Snatch Blocks, a Winch, and Determination -This Stump is Coming Out

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  • Pulling out a stump by using snatch blocks to gain a mechanical advantage. I used 3 snatch blocks and an 8000 pound Warn winch to remove this stump
    Also demonstrate in detail how to use snatch blocks with a winch to gain a mechanical advantage.
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  • @finniganshomestead2956
    @finniganshomestead2956 Рік тому +13

    A couple of points. If you move the hook back to the anchor tree you have less pressure on the tractor. the other thing is that the less cable you have on the drum of the winch the more pulling power you got but you retrieve less cable per turn. If you tractior pulls more than the winch, do not pull with the winch cable as you may damage the winch.

  • @larrywarolin7215
    @larrywarolin7215 Рік тому +3

    The real success story here is the salesman of the lawn tractor and loader.

  • @andrewribner3474
    @andrewribner3474 Рік тому +3

    As someone just beginning with pulleys I so appreciate what you said in the beginning about watching other videos from folks who really know about pulleys. I'm glad for those videos, for certain it is that a person can learn a lot from them. But sometimes, as you pointed out, what they are saying just isn't quite clear. I'm with you on that. Kudos to you for recording your experience with rigging a pulley system. It helped me come to a "more better" understanding.

  • @johnmerritt6328
    @johnmerritt6328 2 роки тому +21

    Persistence generally overcomes resistance! Good job, and showing the mistakes is probably a lot more helpful to your viewing audience.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +4

      I try to keep it real. Thanks for watching

    • @superelitespaceforce5609
      @superelitespaceforce5609 2 роки тому +1

      Better engineering and leverage would be much faster than persistence. I did something similar with a rope on my truck hitch, and got nowhere fast, until I hooked roots on the far side and pulled the bull rope directly over the stop of the stumps. It works like a miracle.

    • @johnmerritt6328
      @johnmerritt6328 2 роки тому

      @@superelitespaceforce5609 I won't argue with your first sentence, but I believe that the mistakes you make in life can, sometimes, teach you more than your successes. I just admired this fellows grit.

    • @superelitespaceforce5609
      @superelitespaceforce5609 2 роки тому

      @@johnmerritt6328 I can relate to that in spades.

    • @iamsecond3625
      @iamsecond3625 Рік тому

      Yes we do appreciate that!

  • @Three-leggedRanch
    @Three-leggedRanch 2 роки тому +7

    With every attempt, I kept holding my breath. Such relief when it finally came out!! Great determination and effort. Nice job!!

  • @scum4299
    @scum4299 Рік тому +3

    Persistance pays Off....Glad to see you got that Stummper!!!

  • @andrewanderson1436
    @andrewanderson1436 2 роки тому +3

    That was a lot of good hard work you put into that and came out on top. Snatch blocks are life savers.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      Yes sir. I think I made a couple of small mistakes with my technique that could’ve helped. That’s how it goes though. Just need a little more practice
      As always, thank you for watching

  • @JL_10acres
    @JL_10acres 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed the video. I like your ability to step by step show how you work through a problem. I also appreciate acknowledging not knowing a solution but then not giving up, working to create a solution.

  • @flatlinesup
    @flatlinesup 2 роки тому +9

    FYI/Tips: at the 7:59 point you can see an electric arc just to the right of your winch. That needs to be fixed. It could easily start a grass fire and burn your tractor to the ground (or worse) as well as adds additional stress/heat on your winch. Could be a cut/frayed wire, but likely a poor terminal attachment that needs to be cleaned/tightened.
    Winches are good at pulling, not taking shocking loads. Don't pull the winch cable with the tractor by backing up and trying to pull harder. You can destroy a winch that way. If you have to pull with the vehicle/tractor, ease into the slack and then pull with a steady throttle (and even that isn't recommended by any winch company)
    For every snatch block and tree strap you have, have/leave a good/rated shackle attached to it and you'll always be set to rig up and work.
    Good job on staying with it. Take my comment with a grain of salt, it's a lot easier analyzing a vid from a couch than when your actually doing the work. Thanks for the vid. Stay safe out there.

