Paul not just Tyrion. I loved reading the chapters with the hound, Jaime and even Cersei. Like how Cersei would treat Pycelle, lol. N that scene when the hound gives an “I O U” letter of 10000 dragons to that merchant as a payment of 20 dragons and then he says he’ll be back for the rest so don’t go spending it all. Lolllol
@@h4hashir that shit was hysterical. They really fucked him over with that. Fucking bastard brotherhood cunts. LMAO I swear to god I was so pissed for him. Then they didnt even redeem themselves by Falling in with the B.S lady stoneheart.
He actually really reminds me of an English teacher I had. They both look almost exactly the same with the same hair, same body build, and same speech rhythm and accent.
Do you expect the NK to "have his reasons" in the future books? My few of the NK is that he isn't like a person - he is like a grenade that blew up in everyone's face.
@@yvesgomes Well, we don't even know if the Night King is a character in the books. That being said, it is implied that the Others have some degree of personality, and if they have personality, they'll have motivations.
I really liked that exercise example on trying to make character speeches sound different in order to identity them through their archetypes. Everybody sounds differently so of course there's going to be some differences in their speech to distinguish their personality.
SkyGamerUK he’s referring to the books, and of course there’s going to be some commonality from speeches from the way how people speak since personality traits are bound to be common from mannerisms. And I don’t know how you couldn’t tell the difference from Jon and Tyrion’s dialogue since Tyrion is consistently talking about wine, women, or has some smart ass remark while Jon is constantly trying his best to be humble and friends with people in the friendly respectful way.
@@captainironbat251 It's hard to pinpoint it. I also think it's even harder on Portuguese, where the formal language is more drastically different than the informal one. Writing is usually formal. It is tempting to show off vocabulary with formal dialog. My impression is that switching from indirect (likely formal) to direct discourse (informal) requires a lot of discipline.
400 for you sir or mam. It was half the comment half the draw of completion. Fuck it, my OCD demanded it, but your comment is ok, is what I am trying to say. Were all human can we at least meet somewhere around there?
think there are many writers more well spoken than GRRM, but hardly any of them are capable of giving real practical writing advice like he does here. Insight on what's needed, yes. But not really anything on how to apply that insight. That sets him apart. "GRRM feels like a sociable nerd" is really spot on.
@@alexanderfortier5488 I suppose I should write/say IMO or 'as perceived by me' before writing/saying anything about a collective. It did drive a mental discussion, but arguing against your own bias contradicts everything I believe in. :D
Yeah, his dialogue makes his characters sound like they're witty and talk to people a lot, most writers have to create special dialogue just so their characters make a little bit of sense.
If you have a great story you just have to work at it and it will take shape, it morphs at the same time and takes detours and you suddenly discover more about your own story. I studied literature at university but have never tried to write an actual novel...but I've had a story in my mind which I really really like. I believe you shouldn't try and please others, write it for yourself.
@@dw3134 Not easy with a full time job and life, this summer I'm going to dedicate all my time to it, I will inbox you the idea if you are interested lol
I have tons of story ideas and its easy for me to come up chars and worlds. I write them down but I just dont have the proper education when it comes to grammar and my vocabulary is small. I don't have a job right now and its stressing me out so I cant bring myself to write or do anything productive.
@@Drake00000010 Honestly I think vocabulary and grammar is overrated when it comes to fiction. Novel writing is all about creating emotion through characters and the art of story telling. Reading is the key, read and read and read and you will be inspired. Good luck with the job hunting, do what you love and everything else will fall into place, I've lived abroad for the past 3 years and that was the best thing I did, sometimes you just got to take risks. A change of scenery too!
My debut novel will soon be published, and I owe some thanks to George. Not only for his wonderful books, but also for the advice he gave me back in 2015.
GRRM's three steps to success: 1) Toil in obscurity for decades. 2) Become the most famous writer in the world. 3) Immediately quit writing and become a professional interviewee.
He's purposefully doing interviews until he dies so whoever completes A Song of Ice & Fire posthumously takes all the heat for the inevitable anti-climax, while GRRM is laughing from the grave.
@frootjooce You can be paid for your work and still be obscure. There are so many books, games, movies, etc out there, it's impossible for all of them to enter the main stream.
As a writer I agree completely. Getting too wrapped up into compartmentalizing genres really shortchanges the ability to broaden the scope of storytelling.
I respect George RR Martin I have nothing too hate about him because people who write bad things about him are just low life’s but I am taking he’s advice.
The great thing about writing and books in general is its a type of story telling medium that has no limitations. Unlike live action tv shows, and even animation to an extent. Books have no restrictions what so ever and you can only go as far your imagination desires for how ever long you want to write. Its a shame that many fantasy authors works that are brough to life on screen are never adapted to the extent of what the writer himself invisions but its still nice to see a live action that chronicles the world, the setting and characters you created as a writer.
It's a good point he makes about genre. Technically, science fiction is not a genre, it's a setting and narrative form. Fantasy is the same, a setting form that incorporates real genres like action, love etc. Horror is the only real, technical genre there.
LOL Genre is not real. It never was. Did Homer write action? Did Dante write horror? Its a modern thing by corporations to sell stuff most great writers don't care - as he says. A story is a story.
And adapted his unadaptable work, turned it into a cultural phenomenon, and the most popular TV show of all time. Get off the "bad writing" bandwagon. You wouldn't last a morning in a writer's room and the HBO team are better at what they do than you'll ever be at anything.
@@davemccombs That's quite the logical fallacy I don't need to be a helicopter pilot to know that a helicopter is not suppose to be lodged in a tree Edit: I should perhaps clarify; what D&D did was absolutely monumental and I'll be forever grateful for the first 6 seasons of incredible television and the tremendous amount of effort in the latest 2 thanks to these two. It's upsetting that season 8 turned out the way it did and because of that, my butt is firmly planted on this bandwagon.
