I've been thinking a lot about this recently and Cranston really hit the nail on the head on this point. There's so much media out there that we don't have to settle for something that isn't quality or stimulating in some way because we can easily find something more relevant to our likes and curiosities and thus more entertaining.
Cranston is a Genius. It’s awesome to see people you grew up watching turn out to be the best, and while I don’t know Bryan personally, he seems like exactly the person you would thing he’d be.
Yes. But sometimes I do want something "lesser" I can put on that I don't have to pay as much attention to while I'm doing something else. So there is still room for that in my life at least.
"Driving music and then you'd think something exciting is gonna happen...and then it doesn't" Best description of the 80s I've ever heard 😂 what a time to be alive ❤
Hawaii 5-0. A theme that would make you leap over the back of the couch in anticipation, followed by a show that would make you take a nap on that couch.
Yeah, that theme song is forever stuck in my head and I will always be able to sing it aloud at will. The same memory recall does not apply to the show.
The annoying thing about older TV was that what Conan said wasn't true. There were episodes where a character broke out of their stereotype and showed growth.. and then next week they were right back to their stereotype and completely forgot the lessons they learned in the last episode. At the beginning of every episode, everyone reverted to exactly who they were in the premier.
The only older shows I remember watching as a kid was I dream of Jeannie and bewitched. Your comment certainly holds true for those two shows at least!
Seinfeld did this intentionally. They didn’t want any character devlopement. There is an episode where Elaine and Jerry get back together and then the next episode it’s like it never happened… and they had decided that it would be too altering to the characters.
7:15 Turns out Kathy Shower and Erik Astrada were married for 3 months in 1982, a couple of months before the episode aired, so they probably met during filming.
@@MiguelJimenez-uc3yz I stumbled upon this when looking for both actors. We didn't get the show here in Europe, so I was curious. It definitely makes this more interesting!
You misunderstand. All writers are constantly writing scenes of people in thier underwear, Bryan is just one of the few actors of a certain grade who still agree to do those scenes.
Not really, quality over quantity. If you’re everywhere nobody is looking forward to seeing you. That’s why people don’t like the rock in movies because we’ve seen it 100 times
@GritsAndEggsPod I think that's more due to the fact that the Rock can't really act beyond what he's done so far. Cranston doesn't have this problem. I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find two of Cranston's characters that are as similar to each other as a lot of Rock's characters.
Stand alone episodes are cool option that still needs to exist. everything being so serialized makes these huge commitments to these giant 10 hour long movies that end up being canceled after season 1. The fact is that not every show has Breaking Bad level of premise so they stretch arcs out far to long with even longer gaps in between seasons. Condensing down simple plots into a single hour works well for higher paced productions. things are so crunched now that it takes years to spit out 8 episodes and who knows if you will even get a chance to finish properly.
yeah but sadly that doesnt sell well nowadays, not at least in older audiences, all has to be morally grey bcs its more "mature", i dont mean that people are angels, but damn not everyone is borderline sociopath in how far they pursue their goals, its sad that some people thinks kids shows are dumb bcs "They are a flawed loving family, in reality you dont trust your own brother this is dumb", its really hard to find the balance between having complex characters and being kinda moral or having kinda common values, as a GenZ i have seen how there is even worship to villains now more than heroes, Patrick Bateman, Walter White, The Joker, etc. people say fiction is fiction but some people dont make the distinction, A movie with simple characters can sell really well, like Puss in Boots that was a succes, i think eventually we will go full circle and multi season series will be so exploited that people will return to simple things like Phineas and Ferb or go even more complex bcs you have to step up to new audiences.
There are always the front runners of a trend that set the stage for what follows. Breaking Bad wasn’t the first, but it was one of the first to do it exceedingly well AND connect into the culture on a deep level. We’re still early in this era of tv shows, but I can see it getting old fast because so many shows are either not good or instantly cancelled. I just want good stuff, I don’t care what form they take, and there are still good shows being made.
Very good and true conversation. I’m 76 and grew up on that “formula” tv, (and left it behind). Even feature films have to spin the story in about 90 minutes, ok to a point, but along came HBO and say Deadwood, then the magnificent Breaking Bad, that is where the quality viewing really started. A minor incident in say episode 3 may turn up consequences in episode 6 in the next series, those are the plot challenges I really appreciate , it gives the shows so much more depth than the old tv or even today’s Hollywood theatre films. To me it’s all about $ risk, so much money to make a big film , Oh , we can’t afford to take any real risks, but these new tv series seem quite willing and as a result have come up with some absolute gems.