  • @rodbagley1686
    @rodbagley1686 2 роки тому +3

    Even before watching your whole video I love your determination. I'm watching to see how it goes. I'm pulling for you!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks

    • @geniferteal4178
      @geniferteal4178 Рік тому

      Came here to second this thought with my own comment. When I saw the darkness and the lights come on I'm amazed by your determination. This stump is coming out today! I won't sleep till it's out!.

  • @marvindiamonjr.9631
    @marvindiamonjr.9631 2 роки тому +5

    I had a similar situation with a much larger stump. Even after digging a ramp for the stump to slide up, it would still dig itself in and jam. I finally went over to my rock pile and got several buckets of six inch rocks to spread on the ramp. The stump came right out! Apparently the rocks acted like ball bearings and didn't allow the stump to dig in when dragged. All I know is that it worked like a charm. I was thinking that some sort of rail set might have worked also. My son kept telling me that I would never get that stump out of the ground. That only made me more determined, being the stubborn old man that I am. Above all else, determination is your best tool! I see you have plenty of that.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing the story
      I was ready to quit on it a couple times

  • @gladyshancock6601
    @gladyshancock6601 Місяць тому

    thank you you are helping a 75 yr old grandma and mt grand son but I dont have a tractor but I am really paying attention😊😊

  • @truesimplicity
    @truesimplicity Рік тому +2

    I was rooting for you... Now that's perseverance 🪵

  • @daveknowshow
    @daveknowshow 2 роки тому +4

    that looked like a fun adventure. I love a good challenge. I been wanting to get me a mechanical advantage set up for pulling stumps.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching
      I have been to your channel a few times as well

  • @rodneyscrivner2504
    @rodneyscrivner2504 2 роки тому

    Wow, Great Job Brock... I didn't think that would ever pull out of there, your persistence paid off .

  • @davidmays2161
    @davidmays2161 2 роки тому +1

    Brock - you remained a lot calmer than I would have. Glad to see you stayed with it. Wish I could have brought the 4044m down to help pull that ole stump out.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      I would love to drive a 4 series and I haven’t got a chance to yet
      I did get frustrated at one point and walked up to the house but then I turned around and went back
      Thanks for watching

  • @ksdj1
    @ksdj1 2 роки тому

    Wow, talk about fun on the farm! That was interesting and a little nerve racking. Congratulations on the final victory!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Yeah, I almost gave up but I’m glad I stuck with it.
      Thanks for watching

  • @chasb7771
    @chasb7771 Рік тому

    Wow 😮!!! You had such determination 👏👏👏

  • @maxasaurus3008
    @maxasaurus3008 Рік тому +1

    Dogged determination- that’s the shit that makes America the best nation in the world!

  • @kapperoutdoors
    @kapperoutdoors 2 роки тому

    I love the tenacity Brock! I was waiting for the sun to come up on this one LOL glad you stuck it out and won the battle! Very nice work.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I got frustrated but no way was I quitting
      Your Kubota would’ve just lifted it right out with the loader

  • @jimmcknight3021
    @jimmcknight3021 2 роки тому +5

    Great tenacity! It just goes to show you that if you don't have quite the hydraulics and horsepower Kama you can always find a way to use some leverage to get a lot of problems solved.

  • @raychilcote5558
    @raychilcote5558 2 роки тому

    nice buildup, adding each block. for the winch, the more cable out, the better. cable is closer to drum, giving more advantage. glad you got it out.

  • @Ntwadumela1
    @Ntwadumela1 2 роки тому +14

    6:13 With 2 snatch blocks set up like this you get 3:1 mechanical advantage so it's only a 50% gain over your first setup. You can get 4:1 MA with two blocks, but then one block would have to pull on the other. 7:55 You anchored your cable to the tractor so you have half the force on the tractor and the other half on the tree. If you anchored to the tree you'd have only 1/4 on the tractor and 3/4 on the tree. Your 3rd setup actually gets less MA then your 2nd one. The best scenario would be to anchor to the tree, unspool as much cable as possible (leaving only 5 wraps of cable on the drum) and put the tractor closer to the tree (the smaller the angle between the tractor and the tree, the greater the MA).

