were struggling installing the blade. To install the blade, just press the red button down and move it to the left. The blades installs easily. Then release the red button and the blade is locked into place. If you removed the red square plastic piece where the blade gets installed and then you press the red button and move it to the left, you'll see how the blade locking mechanism works. I invite you to watch my videos about the BladeRunner and then ask any questions you might have. Perhaps then, you'll decide to give the saw another try. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Saw was total junk im my opinion i cut heavy duty stuff around here it was not having it, the blade insert wasn't the issue it was the lack or articulation on the plunge during the cuts that i think makes it a bad tool along with lack of real blade support. I own a real industrial band saw and saw this cheap saw as something i could use quick to cut plastics and all but thats not the case. maybe mine was defective i don't know but it sure couldn't cut much without an issue as you saw in the video, the vibration was over the top as well and it was placed on a 1200lb industrial work table.
As you already know, all tools have limits and the key is to use the right tool for the job at hand. In my experience, the BladeRunner is best at cutting thinner and softer materials. Currently, I am mostly cutting MDF and thin soft woods (less than 1" thick) so it is a very convenient tool for me. Since you are cutting heavier stuff, I can see why it isn't so useful for you. Since the BladeRunner is fundamentally and inverted jigsaw, anything (within reason) that you could cut using a jigsaw, you should be able to cut using the BladeRunner. With both tools, it is important to use the proper blade. Regarding vibration, I have found that the more firmly the workpiece is pressed against the tabletop, the less vibration there is (which is partly what the hold down foot is used for). I always use the arm/hold down foot when cutting small parts for this reason. Larger parts (that weigh more), I tend to cut without using the arm/hold down foot. The weight of the piece helps to hold it against the table which lessens vibration. It's all about learning how to use the tool and discovering that tools limits.
A band saw with a rip fence and a mitre guage would be a better choice. The blade runner is just an upside down scroll saw. It's very noisy. A band saw is quiet.
A band saw is definitely quieter than the Bladrunner. In this video, I compare the loudness of the Bladerunner to a scroll saw and band saw: ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html . Thanks for your comment and for watching.
The BladeRunner uses standard t-shank blades. I'm not sure how long the longest t-shank blade is but it should work with the BladeRunner. How long of a blade do you need? Also, the BladeRunner is not really designed to cut very think material.
@@olegtolmachev5890 I don't know of a t-shank blade that is that long. Also, it sounds like you are trying to cut a fairly thick piece of wood. The Bladerunner is better suited to cut thinner pieces. In one of my videos, I show trying to cut a 2x4 using the Bladerunner; I was able to get through the piece but the cutting was slow and the saw struggled with a piece that thick. I hope this answers your question.
Thanks for your comment. In some of my other videos, you'll see me making cuts with both of these saws. In general, the Bladerunner cuts faster than a scroll saw. A scroll saw is typically used for more detailed cuttings (finer work) than the Bladerunner. and therefore, cuts slower.
This version of the BladeRunner is much more cheaply produced compared to the 1st version. The 1st version had more metal in it and the arm on the right side. You are right; this version has a lot of plastic in it. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That's the perfect description. It's a toy. I bought it for light cutting, situations where the power of my worm-drive skilsaw is unnecessary or dangerous. It can't even do that.
Hi John. IMO. the BladeRunner is best used for some light cutting (thin soft wood). I don't cut any thick wood (more than 3/4") and I don't cut any metal. I'm sure many who prefer more powerful tools made from mostly metal would consider the BR a "toy". Remember, the BR is basically an inverted jigsaw. Thanks for your comment.
I like using a band saw. In fact here's another video comparing the scroll saw, Bladerunner, and band saw: ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html . Here's the video I made about the Harbor Freight 9" table top bandsaw. As much as I like using the band saw, I have 2 complaints: 1) the blade guides on this saw are OK but nicer saws have much better blade guides and 2) a band saw cannot make inside cuts, only outside cuts. Also, I have gained a lot more experience using the scroll saw from when I made this video and find it to be EXTREMELY versatile. So If I could only buy one saw now, knowing what I know today, I would probably buy a scroll saw (and hopefully have the money to buy a saw with a larger table top). Thanks for your comment and for watching.
BlackTalon 1 Thanks for your comment. Yes, the BladeRunner is basically an inverted jigsaw. Fast forward to the end of my video and you'll hear me state this. I also say several times that which saw you choose depends on the kind of cuts you want to make. Certainly, a scroll saw can make much more intricate cuts compared to the BladeRunner. Likewise, the BladeRunner is much better at certain cuts compared to the scroll saw.
First and foremost this is not a not a good comparison. Your comparing apples to oranges. These are two completely different tools. Sure while they both cut and and can similar things to one another one is a scroll saw and the other is a mini table saw. They were made to do different things. Basically this wood working 101 that any 11 year old should learn from his dad or shop teacher in 15 minutes!
