As I understand it from watching ENT physicians on YT talk about Tinnitus, the phantom sound is not a disease in and of itself. Rather, it is a symptom of another disorder. Usually, the #1 problem that causes T is hearing loss. There can be a problem with hearing in a certain frequency range and the brain tries to compensate by "filling in the gaps" with phantom sounds. Thus the ringing, whooshing, howling, growling that we all know...and hate! I'm excited there are new treatments like the Lenire and the Michigan Tinnitus device that are coming online to potentially offer some relief to tinnitus sufferers! That said, spending $3-5K out of pocket for something that may or may not work is a big gamble. I wish there was more data on the type of Tinnitus sufferer that would be helped the most by these new devices. That way, the patient could make a more informed decision on whether to buy a device or go a different direction in their Tinnitus treatment.
I also tried Lenire. I did the full one hour a day (in two thirty minute sessions) for a few weeks and I didn't see any change whatsoever. When I realized that the metric for "success" is completely subjective (a one or two increment improvement on some arbitrary scale that can't be qualified), I decided to stop. I was unable to return them and they cost me $5K.
Hi Doc, Been Diagnosed sensorineural deafness with tinnitus. Is there any cure for this condition? Whenever I am resting or in a sleeping state, ringing starts on both ears. If I sleep on the left, the left ear produces sounds, and vice versa.
A Naturapath took me off all dairy products about 40 years ago and the tinnitus gradually went in a matter of weeks. It only comes back if I ingest dairy again and this can be difficult in a world of dairy foods.
Why is FDA approval even needed for a device that plays sound thru headphones and applies pulses to your tongue?? And why is there no returns/refunds? sketchy at best.
After years, I finally figured out my tinnitus is made significantly worse by doing exercise involving some neck muscular compression such as boxing or pull ups. I should have known this earlier as it started when I started boxing (just in the gym not combat). I find that if I listen to podcasts or YT’s I can push the 14k hiss into the background. I have some high frequency hearing loss but doesn’t bother me.
Been using it for 12 weeks. One of the issues is the program runs for so long, how much of any improvement you see is due to the device or natural habituation. I know for certain I can only do the device 30 minutes a day, if I do the recommended 1 hour it makes things worse. It also quite frequently changes the tones I hear, and not always in a good way. Its a great relaxation tool, and I think in that manner it works, but at least for me it's been unimpressive.
I used this device for 6 months on 2022, and visited Dublin to buy it. After 2 years I can say, that no effect at all for me, and company Neuromod didn't response for my questions when I asked - do they offer me something more or not (change device settings may be). And After 2 years After device using I have my tinnitus, good headphones and remember this very sad music (you will listen to only one music composition on replay every day)
My ear doctor made my mom take Vitamins especially B12. After long term taking it decreased immensely she says to the point she was later able to be in a quiet room.
Since the test was with sound-only, then sound plus stimulus, I wonder why the test didn't include stimulus-only, first, as well, then sound plus stimulus. Further, Inventor-sponsored or manufacturer-sponsored research should always be taken skeptically, until confirmed independently.
Unfortunately Leneir is still VERY expensive and insurance companies are, shall we say, reluctant to covering it. My Dr and I have been trying to get my insurance to cover it since December of last year and I am still getting stonewalled. The fight goes on...
Veterans Administration says they have to do their own research before offering this device to veterans. Since these run around $5K each and most veterans have T, I won't hold my breath for the VA to EVER offer these devices.
So its basically like DBS ....it seems .....the brain is known to have neuroplasticity . Do you have to continually use this treatment to keep tinitus at bay , or is it a permanent method
A skin graft for the hole in my eardrum helped with the tinnitus for a while, but when the graft didn’t hold, the tinnitus started getting louder again.
Maybe the doctor could wait until the actual device and the softwareare released, rather than making negative of the cuff comments based on other people‘s information
I've mostly learned to deal with the tinnitus, to "tune it out" but it would be nice if something could cure it, or even just reduce it. I've lost nearly all the hearing in the affected ear.
Elevating hearing care standards again! Great initiative, looking forward to what this best practices initiative will produce. Lenire does seem to show promise and I also look forward to what a more widespread rollout will teach us. I loved Dr Cook's intervention in another segment about how activating a sound therapy function on a hearing aid is a last step rather than a go-to move in tinnitus treatment. I think it's great to have this option but maybe it should be unlocked when you can prove adapted tinnitus training or something, and not just available to anybody.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear the single most important piece of information I wanted to know. How long did it work? And, how often does it need to be repeated? I've had moderate success with audio only treatments, but the results are not long lasting enough to make them worth while.