It took 50 years but people finally realized TV could do literary storytelling better than movies. A lot of classic novels were originally serialized in weekly publications in the 19th century than later all the chapters were published in a book.
I grew up watching CHiPs, and loved it. Looking back, I know I wouldn’t now. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley, so my family would drive on the 118 and 210 freeway in San Fernando, where they filmed most of the scenes, every day. I also loved that as a kid.
MGM owns the rights and they'd certainly charge a licensing fee to use clips. Not that Conan couldn't afford it, but they probably don't want to set a precedent that they'll include clips of any show mentioned by the guests or Conan, else the show would be losing money. Those licenses aren't cheap.
Well, this is an excerpt of Conan's podcast, so the listeners wouldn't be able to see a clip. Of course, they could still add it to the video, but I guess they either don't bother or they aren't willing to pay the licensing fee.
@@stereokuuji Yep. He voiced "Snizzard" and one of the lines is "Tonsils snakes, ATTACK THEM!" you can find clips of it here on UA-cam. It's pretty hilarious.
Are we though? I feel like the large corporations are still making most of their money on selling us the same serviceable not good-not bad content, that we have been consuming for 10-12 years now. Call me pessimistic but I honestly think that Gen Z (my own generation) have tacitly accepted to a lower standard of the movies and TV we watch
I also grew up with only 3 networks. And on Sundays one was all in Spanish. Ask kids we would would run inside when it was time for Dark Shadows. It was so bad but we were into it. Even the boys liked it. lol I hate so much now a days in entertainment broadcast. So many shows are are so dark and violent. I have now just begged for some Gunsmoke or Carol Burnett. Give me a good old cowboy movie any day. I want something smart like Good Wives. Or quirky like that new White Lotus.
A good movie is different from the "current" big hit. Most Gen Z audience are afraid to go against the trend. If the trend is saying that M3gan is a good movie, they'll just agree. And there really isn't any other good movies out right now so M3gan is the only choice for a good date movie or just watch with friends. I'm not discrediting M3gan in any way, I enjoyed it as well, for what it is.
I always talk about this, we've evolved in how we consume content. Kids know from an early age know that the heroes always save the day. The crazy amount of content available has always been apart of our lives so we become desensitized quicker and want something that hits different.
[unrelated to this particular video] Conan, I imagine you've heard occasionally that you should run for president. One reason I think you would (seriously) make a good president is your diplomatic and unifying skill. Being all over the world, able to communicate gracefully and humorously with officials from other cultures, is a rarity in the modern age. You've proven able to successfully run the "Conan Corporation," and you seem to be a peacemaker at heart; you want people to get along; and humor is your tool... Maybe someday I'll run, but you will be my example of the perfect diplomat and comedian.
I love how old people here can't admit that Gen Z does have better taste in media. There's so much good content out there, and if all you see is crap, the problem is you.
As someone who's late millennial/early Gen Z age, I honestly have no idea what people my age want with entertainment. 90% of everything coming out these days is either some regurgitated retelling of a classic story that has nothing to do with the original source, or it's the next superhero movie that's been beaten to death for years now. My only demand is that the shows and movies feature interesting, original stories with a cast of actors/actresses who are passionate enough to nail the roles. Seems like every decent movie/show these days flies under the radar, while the crap nobody cares about makes all the headlines. It's only a matter of time before the current trend collapses.
Also, not only nowadays there are more entertainment options (i.e. quantity in the movies section), there are also new entertainment experiences which didn't exist before. Social media, producing content (which is entertaining by itself), hyperrealistic videogames in this world or other universes, haptics, VR, AR, and the list goes on. A person who has had all these experiences immediately knows that they are spending time doing 'x' while they could be doing 'y', 'z', 'r,', 'q', etc. I think the biggest accomplishment is to go mainstream, because it usually means its something universally liked, regardless of its form: Breaking Bad as a dark series, Malcolm as a comedy, Conan podcast, etc!.
When something is mainstream popular, and then certain elements get a lot of attention for being special even though I am personally quite used to them, it makes me realize that common mainstream media does not explore what you're discussing enough. My prime example is Thanos. People were simply not used to a villain having motivations, bordering on antivillain.
I used to agree with these views on television and movies, that it should aspire, go deep, break ground and raise the bar. But now I feel like entertainment is entertainment. Be it high brow or predictable schmaltz. If you find it entertaining then it's all good. There's room enough for award winning fare as well as ridiculous cop series that make no sense. If there is an audience that finds it enjoyable then there's a place for it.
