Pinion Shafts CNC Machined

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • In this video I'll share with you a small lathe job that I used for some more cnc training and practice. Steve Schurman from Milltronics come down to spend a few days with me helping to train me some more using the Milltronics conversational programming software. This was a small job requested by a viewer to machine some replacements shafts because they can no longer source them from the manufacturer. #abom79 #milltronics #cnclathe
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 285

  • @user-tw9io9nz2m
    @user-tw9io9nz2m Рік тому +67

    Appreciate you being transparent on the learning curve, it certainly isn’t easy for everyone. Don’t give up!

    • @johnbonner922
      @johnbonner922 Рік тому

      There are many different learning styles, each has its advantages and disadvantages.

  • @procyonia3654
    @procyonia3654 Рік тому +69

    Learning CNC is definitely a whole different experience if you're already a dialed in manual guy. Getting over that initial "i could have already done this manually" hurdle when just starting is really rough.
    But eventually youll get to a point you can just fly through it. Good on you for working through it as you can.

    • @maggs131
      @maggs131 Рік тому +1

      I agree with everything you've said but these machines are best suited for making multiple pieces quickly. Taking the time to write out the programs, paths and tooling for a single piece is probably slower than looking at a DRO and mechanical dials. Especially someone as proficient as Adam.

    • @MikeBaxterABC
      @MikeBaxterABC Рік тому

      @@maggs131 Wrong!!! ... You are talking about much older machines .. once you get programing in your head? These are totally suitable for one off jobs!! ...

    • @MF175mp
      @MF175mp Рік тому +2

      ​@@MikeBaxterABCyes and what about shapes that aren't square or round, they are a headache with manual machines at best

    • @procyonia3654
      @procyonia3654 Рік тому +2

      Yeh eventually you are faster with CNC than without, but at first it's hard to work through the learning curve.
      When you are on the low end of the curve it certainly can be faster to do a one off on a manual which makes it a battle.
      I said that In my comment, no idea why you guys are dogpiling me over something I meant to be encouraging for him.

    • @santboiboi375
      @santboiboi375 Рік тому

      Si eres un experto profesional en mecanizado en máquinas manuales y platos divisores con muchos años de experiencia , pasar a mecanizado con CNC es relativamente sencillo .
      Pero a la inversa es completamente casi siempre imposible , pues necesitarías mucho tiempo de aprendizaje .
      Un profesional con más de 70 años !
      Saludos

  • @lonniehutchinson4310
    @lonniehutchinson4310 Рік тому +14

    Thank you for having the humility to share that you are finding the CNC design work difficult. I think it’s important for people to see and hear that people do actually have problems. You’ve always done this and is a big part of your teaching and mentoring style. Thanks!

  • @joshclark44
    @joshclark44 Рік тому +25

    Proud of you Adam for learning something new at your age! You're not old but you're not young anymore either and it definitely is a challenge to anyone, but especially when you've been so established in a different way. I know a lot of people are probably giving you flack for going to cnc but I think it's great you're still learning and pushing yourself and I love to see it. Don't worry about messing up. That's actually what viewers like to see because it shows that even though you are a master machinist, you're still human. Love your videos and I hope you got more projects planned

    • @hubbsllc
      @hubbsllc Рік тому +1

      Adam always learns, that’s one of the things I admire about him.

    • @volkerracho5954
      @volkerracho5954 Рік тому

      He is only 44 yrs old, right?

  • @fredinit
    @fredinit Рік тому +1

    Adam, Being in IT for 25+ years (starting on mainframes) - you are absolutely correct in thinking that switching from manual to CNC is like learning a new language - because it is. But don't be so hard on yourself. Stop and think of all the things you *do* know: Use a micrometer, what good surface finish looks like, need to debur, setup the vice with a stop and parallels, gauge blocks, I'm off by 2/10th's - something's wrong, setup for carbide vs. HSS endmill is different, different insert for rough versus finish pass.. and that's what you already know to do a great job on just this job. You will learn the conversational programming and Fusion 360 with time and patience. One last pro-tip from our industry to yours. Don't forget to regularly backup your programs, and machine configuration settings from your equipment. Especially back up the settings before making changes. There are hundreds of gCode parameters to where any one of them can mean the difference between dead-nuts-on, and what the heck is going on?!?! Then keep that known good setting backup in a safe place outside the shop. Refresh it regularly with the current version (usually a date code e.g. 20230512 - easy to sort the directory by date.) Keep up the good work!

