DP/30: Blackfish, documentarian Gabriela Cowperthwaite, subject John Hargrove
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Blackfish is a doc about killer whales, people they have killed, and how companies manipulate the public into thinking it's all just good, educational fun. You'll never look at Sea World the same way again after seeing this film.
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Shot in Los Angeles, July 2013
I don't understand those who say Blackfish is a lie. You can tell he is speaking from the heart. Unlike all the obviously scripted, fake acting of SeaWorld "interviews". Maybe that's why they weren't in the film... all those impromptu interview questions don't give em enough time to think up a good answer.
The UK outlawed dolphin and whale captivity in marine parks in the 90's.
It is long overdue for America to have a public debate on the cost of animal captivity, particular for entertainment .
Actually we didn't outlaw it, it's just that public opinion here changed.
But obviously legislation will be required in the US. India recently granted cetaceans nonhuman personhood rights. What the US needs is a high profile politician with the courage to lead the debate. It was afterall a single politician that led the campaign to ban the capture of orcas in US waters.
First captive breeding needs to be banned. But there also needs to be a ban on the import & export of orcas. Otherwise SeaWorld & others will just transport sperm abroad & import calves back into the US.
MushuK mmmone
PETITION i will sign!
we certainly did .. ..
So are we finally accepting that whales get PISSED OFF!?
Get a grip this is not a money making venture. The sole purpose of this film is to increaase public awareness of the abuses at Sea World and other marine world establishments.
Seaworld isn’t the only place to bring attention to, we need to also free Lolita!!! #emptythetanks!!
Yes I saw Lolita at MIami Seaquarium when I was only 5 (same year I saw the movie Free Willy) and KNEW having that giant whale in a tiny tank was completely wrong and I can't believe she's been in the tiniest tank in the entire world for 47 YEARS! kidnapped from her family in Washington (her mother is still alive in the wild and both whales recognized the calls from each other played on a recording). Her tank is so small her tail touches the bottom when she is vertical for tricks. (another whale captured from her same family named Hugo also used to live in that bathtub until he freaked out and killed himself in the 1980s
She passed away.
It's time for corky to be released to a sanctuary
I always wanted to go to Seaworld until I saw the documentary, then saw the Shamu shows on UA-cam... I thought Seaworld was about education. How foolish of me.
You call that a documentary? 😂😂😂
You would have enjoyed it.
NEVER Have NEVER Will! POOR Animals! 🥺💔💔💔
I feel so bad for John, that he had such a connection with takara and hes not able to see her again
This movie should bring in an Oscar. Moving and enlightening. I have been transformed.
Movie was 85% lies
@@donaldmorrison3857 how? Ive been watching so many videos about SeaWorld and how they treat the animals and I've done A LOT of research and there are SO MANY attacks from just the orcas to trainers and staff. I'm honestly interested to hear your thoughts and opinions. Like I said I'm now just learning more in depths about all of these things.
@@jenniferrussell627 it's what's happens when dealing with a wild animals. Tigers loins an many others have attacks have happened. So it's not just at seaworld this happened.
@@donaldmorrison3857 Lies? Your statements don't give anything enlightening to hear something so casual as "It's what happens when dealing with wild animals." You need to realize the animals do not belong in captivity period. This is unnatural and does drive the animals into depression and anger. Thus, why these things happen. Point proven. Do your research on orcas before saying Blackfish is lies because...it's NOT.
@@irinaivanovic9792yes, if Blackfish lied, SW would have sued for defamation. Blackfish is an outstanding documentary. I also recommend reading Beneath the Surface by John Hargrove. Orcas are magnificent creatures who don't belong in captivity.
I lived on Whidbey Island & saw killer whale's in the wild. That in itself compels me to to say shame on Sea World and to those that support it.
Saw this on Netflix last night. I feel vile for ever giving money to SeaWorld.
You got sold a lie by this movie. They used misinformation
@@donaldmorrison3857 you only need intelligence and common sense to see that there’s a LOT wrong with SeaWorld, regardless of any movie.
