That is super cool. Can't wait to see you put the carriage and tail stock on. I may have called you a name or two when you said we have to wait to see that. 😁
lol, i'll give you a thumbs-up for his machining abilities, both artistically-inclined, as well as scientific (ah, but where does art end and science begin though?...) but you clearly don't watch a lot of machining videos because let's just say he has lots of room for improvement in terms of filming his work. :) if you want to see some _really_ masterful machining videos, check out clickspring (i especially liked his byzantine sundial calendar 1000 hrs megamix video: watch?v=Uc-hUvbqqh8). that criticism notwithstanding, i prefer this dude joe pieczyski's channel over all others ever since i found it, because he is not only a *top* notch machinist (i think, i don't really know...more on that following), but he also shares his deep deep knowledge with us. even simple practical tips like in this video when he warned us not to blast-out chips with compressed air in situations when they can fly in crazy uncontrolled ways...that stuff is PEARLS of wisdom! and then he has awesome videos where he totally digs into the math of how to reason-about, and calculate and layout features, it's all just dead good. lol, the funniest thing is, i only took metal shop in 7th grade in the early 80s and dgaf, and now as an adult i do not work as a machinist, nor even have any of these tools, but i can't stop watching this stuff!...at least thanks to this dude i feel that if i ever got a chance to get into a machine shop i could understand what was going on. :) peace
Thanks for your support and positive comment. I do plan to upgrade my lighting and editing software. Chris at Clickspring is amazing in all aspects of his presentations.
@@joepie221 well, i thank YOU for sharing your fantastic work and deep wisdom and intelligence with us. i've been going through your older videos over the past few days and they are gold. also, i just checked your channel page and you've done scientific machining work for the us and canadian governments...lol, i _knew_ you were a great machinist, not just playing one on youtube! xD you ever thought about getting a patreon account? it don't look like you need the cash, but it'd be helpful for getting all the requisite cameras and mics and software you'll need to surpass chris at clickspring. ;) another channel i think is great, though he doesn't give near as much info as you, is cutting edge engineering from australia; dude is a 1-man-gang. lol, youtube is so cool! thanks again. peace
As a retired tool/model maker, I've always been impressed with you not only explaining what, and how, but also the why. Even we old farts sometimes need reminding. Thanks!
People look at the finished product and don't realize the work you put into making fixtures to machine some of the parts. There is a lot more work than meets the eyes. Keep up the good work Joe.
Joe, wonderful job as always. One small tip from my side; I started to hate the countersunk screws especially in small sizes (M2, M3) and in (soft) A2 Stainless. Then I switched to the Torx versions and became a happy man when it's about tightening or loosening small countersunk screws. You can really torque these small sizes with a Torx drive with confidence again (within reason of course). Even the M2 ones. Try it and you will be surprised. I'm not a screw you salesman; just a driven technician like you are. Thank you Joe! You blew my week out with a smile! Best, Job
@@marley589 galvanic corrosion specifically describes that which occurs between two dissimilar metals and it has been around far longer than screws. What other steel type fastener were you suggesting to be used when fastening aluminum?
@@marley589 only reason to use a plastic washer between ss and aluminum is to prevent marring a surface, but structurally it would be the wrong thing to do. What would be an everyday application where a ss steel fastener shouldn't be used in aluminum so I can relate better to what your convening.
@@marley589 so you couldn't cite an everyday example of an application where you shouldn't use ss in aluminum, because it's not advisable? Why didn't you correct Joe, that it's not advisable to use those ss screw with the aluminum fixture and strap clamps?
The full-size bed on which this model was based was a very advanced design for its day. Modern improvements were mainly to the headstock. Nice work, as usual, Joe.
Hi Joe, Another great video! I particularly appreciate the way you talk us through your thought process. As you know, one of the things (above and beyond skill and knowledge of the subject matter) that separates master tradesmen from journeymen and apprentices is their ability to pass those skills and knowledge to the next generation. That is, true master tradesmen must also be teachers. You have that talent in spades. Thanks for sharing! Be well & Best regards, Gottfried
Kudos to you Joe! I've been wearing out the soles of my boots on a shop floor for over 56 years now and still find that there are new techniques to learn every step of the way. While some think they know it all, the one thing they don't know is that they can't. Even in retirement, I still have a fairly well equipped hobby machineshop to play in ;)
The craftsmanship is impeccable. The closeup photography with lighting is some of the best I've seen. You constantly move the mark! Thanks for the looksee.
