And the result is ... it is a bit Meh! Why increase the size of your laptop to 16” not give the consumer 16:10 or increase you battery life or increase thermal performance?
that's kind of ironic. This laptop is one of the few modern ones to have an integrated full size SD card, yet that's one of the few that is not suitable for photoediting unless you connect an external display. And I'd rather connect a dongle than a display if you see what I mean
It's excellent that the 6600m is running at 100w in this machine. I just returned a Legion 5 with a 6GB 3060 that was running out of texture memory using ultra settings, so I'm particularly interested in the 8GB video memory. Now, if we can only get this 6600m in a laptop with a MUX switch, 16" 1440p (or 1440x1200 resolution) 165Hz non-floppy panel, like the Legion 5 pro has, and a CPU+cooling solution that doesn't get above 80 degrees, or irritate the hell out of you with fan noise at full load, then we'd really be talking about a laptop I'd buy.
Hey as a long term Nvidia and Intel user I have no idea what 6600m is how close to Rtx2080TI is it and what is the equal of that in AMD or RTx 2080Q Max This should come cheaper now and I know it gets the job done and since new GPU and CPU is on the market those go a bit lower in price any advice?..
Love your laptop reviews! I've acquired this OMEN 16 at the beginning of 2022 with that fabulous 1440p 165Hz Display and can confirm this is a dream laptop. Also got it for just about 1K GBP which is an amazing price value.
I have to agree with your opinion about the Omen's screen and its flimsiness, but is still useable for me. I recently purchased this same HP Omen 16 (Ryzen 5800H & RX 6600M) from my local BestBuy for about $1460 to replace my 5 y/o Dell XPS 9560 (Intel Core 7th gen & NVidia 950) with a 4K display. The HP Omen was not available in store, so it had to be ordered and delivered from where ever their Mainland warehouse, since I live on Oahu, Hawaii .
If I had the choice of choosing between the RTX3060 omen and this model, I would personally pay the 100$ to upgrade from the R5 to R7 in the rtx 3060 since the better gpu(100w 3060), better screen and ray tracing capabilities far outweigh the slight boost in performance and the 16.1 inch screen.
I'd go for this in a heartbeat with the 165Hz panel if the screen wobble gets fixed. The 6600m's 8GB of video memory is decisive. I just returned a Lenovo Legion 5 5800h/3060 because the 6GB of video memory just isn't enough at ultra settings. Typical nGreedia not giving you enough video memory to force you to upgrade to the 3070 for the 8GB, even if you don't need the additional performance.
I'm in the UK, and am considering buying this. The QHD (300 nits, 100% sRGB) is the only version available here. The only thing holding me back right now is the keyboard - it's not a standard UK ISO keyboard layout (i.e. no double height ENTER key, and the backslash (\) key is in a weird location - which will annoy me, as I use it a lot as I'm a Linux user - SHIFT + \ = |). I dunno, I really want to get it (it's £1,299 over here), but that keyboard... Before I arrived in the UK, I only used US ANSI keyboards, so maybe I can get used to the bizarre UK keyboard layout...
The 165hz 2K 16:10 500nits display is the core reason Lenovo Legion 5 pro/Legion 7 becomes the best selling gaming laptop this year, we just need 1 year for other main stream manufactures to learn and deliver it next year
My cheaper Legion 5 (5800 & 3060) with the 165hz display actually measured 380 nits in SDR mode, so not to shabby either! 99% srgb as well and I preferred the 1080p res over the 1440 one. That and the less gamey "esthetic" aka no RGB and logos. Too bad about the slow RAM but that's about the only compromise made on this generation.
@@SF-li9kh Dude, the aero 15 packs a 4k amoled panel for a similar price to the legion laptops. Its not the best gaming laptop there is. Often times its overpriced as hell in several regions.
@@siyzerix 4K sucks for gaming. Especially on a laptop. You don't need the pixel densitiy, hell i even find 1440p overkill for anything less than a 17 inch.
@@Havanu81 Its 4k panel is useful for when you have to look at some really sharp and small text like electrical layout diagrams. Or you need that amoled panel for the colors. Also, amoled is less sharp than ips of the same resolution. I agree 1440p is a waste on 15' screens. 17' is the minimum for 1440p.