Another add stating some form of cure for us tinnitus sufferers! I have at least 50 budgies tweeting in my ears every day! Once every 2/3 months, I have two days of complete silence, which you could say, turns my moods like a jackal and Hyde!
As I understand it from watching ENT physicians on YT talk about Tinnitus, the phantom sound is not a disease in and of itself. Rather, it is a symptom of another disorder. Usually, the #1 problem that causes T is hearing loss. There can be a problem with hearing in a certain frequency range and the brain tries to compensate by "filling in the gaps" with phantom sounds. Thus the ringing, whooshing, howling, growling that we all know...and hate!
I'm excited there are new treatments like the Lenire and the Michigan Tinnitus device that are coming online to potentially offer some relief to tinnitus sufferers! That said, spending $3-5K out of pocket for something that may or may not work is a big gamble. I wish there was more data on the type of Tinnitus sufferer that would be helped the most by these new devices.
That way, the patient could make a more informed decision on whether to buy a device or go a different direction in their Tinnitus treatment.
I’m hopeful something like Neuralink will someday cure tinnitus at the source in the brain.
MI PREGUNTA ES POR QUE LE PONEN MUCHAS TRABAS AL DISPOSITIVO DE LA DOCTORA SUSAN SHORE
I also tried Lenire. I did the full one hour a day (in two thirty minute sessions) for a few weeks and I didn't see any change whatsoever. When I realized that the metric for "success" is completely subjective (a one or two increment improvement on some arbitrary scale that can't be qualified), I decided to stop. I was unable to return them and they cost me $5K.
Maybe I can buy them from you I want to try it
Thank you for sharing this. Sharing this information is important.
Same. Tried it but it’s just snake oil.
Hi Doc, Been Diagnosed sensorineural deafness with tinnitus. Is there any cure for this condition? Whenever I am resting or in a sleeping state, ringing starts on both ears. If I sleep on the left, the left ear produces sounds, and vice versa.
A Naturapath took me off all dairy products about 40 years ago and the tinnitus gradually went in a matter of weeks. It only comes back if I ingest dairy again and this can be difficult in a world of dairy foods.
Why is FDA approval even needed for a device that plays sound thru headphones and applies pulses to your tongue?? And why is there no returns/refunds? sketchy at best.
Agreed
I worked with Dr. Jastraboff a long time ago. Had white noise hearing aids on for hours a day and it didn't help one bit.
After years, I finally figured out my tinnitus is made significantly worse by doing exercise involving some neck muscular compression such as boxing or pull ups. I should have known this earlier as it started when I started boxing (just in the gym not combat). I find that if I listen to podcasts or YT’s I can push the 14k hiss into the background. I have some high frequency hearing loss but doesn’t bother me.
After series visit to ENT, I finally got a doctor who treated me of Tinnitus, thanks so much Dr. Adebayo Ighalo.
After series visit to ENT, I finally got a doctor who treated me of Tinnitus, thanks so much Dr. Adebayo Ighalo.
Hi Dr. Cliff. Can you please do a similar video off the Cleanhearing Sono product?
After series visit to ENT, I finally got a doctor who treated me of Tinnitus, thanks so much Dr. Adebayo Ighalo.
Been using it for 12 weeks. One of the issues is the program runs for so long, how much of any improvement you see is due to the device or natural habituation. I know for certain I can only do the device 30 minutes a day, if I do the recommended 1 hour it makes things worse. It also quite frequently changes the tones I hear, and not always in a good way. Its a great relaxation tool, and I think in that manner it works, but at least for me it's been unimpressive.
The answer is simple..
If it does not work, you just keep trying until it does.
Might as well..
No refunds
..
SCAM
I used this device for 6 months on 2022, and visited Dublin to buy it. After 2 years I can say, that no effect at all for me, and company Neuromod didn't response for my questions when I asked - do they offer me something more or not (change device settings may be). And After 2 years After device using I have my tinnitus, good headphones and remember this very sad music (you will listen to only one music composition on replay every day)
Lenire didn't work for me.
My ear doctor made my mom take Vitamins especially B12. After long term taking it decreased immensely she says to the point she was later able to be in a quiet room.
Same my doctor gave me, ceregine, rise and B12 vitamin but it's work just 30 percent maybe
I’m taking b12 but do you know what’s the best and max possible dose I can take?