Oh my - those bed rails had me thinking - and not easily coming up with any good ideas. Thus - intrigued to see what you'd come up with Joe.! Your explanation of solutions made absolute sense - despite the extra work a fixture certainly seems the way to go and is most elegant. I 'ouched' big time when the small cutter broke - I hate the stress when using tiny cutters! This whole piece has been a tour de force - kudos Joe, wonderful job, immaculate. Bravo :)
You have me through all your videos. Rapt and attentive. Then you say "unloosen". Do you mean loosen? Unloosen = tighten. You do amazing work my friend.
Dang it Joe! I haven't gotten a single thing done in two days since I come across this mini-lathe series. Had to binge watch. Others have given you enough (well deserved) compliments so I'll dispense with those. As a retired camera repairman I got a chuckle watching you fumble assembling the "small" pieces. Thanks for sharing. I'm learning sooo much from you.
That really came out nice ! Sometimes making the fixture to hold the part is an art itself , you are a master at that . Thanks for taking us along . 😊 !
Beautiful work as always! Looks good after you hit it with the polish, gives it the ground look. The explanation and tips about clamping it as you did were also great, along with the tip on the screws at the end. Thanks for sharing it with us.
“Some days you get the elevator, some days you get the shaft” - haven’t heard that one in donkey’s years! I suspect most days you get the elevator, Joe! You ROCK!
another great video joe. Your approach to challenging set ups is always interesting i would like to see you spend some time explaining cutting the 45 degree features. maybe a separate video with some time at the white board.
I'm headed off to confessional ... I need forgiveness for the sinful moment of joy I felt when the end mill broke. I know, it's wrong. But I think, between the confessional and a couple hours of therapy with my psyche, I can return to the shop and brake my own tooling guilt free!
I am really enjoying these miniature projects. You Sir are a true craftsman.THANK YOU. PS. You need a shop vacuum to remove those chips a lot safer than blowing them remember you only get one set of eyes. THANK YOU.
Gday Joe, your a bugger mate, leaving us all hanging till the end to see the components sitting on the ways but that’s alright we can wait, we’re got patients😉, the top of the ways look beautiful and with a little polish really did the job, I can u understand why your glad this part is done now, I’d be shitting myself if I was doing it, awesome job mate, throughly enjoyed watching, cheers Matty
Joe, your fixture wasn’t overkill it was the correct way to do that operation, it’s exactly what I expected you to do. Sometimes a good fixture is the only way. Keep up the good work and I’m glad you’re enjoying this project.
I used to use air to blow off chips and sawdust, but I worked in a shop where if the boss caught you using air he let you know in no uncertain terms that it was NOT allowed in his shop. We had to use a shop vacuum because the air would blow dirt back into slides and bearings where you can't clean.
Nice Joe! You are going to have a beautiful model to display in your glass case. Thanks for the Patreon preview. Thank you for discussing the tools used in these setups. I’d love to hear speeds and feeds to go along with the tool description. Thank you, you are a great teacher!
Very nice. I can't wait to see all components com together. I shure Woult like to have such a workshop. The last time I used a lathe was at school 1968. Greetings from Holland.
Yes!!! First time I’ve EVER been first thumbs up!!! Joe, you’re a natural - I really appreciate the efforts you put into the production as well as the machining expertise and background info... keep’em coming, we’ll all keep supporting!
Next time you see a 'bag-less' vacuum cleaner dumped at side of road, stop and pick it up. Usually they are OK or may need one of the hoses cleaned out (people try and vacuum magazines and stuff) if it doesn't run, just leave it out again until the next one comes along. I picked up a Dyson and a Bissel left out for trash man, Dyson only needed shredded paper removed, Bissel went straight into garage next to mini lathe (after checking outside on driveway - just in case it was full of bugs or something) It's better than blowing tiny chips around
Wonderful build! As for the first endmill - I was sure it's going to snap much earlier - a thin endmill like that with such a deep cut. I take very small passes (but my motor is tiny, and will stall while snapping the endmill... ). Thanks for the tips!
Hey Joe- great video as always and appreciate the discussion about fixturing and applied its use here. The Slow -mo video got my attention as it did everyone else. PM should be sending you royalty checks . Thanks
Hi Joe, Shame that end mill broke, but the end result is flawless. Another example of quality machining. Looking forward to the next video. You and the family stay safe.