  • @rogervickery9376
    @rogervickery9376 Рік тому +7

    Hey Adam, I'm a business owner up in Calgary Alberta. I know that paying for training can be a very expensive endeavor. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you taking the time to show some video while you're paying for the onsite training on top of everything! Truth is I'm teaching myself machining, and you're a huge resource for me (I own an electrical contracting business so not related to machining in any way) I have no CNC machines, and little interest in getting any, but I wanted to say thanks anyway. Stay awesome friend!

    • @richardjones-sl2zd
      @richardjones-sl2zd Рік тому

      @@zerogiven1956 Machine free to use in return for channel exposure. Training on said machine so that Adam can use it, free or not free?

  • @johnventevogel7415
    @johnventevogel7415 Рік тому +7

    Watching you manually machine something blows my mind!! The amount of knowledge you have from the years of machining is immense. That took a lot of years to do that, though you were a beginner at the start. Keep at it with the CNC work, you will get it over time like you did the manual machining!!

  • @DavidDavis-OU81TWO
    @DavidDavis-OU81TWO Рік тому +4

    Gooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great afternoon!

  • @RGSABloke
    @RGSABloke Рік тому +9

    Adam, going to CNC at your age is very brave, it’s like being a small plane pilot then jumping into a Super Six Blackhawk helicopter. I am sure you will get there as you are clearly a very bright guy. Kindest regards from Bonnie Scotland. Joe.

  • @nbrowser
    @nbrowser Рік тому +6

    Tough learning curve or not Adam, the fact you're willing to expand your skill set is impressive. Just awesome to see you learning more because learning more isn't a bad thing.

  • @michaelcerkez3895
    @michaelcerkez3895 Рік тому +3

    You did good Abom. I too started machining back before there were NC's, working on Southbends and Bridgeports. I returned to school at 55 years old to learn to program CNC's. A little bit of a challenge but we'll worth the time. Rock on Abom you're doing great. Signed, The Olde Machinist

  • @woodenbanjoboy6766
    @woodenbanjoboy6766 Рік тому +1

    What pleasure to hear a genuine master machinist admit he needs a hand with a skill he’s trying hard to master. We had people that used to do that. We called them men.👍

  • @chadmcinroy7624
    @chadmcinroy7624 Рік тому

    Biggest lesson I have learned in lathe programming, tool pressure and test cuts. Fewer scraps due to out of tolerance.
    Great video.

  • @John-gt5fm
    @John-gt5fm Рік тому

    It’s definitely a learning curve. When you learn something repeat it then teach someone else. I find I remember best when I teach it to others.

  • @TheGregstorm
    @TheGregstorm Рік тому

    Back in the 60's, fresh out of the military, I got a job that evolved into my learning how to run, and set up, a turrent lathe for production orders. The setting up was so difficult for me, what with the interaction between the various planes and axes, that it almost drove me mad, so I quit and trained as an electronics tech at a Vo-Tek school. I can only imagine how much more difficult setting up one of these CAD machines must be. Hang in there, guy. Don't give up like I did. 😀

  • @ydonl
    @ydonl Рік тому

    Ultimately, you need to ask, "Is this the right tool for the job?" and also "Is this the right tool for me?"
    I fear that many of the people promoting the idea of CNC are answering those questions for themselves, in their own circumstances, but not really understanding yours. Your own choice of your path will be based on your own intuition, which you have shown for years, in many different ways, and the honesty that has made you a good man in the face of obstacles and opposition. These are things that made many of us want to follow you from those early days. A quiet man saying "I don't know if this is the best way, it's just way I do it." Absolutely! More of that!
    You have to have a reason. "This is why I'm using these particular tools for this particular job."
    That said... I think the best way to learn something technical, with thousands of new details, is one step at a time. Isolate the parts, start at the beginning, and work on that first step until it's obvious. Then add another. Teachers sometimes don't understand that it takes our brains time to absorb new information, and they pile on all the details at once. Slow and steady wins the race!
    I love electronics. For me, I love premium test gear from the 60's, 70's, maybe into the 80's. Analog. Switches, dials, buttons, knobs. Heavy as a boat anchor. Wonderful stuff that was the best of the best in its day, built with skill and pride, and it still works great. (Electrons haven't changed much!) I use the modern digital plastic machines from time to time, but they do not resonate with me. Funny enough, I make my living in software. I know what's inside those things; I understand how they work. Maybe that's why they're joyless for me. Those are just my personal choices and preferences! :-)

  • @alexcrouse
    @alexcrouse Рік тому +1

    It's incredible to me that all these companies hooked you up with all this amazing, extremely expensive gear - and it couldn't have happened to a better guy. Keep up the great work!

