Production Drilling in the Flex CNC

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2023
  • The welding shop had a large stack of 3x3 angle iron that needed 5/16" holes machined in every piece. We set up the @FlexMachineTools G20-04 cnc mill to tackle this job and knocked it out in a day. The Flex performed great for this job!
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  • @inkman996
    @inkman996 9 місяців тому +11

    I tell ya, I am shocked that he has not somehow turned this into at least a three part series.

    • @colinfahidi9983
      @colinfahidi9983 9 місяців тому +4

      I was hoping for a 5 part job. I can't get enough of Abom.

  • @dontlitethat
    @dontlitethat 9 місяців тому +8

    Finally a hole that you did not chamfer… I’m writing this one on the calendar!

  • @thomasrahm
    @thomasrahm 9 місяців тому +8

    Really like the mix of manual and cnc on this channel. Great stuff!

  • @Emu0181
    @Emu0181 9 місяців тому +16

    The machine seems a bit of overkill for this job, but having done similar jobs with a hand drill and measuring tape, a real time and sanity saver for that quantity. Nice to see the flex in use

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 9 місяців тому +2

      Hope the guys in the field take as much care setting out the framing!

  • @JohnSmith-dp2jd
    @JohnSmith-dp2jd 9 місяців тому +9

    I doubt it'll be an issue with drilling angle iron, but for through spindle coolant on a drill like that, you ideally want a sealed collet or you're not getting the full pressure down at the cutting edge. It takes the path of least resistance, so it'll go through the splits in the collet, not down the tiny little holes in the drill.
    For shallow holes in mild steel that will clear chips out just fine, but something to keep in mind if you want to use it for deeper drilling in anything like stainless.

  • @dbriggs1689
    @dbriggs1689 9 місяців тому +5

    It nice seeing those machines work.

  • @stevebumstead9840
    @stevebumstead9840 9 місяців тому +5

    Nice to see some production work on that monster.😃

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 9 місяців тому +14

    That extra 9 seconds is worth it vs. buying replacement drill bits.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 9 місяців тому +4

    Very nice Adam.
    I think that Flex machine will turn out to be a big asset.
    Thanks for sharing the process. 👍👍

  • @jonathanzellner906
    @jonathanzellner906 9 місяців тому +10

    I liked the video, and respect you doing what you need to as a business, but I miss the old school one off parts. There are a dozen cnc channels out there.

  • @hibiki54
    @hibiki54 9 місяців тому +7

    That FlexCNC is badass now that we see what it can do for a small job shop. If I owned a welding/fab shop I would immediately invest in one of these.

    • @zacharymihlrad1045
      @zacharymihlrad1045 9 місяців тому +7

      There’s a lot more a small job shop can do with $300k and 300 square feet of floor space.

    • @Rimrock300
      @Rimrock300 9 місяців тому +2

      @@zacharymihlrad1045 A shop set up for creating video content, having sponsorship, just have to run some demos now and then. An ordinary job shop needs to run the machines full day, and there is alot one can get done with 300K and 300 sqf for sure.

  • @hasletjoe5984
    @hasletjoe5984 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Adam! Great to see a different project in the shop all the time!

  • @amalfi460
    @amalfi460 9 місяців тому +7

    Each hole took less than a half second, amazing speed

  • @workaholicada319
    @workaholicada319 9 місяців тому +2

    I couldn't be happier to see you using Flex in production. Hope your business continues to develop and benefit

  • @hcloud
    @hcloud 9 місяців тому +4

    There are sealed off er collets ment for through coolant drills, so that the stuff only comes from where it should.

  • @brianmoore1164
    @brianmoore1164 9 місяців тому +1

    You stayed so calm when the bit broke. Nicely done. I would have spoken to it using my special words.

  • @karlmckinnell2635
    @karlmckinnell2635 9 місяців тому +2

    Looking forward to seeing more collaborations with the welding shop, some beams and tubing 😊. Machine seems well suited to fabrication work.

