We purchased pot lights from Vega Lighting a while back but need a couple more. Is there an alternative pot light that would best approximate the Vega Lighting 4" one? Do they all sort of look the same? I would hate to have different looking pot lights in the same room (or different color of the white light).
Out of all the thousands of DIY style channels on this website I gotta say your videos are the most informative and enjoyable to watch. Just all great information and a thorough explanation with tidbits of tips and tricks. Absolutely top notch.
Dude, I love this channel! I've seen hundreds of DIY videos over the years. Jeff explains everything so we'll without dragging it out and is constantly giving tips not just installing but shopping, buying, and organizing. I think youre the only UA-camr that deserves a national show on HGTV. I'd rather watch this, than This Old House
I love idea of drilling in reverse! I would like to make a suggestion that everyone might like in addition to your great idea. I learned a trick where when drilling into a ceiling using a hole saw, you cut a large plastic water bottle jug below that neck, you can install it as a shroud between the chuck and the holesaw. . As a result, there is no dust to clean up!
My Dad was an electrician for a long time and taught me a trick when you're adding pot lights to a renovated space and don't know what's in the ceiling. When you have your proposed layout marked out on the ceiling in pencil: 1) cut off 10" from the end of a metal clothes hanger 2) bend the end of this piece at 90 degrees with a length equal to the radius of your pot light (it should look like an 'L') 3) stick this in the ceiling and rotate the coat hanger to check for unexpected obstacles This is essential to do BEFORE you start cutting out the hole for the first light. If light 8 of 12 hits an obstacle you might need to adjust your whole layout. I hope this helps. Thanks for all your videos Jeff!
@@mike9887 A long flexible/bendy drill bit on a shallow angle is your friend if you're doing this in a closed ceiling. Just make sure you *know* there's nothing on the other side of the joist. I also found it helpful in a couple cases to use an old wire in the ceiling as a 'fish' or 'guide' cable for routing new cables in a closed ceiling.
Some of the things i like about your channel: - There is always loads of detail to do even the simplest jobs, so you cant go wrong - You show real life situations that include mistakes and challenges - You give costs and where to source things cheaper without compromising quality - You discuss alternative ways to do things - Good camera angles and clear dialogue - You fund raise, your not all about yourself - and you show personality, i feel like i know you as a person which makes me come back for more! Without doubt 1 of my top 5 channels, great stuff!
particularly liked the reverse drilling, gloves, spring strength as an indicator of quality and discarding the gasket except for bathrooms. Great video, thank you.
Those LED lights are fantastic. I put six of them into my wife’s sewing studio and it took just under five hours. I was not hurrying, so I could have done this faster. The lights I bought also have four color settings, 2600K, 3000K, 4000K and 5000K. We are so happy with them
Thank you Sir. You save my life and money! Love your videos, I can't stop watching them and learning from you. As a mother of three daughters I can't afford to pay for renovations but I love to do things for my self. Thank you so much and God bless you!
Love the reverse hole saw trick. I’ve never thought of that and I’ve installed hundreds of these being an electrician. If I could give a tip of my own leave more wire in the box to splice you can fold them to fit also never grab the wire with pliers to push into the quick connect you risk damaging the wire and causing a short. All and all good video. Those good quality lights
I did this about 6 months ago . Put in 12 of these same lights in kitchen/dining room. My access to the attic was very difficult so rather than going up there I laid out my locations for each of the holes and checked with my stud finder to avoid studs . At this point I drilled out all my holes and was only close to one stud and due to the low profile of the lights it was still very easy to install. To wire them all up I removed the existing junction box for the previous wiring and moved it over to the first light and connected it up and cut another length plus 2' of 14/3 just to be sure I had enough to make easy connections. and just daisy chained all (8) for the kitchen area and did the same for the dining area. The whole project took me less than two hours. And the Wago connectors absolutely made the biggest difference in time savings. Folks come over and can't believe I did it myself and for less than $150. Friends are asking if I will come help them . Great video and wish I had known the reverse trick it would have saved me a couple of BooBoo's
Thanks for your detailed description! I appreciate it as I had questions about how to go from one light to 12 with new wiring. Your explanation makes sense.
Lol listening to you talk about hard ware and DIY's calms my stress levels 🤣🤣🤣. I'll even just play your videos in the background and learn little pieces as I catch them haha. Thank you for all your helpful information! 🥰 God Bless you sir! (You have also helped me complete several projects! Love your channel!)
You are the absolute best teacher on UA-cam for this stuff. seriously. I enjoy all your videos. Funny, informative and simple. Some people are just great at teaching and you got that down! Thanks again !
You have become a family member!!! We watch you with our morning coffee and whenever we need to learn the correct way to do our projects....We have watched others and my personal opinion is that your voice and teaching style keeps us focused...Thanks Suzanne and Dale
Revere drilling was something I learned from my brother when he was helping me mod our kitchen, he also showed me how to cut vinyl siding with a plywood blade installed backwards in my cordless saw, clean no chipping cuts every time.
Gotta say, this channel and these videos are exceptionally good. My electrician put these exact lights into my bathroom and basement and I had to remove one to work on the shower ceiling. These lights hold on like they’re in cement, then suddenly they’re free of the drywall, and come down on your finger like a damn mouse trap, Christ those springs!
I've been renovating my house over the last two years. When I started, I found the same lights on Amazon for $14 a piece in a 12-pack. I bought a pack, thinking I got such a great deal. Since then, I've bought a new pack every room or two that I've renovated. But I've also found cheaper and cheaper lights each time. The last pack I bought cost me $6.50 per light! And hilariously, they are all the exact same light from the exact same factory, like you said.
Nice job and great info all the way around. I was stuck on what type of lights to get for my kitchen counter area and the video answered all the questions I had about it. Then on top of everything you put in a link to the best lights for the money. Your professionalism and attention to detail is much appreciated.