  • @khtractors
    @khtractors 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 9,000 pound winch but I’ve found they are not much under a dead drag like that. If you had enough cable and snatch blocks to have went twice between the tree and the stump then came directly out of one block to the winch it would have given more of a mechanical advantage. But it would have required 4 blocks or either two blocks with double pulleys. We learn a lot though by trying things in different manners like you did here. Glad you got it!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, this one is rated for 8000 pounds. It feels like it pulls about 10% harder than just driving with the tractor.
      Re-watching it this morning I think I made all my connections correctly With the single snatch block and the double snatch block
      WhenI put the third snatch block on and brought the cable back to the tractor i’m wondering if that basically would’ve made it a dead pull again? It needed to go back to the tree but I was out of cable
      This was my first time using snatch blocks and I feel like I learned a lot. Thanks for watching and for commenting

  • @williesnyder2899
    @williesnyder2899 2 роки тому +2

    Overbuild everything you hook up. Use large chain and be redundant with the wraps.
    Stay out of the line of pull. Expect the unexpected.
    Finally, obtain Jan Atkins’ book Moving Heavy Things. (It’s likely out of print, but truly excellent!)
    Practical physics, safely and persistently applied - mindful of leverage and angles - can and often will pull and lift what you set your hands to.
    Good luck from an old winch & jack fan.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing. I’m really impressed with how this type of mechanical advantage works.
      I have been looking into it for a while but this was my first time trying it
      Learned quite a bit
      Thanks for watching

  • @peacefieldfarm_mn
    @peacefieldfarm_mn 2 роки тому

    I was cheering the whole time... Success is sweet!! Cheers

  • @Gzus
    @Gzus 2 роки тому

    Nice work! I always keep one snatch block in my Jeep, just in case I get my 2dr Wrangler dickered and my VR Evo 10-Struggles. After watching this, I may pick up a second to throw in my toolbag.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Definitely good to be prepared. I have seen people do some crazy pulls with snatch blocks

  • @stevelipman1662
    @stevelipman1662 Рік тому +1

    I've been looking on UA-cam for weeks to see a video where a guy says "snatchblock" . . . Finally

    • @teddekker3383
      @teddekker3383 4 місяці тому

      Hah hah 😂 that's what we call them in Australia too 😊 the good old 8 tonne snatch block and it's little brother the 4 tonne snatchblock ... can be either two words or one word together, we all know them here Downunder 👍

  • @anthony84vette
    @anthony84vette 2 роки тому

    Now that's the definition of tenacity.....Good Job.......

  • @TrailWright
    @TrailWright 2 роки тому

    Nicely done. Thanks for sharing...

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      This was a fun project, and I learned a couple things.
      Thanks for watching

  • @rodshepard3967
    @rodshepard3967 2 роки тому

    Persistence definitely paid off with that big ole stump! Ha! Very nice! 👍

  • @drryan8426
    @drryan8426 2 роки тому

    Great video learned a lot thanks for posting it.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I learned a couple of things myself
      Thanks for watching

  • @deluxproductionsPRO
    @deluxproductionsPRO 2 роки тому +1

    Well one thing I’ve learned after all these years is that if Brock has something on his mind that he wants done it is as good as done no matter what it is or the process it takes to get there it will be!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Just give it time and you’ll make me look like small potatoes.
      Keep up the grind my friend

  • @kfvernon73
    @kfvernon73 2 роки тому +2

    The wet mud underneath was probably creating a suction too adding to the weight and force needed to remove. Kudos for continued effort!!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Yeah, that mud was not doing me any favors.
      Thanks for watching

  • @realrural7876
    @realrural7876 2 роки тому

    Man, you did a great job getting that stump up without tearing anything up.

