Kristaps Porzingis surgery & Boston Celtics draft Baylor Scheierman, Anton Watson
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The Celtics announced on Thursday that Kristaps Porzingis would miss 5-6 months after ankle surgery, meaning he'll miss the start of the season. John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal and Tom Westerholm react to that before getting into the Celtics draft. Baylor Scheierman and Anton Watson represent a chance for Boston to snag a useful player at the end of the first round and into the second, as well as provide some insurance against a quirky offseason that could cost them key players.
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Tom looks like he's going to become a state trooper 🚔🤣
My reaction to the Porzingis injury: you're the first person I've heard talk about it who can 1) do math and 2) doesn't automatically add a "Porzingis Factor" to it. Heard four different people lay out exactly what you said with the following reaction: it's "well past Christmas," "January at the earliest," "that tells me maybe 8 months," and my favorite, "more than half the season." IT WILL BE FINE.
I have one tweak/add to the way the C's handled him, because this happened twice. It's for Joe: if the man twists his ankle or some other thing, TAKE HIM OUT OF THE GAME THAT SECOND. There were two times this year he tweaked something, stayed in, and then injured SOMETHING ELSE while compensating. His own worst enemy? Make his assistant coach a spotter.
Yeah, I was surprised they didn't pull Porzingis out the game immediately upon his getting injured, particularly when they seem to be careful about managing him otherwise. Surely someone on the Celtics bench must have been aware. Call a timeout if you need to, and get him off the court.
It’s on KP as well. I understand wanting to play through things, but he needs to realize when things aren’t right it’s ok to take a seat on the court until a dead ball especially considering his history.
@@bmcfonziefor real-there’s definitely been some times in the last 6 months where I’m like “why tf is he still playing”… because Luke kornet or Tillman are farrrr better than the injured shell of porzingis. We have more than enough depth so I never understood why they would waste an extra 5 or 6 possessions when someone is clearly limping and getting blown by every time on defense.
It’s like mazzulla needs to see an injured player get scored on 2 or 3 times in a row before he decides that having them on the floor is maybe not the best idea.
I love joe and think he’s an awesome coach but that one thing kinda bugs me lol
Get well soon KP💚☘
Rest up Tall Man ! Come back with that Phantasm Swag !!!! BOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
I'm always checking the uniform number to keep Al and X apart
Given no more injuries- this roster wins 58-60 games easy. KP being out is just a good player development opportunity. If KP can’t come back healthy that’s a big problem - otherwise all is very well in Celtic world. 🍀 🏀🍀
If KP has injuries again next year as he did this year it will be a huge problem. He’s making 30 mil a year. The Celtics are stuck with him through the 25-26 season. No one will take him on a trade at that price without giving up 2-3 first round pics. The Celtics knew he was highly injury prone. He needs to be a Bill Walton type sixth man play 15-18 minutes off the bench or he will just be too banged up down the stretch to be effective in winning another chip.
Tom, when he said, "I got balloons," he reminded me of Sheldon whenever he figures something out. lmao 😂
Tillman with a full offseason to adjust to this system will benifet him a lot. I just want another front court piece for the postsesason just incase KP misses any playoff games, I don't care about the regular season.
Al deserves the Time Wakefield treatment, unlimited player options as long as he wants to play
Im not worried about losing draft picks when we are loaded 1-9 and im sure we are a FA destination for guys who like winning. I do like our picks and look forward to summer league and whatever Maine assembles.
Not sure Sam was consistently productive enough to command more than $8-12m, which is reasonable for his role & highly tradable
Your crazy.. Pritchard got 30 million! Hauser is easily worth 30 to 50 5 years. Something like that, he plays both sides! Had one of the highest plus minus in the league. He’s a deadly shooter. Top 5 shooter in the league and he just won a ring so his stock is up. He played great in the finals. Stop looking at ppg!
They are all worth whatever someone is willing to pay them.
Look how much Houser took to get a decent defensive player the new kid is not even ready, the Celtics window is 2 more years after that they might blew everything up. You pay Houser those 2 years..
$8-12 per year or $8-12 total? If you mean the former, I think that is about right.
In this league a 40% 3pt shooter who holds up on defense is extremely valuable. Someone will offer him 15+ million a year.
THANK YOU!!! I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!!
The draft picks are exactly what Brad said he's was looking for talented players that can fit into the process. Good size for positions that are a need for our bench and are defensive minded
Time to make sense of these picks, was waiting eagerly for this pod.
Initial thoughts, I like the picks. But even if they’re bad doesn’t really matter.
I mean, it doesn't matter so much this year, but it matters going forward that at least one of these guys is good. Whether it be as depth options for years going forward or trade assets, hitting on these types of guys are how you create a dynasty.
Baylor is going to be a really good player for many years in the NBA
Boston should have drafted Filipowski, not Baylor.
@@angelrosario626I’d rather have Baylor, not sure flip is physical enough as opposed to other bigs we already have and could get in FA
@@cdngravy844 You might be right.
@@angelrosario626 he dropped because mental reasons, he is being groomed by a crazy Morman chick
Wow, thanks John, I did get last minute tickets on the gametime app to Monday’s Red Sox game. And it was amazing. The C’s were in the box above my section in right and Derrick white rallied the crowd with the trophy in the 8th to help the Sox comeback and walk it off.
Derrick white, winning basketball and baseball games for Boston!
