10 Iconic Guitarists IGNORED by Rolling Stone's 250 Greatest Guitarists List... | Ben Eunson

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  • My thoughts on Rolling Stone's new guitar list! Let me know what you think in the comments!
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    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:53 Rolling Stone's Lists
    02:01 Where They Get It Right
    03:01 Where They Get It Wrong
    04:10 Guitarist 1
    05:02 Guitarist 2
    05:40 Guitarist 3
    06:06 Guitarist 4
    06:40 Guitarist 5
    07:15 Guitarist 6
    07:46 Guitarist 7
    08:25 Guitarist 8
    08:59 Guitarist 9
    09:46 Guitarist 10
    10:33 Final Thoughts

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  • @beneunson
    @beneunson  6 місяців тому +3

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  • @alisonanthony1228
    @alisonanthony1228 6 місяців тому +89

    Leaving Tommy Emmanuel off immediately invalidates the list in its entirety. Also, no Glen Campbell!

    • @rjb7569
      @rjb7569 6 місяців тому +11

      Tommy and Glen could play rings around a lot of the folks on that list.

    • @dahag2996
      @dahag2996 6 місяців тому +4

      Agreed.

    • @danu6718
      @danu6718 6 місяців тому +4

      💯💯💯 also Allan Holdsworth

    • @lynnyates5973
      @lynnyates5973 6 місяців тому

      Yes exactly ! Those two are my most glaring omissions on this list !

    • @johnhamilton7797
      @johnhamilton7797 6 місяців тому +1

      Al DiMeola needs to be on it.

  • @joesantamaria5874
    @joesantamaria5874 6 місяців тому +68

    Al DiMeola. Not in the top 250? He’s in the top five, electric and acoustic. Flamenco, Fusion, World, Rock, Jazz. The man is a monster!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +3

      Agreed!

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 6 місяців тому

      Al isn't top five of all time... sorry, he's top 5 jazz/fusion though

    • @danu6718
      @danu6718 6 місяців тому +1

      Al DiMeola is exceptional

    • @casedismissed8581
      @casedismissed8581 6 місяців тому

      spot on my friend al's incredible ! however if you think you'll get any honest, rational , unbiased and non-politicly correct choices by this fish wrapping of a magazine YOU'RE SADDLY MISTAKEN !!!!!

    • @montreauxs
      @montreauxs 6 місяців тому

      Even though Al did admit that he has nothing on Polyphia.. He said it himself.

  • @fillasuffer
    @fillasuffer 6 місяців тому +160

    Here are 69 guitarists who should (or could) have been on the Rolling Stone list. There are many, many more, but these players came first to mind:
    Allan Holdsworth
    Steve Morse
    Shawn Lane
    Jimmy Herring
    Scott Henderson
    John Scofield
    Mike Stern
    Guthrie Govan
    Lenny Breau
    George Benson
    Emily Remler
    Yngvie Malmsteen
    Terry Kath
    Jeff Baxter
    Denny Dias
    Paco DeLucia
    Tony Rice
    Brent Mason
    Kenny Burrell
    Joe Pass
    Ted Greene
    Danny Gatton
    Al Di Meola
    Joe Bonamassa
    Robben Ford
    Albert Lee
    Tommy Emmanuel
    Buckethead
    Marcus King
    Paul Gilbert
    Neal Schon
    Eric Gales
    John Abercrombie
    Julian Lage
    Mick Goodrick
    Jimmy Bruno
    Joe Diorio
    Ralph Towner
    Mike Seal
    Kurt Rosenwinkel
    Eddie Lang
    Lonnie Johnson
    Stanley Jordan
    Kevin Eubanks
    Steve Lukather
    Tony MacAlpine
    Michael Landau
    Greg Howe
    Bryan Sutton
    Doc Watson
    Robin Trower
    Jonathan Kreisberg
    Jerry Douglas
    Roy Clark
    Gary Moore
    Glen Campbell
    Don Felder
    Brad Paisley
    Howard Roberts
    Johnny Smith
    Tommy Tedesco
    Michael Thompson
    John Petrucci
    Michael Hedges
    Phil Keaggy
    Matteo Mancuso
    Josh Meader
    Mateus Asato
    Billy Strings

    • @ultragukuss1325
      @ultragukuss1325 6 місяців тому +4

      Perfect suggestions! Man I have to listen to Joe Diorio, it has been to long, your list is very inspiring! Thanks a lot!!

    • @jwatchorn
      @jwatchorn 6 місяців тому +7

      You forgot Ricky Skaggs

    • @JPcares
      @JPcares 6 місяців тому +8

      I didn't look at Rolling Stone list but are you all serious. George Benson, Allan Holdsworth, Michael Hedges, JOHNNY SMITH!, Howard Roberts, Tony Rice, Doc Watson, Danny Gatton?... all not on a list of 250!!! These people were so influentai, prominant and central to modern guitar playing. Robbie Krieger or Ricky Wilson, for example, are famous fine guitarists but not over the above names...

    • @predragmanov6341
      @predragmanov6341 6 місяців тому +10

      Alvin Lee was everyone's favorite in the 1960s. Played Woodstock in 69, insiped generations of rock players and was considered the most technially proficient rock guitarist of the 1960s. Very humble guy too.

    • @johnbutz5631
      @johnbutz5631 6 місяців тому +4

      I agree, most of my favorites are on this list you made!

  • @floaty10
    @floaty10 6 місяців тому +38

    I would add Paco de Lucia, Michael schenker, Gary Moore, Robin Trower. I even believe Steve Howe and Al d Meola never made it on! Rolling Stone just embarrass themselves with this list.

