Shepherds Must Have Been Little People | Engels Coach Shop
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- I guess people weren't so big back in the day. This door is 19" wide and 5 feet tall, and is the main structural frame of the front wall of this wagon. After peeling away the repairs and modifications, we'll go back to the original door. Thanks for coming along!
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"I think this part might have been added later" and there I am, staring at the paint underneath the added part..
When you were talking about the shims on the door frame all I could think was it was someone's bodge when the door warped as it would be easier than 'flattening' a door.
Continually amazed how you figure out how to rebuild this wagon.
I love the forensic and archaeological aspect of every video. I'd get completely lost in the pile of rotted wood and rusted iron, thanks for explaining so well the story that it is telling you.
Also, my mom would have loved that door. She was 5' short in her later years, I'm 6'1" and she used to say God gave me to her to get things off the top shelves.
Thanks again, Dave, it's always enjoyable watching.
It wouldn't be much of a world,
if it weren't for people like yourself,
giving freely to the common good.
Watching the wood working if fun for sure. But I think the part that I really like is the historical forensics. Thanks for sharing your thought processes with us.
Nice job of getting it figured out, thanks for the video, enjoyed watching.
Dave: I appreciate your channel on many levels. Your shows are at the top of my list. What keeps me coming back? Here's a few reasons. I wish your work ethic could be packaged, because you faithfully show up and never sacrifice results for expediency. You make forensics the focus of your respect for the work of those who came before us. Your desire to preserve and pass on knowledge is a mission of love and respect. You practice meticulous craftsmanship. Your tools have the care-worn look of use and devotion. Each of your episodes is a master class in how to build things right. Truthfully, . . . you had me at Joliet (I don't live there but I've spent a lot of time fishing in Montana!). Maybe I'll stop by some day (Lord willing). Many thanks for the encyclopedia of your good works.
Far from unusual to find doors only suitable for five footers here in rural Scotland, in pre 1900 buildings. People have grown a lot by each successive generation in the last century and a half!
Mortise and tenon joinery any cabinet maker would be proud of. Great work Dave.
The "little people" part brings back good funny memories from Lockheed and Rolls-Royce. Every meeting we had a fellow manager that would say "I'd like to thank all the little people" when asked if he'd like to say something. The best part was that he's about 5'2" and the rest of us were 5'10"+.
I truly thank the little people. I am an A & P mechanic . There are several places that I can not fit to do work inside airplanes. I thank the little people that can, so I don't have too.
Have a look at willow run building the Liberator. As the last part of the production the outer wing sections are added, this involved little people climbing into the wing and bolting the units together. Thank the little people. We know he meant thank the people doing the small jobs, because without them nothing happens.
@@markthompson4885I was. Working with a plumber 55 years ago he was a bit large had put a cold tank in a loft tiny hatch door rubber tank he sat on it folded in half tied with string up inside cut the string pow came back to normal I did the work with he’s head up inside loft told me what to if in future something goes wrong call a small plumber ha ha
@@anthonywilson4873 Randy Newman would beg to differ with you all
We all got a Master Class in decoding, deciphering and detecting how that door was made. Thank You Dave for these really inspiring videos. From our house to your house Happy Easter.
What's fascinating is how many Mortise, tenons, lap joints. notches, and other intricate joints were in this simple Sheep wagon. you'd think it would have been just simple right angle fittings. and not so much joinery. so who ever built it to begin with has some skills for sure. he wasn't the Shepard!! Thanks for all the great detective work. and with out a doubt the skill set to figure this all out and for taking us along. not to mention the great camera work also. ECF
Wow, only 44 minutes, and already seen by 4.9 thousand people, today is Friday, Holy Day, much Peace to all families, Lois Bernardes, Jaraguá do Sul, SC
Goodness comes Good sometimes. People really appreciate this family, their friends and neighbours. (Ireland, north)
I've watched a bunch of channels over the years, but none are as much fun as watching you work. Plus, as a bonus, I pick up some tips to help improve my 'less precise, wood working skills. I'll never reach your skills, but enjoy seeing them in action. And much appreciate the work you go through to post them for us.