Just found these same lights for my daughters remodel. Since I'm an old school carpenter, retired. I'm used to the old can recessed lights. wish these were around 15-20 yrs ago . love your vids. I'm in the middle of a full bathroom, kitchen, down to the bare bones renovation...picked up quit a few ideas from your channel...Keep them coming..
I’m not the type to sign up to websites and stuff but I did just to comment on this guy. This man is so Thorough, he speaks so clearly and explains everything so efficiently. Being a first time homeowner I’ve learned so much watching his videos. I’m glad I came across his videos on home repairs. Keep up the good work and thank you so much for all your help! He gets a 5 🌟star rating from me
When I do recessed add ons I like to put my drill in a cardboard box. Have a hole cut in for my arm to get in the box. Then When I drill all the dust collects in the box. I do this if I don’t have a shop vac to use. Helps on the mess
Get a cheap Tupperware or knock off plastic bowl make hole big enough for the shank that goes into your drill chuck and it will stay in the bowl or look up rac-a-teir dust bowl and you'll see what I'll trying to explain
Absolutely love this video. Im actually doing this in my mothers kitchen tomorrow. I took down the big ugly box with the florescent tubes so I can put in canless lights. Needed this video. Thanks
Well Done! You talk fast, explain well, great tips and advice without blathering on and on. Most videos I up the speed just to get past all the irrelevant stuff. I love you.
You are amazing!!!! Never thought about drilling the hole in reverse. i did recessed lights 7 years ago as a project with my fiance - now wife. I wish i would have come across this video. I was lucky though snd didnt have too much problems. Did recessed lighting in every room. Glad its all done and will never have to do it again. Hardest part was running the wiring. I am a fan. Great channel!!!
Holy crap, I think this is one of the best, most approachable DIY videos I've seen. Easy to understand and lots of tips to make the process easier. Thanks for a great tutorial!
021421/1439h. PST. Good day to you and Happy Valentine’s Day. Thank you very much for the procedure. Not many people would give away the ‘trade secrets’. This was a selfless gift to every one. Hats off to you, Sir. Take care, be safe and Bless you. 73s...
This was the easy part of installing pot lights how about you show us how to run the wires especially through floor joists. I think that would be beneficial for everyone
Agreed and the linked video is for pre construction. How do you do this after the drywall is already up and painted? Can you work a full size drill through one of the 4" holes for the can lights and then just drill a hole in the joist by feel? Or do you have to remove a larger section of drywall so you get to the joists with a drill.
I like your common sense way of explaining thing. I also like that you don't use high energy tactics overwhelming the viewer with information like other channels do. I feel like other channels do this because they only know what they read off the manufacturers box while you actually know what you're talking about.
I like the connection fitting. Make your job easier n faster. Without a screwdriver. And saves over tightening. And connectors comes in 2 cables fitting 3 n 4 n 5. So much easier. Great content.
Thank you for the step by step explanation. Literally helped me do my kitchen renovation, everything was step by step and it was truly amazing. Thank you!
Tip: When drilling for any holes not just in the ceiling, but also on walls, etc. Particularly in a functioning kitchen, room, etc. Get your wife/kid/neighbor/friend, whoever is at hand. Hold the vacuum cleaner long tube extended to near the hole. The vast majority of the dust will be collected on the spot. Saves a lot of after cleaning and general mess. ;-)
add a fake fireplace. Great ambiance. So, will need to add extra electric outlet with GFI in middle of wall. Wall fireplace is great. You can add atmosphere and heat to your bathroom. Everyone will be impressed. 3 feet clearance all directions.
Thank you for this! I installed these, myself 😊 in my Kitchen and now I want to do it in the bathroom and living room. Thanks to your suggestions, advice and know how, I easily and quickly installed these type of lights! Had to get an electrician friend to tell me how to wire it, but this was a great video for me.
That’s caused by improperly ventilated attics, the light isn’t the problem at all. Too much attic ventilation is a really bad thing and causes higher utility costs, dust and a musty mildewed attic.
I was working in cookie factarory, same cookies in established brands "expensive" boxes and in diferend supermarket chains "cheep" plastic bags, you just switch bale of packaging material.
Cheaper and better variations coming from the SAME supplier sold with different branding is the most UNDERRATED tip in this entire channel! I think it deserves its own video! I wonder how many different common products in home improvement can be found cheaper with the same or higher quality from different retailers. I know it definitely applies to most products in Amazon can be found in alibaba where you can see the Chinese supplier selling products customized with your own brand and color theme variations if you buy in bulk so if you see similar products on Amazon go with the cheapest one!
A long time ago I worked at a fish processing plant in Alaska. The salmon were put into cans and shipped to different companies around the world. Then those companies put their own wraps on those cans. I learned that you can pay more or less for canned salmon, but it's all the same. I assume it's still that way.
@@miken54tuning99 Yeah I found them for that price with that code. Ordered 12. Color change option is great! Product Pro was the company I got them from.
Thank you for such a good and to the point video! I wish all of those pretend experts and diy folks would not make their videos on this subject because the have poor to misleading info. It’s getting harder to learn things from UA-cam anymore because everybody and their dog is making videos now just to make a buck
Went back to watch this video again as I knew Jeff stated the price he paid and boom, of course the price almost doubled since this video. Guess i'm not saving much afterall! Thanks for the video Jeff, if nothing else, great information and instruction and that's money in the bank!!!
Jeff thank you for being you! You make learning easy and fun! I have learned lots of things thanks for sharing and also caring! God Bless You ...Jesus Loves You!
Jeff, do you have a video tutorial for installing pot lights as a renovision in a completed room where pot lights weren't originally planned? Specifically, accessing and adding to existing electrical to run new wiring, such as a process using an auger. BTW, I've really learned and put into practice a ton of your teaching. Thanks so much!
I would love that vid as well! We are doing Reno’s and want to add pot lights to our vaulted ceilings before we sell. We also want to remove/cover painted popcorn in the house (ugh…what a job)
Pro Tip: Cut more of the outer sheathing from the wire so that longer wires are exposed. It will be easier to work with the wiring connections than with the shorter lengths demonstrated here. Longer wires will easily tuck inside the box.
