First of all they dont just replace cats for no reason. There are guidelines for replacements and my guess is that either the car has some type of fuel issue or excessive blowby.
I just retired after 25 yrs as the director of Finance from a Ford dealership and we had some lemon law cars I wouldnt give to anyone. Thats how bad they were. However though, there are some situations that it makes sense to buy a car and take a chance on it. I totally agree with you that if the previous owner was elderly and most ( not all ) senior citizens dont like or understand the new tech on these cars and I totally agree that the stop/start feature could easily have contributed to this case I would love to know if you have had any issues on this car since u got it ..... I am a new subscriber and love what you do !!
I know, old comment and all. But wanted to put few cents on it. Its not just elderly who hates start-stop with passion. Im 27 and I would NEVER buy start-stop car. XD
Arunix .... Why not?? My new car has stop start & when I start the engine I just switch it off🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ The car is awesome, if I insisted on no stop start, I couldn’t have bought it..
@@MC-nb6jx everyone has preferences, I personally dont like the idea of it,nwith some cars it feels less secure too if you dont even have to press anything to unlock it
the car has an actual issue. engine shuts off mid drive and won't start again. he took it to Ford 3 times or so and can't be fixed. I wouldn't buy a lemon.. you need a lawyer in most states to get a car lemon'd so it's not like it's easy to lemon law it
I live in the United States and I don't know how he did that. Cheapest flights I can ever find are like $200/person. I must be looking on the wrong websites?
David Anderson I just bought a used 17 gt350 yesterday.. same color but with a few more options... price was $9000k more.. it only had 7k miles... I am kinda kicking myself but then I go in my garage, start it up and I’m ok again... wait... how much did I just pay!?!?!?!(Back to the garage)
As someone who had Ford buy a lemon back, I have to give you a reality check here. It is NOT easy to get a manufacturer to buy a car back. They take a huge loss and will do everything in their power to convince you to keep the car. Many people even get attorneys to force the buyback (I'm not an attorney but I have been an expert witness in court, so I can hold my own.) The point here is that Ford would NEVER buy back this car unless there was something seriously wrong with it. They would never replace the catalyst TWICE and fix electrical problems unless there was actually a legitimate issue. Also warning lights don't just show up at random; something makes them turn on. The car I made Ford buy back had the transmission serviced once and totally replaced twice. I asked them to give me a new car, but they refused even though I told them that if they didn't, I would file a lemon law claim. They also told me that almost nobody gets cars bought back and it's their policy to keep fixing a car until it's fixed no matter how many times they try! Finally, at the hearing, they offered to replace my car, which had 17,000 miles at that point, with a brand new one. I told them that it was too late; if they did that at the dealer 4 months earlier, when I clearly showed all my documentation proving my car was a lemon, I would have accepted, but to offer this at the lemon law hearing was downright offensive. I also watched Paul K's UA-cam video a few months ago when he explained his saga getting rid of his Dodge Challenger Hellcat lemon, and you can see what a difficult process it was - this is the case for EVERYONE! All of this should demonstrate that this was NOT a car that was returned because a person didn't understand the engine autostart/stop and just wasn't happy with the car. Even if the salespeople never mentioned it, the first time a person would bring it in for service, they would explain that it's how the car works and NOT fix wiring issues or replace a catalyst! A car will be steeply discounted for a reason. Whether it's from accident damage, excessively high mileage, or because it was a lemon, the discount reflects the issues with the car. You are not going to get a nearly new car for over 50% off because it's perfect and the original owner didn't like it. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
Some times things aren’t too good to be true. Sometimes people just don’t want something so they pretty much give it away (not talking about cars though).
Mikem 2k my Kia has 8 starters replaced a computer system fuse box was replaced and head lights brake lights and windows and dash light and instrument cluster would randomly still stop while driving it also did it at night
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson all American cars are basically worse shitter made fiats a with no thoughts given to design and with possibly the worst build quality ever, especially car interiors lol 😂 ohhh my god they look horrendous
Do not buy Lemon Cars unless you're really informed. Buybacks happened because the manufacture could not fix the issue 100% and it's been attempted several times. Very few get buy getting their vehicle bought back because of being lied to about a packages etc. So, buying one of these you will definitely be using the warranty and also some documents are not always provided to the consumer. Consider bad electrical -something that would have to be replaced. or extreme cases of complete engine replacement.
That couldnt be further from the truth... since dealerships are independently owned and not by the manufacturer, the service advisors just want to make a quick dollar and since it is under warranty they take a cost cut. The longer it takes for a repair, The lower their commission is because they are stuck on one customer. In all of the cases i have seen a buyback could have been avoided if they would have involved the engineers the second time it came in. Other than that if the vehicle has been out of service for 30 days they qualify for lemon law, and most of the time the reason it is out of service is because the parts supplier didnt build the part fast enough
bessem mabrouk of course. If you search Covington Ford on google it’s located in Covington, GA, about 45 minutes East of Atlanta, GA. Like Sam said, they have a bunch of great deals on the lemons, if you’re willing to take the chance!
I had a car bought back by the manufacturer as a lemon once. My car kept having turbo related issues where the wastegate would get stuck open. It turns out that the dealership was using the wrong oil for the 5000 mile service intervals. We ended up getting another vehicle from the same manufacturer, which started having a repeated issue at around 50K miles. I traded that car in for another manufacturer vehicle and have had that car for 16 years now. Personally I would never buy a lemon car, but you may be lucky.
I work at a GM dealership and we have a whole lot off site for auction/online sales that is all lemon cars and it matches our current inventory if not beats it. Mainly anything to do with a GM truck chassis due to their terrible vibration issues.
I am 74 years old and I am sure all of our daddys' told us "You get what you pay for." never forget that. Learned it as a young age and has been good advice all my life!
Bought an 06 Buick lucerne from an arizona snowbird who sold it up here in MN for 6k.Only 75k miles, no rust, previous owner has replaced alternator, battery, intake manifold gasket, water pump and radiator.However previous owner never changed coolant until about 2019 which in combination with poor materials for intake manifold gasket and "coolant elbows" contributed to that issue.Only myself had a minor issue with a MAF sensor, otherwise been a great car.I was wary due to its history of total repairs (this is just a summary) but part of what made me buy it is that it was NOT the SAME issue repeatedly.Also since its 14 years old there is plenty of info available to consumers and Buick master technicians. Have had it about 9 months, taken on several trips.Plenty of features and life left in this Buick.