Good logic and nice workmanship. Moving along very nicely. Thank for bringing us along. You make me feel like I need more machines and tools.
That bracket you removed is possibly the base of a wall mounted can opener.
I thought it looked like a base for a internal rear view mirror from a1920's car it could have been an add on.
Amazed. I am just amazed at the amount of information Dave can get from those old pieces of wood nd steel.🙂🙂
Once again thanks for the video.
Great to see the detailed puzzle coming together and learning about how it was done so long ago.
The "inspector" goes thru the details of uncovering hidden secrets. It is a pleasure to see the craftsmanship being uncovered. Thank you for allowing me to peak over your shoulder while you work. God Bless to you and Mrs. Engels. Happy Easter!
really interesting watching you analyze broken bits and pieces of old wood and metal. Then you craft a new one exactly the same. Thanks for sharing.
This is a fascinating project. Reading how the wood tells its story is an amazing skill.
Sir, this old farm boy has watched every one of your videos from the beginning, some a number of times.
It is pure joy listening to you explain the what and why as you work it all out. Your approach of using logic deductive reasoning and common sense are beyond reproach. And, always prove there’s more than one way to do it.
Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to record what you are doing to
for posterity. Future generations will indeed value and appreciate what you have documented.
Take care, Be well, and God Bless.
Ed Belledin
My uneducated guess is, that time has deformed the original door! Plus the weather plays it's part in it too. In those early days, these shepherds had to make do with what they had! Here is another uneducated guess, that these shepherds didn't have much money, so it was probably even more difficult to repair their wagon!? Anyway, thanks for sharing your work with the Internet community! I really appreciate it, thank you!
Another great explanation to help us understand the history of this sheep wagon and it’s journey through its life. The door catch gizmo looks to be an interesting item, let’s hope it can be unfrozen and put back into use. Thanks again to you both and Happy Easter from Scotland.
Many of the Shepherds living in sheep wagons were Basque. Today, their average height is 5' 8.5". Then, who knows? An interesting parallel development to the sheep wagon was that of the Australian shepherd dog. One Basque migration was from Spain to Australia with Rambouillet sheep. They took their bob-tail dogs with them. Those sheep became Merinos. When some of those shepherds migrated again from Australia to the USA, they once again took their dogs with them. That's why these Basque dogs are called Australian shepherds.
Also known as wigglebutts. Mine is currently preening himself on his couch and staying warm and cozy on a cold, wet, windy day.
@@user-dn4iv2ne6r Yes, we have been breeding them for decades. They are out now scaring the coyotes away. Gathering up dirt to bring into the house.
Thank you.
Kelpies and border collies are the most popular sheepdogs in Oz.
@@Mangsaab1954 Yes, I know. It was a moment in time when those dogs came in and out again.
@EngelsCoachShop: For rusted and or seized parts such as that "hoochy-coo" door latch/catch....
Get yourself one of those Ultrasonic cleaners like the Vevor brand unit I got (same unit sold under many brand names)...
Fill it with Evapo-Rust.
Clean all dirt and oils off the part.
Bring your favorite flavor of cleaning solution, or in this case Evapo-Rust, up to temperature using the built-in heating feature.
(Vinegar works passable in place of Evapo-Rust and is cheaper, but E/R works better and worth the price.)
You can get multiple uses out of any of the cleaning solutions before they are worn out.
Place your part in the solution and set time (I usually go the full time - my stuff always seems to be in bad shape.)
Most of my stuff begins its life with me, in pretty bad shape.
The Evapo-Rust bath/jacuzzi bring most of them back to life.
Or at least, gives you a better baseline to begin any other treatment.
My minds eye can picture having a Evap-O-Rust Jacuzzi!
I really enjoy watching this man. His knowledge of what used to be is truly amazing. I also like the standard of his workmanship. His comment about the size that people were is echoed by the repairers of English Canal Barges, we are not only living longer. Have you noticed that our cars are doing the same thing ?