  • @ronnydowdy7432
    @ronnydowdy7432 9 місяців тому +2

    I am glad you got help quickly. The machine is nice.
    Great job.

  • @waikanaebeach
    @waikanaebeach 9 місяців тому +3

    Good to see you using the Flex on a production job. Keeps the business going and the investment earning

  • @hubbsllc
    @hubbsllc 9 місяців тому +3

    This job just shows the potential! It’s amazing.

  • @patmcnally6
    @patmcnally6 9 місяців тому +4

    Adam your Learning curve is getting better 😊

  • @terryjennings2356
    @terryjennings2356 9 місяців тому +7

    To take full advantage of the through coolant tools, you need to run them in a sealed collet.

  • @PhotoArtBrussels
    @PhotoArtBrussels 9 місяців тому +5

    Great to see you move to production runs. It must be quite a change from the manual machining. I read some people come with a bit harsh comments. I find it is great you have the opportunity to invest in your training and future. Adding CNC to your precision manual machining will enable you to accept more work, hone your skills and grow.
    Glad to see the Flex in action. Step by step you'll get the CNC in your fingers, build your confidence and speed to program and setup work.

  • @DrunkenBobDole
    @DrunkenBobDole 9 місяців тому +7

    Having a thru coolant drill is great but you need a sealed collet to use them properly, most of the coolant is lost and you don't want to rely on it when deep drilling. On the other side, thru coolant with an unsealed collet can be very useful for endmills and solid drills.

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP 9 місяців тому +3

    Well done Adam, nice machine.

  • @helicopterjohns
    @helicopterjohns 9 місяців тому +2

    Like that smile on your face. The real nice thing about CNC is that the real work is doing the programming and setup. You can make 1, 100, or 1000 pieces and they will all be accurate to specifications.
    I enjoy the design and programming. Running the machine can become boring on long production runs.
    😊

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 9 місяців тому +1

    Congratulatios,Adam.Very well done.Thank you.

  • @ronaldmeyn2618
    @ronaldmeyn2618 9 місяців тому +5

    That machine is badass

  • @spawn2228
    @spawn2228 9 місяців тому +6

    Highly recommend sealed collets for through spindle coolant. Game changer

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball 9 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed…great discussion/demonstration/video production

  • @cncit
    @cncit 9 місяців тому +3

    Dormer tools are always really nice, I've used them for years, never a problem with the quality.

  • @garychaiken808
    @garychaiken808 9 місяців тому

    Impressive. Good job. Thank you 😊

  • @richardsvensson5154
    @richardsvensson5154 9 місяців тому +1

    That's just like punching a hole through paper.
    Nice to see Flex CNC doing it's thing.

  • @havenisse2009
    @havenisse2009 9 місяців тому +2

    Man, if a fly were to leave a footprint on one of your vices you'd spot it. Amazing precision. Interesting video.

  • @gislemark79
    @gislemark79 9 місяців тому +7

    To save more time, make it go to home in both Z and X in the same operation.

  • @thealchemist5376
    @thealchemist5376 9 місяців тому +1

    Love your work Adam!

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
    @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing the cnc

  • @russtuff
    @russtuff 9 місяців тому +2

    That machine is killer.

  • @EspenMolven
    @EspenMolven 9 місяців тому +5

    Nice!
    You could set up a line laser at z-level to be able to spot those off-height parts.

  • @josephweaver7140
    @josephweaver7140 9 місяців тому +3

    Another 4 vices & you could run 4 pieces at a time. Maximize the abilities of the Flex!!

  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret 9 місяців тому +1

    Good job, great use for the newish machine

  • @harrihavulo
    @harrihavulo 9 місяців тому +6

    To get the most advantage of the through coolant tooling, you should get yourself some sealed ER collets.
    Dormer is a really quality brand :)

  • @juangarza7732
    @juangarza7732 9 місяців тому +1

    As always great content

  • @andrewjmcgee
    @andrewjmcgee 9 місяців тому +2

    outstanding!!