Have you ever been to a zoo? Ever kept fish? Recreating a natural habitat for each individual wild animal in captivity is the very first welfare consideration, for people who HAVE consideration.
I don’t know about you but as far as I’m concerned, not even providing that for the orcas is beyond bonkers, arrogant, immoral and unacceptable.
@@donaldmorrison3857 you’re a tard. Putting anything or anyone in isolation for 2/3rds of their lives will make them insane. Those whales have brains six times as big as humans are have intelligence people(especially idiots like yourself) will never understand.
@@donaldmorrison3857no we didn’t. Blackfish was the truth.
When I learned that the fin is bent because they're in captivity I refused to ever visit Sea World again. My children understand & accept. They belong in the ocean, not a pool for our entertainment. Same applies to a damn zoo.
That's not why they're bent. 😂😂😂
WorldOfExcitementE yes it is
keva kinsler Dont forget how many animals they safe and release and how much work zoos do for endangered animals with breeding programs like mentalfloss.com/article/27867/4-animals-you-can-only-find-zoos - its better to visit zoos and sea world and teach the kids the good and the bad things when humans meets animals.
Bechtified do they deserve to be there?...will you let your child ever just for someone else's entertainment...they too have feelings...they have been tortured to death..Wow I don't understand how people still say they want to go to seaworld.. Seeing the orcas.. They belong to the ocean its their world its their right...the chlorine water causes them diseases.. They swim 100 miles a day...can you stay in a place for years... A fucking no..stop saying that they helped the orcas they did not...
Well said.
Is someone advocating for better lives for the sealions who John Hargrove said are living in deplorable conditions at SeaWorld?
I remember going to sea world at age 13, so about 1996, seeing the shows from the orcas and dolphins. I always thought it was strange that these animals preform but the other animals aren't. I thought the oracs and dolphins tank would be more like their sea environment with plants, sand and rocks. Then I went back with my roommate in 2003 from a promotion that I did while working at Disney Worlds College Program and the American Red Cross. I was in my early 20's, I still didn't see any physical upgrades too the orcas and dolphins tanks. I remember thinking that was sad because they put in a roller coasters that easily coast a hundred million. I never learned anything while at the park about any of the animals.
I went once in the '80s, and I hated it. Doesn't appear it ever really changed since the 80s.
It was wrong, back then too. An ocean in Canada is not a pool in Florida or Texas.
@Crista Ferrari-Girault Corect this youvunt.
Why are you just making up numbers for the roller coasters lol you just sound like you don't want to learn anything about something you may disagree with.
@Crista Ferrari-Girault Seriously??? Really??? That's your comment??? Why are you here? People here can see the lunacy of SEAWORLD. What a joke. The fact that its still open is indeed unbelievable. People are stupid and brainwashed. You must one too. Go the watch the Simpsons troll for seaworld/NOT. It's not a seaworld. It's a dog and pony show and Rachel made some very good points about this crooked, exploitive, murderous place, that you are obviously TOO stupid to understand. MOVE ALONG! TROLL.
Wonderful interview. This added an extra scope to Blackfish that I was starving for.
Why do humans have such a desire to see animals up close? And then act like its soo good for kids to see animals up close. Ok, go see them in the wild if its that important to your kid! Youll get a way better understanding of that animal.
Totally agree!
Do you have a dog or cat in captivity???
Quincy A
Sorry Quincy A, your knee jerk reaction of "Why do humans have such a desire to see animals up close? And then act like its soo good for kids to see animals up close. Ok, go see them in the wild if its that important to your kid! Youll get a way better understanding of that animal" dosnt help the cause much.
I am in complete agreement that its a dead loser of an idea to keep an animal like a killer whale in a large swimming pool. The reason is certainly not because "theres no good reason for humans to have such a desire to see animals up close? And then act like its soo good for kids to see animals up close".
The reason is simple. For an animal with the kind of intelligence a killer whale possesses, putting them in such a closed environment inherently is going to result in something akin to mental torture.
Modern zoo's provide for more room to roam for much smaller animals with less intelligence than a killer whale. The confines a killer whale in captivity is kept in is bound to be hard on their mental state, very hard on many of them Im sure and practically fatal to the mind of a whale with less capacity to live with such a situation, as Im sure isn't rare.