Dave, you're quite the sleuth. 👍👍👍
made it here again, yay!
I watch a few channels of this type but this is the most satisfying.. I appreciate the patience and care coupled with immense skill shown making this my favourite.
Beautiful mortise and tenon joints
It is so relaxing to watch you make those parts fit so precisely. Thanks for the years of pleasure I hav got to watch you in your trade.
it is so, and now he is getting old like all the rest of us, and there is no one out there to replace him, I was hoping the 18 year old kid would hang around but I guess he is gone now to.
That white ash wood is pretty, and looks very strong for the sheep wagon!
It is the door for the SHEEP DOG TO JUMP IN TO! Happy Easter D&D and D.
😊
When climbing up into the wagon you don't need a lot of headroom for the door, because your head is the first part inside. The overall height inside is only a little higher as evidenced by the tapered tops of the door frame, but you don't want the wagon too high, or it will catch too much wind.
... and they called him "The Wagon Whisperer".
I should say so!
@@garthbutton699Never a truer statement. I am amazed how this man can pick up a two hundred year old piece of split, weathered, rotten piece of worked wood, look at for a while and say, “Oh yeah. This was a 3/4” x 2-1/2” widget that used to have a 3” bolt with a twelve sided head going through it.” The man is a true master at his craft. So wonderful to watch.
Wishing you a blessed Easter
Thanks Dave for all you do. So far it's a beauty
Thanks for sharing with us Dave. I knew a Sheepman in Colorado and Ed would never fit in the Shepard's Trailer. His hired hands would fit any of them fine though, they were not big but they could do their job well and never backed off of their job. Looking forward to seeing the door hung. Stay safe. Fred.
Thanks again, I enjoyed.
Thanks Dave. As ever, it looks so easy when you do it, and I know it's anything but easy.
Happy Easter to you and your family Dave . Another fascinating plunge into the shepherds wagon , roll on the next one 👍🏴
Another example of you using your knowledge, skill and abilities to see a part or problem and figure out how to make it or solve it. That sheep wagon will be great when you are finished.
Nice work, Dave. I'm thinking your craftsmanship is a little better than the original build!
So are his tools.
Drivers door. I can’t imagine how claustrophobic that would be, but nice on those chilly frosty days. Put on the coffee and roll. ☕️☺️
I think the complicated stuff was original then the simple repairs and modifications came as needed
Fantastic progress
I think the height of the doorway may not have been a big issue. I think it would depend on the pitch and spacing of the stepladder used for entry.
You do nice work. Its enjoyable to watch your videos.
Excellent craftsmanship, it always amazing the work you do Dave.
The siezed steel item looks like a vintage automotive rear view mirror mount. The type to sit in the middle above the windscreeen
Thank you. As always a fantastic job and much appreciated.
Dave Happy Easter Thank You
i would hate to be the people making them in the old days , all done by hand i suppose it would be a job but wow . terry good going .
Historians will be referencing your videos for centuries.
Beautiful!
I've watched you and your beloved tablesaw/work bench and marveled at the versatility. A friend of mine who was quite the cabinet master, bought a new saw when he retired from CAT and moved to West Yellowstone. If my memory is any good at all I think it did all yours does and maybe more... LOL
Your mortise and tenon joints would make an angel swoon.....
Looking Good
Very good.
Instead of blowing away chips each time you finish a plunge on the tenoning machine, consider mounting an aquarium air pump, wired through the motor switch, with a hose or copper tube mounted to direct a continuous flow of air to where the tenoning bit meets the wood. No more huffing and puffing.
Здравствуйте как хорошо у вас получается но вто время не было таких станков как сейчас всё делалось в ручную спасибо и успехов за видео хорошего вам здоровья и вашим близким Нижний Новгород Юра
Being several years older than you the big people (rotund) of my youth were bankers, grocers, and farmers who had all of the meat, bread, and vegetables they could eat. At 6' I was in the tall range. Look at the photos of WWII troops and you will see they are almost all what would be small today. Maybe in 90 years, people will be an average of 7 foot tall.
great work and good explanation, it is missing from many other videos here on youtube
Thanks Dave, Happy Good Friday ❤❤
Stay safe and we'll see you next time.
awesome work
that bracket you took off of the door is an old internal mirror from a car !