Great video and nice tips. Picked up the 12 pack from Lowes for the discounted price of $ 199.00. The wife then found these exact lights at another location for $ 10.00 ea. I was a little worried about the quality of the lights, but after seeing this video, I feel more confident we did the right thing by returning the Lowes package and purchasing these. Thanks
Thanks so much for this video! I’ve got a home built in the 50’s - built like an iron bunker - but no ceiling lights. Everything runs off the outlets. I’ve been wanting to install cans but way too much work for what I want to do. These pucks are just the thing!!
Awesome video!! I like how you even mentioned “when” to do your lights. I just bought a 1983 train wreck of a house. Well-intentioned owners but they made bad design decisions after having it built and kinda lost their minds as they got older. They eventually passed and their house hit the market as an “as-is” at full price. Ugh. Anyway, every last detail needs to be fixed/updated. I mean not just the popcorn ceilings, base board being used as crown moulding, chair rail, base, and door trim.... just every single thing imaginable is ruined. Every door, every inch of the wall-papered and sloppily painted walls... 100% of everything :( So I get to make this ole house new again and pray to get my money back in a couple years. I was unsure of when to do the lights. After paint but before floors or what? I figured the order is de-popcorn/skim coat (or texture ceiling), skim and texture walls, crown and door/window trim, then floors (12 different... bad job flooring types in an 1800 sq foot home 🤢) and back up to the lights but I wasn’t sure. The glove idea is great too, thanks!
Go slow and take a deep breath and think of a process. You're on the right channel, DIY done smart will save a lot. Hired work that you can afford isn't always going to have the quality you'd want, and if you bought your forever home, or want it to be, you'll look at those walls, trim, paint, patches etc for quite a while. Start with areas that are invisible if you're beginning. As a renter, I fixed a lot of landlord or tenant or maintenance guy sloppy work. I first started mudding, trim, wall paint etc in the closet, literally.
Sounds like we just bought the same house. haha. Ours is 1980 and EVERYTHING needs to be redone. There are six different types/colors of light switches throughout the house, 8 different floors, hideous trim, the wrong types of mouldings used, 6 different types of door knobs, every possible metal finish for lighting and bathroom hardware. No ceiling lights in more than half the rooms. It's a mess. 2,600 sq feet needing to be redone.
I LOVE your videos! I've watched SO many. Just removed a 70s light fixture in my kitchen... repaired the drywall... and installed 4 ultra-slim LED lights that I bought online for less than $10 each. AND they're the color adjustable kind. ;-) Thanks!!
Just put in 4 of these, 3 over the vanity and 1 in the shower, holy cow, going from 2 incandescent bulbs to now 5 LED fixtures makes a crazy difference!
A rough rule I read somewhere and like to follow for 6 inch lights is the spacing between lights should be about half the distance from floor to ceiling. So, for an 8 foot ceiling, space lights about 4 feet apart, 9 foot ceilings 4.5 feet apart. I will usually keep that as the minimum spacing and go as far as 6 feet in between lights, any further and you will have dark spots and shadows. Also, keep in mind distance from fans and anything else that may create shadows.
That is true in the field but will in running next to a cabinet you want to stay at least three feet away from the wall so that the light will shine down on the counters and not the cabinets
Looks great! How much does installing these affect any room soundproofing? I planned on installing these in a basement bedroom but I'm worried that the soundproofing idea would be compromised.
12:54 Just taking a moment to show that jag and what to note from the knock out is one of the million reasons why I subscribe and everyone loves Jeff and this channel. You're Ottawa gold my friend! You help balance out all the stress and nonsense of the industry and stress with renovating projects, increasing costs and wives and husbands that holler at us!
Superb video! Thank you for taking the time to explain all the small details of purchasing what will turn out to be a better product at a better value. Love the comment about wearing gloves when touching the ceiling or walls. Nothing worse than seeing the nasty prints a couple of weeks later. Thanks again...
I'm purchasing a new build with these already in but want smart lights. All the smart lights I see have a connector to a traditional lightbulb fixture, not to a junction box. Cut at the end and just run it into the box? Do most places just throw it up there so it can be accessed?
That was a great video! I just found your channel recently when looking to fix nail pops and you helped me fix those with ease. Your videos are excellent. Would you be able to share the brand/retailer you purchased those lights from? Thanks!
Great video I am a retired electrician after 40 years it amazes me how many licensed electricians destroy ceiling tiles and sheet rock ceilings because they run the drill in the forward position so great info on that ,i’m not a big fan of the push in connectors (Wagos)I never use them I wire nut everything but I understand it’s a very lite load and a tight spot so they are very convenient I’ll give you that but I still never use them had to replace too many that failed maybe the new ones are better I don’t know but they have very little surface contact with the wire which can create heat all right I’m done Whinnying great video 👍
In the beginning of the video, you said you would get into the different color variations and how to map them out. Is that coming in the next video or have you discussed that in a previous video? Thanks for a great tutorial.
Just a suggestion, leave a little more wire in the junction box so you can connect the wires to the wago’s without using your pliers, coming from an electrician from the states, love the gloves! Nothing worse than seeing a bunch of finger smudges all over the walls and ceilings!
I'm putting these into my basement now (well cans on an old drop ceiling that I'm salvaging). Everything I've read says in general take your ceiling height and divide it by 2. So if you have 8 foot ceilings, space them every four feet. 10 foot ceilings, every 5 feet, etc. There's plenty of other things that come into play, such as the type of lighting you're going for (general, task, feature, etc), other lights you may add, windows, focal points, etc. You can get really into it to where you don't want to learn another thing about lights (trust me 😃) but there's calculators out there to take the light angle, ceiling height, etc to give you the optimal spacing configuration.
This blog has some cool tools for figuring out how many lights you need and how to lay them out. I used his layout tool then put post-it notes on the ceiling in the recommended places to check how it looked. I'm close to buying the lights and busting out the tools. Hope this helps.