  • @encorespod2135
    @encorespod2135 Рік тому +11

    I have always worked in a computing/electronic background. The whole reason I watched your channel is because I felt that I was lacking in in the area of real world precision, engineering and machining. I have learnt many of the basics from you and although you produce some vlog content, I still occasionally pick up a tip from something you just mention in passing whilst working.
    I can learn and invent new tricks in my own realm during my day job, I watch videos about the stuff I don't know. (If I'm gonna spend my evenings watching TV, I might as well learn something.)
    Maybe you can do the same thing with working the computers, find a way to expose yourself to it in your daily routine. Maybe at first none of it will make any sense but I was the same when I got into this, the same words keeping popping up and you start to learn without even realising it. Before I knew it was rebuilding a hydraulic press.

    • @davidt8438
      @davidt8438 Рік тому +1

      Good and accurate advise.

    • @williegillie5712
      @williegillie5712 Рік тому

      They used to tell me ,” patience young padawan”
      When I started learning how to work on cars I spent time reading manuals and principles of operation. It took me a while but it got easier over time. Good luck Adam. I think you’ll get it all figured out in time.

  • @michaelkoch2109
    @michaelkoch2109 Рік тому

    In Germany we say: "Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen." You will become a master. I am convinced of it! Keep it up! Best regards from Dresden! 👍👏💪❤🛠🇩🇪❤🇺🇸😎

  • @motivatedpeon
    @motivatedpeon Рік тому

    3D CAD design is not an easy or simple task. It is a quite well paid profession. When I finished school, it was a job you had to study at university for or at a engineering academy. I was told you had to be good at maths, calculating vectors and stuff I don't understand. So it is pretty amazing, that nowadays everybody can grab a copy of a CAD design program and start drawing parts. I may not be "good" at it, but I can design the parts I imagine. And I can make it using a 3D printer. It is not a mill or lathe, so don't be too judgemental on what you have achieved: you sir are way ahead of most of us armchair experts!

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Рік тому

    So nice you have knowledgeable programmers to help you learn how to use these machines. Tight tolerances usually makes a few scrap parts till you get it dialed then once it is you can start spitting out bunches of parts fast.

  • @matthewsykes4814
    @matthewsykes4814 Рік тому

    Your CNC machines are built to be flexible for your needs rather than patterned high speed production machines that I run.
    Some of the machines I'm near an expert on through experience, the others I'm still a beginner so I get my hand held and guided like you right now.
    And yes it wasn't easy but I'm getting there, so I know where your coming from, great work as always and a big shout out to Milltronics for helping you out with their products.
    Have yourselves a great day and just remember..... go and slow, take it slow till your ready, heh

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 Рік тому +4

    I've said it since day-1 of a79 getting them CNC-machines. If you don't use the software regularly your knowledge won't stick. And especially when you are a a little bit older. Problem is you need to practice A LOT from scratch. You can NEVER go to a CAD/CAM class and think you know everything once you've finished. In class everything is planned ahead and thing runs smoothly and there is an instructor to guide you. When you are alone you have to figure out everyting yourself. And you have to transform your mental idea of what you are going to make into something the CNC software will understand. Most times it will not "understand" what you meant it to do and you've wasted time and material and maybe crashed the CNC machine as well costing thousands of dollars - and you STILL haven't got closer to making the part you wanted to make.
    If you are away from the CAD/CAM software for more than a week your knowledge starts to fade away. The problem for a79 (and all other manual lathe specialists) is that they will always HATE the struggle against the software to do even the simplest of things when they KNOW they could've made the part already on the lathe. It will always be a hate / hate relationship with the CNC software.
    a79 is cursed with his skills in manual lathe work and it will always be troubling to him wasting time on the CNC overhead. For this reason he will never succeed in the CNC world. You HAVE to love making sofware sketches and thinking abstractly to make the parts. a79 is more of a Bluto (from popeye) type of a person.