D&D were fine while they accepted their own limitations _ i.e. when they had the books to lean on and used other writers a lot. Once they were past the books, the cracks started to show. Once they started thinking *they* were great writers and stopped using others much, wheels started to fall off the wagon. And once they started smelling awards, sacrificing plot logic to spectacle, + stopped giving a s$#$, Season 8's plot went to hell. Anyone who watches individual Thrones clips on UA-cam can tell you: the acting + camera work stayed great to the end. Literally the only flaw was having D&D in charge. By the end, they were so arrogant they didn't even care what *HBO* thought _ never mind the fans. If HBO (+ GRRM) had had their way, there would have been enough episodes and time to put flesh on the leaky creaky S8 plot. Putting it another way _ if HBO had told D&D to fk off to Star Wars *BEFORE* Season 8, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
And don't start nothing new until you do or burn it. Bill Collins don't start any new work until his current work is done, and will sit at his desk for as long as it takes to get the first draft done. I find that his approach is best. Stephen king also doesn't start new work until the current work is done, and he gives himself a 30 day deadline. For my poetry, I now give myself a 3 day deadline to have it mastered.
It's obvious you're trying to be cool on the internet by parroting whatever's trendy and jumping on the "bad writing bandwagon." Dan and Dave are singularly more talented at writing than you'll ever be at anything, and if I dropped you into the writer's room at the fucking Big Bang Theory, you wouldn't last a morning.
@@davemccombs I've attempted writing before. I stuggle with dialogue. I have flaws. But Dave and Dan deserve no defense. Writing may be hard, but they could have done alot better in every way. They didn't even try on season 8.
One thing I found that vastly improved my writing has been raising my own conscious and spirituality. When you are trying to send a very important message or make a positive, profound impact on the world, you will be inspired in ways you otherwise did not think possible. Look at J.R.R. Tolkien, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, or even especially the artwork of Alex Grey.
This reminds of something I learned from George on a previous discussion/panel. Linking what I wrote because YT comments destroy formatting. Anyway, it's about what he learned from William Faulkner www.quora.com/Writing-Advice-What-makes-a-story-worth-telling/answer/Alexander-Fortier?share=024777d3&srid=uNAm6
So true! I won’t hide my identity because people can’t understand a writer can write different genres. The imagination has no bounds or limits. It roams free. I write it all. Sometimes genres help channel where the audience will appreciate the literature. It’s not me but the characters. Who could be real people experiences!
I find fantasy authors tend to often write from their soul. It almost has a archetypal journey similar to mythology. It's like they're journaling their dreams. Deeply subconscious. With sci fi, too much time is spent pondering the implications of technology and the net effect is to sterilize the story a bit with rational thinking.
Yeah. I am sure many people have heard how star wars is actually more fantasy than sci fi, since they play so fast and loose with the technology and science and the force is basically magic. It is a great example of how they blend.
@@hynjus001 Still that does not mean that you can just randomly put in things that don't make sense in a fantasy story. It still has to make sense with the rules you came up for, for the said universe. You can't just put plot-holes in the story.
@@IrishEagIe ha ha, I'd just finished the Silmarillion so I'm on a Tolkien high currently :) @Lilitha11 that was exactly what I was thinking while writing this. I think it's why star wars is the most popular sci fi franchise - because it's actually fantasy snuck through the back door. Everything in star wars from lightsabers to the force is basically magic. I think that's why when they tried to explain the force through midichlorians in a sci fi style, there was big backlash. @C.D. Dailey. Thanks. The mythological symbolism is really captivating. Places like Loth Lorien can only come from the depths of a rich subconscious.
No, he's not I don't know why you would think that lol. A Song of Ice And Fire is much better than The Lord of The Rings, I've read both. @@pembomassive1394
What separates GRRM from Dumb and Dumber (D&D) is Martin gives us the benefit of the doubt and he assumes we're intelligent and he writes his stories according to that assumption. Dumb and Dumber on the other hand assume we the viewers are idiot's and that we won't appreciate or be enamored with a complex sprawling plot that involves many different possible outcomes, emotions and plot arcs. This is why George is the 🐐
George has already answered this before, he states that in the beginning you will write bad stories before you start writing stories that are on the level of Asoiaf, he advices to learn the writing craft and just write.
No, you just fell for a 'big bad blue guy' plot and thought you were watching a Harry vs Voldemort showdown because Reddit and Looper tricked you into thinking so. You missed the point of the show, of the characters, and the plot. Don't take that out on them.
I think a character who is evil for evil's sake can be great. When a movie or show has literal demons, those demons should be malevolent and despicable beyond comprehension, and I appreciate when they do a good job of that.
@@davemccombs if the majority of an audience doesn't understand a character's motivations beyond surface-level SEARCH LOCATE DESTROY, that is not the audience's vault. i loved game of thrones. it was arguably the show/movie/franchise i have been most invested in throughout my life, but D&D are edgelords, marginal talents, and have particular issues with nuance. there are things to be celebrated as game of thrones blew past the books' available narrative to source from: costumes, hair, set design, the dragon SFX, and music, but the writing is NOT it. it's particularly upsetting because it seems, at least initially, D&D had some talent; when you consider some of the excellent scenes they created in the first two seasons, including: cersei and catelyn talking about cersei's miscarriage, king robert and cersei's conversation about the dothraki, and arya's cupbearer scenes.