  • @HamiltonvilleFarm
    @HamiltonvilleFarm 2 роки тому +1

    That thing put up a fight!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Yeah, It was a lot heavier than it looked
      Thanks for watching

  • @trekex
    @trekex Рік тому

    Brock, you need a Kubota M59 or M62 backhoe with a cab. You have so much on the go. What's great about either machine is, they're able to fit right in a 16' Dump trailer to go and do contracting work, like I do. Plus they have a front and rear hydraulic line for attachments. I have a hydro thumb. They're powerful enough, have more reach than a skid, doesn't tear up the grass, smoother ride, less tippy and plus, you have an excavator with you. Oh and, easier on fuel. Love your channel!!!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Рік тому

      Thanks. After buying the skid loader, I really wish I had got a mini excavator instead.
      Hard to change right now though.

  • @Buce-ku9vx
    @Buce-ku9vx 4 дні тому

    The stump from hell! 😅 Nice job.

  • @vacone1
    @vacone1 2 роки тому

    Did a good job defeating that stump. Dad would get the stump loose, then take a length of cable two hooks, we would slice everything holding underneath then pull out of the hole. Same technique with construction demolition of houses. Loop cables thru windows and slice each floor.

  • @lawman5511
    @lawman5511 2 роки тому

    Great set up on that JD! More lights than a San Diego Sheriff. And the bucket looks like a rigging store.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      You should see the bucket I’m running now
      Thanks for watching

  • @biggs8729
    @biggs8729 2 роки тому +36

    So a couple of things, first your angle is bad. The greater the angle from the tractor back to the anchor point the less pull you have. Park the tractor right next to the tree that you're anchored to and you'll get more pull. Second, the closer you get to the center of the spool the more torque you have, so you should run your cable all the way out leaving only five wraps of cable to get the most out of your winch.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for sharing

    • @superelitespaceforce5609
      @superelitespaceforce5609 2 роки тому +4

      Agree on getting tractor closer to anchor angle, and agree on smaller spool, but notice his tractor is sliding, so it's a mute point. Best technique is a large log in front of the stump with chain low on far side root and other end over the top of the stump and log for great leverage.

    • @geniferteal4178
      @geniferteal4178 Рік тому +1

      Just thinking quickly it would seem like having more cable on the winch would act like a bigger gear giving you more torque. Not saying you're wrong I just have to rethink that.

    • @terryk3118
      @terryk3118 Рік тому +8

      Having more cable on the spool will wind up the cable faster, but will reduce the torque.

    • @yaykruser
      @yaykruser Рік тому

      There is now way the tractor is holding almost 4 tons without moving.

  • @clarkewegener9197
    @clarkewegener9197 2 роки тому

    Very satisfying.

  • @Warmouth75
    @Warmouth75 2 роки тому

    Nicely done.

  • @WOODDIGDIY
    @WOODDIGDIY 2 роки тому +1

    Cool video, I do a lot of Stump Removals, most of the time it's a lot safer to just pull the whole tree over so u don't have any flying stumps. You also gain more leverage.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Good Point on the taller stump giving more leverage
      I mostly do stump grinding but occasionally dig one out
      Thanks for watching

    • @ronfox5519
      @ronfox5519 2 роки тому

      Very true. The leverage and the weight are tremendously helpful. Soggy ground helps alot too.
      A related word of warning- be carefull how you anchor to other trees/stumps than the one your trying to pull out. Its possible to pull the live tree over on yourself without even moving the stump.

  • @hayesoutdoorsandtractors3278
    @hayesoutdoorsandtractors3278 2 роки тому

    Great job Brock

  • @mrmeener625
    @mrmeener625 2 роки тому

    nice guy and he showed real world things that go wrong like the chain would not fit in the D ring

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I Learneda couple things on this project
      Thanks for watching

  • @johnmcgee7171
    @johnmcgee7171 2 роки тому

    YOU, sir, are DA MAN!

  • @lonewolfFirearms
    @lonewolfFirearms 2 роки тому

    Great determination my friend.

  • @madetv1647
    @madetv1647 Рік тому

    Was waiting for the Block & Tackle.... Might have worked a little better, but good video, shows that it's not always as easy as it seems!