PAY HIM 💰🍀🍀🍀🍀
Oh, and I bought Craic sauce too 🔥🔥
You are my new favorite
If I didn't already buy the book I would have for sure after that intro 😂
Is Cooper flag this next seasons Wemby? As a proud Mainer I’ve been following him since he was 13 but it’s awesome to see a local kids be the consensus #1. I just wasn’t sure it was only local media pumping him up. Of course next season will be the deciding factor.
right now he's the consensus #1. We'll see how he does at Duke
Appreciate the breakdown
I hope Baylor can play similar to Desmond Bane who was also a 30th pick . He will play less minutes than Bane with our loaded roster, but all we need is efficiency and consistency in his all around game once his number is called off the bench.
The majority of the Celtics' recent draft picks have only been with the team for about three years. Think back to guys like Carsen Edwards, Tremont Waters, Grant Williams, Aaron Nesmith, Romeo Langford, Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye... Tatum, Brown, and Rob were the only guys drafted in recent years who were with the team for 5+ seasons. My point being, most players they have drafted in recent years have been fillers on cheap rookie-scale contracts who are all traded or let go before they are up for a new contract. That way they can keep the focus on paying their stars. If one of these two or Davison or Walsh turns into a key contributor (like Payton Pritchard who actually did sign an extension) then that's great! But they're likely just looking to add cheap, short-term pieces rather than focus on full long-term development. 23 year-olds with experience are the best fit for that role.
i wonder if baylor had visits in 22 and 24 with alot of the same teams. or was Bos unique in that way
KP will be the man in the holidays and beyond. Go get a top Center in free agency to fill the void until he returns.
so this is the tillman insurance? small ball big (big wing size) that shoots well from 3? i guess that's good for mazzula ball. not impressed with the rebounding or rim protection. hopefully he's good enough to be that switching big that tillman played.
i did like that brad didnt draft a guard. not as impressed with this pick as Baylor. i hoped brad would trade up to pick up flip, klintman or smith (all went before pick 38).
I gave brad a B for baylor. I give him a C for watson. so I guess overall grade would be C+. will see if my assessment of him changes in summer league. i have a feeling i'll be upgrading the grade of Baylor.
Reason KP was so frail is bc he's been semi-rushed back to play. He is SO talented it DEMANDS he be brought back along methodically so he heals correctly. We want KP LONG TERM.
We never rushed him back at all what are you talking about. In the finals he was fully healthy from the calf he was just so injury prone he got injured again. It’s who he is. We load managed him like crazy all year and he still got injured. He’s an amazing talent but it’s inevitable at this point and we need to be prepared for it.
John, would u pls elaborate on likelihood of C's retaining Tillman?
I try to block out me ankle ligament reco. I wasn't an NBA player & I was 18 so it isn't the same. However, I am not surprised KP will be out to Christmas. He will have no conditioning when he is cleared in 3 months & that is a recipe for soft tissue injuries.
I have concern about the big situation, and don't want to wear Al out during regular season. If X or Luke were to leave, how about Mo Bamba? Not my first choice, but a guy we may be able to afford. Drummond is in that same price range. Tillman is only 25? I thought he might have had grandchildren.
The guys they had under contract last year (Horford, Kornet, Tillman, Queta) are good enough to fill in during Porzingis' absence. That said, not sure if all of them will be back next season. I hope they resign Tillman in particular, because Kornet and Queta don't have the same mobility on defense (they basically fill the same role). Tillman is the guy to fill the Grant Williams role.
Especially if we lose Brissett. Tillman will become very important for depth behind Horford. Cause Horford plays small ball center/power forward and Tillman can as well.
The only issue is just the margin of error if another injury happens to a key piece imo
I think Stevens might use Hauser as an asset and maybe a FRP to find the 3rd big behind KP and AL. In the Postseason they need another option to rebound and defend bigs. Move on from Brissett and Kornet.
Tsk Tsk 3:45 before John puts on the Belt graphic. World Champion podcast must hold you to that standard.
I keep forgetting. I'll get there
Sorry John. I still want the 1 seed 😊
John/Tom, what would you think of the Celtics adding Dwight Howard?
HARD PASS
Oh man. Poor Kristaps. We need to get Oscar Goldman to rebuild him. Better than he was before. Better, Faster, ...Stronger.
Carsen Edwards dunked on 2 MVPs same time
Celtics should sign saiah Hartenstein's
Hey I’m looking for a fan of every team to shoutout would you like to represent the Celtics?
neemis q How about Kabengele where is he
Kab is in Italy.
@@LockedOnCeltics damm! Thank you.
B.Cheirman could be better than Hauser because can shoot well and can put the ball on the floor
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Hey all, one of these doesn’t belong. Super Bowl NBA Finals, Stanley Cup World Series. NBA Finals are a boring name. Especially in these days of IP. No, I'm not looking for a sponsorship, just a cool name.
Yeah because Stanley Cup sounds so super duper cool...
I think World Series is fitting for NBA as well with all the international talent that’s there now
Tom got a new chair?!? Sell out. 😂
Had the Celtics traded the 30th pick to the Grizzlies for the 9th pick and selected Zach Edey 9th overall from Purdue and LeBron James’ son Bronny 54th overall from USC, that would’ve given the C’s an A+.
The 30th pick and what else?
Eddy is out of Purdue, maybe you are thinking off Clingan out of UConn? But he went 7th
Why on earth would we get Bronny and that stiff Edey! He’s so slow
yeaaaaah let's fire brad stevens and hire you 🤡
@@MrBacchus18 Oops!
More importantly, Brad struck gold in the NBA draft.
Folks pump the brakes. KP not starting the season is fog. Relax.