I was ready for that. I usually don't use 4 flute cutters on aluminum. NOT A FAN. Thanks for your well wishes. Got my 2nd vaccine shot today and staying healthy. I hope you are too.
As always, nice job. And here I thought you were going to have to build a minature planer to machine the bed. 🙄 For people looking to purchase Woodruff Keyseat Cutters. They come in two different types. The straight tooth as Joe is using here. And they come in Staggered Tooth types. The Stagger Toothed ones cut far better in tougher materials with less chatter. They cost a little more but there are times they are definitely worth it.
@@marley589 So do Stagger Toothed Cutters made to correspond to standard Woodruff Keyseats. Tee Slot Cutters generally have a longer relieved section on the shank so as to clear the critical width of the Tee Slot. Plus Stagger Toothed Keyseat Cutters are dimensionally the same as standard cutters. Where as Tee Slot Cutters are generally of more robust design due to having the clear more chips. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.harveyperformance.com/in-the-loupe/benefits-of-staggered-tooth-keyseat-cutters/&ved=2ahUKEwjXos2bpprwAhWTLc0KHTziDBUQFjAAegQICRAC&usg=AOvVaw2CunURJBlUN7uM7PTYlvms
Those "were " light cuts indeed. Hardly visible for sure. In the day DRO's were few and far between so basically all I know is to work against or with backlash always present. Even on the tightest machines. It is what I was taught and still do to this day. Love having a couple dial indicators though eh. There is a lot more to this piece than meets the initial eye indeed. A good amount of time was needed to get it figured out and executed. Well done Joe. It looks great ! ZOOM, that was a fast 40 min fella !
Looking fantastic that! Would be great if you could do one of your whiteboard masterclasses to explain how you set up the numbers for cutting the 45 degree ways.
That was a great video, packed with hints and tips, and the bed looks beautiful and small, along the jaws of the Kurz :-) You are a tease! I was waiting to see you place any of the headstock, tailstock or cross slide on the bed :-)
As soon as I saw that 4f, doc, rpm, and feed I knew what was comin. That was a rookie mistake Joe and I'm glad you showed it. We know you're no rookie(I do at least) and that you had it in the back of your mind that that could happen. Sometimes we get in a hurry and end up biting ourselves because of it. The other day I cut two 8" pockets both with one open end. They were 1/16" wide down .055" with a 1/16" three flute carbide ball nose. I had one tool supplied by the customer. The tool manufacturer recommended 22k rpm. my spindle goes 5500, but it is terrifying at that speed. I ran 3500rpm. After monitoring chips and some listening I kept the doc at 3-4 thousandths per pass down to size no fluids just air for chip removal. Nothing bad happened except for the pain of exercising a whole lot of patience not testing what a .010 DOC cut would do. haha. That 2f spiral upcut was the right tool. If I'm in a bind and have to use a four flute in AL like that I handle it like a micro face milling operation and give it air for chip removal with a decent feed rate. Or for a near net doc drop the rpms in half and feel out the chip load. That's all granted it is a freshish end mill. I've waded quite a few 4 flutes with AL. once had the AL stuck in the flutes friction weld to a part and yank it up and out of the vice. Machining is still a treat though.
That cutter was more than capable of making that cut. Higher RPM and better coolant control and...multiple passes would have worked just fine. I pushed my luck and it loaded up.
I guess the next video will be hand scraping the ways (jk). I enjoy your videos and they remind me of my Austin roots, my uncle is a retired art teacher he finished at Bowie and my cousin was the athletic director for all Austin schools. My grandfather was the business agent for local 286 in the 40’s. Thanks for your content.
i use a shop vac with an attachment for a smaller diameter opening to suck up the chips while i'm milling and after. got tired of being covered in chips and cutting fluid only to have to clean up the whole shop floor when i'm done. shop vac does a great job containing the chips and i'm not using compressed air to spray loose ones all over the place like i used to. i might use some compressed air for the stuff stuck to the part.
I put some Locline on my little mill to use with a vacuum, not great but works fairly well. Still a bit to clean up after cutting, especially if I'm using a roughing mill and "deep" cuts.
Excellent job. Maybe I'm slow or naybe I missed it somehow, but I did not see how you position the 45 tool and measure the how much to go in. If you can explain, thanks.