  • @brettmakoviney7120
    @brettmakoviney7120 2 місяці тому

    I've never cared about how many pounds those straps are rated for I think good old fashioned iron chains are my go to 😊

  • @happyfacedleaf7349
    @happyfacedleaf7349 2 роки тому

    My guy was staring down the barrel of tank on that first pull. Bermuda triangle

  • @richarda5396
    @richarda5396 Рік тому

    As a homeowner who has done battle with many tree stumps this is what has worked best for me. Armed with a shovel, a reciprocating saw, a 20 ft chain, a 10 foot chain, 16 foot 8 by 8 timber or steel beam and my minivan. Dig as much as you can, cut all visible roots. Wrap the chain around the stump at least once attaching to a large root, place the end of the timber parallel to the ground against the stump, wrap chain around timber in a way that pulling on the other end of the timber will tighten the chain. It will take 1/4 to 1/2 to tighten. That 16' leverage will give you thousands of pounds of twisting force when attached to a vehicle. Place weighted blanket over chain to vehicle for safety. Wouldn't do it any other way. Good luck be safe.

  • @Kleiminc
    @Kleiminc 3 місяці тому

    Love the shirt 😄

  • @jameshopkins1260
    @jameshopkins1260 2 роки тому +1

    I love your shirt

  • @rogerdudra178
    @rogerdudra178 2 роки тому

    Looks like a good fight.

  • @Sventy11
    @Sventy11 2 роки тому

    I've dug some pretty big stumps with my backhoe on my BX23S. I usually just use the backhoe to lift them out and take them to a firepit

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing
      I definitely tried to move this one with the backhoe. Would not budge it. Weighs well over 2000 pounds

  • @phildavis4575
    @phildavis4575 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video on snatch blocks, Did you consider a bag of charcoal, once it gets going it will burn out the entire stump, takes about a week. Burns slowly.

  • @70Superbird
    @70Superbird 2 роки тому

    Love the shirt!

  • @MrConezone
    @MrConezone 9 місяців тому

    Love the shirt

  • @marylott3076
    @marylott3076 2 роки тому

    Woo-hoo! You did it!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      It was stubborn so I was happen to get it out
      Thanks for watching

  • @melvinlee6428
    @melvinlee6428 2 роки тому

    well I farm and all U needed was a bigger tractor and chain, ( maybe 350 hp) but I am sure it was fun, now I am 72 and fun things just keep happening. good vid. lol

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Yeah, I’ve been shopping some bigger equipment. Probably a 60 hp tractor would have lifted that straight out of the hole but for now I’m using what I have
      Thanks for watching

  • @Brian-nt1hh
    @Brian-nt1hh 10 місяців тому

    Now that was a workout

  • @Holzplatz
    @Holzplatz 9 місяців тому

    It took a while but at least you got it.

  • @DanaAPlant
    @DanaAPlant 19 днів тому

    At 6:30 you stated "the closer you get to the core of the winch, the less power you have" which is completely incorrect...a winch will stall out once a fixed amount of torque is exerted (torque = force x distance). You are correct that with the more cable you pull out, the closer your pull force is to the axis of the winch BUT with a smaller "distance" the fixed torque amount generates a LARGER pull force. In general an 8,000# winch will only generate 8,000# of pull when there is a single layer of wire/rope left on the drum, then 6,500# with two layers, 5,500# with 3 layers and 4,800# with the outer wrap. So, moving your tractor closer to the stump actually reduced your pulling force. Congrats on getting this monster out!

  • @hardydude69
    @hardydude69 2 роки тому

    I LOVE the shirt!!,

  • @Kleiminc
    @Kleiminc 3 місяці тому

    Good video brother

  • @wraith3951
    @wraith3951 2 роки тому +2

    Not sure if someone has mentioned this or not but the closer to the drum is where you get the most power in a winch. When you have more wraps/ layers of line on it the harder the winch works unlike how you stated.
    Now just asking a question, wouldn’t you want the dead end of the winch line tied into your anchor point? In your demo, the live tree should be the anchor point? Just curious.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Correct on both points. I misunderstood the manual on the number of wraps and the torque
      The final tie off the last time did not multiply leverage because it should’ve went back to the tree

  • @Comm0ut
    @Comm0ut 7 місяців тому

    Next time you can raise your pull angle by cutting a simple "rollover stick" to change the pull angle without being under much load. Wrecker drivers figured that out long ago.