But humans and their children seeing animals, and animals up close is important. Sure, its great if you can see them in the wild. Problem is, the vast majority of "humans" cant afford a trip to Africa or South America, or any such place. And then, even if everyone could afford such a thing, we would only be invading their environments where they actually should be living in the wild in a fairly human free existence.
Do not downplay the critical importance zoos and other such facilities have in the education and understanding that society in the modern world can learn from and appreciate about the animal kingdom, a kingdom which we actually hold the oddest and most unusual positions in. If you think that without zoos and such humans would, in the larger more general big picture around the world start treating animals better, your wickedly mistaken.
But there has to be lines we do not cross, particularly when common sense dictates different. And we need to continue to pursue more human and reasonable ways to show as many people on earth the wildlife that does exist, that it is real, it is life, and we need to protect it from us.
Quincy A exactly! how can you learn about an animal outside its natural habitat? theres nothing natural about their behavior in captivity. Im not sure why some ppl rather eat up so much crap!
***** thanks for that reply!
The saddest part is even after Dawn's death her family still supports the Sea World cruelty industry. It don't take a rocket scientist to know the cruelty it took to kidnap these majestic creatures from their mothers without even seeing the footage of how bad it was. ( This includes dolphins and all animals, mammals)
Her family still supports it??😳
Woww😢 SeaWorld probably paid the family some hush money
I hope you're not a pet owner???
@@timnorris6287 are you trying to compare a pet dog to a wild orca? 😂
thanks sheila---i dont get it either--pro beause seaworld told them they dsue them if they raised a stink
thank you Gabriela Cowperwaite and he former trainer John Hargrove for exposing the wrong doings of the Sea World with regards to animals and the trainers.
EXACTLY 💯 ❤ We all Owe them a BIG THANK YOU! FOR Being Brave and Speaking out about the Animal Cruelty! SAVE THE ANIMALS ❤
Me too. I now have so much respect for Orcas and the complex society they have created. They're incredible intelligent animals and keeping them in a pool is fucking perverse. Sea World should be closed down.
Sea World is exploiting not only the animals,but the naive trainers as well.
Dilmeran Akgoze dunham
Bingo.
That's the fact. I have no doubt that bringing in an already well experienced and educated person on marine biology and aquatic mammals to become a trainer would inevitably result in a trainer who would quickly see the folly of Sea Worlds actions, and they wouldn't be as susceptible to the progressive brainwashing that inevitably comes from working at a place like Sea World.
+David Burke except all the trainers have to have at the least a bachelor's in marine biology and more than five years experience. so.....
+Steven Harman where are you getting any of your information from? I have been reading all of your comments and I must say your purpose or point is unclear. If you feel the opposite of what this video and Blackfish promotes, than just say so. Everyone is entitled to feel what they want. You don't have use made up information of what you have found to be accurate to prove yourself more educated than others. This is a fact, you are not John Hargrove and I'll bet you don't know him personally. I'll even bet you have never applied to be a trainer at SeaWorld so you wouldn't know what the requirements are. I'm probably going to take Kelly's (a trainer interviewed in Blackfish) word when she said you don't need a bachelors degree in marine biology you just need to swim well and be energetic... Over your word. No one is buying your shit dude. If you want to start a comment rally on how awesome SeaWorld is for having orcas in captivity then be my guest. Just stop with the bullshit facts thanks
Yes but the naive trainer have the choice! they could get information and go deeplier in the topic. The Animals have no choice! I am sorry M. Marquez but I agree with M. Burke on various points:
1) At bachelor level, you must be able to question yourself on the environment you are working with.. You are smart enough to get information not only on the proximity conditions but also on the kind of Organization it is, where and how they bought the Animals.
2)Much respect for M. Hargrove and Ms Coperthwaite as they now defend the defenseless and voiceless. But honestly something strikes me on the way they changed their mind just after the death of one of their workmate and how reacted SeaWorld.. So , if there was not Human death, they would have never realized before that those place such SeaWorld were Evil for Animals?