    • @rembeadgc
      @rembeadgc 6 місяців тому +2

      On a list of 250... definitely Ralph Towner... also John Abercrombie.

    • @roblee7309
      @roblee7309 6 місяців тому +2

      Howe made it, somewhere in the mid-100's I believe. And yeah, Al DiMeola is a glaring oversight

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 6 місяців тому

      I'm tracking all the comments. We're now at 1741 guitar players who should be in the top 250. It's getting crowded but we might still be able to fit in a few more.

    • @offmyleg1
      @offmyleg1 6 місяців тому

      Michael Schenker !!!

  • @GS-vb3zn
    @GS-vb3zn 6 місяців тому +39

    Joe Pass. Beyond shocking that Pass isn't on their list.

    • @jimkangas4176
      @jimkangas4176 6 місяців тому +8

      This totally invalidates the list! He is the best jazz guy ever. And in the same category, Lenny Breau

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 6 місяців тому +3

      To not include Joe Pass just shows that Rolling Stone has no clue about music!

    • @ildarrrr2
      @ildarrrr2 6 місяців тому +2

      @@simonhodgetts6530 I wonder if they have Pat Martino Pat Metheny or Mike Stern)))

  • @Bkokane
    @Bkokane 6 місяців тому +36

    Ben Eunson is a glaring omission

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      Haha too kind, thanks!

    • @smitlag
      @smitlag 6 місяців тому

      Absolutely

  • @pjjmsn
    @pjjmsn 6 місяців тому +40

    A big vote for Bireli Lagrene. Definately one of the greatest jazz guitarsts of all time.

    • @lucagrieman3681
      @lucagrieman3681 6 місяців тому +3

      Dude, yes...swing and fusion giant.

    • @MichaelFischetti
      @MichaelFischetti 6 місяців тому +1

      Made the same comment on 2 other sites. My opinion, the greatest guitarist in the world today.

    • @pjjmsn
      @pjjmsn 6 місяців тому +3

      @@MichaelFischetti Absolutely, the most phenomenal improviser, and he has an absolutely massive vocabulary from which to draw from. I can't say enough about him.

    • @alexandremello6913
      @alexandremello6913 6 місяців тому +1

      Bireli is phenomenal.

  • @Jamsville
    @Jamsville 6 місяців тому +22

    The nicest, and simultaneously most savage burn of all time. 😂
    “I’m not sure that I can think of one person in this time, whether they’re a musician or otherwise, who gets terribly excited whenever Rolling Stone releases one of its new lists”

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, nobody cared, as can be seen from the total lack of video responses by musicians and music fans.

  • @johnfairweather9188
    @johnfairweather9188 6 місяців тому +11

    I photographed Stanley Jordan in 1993 as the official photographer for the Ottawa Jazzfest. He blew me away and put on an astounding display of virtuoso guitar playing. He seemed like a very quiet and thoughtful man when I spoke to him. He should definitely be on the list.

  • @leesnider4363
    @leesnider4363 6 місяців тому +15

    Terry Kath of Chicago NEVER gets mentioned, either on the Rolling Stone list or by those who critique it. He belongs in the top five.

  • @danielphillips7537
    @danielphillips7537 6 місяців тому +12

    Here's another 10 great guitarists snubbed by Rolling Stone off the top of my head: John Abercrombie, Kenny Burrell, Elvin Bishop Larry Coryell, Gary Duncan, Leo Kottke, Harvey Mandel, Steve Miller, Luther Tucker, and Henry Vestine.

  • @orlock20
    @orlock20 6 місяців тому +33

    Mine are:
    1. Joe Bonamassa. He has more number one blues albums than any blues artist and by a wide margin. In 2020 BB king had 25 albums on the blues charts while Joe Bonamassa had 25 number ones on the blues album chart from Billboard.
    2. Roy Clark. He brought flashy guitar playing to mainstream TV and was the first household-name guitar shredder.
    3. Charo. She was the face of Flamenco guitar for at least two decades and is still alive.
    4. Gary Moore. I'd say he updated the blues guitar from the sounds of BB King and Jimi Hendrix.

    • @travelingman9763
      @travelingman9763 6 місяців тому

      Add Tiny Tim's expertise on 4 string Geetar!

  • @heavenhelpus479
    @heavenhelpus479 6 місяців тому +13

    The glaring omissions that we saw after a quick scan: Terry Kath - he died at his peak at 27, just like Randy Rhoades. Jimmy Hendrix once said that Kath was the best player in the room after watching him live. Others omitted were George Benson, Roy Clark, and Al Dimeola.

    • @rpeter472
      @rpeter472 6 місяців тому +2

      Jimi Hendrix - not Jimmy Hendrix.

    • @colinbaker3916
      @colinbaker3916 6 місяців тому +1

      I agree about Terry Kath, but he was 31.

    • @heavenhelpus479
      @heavenhelpus479 6 місяців тому

      @@colinbaker3916 My bad.

  • @MetalheadNation
    @MetalheadNation 6 місяців тому +12

    Allan Holdsworth not being on The Rolling Stones 250 list is insane to me. Top 10, top 50, top 100, in those cases I could understand why a magazine like Rolling Stone might omit Holdsworth (though in my opinion he should be top 10 or top 5 on any list, and would be my #1 of all time personally). Beyond being an absolutely incredible and alien player, he is also one of the most innovative and influential electric guitarists ever. So many guitarists (and even musicians of other instruments) have used concepts and ideas that Holdsworth was inventing and pioneering 50 years ago, and continued to pioneer all throughout his career. A master of his craft, a genius, and the epitome of an artist.
    Jazz fusion guitarists (particularly electric fusion players) seem to really have been completely ignored. Guys like Guthrie, Bumblefoot, Gambale, Garsed, and so many more didn’t even crack the list. Though their music might not be known well compared to many of the guitarists on the list, the major influence they had on many other guitarists who DID make the list should at least give them a spot somewhere on here.
    I was also really shocked that Tosin made the list but Petrucci didn’t. I love both guitarists, but there almost definitely wouldn’t be Tosin without Petrucci, in the same way there almost definitely wouldn’t have been Petrucci without Lifeson.
    Overall, not a fan of the Rolling Stone list.