Those wheels are painted silver on the European market mk2 rs if they had the logo on the centre and the rs emblem in the squares They would look more oem
If it was a buyback because it repeatedly could not be fixed, remind us of why you think it got really fixed this time around? And what happens if it still has those problems? Auto-stop-start systems usually can be disabled, check the setup options.
Most of those cars still have warranty. For someone like samcrac that can be patient with a car that's constantly being repaired (for free) it could work out. Would be a bad choice for someone who only has one car that they commute to work in.
I just bought a car with a rebuilt title and I couldn’t be more happy! It looks like it just came from the factory and I got a really great price for it, I studied this channel for a long time before buying! 2005 Mustang GT Premium
I’m all for features that save gas, or reduce emissions, but I feel like “start stop technology“ is just a cheap cop out, it saves very little fuel, and puts unnecessary wear on the starter system. If cars are going to use a start stop system they need a more robust power reserve to allow power steering and other features to remain operational. Riding with a friend in their new impala over the winter, the start stop was only able to shut the engine off for a few second before the battery drain from the heat caused it to fire back up again. And the shutter when it starts is annoying and makes the car feel cheap. I drive a hybrid so it’s considerably different, but a conventional car should not cut off at a light.
In the right driving environment-urban environments with a lot of horrible traffic-start stop can save a lot of gas. A badly implemented system can be obnoxious but a well done system has beefed up components that make it work right.
Agreed it's not for everyone and there should be an option to disable it. In some instances it can use more fuel, and does cause more wear to the engine itself, not the starter as it's designed for the job. Fact is though, the engine is still going to complete more revolutions with zero/low oil pressure than an equivalent model without the feature.
So... before everyone thinks you truley saved $20,000k, private party value on kbb(more than any dealership would consider) in perfect condition .. that SUV is worth between $26k-28k..non lemon.. so, you realistically only saved between $3k-$5k... and bought a lemon car........you didnt save $20,000.... besides, lincolns for some reason dont hold their value and, you would be unwise to purchase one new. Great video and an 'alright' deal
What KBB are you looking at? Blue Book is 34-36k for that 2017 with same mileage, trim, color... So it's more like half his quote of 10k, not 20k, but still...
Go be an investment banker and quit with you and people like constantly talking about holding value so you can resale at some point and not lose much. You can always buy a belly button, me too Honda, Mazda or Toyota, drive a boring car and have resale because most people will overpay for perceived value.
I bought my '15 MKC CPO Dec 15. It's had so many issues. Multiple battery failures. Rear tire well flooding when rains. Leaking from front windshield. A trunk module that repeatedly locked when the car was off till it failed and needed replacement. Transmission lurching. It has a 100k CPO warranty and it's comfortable. Those are the only reasons why I keep it. I chalked up these issues to 1st year model growing pains. I still managed to get my best friend to buy one brand new. A 2017 Reserve in white. A 4yr 50k warranty and anytime you need service or repair, Lincoln will come to your house or work and give you another Lincoln to drive and take your car for whatever it needs. All for free. In or out of warranty. And whether it was new or used. Just has to be a 17 or newer. I sold it on it being comfortable, luxurious and never have to go to a dealer again. You got an amazing deal indeed! And I thought I did good buying one 7k less than it was worth. Wow!!
The big Lincolns are typically bought by retirees. The Ford dealers/salesmen are notorious for not explaining major new driving experiences as car basics change. The PowerShift automatic was a case in point. No explanation to any buyer that this was not a hydromatic, but was instead a automatic electric clutch car. It will not hold a hill forever while you put your foot from brake to gas, you slip back (scary for Secretary Jane who bashes the car behind her). It was designed for Europeans so you're supposed to put your foot in it hard like an Italian tuneup. Secretary Jane putters about in stop and go traffic. Same thing happened in 1992 when brake depress was required to shift from Park into any gear. No explanation by the salesman. They don't want to talk about it because they might scare off the sale. Pretend cars are the same as 1970, forever. Sounds like the exact thing happened with this autostop. Car stops, driver confused, driver turns key off and restarts car, driver assumes car is defective.
The funny thing about this is your not entirely wrong many cases and went mini dealership a lot of features are not explained or shown thoroughly one of the ways I mean a lot of my half deals with some of the sales people was in fact showing the features after the sale if anyone had questions or the sales people are not bothered it they would just asked me hey do you mind showing off these features are going around
To be fair, the auto stop-start is stupidly designed on this car. The power steering should never cut out while you are sitting at the light. Assuming that's working as intended, that makes no sense.
I think it is a great deal, I never even knew that a "lemon law" existed, I don't think we have that here in Canada. And indeed we do not have that, just looked it up. I do recall buying a brand new vehicle and at 800 km (~550 miles) I was back in the shop getting new rotors and calipers, something with it had been sitting for a while, yada-yadah-yah. At 2600 I had issues with the brakes again and that is when I basically told them that I would not want the car anymore if this kept going. I mean, come on, two sets of brake repairs, thank god it was the warranty. After this it never had a problem again and I drove close to 200,000 km with it. Huh.... lemon law.... we need that here.
@@BillMan2002 what kind of inspection? I mean I have no idea what qualifies as a lemon in US but being in a dealership sometimes the complaints I hear is ridiculous.
that engine start/stop feature that kills the power steering seems ridiculous. I can easily see how someone that didn't know about it would think something is wrong with the car.
I work at a ford dealer and I'm not surprised it was lemon lawed. Lincoln customers have such a high standards and complain about the tiniest issues. And if we can't duplicate the issue described, we can't replace anything. So not really surprised! Good purchase! They are very nice cars
Loved how on the test drive you can see a hand try to cover the Chik Fil A logo on a cup in the rear seat cup holder!!! No free plug for Chic Fil A?? haha
I bought my car from the same dealer. My 2014 Ford Fiesta Titanium was branded a buyback, got it at 9k miles. Now has 72k and it's doing fantastic. It's been in the shop for the same issue numerous times, but it's finally fixed.