Actually, there are several things that both of these saws have in common from my perspective. Both cut wood. Both are portable and use standard 110vAC. Both are reasonably inexpensive (around $100). Both are reasonably safe to use IMO compared to say a table saw. Yes, the saws are different and intended for different purposes, but I think there is a fair amount of overlap. Very shortly, I will be reviewing an inexpensive band saw and comparing it to these 2 saws, so stay tuned for that video soon.
I personally am very glad for this comparison. I’m looking for a tool to help me do a specific thing and this helped me decide what to purchase. Perhaps for someone that is very familiar with woodworking tools the review is not needed but for a novice like myself it helped me tremendously.
Your presentation is so much clearer than any other one I've seen. I'm glad I heard both of them run. I'm interested in curved cuts only, so the Rockwell saw is out since it does not compare to this (or probably any other scroll saw) for that purpose. An A+ on the review/comparison....
Thanks for your kind words and for watching. There is soooooooo much that can be done using a scroll saw and it is far quieter than the Bladerunner X2. Happy scrolling!
Very helpful video. Wish I had seen this years ago when I bought my saws.
Thank-you for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for the comparisons! Makes me glad i couldn’t get hold of a blade runner and bought a scroll saw!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
I'm going to do the same!!
Very helpful comparison as I was in the market for such a saw... The scroll saw is the way to add to my small amateur work shop....
Thanks for your comment. I recommend getting a scroll saw that can use either pinned end blades or plain end blades. Being able to use either type of blade will be useful.
The harbor freight scroll saw I have uses only pinned send blades. I had to purchase an adaptor to allow me to use plain end blades.
Thanks for watching.
I really appreciate your videos. I gave up my Sear 10" table saw when a piece of wood flew by my head. I am glad I discovered Rockwell Blade Runner. Keep the videos coming!
I'm glad you didn't get hurt by that flying piece of wood! I too have had pieces of wood fly towards me from a table saw which was my primary inspiration for getting rid of it. The Bladerunner is definitely fun to use (although it is loud IMO). I have a playlist of Bladerunner videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html&si=cf8bT5bUpZWCbiyG .
If I want to make lots of cuts quickly, I try using a circular saw (I think it is safer). I use a battery powered model when possible or a corded model if I lots of cuts to make. Here's a playlist about using the circular saw: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD3Cpl2LJax9kvll9B-SDlau.html&si=eS5EEdRfFkL14ZQ6 .
If I only have a few small cuts to make, I tend to use a hand saw; I prefer a Japanese style pull saw.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Of course it was very helpful to watch this side by side comparison! Thank you for the video review! I am learning a lot these couple of days only for watching your videos!
Thanks for watching.
That's a nice thorough comparison, featuring all the things a regular user would care about!
Thanks for watching.
Very well done informational video. The BR can do what a hand held Jigsaw can do, but it can make controlled straight and miter cuts similar to, but not as precision, as a table saw. A scroll saw can do intricate inside cuts that a BR couldn't do.
Agreed. For me, one of the huge differences between the BR and scroll saw is how much noise they make. I don't use hearing protection when using a scroll saw but I do when using the BR. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Nicely explained ... you stated a clear distinction between the two saws. While one might see them as possible competitors, in practice, they are totally different saws that perform different functions. I could see them both having a place in a hobbyist's shop. Well done ... Cheers!
Thanks Dave. I totally agree; both saws have a place in a hobbyist's shop. The biggest downside with the Bladerunner is the amount of noise it makes. Maybe I should work on trying to make it quieter?
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
THANK YOU. I bought a scroll saw a couple of years ago, and now I think I want this BladeRunner.
Hi June. A BladeRunner can definitely cut quicker than a scroll saw but it is substantially louder than a scroll saw. If the cuts you want to make are not as fine or detailed as with a scroll saw, then the BladeRunner might be worth a try. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That was a pretty good review. I own a scroll saw and it's served me well for many years. I have contemplated the other saw, but after seeing your review, I'm having second thoughts. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Hi Terry. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to a scroll saw and a band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
Thank you for this video. Very helpful! Can’t wait to watch your other videos.
Thank-you. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Very interesting, informative and quality video. It is quite timely as I am currently in the process of deciding what scroll saw I want to buy. Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Wow! So thorough. Really helpful. Thank you.
Thank-you!
Thank you for the comparison. I really appreciate the summary comment as thinking of a scroll saw as a motorized coping saw-thanks!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
I just picked up a Blade runner RK7324 for $20 Can or $16 US at a garage sale, guy said he used it only to help build his gazebo and was moving. Great product.
Congratulations on that great buy! Enjoy!
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well done my friend, very thorough! thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for sharing. Very thorough.
You're welcome Chris. I'm glad my video was helpful.
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Everything I needed to know and then some! Thanks for the great video!