Previous Omen series owner here. Unless HP has completed overhauled their manufacturing strategy (which doesn't seem to be the case), they compromise heavily on build quality. So unless you want the greatest value for money gaming laptop that will last you only 2 years at best, I'd look elsewhere.
Thanks. Considering returning this Omen 16 Advantage I bought, mostly because of the cheaper quality build and weird issues like the cursor jumping around while typing or battery draining really quickly on power-saving settings.
@@noahdeering7713 Yup, I experienced all the same issues you're talking about except the battery drain. But I used my own battery management plan. Didn't stop the battery from expanding like a balloon though. Still haven't figured out a good way to dispose of that thing.
Probably with a few more driver updates , this might consistently outperform 3060 in every game. I own a Dell g5 se . And I've disabled the smartshift and set my GPU tdp to 95W and with the latest Radeon drivers , my laptop beats rtx2060 in many games.
Thanks for the great review. And for showing upgradeability. I value being able to install a 2.5" drive and the lack of the port makes this a no-go to me.
Ikr. It's a shame that laptop OEMs are started to ditch out 2.5" storage drive where NAND chips is still expensive-per-GB AF, plus the SSD technology is worsen than ever before (TLC vs. QLC)!
Hmmm this seems like a let down. With the 16” screen I was expecting them to be working towards something to compete against the L5P or the M16. It feels like they really haven’t changed enough to recommend this for the price point
They are not responding to feedback. For example since last generation every reviewer has been complaining about screen flex, sharp edges and screen wobble. I seriously considered Hp Omen before that. These small issues can become very irritating when used on a daily basis. Hence I didn't choose the Omen
I actually prefer it when the hinge is loose, because it makes the laptop "live" longer. I repair laptops as a side job and the most common critical failure (at least physically) are bronken hinges which, in time, also break the screen and the chasis. I do repair it, but it's a gigantic pain and need a lot ot time.
@@FavoniusNavy Because when hinges are too tight, the piece of plastic where they're screwed to eventually breaks. And all the force that the hinges make rests in the screen and in some cases the motherboard
Nice review. I purchased an open-box one from Best Buy for around $1120 and so far it's been a decent laptop. Obviously not the best out there, and I'm still considering switching to a Razer Blade since I came from a Mac and like that style a lot. This laptop performs fairly well, though the battery is poor even doing basic things on power saving modes. I did figure out how to make the backlit functionality have effects instead of being static--it's through the light studio in the Omen gaming hub. Pretty cool. It's a good choice for mid-range gaming, but not very portable and not for long usage of web browsing or creating documents at the coffee shop. You might get 2-3 hours tops unless you figure out some crazy tweaks. Not to forget, you have to carry two massive things around with you--the bulky laptop and the astoundingly large and awkward power brick.
Meanwhile I have a omen 3070 and guys, this laptop I have runs everything at ultra and it looks really gorgeous. Get yourself one people. By the way, it’s 300hz screen
@@unclepalp7048 go for the Lenovo rtx 3060 130W because no way an rtx 3070 100W is gonna perform nearly good enough and acer nitro is about compromises anyway while lenovo legion goes all out
@@unclepalp7048 hmm....if u want that extra vram and some extra gpu performance go for 3070 but i must say legion 5 rtx 3060 is a complete package and also i think nitro doest have advanced optimus so screen is connected to igpu not dgpu so u cant take full advantage of 3070 on the other hand legion comes with advanced optimus and with 130w 3060 it may give u fps similar to nitro 3070 110w ....
They wont be put into higher end laptops unless amd take their competition more seriously. I wud actually like like rnda2 chip makers to start making Zen3 instead.
Still no. If you remember, people didn't start buying AMD CPUs when they matched intel. The began buying it when it absolutely steamrolled Intel. Take any other company. Tesla for example. Same story. So unless they release the 6800M as the 6600M and release a beast instead of 6800M no ones gonna buy it. Consumers want massive gains to switch over to a different product. Not equalling
As pointed out elsewhere, it is possible that the LCD of the rental machine was at the prototype level. As far as the brightness and RGB accuracy numbers are concerned, it is probably a diversion of Victus. (Since the 6600M model is an AMD ADVANTAGE platform, it promises a brightness of more than 300cd and high response speed.) The hinges currently on the market seem to be a little improved. Still, the basic design is delicate. Also, since the battery installed in the RX6600M model is 83wh(max run of 9-hour), 70wh(6-hour) of this model is that of the nvidia model. So the commercial OMEN16 RX6600M model is a pretty extravagant configuration.