  • @henrymorgan3982
    @henrymorgan3982 9 місяців тому +1

    Great machine. Hope you get more production jobs! Great class!

  • @frfrpr
    @frfrpr 9 місяців тому +4

    Impressive machine. Lots of responsibility in managing the equipment. Positive end result for all involved. 👍

  • @rustyshackleford928
    @rustyshackleford928 9 місяців тому +2

    Good stuff Adam.

  • @floodo1
    @floodo1 9 місяців тому

    It must be a real pleasure to watch the heft of that big ol gantry sliding around precisely controlled by the computer and the laser calibration. What a sight!

  • @anklebiterwoodworks2818
    @anklebiterwoodworks2818 9 місяців тому +4

    I am so jealous of your CNC. I built my 48"x48" CNC router myself and upgraded as well, but...just looking at your CNC, my wallet in my back pocket just keeps kicking my rear and reminding me I work for a living. Doesn't matter how heavily I sit on it to shut it up. LOL! LOVE the BIG machines. ETA: when that carbide drill bit went to work...OMG! Like a hot knife through butter.

    • @jerrylondon2388
      @jerrylondon2388 9 місяців тому +1

      You are years beyond Abom. You have an understanding that he will never have. And as a result when you graduate to larger, more powerful equipment you will be productive right out of the gate. I doubt if after months of training, and more than a year of hands on, you would struggle drilling a few holes. Congrats on your initiative!

  • @clintchapman4319
    @clintchapman4319 9 місяців тому

    That's some milling machine you have there! That's huuuuuge!

  • @jadesluv
    @jadesluv 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice Adam, very nice!

  • @lonniebrock3282
    @lonniebrock3282 9 місяців тому +3

    Adam I think the word is getting out about your next step up to fabrication jobs you might get busier than what you want but that's what you have been setting your shop up for and I would say that's great for your future endeavors congratulations in advance great business thinking

    • @colinfahidi9983
      @colinfahidi9983 9 місяців тому +2

      It was set up for video production.

  • @Musicalbullet
    @Musicalbullet 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video! I would suggest some coolant thru sealed collets. That way no coolant pressure will be wasted spraying through the splits in the collets, and directed out the end of the tool.👍🏻

  • @caploader111
    @caploader111 9 місяців тому +2

    Showing how square those vises were was impressive, but then you went back the other way you were just FLEXING.

  • @clarenceburton9654
    @clarenceburton9654 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome 😎 job , keep on machining !!!! Lol 😮

  • @ripcordres
    @ripcordres 9 місяців тому +3

    That is quick, indeed

  • @robertkessell
    @robertkessell 9 місяців тому +5

    Cool video. Only thing I could suggest so you have actual coolant through your drill and not through the collet around the drill is different collets. They make collets that will stop the coolant from going through them and force the coolant through your tool. I have run them before and they work really nice.

    • @Zorxyable
      @Zorxyable 9 місяців тому +2

      Or just use a heat shrink tool holder.

  • @AlmostMachining
    @AlmostMachining 9 місяців тому

    Nice work Adam! Good to see the shop doing exactly what you set out to do with it. No you dont need full coolant through the tool. Great setup and learning about work piece interference.

  • @carlbyington5185
    @carlbyington5185 9 місяців тому +3

    BUTTER !!

  • @oldmelodie1003
    @oldmelodie1003 9 місяців тому +15

    Hi Adam, Please do not use a collet chuck with solid carbide drills with internal cooling. Almost all of the coolant is lost through the collet and the required coolant pressure cannot be achieved. You have an induction device. Clamp the drill in a shrink mount. I work on a Giddings and Lewis boring mill myself and know what I'm talking about.
    greetings from Germany
    Paul

    • @SUMOCAT86
      @SUMOCAT86 9 місяців тому +8

      Or use a sealed collet or a nut with a seal.