I just cannot abide the stupidity of his son in the first season of Your Honor... I just can't. It's as though they've written the character so badly that he is barely human!
I’m curious why so many feel that way. All kids of that age are morons. At least I was as well as those around me. If I was in that position at 17 years old, I would’ve fucked that situation up beyond what would be acceptable on TV.
I don't think that's Gen Z. Gen X and Millennials wanted the music and films and tv to have more to say. Gen Z just has social media which makes it seem they want it. When I was a teenager we had message boards. The last three generations all want elevated entertainment
What is elevated entertainment? Many Zoomers grew up on the MCU and they think those are great movies. Many of them can't put the phone down to watch adult movies like The Godfather or Deerhunter.
Counterpoint: Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad are popular amongst zoomers, shows that are the opposite of instant gratification. Also conveniently forgetting that every era had their fair share of shitty media people loved from the several -xploitation movies to trashy cliché rom-coms. And for every Pink Floyd and Nirvana we got, we get dozens of Jefferson Airplanes and other disposable music acts people listened to. Just like how for zoomers, they get dozens of Gunna's and Imagine Dragon's for every Kendrick Lamar or Kanye West (before he went off his rocker)
Yeah. He has an incredible, deep, resonant voice that adds drama to the scenes that need it and is hilarious to hear stretched to a high pitch in comedy.
They want more from their entertainment but will watch 10 hour's streams of women sleeping watching gamers play games watching people sitting in their led light coverd rooms asking for donations sure as hell dont seem like they need alot to be entertained tho 😂
I completely disagree with that statement, I think its just the same, but its happening in a time where, there are a lot of changes, and they occur so fast, that It's hard to catch up, and the thing about Gen Z liking more Quality over quantity, it's kind of a fallacy, because there are so much reboots, and remakes, and reimaging of movies and or TV series, that has become absurd, Disney being the example on this matters.
OMG! I remember the Playboy pinup of Kathy Shower,...I must have been in high school. Playboy magazine was such a big deal back then, for horny teenage boys. The magazines were under lock and key, at so called drug stores. You had to prove your were old enough to be able to buy them. I recall going with a buddy to "the bad part of our town",....a low rent neighborhood, where specific "men's books stores" and strip joints were. A grumpy store clerk would shout out to the patrons, reminding them it "wasn't a damn Library", and to quit pawing the merchandise, ( and drooling on the photo arrays), pay yo' money and git!....lol
If they won't take the same old dish, then why does everyone?? There literally isn't any show or movie out there that didn't copy off something else. It literally is the same old dish, but with a different name. There is absolutely no such thing as originality anymore.
@@BishopWalters12 that is such a bad take, there have been more shows and movies made in the last decade than in the last two and by no means have you seen all of them
@@MegaPaco04 I can't help it if the truth upsets you, what stats are you going by to say more shows and movies get created now compared to the 90s for example?
But we also have the internet and have access to every piece of film or television ever made. I hate how older generations think we (gen z) are shallow in our entertainment consumption when many of us have good taste in film and TV and are willing to learn if we dont know enough.
@@BishopWalters12 I mean, the same was true for older generations too. There are young people that seek out art films, classics, etc. from every generation. In the 20th century, boomer, gen X, etc. all just vegetated watching TV or other mindless pass-times, just like millenials gen z just watch youtube video and tune out
@@BishopWalters12 many of us are already in our early 20s or reaching that age. Also are you gen z in making that conclusion sir 🤔? I notice older generations call gen z zoomers, we ourselves don't really use that term to describe ourselves.
If anyone wants proof that younger people demand more from their movies/shows, just look at the ridiculous number of video essays that pop up on UA-cam whenever something new comes out. We’re the ones watching that stuff. I personally love to binge reactions/discussions/reviews on UA-cam after finishing a show I really like because people will often have fun pieces of trivia that further extend the show and insights that I missed on my first watch.
Personally, I want movies to be created from the heart as an expression, to have amazing character arcs about characters we can identify and love and hate and think about and reflect on, not media that puts ideology first to try and not be cancelled. A gen z member
this is definitely not what bryan and conan were talking about when they brought up gen z demanding more in their media take ur damn politics out of here bud, this is a comedy podcast
Exactly, this is the generation that will riot at college just because they don't like a speaker or get a teacher fired for not using whatever made up pronoun is the trend of the month.
If only bryan knows the gen z kids on reddit regularly post how much they hate walter white because he's the exact opposite of their superhero characters 😂
I've been thinking a lot about this recently and Cranston really hit the nail on the head on this point. There's so much media out there that we don't have to settle for something that isn't quality or stimulating in some way because we can easily find something more relevant to our likes and curiosities and thus more entertaining.