A 16:10 panel would nice, as would a RX 6800M version HP! And the issues that Eber brought up all need fixing too. My really the main issue is putting the power button right next to the delete key and having it be the exact same shape as it and the F12 key! Absolutely bonkers!
I bought this laptop less than a month ago, really enjoyed the hell out of it...but then a bios update from hp ruined the entire computer itself (not possible to do a bios reset or initiate a bios recovery). I was hesitant to update the bios itself, since I've experienced troubled drivers from hp years back. Luckily I got a refund and reluctantly bought a lenovo laptop instead. I really loved the rx 6600m and the omen itself, but I don't dare to take a second chance on HP. Need a stable laptop for my computer science degree.
Not Asus. Their AMD Tuf series still has a bad display but their Intel version is available with a really good display. No company is going to refuse that sweet bribe
I KNOW Right???!! ASUS Strix with RX 6800M was $1499 on Bestbuy a month ago and here is HP, boldly trying to charge us consumers the same stinking price for a 6600M GPU at msrp 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤮 RX 6600M laptops should be priced at $1000 maximum. Period.
@@SF-li9kh I disagree with that, they have provided AMD with unique and best in class products. Take the zephyrus g14 for example, this year their top flagships have AMD in them, there is also the g15 AE. About TUF, sure they have their problems, but as far as I reckon, they were the only laptops equipped with rtx graphics with 3rd gen ryzen (3750h), when everybody else sidelined it.
Would love to see comparission of full AMD laptop vs. Intel + Nvidia laptop of the same class. Preferably also AMD + Nvidia laptop. I really wonder if AMD smartshift would actually make a difference and beat the competition
I have a 2 years old nephew who always manages to press the power button whilst I work from home. For me, locating the power button on the keyboard is a good thing haha! I am gonna go with the 16-b0360TX variant, great review bdw! :)
Is this a joke? 'AMD Advantage' is supposedly a badge of assured quality - does 67% of sRGB coverage make this a "Premium Display" as advertised for AMD's "Advantage" branding? And no, a higher resolution panel with better gamut is not a viable option paired with a 6600M! That means I either have to run at a more demanding resolution with lower FPS, or put up with the blur from QHD to FHD scaling. And I have to pay for the privilege of that handicap? Which would put it at the same price as a Strix G15 Advantage Edition! Bah! I'm so sick of waiting for AMD's OEMs to get their crap together. Asus is the only company that takes them seriously.
Nope. The 6800M trades blows with the 3070. Facts are facts, the AMD cards are weaker. I wish they renamed 6800M to 6700M and the 6700M to 6600M which brings it on par with Nvidia
@@tanushadithiya7136 my 1660Ti did well for the past 3 years idk what your issue is with Helios. Also it's been out for almost a month now in the US. Rtx 3060 i7 11800H 500GB ssd... For $1299
@@fyrecuda Hey I know it was a good laptop but hear me out. That design language showed up in 2018 and it's the same till date. Battery life is trash. And it has a empty spot for 2.5 hdd in 2021!. The screen is outdated too. Like the legions offer 165hz with good coverage.
That panel is a criminal act for the price it's asking, but also feel so HP. They always do well in pervious models then mess it up. They did turned around their stereotype of overheating in the recent years tho.
I'm kinda happy. I got a great deal on an omen 15 and was worried the 16 would make me regret it. But the only reason I would have had for buying it would have been a 1440 display. But they put a 1080 in it again.