  • @basicsforbaroqueimprovisation
    @basicsforbaroqueimprovisation 6 місяців тому +8

    Some overlooked favorites : Ted Greene, Allan Holdsworth, Terje Rypdal, Tom Scholz, Robin Trower, George Van Eps, Philip Catherine.

    • @rembeadgc
      @rembeadgc 6 місяців тому +1

      John Abercrombie.

  • @zemlidrakona2915
    @zemlidrakona2915 6 місяців тому +18

    Yngwie wasn't there either. Whether you like his music or not, he was for sure influential in rock and especially metal. Also neither of the guys in Slayer were virtuosos, but if you had to put one on them on the list it should have been Hanneman. Go look at the writing credits. The majority of the music was written by Hanneman and like 100% of their classic songs were too.

    • @robert.m4676
      @robert.m4676 6 місяців тому

      It’s a travesty not having Malmsteen on the list as well as Roy Clark and Robin Trower. I can name several others but right off the bat those 3 come to mind.

  • @lrc9623c
    @lrc9623c 6 місяців тому +7

    I went to high school with Earl Klugh...he was brilliant and recorded with jazz great Yusef Lateef at age 16....oh yeah anybody else like Robin Trower?

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for sharing, Earl is one of my absolute favorites

  • @stevepittelli5911
    @stevepittelli5911 6 місяців тому +17

    So happy you brought up George Benson. Terry Kath and Trevor Rabin are also two major ones not mentioned nearly enough

    • @johnhoran9840
      @johnhoran9840 6 місяців тому +1

      If you haven't heard it, I highly recommend Trevor Rabin's new album 'Rio'.

    • @stevepittelli5911
      @stevepittelli5911 6 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@johnhoran9840I love it! I was so pumped when I saw it was coming out. I ordered the 2 LP + signed booklet too just to have. He’s been one of my top 5 favorite guitarists since I was a kid

    • @johnhoran9840
      @johnhoran9840 6 місяців тому

      I've always been a huge fan of 'Talk', and it sounds to me like the logical continuation of that sound. Gotta admit, there were a few moments I thought it would have been fun to hear Jon Anderson's voice.@@stevepittelli5911

    • @timcotton1782
      @timcotton1782 6 місяців тому +2

      Any top 50 list that doesn't include Terry Kath, whom Hendrix stated blew him away for talent, is just wrong.

    • @stevepittelli5911
      @stevepittelli5911 6 місяців тому

      @@timcotton1782 exactly! Makes you think who should really be #1…

  • @richardberesford3993
    @richardberesford3993 6 місяців тому +8

    What about Guthrie Govan and Bill Nelson. Two of my favourites.

  • @user-ri3gh6yb5k
    @user-ri3gh6yb5k 6 місяців тому +5

    In my estimation, that RS list contains more than a few guitarists who don’t belong on a top 250 guitarist list.

  • @Meemorp_
    @Meemorp_ 6 місяців тому +38

    Wasn't expecting this, but I think you do a great job at opinion/commentary videos like this!
    For virtuosity alone, I'd throw in Shawn Lane, Ted Greene, Lenny Breau, and Johnny Smith but I understand that cultural impact and relevance plays a factor in the curation of these lists. Still, seeing what they DID include leaves me a bit puzzled that they didn't include the names in your list!

    • @MichaelFischetti
      @MichaelFischetti 6 місяців тому +5

      Love Ted Green. Ted just never wanted the limelight so unless you're a guitar junkie, he just never gets any consideration. The man did what he loved, played and taught. He left us way too soon!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much for watching, Danny! I don't usually comment on this, but I thought this one was an interesting topic! 🧐

    • @ar9v
      @ar9v 6 місяців тому +4

      Lenny Breau..... what a guitarist.

    • @jarrilaurila
      @jarrilaurila 6 місяців тому

      What the hell man, you just listed all of my favourite guitarists! Ted is life!

    • @jarrilaurila
      @jarrilaurila 6 місяців тому +1

      @ar9v absolutely!

  • @bobparsonsartist564
    @bobparsonsartist564 6 місяців тому +2

    You, being about 50 years younger than I, pulled out guitarist after guitarist that are so much a part of my vocabulary....

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @user-dz3ie5me2t
    @user-dz3ie5me2t 6 місяців тому +23

    I'm glad you mentioned Emily Remler. Aside from her traditional jazz guitar chops, her newer compositions had great female sensibilities you rarely find in the male-dominate jazz guitar world. "Mocha Spice" is one of my favorite jazz guitar tunes of all time. She could have produced so much more.

    • @Snardbafulator
      @Snardbafulator 6 місяців тому +3

      Emily Remler is way too Berklee-school, ii-V-I for my personal tastes, but if you want female energy in a jazz guitar innovator, try Mary Halvorson.

    • @eddiepigg5333
      @eddiepigg5333 6 місяців тому +2

      What exactly are “female sensibilities” when it comes to guitar playing? This has never crossed my mind and I wonder if I am alone in this thinking.