Cranston is a Genius. It’s awesome to see people you grew up watching turn out to be the best, and while I don’t know Bryan personally, he seems like exactly the person you would thing he’d be.
Yet everyone watches Marvel movies. Somehow doesn't quite make sense...
Marvel, Star Wars, ... Star Wars, ... some dirty anime, Marvel.
Just a plethora of quality, stimulating opshuns.
Yes. But sometimes I do want something "lesser" I can put on that I don't have to pay as much attention to while I'm doing something else. So there is still room for that in my life at least.
But isn't it a point to overcome the previous achievements? To surpass our teachers; a progress
"Driving music and then you'd think something exciting is gonna happen...and then it doesn't"
Best description of the 80s I've ever heard 😂 what a time to be alive ❤
I personally will never tire of Conan ranting about CHiPS.
after 5 time a day... you will.
once was enough
There's always room for more CHiPs!
As opposed to collectively never tire of Conan ranting about CHiPS?
8 year old me loved CHiPS, it was part of my afternoon. CHiPS, Bonanza, Riptide, The Fall Guy, MacGyver, A-Team, Knight Rider.
Bryan's episode of CHiPs is called "Return to Death's Door" if anyone is interested. Season 6 episode 9.
nice
You're the best! Thank you!!
Kathy Shower. I remember her, fondly. Oh Kathy.
Hawaii 5-0. A theme that would make you leap over the back of the couch in anticipation, followed by a show that would make you take a nap on that couch.
Yeah, that theme song is forever stuck in my head and I will always be able to sing it aloud at will. The same memory recall does not apply to the show.
The annoying thing about older TV was that what Conan said wasn't true. There were episodes where a character broke out of their stereotype and showed growth.. and then next week they were right back to their stereotype and completely forgot the lessons they learned in the last episode. At the beginning of every episode, everyone reverted to exactly who they were in the premier.
The only older shows I remember watching as a kid was I dream of Jeannie and bewitched. Your comment certainly holds true for those two shows at least!
Still predicable.
It's the reset button model that Conan was talking about. No matter how much "growth" a character shows, it's completely wiped away by the next week.
Seinfeld did this intentionally. They didn’t want any character devlopement. There is an episode where Elaine and Jerry get back together and then the next episode it’s like it never happened… and they had decided that it would be too altering to the characters.
For shows meant for children perhaps, but that’s obviously not what was referred to.
Conan saying copper I immediately thought: aaah, wire
7:15 Turns out Kathy Shower and Erik Astrada were married for 3 months in 1982, a couple of months before the episode aired, so they probably met during filming.
Good work!
Incredible... bet Cranston doesn't even know that
@@MiguelJimenez-uc3yz I stumbled upon this when looking for both actors. We didn't get the show here in Europe, so I was curious.
It definitely makes this more interesting!
Cranston is one of my favorite actors but can you ask him if he requires a scene in every show, episode, etc, in his underwear?
You misunderstand. All writers are constantly writing scenes of people in thier underwear, Bryan is just one of the few actors of a certain grade who still agree to do those scenes.
@@patreekotime4578 Because he liked it
the studio demands it. it's the only thing that still sells tickets. cranston belly.
@@melodica5407 he was good at it
We require Byran Cranston titties
He’s so right about watching a show because the reception was good. Funny stuff
Release the full interview with video! C’mon Team Coco!
I hope Bryan Cranston will do even more TV shows and movies. Gotta strike while the iron is hot.
Not really, quality over quantity. If you’re everywhere nobody is looking forward to seeing you. That’s why people don’t like the rock in movies because we’ve seen it 100 times
He said he’s going to retire in 3 years
@@kayzeaza He confirmed he's not going to
@GritsAndEggsPod I think that's more due to the fact that the Rock can't really act beyond what he's done so far. Cranston doesn't have this problem. I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find two of Cranston's characters that are as similar to each other as a lot of Rock's characters.
Stand alone episodes are cool option that still needs to exist. everything being so serialized makes these huge commitments to these giant 10 hour long movies that end up being canceled after season 1.