You are "treading with the angels" machining the legs with a fly cutter! Use roughing or high-helix cutter for narrow slots! I have the same problem (even with 2-flute & roughing cutters in aluminum) when CNC milling. My theory goes like this: milling cutters do not like material "on 3 sides". How to start a deep slot? I program CNC to wiggle sideways as it traverses the slot (you can do this manually too, tough, but not impossible, in this narrow case). Most of the time, there is "material on only 2 sides" & the cutter does not clog! Other machinists say I'm crazy, but their trash cans tell a different story!) Another trick is to drill a series of holes almost as deep as the slot. As the cutter breaks into the next hole, it clears. This lathe bed is not designed as well as mine (Maximat 11). The maximat 11 (& all other modern lathes I've seen) have a single V-way, and a single flat way each for tailstock & carriage. This way, there is no "mechanical indeterminacy" if distances don't precisely match. Use the headstock, tailstock, & carriage as lapping tools to clean up the bed machining marks.
Here's a thought for you: when this lathe is done, use it to make another lathe half again larger. Then, use that lathe to make a bigger lathe, and so on. Work your way up to recreating your top end engine lathe and mill. And, for the topper, use those to make a second miniature lathe. There's a decade worth of videos for you! #ChaoticEvil #IHaveToLiveWithThisBrain
Back in the old days those ways could have been done on the shaper and then you could have done one set complete with a form tool and the other set complete with the form tool. Nice work!
Best 40 minutes of my entire day. And as I have said before, no Joe Pieczynski video is compete without the word unlosesning being said ! !
I had to do it.
That is super cool. Can't wait to see you put the carriage and tail stock on. I may have called you a name or two when you said we have to wait to see that. 😁
@@joepie221 A Joe Pie video is not complete without an "unloosen".
You're a great teacher Joe .. explaining 'why' you do things is a huge plus for the many garage machinists that watch your videos.
Wow!!! The machining is art ... and your ability to film it all is masterful! Thanks for sharing!
lol, i'll give you a thumbs-up for his machining abilities, both artistically-inclined, as well as scientific (ah, but where does art end and science begin though?...) but you clearly don't watch a lot of machining videos because let's just say he has lots of room for improvement in terms of filming his work. :) if you want to see some _really_ masterful machining videos, check out clickspring (i especially liked his byzantine sundial calendar 1000 hrs megamix video: watch?v=Uc-hUvbqqh8). that criticism notwithstanding, i prefer this dude joe pieczyski's channel over all others ever since i found it, because he is not only a *top* notch machinist (i think, i don't really know...more on that following), but he also shares his deep deep knowledge with us. even simple practical tips like in this video when he warned us not to blast-out chips with compressed air in situations when they can fly in crazy uncontrolled ways...that stuff is PEARLS of wisdom! and then he has awesome videos where he totally digs into the math of how to reason-about, and calculate and layout features, it's all just dead good. lol, the funniest thing is, i only took metal shop in 7th grade in the early 80s and dgaf, and now as an adult i do not work as a machinist, nor even have any of these tools, but i can't stop watching this stuff!...at least thanks to this dude i feel that if i ever got a chance to get into a machine shop i could understand what was going on. :)
peace
Thanks for your support and positive comment. I do plan to upgrade my lighting and editing software. Chris at Clickspring is amazing in all aspects of his presentations.
@@joepie221 well, i thank YOU for sharing your fantastic work and deep wisdom and intelligence with us. i've been going through your older videos over the past few days and they are gold. also, i just checked your channel page and you've done scientific machining work for the us and canadian governments...lol, i _knew_ you were a great machinist, not just playing one on youtube! xD you ever thought about getting a patreon account? it don't look like you need the cash, but it'd be helpful for getting all the requisite cameras and mics and software you'll need to surpass chris at clickspring. ;) another channel i think is great, though he doesn't give near as much info as you, is cutting edge engineering from australia; dude is a 1-man-gang. lol, youtube is so cool! thanks again. peace
As a retired tool/model maker, I've always been impressed with you not only explaining what, and how, but also the why. Even we old farts sometimes need reminding. Thanks!
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
I am always impressed by people of any trade that know exactly what needs to be done and knows how to do it. You sir are a master at what you do.
People look at the finished product and don't realize the work you put into making fixtures to machine some of the parts. There is a lot more work than meets the eyes. Keep up the good work Joe.
Thats very true.