    • @Snardbafulator
      @Snardbafulator 6 місяців тому

      @@eddiepigg5333 I dunno about "female sensibilities" either, but no question it took a special degree of guts to be a female jazz guitarist when Emily Remler was coming up. Two decades later, Mary Halvorson talks about being patronized and humiliated in her jazz theory class by her teacher.

    • @user-dz3ie5me2t
      @user-dz3ie5me2t 6 місяців тому

      @@eddiepigg5333 I just meant to say some of Emily's own compositions, such as "Mocha Spice" I mentioned above, have beautiful feminine feel. For instance, even though they are not jazz, the compositions of Kate Bush, Stevie Nicks, Carly Simon, Sarah McLaughlin, etc. definitely feel feminine to me, and I feel the same with Emily's compositions. And of course I love them all. If that has never crossed your mind, then I guess that's just a difference in personal perceptions, but I definitely don't think I am alone in this thinking.
      I never had any political or social agenda when I said what I said, and I'm not into twisting words either. Emily is one of my favorite guitar players of all time, I just appreciate her music.

  • @andreasjonsson5823
    @andreasjonsson5823 6 місяців тому +5

    Great discussion Ben, I would also love it if they added Toninho Horta, and maybe also Wolfgang Muthspiel

  • @ethanpispas4098
    @ethanpispas4098 6 місяців тому +8

    They don't have Paco De Lucia. A cultural icon of a whole country that has statues of him, and the most influential figure of the oldest, and arguably the toughest, guitar tradition. I mean, they have Rodrigo y Gabriela, but no Paco.

    • @surfrduede
      @surfrduede 6 місяців тому

      Bingo! Paco was a head scratcher for me too.

    • @arturojc6974
      @arturojc6974 6 місяців тому

      Yes, insane to include Gabriela and Rodrigo and not Paco de Lucia

  • @No.0.o.0
    @No.0.o.0 6 місяців тому

    Definitely would watch a part two.

  • @NickGranville
    @NickGranville 6 місяців тому +11

    Agree with your 10. Any list of the 250 greatest guitarists which doesn’t include Tommy Emmanuel, George Benson and Allan Holdsworth is a joke. There were many questionable inclusions too. The one good thing it’s done is opened things up for conversation and like you I think it’s possible that was their intention

    • @lastdaysguitar
      @lastdaysguitar 6 місяців тому +5

      The exclusion of Steve Howe is a disgrace as well, his guitar work with YES, and to a lessor degree ASIA, and GTR was super-influential and he was a prototype top shelf during the 70's and 80's for DOZENS of people who are on the list.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much for watching, Nick - and yes I agree!

    • @NickGranville
      @NickGranville 6 місяців тому +2

      @@lastdaysguitarexactly. Steve Howe is a legend and deserving of being on an list of guitar greats like this. Seems they dropped the ball with many great players being left off

  • @joselisboa5644
    @joselisboa5644 6 місяців тому +6

    Instead of extending the list, Rolling Stone should split the list into genres. That would do more justice to guitarists. Australian virtuosic classical guitarist John Williams deserves to be on a "Best Guitarists of All Time" list.

  • @snoopywalker1881
    @snoopywalker1881 6 місяців тому +13

    Yup you got it right….Quite impressed you highlighted Hiram Bullock…A lightening rod of creativity and a swell guy. Alan Holdsworth, Jay Graden, Lee Ridenhour, Michael Landau, TOmmy Emanuel, Brent Mason . A list without these guys is not a list

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      Love Hiram's playing, and everyone else you mentioned too!

    • @JeremyHawkerGuitarStudio1
      @JeremyHawkerGuitarStudio1 6 місяців тому +3

      Alan Holdsworth was an alien that arrived from another planet.

    • @ErikShen2907
      @ErikShen2907 22 дні тому +1

      TY TY TY for mentioning Hiram Bullock!!! HE was a monster

  • @AdamLevyGuitarTips
    @AdamLevyGuitarTips 6 місяців тому +10

    Thanks for including Hiram Bullock. A tremendous player!

    • @tomcoryell
      @tomcoryell 6 місяців тому

      Hiram was phenomenal wasn’t he?

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for watching, Adam! Hiram is one of my absolute favorites

  • @bluenoise153
    @bluenoise153 6 місяців тому +1

    I couldn't look at the RS list, just because I knew it would disappoint me, but I had no idea how much! These omissions are jaw-dropping, unbelievable, and it's great that you are pointing them out here. Dream big!

  • @josephvotta6698
    @josephvotta6698 6 місяців тому

    What a great episode!! Thanks, Ben!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @JimmyRJump
    @JimmyRJump 6 місяців тому +4

    Besides people like Gary Moore, Ted Nugent, Michael Schenker, Ulli Roth, I'd add Estas Tonne to the list. And is Alvin Lee on their list?

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 6 місяців тому +2

      Politics would keep “Uncle Ted” off the list. I doubt he cares.

  • @derekcummins9088
    @derekcummins9088 6 місяців тому +4

    Ben, how about Joe Pass' omission, Tommy Emmanual & Guthrie Govan, and a nod to Mateo Mancuso wouldn't have gone amiss

  • @MrThompat1971
    @MrThompat1971 6 місяців тому +8

    Emily Remler was stunning. So pleased that she made your list. Astonishing

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely, love Emily's playing. Thanks for watching!

    • @dahag2996
      @dahag2996 6 місяців тому +1

      Lovely mention.
      She was a fantastic musician.
      Better than most on the RS list.

  • @flexeos
    @flexeos 6 місяців тому +8

    Guthrie Govan is not there?? The other problem is that the list is with only very few exceptions made of English speaking guitarists! what about Bireli Lagrene or Sylvain Luc?