Thanks man for the vid. Im one of those guys that are afraid to drill a hole on the drywall even Im a trade person. Thanks for knowledge. Keep it up. Well earned subs!
Great job! I don't know why you got 1K who don't like your video. Thanks for you time and effort. I just love watching videos online and I found your video to be "Awesome" so Thank you! Have a great day and remember to be "COVID" safe brother.
@@Candisa We build 5/8" drywall boxes around the potlights for fire separation and soundproofing. It's extra work but required by code especially, in multi-unit residential.
find some old basketball and cut it in half along the seam , you will get two pieces that looks like a bowl , Then drill a hole into the center of one half of the ball and insert your hole saw bit and it will catch drywall debris..you get the idea...good luck
Very good video. Pro-tip though...do not strip the outer casing of the wire bundle with a snap-blade. This is slow, can cause cuts to hands and the wires inside. Simply take lineman's pliers, grab the bare ground wire at the tip and pull away from the other wires. An instantly split outer casing that can be snipped off with the wire cutter/stripper.
I really don't think he's done what you said. More likes he's helped you to learn a new skill and encourage you brain to learn you can do it. For that you thank Jeff
Many brands of those remodel style lights sell those low voltage extension cables up to 20 feet, in case you want to install the drivers somewhere else.
@@dallas5374 I'm referring to the low voltage cable that runs from the transformer to the light, not the line voltage to the transformer. He mentioned that the transformer to light cable is short, and I wanted people to know that is not the case for all remodel style LED lights. Sometimes it's not possible to put the transformer near the light, and with 20 ft of cable you can get really creative by putting it on a wall or in a different room where there's Romex, and running the low voltage cable to the light.
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these lights are currently not available. we are working on building our own supply chain to make them more affordable. Cheers!
Great information as always. Will these lights work with double layer drywall?
When can we expect the stock and is there a link where we can check and buy? Thanks.
We purchased pot lights from Vega Lighting a while back but need a couple more. Is there an alternative pot light that would best approximate the Vega Lighting 4" one? Do they all sort of look the same? I would hate to have different looking pot lights in the same room (or different color of the white light).
Where to buy those led pot light
Out of all the thousands of DIY style channels on this website I gotta say your videos are the most informative and enjoyable to watch. Just all great information and a thorough explanation with tidbits of tips and tricks. Absolutely top notch.
Really appreciate that. Thank you. Cheers
Dude, I love this channel! I've seen hundreds of DIY videos over the years. Jeff explains everything so we'll without dragging it out and is constantly giving tips not just installing but shopping, buying, and organizing. I think youre the only UA-camr that deserves a national show on HGTV. I'd rather watch this, than This Old House
Cheers! I appreciate that very much
Isnt called grommet?
If nothing else, the tip to run the hole saw in reverse when drilling into drywall, was worth its weight in gold.
This guy is a total king.
Agree.
indeed
One of the first things I was taught when I was an apprentice install retro cans..., years ago... 😁😁😁
Same thing applies when you are cutting holes in vinyl siding.
Hey man no joke you deserve your Own TV show. Your videos literally help me renovate my entire home at a fraction of the cost. For that I thank you.
I love idea of drilling in reverse! I would like to make a suggestion that everyone might like in addition to your great idea. I learned a trick where when drilling into a ceiling using a hole saw, you cut a large plastic water bottle jug below that neck, you can install it as a shroud between the chuck and the holesaw. . As a result, there is no dust to clean up!
My Dad was an electrician for a long time and taught me a trick when you're adding pot lights to a renovated space and don't know what's in the ceiling.
When you have your proposed layout marked out on the ceiling in pencil:
1) cut off 10" from the end of a metal clothes hanger
2) bend the end of this piece at 90 degrees with a length equal to the radius of your pot light (it should look like an 'L')
3) stick this in the ceiling and rotate the coat hanger to check for unexpected obstacles
This is essential to do BEFORE you start cutting out the hole for the first light. If light 8 of 12 hits an obstacle you might need to adjust your whole layout.
I hope this helps. Thanks for all your videos Jeff!
cheers marcus. that works if you are fishing in a closed ceiling. !
exactly correct. I call it spotting a hole
This was the exact question I have as I have to do this an cut through a number of floor joists.
@@mike9887 A long flexible/bendy drill bit on a shallow angle is your friend if you're doing this in a closed ceiling. Just make sure you *know* there's nothing on the other side of the joist. I also found it helpful in a couple cases to use an old wire in the ceiling as a 'fish' or 'guide' cable for routing new cables in a closed ceiling.
Oh - and a nice set of cable rods/guides if you don't already have them
Some of the things i like about your channel:
- There is always loads of detail to do even the simplest jobs, so you cant go wrong
- You show real life situations that include mistakes and challenges
- You give costs and where to source things cheaper without compromising quality
- You discuss alternative ways to do things
- Good camera angles and clear dialogue
- You fund raise, your not all about yourself
- and you show personality, i feel like i know you as a person which makes me come back for more!
Without doubt 1 of my top 5 channels, great stuff!
Totally agree, this guy is an excellent teacher and gives the why, and not just the how...👍
particularly liked the reverse drilling, gloves, spring strength as an indicator of quality and discarding the gasket except for bathrooms. Great video, thank you.
You summed up the video...
Except for bathrooms and ceilings with attics above.
Those LED lights are fantastic. I put six of them into my wife’s sewing studio and it took just under five hours. I was not hurrying, so I could have done this faster. The lights I bought also have four color settings, 2600K, 3000K, 4000K and 5000K. We are so happy with them
What brand?
Would you please tell me where to find this lights? Thank you 🙏!!!
Just bought a 20 pack of the 6 inchers for the basement. This channel has been a a blessing. Thank you Jeff for your quality content.
Thank you Sir. You save my life and money! Love your videos, I can't stop watching them and learning from you. As a mother of three daughters I can't afford to pay for renovations but I love to do things for my self. Thank you so much and God bless you!