@@mmarquez1100 what yout saying about steve harmann facts is exactly the whole movie blackfish. a bunch of misread and misunderstood information promoted in an emotional and not scientific way. even the facts in the movie are untrue there just statements. sad activists have to lie to swing public opinion in there favor
You should really watch 'Blackfish.'
Gabriela you are a modern saint who I and many other fans have the utmost respect for. I live in San Miguel de Allende and just saw this for the 1st time last night with my best friend and we feel like we need to do something and want to know where to direct our efforts/time/money. I hope to find you on FB- thanks for taking this risk on behalf of these innocent creatures.
I can't believe Sea World hasn't shut down yet, even after the release of this movie. Why do people let Sea World just move on? It's bizarre. We now live in a world of internet and ever developing technology that we don't need zoos and aquariums anymore. People can now watch how whales live and behave in their natural habitat through a HD screen, anywhere, anytime. And in the near future, thanks to the advancement of virtual reality, god knows how realistic and tangible the experience of watching a whale documentary will become! Scientists and policy makers are also coming up with clever ways to successfully construct eco tourisms where both nature (national parks and marine reserves) and the local community benefit. Now people (if they can afford to travel) can experience in real life, without harming them, how the animals actually live and behave in their natural habitat, while helping the natural ecosystem and the local economy flourish. When there are so many amazing alternatives like these, why continue this old practice that results in so much sacrifice and damage not only to nature but also eventually to us humans. It's really the time to stop. In fact, zoos and aquariums were bad practices from the very beginning because they kept intelligent, free-roaming animals in captivity for mere entertainment. Except for the ones that do conservation work and scientific research with the money they earn, zoos and aquariums are replaceable and they only do harm.
Because people are stupid!! They want to be entertained and do not give a sh about the animals. Go to SW and ask the visitor's what kind of animals these are!! I bet most of them have no idea that there are different species of orca's!! Einstein said:" 2 things are endless, the stupidity of the human race and the universe and with the universe, I am not so sure".
SW is just full of narrow minded liar's!!!
You can't blame Tilly for going phycho. After the 1st death the world should have known something is not right.
RIP Tilly and Dawn. Whales belong in the ocean.
He trolled those trainers emotions
Some of these comments make me really sad. These are huge, wild animals that shouldn't be locked into these small tanks and made to do tricks for people's entertainment. A lot of the people defending this don't seem to have any idea of how these animals act in the wild and what their instinctual needs are. Very sad.
I watched blackish last night... And it literally broke my heart.. The lies and lack of care this corporation has for the animals is disgusting... The trainers... They love the animals and they are deeply concerned for them... But those of you who really think sea world is doing no wrong it"just needs to change a few things..." Seriously... Open your eyes... Think of this... What would you do if it was you?
The same things and WORSE happens in the billions to farm animals EVERY DAY! watch earthlings and dominion
Gabriela, You and your team are incredible. You are an inspiration. Thankyou for making the world a better place
and taking that ten million dollars from cnn.
@@stevenharman4214 😮
Blackfish changed so much!
gabriela cowperthwaite, this is a brilliant amazing master freaking piece. thank you for your amazing work.
Wow what a truly telling comment "I didn't want to speak to a journalist and feel exploited all over again."
I was so incredibly sad when I saw Blackfish. I pray for the future that any animals in the zoo, the circus, or water parks become outlawed . Let them live free
I thought they were called killer whales because they are the only species of whale that kill and eat other whales
One last thing: why doesnt seaworld come out with a documentary themselves?
I would be happy to do a documentary about Sea World but I'm sure it would turn to the dumbass Sea World haters who have cats themselves in tiny apartments.
beallendall08 your comments are very interesting I don't believe that you understand the difference between a domesticated animal and a wild animal taken from its natural habitat to live in captivity.
Gordon Howe I'm working on a video now as a rebuttal to Blackfish and all of your too emotional, inconsistent, incredibly ignorant, and EXTREMELY HYPOCRITICAL opinion.