3060 is a beast but castrated at 6GB VRAM. But next year you can't game in Ultra. Many games can't already be run at Ultra. So yeah no point in buying a high power 3060. Instead use the money to get a 3070
I bought hp omen 17 with 10750H and 2080super mobile, otherwise same specs as fast ssd, 144hz 1080p but at least gsync. All in all I dont regret for not waiting the 3000s nvidia, since they are such a joke with this random wattage. My 2080super with 150W beats most 3070s and i havent tried the 200w bios update I plan to test. If i dislike something, it is the intel cpu.. damn for 6core only gets so hot.. finally my warrenty finished, so I can apply a real thermal solution and hopefully fix that. Screeen of the omen 17 has no such ridiculous wobble. I really like the colours. But the brightness was a joke too. Coming from asus rog g750jz, that i still have, the asus one, being 5+ years old can get you blind in the dark on full brightness, but the hp... in day time if it's sunny, unexpectedly weak. Also, what i disliked was the speakers... but the last laptop with good speakers/subwoofer i used was Toshiba Qosmio f50. After that everything s***** in comparison. On the positive side - performance check. Beast, i beat desktop ryzen 7 3800X with rx 5700 xt which was unexpected. Maintainability check. Ports, thunderbolt check. Reliabity - lets see :D hopefully. So far the only survived laptop i have is this 8+ years old toshiba, that i used to play games before with gpu reaching almost 120 degrease!!! And now still working.. somehow, newer laptops might get faster and better, but reliability seems to be globally going down... and understandable, when they come up so regularly with "new generations" and reasons to update instead of improve what they already have.. yey capitalism
Just an FYI, that HP now has the QHD screen configuration available to order off their website in Canada. Having said that, they're asking $1,999 for it. At that price point, it opens up a lot of other laptop options (Legion 5 Pro, ROG Strix G15 AE, Zephyrus G15, Zephyrus M16, etc.).
I guess it's the same 16" panel for Victus from a Chinese manufacturer BOE. I noticed heavy green tone on the panel of Victus in a review though the reviewer praised that the quality is wonderful.
I hope 6600m comes in the form of desktop gpu Slot in below 6600xt with undervolt/100w tdp like this should be good enough for 1080p gaming..since i only play warzone these days
I had a Spectre 13 x360 from 2019, I loved it. 2 years without any problems. And the best thing was the buildquality. Clean edges, all metal and glass. Im honestly shocked how bad this Omen laptop is designed. The hinge, the plastic, the screen quality etc. I mean yeah, its a gaming laptop. But come on HP.
Hello everyone , i want talking about this laptop with every details , first of all the laptop have a good amd cpu with wonderful AMD graphic(6600) , i test the laptop in game and heavy load very fantastic but , the laptop have a big problem , if u want use a external monitor u get a more problem with graphics , black screen squerartfics and more. i was thinking the problem from drvier i disabled the windows update driver, but the problem stilling, how u can find the problem first if u use AnyDesk or any stream software u can see it also in google chrome, youtube also i found a many people have same issue , and the people talked with hp and some one also the hp company replacement the motherboard but the problem stilling there, so the model have problem engiring desing the graphic card i didnt recommended ...
still waiting for metric measurements for dimensions of laptops. Don't ditch out the imperial, don't change your script to put it in the video, but a little indication of the metric conversion would be nice. I mean you're already doing the exact same thing for weight
was curious if HP had gotten any better, after seeing this review, I really want to give a word of caution here, I've owned the HP omen older model, and will never buy HP again...thermals were horrible...battery swelled and I didn't even know, until I had to open the bottom due to fan noise (the same fan I had to replace under warranty, which means it's happened 2 x ) wasn't able to fix the fan, at all...and then plugging in the cord, wout the swollen battery , would never start up. I'm back now with Lenovo Legion 5 2021 model 4800h + 1650ti (never ever gets hot on the keyboard, 4 vents, w a huge air holes in the bottom ) I wanted the 1660 but was OOS here where I am, and the build quality is leagues ahead of the HP. With years of experience, HP is still clearly unable to figure out how to build a decent laptop. My previous Lenovo lasted 6 years, the build quality of this one, seems way better than even if it's plastic. Seriously make sure you search everything you can (forums, etc..) before buying any HP stuff....and yes, Lenovo Legion seems to actually listen to complaints. lcd hinges seem to be stronger than previous, not much flex for the keyboard area + lcd panel, etc...yes I'm biased, I used to own 2 lenovos a thinkpad which got stolen and a budget gaming, which I finally gave up as the frame literally fell apart cuz I dropped it once on the corner bottom and slowly but surely the hole frame fell apart after 6 years!, but it sure never died on me like the HP Omen I had which was supposed to be a premium gaming laptop.