Love the reverse hole saw trick. I’ve never thought of that and I’ve installed hundreds of these being an electrician. If I could give a tip of my own leave more wire in the box to splice you can fold them to fit also never grab the wire with pliers to push into the quick connect you risk damaging the wire and causing a short. All and all good video. Those good quality lights
I did this about 6 months ago . Put in 12 of these same lights in kitchen/dining room. My access to the attic was very difficult so rather than going up there I laid out my locations for each of the holes and checked with my stud finder to avoid studs . At this point I drilled out all my holes and was only close to one stud and due to the low profile of the lights it was still very easy to install. To wire them all up I removed the existing junction box for the previous wiring and moved it over to the first light and connected it up and cut another length plus 2' of 14/3 just to be sure I had enough to make easy connections. and just daisy chained all (8) for the kitchen area and did the same for the dining area. The whole project took me less than two hours. And the Wago connectors absolutely made the biggest difference in time savings.
Folks come over and can't believe I did it myself and for less than $150. Friends are asking if I will come help them .
Great video and wish I had known the reverse trick it would have saved me a couple of BooBoo's
Thanks for your detailed description! I appreciate it as I had questions about how to go from one light to 12 with new wiring. Your explanation makes sense.
Lol listening to you talk about hard ware and DIY's calms my stress levels 🤣🤣🤣. I'll even just play your videos in the background and learn little pieces as I catch them haha. Thank you for all your helpful information! 🥰 God Bless you sir!
(You have also helped me complete several projects! Love your channel!)
You are the absolute best teacher on UA-cam for this stuff. seriously. I enjoy all your videos. Funny, informative and simple. Some people are just great at teaching and you got that down! Thanks again !
Cheers, thanks for the support!
Drilling in reverse was one of the most useful tips I've ever heard, thank you very much!
You're welcome!
Indeed!
You have become a family member!!! We watch you with our morning coffee and whenever we need to learn the correct way to do our projects....We have watched others and my personal opinion is that your voice and teaching style keeps us focused...Thanks Suzanne and Dale
I learned more about this subject in just a few minutes than ever before. Thank you. And the reverse drilling, brilliant.
Revere drilling was something I learned from my brother when he was helping me mod our kitchen, he also showed me how to cut vinyl siding with a plywood blade installed backwards in my cordless saw, clean no chipping cuts every time.
Gotta say, this channel and these videos are exceptionally good.
My electrician put these exact lights into my bathroom and basement and I had to remove one to work on the shower ceiling. These lights hold on like they’re in cement, then suddenly they’re free of the drywall, and come down on your finger like a damn mouse trap, Christ those springs!
You explain your process better than anyone else I’ve seen on this platform. Super helpful!
Cheers, happy to help!
What a great demonstration. Full of tips that only pros (sometimes) have learned over lots of trial and error. Bob Villa eat your heart out.
I've been renovating my house over the last two years. When I started, I found the same lights on Amazon for $14 a piece in a 12-pack. I bought a pack, thinking I got such a great deal. Since then, I've bought a new pack every room or two that I've renovated. But I've also found cheaper and cheaper lights each time. The last pack I bought cost me $6.50 per light! And hilariously, they are all the exact same light from the exact same factory, like you said.
not bad! the actual cost to manufacture is under $1.00 I am sure
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I'm sure too. And at a manufacture rate of "8 billion every 5 minutes" that's quite a profit!
Nice job and great info all the way around. I was stuck on what type of lights to get for my kitchen counter area and the video answered all the questions I had about it. Then on top of everything you put in a link to the best lights for the money. Your professionalism and attention to detail is much appreciated.
Where can I buy these lites? Great presentation thanks Merry Christmas
Just found these same lights for my daughters remodel. Since I'm an old school carpenter, retired. I'm used to the old can recessed lights. wish these were around 15-20 yrs ago . love your vids. I'm in the middle of a full bathroom, kitchen, down to the bare bones renovation...picked up quit a few ideas from your channel...Keep them coming..
I’m not the type to sign up to websites and stuff but I did just to comment on this guy. This man is so Thorough, he speaks so clearly and explains everything so efficiently. Being a first time homeowner I’ve learned so much watching his videos. I’m glad I came across his videos on home repairs. Keep up the good work and thank you so much for all your help! He gets a 5 🌟star rating from me
he is amazing
When I do recessed add ons I like to put my drill in a cardboard box. Have a hole cut in for my arm to get in the box. Then When I drill all the dust collects in the box. I do this if I don’t have a shop vac to use. Helps on the mess
I drill a hole in an old clear plastic container. I then put the bit into the container, through the hole, then into the drill.
Get a cheap Tupperware or knock off plastic bowl make hole big enough for the shank that goes into your drill chuck and it will stay in the bowl or look up rac-a-teir dust bowl and you'll see what I'll trying to explain
@@cheryljason9617 great idea! Even less mess!
i cut a basketball in half and cut small hole for arbor. and all dust collects inside ball.
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Great idea on running the hole saw backwards! Why didnt I ever think of that! Great tip.
Cheers warren, not sure where or when I picked that one up but definitely worth sharing. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY does this work for plaster ceilings as well?
agreed!
Absolutely love this video. Im actually doing this in my mothers kitchen tomorrow. I took down the big ugly box with the florescent tubes so I can put in canless lights. Needed this video.
Thanks
Cheers frank, happy to be of some help!
Where do we find the best deal for the lights, I may need 24
Well Done! You talk fast, explain well, great tips and advice without blathering on and on. Most videos I up the speed just to get past all the irrelevant stuff. I love you.
You are amazing!!!! Never thought about drilling the hole in reverse. i did recessed lights 7 years ago as a project with my fiance - now wife. I wish i would have come across this video. I was lucky though snd didnt have too much problems. Did recessed lighting in every room. Glad its all done and will never have to do it again. Hardest part was running the wiring. I am a fan. Great channel!!!
Cheers Davey!
Thank you for the video. I will do my 1988 insulated and drywalled garage ceiling first for practice, then the 1958 bungalow here in Calgary.