Joe, wonderful job as always. One small tip from my side; I started to hate the countersunk screws especially in small sizes (M2, M3) and in (soft) A2 Stainless. Then I switched to the Torx versions and became a happy man when it's about tightening or loosening small countersunk screws. You can really torque these small sizes with a Torx drive with confidence again (within reason of course). Even the M2 ones. Try it and you will be surprised. I'm not a screw you salesman; just a driven technician like you are. Thank you Joe! You blew my week out with a smile! Best, Job
@@marley589 galvanic corrosion specifically describes that which occurs between two dissimilar metals and it has been around far longer than screws.
What other steel type fastener were you suggesting to be used when fastening aluminum?
@@marley589 only reason to use a plastic washer between ss and aluminum is to prevent marring a surface, but structurally it would be the wrong thing to do. What would be an everyday application where a ss steel fastener shouldn't be used in aluminum so I can relate better to what your convening.
@@marley589 so you couldn't cite an everyday example of an application where you shouldn't use ss in aluminum, because it's not advisable?
Why didn't you correct Joe, that it's not advisable to use those ss screw with the aluminum fixture and strap clamps?
Joe that turned out really nice . I'm a 60 year old beginner and hope to achieve that quality of workmanship one day and Thanks for the videos
The full-size bed on which this model was based was a very advanced design for its day. Modern improvements were mainly to the headstock.
Nice work, as usual, Joe.
'Sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes you get the shaft.' 😂🤣😂🤣 So true!!
Best tidbit, "actual cutting time, 28 minutes". Thanks again Joe.
This is shaping up to be a masterpiece. well done Joe! Don't forget to make a tiny Zippo and pack of ciggies to put on the headstock somewhere.
LOL, that would be fun and realistic, if we go back a few decades :-)
Hi Joe,
Another great video! I particularly appreciate the way you talk us through your thought process. As you know, one of the things (above and beyond skill and knowledge of the subject matter) that separates master tradesmen from journeymen and apprentices is their ability to pass those skills and knowledge to the next generation. That is, true master tradesmen must also be teachers. You have that talent in spades.
Thanks for sharing! Be well & Best regards, Gottfried
Kudos to you Joe!
I've been wearing out the soles of my boots on a shop floor for over 56 years now and still find that there are new techniques to learn every step of the way. While some think they know it all, the one thing they don't know is that they can't.
Even in retirement, I still have a fairly well equipped hobby machineshop to play in ;)
I would like to believe, "'I.m right there beside ya!
Man, I was holding my breath while you were fly cutting those legs!!
Jet another masterpiece, great work Joe, i can keep watching your videos over and over again.
The craftsmanship is impeccable. The closeup photography with lighting is some of the best I've seen. You constantly move the mark! Thanks for the looksee.
Thanks. Sometimes the glare messes with the camera, but without lighting, I can't see what I'm doing.
Oh my - those bed rails had me thinking - and not easily coming up with any good ideas. Thus - intrigued to see what you'd come up with Joe.! Your explanation of solutions made absolute sense - despite the extra work a fixture certainly seems the way to go and is most elegant. I 'ouched' big time when the small cutter broke - I hate the stress when using tiny cutters!
This whole piece has been a tour de force - kudos Joe, wonderful job, immaculate. Bravo :)
Thanks for your comment.
You have me through all your videos. Rapt and attentive. Then you say "unloosen". Do you mean loosen? Unloosen = tighten. You do amazing work my friend.
It's an inside joke. He says it all the time just to stir people.
@@CreaseysWorkshop Thanks for letting me in on the joke. Now I can breathe again.
Dang it Joe! I haven't gotten a single thing done in two days since I come across this mini-lathe series. Had to binge watch.
Others have given you enough (well deserved) compliments so I'll dispense with those.
As a retired camera repairman I got a chuckle watching you fumble assembling the "small" pieces.
Thanks for sharing. I'm learning sooo much from you.
I am absolutely loving watching this come together. The transformation of this piece during this video is a joyful sight.
Joe, you knocked it out of the park again. Thanks for sharing your time and talents.
Fantastic, I have learned more watching your videos than I learned from the tool and die maker who taught me originally. Thanks Joe.
Muted the machine noise but not muted the compressed air... suffered with headphones !Bravo
Great work! & And a super great video! Thanks for taking the time and effort to bring all this to us / for us. Thank you!!!
It's a joy to watch you work.
Thanks for letting us in your shop.
That really came out nice ! Sometimes making the fixture to hold the part is an art itself , you are a master at that . Thanks for taking us along . 😊 !
Thanks. I like fixtures.
18:20 what a swell guy, protecting my eyes when I don't have safety glasses on.