  • @Nebulorum
    @Nebulorum Рік тому +1

    I remember seen a graph of how programmer learns new languages (which happens along one’s career). You improve a bit, then hit some limits and feel less effective than before, once you overcome the slump your raise to a new higher plateau. Overcoming the slump is the had part. Keep at it…
    Also CAM allows you to let the computer translate the drawings to GCode, they can do this really well.

  • @heinvosloo45
    @heinvosloo45 Рік тому +4

    Practice makes perfect. Keep it up. You already made beautiful parts!

  • @hank5655
    @hank5655 Рік тому

    Adam I owe you a huge Thank You I have never been able to sharpen drill bits until I watched you and listened then I was in my work shop and I needed a bit sharpened and I was not going to drive to town to buy one so I tried sharpening a bit and to my surprise It worked perfect since then I have sharpened over 100 and all perfect. Thank You

  • @billjulian9496
    @billjulian9496 Рік тому +1

    Adam, I started watching you back during the pandemic and I really appreciate that you are taking us on your journey from Manual Machining into CNC Machining, your honesty is appreciated with the difficulties and differences. This is great content, thank you!

  • @frankhott179
    @frankhott179 Рік тому

    I laughed when you used the piece as practice that didn’t have a pretty finish. One of the tools in my pottery studio is a hammer! When you remarked about learning a “new language” I share with you a mantra of a well-known potter, Simon Leach; “Practice, practice, practice!” Best wishes to you and yours for health and happiness.❤️

  • @russtuff
    @russtuff Рік тому +1

    Nicely done, I'm here for all of it.

  • @brand-x7049
    @brand-x7049 Рік тому +7

    Note that for a small run, you can use an empty tool position as a set-stop for your parts - set it in the program to bring the position in, then bring the workpiece up against it and lock the chuck.

    • @Abom79
      @Abom79  Рік тому +4

      That’s a good tip I didn’t think of or have seen before, thanks 👍🏻

    • @kkofodh
      @kkofodh Рік тому +2

      @@Abom79 or the blank part of another tool. just have it set up in the library as a tool. then call that tool in the start, at Z0 (+ faceoff amount) - just remember to have the machine go into pause mode. the ISO code is M0(0) if you have to put that in manually.
      been using that method for years in production runs. so unless you need length precision of less than 0.05mm (0.002 inch) then its fine

    • @ianagos4276
      @ianagos4276 Рік тому

      Yep I usually just use my roughing tool for a bar stop works fine.
      A lot of people will use the parting holder or something aswell

    • @TGC32
      @TGC32 Рік тому +1

      I use to use an old adjustable square set. I would place the butt end of the rule against a fixed point on the chuck then butt round bar up against the face of the square.

  • @2oqp577
    @2oqp577 Рік тому

    You know Adam, I create and deliver training in another industry. Part of my success is the ability to distill the information into essential components and understanding what needs to be understood first, building something from scratch, bottom up. Until a teacher can actually do that in a comprehensive way, some concepts are just too blurry to grasp. I haven't touched CNC either. But I have to pimp up my machines into CNC machines and I will surely go through the same thing you do.

  • @pyrobeav2005
    @pyrobeav2005 Рік тому

    The constant surface speed function makes me unreasonably happy; hearing the machine speed up with each pass always puts a smile on my face.

  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret Рік тому

    34:00 learning a new language is the perfect example, it really is similar and you are doing a good job there

  • @zedostenso3069
    @zedostenso3069 Рік тому +1

    Old dog new trick comes to mind 😊

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab Рік тому +1

    Adam, if you put a polarizer filter on your GoPro, you can cut the reflections and skylight glare down so that it's easier to see your work.

  • @briantate8656
    @briantate8656 Рік тому +1

    Well one good thing you can learn this in your own shop!!! No worries of dealing with an employer that could become inpatient ,you will get it !!! Have fun with the journey .

  • @mdvener
    @mdvener Рік тому

    You'll get it. One day you'll come in and will just have it. I struggled with geometry for half of alcohol year and it just hir me everything just came to me. Went on to algebra then calculus 1 n 2 and physics. I have faith in you.

  • @user-vn6hi2bi3g
    @user-vn6hi2bi3g Рік тому

    Great to see someone willing to invest and keep company current when it is easier to stay with what you know good to have wife fully onboard with large capital investments required to stay relevant. I applaud you and your wife.