  • @daijones101
    @daijones101 6 місяців тому +7

    Ernest Ranglin is a glaring omission. The father of reggae and ska music. Also a killer jazz player. Below the bass line is a must.

    • @RWulff007
      @RWulff007 6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for including him, just did myself. Such a well rounded melodic player.

  • @lightningrt434
    @lightningrt434 6 місяців тому +4

    Terry Kath and Gary Moore are my two.

  • @raymundo5044
    @raymundo5044 6 місяців тому

    Great work

  • @jprkzoo3463
    @jprkzoo3463 6 місяців тому +7

    NO Alan Holdsworth, Robben Ford, Guthrie G., John Petrucci, Paul Gilbert, and too many to list is pretty mind blowing.

  • @user-ii5mh9li6l
    @user-ii5mh9li6l 6 місяців тому +3

    You spoke very well for the jazz side of things.. how about Michael Schenker? Andres Segovia? Hank Marvin?

  • @jjames6990
    @jjames6990 6 місяців тому +5

    Don't forget about Buckethead! Devin Townsend should have been on there too.

  • @mikebrown9850
    @mikebrown9850 6 місяців тому +8

    Few guitarists reinvented their instrument like Michael Hedges. I haven’t seen him mentioned in any of the omitted lists. He inspired a new generation of players like very few have. I’ll add Frank Marino to the omitted list as well.

    • @dahag2996
      @dahag2996 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes! Completely baffled that Michael Hedges didn't make the list...as well as Phil Keaggy.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Місяць тому

      Michael Hedges was brilliant!!

  • @markblue5375
    @markblue5375 6 місяців тому +2

    ULI Jon Roth , Frank Marino , Rick Derringer , Paul Quinn , Graham Oliver , Huw Lloyd Langton , Dave Brock , Robin Trower , Buck Dharma , Rod "the bottle" Price

  • @jonnyb2532
    @jonnyb2532 6 місяців тому +5

    Rolling Stone is on a par with People as an authority on guitarists.

  • @LydianLunch
    @LydianLunch 6 місяців тому +6

    Like you with Kevin Eubanks, I used to watch Letterman just to hear Hiram Bullock! He was one of the first, if not the first, guitarist I heard mixing a Hendrix influenced with the altered scale. In the 1980s there was no one who sounded like this. I actually got tickets to see the Letterman show taped just to see the band. And it was incredible. I remember it clearly, though it was 40 years ago!

    • @derkommissar785
      @derkommissar785 6 місяців тому +1

      Check out Eubanks with Branford Marsalis' X-men, a one-off opening for The Dead

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      Fantastic story, thank you so much for sharing!

  • @user-ru4sw1pg3s
    @user-ru4sw1pg3s 6 місяців тому

    Really appreciated your measured responses. Two that I really enjoy that were skipped are: Mark Lettieri, and Nina Gerber...but as Miles said... Thanks

  • @bobjanetmart506
    @bobjanetmart506 6 місяців тому +1

    Glad you mentioned Hiram Bullock. He's a legend.

  • @tristanmccoppin5761
    @tristanmccoppin5761 6 місяців тому +5

    Ben Eunson on list!

  • @raymundo5044
    @raymundo5044 6 місяців тому +5

    Larry Corryell

    • @pjjmsn
      @pjjmsn 6 місяців тому +1

      I love the album he did with Emily Remler.

  • @luminry
    @luminry 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you acknowledging George Benson and Earl Klugh. My favourite guitarist

  • @victorb6293
    @victorb6293 6 місяців тому +2

    Commendable discussion Ben. Your suggestions all have great merit. So glad you mentioned the great Earl Klugh and late Emily Remler. Tommy Emmanuel and George Benson should be in the top 10 without any doubt. Liked your mention of Brett Garsed. Perhaps Ian Moss and Frank Gambale honourable mentions also? Well done. Cheers.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  5 місяців тому

      Thanks so much, Victor! I really appreciate it

  • @guillaumeledique3401
    @guillaumeledique3401 6 місяців тому +5

    I recall hearing Sting's version of Little Wing the very first time, and then this insane guitar solo greeted me... Hiram Bullock was a Master Guitarist, and his omission, as well as so many other great Masters from the Rolling Stone 250 list just goes to show that sometimes the Art is important, the other times the business is--watch them republish the list in about a month...

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      Hiram's solo on "Little Wing" is legendary

    • @eccehomer8182
      @eccehomer8182 6 місяців тому

      I actually think it’s better than Jimi’s.
      As for R/S… they’ll be quite happy… the outrage will generate plenty of clicks!
      No Benson, Holdsworth, Malmsteen, Frampton, Moore is unbelievable! I personally know better guitarists than many on that list.

    • @aMan-or9ij
      @aMan-or9ij 6 місяців тому

      I'd give your comment a hundred thumbs up, if I could. Love Bullock's playing on that track, as I do Kenwood Dennard's.

  • @JoeSmith-ok5qu
    @JoeSmith-ok5qu 6 місяців тому +3

    Dude your list is spot on,,Klugh and Benson should have been on any list of the best guitarists ever, Ford as well. Klugh and Benson are on another level. You might not like the style but the talent is other wordly.

  • @dankelly7712
    @dankelly7712 6 місяців тому +4

    Two of the most important guitarists ever:
    Tony Rice and Paco De Lucia
    Giants beyond measure

    • @jokermaan1
      @jokermaan1 6 місяців тому

      Indeed one of the guitarists on the list, Molly Tuttle, was, by her own admission, greatly influenced by Tony Rice.