You're very welcome. I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching.
excellent comparison review. Appreciate the info.
You're very welcome. I'm glad the video was helpful.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Bladerunner is so much more versatile, instant blade changes, fence and miter gauge. Scroll saw is good for curves. Nice video
I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks, I now know why I choose a scroll saw! Thanks Matt, great information!
Yes, more and more, the scroll saw is becoming my go to tool when making small parts. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I have 2 Bladerunners the original that has variable speed, but has limited rip with the upper blade guide arm. I gave it to my daughters for home projects as it is much safer than a table saw. The Bladerunner 2 has the upper guide support inline with the blade so you can rip wider boards. These are not fine woodworking saws, but work well for hobby and general home projects.
Hi John. I agree; the BR is not a fine woodworking machine. However, if you glue a paper template or draw the cut lines on the wood, you can cut close to the lines and then sand right up to the line. In this way, you can make some pretty good cuts/projects. It might take more time but woodworkers/makers shouldn't be in a rush right?
I have also found some success removing the upper guide support and using deadweight on the workpiece (to help hold it down while cutting). Check out this video ( ua-cam.com/video/W-aKZlOVNlI/v-deo.html } at about the 13 minute mark to see what I am talking about.
FYI: I have a BR playlist on my channel; here's the link: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Terrific analysis without really giving an opinion, which is good, just the details! Hearing the noise levels and already owning one of the scroll saws so I know how good it is, makes the difference for me. The Rockwell is just too noisy for regular use, especially in my classroom which is already very noisy. The price is great though, so if you aren't using one very often and only need it time to time for small projects I'd probably go with the Rockwell, versatile, inexpensive but the noise would drive me crazy for long periods.
Thanks for your comment. When I use the BladeRunner, I always wear hearing protection. What kind of projects do you do in your classroom? Thanks for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake depends on the grade. 7th makes a small wood box to hold notepads that they've designed and made in another class. 8th Grade makes simple plaques of their initials, then present their own design for something (skateboards, cutting boards, small shelves) and manufacture it. 8th grade Transportation students make mousetrap cars, boats, hot air balloons, etc.
Sounds like fun. I bet your students enjoy making the projects.
Thank U for the comparison between a traditional scroll saw and the Bladerunner. I have the Bladerunner X2 and it's prime function is a small, portable table saw. For this function it performs admirably. It's a great alternative to a portable construction table saw such as the Bosch or Dewalt for light-duty work. I was surprised that I could Rip 8 foot 1x2's without any issue!
But, now I need a scroll saw to cut wood, acrylic, and some glass. In this case, as noted in the video, it is not possible to cut anywhere near as precisely on the Bladerunner as a traditional scroll saw. Stick to square holes!
There are a number of inexpensive scroll saws. One in particular, as an example of inexpensive “best practices,” is the Wen 3920 16-inch. It has several features that set it apart including the ability to switch the blade 90 degrees and a 45 degree tilting bed and it cost around $86 at this time.
If U need real scroll saw functionality, forget the Bladerunner. But both, taken together, provide great versatility for hobbyists and homeowners. The Bladerunner is a gem as an inexpensive table saw, well build, durable and from a reputable manufacture.
I agree and thanks for your comment.
Hi Joe. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to the scroll saw and band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
Great video! Thanks! I had no idea the rockwell had that metal pull out thingy to keep it from slipping. Heading out the garage now to go check it out :)
Thanks Dawn. Yes, Rockwell calls that metal piece the "stabilizer bracket" and it is very useful.
Thanks. I subscribed.
This information was I was looking for presented clearly & well.
PS- your name alone almost made subscribe before I watched
Thanks for watching.
Fantastic comparison. Thank you for such a great video
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This is like comparing apples to oranges, as each saw was designed with a different purpose in mind!
I absolutely agree. I thought it might be useful to compare them because some people may only want to spend the money on 1 machine or the other and they are not sure which one would be right for them.
I like both machines but if I had to pick one, I would probably pick the scroll saw. It might cut slower than the Bladerunner but it is A LOT quieter. I also think you can make more accurate cuts with the scroll saw since the blade is held in tension from both ends.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
You are an excellent reviewer. Thank you.
Thanks for your kind words and for watching.
Very informative everything I wanted to know! Keep up the great work
Thank-you!
Very good demo mucho info.I bought the Rockwell to put in wood flooring which is a little heavier blade mostly to use as a table saw for straight cuts. One thing also is the Rockwell has a small table and I made something to keep the long cuts on an even level. the Central Mach. is very limited in that category.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Very precise and helpful! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I had never seen a tool like this, but I had always thought an inverted jigsaw would be useful. Thanks!
Being able to use 2 hands to control the work piece as it goes through the blade makes it very easy to use. It is also A LOT safer to use compared to a table saw.