  • @rowlandcrew
    @rowlandcrew Рік тому +2

    Hi Adam, Developing a working knowledge with conversational will help model in CAD/CAM. I can't say why someone who runs CNC all day would want to watch, but for myself, a casual cnc runner, I am interested in seeing the miltronics machine specific detailed process. The saying "see one, do one, teach one" is a functional way to for you to remember. Start from cold startup, homing, tool library calibration and offsets. This prescription invites someone who wants to know how cnc works. Maybe there are folks that just are happy to fall asleep while watching a job running, but I want to see the details. I found some 12" long .001" feeler gauges that work much better than paper for zero settings.

  • @frankcurley
    @frankcurley Рік тому

    CNC from traditional analog machining is a huge paradigm shift in thinking as well as practise. Don't be discouraged, you are learning a new skill. You have it within you to master this.

  • @gregc1775
    @gregc1775 Рік тому

    Like the way you explain things.
    My father would not let me go into the aircraft industry as he was in aircraft engineering during the war well Merlin and Pratt & wittney engine & Mackie jet engine. So now I am retired from the truck & Car Smash repair industry. Have a small machine shop and Aluminium Tig welding setup in my garage.
    Always watch your videos GREAT. Love your work shop and the work you do.
    NSW. AUSTRALIA 👍👍

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing. Learning something new everyday, not just cnc. You will get a tool box full of knowledge before you know it. One day, one project, one machine at a time. My first boss always said “how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.” “Dig deep and go back for seconds”, he would tell me.

  • @bernardwill7196
    @bernardwill7196 Рік тому +1

    Training on the Milltronics machines can not be wrong- Greetings from germany .

  • @mrx.2233
    @mrx.2233 Рік тому +1

    You never too old to learn. Enjoying the video's.

  • @vrjb100
    @vrjb100 Рік тому +1

    Compliments to Steve for the camera work. Looks professional!

  • @RobertGracie
    @RobertGracie Рік тому +2

    Another soothing video to relax to on my 4K TV, keep these up Adam!

  • @CNCMachinistEducationNetwork

    great comments on what your CNC programming Focus and using the conversational. the intent of Tool Room CNC is perfect for you

  • @tomgiblin3472
    @tomgiblin3472 Рік тому

    Thank you Adam, It's not easy transitioning to modern milling techniques but fair play to you for being so honest in your struggles to get to grips with CNC programming. :-)

  • @Goman1244
    @Goman1244 Рік тому

    You are to be praised for your effort to learn these new skills. Hang in there!

  • @csnelling4
    @csnelling4 Рік тому

    Stop beating yourself up Adam, you are learning to learn again Adam, and that is hard too . Very. Well done and as you implied, practice makes things perfect . 😎👏👏👏👍YOU WILL SUCCEED,

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 Рік тому

    I started out with Autocad v9 and became extremely proficient on it. However, its vector based. Fusion 360, I spend a year learning new curse words. Then I figured out what the work process for it was. First you start out with a sketch, which is just like a drawing on paper. You have the typical views, front, side, top. But you can have bottom, back, and other side . Once you get those cross sections done, then you move to creating the bodies. These are usually simple primitives, like cylinders, boxes, walls, etc. After that, you can combine these bodies into a complete shape (or body). That's the simple part. After that you put the bodies into assemblies (what they call components) so if you move them, scale them, copy them, they stay as one unit. Now that's a quick summary of about 10th of what this software can do. I do basic 3-d printing so far. My CNC right now is down while I learn more about 3-d printing. I hope this doesn't come off condescending, but I wanted to say what I went through learning that thing. Back in the Autocad v9 days, I worked with various companies (Intel was one) in their Facilities department, customizing Autocad for their needs and building their building databases. Fun times. I hear you lamenting but don't worry, watching your series you're doing fantastic! With your exceptional background in manual machining, you're perfect for this next technological step. Your Dad and Grandad are no doubt proud. Have a great one.

  • @Martin52863
    @Martin52863 Рік тому

    Anyone remember when AvE first got his Haas? You’re not alone when it comes to the trials and tribulations of learning how to CNC. It’s wonderful that your being so open about it not being a walk in the park for you as well.

  • @coxandsonmachine2128
    @coxandsonmachine2128 Рік тому +1

    Nice job thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @mfc4591
    @mfc4591 Рік тому

    Repetition makes confidence and a decent explanation is very helpful. Have a great week

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC Рік тому

    8:30 .. So fantastic the feed back the display gives you .. when I ran CNC lathes back in the 80's the feed back was a 4 segment Digit only LED :)

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 Рік тому

    I think you will learn with no problem. Iam sure every one has the same learning curve. thanks for sharing

  • @jmazoso
    @jmazoso Рік тому

    The cool part of this throwing another tool in your tool chest. Both methods have their place. Love your content.

