Hey Justin! Thanks for making this game, it's awesome! And also a big thanks for the Rupees on floor 3 ;) I'd say we could push this down to a sub 20, just need to pray a bit to the RNG gods.
@@boomst1ck I just found that if you synergize the magic cape with the pendant of magic you can spam the "item" button for infinite magic and thought I might have some GAME BREAKING edge to try and get WR but then saw this video and realized it doesn't even matter 🥵
Wow that's impressive run my friend! I'm not a speed runner but I thought I would try your strategies and see how far it got me and I made it 55.55.17, I did it without the moon pearl, I'm sure I could do better if I had it.
A couple a weeks ago 55-ish was WR, and getting a sub hour was insane :D just keep at it! My fastest run without key nor pearl was 44, so getting both of those saves ALOT of time
@@boomst1ck I just ran a game and got around 39 min so I've improved a bit, no moon pearl. I hate the RNG on that. Do you just reset if they don't both spawn at the store in town?
@@Maverick911011 yup, afaik the store in town is the only place you can get either the key or the moon pearl. so if they aren't there it's an reset. getting to the village should take about 10min so it's not that bad of a reset point, but it takes some grinding to get a decent rng run.
@@Clone24a indeed! preferably you'd have at least 3 bombs going into the fight, that way you can kill all of them instantly and then just handle the pink one.
@@boomst1ckI wonder what would happen if you kept bombing them all at the same time. Would they all die at once or would you still have to fight the pink one?
Is this an any% run using mods? I noticed never once was there a dark room also for a randomized game seemed to know exactly where to go like its the same maps everytime when its supposed to be random. Impressive none the less.
Different game altogether from LttP. It's a roguelike based on it. Uses the same sprites for Link and the enemies, borrows a few others for character choices, but otherwise, it is it's own beast.
nice run, I never had one where I could afford pearl + master key without doing the trade sequence... maybe I should pick rupees as starting item instead
I’ve seen a speed run around 45 minutes. Didn’t think under 40 was possible. Now I see that even this run could’ve been optimized a bit more. It would take a lot of luck though
yeah, at first I was in love with this game, but when I saw what the end boss does (avoiding spoilers) that was a deal breaker for me. In my opinion it makes everything you do before entirely pointless.
Fair enough, and I kinda agree. It's just that you could easily neglect the dark rooms by cranking your gamma way up anyways, which would become the standard.
The pathing in this run is suspect to me. At 14:54 you entered a long room and got 90% through it just to back track to the beginning of the room to pick up the blue tunic in a chest. 18:58 you go out of your way just to grab a room full of rupees. The only other times you entered a room that had a block was when the correct pathing was behind the block. You just had to perfectly detour around it.
It’s two things, the run itself was pretty much good RNG on the pathing, which I'm not denying. The second part is you're not familiar enough with the logic. Let me explain: 14:54 This one is explained rather easily. I didn't properly memorize the layout of the room to the right of this "long hallway". After getting almost to the door I notice on the map this is a room I've already been in. So I figured it would most likely contain a key or switch and decided to check the room to the left instead. 18:58 Here I'm looking for progression, since I have both the Big Key and the Moon Pearl neither a key or a switch is progression. At 18:48 I see a path blocked by the blue switch barrier, which is exactly what I was looking for. Since it should be progression towards the next floor. However, right after the barrier I find a key in the chest. This made me unsure if this path will lead me further in the dungeon, or if it was just one part of the puzzle to get a key. Often times a key that's needed for a door somewhere else will be locked behind a switch barrier. So this made me unsure about this path, and I remembered passing a doorway leading to the right in the same room, which potentially could have the locked door for this key. Alas, it didn't and going down was the correct choice all along. At this point in the run, those rupees are useless, so it would be terrible routing by me if I went out of my way to knowingly grab it. Hope this helps, else you can just continue to suspect me of cheating I guess..? :)
just always be running whenever he is casting something, and if its blue balls just dodge two then head back the direction you ran for the last two. then everytime he spawns top mid he will do the bombs, and everytime he spawns bottom mid he will do the "suck"-attack. you'll get it! i believe in u!