Wow! My Bladerunner X2 didn't have mounting holes. For that reason, I went for a bandsaw instead. I have to say WTH? I wish I had seen this video a couple of months ago. Thanks for putting this out!
You're welcome!
Excellent. Most informative. Thank you Sir.
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
I have the very first model of bladeruner with metal surface and adjustable speed controller, works great with soft metal copper aluminium etc.
Thanks for your comment. I am definitely jealous. If that model was still in production, I would buy one to try out.
@@ImaginethenMake pls advice a good bandsaw , i need it for metal stock cutting..
How thick and what kind of metal? How accurately do you want to cut it?
you are an amazing educator....thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and for watching.
Hi. My saw blade turns sideways when I use the saw. Can you help me one how to get it to stay straight to cut. Thank you
Which saw are you using, the BladeRunner or a scroll saw?
Thanks for a nice video. Can we attach a Miter to scroll saw or is there anything like that available.?
Watch this video of mine: ua-cam.com/video/NVUfa8sS3Pw/v-deo.html . In the video, I show how I clamped a simple wood fence to my scroll saw table and then made a very straight cut using a spiral blade.
With your comment, you got me thinking about doing a follow-up video using a miter gauge on a scroll saw. Thanks for the idea!
And also thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thank you for the great information.
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Great video, very helpful and very well-done!
Thanks very much! Please feel free to share it! And Happy Holidays !!!
I own the X1 Blade Runner. $50 pawn shop rescue. A Bosch T Shank blade makes it a usable tool. The 1st Generation saw has a poorly designed rail guide system, prone to jamming when feed stock is pushed through.
If crafting small precision pieces; I would buy the (Made in Japan) "MicroLux Tilt Arbor Saw" for $379.95
I use my Blade Runner X1 for 3/4" Pine.
A scroll saw is a good precision machine.
And also costs more than the Blade Runner X2.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Excellent review! Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
I wont completely write off the bladerunner..but that guard blocks your view of what you are doing for more detailed work. So yes the bladerunner is good for straight or angle cuts like making picture frames and stuff.. good review
Yes, the guard (I call it "the foot") does block your view of the cut line. Lately, I have been using it without the guard ("foot") installed. I'm cutting large pieces of soft pine (common board). I put a heavy weight on the board so as I slowly push the wood through the blade, the wood has less of a tendency to jump (the heavy weight helps hold the wood down). I find that I can make reasonably accurate straight cuts and curved cuts (using a scrolling jigsaw blade). The heavy weight helps a lot. Hope this helps and thanks for your comment.
@@ImaginethenMake Yes I take it off at times too..but the wobble is terrible from the blade then.. Oh well.. going to invest in a scroll saw anyhow.. WEN has a pretty decent one over on Amazon pretty inexpensive..
Got a Blade Runner X2 for $35 in excellent shape, but still want a scroll saw- now I know what I can do in the meantime! Thanks, going through your videos!
Hi Tim. Congrats on the used BR. Nice price! Have fun experimenting with it. Always remember to let the blade do the work (don't push the wood too hard).
Yes, a scroll saw it a VERY versatile tool and perhaps underrated by many casual woodworkers and crafters.. There are SO many very talented and creative scrollers out there to take inspiration from. Not sure if you watched the video where I disclosed that the Harbor Freight scroll saw that I use, I bought used (but in great condition) for $40. I did replace the blade holders for about $50. All in all, a VERY low price to get started with scrolling. (And the blades are cheap too!).
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake I got mine yesterday for cutting pen blanks. I had to push very hard otherwise the blank will not be going.
Thanks for your comment. I'm not sure if you were using a Bladerunner or a scroll saw, but in either case, a sharp blade with right number of teeth per inch (TPI) can make all the difference.
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@@ImaginethenMake I have Rockwell blade runner. The blade is brand new. I tried to cut the purple heart blank which is hard wood. Thanks for replying.
I have never worked with purple heart, but from what I have read, it is a very hard and dense wood and can be difficult to cut. I think you will need to try a number of different kinds of blades before you find the one that works best for you.
Thanks for your reply. Good luck, stay safe, and have fun!
So for straight cuts and earmuffs it's the bladerunner
And for long hours of detailed work without aggravating everyone in the home, the scroll saw
I agree knowing what I knew back then (I made this video quite a long time ago). Now, I have a different opinion.
Lately, I have been doing a lot more with the scroll saw and trying to learn how to use it better. (Check out my scroll saw playlist to see what I have been up to.) If I were to choose between the 2 machines now, I would choose to use the scroll saw for both the straight and curved cuts.
The difference to me is in the way the blade is held. On the BladeRunner, the blade is only held on one end. On the scroll saw, the blade is under tension while being held by both ends. I think this is what makes the scroll saw a more accurate saw.