I think you hit the nail right on the head with the auto start stop that guy just didn't like it and I bet you they bought it back to keep a long term customer happy
"...they found some loose wires." I bought a Chevy Prizm new back in the day. The throttle would sometimes stick after I floored it. The dealer replaced most of the throttle linkage under warranty. When it happened again after the warranty expired, they said just to remove the after-market floor mats which would 'catch' the throttle pedal. That solved the problem permanently. Maybe everything was ok and your dealership tried whatever to fix "the stalling" because the manufacturer was picking up the tab.
Kick ass deal. Thank you for opening my eyes that these were even an option. My husband and I watched this while eating our favorite #9 Jersey Mike's! Husband said, "wow! That was a really good video. Super informative". I hope it's all well and the car goes strong for miles to come. Cheers to you and your wife and her new car. (Haha {her} new car)
be careful with lemon cars, almost all of them aren't like this, most exist because there's a problem hindering functionality, and the manufacture cannot find the cause, so if you go in thinking you'll find a good deal, you almost always end up paying 10-20k for something that doesn't work, so unless you're extremely knowledgeable with car you're interested, including all of mechanical and electrical systems, and understand how to repair the problems that not even the manufacturer could fix, it's just not advised.
That whole “Lincoln Lawyer Lemon Lincoln” bit earned you a new Subscriber! Also Congratulations on the new car! I’m going to go check out your other videos
When the very first ford escape came out i went to a dealer to check it out. Walked through the lit and noticed very fast how most of them were rushed through production to meet whatever deadline was established for launching the product. Missing parts, wyper blades, etc. The most intriguing was one having V6 badges all around but a 4-cyl motor under the hood.
I bought a brand new 2003 Escape V6 AWD , a car in it's 2nd year of production. I HATED it pretty much the first week I owned it, but stuck with it for six months until I just couldn't anymore. It's the only car I've ever owned that made me feel emasculated which is crazy of course - it was black, not bright pink, but anyway, yeah I just didn't like the fucker. So, no doubt I lost thousands, but I ended up buying a used wholesale (high miles) Expedition I drove for a year then bought the new body style (at the time) 2004 F150 Lariat in black/black leather and I was fine after that. Then many more after THAT, but yeah that was my Escape experience...
Something is weird about that dealer. You look at that RS and it lists for 25.9 but what you click on the car for pictures and details the price changes to 33.9. lol Something isnt right here.
he posted a video where it broke down 3 times randomly and wouldn't start and he thought it was the battery and it's still broken and took it to Ford and they can't fix it either lol moral of the story: don't buy lemon unless you want to gamble
A long time Ford owner and Technician . Ford has had problems with low bid wire harnesses that cause false codes to appear. The Focus and Escape has had recalls already.
You do your research. You really are wise and an expert in car buying. People should pay you to shop for them. I now know ways to shop thanks to you. Congrats on the new car. Outstanding video.
I had a friend that bought a used Cadillac. It had been bought back three times before she bought it. She loved it and had no issues. I had access to GMs repair history, but didn't dare tell her anything.
Because that's insanely irresponsible driving, driving when you're that tired is equally dangerous as drunk driving. A high school classmate of mine and an entire family died in a head on collision because one of them fell asleep while driving and drove into the other lane on a two lane mountain road. If you're falling asleep even once pull the hell over and take a nap and get a coffee.
Awesome deal Sam ! I've got a Ford Focus 1.0 Ecoboost that I bought brand new in Bulgaria for about 19 000 USD and believe me even though the price is similar, the cars are not :D Unfortunately here we don't get that kind of deals. The "lemon" cars are retailed for almost the same price as the new ones up to even 20 000 miles.
Auto start/stop is the dumbest gimmick in decades added to cars. We're literally trading minuscule fuel economy improvement for wear and tear on the starter, battery, and the engine; such a win.
@@Lawdachris They go hand-in-hand, do they not? Auto OEMs tout and market the fuel savings in their campaigns, hardly any go for environmental reasons because modern vehicles are ULEV, PZEV, or ZEV emission compliant (read: Z=zero). The US is a poor market for this unless you're one of the unlucky few that live in the likes of NYC, LA., Chicago, etc. Food for thought: starters for a start/stop vehicle are unconventional, they have to be more robust and geared for higher torque output (you're paying much more for this). Also, batteries have a limited cycle count before they no longer transfer necessary amperage to properly perform. Yes we have excellent recycling programs, but you're definitely not getting 6-8 years out of batteries any longer.
In the UK at least, the yearly tax you pay on a vehicle depends on it's age and emissions. The cars with start/stop perform better in the emissions tests as they are spitting out less emissions over a standard commute. I hate it, it's horrible when driving at ~5mph which tends to be the threshold for cutting off if the conditions are right. Luckilly it can be disabled, but it is still annoying if you forget about it as it enables itself everytime you start the car properly.
I recently had a 2018 rental vehicle and besides being slightly biased toward another brand was overall pleased with the packaging. However auto start/stop was a deal breaker for me as it is extremely annoying if you aren’t used to it. Hybrids seem to me like the best compromise since you get full if not enhanced power off the line without the weird interrupt when you want to sprint ahead of traffic from a stand still.
The engine start stop is a thing that helps save on fuel it’s something that makes it so the engine isn’t useing fuel at the light like most other cars without that feature
Thats funny that you say that, because about a month ago, when I found this guy, I said he reminds me of a knock off Doug Demero, but I guess that't not a bad thing, Doug has come up quick through youtube. They both have a lot of great info, and every time I watch either of them I feel like I learn something.
I agree, there are always 3 sides to every Lemon story, the owners side, the dealers side, and the truth. In regards to a comment made about the cost of future repairs, he is a youtuber with plenty of money and know how. He will be fine, and I guarantee that he is still going to save money, in terms of having it fixed properly, or fixing it properly himself.
I think you got an incredible deal. That is the best way in my opinion to get a brand new car. I will probably never buy brand new. Thanks for this video. I'm definitely going to look at lemon cars in the future when I'm ready to purchase again. That is definitely a nice car with the vented seats, too! Especially living in Florida (Cocoa Beach here).
as a ford mechanic the tech did not find any loose pins or exposed wires it is just the best way to get paid by ford motor company for warranty repairs because there is no parts there is no prior approval and there is not proof that you did or did not do a repair
Your wife has the voice of an angel.