I'm unsure what the point of taking your items for the final confrontation is considering the genre of this game, very strange design choice by the dev
From what I've heard/read, apparently it was the product of a big burn-out period on the dev's part. In hindsight, it's not surprising in the least - most fan-games like this run into that same sort of Burnt-Out Endgame syndrome, to varying degrees.
Very unfortunate, I also watched the Vinny Vinestream VOD here on UA-cam and his chat said the dev was adamant about keeping that boss as is. Burn-out or not it seems so sad that all the work put in ends in a betrayal of the entire journey as a player and all the work as the dev. The dev certainly has the right to choose all aspects of their game but this feels like they cut off their nose to spite their face.
@@kagato0987I still think it’s plenty hard enough even before the boss. For a free game it’s quite polished. Definitely a time waster on the steam deck on a plane. I applaud the guy.
@@frankrodriguez1981 I'm in this same camp, honestly. I haven't even downloaded the latest update (I got mine when there was still a link on the website, hah!), but the core game itself is really good - just making it to Agahnim at all felt like a victory for me.
I don't really mind. Last boss is just a formality in this game, it's about the journey to get there :) But I understand where you're coming from, it's missing that feeling you get when you had such a good run that the last boss just melts in seconds.
@@boomst1ck my grandma was an avid gamer. Samus was by far her favorite character. I remember how excited she was, after completing the first Metroid, that the main character was a woman. For a lady born in 1923, it was a huge deal.
@@jakestablettableto9453 why haven’t I done it? For starters, the game is so cryptic that you’d have to have a guide to figure out half the steps to get through this game. Secondly, defeating enemies is intended but not required most of the time, making a fair majority of threats game pointless. Thirdly, I don’t have the emulator to run it. Should I continue? At no point was I trying to be negative with my initial comment. It clearly shows that the developers of this hack had other things to focus on than enemies
![Archvale Any% Speedrun 01:05:29 [WR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7C35dQbSCwg/mqdefault.jpg)
Hi, this is Justin, creator of this game. 26 mins is insanely fast, never thought this would ever be possible. Congrats!
Great game. Thnx for making
Hey Justin! Thanks for making this game, it's awesome! And also a big thanks for the Rupees on floor 3 ;)
I'd say we could push this down to a sub 20, just need to pray a bit to the RNG gods.
@@boomst1ck I just found that if you synergize the magic cape with the pendant of magic you can spam the "item" button for infinite magic and thought I might have some GAME BREAKING edge to try and get WR but then saw this video and realized it doesn't even matter 🥵
@@scratchmonkey That was fixed in one of the latest builds
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Sick run! This game has some great potential
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Wow that's impressive run my friend! I'm not a speed runner but I thought I would try your strategies and see how far it got me and I made it 55.55.17, I did it without the moon pearl, I'm sure I could do better if I had it.
A couple a weeks ago 55-ish was WR, and getting a sub hour was insane :D just keep at it!
My fastest run without key nor pearl was 44, so getting both of those saves ALOT of time
@@boomst1ck I just ran a game and got around 39 min so I've improved a bit, no moon pearl. I hate the RNG on that. Do you just reset if they don't both spawn at the store in town?
@@Maverick911011 yup, afaik the store in town is the only place you can get either the key or the moon pearl.
so if they aren't there it's an reset.
getting to the village should take about 10min so it's not that bad of a reset point, but it takes some grinding to get a decent rng run.
Also the gem drop rate and damage of that sword is out of this world in that first boss fight
I think the two bombs at the start of the fight might of done something
@@Clone24a indeed! preferably you'd have at least 3 bombs going into the fight, that way you can kill all of them instantly and then just handle the pink one.
@@boomst1ckI wonder what would happen if you kept bombing them all at the same time. Would they all die at once or would you still have to fight the pink one?
Is this an any% run using mods? I noticed never once was there a dark room also for a randomized game seemed to know exactly where to go like its the same maps everytime when its supposed to be random. Impressive none the less.