***** It's annoying because you can't debate me.
beallendall08
You think you can debate the difference between right and wrong? That's not annoying--it's ridiculous. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Don't even think of being in the same room with me. You don't rate it.
29:30 - I would totally pay to see that. Screw the disco-light-music shows with exploited animals performing for some dead fish. That's not education. That's not what any sensible zoo does to their animals.
Close the damn places down!!
Amazing documentary. The movie begins with various 911 phone calls detailing the tragedy. I had no idea Dawn's arm was ripped from her body, and then swallowed by Tilikum. Daniel P. Dukes, Tilikum victim #2, definitely got more than he bargained for when he entered the Orca's pool. Apparently Tilikum didn't stop at making his point by Killing Dukes, as the Orcinus orca proceeded to strip him, chew his nutsack off, before swimming victory laps around the pool with his artistry slumped over his back!
I cried at the end. So beautiful to see the Whales where they belong.
I live in Florida and have NEVER been to Sea World and never will. I did watch the Pelican video :( but that was all. I do however go often to the North West Coast and into BC to marvel at these beautiful animal's.
To see them on their term's in their world is FAR better than in a fish tank doing trick's. The trick's in the wild are far more beautiful than you will ever see in a Theme Park.
There is a kind of special feeling when you are with them that I have with no other animal's. They like to play and show off, they come to the boat's so you can see them and they interact with you on their term's as it should be.
I feel as they are, what I call, God's gift to us and it is now time to fix what we have put these Whales thru, whether it be release or hey all that money these park's are making, larger incloser's for the one's who don't come from the wild. SOMETHING for them as we have TAKEN so much from them.
I think of Sea World, and I'm like, yeah the sea itself is it's own world. But y'all don't represent it as such. It's a couple very large swimming pools. And in those pools reside the second most dominant apex predator on the planet. Masters of a world in a swimming pool. Not effing cool, man. It just ain't right. It's unholy.
I'm Black.. I'm Gay .. And I am a Dolphin. Okay I am mixed Black and White.. but really, why all the labels? Right is right and wrong is wrong.. anyone with a heart knows right from wrong, and if not from just sheer feelings, what about that brick in most peoples head? Think people. Would you want to swim around in a cage? Beg for food? In one video I heard a trainer yell NO FISH when a "whale" did not obey a command at a show. Pretty sad.
What?
ABSOLUTELY heartbreaking to hear him speak about that female whale
I hope that soon the slaughterhouses have glass walls, so we can stop the torture of cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. Great interview, thank you.
Yes! Watching the films Blackfish and Earthlings is so eye-opening. Changed my life.
Agree! Blackfish, Earthlings & Dominion will have you go vegan overnight! 💚 only regret is not watching them sooner!!
As a species; we should really start to respect nature in its entirety. These so called "killer whales" are NOT killers, they're just very intelligent creatures, apex predators of the seas & awe inspiring. Their family values should be copied by us; as it could lead to a better world.
The way he looks at her....hmm aww...wonder if there is a crush. Blackfish was interesting tho.
No, he’s just paying attention to what she’s saying. He’s actually gay. And how do I know this? He mentions it in his book “Beneath the Surface”
That was such a great interview!. Thank you for posting this.
Trillium was not shot when he grabbed dawn because the life of a whale is more financially valuable than a human life.
marishana meyer I don't think a bullet would touch a whale.👌
A tranquilliser bullet very well would have stopped him in his tracks. Also never heard of a harpoon?
*tilikum
betinha velloso til who comes ?
Sorry typo
Each Sea World should of consulted a Marine Biologist on how to plan their park, they could of done open pens that go out in the ocean, something better than shallow concerete!
Whales don't kill humans in the wild. It makes sense that the reason they've done so in captivity is because they're voicing their anger and frustration about their situation.
This movie “ Blackfish” really opened my eyes as it should and it should many many more. I tell tell and show as many as I can about this movie !! Also I will NEVER go to SeaWorld and I live in Florida. My money and time will go to advocate to keeping the Orcas free !! And my new goal is to see a whale in the wild - WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE !!!!!