I personally think realizing that the more you write, the better you will get. Writers, like artists, are normally their own worst critics. So it's good, when looking back at your old writing, is understanding what works and what doesn't work and why. Then learn from that to develop, not only your technical writing, but also characters and story. I think the worst thing is to burden yourself with an unrealistic expectation. Also getting into the habit of finishing your story, no matter how good or bad, is important. And while I think it is vital to be enthusiastic about what you're writing, and feel compelled to write it, being able to view it from the eyes of a reader is also important. Finally be honest with yourself.
TaleWorlds only wants the best. It will be done and completed. They want to deal with bugs and issues beforehand and as someone who's read a lot on the development of games, I'll wait happily knowing that they're striving to deliver a polished, clean product of a game and that these devs really do love the series and the community the series of Mount and Blade has developed.
There is a great deal of realism and politics in game of thrones, I think that's why it was so popular, if it was all about magic like Harry Potter I dont think it would've been that popular.
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ninformant Stannis will end up on the throne just watch! Also the man himself has said that he has been procrastinating when it comes to book 6. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy he has taken his time as there are so many plot points that he needs to resolve/progress, but more than 8 years for one book is a problem.
Erik Throne Do not forget Tolkien basically created two new languages, the many Silmarillions (assembled by his son) and the many extra, unfinished stories like Morgoths Ring. Tolkien also was an artist who sometimes painted his own world, created covers for his books and signed copies with the signature fantasy letters used in the hobbit and in the movies. All that in a time where fantasy was not nearly as popular as it is today.
Basically take all the time you want to work on something, you’ll have more time to notice mistakes, change a plot point so it fits better, and you might learn something later that can help your story. Rushed stories get rushed results.
He's giving a masterclass for free here. *Really think* about what he's saying! -- From your own experience, does everyone speak the same way? Think of some genius from Harlem who had a rough childhood and didn't get a college education. They might speak in slang, but there's intent and intelligence behind their words. Think of a try-hard intellectual (Brian Griffin type) who peppers their speech with vocabulary that would make a thesaurus blush. Is the latter as smart as the former? Probably not. Their dialogue will differ, but you should be able to tease that out for the reader -- and you should trust in the reader to pick up on it. One of the things I love about George's writing is that he doesn't spoon-feed you. He leaves it all in the text. I've counted myself clever for picking up on stuff in ASOIAF but missed countless other clues he's seeded elsewhere. George rewards re-readers. -- Combine all of that with his points on empathy and you have compelling dialogue. What does the genius girl from Harlem want in the situation she's in? Given that, what would she say (knowing what she wants) and how would she say it (speaking with slang and intelligence)? -- He doesn't go into other aspects that make his work great because he'd need a few hours to do that! There's character psychology/idiosyncrasies/pathologies, worldbuilding, trying to make the plot unfold so it doesn't seem contrived but instead appears to be a natural progression of the characters's decisions, POV chapters (choosing words and thoughts that fit with an 8-year old vs a 28-year old), scene-painting, internal consistency and a thousand others! I'm awestruck that he doesn't use a coded set of notes to do all of this. George keeps notes, but the majority of it goes on in his head. He fashions his tales through flashes of genius, "gardening" (I.E. making it up, or not using an outline) as he goes. There is much to be learned from his stance on writing. It isn't an easy approach, but if you have the ability and discipline it'll yield great results.
5:30 this is so funny, because Dan and Dave have both Cersei saying “I choose violence” and Dany saying “So let it be fear then.” So apparently they must not have spent too long at GRRMs house talking about the story, maybe instead they were playing with his action figures while he was trying to talk them off the cliff of destroying his story.
Just write each part all down, leaving nothing out and then edit using the iceberg method. I do it all the time, and write great poetry. I dump my entire poem on the page in parts with preselected devices I will use and then I trim from the top as I add a new part. I follow hemingways advice and I always write great work and keep having writing success.
5:46 why did they laugh at that? Doctor Doom has proven that his methods work for the better. His citizens love him and they prosper. He really does think what he is doing is just and half of the time it is.
As a writer who started a story that made people invested for a decade now then yes.... he do owes them to finish it. I write too but I'm not famous yet but if I would start a series I would do everything to finish it and not make people wait so many years just saying!
Titus Andronicus really has the best villain: Lucius. Art thou not sorry for these heinous deeds? Aaron: Ay, that I had not done a thousand more. Even now I curse the day-and yet, I think, Few come within the compass of my curse,- Wherein I did not some notorious ill, As kill a man, or else devise his death, Ravish a maid, or plot the way to do it, Accuse some innocent and forswear myself, Set deadly enmity between two friends, Make poor men's cattle break their necks; Set fire on barns and hay-stacks in the night, And bid the owners quench them with their tears. Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves, And set them upright at their dear friends' doors, Even when their sorrows almost were forgot; And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, Have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.' Tut, I have done a thousand dreadful things As willingly as one would kill a fly, And nothing grieves me heartily indeed But that I cannot do ten thousand more
I need a raven to pass this along. Is this really the battle of Summer Hall? Has Summerhall been writen yet at all?The wind stood still and the silenced roar. Rhaegar stood in balance and grew once more. Dancing dragons drumming snores Hammer Druming battle songs. Baratheon warg and the earth shook. Battle arms ready my lords. Everyone in the halls stared in awe. Both Rhaegar and Baratheon squaring off. Rhaegar swing his sword and sang a song.-Danilo Antonio
The problem is that the readers are smarter, but the book buyers aren't. The publisher's customer isn't the readers, it's the book stores, and the people who manage the inventories of books don't read everything they buy, how could they? The stores divide up their shelf space by genre, and the hapless retail employees are expected to shelve the books in the correct section.
How does someone say horror and fantasy are opposites? Or comic books for that matter? A good fantasy story should have elements of horror in it. And the heroes of these fantasy novels tend to share similarities to heroes in comic books. They are all stories and all stories can share elements from multiple styles.