The other thing I have gained more experience with is the choice of blades for both the BladeRunner (t-shank jigsaw blades) and the scroll saw (5" pin end and pinless blades with many different blade profiles). I have found that there are some relatively wide scroll saw blades which make it reasonably simple to make very straight cuts. There are also some narrow and very narrow scroll saw blades that can make detailed to very detailed cuts; cuts the BladeRunner could never make.
Yes, the BladeRunner might be able to cut a little quicker (because the blades are bigger than scroll saw blades), but the cut accuracy is just not there compared to the scroll saw in my opinion. Now, many woodworkers make their cuts somewhat away from the cut line and then sand to the line to end up with accurate cuts and you can certainly do that with either saw.
I hope this makes sense.
You also noted that the scroll saw is a lot quieter to use which is a big plus for me.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I agree with all you said. But blade Runner is more sutable for most people and curve requirement in average. I am also a furniture maker and its important to say bladerunner doesn't require the same set of skills. New people will keep Braking those tinny blades like my student do ;) its another world.
I hear what you are saying. Different skills are needed for each machine. I've never broken a jigsaw blade, but I have broken a few scroll saw blades.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Excellent review video. 👍
Thank-you
Thanks for the comparison video. After a day of research I think I’m gonna go with the $80 WEN scroll saw from amazon. I have never used a scroll saw but it has good reviews and it’s pretty affordable.
Thanks for watching. I suggest getting a scroll saw that takes either pin end blades or pinless blades. The scroll saw in the video only works with pin end blades. I'm not sure about the saw you are looking at.
Imagine then Make thank you. I got lucky and the one I ordered takes both kinds of blades. It should get here this weekend. I don’t have much time to practice as I already have to scroll a name that I was asked to do for next weekend. I plan on doing a practice run on cheap pine and then doing it on the good wood after a couple of practice runs. Really enjoying your videos. 👍🏼
Good luck with the new saw!
Congratulations on finding that bargain! For $25, I think it is a steal. Thanks for your comment.
Glad to be here and an easy flow watching.
Thanks. I have soooooo many more videos planned.
What's the story on BladeRunner? The big box stores don't stock it. It's available online only. I figured Harbor Freight would have their own version by now, but they don't. The reviews I've read say it can't cut straight lines, the blade bends.
I first time I saw the Bladerunner was at my local Loews years ago, but when I went back to buy one, they were out of stock and not sure when they'd get more, so I got mine from Amazon. amzn.to/33hAcYs
Despite what you have heard, you can make straight and curved cuts without bending the blade. The key is to use the correct blade and let the blade do the work (don't push the wood too hard through the blade).
I do have a video of me making a fun project out of pine using mostly the Bladerunner to make the cuts (2 different kinds of blades). Here's the link to the video if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/W-aKZlOVNlI/v-deo.htmlsi=PTu49GZYE_d1f-zC .
My biggest complaint about the BR is that is it loud (vacuum cleaner loud) so I use hearing protection. The best thing about the BR is how easy it is to change blades.
I have a playlist of BR related videos; here's the link: ua-cam.com/play/PLGCBwUeR2BD2SPSsV51qPBkK8p1grR-UL.html&si=AY_xI7nWOfsX_rm0 .
Thanks for your questions and for watching. If you have any other questions, feel free to leave me another comment.
I have the scroll saw. It works well, but the blades will overheat and break quite easily. I can see the advantage of the blade runner right away. I dont much care about noise, but I do care very much about the result.
Thanks for your comment.
What this really is, is a comparison between a table mounted jigsaw, and a scrollsaw. The two are not comparable. They do totally different job, and the scroll is for detailed job specific things, and a jig is for larger woodworking jobs which cannot be reached by the table saw or chop saw. Jigsaws are just powered hand saws that can cut radiuses, I know plenty of people who mount them into a tabletop, but that is often after buying a second one for handheld jobs, you limit their options by putting them into a table. The Bladerunner is for those people that do not know that a bandsaw is what they really need.
Thanks for your comments Chris.
I agree with you to a point. I actually have done 2 videos comparing the BladeRunner, scroll saw, and bandsaw. In those videos, I speak about the differences as I see them. Check out videos #41 and #84 for more.
Thanks for watching.
Good video
Thank-you,
Great Review! Very helpful
You're welcome.
I am looking for something to cut plywood.. 3/4" max. I will be making yard art and the cheap handheld jigsaw I used last time was a terrible experience. I need something I can easily maneuver to cut through all the curves from my drawings. About 3"w x 5" h average. Any suggestions?
Thanks for your question. Take a look at my Bladerunner videos. I think this might be just the right tool for you. The Bladerunner is basically an inverted jigsaw so you move the wood through the blade (as opposed to moving the blade through the wood while using a standard jigsaw). You are able to use both hands to move the wood so you have great control and can make accurate cuts. I think you might like this much more than the jigsaw. If you decide to try the Bladerunner, let me know and I can make some suggestions for the type of blade you might want to try.