  • @yolala100
    @yolala100 2 роки тому

    Yes Sir!!! 💪💪💪

  • @davidmcgann626
    @davidmcgann626 2 роки тому +1

    One thing that might give you a little more power is to put the bucket down and use the hydraulics in the bucket to help you move forward. Just a thought for something to try before you have to re rig the cable. Another thing might be to use the bucket to lift the stump and wrap a chain around the whole affair and try to roll it out from the side. Damn! What a challenge.

  • @user-pk3lp2qb7b
    @user-pk3lp2qb7b Рік тому

    The fun for man😄

  • @kenlelon369
    @kenlelon369 2 роки тому

    what I do is get my cousin, who plays guitar, and a case of beer. We get a bunch of wood and build a fire around the stump then drink beer and sing and when we get up all hung over the next day the stump is usually gone or close to it.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      That’s a fun way to do it. If I just want it down to ground level I use my stump grinder
      I wanted the entire root system gone on this one
      Thanks for watching

  • @ridermak4111
    @ridermak4111 2 роки тому +28

    Love your determination !! 👊😎
    I can help a little for next time.
    Moving pulleys (on the load) provide mechanical advantage.
    Stationary pulleys (at anchor) are only change of direction, not M.A.
    The more cable that is out of the winch (closer to the drum) the more power the winch has.
    When the winch can slide the tractor, anchor the front of the tractor to the tree.
    In fact, in this case, that would have been the best start. Cable from winch through stump pulley, back through pulley at tractor, back through pulley at stump, then terminated at tractor. That would be 4 to 1 just like you ended up with, but with front of tractor anchored instead of traction trouble.
    You are right on the money with the idea of lifting up. Huge bonus of mechanical advantage when you get the angles correct with this setup:
    ua-cam.com/video/pccuAUNwfw8/v-deo.html

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing

    • @ridermak4111
      @ridermak4111 2 роки тому

      @@RockhillfarmYT
      I hope you got the link at the end.
      I had to go ahead and post and then go looking for that video, then come back and drop the link. That was the coolest part I wanted to share. That guy with the big A-frame was too cool.

    • @10acresadream83
      @10acresadream83 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree with Rider Mac but I think you’re biggest problem is your lack of current to the winch. Been there and done that. You need pure copper one or two gauge with good connectors.

    • @KelikakuCoutin
      @KelikakuCoutin Рік тому

      I think he hooked it up backwards, so that the cables coming from the blocks were pulling, not the stump but on what he meant to be the anchor point (that tree).

    • @thepotterer3726
      @thepotterer3726 Рік тому

      With this sort of setup - you never want to anchor the front of the tractor.

  • @ChevyARt15
    @ChevyARt15 Рік тому

    Oh the satisfaction.

  • @srlgto55
    @srlgto55 2 роки тому

    It's all about determination!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I almost quit. Oh I went in the house for about two minutes and got mad and went back out

  • @LBstrikesagain
    @LBstrikesagain 2 роки тому

    Now that is persistence! I would have grabbed a case of beer, dumped a bunch of diesel and gas and lit that thing off and enjoyed the fire! But good job you man!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. It was really more about getting experience with the winch and the snatch blocks then it was about what happened to the stump.
      Thanks for watching

  • @williamlindsey4148
    @williamlindsey4148 2 роки тому

    All looked good to me on your technique. What you called D rings we called a clevis. But all the same at the end of the day!

  • @Thomas-om6ov
    @Thomas-om6ov 2 роки тому

    great video mate but when using the winch you want little cable on bc the more wraps of cable on the drum the lower the pulling capacity of the winch but you want at least 6 wraps of cable on the drum

  • @medjoolmaker
    @medjoolmaker 2 роки тому

    That’s a lot of work.
    Did you try digging around with your backhoe? Did you try car tire with chains to pull up and out? Did you cut the roots with an axe?

  • @Raul28153
    @Raul28153 2 роки тому

    In you video right around 7:59 as you winch is starting to load up there is a bright flash an electrical short on the right hand side of the winch in the darkness behind it. Dunno what it is but you might want to check.