Holy crap, I think this is one of the best, most approachable DIY videos I've seen. Easy to understand and lots of tips to make the process easier. Thanks for a great tutorial!
It’s like you read my mind, I just looked at these at Home Depot an hour ago haha. Your the best!
Google read your mind, not Jeff lol
This guy is the best. So good at explaining everything in a teaching and constructive fashion without a speck of patronizing B.S. Love every video.
021421/1439h. PST. Good day to you and Happy Valentine’s Day. Thank you very much for the procedure. Not many people would give away the ‘trade secrets’. This was a selfless gift to every one. Hats off to you, Sir.
Take care, be safe and Bless you. 73s...
OMG - doing the reverse cut is brilliant!
It has been a while since I watched one of your videos, I forgot how good they are. I’ll never miss one again.
I'll tell you....turn on your notifications!! Cheers buddy. Jeff
I don’t know how one guy has so much common sense. Maybe he received the share reserved for a lot of the folks in our area!!! 😂
This was the easy part of installing pot lights how about you show us how to run the wires especially through floor joists. I think that would be beneficial for everyone
We did a video on how to wire a bathroom and we did a pot light run a swell. Cheers! ua-cam.com/video/NfRuLlTp5s8/v-deo.html
I believe I saw that video that runs the wires
remove the knockouts (if it's engineered joist) or drill holes.
Agreed and the linked video is for pre construction. How do you do this after the drywall is already up and painted? Can you work a full size drill through one of the 4" holes for the can lights and then just drill a hole in the joist by feel? Or do you have to remove a larger section of drywall so you get to the joists with a drill.
maleitch you don’t need to put the entire drill is you need a flex drill bit that is used by most electronic installers for jumping studs
I like your common sense way of explaining thing. I also like that you don't use high energy tactics overwhelming the viewer with information like other channels do. I feel like other channels do this because they only know what they read off the manufacturers box while you actually know what you're talking about.
I like the connection fitting. Make your job easier n faster. Without a screwdriver. And saves over tightening. And connectors comes in 2 cables fitting 3 n 4 n 5. So much easier. Great content.
Thank you for the step by step explanation. Literally helped me do my kitchen renovation, everything was step by step and it was truly amazing. Thank you!
Way to go Chris. Love hearing these types of success stories!
Tip: When drilling for any holes not just in the ceiling, but also on walls, etc. Particularly in a functioning kitchen, room, etc. Get your wife/kid/neighbor/friend, whoever is at hand. Hold the vacuum cleaner long tube extended to near the hole. The vast majority of the dust will be collected on the spot. Saves a lot of after cleaning and general mess. ;-)
Redoing a master bath and was thinking of going this route, well now you sold me on it. Thanks for the great video.
Cheers Todd!
add a fake fireplace. Great ambiance. So, will need to add extra electric outlet with GFI in middle of wall. Wall fireplace is great. You can add atmosphere and heat to your bathroom. Everyone will be impressed. 3 feet clearance all directions.
I’ve used that trick, drilling in reverse, to get the cleanest result possible. I thought I was the only one. By far best channel to follow
Thank you for this! I installed these, myself 😊 in my Kitchen and now I want to do it in the bathroom and living room. Thanks to your suggestions, advice and know how, I easily and quickly installed these type of lights! Had to get an electrician friend to tell me how to wire it, but this was a great video for me.
Would highly recommend caulking the light, a lot of people experience dust infiltration due to pressure differentials between attic and room.
I had some painters who clear caulked an LED to the ceiling because there were no fasteners. 🤣
The homeowner was so disappointed.
That’s caused by improperly ventilated attics, the light isn’t the problem at all. Too much attic ventilation is a really bad thing and causes higher utility costs, dust and a musty mildewed attic.
Dude, you're amazing. You even answered the question I had right towards the end. (the amount of lights per switch) Thanks!
I work in packaging. Everything you said is 100% true.
but how to find the best seller to buy cheap as electrician don't recommend from cheap seller or from aliexpress or some one like that.
I was working in cookie factarory, same cookies in established brands "expensive" boxes and in diferend supermarket chains "cheep" plastic bags, you just switch bale of packaging material.
Same thing with paper towels. Store brands are the expensive ones, just different packaging.
This is very common with tools aswell, power and hand tools
Thank you thank you thank you.
I have been searching UA-cam far and wide for a video like this that actually shows how to wire with these clips
Cheaper and better variations coming from the SAME supplier sold with different branding is the most UNDERRATED tip in this entire channel! I think it deserves its own video! I wonder how many different common products in home improvement can be found cheaper with the same or higher quality from different retailers.
I know it definitely applies to most products in Amazon can be found in alibaba where you can see the Chinese supplier selling products customized with your own brand and color theme variations if you buy in bulk so if you see similar products on Amazon go with the cheapest one!
A long time ago I worked at a fish processing plant in Alaska. The salmon were put into cans and shipped to different companies around the world. Then those companies put their own wraps on those cans. I learned that you can pay more or less for canned salmon, but it's all the same. I assume it's still that way.
Was just talking about installing these in my kitchen yesterday! Perfect timing!
I put those things in every room now! Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I want to paint my ceiling and don't know how to detach them. Can you show how to detach the loaded spring from the ceiling?
Marie C at 8:10 he takes it out...
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY and
Jeff, you make such user-friendly videos and I'm here for it! Thank you.
Cheers Lauren, we appreciate that!
Thanks for posting video. Going to order some. Googled these and found for 9 bux. Great deal.
What did you search for? RENO-4-S9W-345KWH?
@@miken54tuning99 Yeah I found them for that price with that code. Ordered 12. Color change option is great! Product Pro was the company I got them from.
@@tumbleweed1337 I also found them there for $9.75. Thanks for the find.
Thank you for such a good and to the point video! I wish all of those pretend experts and diy folks would not make their videos on this subject because the have poor to misleading info. It’s getting harder to learn things from UA-cam anymore because everybody and their dog is making videos now just to make a buck
Went back to watch this video again as I knew Jeff stated the price he paid and boom, of course the price almost doubled since this video. Guess i'm not saving much afterall! Thanks for the video Jeff, if nothing else, great information and instruction and that's money in the bank!!!