Me too…I tell everyone I can about it. We went to SeaWorld in San Diego once, but it was before I watched the documentary. We will never visit there again.
@@ColonizersBlowI hear you ! My grandson actually thought that the Orcas are better off at Sea World because that’s what he was taught at Sea World in Texas ! They lie to our kids and that’s dangerous!!! Well I schooled him right away.
And this document had me thinking about it for a long time and since then I’ve did a lot of research on Orcas and they are super cool dolphins !!
Thanks for spreading the word. Little by little by people like you and me will get the word out !!! ❤ 🐬
I hope that all the efforts made by these people will actually make a positive difference for these poor creatures. Put them back in the wild if possible. Quit breeding them and taking babies away from them. It would be nice to put them into a HUGE ocean pen if nothing else as suggested in this clip.
I recommend you watch other videos about how SeaWorld treats their animals. This movie and other videos I have personally watched have given legitimate proof that SeaWorld does not really care about their whales. They claim they are taken care of and that everything is fine but they hire people to come and take these whales from the wild.
She needs to do a documentary about Miami Seaquarium as well, that place is horrible! makes SW look like heaven.
Amazing doc, I agree- best interview yet!
Thanks for sharing! Great Interview :)
So many people have an opinion about animals in captivity but they don't realize how many inconstancies this film has. This particular whale was never captured by SeaWorld affiliates. He was actually captured and brought to Canada. SeaWorld acquired him in hopes that they would be able to help the animal. The tragedy with Dawn was due to many mistakes by the trainer and if she were alive, she would be ashamed of this film. Her life was about SeaWorld and Orcas.
No, he was a problem over and over. It was all swept under the rug. The only mistake the “ trainer” made was taking a job at SeaWorld without proper training.
Wait, so is this the actual documentary or just an interview about the Doc?
This is just an interview, go and watch Blackfish it is very interesting and sad, these poor Orcas should be in the The Ocean.
I just viewed Blackfish, I haven't checked when it came out but it doesn't matter because this film is so important in so many ways. We have a facility here in Hawaii called Sealife Park and I've always had conflicting feelings about the best thing for the animals. From a total layman's view the bent dorcel fin was a clear sign of this can't be right for the animals to me. Now I have more knowledge and I can better understand the different sides of this complex and for me always sad situation. Until we do the best thing for the animals it will always be sad and a not condoneable situation.
seen killer whales in the wild and in captivity
trust me when I say seeing them in their natural enviroment is so much more impressive than than any circus man can create
Go visit BC Canada and see them hunting in the wild is a moving experience.
The whales can be rehabbed in seapens to go back into the wild, and eat live fish again. The only way this will stop, is if WE stop paying admission to the parks. OUR money is what keeps this captivity going!
I watched the pelican video and my response was THIS should be the show! (If they're in captivity). It was crazy how the trainers were frantic 2 redirect the whales' behavior. They were following their instincts & all the whales got in on it--in the wild they are strategic, group killers. When the trainers couldn't get the whales back on track, they stopped the show and a trainer dived in the pool to get the bird bits; they were clueless that the audience loved it--they got 2 c REAL whales
How did you get to see it? I haven't been able to find it online and it's not in theaters anywhere near me.
why is blackfish pay to watch if its trying to get attention to the situation?
Exploitation: Business101
They don't rescue THOUSANDS per year, but they do rescue many animals (including marine mammals). I am grateful for the rescue work SW does and believe their captive program requires serious changes, but let's not be prone to over-exaggeration. I do believe they do more good than harm.
Blackfish are not as preoccupied with the Killer whales as they should be, if they were we could find their documentary online for others to see and also change peoples minds, in fact provoke people's outcry, it could go viral, it's so wrong and cruel keeping these smart creatures in tiny fishtanks, many people need to see/hear to believe it and most would be pro-active if they had more insight. If Blackfish PEEPS cared enough by now they would make it public and free.
i've def. learned a lot for free through this film. well said~
"..he can't work there* anymore"
And yeah it does rescue thousands of animals, but it kills millions on the other end.