First of all they dont just replace cats for no reason. There are guidelines for replacements and my guess is that either the car has some type of fuel issue or excessive blowby.
@Esteban Rodriquez he's making a joke about the wife talking
If you are interested in anything else from Covington Ford, I can swing by and take pics of something that interests you.
I hate you Samcrap your videos are a piece of crap!! You should stop you tube I fricken hate you!!😡
Nooo
Sam owns a Audi rs7 and says he's always wanted a Ford Escape. 🤣 wtf?
nigel ruffin lmao right
The definition of humble
Stay humble and blessed Sir
No lie the escapes EcoBoost is fun
Some times it’s not about the price of the car
i loved the conversation between sam and his "wife"
I'd like to know what his Mrs thought about that one. I'd bet he got a slap...
sounds just like my wife
It's all about your approach in context of the negotiations with the significant other
Sams going to be in soo much trouble over that 'impression' of the wife !!......Probably still on the 'naughty step' , right now !!... lol.
Jayen4 I don't think so... In the one or two videos that she has been in she seems really cool and a car girl herself
I just retired after 25 yrs as the director of Finance from a Ford dealership and we had some lemon law cars I wouldnt give to anyone. Thats how bad they were. However though, there are some situations that it makes sense to buy a car and take a chance on it. I totally agree with you that if the previous owner was elderly and most ( not all ) senior citizens dont like or understand the new tech on these cars and I totally agree that the stop/start feature could easily have contributed to this case
I would love to know if you have had any issues on this car since u got it ..... I am a new subscriber and love what you do !!
I know, old comment and all. But wanted to put few cents on it.
Its not just elderly who hates start-stop with passion. Im 27 and I would NEVER buy start-stop car. XD
Arunix .... Why not??
My new car has stop start & when I start the engine I just switch it off🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
The car is awesome, if I insisted on no stop start, I couldn’t have bought it..
@@MC-nb6jx everyone has preferences, I personally dont like the idea of it,nwith some cars it feels less secure too if you dont even have to press anything to unlock it
@@flynna .... Sorry I thought we we're discussing Stop/Start systems, not Key-less Entry🤷♂️
the car has an actual issue. engine shuts off mid drive and won't start again.
he took it to Ford 3 times or so and can't be fixed. I wouldn't buy a lemon.. you need a lawyer in most states to get a car lemon'd so it's not like it's easy to lemon law it
U guys have a 37 dollars flight? In canada the booking fee is more than that.
i flew from sweden to poland for 20 euros :)
I flew from Los Angeles to London for. $60
Lol booking fee
I live in the United States and I don't know how he did that. Cheapest flights I can ever find are like $200/person. I must be looking on the wrong websites?
Inferno_Spud use budget airlines. Spirit, Southwest etc
Alright now you go back and get that GT350!
She needs a Shelby!
David Anderson I just bought a used 17 gt350 yesterday.. same color but with a few more options... price was $9000k more.. it only had 7k miles... I am kinda kicking myself but then I go in my garage, start it up and I’m ok again... wait... how much did I just pay!?!?!?!(Back to the garage)
6:38 Doug asked why this Dealer has so many lemons?? 🤔
Salesman told him: Because we own a lemonade stand !!
And by that he meant, "we own a Ford dealership." (Sorry Ford)
AOGDC10 🤦🏻♂️😂🤣
...got any grapes?
Owned by Jr garage
Fix Or Repair Daily at it's finest 😂
I thought he was getting a gt350
Click bait boyo get used to it
As someone who had Ford buy a lemon back, I have to give you a reality check here.
It is NOT easy to get a manufacturer to buy a car back. They take a huge loss and will do everything in their power to convince you to keep the car. Many people even get attorneys to force the buyback (I'm not an attorney but I have been an expert witness in court, so I can hold my own.)
The point here is that Ford would NEVER buy back this car unless there was something seriously wrong with it. They would never replace the catalyst TWICE and fix electrical problems unless there was actually a legitimate issue. Also warning lights don't just show up at random; something makes them turn on.
The car I made Ford buy back had the transmission serviced once and totally replaced twice. I asked them to give me a new car, but they refused even though I told them that if they didn't, I would file a lemon law claim. They also told me that almost nobody gets cars bought back and it's their policy to keep fixing a car until it's fixed no matter how many times they try!
Finally, at the hearing, they offered to replace my car, which had 17,000 miles at that point, with a brand new one. I told them that it was too late; if they did that at the dealer 4 months earlier, when I clearly showed all my documentation proving my car was a lemon, I would have accepted, but to offer this at the lemon law hearing was downright offensive.
I also watched Paul K's UA-cam video a few months ago when he explained his saga getting rid of his Dodge Challenger Hellcat lemon, and you can see what a difficult process it was - this is the case for EVERYONE!
All of this should demonstrate that this was NOT a car that was returned because a person didn't understand the engine autostart/stop and just wasn't happy with the car. Even if the salespeople never mentioned it, the first time a person would bring it in for service, they would explain that it's how the car works and NOT fix wiring issues or replace a catalyst!
A car will be steeply discounted for a reason. Whether it's from accident damage, excessively high mileage, or because it was a lemon, the discount reflects the issues with the car.
You are not going to get a nearly new car for over 50% off because it's perfect and the original owner didn't like it. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
Some times things aren’t too good to be true. Sometimes people just don’t want something so they pretty much give it away (not talking about cars though).
Maybe the car wasn’t worth it at full price but with 50% or more off it sort of compensates for the issue. I’m my opinion.
Mikem 2k I had a 2018 Kia I have to go tomorrow to sign papers for buyback they agreed to buy the car back
Mikem 2k my Kia has 8 starters replaced a computer system fuse box was replaced and head lights brake lights and windows and dash light and instrument cluster would randomly still stop while driving it also did it at night
What else were you compensated for if you dont mind me asking.?
I think 80% of the inventory of all Ford dealerships are lemons xD
That's a weird way to spell GM lol
Chthonian121 ... Nah... 99.99% are lemons😉😉
You know what ford stands for right.
Fix It Again Tony
@@TurkeyCreekjackjohnson_ that’s fiat idiot
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson all American cars are basically worse shitter made fiats a with no thoughts given to design and with possibly the worst build quality ever, especially car interiors lol 😂 ohhh my god they look horrendous
Loved this episode. The call with the wife made me 😂. Keep up the good work
Can we consider sam a "hoarder" now?