Productpro .co 9.75 and a chance to win a ps5
@@ryanvalle8081 Thanks bud! Cheers!
Jeff thank you for being you! You make learning easy and fun! I have learned lots of things thanks for sharing and also caring! God Bless You ...Jesus Loves You!
My wife watches this guy and expects me to be a professional- she doesn’t understand that this guy is a mutant
If I need help with things to do around the house I first and for most see if this man has a video on it. Jeff you rock my friend!!👍
cutting that hole in reverse was the best advice I've ever heard for doing this sort of thing, thanks!
Jeff, do you have a video tutorial for installing pot lights as a renovision in a completed room where pot lights weren't originally planned? Specifically, accessing and adding to existing electrical to run new wiring, such as a process using an auger.
BTW, I've really learned and put into practice a ton of your teaching. Thanks so much!
I would love that vid as well! We are doing Reno’s and want to add pot lights to our vaulted ceilings before we sell. We also want to remove/cover painted popcorn in the house (ugh…what a job)
Holy moly is this great home improvement content.
Pro Tip: Cut more of the outer sheathing from the wire so that longer wires are exposed. It will be easier to work with the wiring connections than with the shorter lengths demonstrated here. Longer wires will easily tuck inside the box.
Man, I am feeling so much more confident - Jeff is the BEST
Great video and nice tips. Picked up the 12 pack from Lowes for the discounted price of $ 199.00. The wife then found these exact lights at another location for $ 10.00 ea. I was a little worried about the quality of the lights, but after seeing this video, I feel more confident we did the right thing by returning the Lowes package and purchasing these. Thanks
Where did you find them for 10 a piece
What is the name of the store? Thanks
I don't own a home or anywhere near needing to do any of this but holy shit i learned a lot and stayed the whole video!
Thanks so much for this video!
I’ve got a home built in the 50’s - built like an iron bunker - but no ceiling lights. Everything runs off the outlets.
I’ve been wanting to install cans but way too much work for what I want to do.
These pucks are just the thing!!
Awesome video!!
I like how you even mentioned “when” to do your lights. I just bought a 1983 train wreck of a house. Well-intentioned owners but they made bad design decisions after having it built and kinda lost their minds as they got older. They eventually passed and their house hit the market as an “as-is” at full price. Ugh. Anyway, every last detail needs to be fixed/updated. I mean not just the popcorn ceilings, base board being used as crown moulding, chair rail, base, and door trim.... just every single thing imaginable is ruined. Every door, every inch of the wall-papered and sloppily painted walls... 100% of everything :(
So I get to make this ole house new again and pray to get my money back in a couple years.
I was unsure of when to do the lights. After paint but before floors or what? I figured the order is de-popcorn/skim coat (or texture ceiling), skim and texture walls, crown and door/window trim, then floors (12 different... bad job flooring types in an 1800 sq foot home 🤢) and back up to the lights but I wasn’t sure. The glove idea is great too, thanks!
Go slow and take a deep breath and think of a process. You're on the right channel, DIY done smart will save a lot. Hired work that you can afford isn't always going to have the quality you'd want, and if you bought your forever home, or want it to be, you'll look at those walls, trim, paint, patches etc for quite a while. Start with areas that are invisible if you're beginning. As a renter, I fixed a lot of landlord or tenant or maintenance guy sloppy work. I first started mudding, trim, wall paint etc in the closet, literally.
Gosh...I was feeling overwhelmed by bad DYI stuff in my new home...I feel so much better now. 😁
Sounds like we just bought the same house. haha. Ours is 1980 and EVERYTHING needs to be redone. There are six different types/colors of light switches throughout the house, 8 different floors, hideous trim, the wrong types of mouldings used, 6 different types of door knobs, every possible metal finish for lighting and bathroom hardware. No ceiling lights in more than half the rooms. It's a mess. 2,600 sq feet needing to be redone.
I LOVE your videos! I've watched SO many.
Just removed a 70s light fixture in my kitchen... repaired the drywall... and installed 4 ultra-slim LED lights that I bought online for less than $10 each. AND they're the color adjustable kind. ;-)
Thanks!!
Going to try this also. Do you have a link to your purchase? Thanks
Just put in 4 of these, 3 over the vanity and 1 in the shower, holy cow, going from 2 incandescent bulbs to now 5 LED fixtures makes a crazy difference!
Perfect timing! I'm about to start the same project in my kitchen! Thank you!
I'm up two dollars... Cheers, Jeff
Me too, but in the living room. Making good use of the time at home due to the Corona virus outbreak.
Hey Jeff, can you run a video on how to determine the layout? How do you know how many pot lights to install in a room (e.g. kitchen)?
A rough rule I read somewhere and like to follow for 6 inch lights is the spacing between lights should be about half the distance from floor to ceiling. So, for an 8 foot ceiling, space lights about 4 feet apart, 9 foot ceilings 4.5 feet apart. I will usually keep that as the minimum spacing and go as far as 6 feet in between lights, any further and you will have dark spots and shadows. Also, keep in mind distance from fans and anything else that may create shadows.
@@OneHandyDude Thank you, that was super helpful!
Thanks Saagar!
That is true in the field but will in running next to a cabinet you want to stay at least three feet away from the wall so that the light will shine down on the counters and not the cabinets
@@john20585 I'm learning so much from you two. Thank you 😊
Looks great! How much does installing these affect any room soundproofing? I planned on installing these in a basement bedroom but I'm worried that the soundproofing idea would be compromised.
Let me know what you find out
Im in the same boat too
How would this affect soundproofing? They are 1/2" thick.
12:54 Just taking a moment to show that jag and what to note from the knock out is one of the million reasons why I subscribe and everyone loves Jeff and this channel. You're Ottawa gold my friend! You help balance out all the stress and nonsense of the industry and stress with renovating projects, increasing costs and wives and husbands that holler at us!