    • @oldmelodie1003
      @oldmelodie1003 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@SUMOCAT86correct 👍

    • @osgeld
      @osgeld 9 місяців тому +7

      yea he has a induction device for heat fit tooling, it was one of his hour long advertisements a few month ago which has never seen the light of day since

    • @ScottPankhurst
      @ScottPankhurst 9 місяців тому +4

      @@osgeld other paid content to push out, presumably.

  • @DownToNerd
    @DownToNerd 9 місяців тому +2

    i don't know if your flex CNC table is large enough but what the factory used to do where i worked jobs like this was having two setups doing the same job.
    This allowed us to change one side while the other was going trough the program and vice versa.
    Depending on the size of the production run you can save insane amounts of time.
    Great to see the flex in use for production

    • @larryrobinson7492
      @larryrobinson7492 9 місяців тому

      I would be deburring those holes while the next two were running. Most people are too lazy for that.

    • @DownToNerd
      @DownToNerd 9 місяців тому

      @@larryrobinson7492 i was also thinking about the deburring when they mentioned the galvanizing

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 9 місяців тому +9

    The sad part is knowing what kind of job this is it would not surprise me that once they get these parts to the job location that the installers don’t wind up wallering bits thru the holes to obtain alignment. Machinist standards almost always clash with construction standards.

    • @oceanlover1663
      @oceanlover1663 9 місяців тому

      Thats why slotted hole work in these situations

  • @firesurfer
    @firesurfer 9 місяців тому +1

    I used to do jobs for a decent sized company that had a giant press to stamp out holes in angle iron. The noise was deafening. Up to 1/2 holes in 1/2 steel without even breathing hard. It was a primitive computer that used paper tape with holes in it like a ticker tape machine. This was 40 years ago. Fast too.

  • @JPGuay
    @JPGuay 9 місяців тому +1

    Almost unreal !

  • @akfarmboy49
    @akfarmboy49 9 місяців тому +1

    Flex jobs are very interesting jobs to me.

  • @Stefoshark
    @Stefoshark 9 місяців тому +2

    Hi from Canada, i'm myself a CNC operator, nice job, YES big machine just for holes but you need to learn somewhere, have a nice day & Be safe p.s. sorry for my writing im french

  • @sinchrotron
    @sinchrotron 9 місяців тому +3

    It is funny to see the keyboard with wasd highlited :)

  • @markwheeler202
    @markwheeler202 9 місяців тому +7

    If the length of the pieces are different, then by placing them back-to-back, you're creating a mirror symmetry, so the holes will be off when the angle iron pieces are re-oriented the same. Maybe it doesn't make a difference for this application.

    • @Rimrock300
      @Rimrock300 9 місяців тому

      He did explain in a comment that it is the spacing between the holes that is important, while both ends of the angles will stick out into 'the air', having some +/- allowance

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig 9 місяців тому +5

    Crazy fast precise drilling. A human would take 1-2 minutes a hole.

  • @gettingoldsuckss
    @gettingoldsuckss 9 місяців тому +1

    Never heard drilling Op sound like that. Love to see with high speed camera and maybe see surface finish under microscope.. looks awesome

  • @user-dn4iv2ne6r
    @user-dn4iv2ne6r 9 місяців тому +4

    Nothing beats a couple of terrified minimum wage kids with an old drill press out in the gravel and a few dull and worn out bits. Make sure it's at least 90 degrees and they don't get a break until the job is done.

    • @TheManLab7
      @TheManLab7 9 місяців тому

      Those were the days.

    • @324atleD
      @324atleD 9 місяців тому +4

      They were doing it wrong. You need a $200k machine like shown here.

    • @TheManLab7
      @TheManLab7 9 місяців тому +1

      @@324atleD life's SO much easier these days for all those youngsters 😁👍🏻😉

  • @walterhiegel3020
    @walterhiegel3020 9 місяців тому +5

    Adam...you are doing great. You are learning programming...seeing what can go wrong changing your approach and finishing successfully. Awesome.