It's great how these interviews point me towards some great films like Blackfish :)
What about the inconsistent report by Samantha berg claiming her first time doing a perimeter ride? Apparently, the video clip in blackfish showed someone else conducting the perimeter ride.
But that means nothing, the film clip exactly matched what the woman was describing. Another ex trainer said she was misled as to what form the movie would take, & maybe she was, but that does not discredit the facts that the movie did present.
Another ex trainer challenges certain testimonies by contributors to the film, so we should question them, but that does not discredit the film as a whole.
Testimony is often the weakest form of evidence. People should always fact check what people say, & also weigh how important to a case that testimony is.
Blackfish is not a perfect movie, but it raises important questions.
1 - Are the conditions that SW keep their orcas in acceptable?
Remember SW's are probably the best in the world. But they are still woefully inadequate & hark back to the days when zoos kept animals in totally unsuitable conditions.
2 - Do SW practices endanger the health & lives of their employees?
Well if you look at the list of captive orca attacks on people, obviously they did, & they're seeking to do so again.
3 - Does SW strive to mislead the public solely for profit?
Well yes, both in what they tell the public & what they don't. They blatantly lie about lifespans & dorsal fin collapse, & they don't tell people about the terrible dental problems some of their orcas suffer, or that they have to fed antibiotics to try & keep them healthy. Or that they breed hybrids, or that they inbreed. Two things that never happen naturally.
4 - Is what SW does regarding orcas educating the public?
No, in fact it's the reverse. SW present the illusion that their orcas are happy & healthy in captivity, but all cetacean biologists say that orcas are totally unsuitable to be kept in captivity.
5 - Is it ethical in the second decade of the 21st century to train animals to perform for our entertainment?
If you say no, then there's no way you can condone the shows SW put on.
6 - Should orcas be bred in captivity?
Many captive breeding programmes are justified. Species have been rescued from the brink of extinction by such programmes. But orcas are not at that stage yet, & every orca bred in captivity would be useless if they were.
So why breed them?
It's simply to keep their parks stocked with circus performers.
7 - Has SW engaged in unscrupulous practices?
Absolutely. The holding facilities they maintained in Iceland just being one example.
I'm happy to see Blackfish criticised, if at the same time people can adequately answer the questions it raises, a few of which I have listed above.
Ok honestly such a silly thing to say lol It is like saying oh ppl watching are so dumb they couldnt tell the clip was showing an example. We can clearly tell its not Sam!
David Keenan
, THANK YOU.
What does this have to do with anything?
David Keenan
In answer to some of your points
1... I think it's great they are planning bigger pools
2... Yes I guess it is dangerous, but then again, many jobs are dangerous.
3... I think it's unfair to say they are misleading the public for profit, they do LOTS of work regarding wild animals, rehabilitating injured animals etc... regardless of your thoughts surrounding dolphins/orcas in captivity, they do lots of other work.
4... I think any interaction a person has with an animal is educational, it may just be understanding the size/power etc, but it is still educational. How many marine biologists, vets etc went to seaworld/zoo/circus etc and fell in love with animals because of it!
5... I don't see a problem in the 21st century training an animal for public performance. So long as they are well taken care of.
6... Maybe, maybe not... but I'd rather they were captive bred than wild caught... everyone is against animals being taken from the wild (which used to be common practice) but these days, SeaWorld is running a captive breeding program... I would have thought that was more positive than taking from the wild?
7... Quite possibly, I wouldn't know all of their practices, nor would I pretend to know... but the same could be said for this snuff piece you refer to as a documentary... is it 100% fact, is their any misleading information or half truths, I'm sure there is.
Thanks for this. Very insightful.
Blackfish will be airing on CNN Oct 24th at 9:00pm
She says "sort of" way too much, I hate when people do that.
wtf? Stick to the topic at hand. Race & sexual orientation are totally irrelevant.
SO WHEN WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE DOC? PREMIERE WAS ALREADY 7 MONTHS AGO, come on
taking aside from all seriousness... John has lil crush on Gabriela me thinks... tee hee.
Umm, no dear he's gay
I watched Blackfish and thought it was sad these Ocras were in these small tanks when they should be in the Ocean.