A recent physics graduate, I'm getting into data analysis (I'm not a gamer). Although I don't need a lot of power, I can spend some extra money. I came across this one for $2199 (a data analysis vlogger recommended them). That seems really inexpensive for what I get (pasted below). Opinions? Also, I use Ubuntu (to be exact, PopOS). Will I see any problems? 11th Gen Intel 8-Core i7-11800H I 64GB DDR4 2TB SSD I Geforce RTX 3060 6GB I Thunderbolt Backlit Win11 + 32GB MicroSD Card
Now I don't have to review it
Even Omen 15 has better all around spec than this, and I currently have one because of you. 😁
Please review Thinkbook 14 Gen2 ARE
Waiting for Just Josh to review HP Envy 15 2021 with RTX 3060 and Xiaomi Mi Notebook Pro X 15.
A review is not just an information anymore, it is entertainment!
And the result is ... it is a bit Meh! Why increase the size of your laptop to 16” not give the consumer 16:10 or increase you battery life or increase thermal performance?
Considering! 🤣 Awesome job as usual Eber.
Thanks buddy!
There are tons of gaming laptops with that 67 percent srgb panel, I am glad finally someone addressed this. Most reviewers don't review base models.
i wanted to buy this and i was like BRUH 49% wtf?
100% sRGB really should be the minimum these days, being less than 70% is pretty pathetic.
I can't believe they did that. Considering that Omen 15 had 100% sRGB screen.
all companies get away with shipping $3000 laptops and still have worse camera than a $100 phone so
@@hoangd4132 Razer I'm looking at you
Who cares about gay ass lighting
@EZPZ he Def thought you were talking about keyboard rgb
that's kind of ironic. This laptop is one of the few modern ones to have an integrated full size SD card, yet that's one of the few that is not suitable for photoediting unless you connect an external display.
And I'd rather connect a dongle than a display if you see what I mean
Truly
This laptop can't photo editing??
@@newdumb3014 lol what? No, read again 🤦♂️ Or, try to improve your english so you can understand it better.
@@hadifelani sure, old man "who can type and read english so good" but I bet when you speak it, the native won't understand either.
@@newdumb3014 lol how can you be so sure? 😂
Thanks so much for the review, especially since HP's website is so lacking on information.
It's excellent that the 6600m is running at 100w in this machine. I just returned a Legion 5 with a 6GB 3060 that was running out of texture memory using ultra settings, so I'm particularly interested in the 8GB video memory. Now, if we can only get this 6600m in a laptop with a MUX switch, 16" 1440p (or 1440x1200 resolution) 165Hz non-floppy panel, like the Legion 5 pro has, and a CPU+cooling solution that doesn't get above 80 degrees, or irritate the hell out of you with fan noise at full load, then we'd really be talking about a laptop I'd buy.
Hey as a long term Nvidia and Intel user I have no idea what 6600m is how close to Rtx2080TI is it and what is the equal of that in AMD or RTx 2080Q Max This should come cheaper now and I know it gets the job done and since new GPU and CPU is on the market those go a bit lower in price any advice?..
The fact they only allowed an sd card reader for their “mid-range” laptop, over the high end 6800m version with better screen accuracy…
What 6800m version?
@@nathancasey7712 Look at the Asus strix advantage laptop that has that
Love your laptop reviews! I've acquired this OMEN 16 at the beginning of 2022 with that fabulous 1440p 165Hz Display and can confirm this is a dream laptop. Also got it for just about 1K GBP which is an amazing price value.
Ima about purchase mine soon is it one ram slot or two
@@Breezy_Amvs 2, by default both come populated (dual channel), so any upgrade needs all changing
@@joaoysphotography How's the omen fairing for you these days?
Recommend for 800 gdp?
@@DansPCGamerHD ye
Looks like HP could solve the wobbly screen issue by using the hinge mechanism on the Asus G14 Zephyrus.
I have to agree with your opinion about the Omen's screen and its flimsiness, but is still useable for me. I recently purchased this same HP Omen 16 (Ryzen 5800H & RX 6600M) from my local BestBuy for about $1460 to replace my 5 y/o Dell XPS 9560 (Intel Core 7th gen & NVidia 950) with a 4K display. The HP Omen was not available in store, so it had to be ordered and delivered from where ever their Mainland warehouse, since I live on Oahu, Hawaii .