Imagine then Make yes, I think a bladerunner sounds like a good option. I dont want the cutting process to take too long or at least not as long.
vee Marzz I got mine from Amazon but you might find it locally. Give it try, and if you don't like it, return it.
What brand scroll saw is the old school looking one
Central Machinery sold by Harbor Freight. This video: ua-cam.com/video/niSinuF_tdA/v-deo.html gives you the details on the saw.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
I just got a BladeRunner X2 for Christmas, but I am concerned because the blade is so far forward of the two side bearings, that they can't even touch the blade should it be deflected to either side. If deflected, the blade would touch the screws that hold the bearings in place, but not the bearings themselves. ItM, does yours exhibit this property? Thanks!
I will take a closer look at my saw tomorrow and get back to you here. Are you using the blades that came with the saw?
I made a quick video to address your question. Hope this helps: ua-cam.com/video/XbLFCrAQZrE/v-deo.html
muchas gracias por su gran video!!!
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Thanks for this video. I was pretty sold on the Bladerunner but that difference in sound was pretty striking. Maybe I should look into that scroll saw before making a decision...
Yes, the BladeRunner is loud IMO. But so is my table saw and circular saw. Normally I wear hearing protection, eye protection, and a respirator (rated for paint fumes) when using most of my power tools.
Be aware that the scroll saw, although a great tool to have, cuts much slower. It also is used when making more detailed cuts and IMO, requires more skill than using the BladeRunner.
Thanks for watching.
Which mini scroll saw machine is better ??
I'm not sure what you mean by "mini scroll saw machine". Currently (Oct 2021), 9 times out of 10, I'll choose to use the scroll saw over the Bladerunner because 1) the blade is supported on both ends and 2) the scroll saw is a lot quieter. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
This was great! Have you liked that scroll saw even though its a really cheap one?
Yes, I still like the saw especially after replacing the blabe holders so I could start using pinless blades. Here's the video: ua-cam.com/video/W83TllFnMgs/v-deo.html .
Thanks for your question and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Awesome, I'll check out that video. I've seen a few of the same saw for sale second hand for around 30 bucks, I'll have to pull the trigger now!
I bought mine used (but in like new condition) for $40. Brand new ones can be bought for $100 when on sale. Good Luck!
The BladeRunner is my least used and least favorite tool. An underpowered jigsaw in a bulky package.
Thanks for your comment. Do you prefer to use a regular jigsaw or a different tool altogether?
Liked the video ,but the Blade runner is a accessory to have with a scroll saw or vice versa ..If you are limited to the tools you have in your work shop . I am a scroller and the blade runner would aid in the creations i make being I could make thick wood thinner etc and also the blade runner is a a great portable DIY machine for around the shop and home .Not going to do fret work with a blade runner....They are both great machines and compliment each other.Keep up the videos .
Thanks. I agree....the Bladerunner and scroll saw do complement each other nicely. There are many differences but most notably is the blade size and therefore the kinds of cuts each is best suited for.
My Blade Runner manual states there is a variable speed adjustment under the saw.
Yes, the old version of the Bladerunner (model RK7321) had a variable speed motor control located under the table on the left side. Unfortunately, the model that I own does not have a motor speed control. There were also several other nice features with this older model (2 miter slots, a miter gauge that also serves as a fence, power cord wind up spools, stainless steel top, blade support off to the side and not in back). If they still made this saw, I would buy one to try, particularly for the variable motor speed control. Thanks for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake Gosh, so that wasn't progress; it was regress!
I love the used scroll saw you bought for $30.00. What brand/model is it? What yr was it made? I will look for that one. I have a more basic Craftsman 1985 year model. It has tight tension. I prefer tensioner. Also my blades are 3 inch long blades. Very hard to find. I bought two small packs I found.i need to change to a 5 inch blade scroll saw. Please advise. Most Humble Appreciation! Alton
Hello Alton. The scroll saw is made by Central Machinery and is sold through the Harbor Freight stores. I got lucky by stumbling upon the used one. I still have the saw and use it from time to time. Below are a few links to other videos where I used the same scroll saw. Thanks for your question and for watching.
#10. ua-cam.com/video/niSinuF_tdA/v-deo.html
#11. ua-cam.com/video/fzkflN8jeyg/v-deo.html
#41. ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
#84. ua-cam.com/video/eBQU1PT0EvM/v-deo.html
Can you raise the blade up like on a table saw
No, you cannot raise or lower the blade height on the BladeRunner like you can on a table saw. Perhaps this short video will better describe and show how the blade gets inserted. ua-cam.com/video/SAUQ3FkJ2d8/v-deo.html Note that there isn't any mechanism to raise or lower the blade. Thanks for your question and for watching.
I use a Dewalt788. Do you recommend a bladerunner?