The fact is that not every show has Breaking Bad level of premise so they stretch arcs out far to long with even longer gaps in between seasons. Condensing down simple plots into a single hour works well for higher paced productions. things are so crunched now that it takes years to spit out 8 episodes and who knows if you will even get a chance to finish properly.
yeah but sadly that doesnt sell well nowadays, not at least in older audiences, all has to be morally grey bcs its more "mature", i dont mean that people are angels, but damn not everyone is borderline sociopath in how far they pursue their goals, its sad that some people thinks kids shows are dumb bcs "They are a flawed loving family, in reality you dont trust your own brother this is dumb", its really hard to find the balance between having complex characters and being kinda moral or having kinda common values, as a GenZ i have seen how there is even worship to villains now more than heroes, Patrick Bateman, Walter White, The Joker, etc. people say fiction is fiction but some people dont make the distinction, A movie with simple characters can sell really well, like Puss in Boots that was a succes, i think eventually we will go full circle and multi season series will be so exploited that people will return to simple things like Phineas and Ferb or go even more complex bcs you have to step up to new audiences.
There are always the front runners of a trend that set the stage for what follows. Breaking Bad wasn’t the first, but it was one of the first to do it exceedingly well AND connect into the culture on a deep level. We’re still early in this era of tv shows, but I can see it getting old fast because so many shows are either not good or instantly cancelled.
I just want good stuff, I don’t care what form they take, and there are still good shows being made.
I have to agree, here...
Very good and true conversation. I’m 76 and grew up on that “formula” tv, (and left it behind). Even feature films have to spin the story in about 90 minutes, ok to a point, but along came HBO and say Deadwood, then the magnificent Breaking Bad, that is where the quality viewing really started. A minor incident in say episode 3 may turn up consequences in episode 6 in the next series, those are the plot challenges I really appreciate , it gives the shows so much more depth than the old tv or even today’s Hollywood theatre films. To me it’s all about $ risk, so much money to make a big film , Oh , we can’t afford to take any real risks, but these new tv series seem quite willing and as a result have come up with some absolute gems.
It took 50 years but people finally realized TV could do literary storytelling better than movies. A lot of classic novels were originally serialized in weekly publications in the 19th century than later all the chapters were published in a book.
I grew up watching CHiPs, and loved it. Looking back, I know I wouldn’t now.
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley, so my family would drive on the 118 and 210 freeway in San Fernando, where they filmed most of the scenes, every day. I also loved that as a kid.
Maybe because of copyright issues…but they should have inserted a clip of his Chips episode 😂😂
MGM owns the rights and they'd certainly charge a licensing fee to use clips. Not that Conan couldn't afford it, but they probably don't want to set a precedent that they'll include clips of any show mentioned by the guests or Conan, else the show would be losing money. Those licenses aren't cheap.
Well, this is an excerpt of Conan's podcast, so the listeners wouldn't be able to see a clip. Of course, they could still add it to the video, but I guess they either don't bother or they aren't willing to pay the licensing fee.
Conan is the best. I genuinely love this dude.
I saw the first episode yesterday and it was excellent. Very good series.
Aaaaaand Stayin' Alive will be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
You can tell by the way I use my walk
I'm a woman's man, no time to talk
Music loud and women warm, I've been kicked around
Since I was born
Nodding my head to this in agreement while I click through hours of memes about a cat going guh
If Conan is amazed that Bryan Cranston did Chips, just wait until he finds out about the Bulgarian Treasure Planet dub he was in.
Or the time he played a giant lizard in the original Power Rangers!
@@Drakith90 WHAT 😳
NO WAY
@@stereokuuji Yep. He voiced "Snizzard" and one of the lines is "Tonsils snakes, ATTACK THEM!" you can find clips of it here on UA-cam. It's pretty hilarious.
@@Drakith90 Bryan Cranston has been a part of my entire life and I didn't even know it 😂
What? Can you elaborate?
CHiPs Season 6 Episode 9: Return to Death's Door
I’m hopeful for Gen Z bc i think we’re starting realize the value of quality over quantity, which, especially when in comes to art, is truly beautiful
Are we though? I feel like the large corporations are still making most of their money on selling us the same serviceable not good-not bad content, that we have been consuming for 10-12 years now.
Call me pessimistic but I honestly think that Gen Z (my own generation) have tacitly accepted to a lower standard of the movies and TV we watch
Tik tok would like a word with you. That's the opposite. It's literally quantity over quality. Gen z is being fed this format
Gen-z are having the brains milked by tiktok, youtube and instagram
@@teamspeak9374 yes but there will also be people like that , our gen Z isn't good on every level but we are working on it
LOL, Gen Z are the safe space kids that watch MCU.