    • @drothberg3
      @drothberg3 6 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. In the realm of bluegrass, for one, including Molly Tuttle without including Tony Rice is strange. Bryan Sutton is also not on there.

    • @joecoffey4199
      @joecoffey4199 6 місяців тому

      Yeah. Leaving off Tony Rice just shows a lack of respect to the bluegrass genre.

  • @tomminpiirtamo6366
    @tomminpiirtamo6366 6 місяців тому

    Thanks❤

  • @andreaslundell7807
    @andreaslundell7807 6 місяців тому +3

    So many that shoud be on the list, some mentioned here. To ad some Yngwie Malmsteen and Terry Kath.

  • @donstratton6343
    @donstratton6343 6 місяців тому +3

    Andy Powell and ted Turner, Wishbone Ash, harmony dual lead guitars doing much more than call and respond. WA inspired Metallica ... WA themselves were inspired by the lead guitars of Peter Green (who was on the list)/Danny Kirwan (who was not).
    While not a dual lead guitar, try the track Throw Down the Sword then the dual leads on Phoenix, Persephone, to name but a few. The albums Wishbone and Argus, if you have the time, are well worth a listen.

  • @andrewz4537
    @andrewz4537 6 місяців тому

    Someone not only overlooked by RS but also all the comments I had the patience/endurance to go through, and your litany is Sonny Landreth. What the heck?!

  • @richardmuskett931
    @richardmuskett931 6 місяців тому

    Freddie White ..... two gorgeous solos on "long distance runner ".
    Michael Chapdelaine ..... " she's leaving home " , "heard it through the grapevine".
    Emil Ernebro ....... "desperado" , "Bridge over troubled water" .
    Kent Nishimura ..... "careless whisper" .

  • @raymundo5044
    @raymundo5044 6 місяців тому +5

    Check it out Ben .... Also a guy named Jan Akkermam...a band named Focus...

    • @johnbutz5631
      @johnbutz5631 6 місяців тому +2

      Jan shredded before anyone had heard of shredding! Hocus Pocus is still brilliant after over 50 years.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      "Sylvia" by Focus was on the first songs I learned on guitar, love Jan's playing

  • @lucagrieman3681
    @lucagrieman3681 6 місяців тому +5

    I mean, Joe Pass, Frank Gambale, Shawn Lane, Guthrie Govan, and Greg Howe I feel should have been on here.

    • @realpool
      @realpool 6 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely! Tony MacAlpine too!

    • @lucagrieman3681
      @lucagrieman3681 6 місяців тому

      @@realpool I just found out about his work with Dennis Chambers in CAB. So sick.

  • @seankm6nfo990
    @seankm6nfo990 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for remembering Emily Remler . Nice job.

  • @mooseknuckle8946
    @mooseknuckle8946 6 місяців тому +2

    My contributions: Steve Morse, Michael Hedges, Lenny Breau, Tommy Tedesco and Trey Anastasio

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      All great choices - Michael Hedges was just brilliant. All the names you listed should be there

  • @chrisi.2117
    @chrisi.2117 6 місяців тому +3

    Nice list of omissions. Additional egregious omissions include Frank Marino, Michael Schenker, Eliot Easton, John Sykes, Jake E. Lee, George Lynch and Warren DiMartini.

  • @chantduplantier9871
    @chantduplantier9871 6 місяців тому +4

    The omission of George Benson is the worst one for me. 60 year career, 10 Grammys, topping the pop charts multiple times, and a huge influence on countless jazz players worldwide.
    I’m terms of younger artists, how does Eric Gales not make the list, but H.E.R. does? She’s great, but Eric is other-worldly and has been since the early 90s. Brent Mason? Brad Paisley? Vince Gill? Keith Urban? These guys are insane players and have pop success. The list got some right, but it really missed on so many great players. I think history counts. Doing it for a few years is one thing. Sustaining relevance for decades is practically impossible and those that do it deserve the most respect. I LOVE Kingfish, but a 24 year old with two albums instead of George Benson? I can’t understand the logic.

  • @jasonedmonson5610
    @jasonedmonson5610 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm completely with you Ben! George Benson was the first legend who came to mind when I suffered through the list. Opposite ends of the spectrum but what about Joe Pass and Yngwie Malmsteen?

  • @trapperkcmo3460
    @trapperkcmo3460 6 місяців тому +2

    yes, RS is klughless. love that guy

  • @jeffwilliams6681
    @jeffwilliams6681 6 місяців тому +3

    Nothing is less credible than any contemporary Rolling Stone List. SR is surviving on the fumes of past glory.

  • @gj8683
    @gj8683 6 місяців тому +5

    Rolling Stone might have some interesting information worth reading but, like the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame, who they select as deserving or among the greatest doesn't really matter that much. Your commentary shows that. Thanks for being a resource for younger musicians who might not otherwise have heard of Allan Holdsworth, George Benson, etc.

    • @rjb7569
      @rjb7569 6 місяців тому +1

      You are certainly correct about the R and R HOF. It's comical some of the "rockers" they've inducted, and distasteful who they've left out or the deserving who waited so long for inclusion.

  • @patcaploe7250
    @patcaploe7250 6 місяців тому +2

    Ben, you nailed it bro! When I saw the thumbnail with pictures of Benson and Holdsworth, I was like, "Surely they made cut, he must be about to say the names on the list..." It's inconceivable that all those guitarists on your 10 best that were left out, and leaves me wondering, "Who are these people that make up that list of 250? And what influences did they draw from?" Or even, "Were there people who helped compile the list that don't even play guitar?" I love the "what about..." part at the end of the video. I would've included young player Mateo Mancuso. OMG. It is my estimation that music is a buffet, nobody has it all, but just like great bakers can make A M A Z I N G things that the average baker can't, there are exceptional guitarists that I believe are truly gifted in addition to being hard, hard workers. I wonder, did they leave Frank Gambale off of that list?