Thanks for your question. The short answer is, "it depends on the kinds of cuts your are making".
The Dewalt788 is a scroll saw. In my video, I describe the differences between a scroll saw and the Bladerunner.
The scroll saw uses much smaller blades so it cuts slower and in much finer detail. The Bladerunner uses jigsaw blades which are much larger than scroll saw blades so it cuts quicker but not as accurately.
Hi. Check out my latest video where I compare the BladeRunner to a scroll saw and a band saw and let me know what you think. thanks! ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html
excellent. i think you covered all my questions. now i need to figure out which works best for me. i would love to see just how intricate the blade runner can cut. maybe there is a video somewhere
Thanks for your comment.
There is no question in my mind that the scroll saw is capable of making very intricate cuts compared to the BladeRunner because the scroll saw blade is so much narrower than even a scrolling T-shank jigsaw blade used in the BladeRunner. Since the scroll saw blade is so much smaller, it also cuts slower than the BladeRunner.
What kind of project do you have in mind? Perhaps I could make a follow-up video using both the BladeRunner and the scroll saw demonstrating the kinds of cuts you need to make.
Imagine then Make thanks for the reply. I am making slingshot and am wondering how it would work when there is a grip style cut to be made, especially when using micarta, which is made using a hugely tough resin, which can ruin a blade quite quickly
Good question. Since I'm not familiar with micarta, I did a quick UA-cam search and learned a little bit about it. The video I watched showed the guy making his own micarta and then cutting it using a bandsaw. He later sanded his pieces (not sure if he sanded by hand or used a power tool).
Since his micarta cut using a bandsaw, I would think you could also cut it using the BladeRunner with the correct blade. However, one think to keep in mind is that if you use the BladeRunner, it will produce a lot of dust while cutting. There is a hose attachment for a shop vacuum which I would suggest using. Also, wear a respirator!
Since the BladeRunner is very portable, you also have the option to do your cutting outdoors.
And lastly, I have used the BladeRunner to shave material off of my workpiece. I think this works pretty well and again, using the right blade and some patience, I get decent results.
I hope this helps. Good luck with your project. If there is something you'd like me to demo in a video, please let me know.
Imagine then Make thanks, that is very helpful. yes, the band saw seem the popular choice for slingshot making, whether wood, micarta or aluminium. really, I am trying to decide between band saw, scroll saw and blade runner, to find the one most suited to my needs.
I assume the scroll saw is not so good for something tough like micarta?
The scroll saw excels at making very intricate cuts because the blade is so much finer. Check out my video that compares the BladeRunner to a scroll saw to see what I mean. There is a wide variety of scroll saw blades available so I would imagine that there is a blade that would cut micarta.
Something else to keep in mind, the scroll saw and BladeRunner can both be used to make inside and outside cuts whereas a bandsaw can ONLY make outside cuts. See my vid for more details.
i just reviewed the bladerunner it was the biggest pos i ever fired up in my shop, returned it it could not cut anything well, see my video for the live demo of materials used.
It's a shame you chose to return the saw prior to watching my videos. I did watch yours and it seemed like you were struggling installing the blade. To install the blade, just press the red button down and move it to the left. The blades installs easily. Then release the red button and the blade is locked into place. If you removed the red square plastic piece where the blade gets installed and then you press the red button and move it to the left, you'll see how the blade locking mechanism works.
I invite you to watch my videos about the BladeRunner and then ask any questions you might have. Perhaps then, you'll decide to give the saw another try.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Saw was total junk im my opinion i cut heavy duty stuff around here it was not having it, the blade insert wasn't the issue it was the lack or articulation on the plunge during the cuts that i think makes it a bad tool along with lack of real blade support. I own a real industrial band saw and saw this cheap saw as something i could use quick to cut plastics and all but thats not the case. maybe mine was defective i don't know but it sure couldn't cut much without an issue as you saw in the video, the vibration was over the top as well and it was placed on a 1200lb industrial work table.
As you already know, all tools have limits and the key is to use the right tool for the job at hand. In my experience, the BladeRunner is best at cutting thinner and softer materials. Currently, I am mostly cutting MDF and thin soft woods (less than 1" thick) so it is a very convenient tool for me. Since you are cutting heavier stuff, I can see why it isn't so useful for you.
Since the BladeRunner is fundamentally and inverted jigsaw, anything (within reason) that you could cut using a jigsaw, you should be able to cut using the BladeRunner. With both tools, it is important to use the proper blade.
Regarding vibration, I have found that the more firmly the workpiece is pressed against the tabletop, the less vibration there is (which is partly what the hold down foot is used for). I always use the arm/hold down foot when cutting small parts for this reason. Larger parts (that weigh more), I tend to cut without using the arm/hold down foot. The weight of the piece helps to hold it against the table which lessens vibration. It's all about learning how to use the tool and discovering that tools limits.