I also grew up with only 3 networks. And on Sundays one was all in Spanish. Ask kids we would would run inside when it was time for Dark Shadows. It was so bad but we were into it. Even the boys liked it. lol I hate so much now a days in entertainment broadcast. So many shows are are so dark and violent. I have now just begged for some Gunsmoke or Carol Burnett. Give me a good old cowboy movie any day. I want something smart like Good Wives. Or quirky like that new White Lotus.
Is this entire episode accessible anywhere?
I really like Bryan's shirt
It reminds me of some WW shirts
Personally, I just want to watch GOOD movies, not horrible movies.
- From a member of Gen Z.
And yet the biggest movie at the box office this week? “M3gan.”
Duh..
Define "good" vs. "horrible".
@@samfilmkidhaven’t seen it but quick google says most people enjoyed it. so what’s your point?
guys what kinda movie should we make?.. Make a good one. alright got it
A good movie is different from the "current" big hit.
Most Gen Z audience are afraid to go against the trend. If the trend is saying that M3gan is a good movie, they'll just agree.
And there really isn't any other good movies out right now so M3gan is the only choice for a good date movie or just watch with friends.
I'm not discrediting M3gan in any way, I enjoyed it as well, for what it is.
I hope they talk about his episode on X-Files. He was so good !
His characters name was Billy Joe. 😂
Damn, I have been studying Metallurgy. Now I can finally get into comedy.
I love it when they echo "the biz" in hushed tones
conan u need to post the full episodes in video form :(
“Guy on hang glider.” 😂
queue Moltar on Space Ghost.. "mmh , chips"
very good episode😂😂😂😂
I always talk about this, we've evolved in how we consume content. Kids know from an early age know that the heroes always save the day. The crazy amount of content available has always been apart of our lives so we become desensitized quicker and want something that hits different.
"Kids know from an early age know that the heroes always save the day."
Yeah, no one before GenZedong knew about this.
LOL, Gen-Z are living off the past, they've no original movies, shows, fashion or music.
[unrelated to this particular video]
Conan, I imagine you've heard occasionally that you should run for president. One reason I think you would (seriously) make a good president is your diplomatic and unifying skill. Being all over the world, able to communicate gracefully and humorously with officials from other cultures, is a rarity in the modern age. You've proven able to successfully run the "Conan Corporation," and you seem to be a peacemaker at heart; you want people to get along; and humor is your tool... Maybe someday I'll run, but you will be my example of the perfect diplomat and comedian.
He needs to do it for his kids & grandkids, because the future is bleak for all.
Me being forced to watch Caillou, Matlock, baseball, infomercials and golf
Ah... someone mentioned Matlock... I need to go make a hotdog now.
TV now just became more like movies from 1970s.
It’s the anti- hero concept that the sopranos led the way with
Cranston pops up in all kinds of old shows. Murder, She Wrote is a favorite of mine - he dies in five minutes, I think! Lol
I love how old people here can't admit that Gen Z does have better taste in media. There's so much good content out there, and if all you see is crap, the problem is you.
The population got dumber and what you’re explaining is a repercussion of Dunning-Kruger effect.
Conan is an expert in metalphors
A sign of a great comedian.
and i love your videos
"and I'm like, no bill."
As someone who's late millennial/early Gen Z age, I honestly have no idea what people my age want with entertainment. 90% of everything coming out these days is either some regurgitated retelling of a classic story that has nothing to do with the original source, or it's the next superhero movie that's been beaten to death for years now. My only demand is that the shows and movies feature interesting, original stories with a cast of actors/actresses who are passionate enough to nail the roles. Seems like every decent movie/show these days flies under the radar, while the crap nobody cares about makes all the headlines. It's only a matter of time before the current trend collapses.
Also, not only nowadays there are more entertainment options (i.e. quantity in the movies section), there are also new entertainment experiences which didn't exist before. Social media, producing content (which is entertaining by itself), hyperrealistic videogames in this world or other universes, haptics, VR, AR, and the list goes on. A person who has had all these experiences immediately knows that they are spending time doing 'x' while they could be doing 'y', 'z', 'r,', 'q', etc. I think the biggest accomplishment is to go mainstream, because it usually means its something universally liked, regardless of its form: Breaking Bad as a dark series, Malcolm as a comedy, Conan podcast, etc!.
Metal is comedy gold.
TV will never be the same as it used to. Movies too. It's all just sequels and superhero comics.
Maybe it's just getting old, but.. it's harder to get excited to see a new movie in the theaters like it used to
I'm like, "No Bill."
When something is mainstream popular, and then certain elements get a lot of attention for being special even though I am personally quite used to them, it makes me realize that common mainstream media does not explore what you're discussing enough.