Next it'll be tractors...
He isn't Hoovie yet
Norm D then we can call him ChuckE
He's got NOTHIN on hoovie lol
@@bastaudio lol
Am I the only one who thought that the salesman was Huell from Breaking Bad?
I thought the same thing 😂😂
Huell had a no mistaking cone head.
Péter Bálint wasn’t Huell the guy who was laying on a stack of dollars with a Bill Burr in breaking bad?
@@jamespn Yeah
Reasonably
Do not buy Lemon Cars unless you're really informed. Buybacks happened because the manufacture could not fix the issue 100% and it's been attempted several times. Very few get buy getting their vehicle bought back because of being lied to about a packages etc. So, buying one of these you will definitely be using the warranty and also some documents are not always provided to the consumer. Consider bad electrical -something that would have to be replaced. or extreme cases of complete engine replacement.
That couldnt be further from the truth... since dealerships are independently owned and not by the manufacturer, the service advisors just want to make a quick dollar and since it is under warranty they take a cost cut. The longer it takes for a repair,
The lower their commission is because they are stuck on one customer. In all of the cases i have seen a buyback could have been avoided if they would have involved the engineers the second time it came in. Other than that if the vehicle has been out of service for 30 days they qualify for lemon law, and most of the time the reason it is out of service is because the parts supplier didnt build the part fast enough
I really thought this was Adam Sandler making a car video 😂😂
He is the brother.
First Chickens, then Bananas, now Lemons?!?
JohnStax He's assembling a Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man gallery. Bring on the cherries and Galaxians! ;) lol
Lol
Don’t forget the microwave
never forget the cows...
Ijnat ...or the pizza. :)
Sam.... can’t believe out of all places in the world you found yourself at my local ford!
iiLoveeHaterss
Please can you tell me where was that dealer located?
bessem mabrouk of course. If you search Covington Ford on google it’s located in Covington, GA, about 45 minutes East of Atlanta, GA. Like Sam said, they have a bunch of great deals on the lemons, if you’re willing to take the chance!
iiLoveeHaterss
Thanks
I’ll check them out
I am going to check it. I live just down the road
wow I drive past there everyday, I wonder if they'll let me test drive one of those GT-350s haha
I had a car bought back by the manufacturer as a lemon once. My car kept having turbo related issues where the wastegate would get stuck open. It turns out that the dealership was using the wrong oil for the 5000 mile service intervals. We ended up getting another vehicle from the same manufacturer, which started having a repeated issue at around 50K miles. I traded that car in for another manufacturer vehicle and have had that car for 16 years now. Personally I would never buy a lemon car, but you may be lucky.
You're at a Ford dealer.. No need to explain why they have so many lemons :)
I work at a GM dealership and we have a whole lot off site for auction/online sales that is all lemon cars and it matches our current inventory if not beats it. Mainly anything to do with a GM truck chassis due to their terrible vibration issues.
They're GM vehicle's, they fall under the same category. They didn't go bankrupt for no reason.
what's sad is its not just Ford's it's happening to all brands flaws in mass manufacturing ...
kia/hyndai probably have 3x as many.. and still no one would want them
Snowboss PA Hyundai and Kia’s reliability have far exceeded that of Ford and GMs.
i bought the gray focus rs in this video. pretty much this video sold me on it. no issues so far.
Nice what was msrp, what were they asking and what did you pay?
Samuel Weber $1
Does it still have no issues?
Where are you guys buying I’m looking. Please
He’s one of those guys who lies to complete strangers on the internet so he can get attention and look cool.
Dude, that’s a steal. And a no-brainer purchase over an Escape.
It's a rebadge escape...
Great deal Sam. What a steal.
Love the Lincoln lawyer reference 😁
What a Stealership. There was a case of stealing here. But Sam didn't do the stealing.
Boy, the front of those Lincoln's are an acquired taste, what were they thinking.
Somebody was drunk at Ford. On home brew booze that makes you go blind.
looks like the rest of the modern cars. not unique to me
Look at new Lexus's, talk about ugly.
brent vance Unlike Lincoln’s though, “ugly Lexuses” actually sell
The same designers that came up with the Edsel.
I am 74 years old and I am sure all of our daddys' told us "You get what you pay for." never forget that. Learned it as a young age and has been good advice all my life!
Thanks
Bought an 06 Buick lucerne from an arizona snowbird who sold it up here in MN for 6k.Only 75k miles, no rust, previous owner has replaced alternator, battery, intake manifold gasket, water pump and radiator.However previous owner never changed coolant until about 2019 which in combination with poor materials for intake manifold gasket and "coolant elbows" contributed to that issue.Only myself had a minor issue with a MAF sensor, otherwise been a great car.I was wary due to its history of total repairs (this is just a summary) but part of what made me buy it is that it was NOT the SAME issue repeatedly.Also since its 14 years old there is plenty of info available to consumers and Buick master technicians.
Have had it about 9 months, taken on several trips.Plenty of features and life left in this Buick.
Those wheels on the white RS at around 4:40 look like the MK2 Focus RS wheels. The RS we didn't get in the U.S.
Also similar to the mk1 ST170 focus (svt in the usa) you didn't get apart from not being 4stud.
Those wheels are painted silver on the European market mk2 rs if they had the logo on the centre and the rs emblem in the squares
They would look more oem
Qam2 Mb the last of the mk2 rs sold in england were offered with white wheels but you're right with the majority being silver.
BoostedDonuts they are
If it was a buyback because it repeatedly could not be fixed, remind us of why you think it got really fixed this time around? And what happens if it still has those problems?
Auto-stop-start systems usually can be disabled, check the setup options.
Most of those cars still have warranty. For someone like samcrac that can be patient with a car that's constantly being repaired (for free) it could work out.
Would be a bad choice for someone who only has one car that they commute to work in.
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@@shepd3 lemon cars get the title branded and the warranty is voided
Cliff Hartle Clearly you’re a dumbass. The guy states exactly what the warranty is.... how about actually watching a video instead of typing bullshit
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It woke you up 2 times on the way home? Sam please drive carefully.