@@Rose-xn3hl I am taking some other medicine which prescribed me ENT
@@Rose-xn3hl you can take 500 mg day and 500 mg in night b12
@@Rose-xn3hl I went ENT he gave me good medicines some medicine work on Neuro system
Can I tap my tongue on a 9V battery and listen to some music? $2 solution?
That's exactly what I've been doing☝🏻😐
It will work exactly as well as Lenire tbh, which is not at all
I thought this too
After series visit to ENT, I finally got a doctor who treated me of Tinnitus, thanks so much Dr. Adebayo Ighalo.
Is it good for hyperacusis?
Since the test was with sound-only, then sound plus stimulus, I wonder why the test didn't include stimulus-only, first, as well, then sound plus stimulus.
Further, Inventor-sponsored or manufacturer-sponsored research should always be taken skeptically, until confirmed independently.
Unfortunately it's not widely available yet. Lenire is rolling out slowly.
Unfortunately Leneir is still VERY expensive and insurance companies are, shall we say, reluctant to covering it. My Dr and I have been trying to get my insurance to cover it since December of last year and I am still getting stonewalled. The fight goes on...
Veterans Administration says they have to do their own research before offering this device to veterans. Since these run around $5K each and most veterans have T, I won't hold my breath for the VA to EVER offer these devices.
Id like to try it but it's expensive. I get 10% disability through the VA for my tinnitus. If the VA ever offers it im all over it. What can I lose?
So its basically like DBS ....it seems .....the brain is known to have neuroplasticity . Do you have to continually use this treatment to keep tinitus at bay , or is it a permanent method
A skin graft for the hole in my eardrum helped with the tinnitus for a while, but when the graft didn’t hold, the tinnitus started getting louder again.
Can you do a review on the new Apple Air pods Pro 2 (Hearing Aid).
Is it worth buying the new Airpod Pro 2...??
They are pretty good and you can use apps for tinnitus. Problem is battery life is only about 4-5 hours.
Maybe the doctor could wait until the actual device and the softwareare released, rather than making negative of the cuff comments based on other people‘s information
My best means of escape is an audiobook via my iPods. I actually have a better day thereafter if I have listened for a couple of hours or so.
Exactly what does “7 points” of improvement mean?
1. How expensive?
2. Does it reverse associated brain damage?
I've mostly learned to deal with the tinnitus, to "tune it out" but it would be nice if something could cure it, or even just reduce it. I've lost nearly all the hearing in the affected ear.
I have it, but i ignore it. Don't think about it, gives me relief
Elevating hearing care standards again! Great initiative, looking forward to what this best practices initiative will produce. Lenire does seem to show promise and I also look forward to what a more widespread rollout will teach us. I loved Dr Cook's intervention in another segment about how activating a sound therapy function on a hearing aid is a last step rather than a go-to move in tinnitus treatment. I think it's great to have this option but maybe it should be unlocked when you can prove adapted tinnitus training or something, and not just available to anybody.
Ленир обман,мошейничество.
You think this could be effective for Tinitus starting after otologic surgery. Stapedotomy?
The only time I notice my tinnitus these days is when somebody mentions the topic. Lucky me, I guess.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear the single most important piece of information I wanted to know. How long did it work? And, how often does it need to be repeated? I've had moderate success with audio only treatments, but the results are not long lasting enough to make them worth while.
@@ChipLinck 12 week treatment period and the benefits last at least 1 year based on follow up data.
@@DrCliffAuD That's the ticket. Thanks!
Another add stating some form of cure for us tinnitus sufferers! I have at least 50 budgies tweeting in my ears every day! Once every 2/3 months, I have two days of complete silence, which you could say, turns my moods like a jackal and Hyde!
Any supplement, vitamin, drop, ANYTHING, that makes you feels there is hope is worth trying. I dont care if they dont work.
Honestly even just thinking it's working can help with something like Tinnitus. The majority of it is mental, the brain is powerful.
No it's not worth trying anything. You can do things that can result in worse hearing and worse tinnitus . This is why we have science
Don't waste your money on these type things not any proper cure invented yet
Is this The Michigan Tinnitus Device?
No, it’s not even close.
@@Jupiter_in_suburbia Better?
costs £3,595,
Pl review about phonak Terra plus BTE
..tinn sound therapy use...and relax...and try not think...and ll go downnnn
Fake ❤😂yr tong ??? Problem is yr ear
Nope...waste of money.
A cure?
Disappointing
Please don't tell the VA...
❤❤
Scam