My prime example is Thanos. People were simply not used to a villain having motivations, bordering on antivillain.
Geez Cones, love you dearly but you gotta let Bryan spin the yarn once in a while.
6:30 Kathy Shower is the name.
yeah, her wikipedia page isn't too flattering.
I used to agree with these views on television and movies, that it should aspire, go deep, break ground and raise the bar. But now I feel like entertainment is entertainment. Be it high brow or predictable schmaltz. If you find it entertaining then it's all good. There's room enough for award winning fare as well as ridiculous cop series that make no sense. If there is an audience that finds it enjoyable then there's a place for it.
I just cannot abide the stupidity of his son in the first season of Your Honor... I just can't. It's as though they've written the character so badly that he is barely human!
I’m curious why so many feel that way. All kids of that age are morons. At least I was as well as those around me. If I was in that position at 17 years old, I would’ve fucked that situation up beyond what would be acceptable on TV.
That show simply isn't good, even with some great actors
@@definitelynosebreather I have to agree.
Real shame since the actors are essentially wasted on shitty writing.
Agree
I love Bryan, wanted to love the show, just bad writing.
Modern TV/film is just the mirror opposite of Old TV. It's predictable.
I don't think that's Gen Z. Gen X and Millennials wanted the music and films and tv to have more to say. Gen Z just has social media which makes it seem they want it. When I was a teenager we had message boards. The last three generations all want elevated entertainment
What is elevated entertainment? Many Zoomers grew up on the MCU and they think those are great movies. Many of them can't put the phone down to watch adult movies like The Godfather or Deerhunter.
@@BishopWalters12 clearly you have no idea what you're talking about because marvel is most popular with millennials lmao
@@mackenzie1845 That's incorrect, buttercup
Counterpoint: Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad are popular amongst zoomers, shows that are the opposite of instant gratification.
Also conveniently forgetting that every era had their fair share of shitty media people loved from the several -xploitation movies to trashy cliché rom-coms. And for every Pink Floyd and Nirvana we got, we get dozens of Jefferson Airplanes and other disposable music acts people listened to. Just like how for zoomers, they get dozens of Gunna's and Imagine Dragon's for every Kendrick Lamar or Kanye West (before he went off his rocker)
I never noticed Cranston had such a great voice that’s crazy to type out
Yeah. He has an incredible, deep, resonant voice that adds drama to the scenes that need it and is hilarious to hear stretched to a high pitch in comedy.
@@haggler Conan comment section always goated, I always learn from well informed ones like yours!
@@meegs699 I wouldn’t say well-informed, I’ve just personally witnessed how his voice adds to the roles he plays.
@@haggler too modest! Insight is insight
They want more from their entertainment but will watch 10 hour's streams of women sleeping watching gamers play games watching people sitting in their led light coverd rooms asking for donations sure as hell dont seem like they need alot to be entertained tho 😂
I completely disagree with that statement, I think its just the same, but its happening in a time where, there are a lot of changes, and they occur so fast, that It's hard to catch up, and the thing about Gen Z liking more Quality over quantity, it's kind of a fallacy, because there are so much reboots, and remakes, and reimaging of movies and or TV series, that has become absurd, Disney being the example on this matters.
No. All the top streaming shows are older network or cable series. People just want good entertainment, that's all.
Hu guys I am 90s kid live conan
A superb podcast.
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Hey, why is there no Turkish in automatic translation?
They were going over lines... Orally
Renoirs On The Highway, an exhibition
"Verdigris"? "Pablum"? This guy reads.
Your honor is decent YET it’s no BB (with the exception that BC plays (a poor man’s) WW in this series). He def plays WW
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OMG! I remember the Playboy pinup of Kathy Shower,...I must have been in high school. Playboy magazine was such a big deal back then, for horny teenage boys. The magazines were under lock and key, at so called drug stores. You had to prove your were old enough to be able to buy them. I recall going with a buddy to "the bad part of our town",....a low rent neighborhood, where specific "men's books stores" and strip joints were. A grumpy store clerk would shout out to the patrons, reminding them it "wasn't a damn Library", and to quit pawing the merchandise, ( and drooling on the photo arrays), pay yo' money and git!....lol
If they won't take the same old dish, then why does everyone?? There literally isn't any show or movie out there that didn't copy off something else. It literally is the same old dish, but with a different name. There is absolutely no such thing as originality anymore.
This comment definitely isn't original
They're out there but I will agree that the 2010's and 2020's so far are less creative compared to previous decades.