Yeah, I was a bit shocked. Pull over Sam!
Hes fine, its easy to trick the computer into thinking you are tired.
@@RetroCheater81 Oh, I didnt know how easy it is. Thanks!
Turkish ??
Yeah the computer overestimates how tired someone actually is
I've never seen I guy so happy to buy an unfixable problem
I just bought a car with a rebuilt title and I couldn’t be more happy! It looks like it just came from the factory and I got a really great price for it, I studied this channel for a long time before buying! 2005 Mustang GT Premium
I’m all for features that save gas, or reduce emissions, but I feel like “start stop technology“ is just a cheap cop out, it saves very little fuel, and puts unnecessary wear on the starter system. If cars are going to use a start stop system they need a more robust power reserve to allow power steering and other features to remain operational. Riding with a friend in their new impala over the winter, the start stop was only able to shut the engine off for a few second before the battery drain from the heat caused it to fire back up again. And the shutter when it starts is annoying and makes the car feel cheap. I drive a hybrid so it’s considerably different, but a conventional car should not cut off at a light.
In the right driving environment-urban environments with a lot of horrible traffic-start stop can save a lot of gas. A badly implemented system can be obnoxious but a well done system has beefed up components that make it work right.
The starter is specially built for the stop start system. It's made to do it.
There should be a button to turn it off like traction control.
Agreed it's not for everyone and there should be an option to disable it. In some instances it can use more fuel, and does cause more wear to the engine itself, not the starter as it's designed for the job. Fact is though, the engine is still going to complete more revolutions with zero/low oil pressure than an equivalent model without the feature.
A lot of cars you can turn it off. Sometimes you have to go into a menu.
So... before everyone thinks you truley saved $20,000k, private party value on kbb(more than any dealership would consider) in perfect condition .. that SUV is worth between $26k-28k..non lemon.. so, you realistically only saved between $3k-$5k... and bought a lemon car........you didnt save $20,000.... besides, lincolns for some reason dont hold their value and, you would be unwise to purchase one new. Great video and an 'alright' deal
What KBB are you looking at? Blue Book is 34-36k for that 2017 with same mileage, trim, color...
So it's more like half his quote of 10k, not 20k, but still...
Go be an investment banker and quit with you and people like constantly talking about holding value so you can resale at some point and not lose much. You can always buy a belly button, me too Honda, Mazda or Toyota, drive a boring car and have resale because most people will overpay for perceived value.
Yeah, so many people are running out there buying a brand new car and selling it at a 1,000 miles to take a 15k-20k loss. Makes perfect sense
Dont forget that we never see any documentation. We only known what he is telling us.
Yeah you forgot to include the mileage, this is under 1k miles which brings the price to around 40k
Oh sam... just you wait til she sees this video! 😂😂
My dad got a fully loaded ecoboost for just a bit over 20k, I helped him find it and boi is it a great car
I bought my '15 MKC CPO Dec 15. It's had so many issues. Multiple battery failures. Rear tire well flooding when rains. Leaking from front windshield. A trunk module that repeatedly locked when the car was off till it failed and needed replacement. Transmission lurching. It has a 100k CPO warranty and it's comfortable. Those are the only reasons why I keep it. I chalked up these issues to 1st year model growing pains.
I still managed to get my best friend to buy one brand new. A 2017 Reserve in white. A 4yr 50k warranty and anytime you need service or repair, Lincoln will come to your house or work and give you another Lincoln to drive and take your car for whatever it needs. All for free. In or out of warranty. And whether it was new or used. Just has to be a 17 or newer. I sold it on it being comfortable, luxurious and never have to go to a dealer again.
You got an amazing deal indeed! And I thought I did good buying one 7k less than it was worth. Wow!!
How many cars do Samcrac Tavarish and Hoovie have combined?
Too many, but they are great to watch, love all the channels.
35 lol
Honestly half of them are Hoovies
the rebuilt/hoopties club
@@gsheverything_2716 hoovie owns over 30
Might just be a trick of the light but that front bumper does not colour match the wing @ 7:15
Great buy by the way 👍👍👍
I see it as well
I see it too. It’s not the angle because I see it when he walks around. Wonder what the story with that is.
Why does your wife sound like the swedish chef.
@7:52 Creepy hand in the back freaked me out. lol
That salesman has someone up his ass.💨
Couldn't stop watching the hand!
Where is your Cup?
@@AdamosDad lol
@@theworldoverheavan560 ✋
“Can I get a number 9...” the dealership guy sound like big smoke
He reminded me of Smokey from the movie Friday
The big Lincolns are typically bought by retirees. The Ford dealers/salesmen are notorious for not explaining major new driving experiences as car basics change. The PowerShift automatic was a case in point. No explanation to any buyer that this was not a hydromatic, but was instead a automatic electric clutch car. It will not hold a hill forever while you put your foot from brake to gas, you slip back (scary for Secretary Jane who bashes the car behind her). It was designed for Europeans so you're supposed to put your foot in it hard like an Italian tuneup. Secretary Jane putters about in stop and go traffic. Same thing happened in 1992 when brake depress was required to shift from Park into any gear. No explanation by the salesman. They don't want to talk about it because they might scare off the sale. Pretend cars are the same as 1970, forever.
Sounds like the exact thing happened with this autostop. Car stops, driver confused, driver turns key off and restarts car, driver assumes car is defective.
they r still too expensive
The funny thing about this is your not entirely wrong many cases and went mini dealership a lot of features are not explained or shown thoroughly one of the ways I mean a lot of my half deals with some of the sales people was in fact showing the features after the sale if anyone had questions or the sales people are not bothered it they would just asked me hey do you mind showing off these features are going around
To be fair, the auto stop-start is stupidly designed on this car. The power steering should never cut out while you are sitting at the light. Assuming that's working as intended, that makes no sense.
I think it is a great deal, I never even knew that a "lemon law" existed, I don't think we have that here in Canada. And indeed we do not have that, just looked it up. I do recall buying a brand new vehicle and at 800 km (~550 miles) I was back in the shop getting new rotors and calipers, something with it had been sitting for a while, yada-yadah-yah. At 2600 I had issues with the brakes again and that is when I basically told them that I would not want the car anymore if this kept going. I mean, come on, two sets of brake repairs, thank god it was the warranty. After this it never had a problem again and I drove close to 200,000 km with it. Huh.... lemon law.... we need that here.