Superb video! Thank you for taking the time to explain all the small details of purchasing what will turn out to be a better product at a better value. Love the comment about wearing gloves when touching the ceiling or walls. Nothing worse than seeing the nasty prints a couple of weeks later. Thanks again...
Wow, I just put them in yesterday...Not hooked up yet. PERFECT TIMING! Much respect :)
If I could get a dollar for each time I hear this...cheers for good timing. Jeff
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I'm purchasing a new build with these already in but want smart lights. All the smart lights I see have a connector to a traditional lightbulb fixture, not to a junction box. Cut at the end and just run it into the box? Do most places just throw it up there so it can be accessed?
That was a great video! I just found your channel recently when looking to fix nail pops and you helped me fix those with ease. Your videos are excellent.
Would you be able to share the brand/retailer you purchased those lights from? Thanks!
I've done this installation several times before seeing this but I still got some great tips. Thanks for posting.
Great video I am a retired electrician after 40 years it amazes me how many licensed electricians destroy ceiling tiles and sheet rock ceilings because they run the drill in the forward position so great info on that ,i’m not a big fan of the push in connectors (Wagos)I never use them I wire nut everything but I understand it’s a very lite load and a tight spot so they are very convenient I’ll give you that but I still never use them had to replace too many that failed maybe the new ones are better I don’t know but they have very little surface contact with the wire which can create heat all right I’m done Whinnying great video 👍
In the beginning of the video, you said you would get into the different color variations and how to map them out. Is that coming in the next video or have you discussed that in a previous video? Thanks for a great tutorial.
Earl Stivers I would love a video on mapping them out as well.
Just a suggestion, leave a little more wire in the junction box so you can connect the wires to the wago’s without using your pliers, coming from an electrician from the states, love the gloves! Nothing worse than seeing a bunch of finger smudges all over the walls and ceilings!
Cheers Mike!
Thanks for the info, how do you figure out spacing the lights
I'm putting these into my basement now (well cans on an old drop ceiling that I'm salvaging). Everything I've read says in general take your ceiling height and divide it by 2. So if you have 8 foot ceilings, space them every four feet. 10 foot ceilings, every 5 feet, etc.
There's plenty of other things that come into play, such as the type of lighting you're going for (general, task, feature, etc), other lights you may add, windows, focal points, etc.
You can get really into it to where you don't want to learn another thing about lights (trust me 😃) but there's calculators out there to take the light angle, ceiling height, etc to give you the optimal spacing configuration.
This blog has some cool tools for figuring out how many lights you need and how to lay them out. I used his layout tool then put post-it notes on the ceiling in the recommended places to check how it looked. I'm close to buying the lights and busting out the tools. Hope this helps.
@@pabruat what blog? do you have a link?
That will work
@@pabruat What's the blog?
Thanks man for the vid. Im one of those guys that are afraid to drill a hole on the drywall even Im a trade person. Thanks for knowledge. Keep it up. Well earned subs!
Great job! I don't know why you got 1K who don't like your video. Thanks for you time and effort. I just love watching videos online and I found your video to be "Awesome" so Thank you! Have a great day and remember to be "COVID" safe brother.
Do these work in the soundproofed double 5/8" sheetrock ceiling?
Why would you install pot lights in a soundproofed ceiling? That's like insulating your house and then smash your windows in.
@@Candisa We build 5/8" drywall boxes around the potlights for fire separation and soundproofing. It's extra work but required by code especially, in multi-unit residential.
find some old basketball and cut it in half along the seam , you will get two pieces that looks like a bowl , Then drill a hole into the center of one half of the ball and insert your hole saw bit and it will catch drywall debris..you get the idea...good luck
thank you for that usefull information Jeff... just needed this for my house!
Glad to hear Dave. Let me know if you need extra help. You know how to contact me :) Cheers, Jeff
This is the guy that taught me to wallpaper. This channel is really helpful and well done. Thank you.
Best person for DIY around the house, hands down!
Very good video. Pro-tip though...do not strip the outer casing of the wire bundle with a snap-blade. This is slow, can cause cuts to hands and the wires inside. Simply take lineman's pliers, grab the bare ground wire at the tip and pull away from the other wires. An instantly split outer casing that can be snipped off with the wire cutter/stripper.
I love that you're not afraid to get your uniform shirt dirty.
This guy irritates me because I've been renovating homes since 1989 and this dude knows more than me.
I’ve been using these lights for a few years - BEST EVA easy install💡💡💡
This guy has renovated half my house for free. I thank you sir.
I really don't think he's done what you said. More likes he's helped you to learn a new skill and encourage you brain to learn you can do it.
For that you thank Jeff
Thank you for the Amazon link for these lights. Purchased some yesterday
Where did you get the link? I’m having a very hard time finding the lights he’s using. Please reply with link. Thank you!
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@@jonathanredmon3122 your link shows it is an item that is not shipped in Canada. is there a Canadian supply link?
Many brands of those remodel style lights sell those low voltage extension cables up to 20 feet, in case you want to install the drivers somewhere else.
Good to know! Thanks!
Luke H use 8-3 Romex
@@dallas5374 I'm referring to the low voltage cable that runs from the transformer to the light, not the line voltage to the transformer.
He mentioned that the transformer to light cable is short, and I wanted people to know that is not the case for all remodel style LED lights. Sometimes it's not possible to put the transformer near the light, and with 20 ft of cable you can get really creative by putting it on a wall or in a different room where there's Romex, and running the low voltage cable to the light.
I installed pot lights in my basement. Hopefully the cops don’t find the plants. lol
In Canada it’s ok
Yeah same. I put them on a pice of ply wood. Screw any where.
Yup Canada would be fine with that now
🤣🤣🤣😂🤣
Pot Lights... I had Black Lights in HS.
I watched 2 other video's before I got to yours. I didn't have to watch any more after watching this one. Thank man.
Everything I need to know, and nothing else.
Bravo!!
Absolutely perfect.