  • @colindawson4818
    @colindawson4818 Рік тому +1

    I’m a professional computer programmer. A couple of years ago (lockdown projects) I bought a starter cnc and later a 3d printer. I found the cnc part hard and put it away. The 3d printing is fun. Have been learning fusion 360 and agree that the learning curve is very steep. Keep at it, keep it simple and I’m very sure that you’ll get the hang of it.

    • @MF175mp
      @MF175mp Рік тому

      I've spent like total of 10 hours or so with Fusion and I can already make use of it pretty well. I was somewhat familiar with CAD before that but not much CAM

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Рік тому

    Excellent work,Adam.Keep them coming.Thank you.

  • @forresta65
    @forresta65 Рік тому

    The thing with Cad is if you don't do it everyday you will forget functions. It is like learning a foreign language, if you don't use it it is easy to forget. I respect you for trying something new.

  • @stevemcpike9010
    @stevemcpike9010 Рік тому

    Keep it up, Adam. Proud of you for how hard you're working at this. You'll get it. Remember, it's not a race. It's a marathon

  • @jjbode1
    @jjbode1 Рік тому

    Good on you for doing what feels tough! Keep that attitude alive in all you do.

  • @Eddietech2
    @Eddietech2 Рік тому

    Well I would like to say thank you!!!!! you are making a change in your life for using newer equipment. you seem to be an old-school learning, by doing it hands on. I'm the same way being an automotive mechanic, a lot of my learning was hands on. But we are also human, we are gonna make mistakes. but also with the help that you can get from the Milltronics crew, I think you will do it !!!! keep going on what you are doing!!!!! I enjoy your videos !!!!!

  • @DisVietVetUSA
    @DisVietVetUSA Рік тому

    You did a fantastic job, do not worry about age, repitition is a learing process

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus Рік тому

    Adam, while have that person there helping you should consider making yourself a little cheat sheet booklet with different steps that you can then reference when you want to go in and make a part. Bc it's not an easy thing to learn quickly. But we're pulling for ya brother, it just takes repetition and you'll get there. 👍👍

  • @federiconiedenthal4180
    @federiconiedenthal4180 Рік тому

    Nice job!!!!
    Miss the old shop, hope see work in that beautiful garage shop, and see the Monarch get some love.
    I´m not a CNC guy, but is very noce see you learning abut it.
    Thanks for all Adam. Keep up the good work

  • @richardlincoln8438
    @richardlincoln8438 Рік тому

    From a Pensacola job shop to Titans of CNC. I am happy that You can afford to do it. Best Wishes.

  • @peterjensen6233
    @peterjensen6233 Рік тому

    Keep it up! It’s not easy if there’s nobody in your shop you can go to for answers. You’re doing great.

  • @dominikgs
    @dominikgs Рік тому

    Hi Adam I think everybody has to find his way of learning.
    If you start to learn too much at the same time your engagement is shared. So in my opinion you do it right. First learn one thing and become comfortable with it then stack up to fusion. I think the knowledge you gain with the machine will help you down the road with fusion.
    The most important thing is to keep yourself motivated everything else will come with time.
    Love your videos.

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Рік тому +1

    I have been learning Fusion 360 too. I don't do enough to become comfortable let alone proficient. But I enjoy it. I remember back in the 90's I started with Solid Edge. It seemed easy compared to Fusion, but I also was doing more stainless sheet metal at the time and of course none was to feed a CNC. I think you are picking this stuff up pretty quick considering how much time you really have been able to put into it. Keep it up, like you say repetition. Thanks for sharing.

  • @davidhall1779
    @davidhall1779 Рік тому +1

    I think your doing awesome in your efforts to learn all new machining. definitely a difficult journey. Im enjoying watching your progress. We could all benefit from challenging ourselves to learn new things.

  • @MilltronicsUSAInc
    @MilltronicsUSAInc Рік тому +1

    Keep up the good work Adam. You're making great progress.

  • @mazchen
    @mazchen Рік тому

    We told you so 🤓 but joke aside, CNC is a different world from what you have been doing until now. Kudos to you for trying out something new! Getting proficient and efficient with Fusion takes practice, practice and then some more practice.