    • @jerrylondon2388
      @jerrylondon2388 9 місяців тому +3

      Did you see him doing any programming? Ever?

    • @walterhiegel3020
      @walterhiegel3020 9 місяців тому

      @@jerrylondon2388 yes

    • @jerrylondon2388
      @jerrylondon2388 9 місяців тому +2

      @@walterhiegel3020 Right, he pushed Cycle On, then called Tech Support!

    • @walterhiegel3020
      @walterhiegel3020 9 місяців тому

      @jerrylondon2388 ok if that's the way you wanna characterize it. I see Adam as someone who has never done programming. Titan had the same issue and he turned out OK. Sometimes you just need a little help to get started.

    • @jerrylondon2388
      @jerrylondon2388 9 місяців тому

      @walterhiegel3020 I was an industrial trainer for a Fortune 5 company. I had 2 levels of students who attended class technicians and salesmen. Technicians would take one class, go back to work for a couple of months, then return for the next class. Rinse, repeat! Salesmen (like Abom) would take one class after another. They were there to learn the model number, and to be able to turn the product on and off. And perhaps learn some minor operations. Tech support was always on speed dial. Salesmen were never rated on their performance in class, basically just auditing. Technicians companies paid $5,000 - $10,000 a class, they wanted to see some results before spending money on further training. If I had "purchased" a $200,000 CNC machine and "paid" for training, I suspect, I like most, would be working my ass off to be able to get some return on "my" investment. If I had taken 3 or more classes, I must be the best, most advanced technician they had ever seen. Just not seeing it!

  • @forresta65
    @forresta65 9 місяців тому +6

    I bet Howie was glad he didn't have to drill all that by hand!

  • @whatsagrinder
    @whatsagrinder 9 місяців тому +2

    it took me a bit to train our machine shop to relax to welding tolerances. they are not aerospace parts, its structural, if its within .125, your awesome. chances are, the wall isnt even square or flat.

  • @Yooper45
    @Yooper45 9 місяців тому +4

    Use a sealed collet if you want to force the coolant through the drill instead of through and around the drill.

  • @oetken007
    @oetken007 9 місяців тому

    Oh nice... a video with the flex cnc. For changing the workpieces one of these magnetic on off holder thing for your crane would be nice.

  • @Ddabig40mac
    @Ddabig40mac 9 місяців тому

    Nice job for the flex! I would recommend planning for operations and tooling to make unequal leg angle iron and channel. As well as planning fixturing to mill weld prep bevels onto flat bar.

  • @mjshorty19
    @mjshorty19 9 місяців тому +10

    You might want to invest in some sealed ER collets so the thru coolant works correctly. And also that noise is typically because the drill might be running out which is typical of putting a drill in a standard ER collet

  • @andarthome142
    @andarthome142 9 місяців тому

    This job is easy on this machine, like you say in the the video this machine wil do far more better on bigger jobs, more different holes and bigger material, and then you need a crane above it, thats also can be cnc controlled, nice machine, thumps upp.👍

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 9 місяців тому

    now that will be a gret machine to have

  • @RobertGracie
    @RobertGracie 9 місяців тому +2

    After a long day at work Adam, your videos are the one thing that help me relax and enjoy my time off from work, never stop making these EPIC videos!

  • @peejay1981
    @peejay1981 9 місяців тому

    That drill cuts like it's butter!

  • @pablo12.345
    @pablo12.345 9 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @testi2025
    @testi2025 9 місяців тому +1

    You can get the tool holder fan with folding blades. It’s perfect for pushing that coolant of your parts. And it fits most magazines.

  • @peterouellette3874
    @peterouellette3874 9 місяців тому

    Rock and roll

  • @Uncle.J.32
    @Uncle.J.32 9 місяців тому +1

    You should make a production run of welding table kits. I would happily buy one - Cheers

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 9 місяців тому +6

    Too bad you didn't make a jig to hold a half dozen at a time. The table is big enough. Nice to see the machine working.