@@JoeMama-yd1ve Fair enough. If you are an actor with a twenty seven year long (and counting) career during which you provided audiences with enjoyable comedy/action adventure, and dramatic roles, you have gone through medical issues,and an expensive divorce are you allowed to enjoy your favorite meals without being berated for not having the same physique you had at twenty nine?
Also he's incredibly underrated in his comedy writing. I'd often find myself laughing out loud reading his books.
Paul not just Tyrion. I loved reading the chapters with the hound, Jaime and even Cersei. Like how Cersei would treat Pycelle, lol. N that scene when the hound gives an “I O U” letter of 10000 dragons to that merchant as a payment of 20 dragons and then he says he’ll be back for the rest so don’t go spending it all. Lolllol
“It turns out Tywin Lannister did not shit gold”
My personal favorite when Cersei got the high sparrow to check if Queen Margerie is a a virgin... lmao she was the literal worst!
@@h4hashir that shit was hysterical. They really fucked him over with that. Fucking bastard brotherhood cunts. LMAO I swear to god I was so pissed for him.
Then they didnt even redeem themselves by Falling in with the B.S lady stoneheart.
Jon Snow is surprisingly funny. He's always sprouting off a sassy one liner.
Can you imagine getting into a writing class with this guy as your instructor?
First lesson,any character would die or will die,you need to choose the essential ones so the people will cry or joy for them
Nah, I'll be across the hallway in Cormac McCarthy's class.
You would never have to finish any of your assignments!
Not really, he is sort of an elitist.
He actually really reminds me of an English teacher I had. They both look almost exactly the same with the same hair, same body build, and same speech rhythm and accent.
George RR Martin: "Nobody gets up in the morning and says 'I'm the villain"
Tv Show: Hold my Night King...
Do you expect the NK to "have his reasons" in the future books? My few of the NK is that he isn't like a person - he is like a grenade that blew up in everyone's face.
@@yvesgomes Well, we don't even know if the Night King is a character in the books. That being said, it is implied that the Others have some degree of personality, and if they have personality, they'll have motivations.
@Æsunertos Take your upvote
He was a weapon not a villain
@@cangrejo5238 a weapon is a tool... a villain is a character.
I really liked that exercise example on trying to make character speeches sound different in order to identity them through their archetypes. Everybody sounds differently so of course there's going to be some differences in their speech to distinguish their personality.
SkyGamerUK he’s referring to the books, and of course there’s going to be some commonality from speeches from the way how people speak since personality traits are bound to be common from mannerisms.
And I don’t know how you couldn’t tell the difference from Jon and Tyrion’s dialogue since Tyrion is consistently talking about wine, women, or has some smart ass remark while Jon is constantly trying his best to be humble and friends with people in the friendly respectful way.
As a very casual amateur writer, I find dialog with casual speech the hardest thing.
Yves Gomes do you wanna talk about that? Or write about that?
@@SirMrHolmes Uuuuhhhh... I don't know how I could elaborate on that.
What do you find difficult about it?
Watch videos of people talking/hear people chatting on the streets
@@captainironbat251 It's hard to pinpoint it. I also think it's even harder on Portuguese, where the formal language is more drastically different than the informal one. Writing is usually formal. It is tempting to show off vocabulary with formal dialog. My impression is that switching from indirect (likely formal) to direct discourse (informal) requires a lot of discipline.
George RR Martin: One hundred interviews for every page he writes.
So winds of winter is at about 40k pages. He should wrap it up already and move onto the last one!
@@JoeMama-yd1ve I think it's the other way around, he can't ever finish a winds of winter.
Shit I’ll interview him
GRRM *breaths*
People: *applause*
Xperimental *writes shit comment*
Everyone *LyKe*
@TheBobBrom shut up ahole
400 for you sir or mam. It was half the comment half the draw of completion. Fuck it, my OCD demanded it, but your comment is ok, is what I am trying to say. Were all human can we at least meet somewhere around there?
That would be me 😂
I wish I would be just 1% as good at writing as he is
Great answer, writers aren't usually that well spoken and to the point. GRRM feels like a sociable nerd, unlike most of his fans(myself included)
think there are many writers more well spoken than GRRM, but hardly any of them are capable of giving real practical writing advice like he does here. Insight on what's needed, yes. But not really anything on how to apply that insight. That sets him apart. "GRRM feels like a sociable nerd" is really spot on.
@@alexanderfortier5488 I suppose I should write/say IMO or 'as perceived by me' before writing/saying anything about a collective. It did drive a mental discussion, but arguing against your own bias contradicts everything I believe in. :D
Yeah, his dialogue makes his characters sound like they're witty and talk to people a lot, most writers have to create special dialogue just so their characters make a little bit of sense.
@@alexanderfortier5488 Wow what a verbose word salad
He's not a nerd. Real nerds cant say a sungke sentences properly
How do you become a great writer?
You start by actually WRITING
But i'm tired...and my hands are sore...and i've just had such a long day yano
and reading
@@laserbeam3836 Like shakespeare?
@@arnashe8538 I guess you can have your comfort or you can have your dreams
You should read the kind of story you'd like to write something similar. High fantasy, low fantasy like ASoIaF, horror, sci-fi, etc.
If you have a great story you just have to work at it and it will take shape, it morphs at the same time and takes detours and you suddenly discover more about your own story. I studied literature at university but have never tried to write an actual novel...but I've had a story in my mind which I really really like.
I believe you shouldn't try and please others, write it for yourself.
Go ahead and write it man!