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for sharing, Pat. And yes, Frank was not on the list...

    • @patcaploe7250
      @patcaploe7250 6 місяців тому

      Pickin my jaw up off the floor. Confirmation: I don't read Rolling Stone@@beneunson

  • @visionalert
    @visionalert 6 місяців тому

    Good list. I had a friend who took lessons from Emily Remler, great to hear her get some recognition. Holdsworth is my favorite, criminal omission. I would add Uli Roth, Shawn Lane, Michael Schenker, Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, Frank Gambale, Steve Morse, Michael Hedges, Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Greg Howe, Marty Friedman, Dave Mustaine, Vinnie Moore, Tony MacAlpine, Yngwie Malmsteen, Mike Stern, Joe Pass, Scott Henderson, Gary Moore, Matteo Mancuso, Chris Poland, Ron Jarzombeck, etc.

    • @fatfredthe28th
      @fatfredthe28th 6 місяців тому

      I'd guess someone like Matteo Mancuso didn't make it is because he's so young and relatively unknown compared to others. His playing is other worldly and should definitely make future lists. But it's Rolling Stone and they leave off guys like Tommy Emmanuel and Allan Holdsworth while including guys like James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett at 23. What a fucking joke.

  • @ericjenkins2737
    @ericjenkins2737 6 місяців тому +4

    Unless I missed it, you named off a ton of people but not Al Di Meola nor Yngwie Malmsteen.

  • @freespiritsguitar2871
    @freespiritsguitar2871 6 місяців тому +3

    No one mentions Jim Hall?...incomprehensible to me

  • @ShineDawg
    @ShineDawg 6 місяців тому

    Bravo, best take on this issue.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @RatzoBHarris
    @RatzoBHarris 6 місяців тому

    Stunning!

  • @michaelhoffman176
    @michaelhoffman176 6 місяців тому +6

    Rolling Stone has just "bested" themselves into the garbage bin where they belong.

  • @LPerezDancer
    @LPerezDancer 6 місяців тому +3

    Holdsworth and Benson?! wow... just wow

  • @johnschrader8363
    @johnschrader8363 6 місяців тому +2

    Mike Oldfield is missing :c. he's such an underrated guitarist

  • @RonHallKungFuBro
    @RonHallKungFuBro 6 місяців тому

    Salute to you for acknowledging one of the greatest guitarists of all time that goes far to often unmentioned, the great Kevin Eubanks.

  • @Springer12865
    @Springer12865 6 місяців тому +6

    Imagine a list that includes , Gary Moore, Michael Schenker , Robin Trower . Bill Nelson , absolutely on my list. Way too many to mention. 🎸⚡

    • @realpool
      @realpool 6 місяців тому +1

      Michael Schenker's sense of melody is brilliant. I can't believe he and Gary Moore aren't on the list. I also think Uli Roth deserves to be in the top 50 as well.

    • @filipstefanovski155
      @filipstefanovski155 6 місяців тому +1

      @@realpool Uli is so underrated he doesn't even get mentioned here let alone Rolling Stone's list. The man was a machine.

    • @seandowning5918
      @seandowning5918 6 місяців тому

      @@realpool couldn't agree more!

  • @user-zq1tp4zu5j
    @user-zq1tp4zu5j 6 місяців тому +3

    Man, Emily Remler is a top 10 guitarist

  • @vince3586
    @vince3586 6 місяців тому +1

    Great choices. Seems like a lot of jazz musicians were overlooked. How could Julian Lage not be on this list?

  • @victormahtapene2573
    @victormahtapene2573 6 місяців тому +1

    They should’ve included you Ben. I mean your improvisation skills and playing in general is amazing! Super jazzy, super crispy, super amazing

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Місяць тому

      I really appreciate it, thank you!

  • @tonyhills2112
    @tonyhills2112 6 місяців тому +6

    No Segovia? Yeah just as you said the whole thing was released to create controversy. And they sure succeeded at that!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +2

      You're right, Segovia is yet another stunning omission

    • @tonyhills2112
      @tonyhills2112 6 місяців тому

      @@beneunson Yeah you gotta wonder what their criteria was. Apparently popularity & inclusivity far outweighed talent & advancement of the instrument (regardless of genre).

  • @matthewgoldberg1461
    @matthewgoldberg1461 6 місяців тому +6

    Joe Pass - greatest jazz guitarist ever. Tommy Emmanuel - greatest acoustic guitarist ever

  • @davidmerrittjacovino
    @davidmerrittjacovino 6 місяців тому

    Thank you,an eye-opening experience. I’m glad I recognized 5 of the 10 but more importantly, now I can look up and explore the rest. The reason why Rolling Stone didn’t get this right is because they don’t have a person like you on their staff which they should, but they won’t because they’re not Serious about music they’re only trying to win a popularity contest, which unfortunately or maybe fortunately they’re failing at.

  • @elkeism
    @elkeism 6 місяців тому

    Ironically Ben was the first guitarist I thought of when seeing videos protesting RS's list. :)

  • @Wizardofgosz
    @Wizardofgosz 6 місяців тому +2

    Steve Morse is a gigantic omission. He only won Guitar Player Magazine's "Best Overall Guitarist" so many years in a row they had to ban him from the list, because he would have kept winning.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Agreed. Steve is legendary

  • @Stratocus
    @Stratocus 6 місяців тому +3

    Robin Trower?