Relative to the size of the wagon the door size is appropriate. Tight spaces all around.
Sherlock Engels 😊
I imagine the door may have warped a bit probably from being opened and closed a lot and from the entire structure changing a bit over time and from bouncing around on rough terrain. I bet a gap would have let in unwanted cold Montana wind and was shimmed on the fly to seal the opening. Anybody’s guess really at this point. Nice detective work on troubleshooting through what’s left. Happy Easter to you and your family Dave.
I will speculate the wagon hooked a gate post and yanked it out of square and the door no longer would close. Like the mud wagon had its axle ripped off, perhaps that why it had the modle T axle added to this wagon.
Dave is some detective isn’t he 😊
Very interesting thanks
Very nice fitting joints on that door jamb.
❤❤❤❤💪💪👍Respekt Meister Bravo
I’ve just measured the door on my horse drawn caravan, that l live and travel in. It’s 20” x 58”! I’m 6’ tall and the door is fine.
Thanks for sharing
Looks nice! I had to build a new door for our sheepwagon too. It was made about as simple as simple can be. The frame was solid but very out of square - it was almost 20" at the bottom and 19" at the top so it made it a little challenging!
You and Dave will have to compare notes. You may have said, but has it been the family quite awhile?
@@dianeengel4155 That would be fun! No we just picked it up back in January from over by Rapelje.
Nice one that's coming along nicely
Nice joinery
It seems your becoming more of an industrial archeologist figuring out how things were being done 100+ years ago.
I think it's more difficult than the mechanical machines as many of those are still around and were often inside buildings so there may be several for pattern but farm equipment tends to be left wherever it was last used.
Masterfull
Evening Dave and Diane, this is getting more interesting than ever how do the sides droop when all the measurements are correct? I always look forward to your Friday video's as they are great to watch to wind down on a Friday night. We appreciate all the effort that goes into your video's Wishing you both a very Happy Easter. Regards Richard 🇬🇧
I enjoy your contents. Happy Easter Dave and family.
excellent recreation and joinery.
i guess those shepards were very skinny fellows -- or, perhaps, they wereyoungsters or children.
thanks for the show!
The 'little' people my family met were Basque sheep herders and their wagons. Quite a few men were over 6' tall. Fun loving folks especially to the kids. The wagons were not colorful, but very practical with a canvas top. Fond memories of 60 yrs ago.
Happy Easter
Best Wishes
Avg height in the 1800s ,5'5".(five foot,five inches) not many obese people back then too.
In a 2019 Saturday Evening Post article about the average US soldier of WW II, he was described as "five feet, eight inches tall, and ... weigh 144 pounds". Americans used to be shorter and leaner.
As 6'3" and 230lbs I'm not fat but would be a giant in the 1800s
@@danhammond8406 we are large .
Thanks Dave...
Hi Dave, and Diane, This sheep wagon is really coming along. I think that this door rebuild is one of my favorite parts so far. The narrow width of the door is a mystery to me, but maybe it helps with strength within the frame of the whole front portion, and right next to the wood stove for less wind? Thank you for sharing, and take care.
Thanks Dave
HiDave and Diane, happy easter, like you said the door opening was for little people, or Hobbit, lol. But you made a nice job of the frame and I look forward to seeing the door swinging from it. Thanks for another interesting video, stay safe, best wishe's to you both, Stuart, and Megan UK.
Same to you.
I do not want to say lthat you Missed Your Calling (because I enjoy your videos ) but you woulld have been one hell of a good detective Dave.
Coming along nicely
Great video
Thanks!
Dave you sure do some fine work, how about showing us how you keep your mortising bits so nice and sharp?
i found a spray can in the garage from back 30 years it seems to work better then all the new stuff or is it we just think it works better
to release those locked up parts