@@dw3134 Not easy with a full time job and life, this summer I'm going to dedicate all my time to it, I will inbox you the idea if you are interested lol
I have tons of story ideas and its easy for me to come up chars and worlds. I write them down but I just dont have the proper education when it comes to grammar and my vocabulary is small. I don't have a job right now and its stressing me out so I cant bring myself to write or do anything productive.
@@Drake00000010 Honestly I think vocabulary and grammar is overrated when it comes to fiction. Novel writing is all about creating emotion through characters and the art of story telling. Reading is the key, read and read and read and you will be inspired. Good luck with the job hunting, do what you love and everything else will fall into place, I've lived abroad for the past 3 years and that was the best thing I did, sometimes you just got to take risks. A change of scenery too!
@@Pianosnail12 Sure!
My debut novel will soon be published, and I owe some thanks to George. Not only for his wonderful books, but also for the advice he gave me back in 2015.
You got any blurb or intro you could send over?
Can't wait for another shit novel I suppose.
"Oh my dweem is to whight a nowel"
Get a hold of yourself man, you are in the youtube comment section < -
@@sho1oo cry more
@@sho1oo at least he isn’t going out of his way to bash people
@@mr.god.complex yeah you are totally right.
I'm not the same anymore. I actually take it back
GRRM's three steps to success:
1) Toil in obscurity for decades.
2) Become the most famous writer in the world.
3) Immediately quit writing and become a professional interviewee.
He's purposefully doing interviews until he dies so whoever completes A Song of Ice & Fire posthumously takes all the heat for the inevitable anti-climax, while GRRM is laughing from the grave.
:)
well he's written more books than interviews
Damn, you forgot 4) Write useless youtube comments.
@frootjooce You can be paid for your work and still be obscure. There are so many books, games, movies, etc out there, it's impossible for all of them to enter the main stream.
Read, read , read, read and lastly, read.
Not just read. Read and UNDERSTAND what you're reading to utilize it.
@LudicrousKid agreed.
Hey @icecreamcake where can i find your profile pic?
And write down your thoughts.
Step 1: Finish your books.
As a writer I agree completely. Getting too wrapped up into compartmentalizing genres really shortchanges the ability to broaden the scope of storytelling.
If you don't write, you can't be a bad writer.
Thanks Chuck Norris!
Big brain bro. 😆
But if you don't write, you can't be a GOOD writer, either.
If you don't write you aren't a writer first and foremost.
If you don't write, you are not a writer too.
I like that he waited to bring up empathy. For some reason it was more meaningful to say this near the end, instead of right out the gate.
Storytelling!
He looks like a mix of Wario and Waluigi
He looks like Sniper from Dota 2
lmao
Yes
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I respect George RR Martin I have nothing too hate about him because people who write bad things about him are just low life’s but I am taking he’s advice.
I respect all writers.
The great thing about writing and books in general is its a type of story telling medium that has no limitations. Unlike live action tv shows, and even animation to an extent. Books have no restrictions what so ever and you can only go as far your imagination desires for how ever long you want to write. Its a shame that many fantasy authors works that are brough to life on screen are never adapted to the extent of what the writer himself invisions but its still nice to see a live action that chronicles the world, the setting and characters you created as a writer.
It's a good point he makes about genre. Technically, science fiction is not a genre, it's a setting and narrative form. Fantasy is the same, a setting form that incorporates real genres like action, love etc.
Horror is the only real, technical genre there.
Genre is a narrative form.
LOL Genre is not real. It never was. Did Homer write action? Did Dante write horror? Its a modern thing by corporations to sell stuff most great writers don't care - as he says. A story is a story.
To think that D&D spoke with this man
And adapted his unadaptable work, turned it into a cultural phenomenon, and the most popular TV show of all time. Get off the "bad writing" bandwagon. You wouldn't last a morning in a writer's room and the HBO team are better at what they do than you'll ever be at anything.
@@davemccombs That's quite the logical fallacy
I don't need to be a helicopter pilot to know that a helicopter is not suppose to be lodged in a tree
Edit:
I should perhaps clarify; what D&D did was absolutely monumental and I'll be forever grateful for the first 6 seasons of incredible television and the tremendous amount of effort in the latest 2 thanks to these two. It's upsetting that season 8 turned out the way it did and because of that, my butt is firmly planted on this bandwagon.
GnomeDazzle get off their ass
D&D were fine while they accepted their own limitations _ i.e. when they had the books to lean on and used other writers a lot.
Once they were past the books, the cracks started to show. Once they started thinking *they* were great writers and stopped using others much, wheels started to fall off the wagon.
And once they started smelling awards, sacrificing plot logic to spectacle, + stopped giving a s$#$, Season 8's plot went to hell.
Anyone who watches individual Thrones clips on UA-cam can tell you: the acting + camera work stayed great to the end.
Literally the only flaw was having D&D in charge. By the end, they were so arrogant they didn't even care what *HBO* thought _ never mind the fans.
If HBO (+ GRRM) had had their way, there would have been enough episodes and time to put flesh on the leaky creaky S8 plot.
Putting it another way _ if HBO had told D&D to fk off to Star Wars *BEFORE* Season 8, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
D & D did really good work, just the last season they failed with. But the first 6 seasons are some of the best TV ever made.
I really like how George begins his sentences you can see him think about what he is going say before he says is
One of the greatest tips to be a writer is to actually finish a story you were writing.
And don't start nothing new until you do or burn it. Bill Collins don't start any new work until his current work is done, and will sit at his desk for as long as it takes to get the first draft done. I find that his approach is best. Stephen king also doesn't start new work until the current work is done, and he gives himself a 30 day deadline. For my poetry, I now give myself a 3 day deadline to have it mastered.
@@ladybird491 couldn't say it better myself!
*The greatest tip
Greatest tip
It's obvious David and Dan didn't watch this...