Different game altogether from LttP. It's a roguelike based on it. Uses the same sprites for Link and the enemies, borrows a few others for character choices, but otherwise, it is it's own beast.
nice run, I never had one where I could afford pearl + master key without doing the trade sequence... maybe I should pick rupees as starting item instead
100 startin rupees is the only one that made sense for me. cash is king, more health is just a "git gud" moment :D
so this is waht you have been up to nowadays, looks fun.
haha nah, just felt like spending a few hours trying a few runs :) if you enjoy roguelikes and snes zelda I couldn't recommend this game more tho!
I’ve seen a speed run around 45 minutes. Didn’t think under 40 was possible. Now I see that even this run could’ve been optimized a bit more. It would take a lot of luck though
My sum of best segments is at 16:50. I'd say with perfect rng and playing more optimized sub 20 is doable.
So what I'm seeing is you should absolutely prioritize the cape
You pretty much need cape, big key and moon pearl after leaving village to have a shot at a good time.
That was sick!
The magic cape of invisibility shouldn't provide immunity to spikes.
Well, it worked like that in the original game too. It even allowed you to phase through certain objects.
yeah, at first I was in love with this game, but when I saw what the end boss does (avoiding spoilers) that was a deal breaker for me. In my opinion it makes everything you do before entirely pointless.
If you take the items away, you should give them back in phase 2 or 3. Much like Rick of rain does.
@@robertdascoli949 yes, I also say somewhere else an excellent suggestion of having him drop a random item from what was taken every time you hit him.
lots of comments about the dark rooms here, im more wondering about how you flipped the red/blue switches without hitting them
That's what the "Moon Pearl"-item does.
Got to Aga today but sadly only got 3 hits in. I think I need a break from it...
You can do it!
So did you ever manage to beat it?
@@dlcook I did!
@@seaotter7927 Nice! Once you figure him out, it really is easy. I've beaten him a bunch of times without even taking damage. The game is addictive
will there be a speedgaming tournament?
Getting the rupee curse is so unlucky LOL
Yeah, the only curse that would be worse would be the "shops won't sell to you" curse.
Cool run for sure, but deactivating the dark rooms is definitely cheating in my book.
Fair enough, and I kinda agree. It's just that you could easily neglect the dark rooms by cranking your gamma way up anyways, which would become the standard.
@boomst1ck crt mode helps lighten it too
@@boomst1ckthat’s a good point.
The pathing in this run is suspect to me. At 14:54 you entered a long room and got 90% through it just to back track to the beginning of the room to pick up the blue tunic in a chest.
18:58 you go out of your way just to grab a room full of rupees.
The only other times you entered a room that had a block was when the correct pathing was behind the block. You just had to perfectly detour around it.
It’s two things, the run itself was pretty much good RNG on the pathing, which I'm not denying. The second part is you're not familiar enough with the logic. Let me explain:
14:54
This one is explained rather easily. I didn't properly memorize the layout of the room to the right of this "long hallway". After getting almost to the door I notice on the map this is a room I've already been in.
So I figured it would most likely contain a key or switch and decided to check the room to the left instead.
18:58
Here I'm looking for progression, since I have both the Big Key and the Moon Pearl neither a key or a switch is progression.
At 18:48 I see a path blocked by the blue switch barrier, which is exactly what I was looking for. Since it should be progression towards the next floor.
However, right after the barrier I find a key in the chest. This made me unsure if this path will lead me further in the dungeon, or if it was just one part of the puzzle to get a key. Often times a key that's needed for a door somewhere else will be locked behind a switch barrier.
So this made me unsure about this path, and I remembered passing a doorway leading to the right in the same room, which potentially could have the locked door for this key. Alas, it didn't and going down was the correct choice all along.
At this point in the run, those rupees are useless, so it would be terrible routing by me if I went out of my way to knowingly grab it.
Hope this helps, else you can just continue to suspect me of cheating I guess..? :)
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So far your the only guy I've seen to beat Agahnim, without items it's all about speed and timing (2 things I suck at)
just always be running whenever he is casting something, and if its blue balls just dodge two then head back the direction you ran for the last two.
then everytime he spawns top mid he will do the bombs, and everytime he spawns bottom mid he will do the "suck"-attack.
you'll get it! i believe in u!