  • @alexanderpotts8425
    @alexanderpotts8425 6 місяців тому +1

    Stellar list, esp. including Kevin Eubanks! I walked away from that top 250 thinking "well, at least Grant Green was on it..."

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      Love Kevin's playing. Was glad to see Grant Green on the list

  • @stereoroid
    @stereoroid 6 місяців тому +2

    I also wonder where are the classical virtuosi such as Julian Bream or Andrés Segovia, or even Tarrega before them.

  • @kirkhunter146
    @kirkhunter146 6 місяців тому +3

    It doesn't matter, Rolling Stone magazine is only really read in the USA, it's not in shops in UK or most of Europe. No one takes it seriously, especially since it featured hip hop artists on its covers

    • @bjr4567
      @bjr4567 6 місяців тому +2

      I got news for you. RS is more laughed at across the USA than anywhere else.

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 6 місяців тому +3

    Joe Pass not being on there is bad enough, but Allan Holdsworth?! That's like excluding Dali from a list of greatest 20th century painters.

  • @TSM-908
    @TSM-908 5 місяців тому +1

    Paul Kossoff (Free), Tommy Bolin (Solo & Deep Purple), Kenny Wayne Shepard (his own band), Jonny Lang( solo) , Alvin Lee Ten Years After), Stan Webb (Chicken Shack), Mick Ralphs (Bad Company & Mott the Hoople), Dan Auerbach (Black Keys), Henry Vestine (Canned Heat), Chris Rea (solo), Denny Laine (The Moody Blues & Wings), Tom Scholz & Brad Delp (Boston), Jeff Lynne & Roy Wood (ELO), Jeff Healey ( own band), Hank Marvin (Shadows), Mike Oldfield (solo), Pat Travers ( own band), Peter Frampton (solo), Kim Simmonds (Savoy Brown), Stanley Jordan (solo jazz), Andy Powell & Ted Turner (Wishbone Ash). Finally Trevor Rabin (Yes & solo) and John Wetton (many bands) - you could even throw in Australian blues playing Dave Hole, great sound but blues with an Aussie twist are lyrically questionable.

  • @mischadickerhof5375
    @mischadickerhof5375 6 місяців тому +1

    Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Brian Setzer, ivan Julian, Jonny Greenwood, Adrian Utley, Oscar Alemán, Eddie Lang, Kenny Burell, Billy Bauer....

  • @skipklauber1162
    @skipklauber1162 6 місяців тому +5

    The omission of Holdsworth was pretty shocking. The pandering with Sister Rosetta or Joni Mitchell is what one expects from RS Mag. I do need to give them props for putting John Cipollina back on their lists. He was a perennial into the late 1990’s but then disappeared. Cipollina’s playing on the first 2 or 3 Quicksilver albums was incredibly influential. I know for a fact guitarists for about a decade would listen to the Happy Trails album and work on trying to play like Cipollina. Oh, and Richard Thompson is about 25-30 spots too low. He’s one of the few masters on both electric and acoustic.

    • @countdebleauchamp
      @countdebleauchamp 6 місяців тому +1

      It's been so long since I've seen or listened to Thompson I had forgotten that versatility.

    • @IslandPink
      @IslandPink 6 місяців тому +4

      'Pandering' with Joni Mitchell ?

    • @skipklauber1162
      @skipklauber1162 6 місяців тому

      @@IslandPink Yep. Pandering

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 6 місяців тому +3

      No, Joni Mitchell belongs on the list, her use of alternate tunings is quite extensive and very creative. Yes she is a writer first.

    • @skipklauber1162
      @skipklauber1162 6 місяців тому

      Even if she belongs on the list it is First Degree Pandering to rank her above, eg, Mick Ronson or Ritchie Blackmore, just to give two examples. RS Mag is a crap publication that needs to be buried for amongst other things Mr Wenner’s four decade jihad against Arthur Lee and Love@@Darrylizer1

  • @pjjmsn
    @pjjmsn 6 місяців тому +4

    I agree with your 10 additions, Ben. Paco de Lucia was also not on the list, nor was Al Dimeola. I also agree with you that the list is first and foremost designed to create outrage. Describing Sister Rosetta Tharpe as a "sexually fluid black woman" and asserting that there have only been 5 better guitar players than her, in all of history, tells you from which ideology this dishonest list has been spawened. Virtually every guitarist I know holds Holdsworth is the absolute highest of esteem. So I feel like his omission was an intentional jab at the serious improvisational jazz and fusion guitar community. Same goes for the inclusion of Tharp as the 6th greatest guitarist of all time. The truth is I am a guitar freak, and I have never heard of her. Maybe I am unusual in that regard, but I don't think so. And, personally, I would put you on that list over many of the musicians on there as well.

    • @Hadri_ART
      @Hadri_ART 6 місяців тому

      Agreed

    • @jokermaan1
      @jokermaan1 6 місяців тому

      Sister Rosetta Tharpe was one of - if not the - first female electric blues players. How she rates as an all time great player is another thing.

    • @pjjmsn
      @pjjmsn 6 місяців тому

      @@jokermaan1 According to Rolling Stone, she blows away everybody in the world except Hendrix, Page, and 3 other guys. This list is an example of the "war on merit" that is going on. It doesn't so much matter what level of proficiency you have obtained on the instrument, it only matters what group you apparently represent. It is a list heavily influenced by politics, IMO.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for watching!

  • @jujjeelf309
    @jujjeelf309 5 місяців тому

    I would like to mention a Swedish guitarist, Janne Schaffer, and a great album of his: ”Earmeal”. I have enjoyed listening to this album now and then, ever since it came out in 1978. You will not be bored!