To think that they talked to this man
And ended up making the worst final season to the greatest show. @@RacinZilla003
HAHAHA I thought the exact same words right before I read your comment! LOL
It's obvious you're trying to be cool on the internet by parroting whatever's trendy and jumping on the "bad writing bandwagon." Dan and Dave are singularly more talented at writing than you'll ever be at anything, and if I dropped you into the writer's room at the fucking Big Bang Theory, you wouldn't last a morning.
@@davemccombs I've attempted writing before. I stuggle with dialogue. I have flaws. But Dave and Dan deserve no defense. Writing may be hard, but they could have done alot better in every way. They didn't even try on season 8.
Finish what you've started.
One thing I found that vastly improved my writing has been raising my own conscious and spirituality. When you are trying to send a very important message or make a positive, profound impact on the world, you will be inspired in ways you otherwise did not think possible. Look at J.R.R. Tolkien, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, or even especially the artwork of Alex Grey.
This reminds of something I learned from George on a previous discussion/panel. Linking what I wrote because YT comments destroy formatting. Anyway, it's about what he learned from William Faulkner www.quora.com/Writing-Advice-What-makes-a-story-worth-telling/answer/Alexander-Fortier?share=024777d3&srid=uNAm6
This is great advice.
So true! I won’t hide my identity because people can’t understand a writer can write different genres. The imagination has no bounds or limits. It roams free. I write it all. Sometimes genres help channel where the audience will appreciate the literature. It’s not me but the characters. Who could be real people experiences!
He is Dark Santa
The only difference between sci fi and fantasy is that in sci fi technology replaces magic.
I find fantasy authors tend to often write from their soul. It almost has a archetypal journey similar to mythology. It's like they're journaling their dreams. Deeply subconscious. With sci fi, too much time is spent pondering the implications of technology and the net effect is to sterilize the story a bit with rational thinking.
Yeah. I am sure many people have heard how star wars is actually more fantasy than sci fi, since they play so fast and loose with the technology and science and the force is basically magic. It is a great example of how they blend.
@@hynjus001 Still that does not mean that you can just randomly put in things that don't make sense in a fantasy story. It still has to make sense with the rules you came up for, for the said universe. You can't just put plot-holes in the story.
@@hynjus001 Hey! I just read a comment of yours from a lotr video! lol
Here: ua-cam.com/video/LUO5qhpD2pA/v-deo.html
@@IrishEagIe ha ha, I'd just finished the Silmarillion so I'm on a Tolkien high currently :)
@Lilitha11 that was exactly what I was thinking while writing this. I think it's why star wars is the most popular sci fi franchise - because it's actually fantasy snuck through the back door. Everything in star wars from lightsabers to the force is basically magic. I think that's why when they tried to explain the force through midichlorians in a sci fi style, there was big backlash.
@C.D. Dailey. Thanks. The mythological symbolism is really captivating. Places like Loth Lorien can only come from the depths of a rich subconscious.
He is one of the best authors of our time.
*all time. He's up there with Tolkien and HP Lovecraft
@@Divinemakyr our time is included in all time.
obviously. @@mahikannakiham2477
Tolkien is much better@@Divinemakyr
No, he's not I don't know why you would think that lol. A Song of Ice And Fire is much better than The Lord of The Rings, I've read both. @@pembomassive1394
Interviewer : "What qualities are needed to be a good writer?"
George : "Be a good writer."
Me : "OK, cheers for that."
What separates GRRM from Dumb and Dumber (D&D) is Martin gives us the benefit of the doubt and he assumes we're intelligent and he writes his stories according to that assumption. Dumb and Dumber on the other hand assume we the viewers are idiot's and that we won't appreciate or be enamored with a complex sprawling plot that involves many different possible outcomes, emotions and plot arcs.
This is why George is the 🐐
@gorgoroth1919 26 people agree with me 1 doesn't. I'll take that ratio.
@gorgoroth1919 It's not an argument, indeed, it's a description
@gorgoroth1919 writers? Dumb & Dumber are barely writers... At least in terms of GoT.
thats because the people who read the books actually are intelligent, and those that just watched the show are idiots.
@gorgoroth1919 Seriously watch later GOT Dumb and Dumber is a NICE way to refer to them LOL
George has already answered this before, he states that in the beginning you will write bad stories before you start writing stories that are on the level of Asoiaf, he advices to learn the writing craft and just write.
And yet D&D wrote a Night King who was just evil for evils sake. SMH
No, you just fell for a 'big bad blue guy' plot and thought you were watching a Harry vs Voldemort showdown because Reddit and Looper tricked you into thinking so. You missed the point of the show, of the characters, and the plot. Don't take that out on them.
One D wrote X-Men Origins: Wolverine so there ya go.
I think a character who is evil for evil's sake can be great. When a movie or show has literal demons, those demons should be malevolent and despicable beyond comprehension, and I appreciate when they do a good job of that.
@@davemccombs if the majority of an audience doesn't understand a character's motivations beyond surface-level SEARCH LOCATE DESTROY, that is not the audience's vault. i loved game of thrones. it was arguably the show/movie/franchise i have been most invested in throughout my life, but D&D are edgelords, marginal talents, and have particular issues with nuance. there are things to be celebrated as game of thrones blew past the books' available narrative to source from: costumes, hair, set design, the dragon SFX, and music, but the writing is NOT it. it's particularly upsetting because it seems, at least initially, D&D had some talent; when you consider some of the excellent scenes they created in the first two seasons, including: cersei and catelyn talking about cersei's miscarriage, king robert and cersei's conversation about the dothraki, and arya's cupbearer scenes.
He forgot the most important part. WRITE IT.