  • @tankerboysabot
    @tankerboysabot 9 місяців тому +1

    Looks like if you had 6 or even 9 clamps you could get so muchore production out of it. Theres a lot of room for activities on that entire machine. 👍👍👍

  • @Keenafy
    @Keenafy 9 місяців тому

    MO EZ!!! - the machinist

  • @stabilini
    @stabilini 9 місяців тому +4

    You could stack 4 pieces in that vices with some blocks between pairs. I really like your new shop Adam, it looks so pro!

  • @travnturner
    @travnturner 8 місяців тому +1

    holy cow man. safety glasses.

  • @LoremIpsum1970
    @LoremIpsum1970 9 місяців тому +5

    Coming from a structural/civil eng background, this is interesting to see. I don't think I've seen a regular structural steel fabshop with this level of precision, truly a pro piece of work, especially knowing the rolling tolerances of hot rolled structural steelwork. Just hope the guys in the field take as much care setting out all the framing! 👍 Like my grandfather used to say in his day everything was built to give or take half a brick...😲

  • @Manshit4all
    @Manshit4all 9 місяців тому +1

    With it dropping the rims, sounds like there is a setting issue. A lot of machines come with a SFM limit in place just in case someone forgets a decimal. Also with carbide when switching from HSS don't forget to change the drill point degree. HSS is generally 182 where as most carbine is 140. Also a spot could help start the holes with the height variances. You could do this with the carbide drill as well it would simply be programmed at 70% feed and say a depth of -.03.

  • @discord2000
    @discord2000 9 місяців тому +1

    "Save an Apprentice, buy a FlexCNC" 😁

  • @mdvener
    @mdvener 9 місяців тому +3

    Really a great looking job. You get better and more confident each time you use your CNC machines. I do miss your home shop n manual machining but you need to keep up with today's way of doing things. And doing a great job. Manual, or automated it is all looking great as everything you do. Thanks for sharing, n stay safe.

  • @BerndFelsche
    @BerndFelsche 9 місяців тому

    Nice to hear where these "insignificant" bits will end up. Maybe get a tour as an extra reward?

  • @arjanvanraaij8440
    @arjanvanraaij8440 9 місяців тому

    Dormer is our the go to brand for drills an taps.

  • @michaelcurtis8286
    @michaelcurtis8286 9 місяців тому +3

    Hey Adam, they sell collet nuts and like a seal that seal your collet so that all the thru coolant goes through the drill and not through collet also. Just a tip if you need more pressure to clear in deeper holes

    • @justinl.3587
      @justinl.3587 9 місяців тому +1

      There are also dedicated thru coolant collets that will block the coolant to only travel through the tool. Both work well either way.

  • @BigSlim
    @BigSlim 9 місяців тому +15

    Am i the only one who has realized that these are mirror image parts, not identical parts?

    • @jadesluv
      @jadesluv 9 місяців тому +2

      Does it matter for the application? If holes are symmetrical end to end it won‘t but if it does Adam will be drilling the other side on half of the angles for free!

    • @ryanjordan7113
      @ryanjordan7113 9 місяців тому +3

      Hole location is center. Makes no difference at all.

    • @BigSlim
      @BigSlim 9 місяців тому +6

      Starting at 1 square side @4" and the 2 parts are unequal lengths ,when you turn the opposite side around to the correct orientation, the starting point of the first hole is no longer 4". Maybe it's not a huge deal for this application, but it is a mirror image part. Not identical.

    • @truckguy6666
      @truckguy6666 9 місяців тому +4

      Good call. But it seems like its probably screwing into 24" o.c. studs or purlins or something that is going to be +/- a half inch anyways. And if its a solid surface with self tappers or whatever, then it just doesnt matter. Someone engineered that 24" o.c. screws are sufficient so it will be "close enough" which in the building industry is pretty standard. This is ultra low accuracy work. My two cents.

  • @danav3387
    @danav3387 9 місяців тому +3

    Should put a 4 or 6 inch block on those vices to bring the material a little closer to you. Less bending over