You're welcome....
Absolutely gorgeous, Joe! I hope you’re enjoying making this as much as I’m enjoying the journey!!
Thanks for yet another masterclass.
Thanks for watching John. Always good to hear from you.
That is a beauty! And polishing those ways to look like they were ground was a great idea. Keep em coming Joe!
The contrast set it off nicely.
Beautiful work as always! Looks good after you hit it with the polish, gives it the ground look. The explanation and tips about clamping it as you did were also great, along with the tip on the screws at the end. Thanks for sharing it with us.
“Some days you get the elevator, some days you get the shaft” - haven’t heard that one in donkey’s years! I suspect most days you get the elevator, Joe! You ROCK!
You want Rock? With this subject? Try Jerry Reed.
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I wouldn’t worry about the tooling marks. I would just tell everybody you took the time to hand scrape it and the marks are to scale
That's awesome, another great job Joe, thank you!
Stay safe, healthy, & prosperous everyone!
When you hit the slow-mo at 17:45 I knew what was coming.
I learn something every time I watch one of your videos! Great job
Wow, that lollipop is a great visual aid! Great idea, simple but very effective.
Very nice. The final reveal should be spectacular! Thanks Joe.
Brilliant machining Joe once again, a masterclass right there. Thanks Joe. Regards from Wales
Glad you enjoyed it
I can say that you never disappoint, Bravo for such a clean looking piece.
Loved the fixturing. Made all the operations so clean.
another great video joe. Your approach to challenging set ups is always interesting i would like to see you spend some time explaining cutting the 45 degree features. maybe a separate video with some time at the white board.
Definitely a BIG win. I was puckered up just watching. 👍👍😎👍👍
I'm headed off to confessional ... I need forgiveness for the sinful moment of joy I felt when the end mill broke. I know, it's wrong. But I think, between the confessional and a couple hours of therapy with my psyche, I can return to the shop and brake my own tooling guilt free!
I am really enjoying these miniature projects. You Sir are a true craftsman.THANK YOU. PS. You need a shop vacuum to remove those chips a lot safer than blowing them remember you only get one set of eyes. THANK YOU.
I really like the details you incorporate in this project. Great job.
You are a really good machinist. So much to be learnt just watching you work.
Thank you Joe.
Thank you very much. I enjoy what I do.
@@joepie221 It shows. Very inspiring.
Gday Joe, your a bugger mate, leaving us all hanging till the end to see the components sitting on the ways but that’s alright we can wait, we’re got patients😉, the top of the ways look beautiful and with a little polish really did the job, I can u understand why your glad this part is done now, I’d be shitting myself if I was doing it, awesome job mate, throughly enjoyed watching, cheers Matty
Turned out nice again, I’m glad you clamped it down and not stuck it in a vice.
I didn't want to be accused of over kill on the fixture, but it always good to clamp solid surfaces. So I went for it.
Joe, your fixture wasn’t overkill it was the correct way to do that operation, it’s exactly what I expected you to do. Sometimes a good fixture is the only way. Keep up the good work and I’m glad you’re enjoying this project.
I used to use air to blow off chips and sawdust, but I worked in a shop where if the boss caught you using air he let you know in no uncertain terms that it was NOT allowed in his shop. We had to use a shop vacuum because the air would blow dirt back into slides and bearings where you can't clean.
Thank you again Joe. Coming along nicely and learning much along the way. Looking forward to see some parts mounted in that.
Thanks alot Joe. I just spent 45 minutes watching Your video when I should be working
I was really looking forward to watching You machine the bed. You didnt dissapoint. Thanks
Bet you did more thinking watching Joe then if you were working.
I am really enjoying watching this project done well. Learning all sort of things.
Thanks, Joe. Always a pleasure watching you work.
Thanks for tuning in.
Another excellent tutorial from you Joe - thanks for sharing your skills and thinking - much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice Joe! You are going to have a beautiful model to display in your glass case. Thanks for the Patreon preview. Thank you for discussing the tools used in these setups. I’d love to hear speeds and feeds to go along with the tool description. Thank you, you are a great teacher!
Thanks John. Always good to get a comment from you.
Very nice. I can't wait to see all components com together. I shure Woult like to have such a workshop. The last time I used a lathe was at school 1968. Greetings from Holland.
Thank You for yet another outstanding video, your attention to detail shows in the quality of your work.....
Thank you very much!