I personally think realizing that the more you write, the better you will get. Writers, like artists, are normally their own worst critics. So it's good, when looking back at your old writing, is understanding what works and what doesn't work and why. Then learn from that to develop, not only your technical writing, but also characters and story. I think the worst thing is to burden yourself with an unrealistic expectation. Also getting into the habit of finishing your story, no matter how good or bad, is important. And while I think it is vital to be enthusiastic about what you're writing, and feel compelled to write it, being able to view it from the eyes of a reader is also important. Finally be honest with yourself.
Write what you know and if you don’t know get to know.
I always felt the same. Fantasy scifi and horror are intertwined. The Witcher series, for example, is all three genres at the same time.
build muscle in your fingers
How to be a good writer? Take your time. AM I RIGHT GEORGE
Anyone noticed the 2 coke bottles next to GRRM?
“Less talking more writing” Warband fans will understand..
You fuckin write his stories
Warband is my favorite game of all time! even made a clan for it
@@JonLee123 what clan I am a warband player
C P triggered
TaleWorlds only wants the best. It will be done and completed. They want to deal with bugs and issues beforehand and as someone who's read a lot on the development of games, I'll wait happily knowing that they're striving to deliver a polished, clean product of a game and that these devs really do love the series and the community the series of Mount and Blade has developed.
There is a great deal of realism and politics in game of thrones, I think that's why it was so popular, if it was all about magic like Harry Potter I dont think it would've been that popular.
finishing your writing is a good start.
I love this man and this channel so much
Great tip. This also goes for music writing!
...Can you hear that?
...Well?
Can you hear it?
...Please, tell me you can hear it.
...it’s the Hum!
Do you know what that Hum is?
...It’s your courage to come.
Know that there is no challenge that we cannot overcome.
We shall win...and we shall do it with courage.
every crum.
The Hum - hums ahead of our hearts, shielding all precious to soul.
The Hum of our hearts...that song,
the hymn of courage,
of strength,
confidence,
has come,
and doubters of courage and discouragers are dumb,
and if you doubt what you have,
if you do doubt each starry crumb of your courage beating,
singing, burning and humming within you,
then you will remain glum.
A courageless heart is a soul numb.
Now let this world be our fearless drum,
for courage and its rise;
it’s time for us to remove our conformity-disguise.
From courageous fire rising over our hearts - we -
the matchless -
shall beat the ordinary enemy,
for fear is no competition to the Hum to drum the world.
All threats, great...small, past, present and future -
we have, we can...we will overcome;
we will overcome all fear,
every enemy,
each obstacle,
every and each challenge,
and we will do it with courage.
We are the hum...
the only hum to drum this world.
So everybody listen.
listen to your hum...hear the hum of others.
It’s there...always there, and it never goes, can never die...the hum is always passed on.
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Man just said “just be good” 😂
Love the master class ad
I would think a great writer would actually manage to finish the stories that he started.
If only d&d saw this
One thing I’ve got from George RR Martin about being successful as an author is to procrastinate. I will take his example to heart.
ninformant Stannis will end up on the throne just watch! Also the man himself has said that he has been procrastinating when it comes to book 6. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy he has taken his time as there are so many plot points that he needs to resolve/progress, but more than 8 years for one book is a problem.
1.take 8 years to finish a book.
😢
And it took Tolkien a lifetime to writer his story The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
Erik Throne Do not forget Tolkien basically created two new languages, the many Silmarillions (assembled by his son) and the many extra, unfinished stories like Morgoths Ring.
Tolkien also was an artist who sometimes painted his own world, created covers for his books and signed copies with the signature fantasy letters used in the hobbit and in the movies.
All that in a time where fantasy was not nearly as popular as it is today.
Basically take all the time you want to work on something, you’ll have more time to notice mistakes, change a plot point so it fits better, and you might learn something later that can help your story. Rushed stories get rushed results.
Whenever I feel that the story is taking too much time I remind myself what happened to the show
George RR Martin on How to be a Fast Writer: Video Not Found
He's giving a masterclass for free here. *Really think* about what he's saying!
-- From your own experience, does everyone speak the same way? Think of some genius from Harlem who had a rough childhood and didn't get a college education. They might speak in slang, but there's intent and intelligence behind their words. Think of a try-hard intellectual (Brian Griffin type) who peppers their speech with vocabulary that would make a thesaurus blush. Is the latter as smart as the former? Probably not. Their dialogue will differ, but you should be able to tease that out for the reader -- and you should trust in the reader to pick up on it. One of the things I love about George's writing is that he doesn't spoon-feed you. He leaves it all in the text. I've counted myself clever for picking up on stuff in ASOIAF but missed countless other clues he's seeded elsewhere. George rewards re-readers.
-- Combine all of that with his points on empathy and you have compelling dialogue. What does the genius girl from Harlem want in the situation she's in? Given that, what would she say (knowing what she wants) and how would she say it (speaking with slang and intelligence)?
-- He doesn't go into other aspects that make his work great because he'd need a few hours to do that! There's character psychology/idiosyncrasies/pathologies, worldbuilding, trying to make the plot unfold so it doesn't seem contrived but instead appears to be a natural progression of the characters's decisions, POV chapters (choosing words and thoughts that fit with an 8-year old vs a 28-year old), scene-painting, internal consistency and a thousand others!
I'm awestruck that he doesn't use a coded set of notes to do all of this. George keeps notes, but the majority of it goes on in his head. He fashions his tales through flashes of genius, "gardening" (I.E. making it up, or not using an outline) as he goes. There is much to be learned from his stance on writing. It isn't an easy approach, but if you have the ability and discipline it'll yield great results.