Fraud. Very easy to lemon out a car that you do not want.
Yes, but if car doesnt pass inspection in x days after you buy it. You can return it in Canada. So that's better than our lemon law.
Ya Canada doesn’t have a law like the lemon law here in the us
@@BillMan2002 what kind of inspection? I mean I have no idea what qualifies as a lemon in US but being in a dealership sometimes the complaints I hear is ridiculous.
Canada is a terrible place.
Next Video, My Lincon keeps stalling out.................
that engine start/stop feature that kills the power steering seems ridiculous. I can easily see how someone that didn't know about it would think something is wrong with the car.
You can usually turn off the start/stop option in most vehicles. You just have to go into the settings in the dash menu.
Someone came into my dealership saying the same thing! Car keeps stalling when stopping! It was the auto start stop. They didn't know about it 😂
Next video: Why I still need a truck to haul around car parts...
I work at a ford dealer and I'm not surprised it was lemon lawed. Lincoln customers have such a high standards and complain about the tiniest issues. And if we can't duplicate the issue described, we can't replace anything. So not really surprised! Good purchase! They are very nice cars
Loved how on the test drive you can see a hand try to cover the Chik Fil A logo on a cup in the rear seat cup holder!!! No free plug for Chic Fil A?? haha
When life gives you lemons!
MirandaLove make lemonade
You reap the fruits!
Interesting concept... now my local BMW dealer must have some LEMONS for sale?!!
Yup, BMW is one of the few companies that sell new lemons.
One might argue they're all lemons ;-)
When life gives you lemons... open a BMW dealership.
All BMWs are lemons
I wouldnt spend my money on a bmw, i hear the blinker fluid pump seems to always malfunction
Engine start/stop is bad for vehicles overall, specially for all-gas vehicles. Thanks for the lemon loophole.
Do you think I would be able to find a SRT Hellcat lemon buy back
I bought my car from the same dealer. My 2014 Ford Fiesta Titanium was branded a buyback, got it at 9k miles. Now has 72k and it's doing fantastic. It's been in the shop for the same issue numerous times, but it's finally fixed.
I think you hit the nail right on the head with the auto start stop that guy just didn't like it and I bet you they bought it back to keep a long term customer happy
One thing for sure - for as long as you own that MKc you'll be plagued by that hideous grill.
I like the rear end but that grill is so bad it's completely ruined the cars look for me
blitzbbffl I wonder if there's some decent aftermarket options.
I think they just wanted to give the car back cuz they didnt want it
Steve Lehto? Is that you?
Cuz it’s a Ford.
So they bought a car they didnt want......my plenty of since
"...they found some loose wires." I bought a Chevy Prizm new back in the day. The throttle would sometimes stick after I floored it. The dealer replaced most of the throttle linkage under warranty. When it happened again after the warranty expired, they said just to remove the after-market floor mats which would 'catch' the throttle pedal. That solved the problem permanently. Maybe everything was ok and your dealership tried whatever to fix "the stalling" because the manufacturer was picking up the tab.
Kick ass deal. Thank you for opening my eyes that these were even an option. My husband and I watched this while eating our favorite #9 Jersey Mike's!
Husband said, "wow! That was a really good video. Super informative".
I hope it's all well and the car goes strong for miles to come. Cheers to you and your wife and her new car. (Haha {her} new car)
be careful with lemon cars, almost all of them aren't like this, most exist because there's a problem hindering functionality, and the manufacture cannot find the cause, so if you go in thinking you'll find a good deal, you almost always end up paying 10-20k for something that doesn't work, so unless you're extremely knowledgeable with car you're interested, including all of mechanical and electrical systems, and understand how to repair the problems that not even the manufacturer could fix, it's just not advised.
Samcrac the one notification I got a click on immediately
IDK, I always save the best for last.
His "wife" sounds like Mr. Bill from the old SNL days. 😂
For a second I thought you were hoovies garage
That whole “Lincoln Lawyer Lemon Lincoln” bit earned you a new Subscriber! Also Congratulations on the new car! I’m going to go check out your other videos
"I did what any rational guy would do, I called my wife for approval" Lololol
🤣 hope you don't need the Lincoln lawyer to lemon out your already lemoned Lincoln!
What if your Lincoln lawyer is a lemon?
GT350's notorious for using oil. You got a smokin deal.
45$k for this Lincoln seems so overpriced to me.
When the very first ford escape came out i went to a dealer to check it out. Walked through the lit and noticed very fast how most of them were rushed through production to meet whatever deadline was established for launching the product. Missing parts, wyper blades, etc. The most intriguing was one having V6 badges all around but a 4-cyl motor under the hood.
I bought a brand new 2003 Escape V6 AWD , a car in it's 2nd year of production. I HATED it pretty much the first week I owned it, but stuck with it for six months until I just couldn't anymore. It's the only car I've ever owned that made me feel emasculated which is crazy of course - it was black, not bright pink, but anyway, yeah I just didn't like the fucker. So, no doubt I lost thousands, but I ended up buying a used wholesale (high miles) Expedition I drove for a year then bought the new body style (at the time) 2004 F150 Lariat in black/black leather and I was fine after that. Then many more after THAT, but yeah that was my Escape experience...
I love how you snuck that little commercial in there...I admit...it worked. Never heard of them, so I checked it out. Too funny.
Something is weird about that dealer. You look at that RS and it lists for 25.9 but what you click on the car for pictures and details the price changes to 33.9. lol Something isnt right here.
Loving the videos keep up the good work
It doesn't matter how luxurious the car is if it doesn't run.
You got a great deal. If you have any issues, the warranty plus your own knowledge of cars will make it easy to get it sorted by the manufacturer.
he posted a video where it broke down 3 times randomly and wouldn't start and he thought it was the battery and it's still broken and took it to Ford and they can't fix it either lol
moral of the story: don't buy lemon unless you want to gamble
Although not all lemon cars are Lincolns, all Lincolns are lemon cars.
Good luck with this rebadged Escape, sir.
Me when seeing mkc's
I don’t think I’d of touched that car
"I'd have"
Man.. You have a Audi RS7, what else do you need?