@@boomst1ck haven't actually figured out how to download it yet lol
@@Trasc066 google is your friend! it should lead you into a discord server where you can find the download link.
Nice. Didn’t know you could turn dark rooms off.
Updated description regarding dark rooms.
surprised you don t restart the run with that curse
Good run. Id like to see how it works with the default lighting though
I have a run with default lightning on my channel. It's slower tho, but not because of lightning just worse rng and kinda sloppy gameplay ;)
When i play there is loads of darkness, why isnt there any here?
How can i disable dark rooms?
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I'm unsure what the point of taking your items for the final confrontation is considering the genre of this game, very strange design choice by the dev
From what I've heard/read, apparently it was the product of a big burn-out period on the dev's part. In hindsight, it's not surprising in the least - most fan-games like this run into that same sort of Burnt-Out Endgame syndrome, to varying degrees.
Very unfortunate, I also watched the Vinny Vinestream VOD here on UA-cam and his chat said the dev was adamant about keeping that boss as is. Burn-out or not it seems so sad that all the work put in ends in a betrayal of the entire journey as a player and all the work as the dev. The dev certainly has the right to choose all aspects of their game but this feels like they cut off their nose to spite their face.
@@kagato0987I still think it’s plenty hard enough even before the boss. For a free game it’s quite polished. Definitely a time waster on the steam deck on a plane. I applaud the guy.
@@frankrodriguez1981 I'm in this same camp, honestly. I haven't even downloaded the latest update (I got mine when there was still a link on the website, hah!), but the core game itself is really good - just making it to Agahnim at all felt like a victory for me.
I don't really mind. Last boss is just a formality in this game, it's about the journey to get there :)
But I understand where you're coming from, it's missing that feeling you get when you had such a good run that the last boss just melts in seconds.
is that a Zero Suit Samus sprite?
yup! good eyes :D
@@boomst1ck my grandma was an avid gamer.
Samus was by far her favorite character.
I remember how excited she was, after completing the first Metroid, that the main character was a woman.
For a lady born in 1923, it was a huge deal.
No dark rooms seems a little bit to easy. Did you disable them?
Updated description regarding dark rooms.
Is there a setting to not get dark rooms?
how is ur map fully revealed? dont u need to upgrade ur torch(lamp) to get that or is that an option u can turn on?
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At 9:37 he got the compass which reveals the map!
@@Godines16the compass doesn’t make the darkness in the dungeon light up. And how is he dropping the red/blue walls without hitting the ball??
@@frankrodriguez1981 There's an option to turn off dark rooms, and the Moon Pearl item makes the switch walls always passable.
@@robertmcculloch95 where’s the option??? I only see no lights challenge mode. And I’ve never actually seen the moonpearl yet
Why are the all the rooms at full light?
hio there is a way to "deleat" the darknes for this game (dont ask how it is easy explained in dicord server)
How are there no dark rooms? I never saw that as an option for me
Check the description. If you wish to see a run with dark rooms there's another on my channel.
Thanks!
Any plans for an update?
hm? update on what?
sounds like music form SIM CITY 12:15
No dark rooms?
If this run proves anything, it shows how little you actually need to complete to finish most games. He skipped by 90% of enemies
Sure, why haven't you done it then?
@@jakestablettableto9453 why haven’t I done it? For starters, the game is so cryptic that you’d have to have a guide to figure out half the steps to get through this game. Secondly, defeating enemies is intended but not required most of the time, making a fair majority of threats game pointless. Thirdly, I don’t have the emulator to run it. Should I continue?
At no point was I trying to be negative with my initial comment. It clearly shows that the developers of this hack had other things to focus on than enemies
@@broncosbreaks cool story
@@jakestablettableto9453 that’s your epic retort?! Nice 👍
@@broncosbreaks 😎
Is this a seeded run?
Not seeded, don't even know if you can do seeded runs yet?
They changed the last boss but none of the others? Lol and since this is not a rom hack, it won't stay up long
Why are none of the rooms dark? That was the most irritating part of the whole game for me. Until the end.
the description might have an answer for you :)
@@boomst1ck oh, HA!
How do you not have a single dark room? 🥱🤔
check description my friend