  • @ErikBongers
    @ErikBongers Рік тому +1

    If you have to do a whole batch of identical parts, you'll be glad to have learned to use these machines.

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Рік тому

    The nice thing about CNC lathe is if the far end sticking out is consistently larger than the diameter closest to the chuck because of part deflection you can program a slight taper cut into the machine so you end up with a straight cut surface.

  • @larry3064
    @larry3064 Рік тому

    Five parts to finish parts over two operations is pretty good.
    Nice work guys.

  • @tomazbeg1999
    @tomazbeg1999 Рік тому

    thank you so much for sharing all this, in past I have learn a lot from you.. so thank you so much and all the best ❤️❤️✌️

  • @hasletjoe5984
    @hasletjoe5984 Рік тому

    Adam, it is like riding a bicycle. After a few falls or crashes, you will get the hang of it. The real downside is not being able to see you chuck up a part in the four jaw and index it in in under a minute. I have confidence you will be quite proficient on the CNC soon. Thanks for the videos.

  • @evandthayer
    @evandthayer Рік тому +1

    It took me a while to understand Fusion 360, especially coming from some more straightforward 2D drawing tools like AutoCAD. Parametric modeling really is a different way of thinking. At some point it all kinda popped into my head and now it I can't imagine doing it any other way. Good luck on your journey.

  • @chrisbullen279
    @chrisbullen279 Рік тому

    Hi Adam, I use fusion 360 every day and it's the most amazing tool. Easy... no!! Difficult for a beginner... not so much, but it does take a little time to get used to a few of the basics. Once you have a basic understanding of the way it works, it's like everything comes together and makes sense. I had no training but have used it, and used the amazing online help from all the guys out there. No affiliation but I love Fusion and it opens doors to anything you want to make. Don't give up!!!! Keep up the good work!!

  • @anthonymarino4260
    @anthonymarino4260 Рік тому

    another great Saturday. nite. thanks

  • @Ideasite
    @Ideasite Рік тому

    I spent a year or so outfitting my Sherline mill and lathe with stepper motors, motion controllers & went deep into the rabbit hole, figuring out LinuxCNC and actually got them both fully under control. I even added optical encoders so I could do threading on them. I figured out how to add a 4th axis Sherline rotary with a stepper. Today I decided to take all of the CNC stuff off of those machines. CNC is truly fantastic and capable of more than is possibly manually, by far. But I'm just a guy with a hobby. If I need a part, I want to think about how I can machine it from whatever chunks of stuff I have laying around.I love that chess game. Somehow, CNC sterilizes the process. It's like having a printer. I want to feel the smoothness of the cross slide & the vibration of the cut as I go. I'm willing to sacrifice efficiency for feel. I may still work from Fusion 360, but only if it's really complicated. The rest is going to be chicken scratch on a note pad.

  • @tracydiller9378
    @tracydiller9378 Рік тому

    Great video Adam and a Great looking shop you are doing things right.

  • @brucemacduffee6969
    @brucemacduffee6969 Рік тому

    When I was running a CNC lathe in the late 80s and middle 90s we used to ID our "setup" parts with a red felt marking pen.

  • @geoffreywheatley7711
    @geoffreywheatley7711 Рік тому

    The trick with using the paper is a good idea. We have been doing that for years with our CNC flatbed router in the sign company I work for, especially when we engrave aluminium composite for folding purposes.

  • @gofastwclass
    @gofastwclass Рік тому

    Proud of you for learning something new. Too many people stick with what they know and stop making progress.

  • @mazdamadd
    @mazdamadd Рік тому

    Wait until that day you write a program for the first time and the part comes off perfect first piece. It's an epic moment getting over the initial learning phase is rough but worth it, having the manual machine background like Adam has is just gonna make him that much better once he learns how to weld his new CNC sword then making more intricate parts becomes a breeze

  • @Repairman87
    @Repairman87 Рік тому +2

    Adam, draw something simple everyday in Fusion to keep skills up while learning. Just walk out to the shop grab something small and random draw it up. I can draw in CAD pretty well but struggle to read a micrometer consistently so we all have our issues I guess.

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 Рік тому

      I agree.. Start with a simple project, even copy an existing project out there on youtube or whatever step by step, then add a step or shape that is extra, and keep on going. Great ideas Scott!