A band saw with a rip fence and a mitre guage would be a better choice. The blade runner is just an upside down scroll saw. It's very noisy. A band saw is quiet.
A band saw is definitely quieter than the Bladrunner. In this video, I compare the loudness of the Bladerunner to a scroll saw and band saw: ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html .
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That blade runner is nothing but a glory hole for a jigsaw...
I've never quite heard it put that way. Thanks for watching.
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Can use more long saw on Bladerunner?
The BladeRunner uses standard t-shank blades. I'm not sure how long the longest t-shank blade is but it should work with the BladeRunner. How long of a blade do you need? Also, the BladeRunner is not really designed to cut very think material.
@@ImaginethenMake I want use saw about 12 sm long for cut mahagony
Sorry, I don't understand your question.
@@ImaginethenMake I mean blade with 5 " long
@@olegtolmachev5890 I don't know of a t-shank blade that is that long. Also, it sounds like you are trying to cut a fairly thick piece of wood. The Bladerunner is better suited to cut thinner pieces. In one of my videos, I show trying to cut a 2x4 using the Bladerunner; I was able to get through the piece but the cutting was slow and the saw struggled with a piece that thick. I hope this answers your question.
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I was hoping for a performance comparison. That was only features.
Thanks for your comment. In some of my other videos, you'll see me making cuts with both of these saws. In general, the Bladerunner cuts faster than a scroll saw. A scroll saw is typically used for more detailed cuttings (finer work) than the Bladerunner. and therefore, cuts slower.
That Rockwell feels like a toy. Plastic everything. Passed.
This version of the BladeRunner is much more cheaply produced compared to the 1st version. The 1st version had more metal in it and the arm on the right side. You are right; this version has a lot of plastic in it. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That's the perfect description. It's a toy. I bought it for light cutting, situations where the power of my worm-drive skilsaw is unnecessary or dangerous. It can't even do that.
Hi John. IMO. the BladeRunner is best used for some light cutting (thin soft wood). I don't cut any thick wood (more than 3/4") and I don't cut any metal. I'm sure many who prefer more powerful tools made from mostly metal would consider the BR a "toy". Remember, the BR is basically an inverted jigsaw.
Thanks for your comment.
just ordered some of those starrett jigsaw scroll blades will see how they do on the BRunner
Great! Please let us know how these blades are working out for you.
scroll saw doesnt have a blade compartment. One point for Blade Runner.
Yes, that's true; no blade compartment built into the scroll saw. Do you use either of these saws? Thanks for watching.
A band saw would be a better choice.
I like using a band saw. In fact here's another video comparing the scroll saw, Bladerunner, and band saw: ua-cam.com/video/mVGa4cUj_nY/v-deo.html . Here's the video I made about the Harbor Freight 9" table top bandsaw. As much as I like using the band saw, I have 2 complaints: 1) the blade guides on this saw are OK but nicer saws have much better blade guides and 2) a band saw cannot make inside cuts, only outside cuts.
Also, I have gained a lot more experience using the scroll saw from when I made this video and find it to be EXTREMELY versatile. So If I could only buy one saw now, knowing what I know today, I would probably buy a scroll saw (and hopefully have the money to buy a saw with a larger table top).
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Blade runner is NOT a scroll saw, just a jigsaw with table. Can't do intricate work, cheap crap.
BlackTalon 1 Thanks for your comment. Yes, the BladeRunner is basically an inverted jigsaw. Fast forward to the end of my video and you'll hear me state this.
I also say several times that which saw you choose depends on the kind of cuts you want to make. Certainly, a scroll saw can make much more intricate cuts compared to the BladeRunner. Likewise, the BladeRunner is much better at certain cuts compared to the scroll saw.
Oh and i cant count that high. Lol
lol. Thanks for watching.
First and foremost this is not a not a good comparison. Your comparing apples to oranges. These are two completely different tools. Sure while they both cut and and can similar things to one another one is a scroll saw and the other is a mini table saw. They were made to do different things. Basically this wood working 101 that any 11 year old should learn from his dad or shop teacher in 15 minutes!
Actually, there are several things that both of these saws have in common from my perspective. Both cut wood. Both are portable and use standard 110vAC. Both are reasonably inexpensive (around $100). Both are reasonably safe to use IMO compared to say a table saw.
Yes, the saws are different and intended for different purposes, but I think there is a fair amount of overlap.
Very shortly, I will be reviewing an inexpensive band saw and comparing it to these 2 saws, so stay tuned for that video soon.
I personally am very glad for this comparison. I’m looking for a tool to help me do a specific thing and this helped me decide what to purchase. Perhaps for someone that is very familiar with woodworking tools the review is not needed but for a novice like myself it helped me tremendously.
Glad the video helped. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
APPLES AND ORANGES
Agreed. Different saws for different jobs. Thanks for watching.