Very nice Joe , I enjoy watching a true Craftsman ,Thanks
Can’t wait to see you using the finished masterpiece!
Yes!!! First time I’ve EVER been first thumbs up!!! Joe, you’re a natural - I really appreciate the efforts you put into the production as well as the machining expertise and background info... keep’em coming, we’ll all keep supporting!
Congrats on being the first comment. Thanks.
Next time you see a 'bag-less' vacuum cleaner dumped at side of road, stop and pick it up.
Usually they are OK or may need one of the hoses cleaned out (people try and vacuum magazines and stuff) if it doesn't run, just leave it out again until the next one comes along.
I picked up a Dyson and a Bissel left out for trash man, Dyson only needed shredded paper removed, Bissel went straight into garage next to mini lathe (after checking outside on driveway - just in case it was full of bugs or something)
It's better than blowing tiny chips around
Man, that looks like jewellery, nice work.
Excellent work, thank you for sharing us this magnificent masterwork, i'm really enjoying watching this every video you share
JOE JOE JOE YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS INCREDIBLE UNLIKE MANY THANKS FOR SHARING
Thanks. I believe if you're going to do something, take the time to do it right.
Wonderful build!
As for the first endmill - I was sure it's going to snap much earlier - a thin endmill like that with such a deep cut.
I take very small passes (but my motor is tiny, and will stall while snapping the endmill... ).
Thanks for the tips!
Hey Joe- great video as always and appreciate the discussion about fixturing and applied its use here. The Slow -mo video got my attention as it did everyone else. PM should be sending you royalty checks . Thanks
I'd gladly accept them. Maybe they'd like to buy this model when I'm done.
Hi Joe,
Shame that end mill broke, but the end result is flawless. Another example of quality machining. Looking forward to the next video. You and the family stay safe.
I was ready for that. I usually don't use 4 flute cutters on aluminum. NOT A FAN. Thanks for your well wishes. Got my 2nd vaccine shot today and staying healthy. I hope you are too.
I got my “unloosen” @ 4:23 remaining in the video. That’s a long time to hold my breath. Those 45 degree rails are magnificent by the way.
As always, nice job.
And here I thought you were going to have to build a minature planer to machine the bed. 🙄
For people looking to purchase Woodruff Keyseat Cutters. They come in two different types. The straight tooth as Joe is using here. And they come in Staggered Tooth types. The Stagger Toothed ones cut far better in tougher materials with less chatter. They cost a little more but there are times they are definitely worth it.
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So do Stagger Toothed Cutters made to correspond to standard Woodruff Keyseats. Tee Slot Cutters generally have a longer relieved section on the shank so as to clear the critical width of the Tee Slot. Plus Stagger Toothed Keyseat Cutters are dimensionally the same as standard cutters. Where as Tee Slot Cutters are generally of more robust design due to having the clear more chips.
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As usual Joe, it turned out beautifully. An enjoyable watch and learn video , very cool looking when it is completed. Cheers!
I'm putting this under glass when its done. I'll enjoy looking at it for a long time. I just received a shaper model from a supporter.
Fantastic work you do and explaining your self. Thumbs 👍
Looks beautiful cant wait to see the head stock and gear train stay healthy
Those "were " light cuts indeed. Hardly visible for sure. In the day DRO's were few and far between so basically all I know is to work against or with backlash always present. Even on the tightest machines. It is what I was taught and still do to this day. Love having a couple dial indicators though eh. There is a lot more to this piece than meets the initial eye indeed. A good amount of time was needed to get it figured out and executed. Well done Joe. It looks great ! ZOOM, that was a fast 40 min fella !
Having a few special cutters really helped too. Thanks for your comment.
@@joepie221 I can only imagine your tool room. Tool and die are one area I always wanted to do. Lots of head scratching I bet.
Looking fantastic that! Would be great if you could do one of your whiteboard masterclasses to explain how you set up the numbers for cutting the 45 degree ways.
WOW!! Absolutely amazing work!
That is a Win in every sense of the word, That looks Awesome work & as always some great advice.
You sir are a legend..
Thanks for the compliment. I've had a lot of practice.
That was a great video, packed with hints and tips, and the bed looks beautiful and small, along the jaws of the Kurz :-)
You are a tease! I was waiting to see you place any of the headstock, tailstock or cross slide on the bed :-)
That's a win, WIN! Fantastic work!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Joe once again you have amazed me with your videos . I love watching your work. your a amazing man
Thank you very much!