Step 1: finish the book
Step 1: actually write
5:30 this is so funny, because Dan and Dave have both Cersei saying “I choose violence” and Dany saying “So let it be fear then.” So apparently they must not have spent too long at GRRMs house talking about the story, maybe instead they were playing with his action figures while he was trying to talk them off the cliff of destroying his story.
What's the most important part of ANY book?
Well... being able to fucking read it!
This is Tyrion speaking = This is Littlefinger speaking = This is the Producers speaking.
How to be a great writer by George r r Martin write three great books then rarely work on them for the next twenty years.
The thumbnail made it look like Yagrum Bagarn was sitting in that chair.
how to be a great writer avoid everything season 7& 8 has done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GOAT
Sabias palavras, mestre Martin.
Just write each part all down, leaving nothing out and then edit using the iceberg method. I do it all the time, and write great poetry. I dump my entire poem on the page in parts with preselected devices I will use and then I trim from the top as I add a new part. I follow hemingways advice and I always write great work and keep having writing success.
5:46 why did they laugh at that? Doctor Doom has proven that his methods work for the better. His citizens love him and they prosper. He really does think what he is doing is just and half of the time it is.
Who needs a publisher when you can be your own publisher on the internet.
Waiting for GRRM to start his own religion like L. Ron Hubbard. He has the right hat to start.
People here acting like grrm owes them something
As a writer who started a story that made people invested for a decade now then yes.... he do owes them to finish it. I write too but I'm not famous yet but if I would start a series I would do everything to finish it and not make people wait so many years just saying!
Nah he does it cos he wants to see them.. he struggled long and hard to get ANYONE to read what he wrote... he's in heaven
....plus... he owes it to the younger version of himself to always attend
Titus Andronicus really has the best villain:
Lucius. Art thou not sorry for these heinous deeds?
Aaron: Ay, that I had not done a thousand more.
Even now I curse the day-and yet, I think,
Few come within the compass of my curse,-
Wherein I did not some notorious ill,
As kill a man, or else devise his death,
Ravish a maid, or plot the way to do it,
Accuse some innocent and forswear myself,
Set deadly enmity between two friends,
Make poor men's cattle break their necks;
Set fire on barns and hay-stacks in the night,
And bid the owners quench them with their tears.
Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves,
And set them upright at their dear friends' doors,
Even when their sorrows almost were forgot;
And on their skins, as on the bark of trees,
Have with my knife carved in Roman letters,
'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'
Tut, I have done a thousand dreadful things
As willingly as one would kill a fly,
And nothing grieves me heartily indeed
But that I cannot do ten thousand more
If only JJ Abrams had seen this.......
If i ever make it in the book industry (probably not). I will speak about GRRM in the interviews like grrm speaks about Tolkien.
Great writers don’t procrastinate indefinitely.
George RR Martin on How to be a Great Writer:
"Easy: don't fuck up like D&D did with The Long Night!"
I need a raven to pass this along. Is this really the battle of Summer Hall? Has Summerhall been writen yet at all?The wind stood still and the silenced roar. Rhaegar stood in
balance and grew once more. Dancing dragons drumming snores Hammer Druming battle songs. Baratheon warg and the earth shook. Battle arms ready my lords. Everyone in the halls stared
in awe. Both Rhaegar and Baratheon squaring off. Rhaegar swing his sword and
sang a song.-Danilo Antonio
I love that he said H.P. Lovecraft. Just do.
Someone please tell me how to get a great ear for prose.
I keep thinking it’s playing Langston Hughes on repeat, but I’m probably wrong.
His voice threw me off i never heard him speak until now i thought he would have a Morgan Freeman type voice..
It's so annoying when he gets interrupted by either the interviewer or the crowd clapping. Please let the man speak
Where is the full video?
How to write a show into the ground 101
Is someone gonna teach him. He will never finish asoif
When I watch Star Wars I always considered it a fantasy not SiFi. Odd.
The problem is that the readers are smarter, but the book buyers aren't. The publisher's customer isn't the readers, it's the book stores, and the people who manage the inventories of books don't read everything they buy, how could they? The stores divide up their shelf space by genre, and the hapless retail employees are expected to shelve the books in the correct section.
How does someone say horror and fantasy are opposites? Or comic books for that matter? A good fantasy story should have elements of horror in it. And the heroes of these fantasy novels tend to share similarities to heroes in comic books. They are all stories and all stories can share elements from multiple styles.
I want to see J K Rowling and George Martin having a conversation ❤
Sheru Khan no
Please no.
Why not? GRRM would just destroy Rowling with his intelligence
how about finish your books
I have to wonder: do I need an advice from a dude who wrote himself into a dead end and can't complete his book series? 🤔 Do I?
he drinks coca cola, great just fucking great. hoping him to be healthy.
WHY in virgins Mary name are you drinking coca cola George Martin? we need you healthy man.
George mentions Doctor Doom! 😍
Read a lot and write a lot
He's drinking fucking Cola during this interview???
Jesus we're never gonna see these books finished
Is this man really putting down two Cokes during an interview? Makes me feel the some type of way.
When you’re an old man and you write a sprawling fantasy epic that captivates the world you are allowed to enjoy 2 cokes without being judged.
@@JoeMama-yd1ve Fair enough. If you are an actor with a twenty seven year long (and counting) career during which you provided audiences with enjoyable comedy/action adventure, and dramatic roles, you have gone through medical issues,and an expensive divorce are you allowed to enjoy your favorite meals without being berated for not having the same physique you had at twenty nine?
robert Jackson you are allowed to be judged for being unhealthy no matter who you are Ricky.
You know whats nice. When an acclaimed novelist
talks about dr doom
Nobody gets up in the morning and says what evil things could do today, except Dr.Doom and D.Troomp
You learned nothing from this interview
finishing your novels.