  • @charliemckay6402
    @charliemckay6402 2 роки тому

    Before farmers had tractors they pulled stumps that did not have tap roots out by building a pyramid of posts to support a block and tackle that pulled straight up as shown in many paintings and ancient photos of the day.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Really impressive what they were above to accomplish
      Thanks for watching

  • @rayzeish
    @rayzeish Рік тому

    Great effort, just a thought, you do not drag a barrel, you roll it, most trees are weak to a rotating force x, from U.K.X

  • @2longg
    @2longg Рік тому

    We all felt your pain! Stumps are the devils creation!

  • @ritterjon
    @ritterjon 2 роки тому +2

    💥 I love mechanical advantage videos. I was surprised that stump was giving you such a hard time. What is that winch rated for? I bought a couple snatch blocks about a month ago to eventually make the same type of video.
    *Keep on tractoring*

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому +2

      It’s an 8000 pound warn winch

    • @beetle442002
      @beetle442002 2 роки тому +1

      I maybe wrong but I believe that winch ratings are taken with it winding the first layer of cable onto the drum which is where it has the most pull force. Also, I thought using one snach block only changed the direction of the pulling force unless it anchored back to the winch/ tractor in this case.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing

    • @ronfox5519
      @ronfox5519 2 роки тому

      @@RockhillfarmYT
      Great video. Problem solving at its best.
      I was suprised to hear you say that an 8000lb winch could out pull your tractor.
      The little experience ive had with winches- even 12,000 lb -left me with the impression that it took a whole lotta winch to equal a regular truck. And i thought that a tractor could out pull a truck, so therefore, a winch would be no match for a tractor. Would be interested in anybodies opinion on this.

  • @ebuckholt
    @ebuckholt 2 роки тому +1

    Lol I just think it's funny how long it took you to get that stump out from how loose it was.... I get 4 to 6 stumps out in a single day using the tractor only and some water

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      When I turned on the camera for this video the stump was not loose it was 100% dettached from all of the roots. I had already tried to dig a ramp with the backhoe and drag it out that way but that didn’t work
      The Video really wasn’t even about getting the stump out.
      I ended up throwing it back in that hole a couple of months later and burning it
      What it was about was testing out rigging with the new winch to see if I could increase mechanical advantage by running it through snatch blocks in a controlled environment.
      First I tried just pulling it out with just the tractors power and then I tried it with with the rigging.
      The reason that it was hard to get the stump out is it was lodged against the side of the hole and it weighed over 2000 pounds

  • @dakotamax2
    @dakotamax2 Рік тому

    Instead of a tire (by "tire" I'd assume just the wheel or rim), I wonder how a large industrial cable spool would work to redirect force upward?

  • @Cowboy_Steve
    @Cowboy_Steve Рік тому

    Simple rule of thumb with mechanical advantage... moving pulleys do work (mechanical advantage). Stationary (or anchored) pulleys only provide change of direction (no mechanical advantage). The highest mechanical advantage is if the lines coming in and out of a moving pulley are parallel to each other. So as the angle into and out of the working pulley increases, your mechanical advantage decreases. The angle into and out of an anchored or stationary pulley has no affect on the mechanical advantage - it is only providing a change in direction, not doing work. The tricky part is making sure you have an anchor that is stronger than what you are tying to move... otherwise your anchor can suddenly become your load lol.

  • @ronhanish
    @ronhanish Рік тому

    yes every pulley added reduces load by 50 percent, at 180 degrees i believe . if the degree changes like a 45 there is still advantage and reduction of the load. i learned in construction.