You are right. Animals are better.
Thank you so so much for your work...YES when the good people stay silent, thats when the bad stuff happens!
Eloquent and Informative! Thank You!
People who are the voice for animals are my heroes
So, what ever happened to all of the outrage? Why do we still have these intelligent, incredible animals putting on circus acts for human entertainment?
man takara is like his daughter or something the way he talks about her
Gabby is really intelligent and has many good points. I enjoy her take on how people are primates and need to be hands on in order to learn.
Good in-depth interview 😊
It is so hard hard for people to see reality from someone else's point of view; weather on one side of a debate va another, whether you are primate/human vs cetacean, whether you are have a financial incentive vs feel empathetic pain etc. Though it is tough, it is not impossible. We all need to step up to the shift that is calling us in the realm of animal rights and allow our natural ethic and empathy evolve. If that results in financial shifting, or even loss, so be it. Corporations like Sea World, with their vast resources, creativity, and knowledge can find a better way to generate revenue and even funnel revenue toward real conservation and defense (like Sea Shepherd). We in the public need to make that very clear to them by divesting our energy and money from their current business structure. I admire these two and all the rest who are speaking a clearer version of the truth.
A question to him, how do you think “your” whale feels being abandoned again and again by her trainers??
First of all there are no real “trainers”. Whales belong in the Ocean.
I wish they went into a little more detail, but I guess that's why we should watch the movie. I hope the movie goes into a little more detail that's for sure.
anybody who uses the word "butthurt" from workaholics to express an opinion about our natural world and the beings in it, needs to re-evaluate your writing skills.. and how serious your life is.
I am on this guys side 100%. I live in Florida and almost took a position with the park and I backed away. The very fact that they insult you with the pay was enough for me . I always felt. It was not in the best interest of the animal
Ms. Cowperthwaite- "the undoing" : what's really sad is when I went to the polar bear exhibit, I and the audience were thrilled just to be that close to a live one so I would bet if SeaWorld DID find a way to ease the conditions on these magnificent creatures, they would still turn a profit. Grew up in Orlando, field trips to Sea World and it was made an educational display. Was not impressed with the jumping and throwing.
John H for World President!
Funny, even as a child I was never down with captive animals that weren't our pets... It always seemed in humane to me, but I'm glad some people are evolving ...
John the trainer is literally my dream guy. 😘
Smileypants Cuppycake He is gorgeous!! ❤️❤️❤️
How are you going to release a captive born orca into the wild?
HEY EVERYONE NIW THAT YOU ALL WON THIS HOW ABOUT SAVING ANIMALS IN THE RODEO AND STOPPING THE RODEO
because they won't make money doing that.
Also rodeo animals are not treated poorly like this most of them have the best care in the world i grew up with rodeo stock trust me I wish I got the care they did
Orca cannot have general anesthesia because they are voluntary breathers (putting them under would kill them as they must think to breathe). They can and do have local anesthetics (and can tolerate Valium), but this is not exactly a trip to your dentist's office. They may feel a great deal of the pain and not necessarily show it. SW veterinarians will do all they can to prevent pain in their patients as long as it does not threaten the whales lives.
This angers me so much. From the time i was little. I wanted to be a sea world trainer. I always knew this was a dangerous job. But sea world has hidden so much. And know studies show seaworld doesn't hire people of color. A recent study shows they only had 2 african Americans hired in the entire park. It's heartbreaking. This just sadden me. First it hurts because I realize i never had a chance to become a trainer. Then i get angry for the whales and trainers. Seaworld has broke the hearts of so many teenagers like myself. 😪
Sorry about spelling my spell check is on. And makes me seem unintelligent. Thanks to the folks who point it out.
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Shouldn’t of waited until blackfish to speak out. Now everyone’s making money off of it
Whereby it would help for others to share via social networks, thus going viral.
Orcas belong in the ocean not a pool.Animals belong in the wild not in a zoo or as someones pet
best interview I've seen on this topic. A must see for everyone interested in killer whales. thanks for sharing!
IT'S A WILD ANIMAL...GET IT.