@@BishopWalters12 that is such a bad take, there have been more shows and movies made in the last decade than in the last two and by no means have you seen all of them
@@MegaPaco04 I can't help it if the truth upsets you, what stats are you going by to say more shows and movies get created now compared to the 90s for example?
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Well, Gen Z also watch 50 identical Marvel movies every year...
-Signed a member of Milleniel/Gen Z
But we also have the internet and have access to every piece of film or television ever made. I hate how older generations think we (gen z) are shallow in our entertainment consumption when many of us have good taste in film and TV and are willing to learn if we dont know enough.
@@known_film4081 Most Zoomers don't want to watch movies made for adults or read books for adults.
@@BishopWalters12 I mean, the same was true for older generations too. There are young people that seek out art films, classics, etc. from every generation. In the 20th century, boomer, gen X, etc. all just vegetated watching TV or other mindless pass-times, just like millenials gen z just watch youtube video and tune out
@@supwititproductionz3738 Nope, Gen-Z are the most brain dead and useless generation.
@@BishopWalters12 many of us are already in our early 20s or reaching that age. Also are you gen z in making that conclusion sir 🤔? I notice older generations call gen z zoomers, we ourselves don't really use that term to describe ourselves.
How many people youtube'd Bryan Cranston in CHiPS after this?
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Thanks for spoilers Conan.
Don't knock those great shows of the past...better than a lot of the junk today
I agree, most of the s@@@ today will be forgotten in 10 years.
If anyone wants proof that younger people demand more from their movies/shows, just look at the ridiculous number of video essays that pop up on UA-cam whenever something new comes out. We’re the ones watching that stuff. I personally love to binge reactions/discussions/reviews on UA-cam after finishing a show I really like because people will often have fun pieces of trivia that further extend the show and insights that I missed on my first watch.
"Gen Z demands".. Waaahhhh.
No, they just want good writers.
Personally, I want movies to be created from the heart as an expression, to have amazing character arcs about characters we can identify and love and hate and think about and reflect on, not media that puts ideology first to try and not be cancelled.
A gen z member
Well, you are lucky then. Check classic cinema, you have a lifetime of good movies.
always a culture war warrior in the comments 🙄🙄🙄
this is definitely not what bryan and conan were talking about when they brought up gen z demanding more in their media
take ur damn politics out of here bud, this is a comedy podcast
Have you never seen a movie before you dumb zoomer
@@hiraya5296 LOL, most of Gen-Z couldn't name 10 movies made before 2000.
Omg . I love Bryan Cranston ❤
Yea i mean before nedlix all you had was what was on tv. If youndidnt like it oh well
Gen Z isn’t smarter, we’re just louder. Look at the top 10 shows on Netflix at any given moment, it’s filled with garbage.
Stranger Things, Squid Game, The Queen's Gambit, The Crown, Ozark, Cobra Kai, Black Mirror. Garbage?
@@imalwaysright those are some of the exceptions (and cobra Kai is absolutely garbage)
Exactly, this is the generation that will riot at college just because they don't like a speaker or get a teacher fired for not using whatever made up pronoun is the trend of the month.
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Gen Z needs subway surfers on the side of their TV while breaking bad is on
No they don't.
Gen z actually dont need much for entertainment. Look at what they like.
It's true. I am Gen Z and I get all my entertainment from somebody jangling keys in front of my face.
@@espeka1207 u must be pretty mature then to enjoy such sophisticated entertainment
Seriously Conan, get your hands on a member of BTS and speak with them. The interview will be fantastic.
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Interestingly, when TV was more 'boring and predictable', society and real life was also less horrible and violent.
Nope, you were just younger and therefore less scared and paranoid. The data is freely available online, and you're wrong.
The worst movies of the 80’s are more enjoyable than today’s soapbox sludge.
"You can't serve them the same old dish that they had before" - says the guy who is starring in a remake of an Israeli tv series lmfao
when Cranston says "you have to rise to their level" he moves his hand DOWN... yeah... gen z is definitely dragging humanity down...
Ehh, there are more options but so many of them suck now lol. How many shows are painful political propaganda with zero substance?
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If only bryan knows the gen z kids on reddit regularly post how much they hate walter white because he's the exact opposite of their superhero characters 😂
The reddit where gen z lives rent free in the minds of Boomers lmao. Gen Z love Breaking Bad
Reddit is more for millennials than gen z
Don't speak for us
@@LuisAngel0214 I think reddit has a fair share between gen z and millennials
but walter white does suck.. that’s kind of the point