  • @ebuckholt
    @ebuckholt 2 роки тому

    I always use my tractor to dig around the stump of any size, bust the roots and push it out with tractor... stubborn stumps get water for 2 whole days and never fails... they come out

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I definitely don’t baby my tractor. I have 600 hard hours on it doing all kinds of work that it isn’t even designed to do
      Here is an example
      Brush Hogging In the Woods - I Really Needed a Bulldozer for This
      ua-cam.com/video/BGIx3Csswh4/v-deo.html
      I’ve dug out tons of stumps with my tractor. I also have a stump grinder and I do stump grinding as a side business
      in the video you are talking about I was not trying to dig out a stump though
      You are describing how to get the roots broke loose. All of the roots were broke loose long before I started recording this video
      I was just testting the best way to pull it out of the hole since it weighed a lot more than the lift capacity of the tractor
      It was hard to recognize the weight of that stump because the root system was full of big rocks.
      If I really just wanted it out I could’ve cut the top of it off and made it lighter but I wanted to test out rigging options

  • @PurpleCollarLife
    @PurpleCollarLife 2 роки тому

    Wow - that was a tough one. All day project! Great accomplishment. Now what are you going to do with that big old stump?

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I’m thinking about throwing it in the pond.
      I need to add a log or some rocks or something for structure and for some of the smaller fish to hide in. If I can knock the dirt off of the bottom of it the roots should work well for that?

  • @larrymccullough339
    @larrymccullough339 Рік тому

    You have to move on other side of stump pull in opposite direction and it would have came out you had one side of stump broken lose but I dig stumps like that up in a hour with my IH485 with old model Massey Ferguson backhoe mounted on it

  • @Benny1581
    @Benny1581 2 роки тому

    Just a thought - your winch has more power at the center of the drum.
    The full rating of the winch is based drum, and loses power as the cable layers in.
    More line out = more power. Happy pulling

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing. I read that in the owners manual of the winch but I misunderstood it and thought you had more power when the drum was full.
      Always learning something new

  • @timheyboer4786
    @timheyboer4786 2 роки тому +1

    So, your weakest link is a 6000lb rated chain.. Then you attach 3 snatch blocks to it, and pull with an 8000lb winch. I think you grossly overloaded that chain.
    I was glad to see you move out of "the triangle of death" after the 1st attempt.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Right
      Thanks for watching

    • @Jtwizzle
      @Jtwizzle 2 роки тому

      Those straps usually list their breaking strength, not the working load limit. Chains list their working load limit, what they can be used at on a day in and day out basis. Their breaking strength is 3-5 times the working load limit. So they are closer in strength than you may think.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Yeah, I wasn’t worried about breaking the chains. Brand new 3/8 diameter grade 70
      If you were doing it every day it might be different

  • @jamesdacy7332
    @jamesdacy7332 Рік тому

    I would've maybe tried taking a pressure washer and try to blast away any dirt clinging to the stump that could've reduced the weight by a good bit. Then again it would also turn that spot into a big mud hole so idk it would've helped or not just my 2 cents

  • @davidparnell1893
    @davidparnell1893 2 роки тому

    Add a 6 ton chain come-along....sure was hard on that winch....OMG, think of the strain on all those gears, bearings, shafts, and housing in that SUPER EXPENSIVE little tractor.

  • @geniepsm5127
    @geniepsm5127 Рік тому

    Would it work pulling the tree to loosen the stump and roots before cutting down the tree?

  • @aaronwilcox6417
    @aaronwilcox6417 Рік тому

    I believe you got that backwards about the layers of line on the winch. Less is actually more power. You need to be farther and have as much wraps off the drum as possible. It's like a gear on a bike sprocket. I used to operate a large mine hoist for years at an deep underground mine and the cable or rope layers matter tremdously for drawing amps and lifting capacity. So cable on the drum as far out as possible, ideally only have one wrap on.

  • @roykarstetter1559
    @roykarstetter1559 2 роки тому +1

    A
    winch is at its weakest when FULL ( 65% of the max power rating) and STRONGEST when on the FIRST wrap on the drum.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      Right. I said it backwards in the video
      Thanks for watching

  • @jasonh4167
    @jasonh4167 Рік тому

    to get the full capacity of the winch let all your line off the drum to the first layer that's where the most power comes from. (the smaller drum diameter)✌

  • @patrickcorbett8361
    @patrickcorbett8361 2 роки тому

    Good job Brock...keeping your cool was amazing !

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 роки тому

      I definitely got frustrated a couple times
      Thanks for watching