  • @MrDeanGr
    @MrDeanGr Рік тому +1

    i hope this machine wont steal your job one day
    but its amazing what man can build

    • @Rimrock300
      @Rimrock300 Рік тому +1

      The machine can't do ANYTHING on it's own if not for a human controll it, set it up, maintain it

  • @kennethskirvin469
    @kennethskirvin469 Рік тому

    Once you get up on the Fusion learning curve, it'll become fun. Hang in there!

  • @alt-w7130
    @alt-w7130 Рік тому

    Good Vlog, it is good to understand how the CNC works, but I still love the manual machines where you see how parts are created.

  • @your_utube
    @your_utube Рік тому

    Since starting to watch this channel I was wondering when you would get into the more modern stuff, although the old way is really too interesting for us normal people to not like a lot. This learning process can only lead to a great conclusion. All the best with it.

  • @apistosig4173
    @apistosig4173 Рік тому

    G'day Adam - you've so long been a hands-on machinist. Hand written sketches are an excellent transition to things such as Fusion / CAD / CNC etc etc - an excellent transition. Pat yourself on the back mate - bravo and well done.

  • @JimSmith431
    @JimSmith431 Рік тому +2

    As an old school programmer (I did Jovial - yep I'm a dinosaur) I found it rather difficult to learn object oriented programming. But I did and I'm sure you will become quite proficient with CNC as well. I often think we see the learning curve as steeper and more difficult than it actually is, but you'll get there.

    • @jdm2651
      @jdm2651 Рік тому

      I don't think the issue Adam is facing is about object oriented programming, or actually any programming at all.
      He needs to learn Fusion 360, which is 3D CAD CAM program. Even if it supposed to be an intuitive program, surely it is not, or at least not for everyone.
      I identify perfectly with him, and I come from an computer programming background.
      It is like if in the old times you would take a machinist out of the shop, and make him quickly become a technical drawer, or designer, sure it may have happened, but very rarely.
      And then after the design step, you have to do the work of selecting tools and sequences, which can vary for each machine, by entering them in whatever software that finally output the actual G code fed to the machine.
      No surprise that Adam instead is more comfortable with the conversational approach, which can save a traditional machinist hours or days spent in front of a workstation (just a PC these days), and getting very frustrated.
      He simply enters the actions directly into the machine, while being very connected to the actual setup, tools choices, tolerances, speeds and feeds. All things that are very far from a beaut8ful 3D drawing, which you can rotate, color and examine as you want, but won't do anything in the direction producing the part in itself. In fact, good 2D drawings are much more useful
      Being a complete A to Z CNC machinist means being able to do all the above, plus maintaining the shop, purchasing tools and materials, interacting with customers, caring for logistics, and probably few things more. Sure, some talented and hard working individual may succeed, but not many do or even will want to try.
      An industry solves this giving differs tasks to each individuals, but a small shop cannot.

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 Рік тому

      JOVIAL is nearly a perfect language for embedded processing - far better than object-oriented. C++ is more like a cult than a language As to the dinosaur aspect - I was modifying some JOVIAL code last Thursday.

  • @bobbendt1698
    @bobbendt1698 Рік тому

    Now you just have to run parts on the CNC machines regularly instead of naturally running to the manual machines. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks but it can be done. Enough repetition and you will run CNC like it was manual. Good video on learning this again.

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth2011 Рік тому

    Yes and while he is going through the software entries and navigations, having a camera record that will help the memory until you get fully versed.

  • @petercunningham3469
    @petercunningham3469 Рік тому

    As always great presentation, as a hobby lathe and mill user iam finding this super informative CNC a little ways off for me but this is getting my interest UP 😊

  • @ronnydowdy7432
    @ronnydowdy7432 Рік тому

    You are getting better at this. I still like the manual machines too.

  • @cozmium
    @cozmium Рік тому

    My boy Adam not only has to learn complicated CAD software as others have said... it's like the icing on the cake he has to use metric too 🤣Time to move over this side of the pond!

  • @seabreezecoffeeroasters7994

    With Fusion start with widgets, bushes and spacers around the shop and if you still have it (think you showed it a while ago) a 3D printer (if not go buy a $2-300 one and some PLA filament) then exporting those as STL's is a few simple button presses. It along with Lars Christiansen's UA-cam channel got me started and a bit like you I am learning my way into CNC but the Fusion CAD bit is now easy CAM not so much. Stick at it🤪