Like he stated, only so many parts fit in a hatchback Audi. Review the first Audi video to see what actually fits since he basically shows you.
Of course I know that. But f**k that. If I had a RS7, I would quit everything that requires to fit many/large things.
A broken Audi rs7*
How did you walk around that car lot without a salesman coming up to you
Greg Stolte you just tell them that your not interested in buying and they leave you alone lol
You rock love your channel and as I’m watching during the holiday season you got a beauty of a XMass gift.
A long time Ford owner and Technician . Ford has had problems with low bid wire harnesses that cause false codes to appear. The Focus and Escape has had recalls already.
You do your research. You really are wise and an expert in car buying. People should pay you to shop for them. I now know ways to shop thanks to you. Congrats on the new car. Outstanding video.
Are you serious ? He is a fucking idiot and you are a moron.
I had a friend that bought a used Cadillac. It had been bought back three times before she bought it. She loved it and had no issues. I had access to GMs repair history, but didn't dare tell her anything.
...and what was that history like...?
Been 4 months, hows the Cadillac? Is it even still running?
at least share the story here
It woke you up 2 times on the way home?
Yeah honestly lost some respect for Samcrac there.
@@Darkfire309 how?
Because that's insanely irresponsible driving, driving when you're that tired is equally dangerous as drunk driving. A high school classmate of mine and an entire family died in a head on collision because one of them fell asleep while driving and drove into the other lane on a two lane mountain road. If you're falling asleep even once pull the hell over and take a nap and get a coffee.
Thats what she said?
He could have literally killed people... twice
You got a great deal, the previous owner didn't give this car a chance, and I totally agree with you, he didn't like auto-- stop feature.
Awesome deal Sam ! I've got a Ford Focus 1.0 Ecoboost that I bought brand new in Bulgaria for about 19 000 USD and believe me even though the price is similar, the cars are not :D Unfortunately here we don't get that kind of deals. The "lemon" cars are retailed for almost the same price as the new ones up to even 20 000 miles.
“Special off-road wheels”
Auto start/stop is the dumbest gimmick in decades added to cars. We're literally trading minuscule fuel economy improvement for wear and tear on the starter, battery, and the engine; such a win.
It's not to save on fuel, it's to reduce emissions when sitting in traffic.
@@Lawdachris
They go hand-in-hand, do they not? Auto OEMs tout and market the fuel savings in their campaigns, hardly any go for environmental reasons because modern vehicles are ULEV, PZEV, or ZEV emission compliant (read: Z=zero). The US is a poor market for this unless you're one of the unlucky few that live in the likes of NYC, LA., Chicago, etc.
Food for thought: starters for a start/stop vehicle are unconventional, they have to be more robust and geared for higher torque output (you're paying much more for this). Also, batteries have a limited cycle count before they no longer transfer necessary amperage to properly perform. Yes we have excellent recycling programs, but you're definitely not getting 6-8 years out of batteries any longer.
In the UK at least, the yearly tax you pay on a vehicle depends on it's age and emissions. The cars with start/stop perform better in the emissions tests as they are spitting out less emissions over a standard commute. I hate it, it's horrible when driving at ~5mph which tends to be the threshold for cutting off if the conditions are right. Luckilly it can be disabled, but it is still annoying if you forget about it as it enables itself everytime you start the car properly.
Matt I Always switch my off when l start the car ,that is most stupid thing they invented .
You do realize you can turn if off right?? Also they put better starters to compensate for wear. I turn mine off right when I get in..... pretty easy.
Lmaoooo amazing skit in the amazing with your wife 😂
I recently had a 2018 rental vehicle and besides being slightly biased toward another brand was overall pleased with the packaging. However auto start/stop was a deal breaker for me as it is extremely annoying if you aren’t used to it. Hybrids seem to me like the best compromise since you get full if not enhanced power off the line without the weird interrupt when you want to sprint ahead of traffic from a stand still.
Love your honesty. I really enjoy these Vids.
Tried that with my wife on a new computer. Didn't work out so well.
There is no bargain when it's a Ford.
I like the Chikfila cup in the backseat! 🤣
The engine start stop is a thing that helps save on fuel it’s something that makes it so the engine isn’t useing fuel at the light like most other cars without that feature
Lmao bro keep the sense of humor in the beginnings it’s funny and cool👍🏽
Are you related to Doug demero ??????
exactly what i was thinking
They are both related to Jay Leno.
Thats funny that you say that, because about a month ago, when I found this guy, I said he reminds me of a knock off Doug Demero, but I guess that't not a bad thing, Doug has come up quick through youtube. They both have a lot of great info, and every time I watch either of them I feel like I learn something.
@@MrJking065 lol
I'll bet the owner has a different story to tell.
I agree, there are always 3 sides to every Lemon story, the owners side, the dealers side, and the truth. In regards to a comment made about the cost of future repairs, he is a youtuber with plenty of money and know how. He will be fine, and I guarantee that he is still going to save money, in terms of having it fixed properly, or fixing it properly himself.
Nice video , came for the rs7 , but this is nice 👍🏼
I think you got an incredible deal. That is the best way in my opinion to get a brand new car. I will probably never buy brand new. Thanks for this video. I'm definitely going to look at lemon cars in the future when I'm ready to purchase again. That is definitely a nice car with the vented seats, too! Especially living in Florida (Cocoa Beach here).
Samcrac lookin to become the fourth horseman of the hoardpocalypse, along with Rich rebuilds, Hoovie and Tavarish
You stole this. What lot was this? I may be interested as well.
Wow they do have some cheap cars....
Can you not read
Hello Auto Auction Rebuilds
The name and even the phone number was on the faux license plate, the building wall, the stickers, ... sheesh.
I’ve bought my escape from them. I love them! Great people!!!
100000% the previous owner had no clue about the auto start stop.
Does auto tempest have motorcycles? You should do a motorcycle build
AutoTempest doesn't, but our other site, SearchTempest.com does. It searches eBay, Craigslist, and Oodle so far, and we'll be adding Cycletrader soon.
as a ford mechanic the tech did not find any loose pins or exposed wires it is just the best way to get paid by ford motor company for warranty repairs because there is no parts there is no prior approval and there is not proof that you did or did not do a repair
Too risky of a car history to take a chance on buying it in my opinion. Great video and I love the channel.