Excellent as always Joe. Thank you.
As soon as I saw that 4f, doc, rpm, and feed I knew what was comin. That was a rookie mistake Joe and I'm glad you showed it. We know you're no rookie(I do at least) and that you had it in the back of your mind that that could happen. Sometimes we get in a hurry and end up biting ourselves because of it. The other day I cut two 8" pockets both with one open end. They were 1/16" wide down .055" with a 1/16" three flute carbide ball nose. I had one tool supplied by the customer. The tool manufacturer recommended 22k rpm. my spindle goes 5500, but it is terrifying at that speed. I ran 3500rpm. After monitoring chips and some listening I kept the doc at 3-4 thousandths per pass down to size no fluids just air for chip removal. Nothing bad happened except for the pain of exercising a whole lot of patience not testing what a .010 DOC cut would do. haha.
That 2f spiral upcut was the right tool. If I'm in a bind and have to use a four flute in AL like that I handle it like a micro face milling operation and give it air for chip removal with a decent feed rate. Or for a near net doc drop the rpms in half and feel out the chip load. That's all granted it is a freshish end mill. I've waded quite a few 4 flutes with AL. once had the AL stuck in the flutes friction weld to a part and yank it up and out of the vice. Machining is still a treat though.
That cutter was more than capable of making that cut. Higher RPM and better coolant control and...multiple passes would have worked just fine. I pushed my luck and it loaded up.
I guess the next video will be hand scraping the ways (jk). I enjoy your videos and they remind me of my Austin roots, my uncle is a retired art teacher he finished at Bowie and my cousin was the athletic director for all Austin schools. My grandfather was the business agent for local 286 in the 40’s. Thanks for your content.
Thank you Joe great tips from a true master craftsman!
Next step: hey, this is not on the same level of Joe waves, let's make it of cast iron! Well done, master!
You are a brave man.... "Dusting" the bottom of those legs with a Flycutter....!
i use a shop vac with an attachment for a smaller diameter opening to suck up the chips while i'm milling and after. got tired of being covered in chips and cutting fluid only to have to clean up the whole shop floor when i'm done. shop vac does a great job containing the chips and i'm not using compressed air to spray loose ones all over the place like i used to. i might use some compressed air for the stuff stuck to the part.
I put some Locline on my little mill to use with a vacuum, not great but works fairly well. Still a bit to clean up after cutting, especially if I'm using a roughing mill and "deep" cuts.
Excellent job. Maybe I'm slow or naybe I missed it somehow, but I did not see how you position the 45 tool and measure the how much to go in. If you can explain, thanks.
You are "treading with the angels" machining the legs with a fly cutter!
Use roughing or high-helix cutter for narrow slots! I have the same problem (even with 2-flute & roughing cutters in aluminum) when CNC milling. My theory goes like this: milling cutters do not like material "on 3 sides". How to start a deep slot? I program CNC to wiggle sideways as it traverses the slot (you can do this manually too, tough, but not impossible, in this narrow case). Most of the time, there is "material on only 2 sides" & the cutter does not clog! Other machinists say I'm crazy, but their trash cans tell a different story!) Another trick is to drill a series of holes almost as deep as the slot. As the cutter breaks into the next hole, it clears.
This lathe bed is not designed as well as mine (Maximat 11). The maximat 11 (& all other modern lathes I've seen) have a single V-way, and a single flat way each for tailstock & carriage. This way, there is no "mechanical indeterminacy" if distances don't precisely match.
Use the headstock, tailstock, & carriage as lapping tools to clean up the bed machining marks.
Always wondered how it was done, now I know thanks Joe.
I saw that coming! I’m glad I’m not the only one that breaks 4 fluters!
Here's a thought for you: when this lathe is done, use it to make another lathe half again larger. Then, use that lathe to make a bigger lathe, and so on. Work your way up to recreating your top end engine lathe and mill. And, for the topper, use those to make a second miniature lathe. There's a decade worth of videos for you! #ChaoticEvil #IHaveToLiveWithThisBrain
Beautiful, great job, congratulations.
Thanks again !
Beautiful workmanship
Great video, as usual. Thanks, Joe.
Back in the old days those ways could have been done on the shaper and then you could have done one set complete with a form tool and the other set complete with the form tool. Nice work!
Thank you.
Wow. Great video as always. Thanks for sharing
You make it look sooooo easy! great video!
Nice work Joe. It's a beauty