If I had the choice of choosing between the RTX3060 omen and this model, I would personally pay the 100$ to upgrade from the R5 to R7 in the rtx 3060 since the better gpu(100w 3060), better screen and ray tracing capabilities far outweigh the slight boost in performance and the 16.1 inch screen.
@Saurabh yeah that guy reeeaaallly sounds like he is sooooo butthurt
I'd go for this in a heartbeat with the 165Hz panel if the screen wobble gets fixed. The 6600m's 8GB of video memory is decisive. I just returned a Lenovo Legion 5 5800h/3060 because the 6GB of video memory just isn't enough at ultra settings. Typical nGreedia not giving you enough video memory to force you to upgrade to the 3070 for the 8GB, even if you don't need the additional performance.
@Saurabh Brother, the dude is agreeing with you. They ain't butthurt.
You won’t do much ray tracing with the 3060 unless you like slideshows
@Saurabh you might wanna phrase that better considering it definitely does play just not on ultra nightmare
I'm in the UK, and am considering buying this. The QHD (300 nits, 100% sRGB) is the only version available here. The only thing holding me back right now is the keyboard - it's not a standard UK ISO keyboard layout (i.e. no double height ENTER key, and the backslash (\) key is in a weird location - which will annoy me, as I use it a lot as I'm a Linux user - SHIFT + \ = |). I dunno, I really want to get it (it's £1,299 over here), but that keyboard... Before I arrived in the UK, I only used US ANSI keyboards, so maybe I can get used to the bizarre UK keyboard layout...
The 165hz 2K 16:10 500nits display is the core reason Lenovo Legion 5 pro/Legion 7 becomes the best selling gaming laptop this year, we just need 1 year for other main stream manufactures to learn and deliver it next year
Really? Not the only reason. The main reason I feel is the full power 130W GPU. Other laptops hardly have a 90W GPU
My cheaper Legion 5 (5800 & 3060) with the 165hz display actually measured 380 nits in SDR mode, so not to shabby either! 99% srgb as well and I preferred the 1080p res over the 1440 one. That and the less gamey "esthetic" aka no RGB and logos. Too bad about the slow RAM but that's about the only compromise made on this generation.
@@SF-li9kh Dude, the aero 15 packs a 4k amoled panel for a similar price to the legion laptops. Its not the best gaming laptop there is. Often times its overpriced as hell in several regions.
@@siyzerix 4K sucks for gaming. Especially on a laptop. You don't need the pixel densitiy, hell i even find 1440p overkill for anything less than a 17 inch.
@@Havanu81 Its 4k panel is useful for when you have to look at some really sharp and small text like electrical layout diagrams. Or you need that amoled panel for the colors. Also, amoled is less sharp than ips of the same resolution.
I agree 1440p is a waste on 15' screens. 17' is the minimum for 1440p.
Previous Omen series owner here. Unless HP has completed overhauled their manufacturing strategy (which doesn't seem to be the case), they compromise heavily on build quality. So unless you want the greatest value for money gaming laptop that will last you only 2 years at best, I'd look elsewhere.
Thanks for the tip. Currently looking for a laptop that can handle gaming on downtime under $1400 so that helps
Thanks. Considering returning this Omen 16 Advantage I bought, mostly because of the cheaper quality build and weird issues like the cursor jumping around while typing or battery draining really quickly on power-saving settings.
@@noahdeering7713 Yup, I experienced all the same issues you're talking about except the battery drain. But I used my own battery management plan. Didn't stop the battery from expanding like a balloon though. Still haven't figured out a good way to dispose of that thing.
Which brand would you recommend?
This laptop is on sale at best buy but it has no reviews. Should i buy this laptop later on????
Nice to see you mention on the screen, because some people only care about the Spec but the screen and build-quality is important too.
Probably with a few more driver updates , this might consistently outperform 3060 in every game. I own a Dell g5 se . And I've disabled the smartshift and set my GPU tdp to 95W and with the latest Radeon drivers , my laptop beats rtx2060 in many games.
Ngl this feels a lot like victus to me, from the wobbly screen to the internals and then the thickness too. Seems like they used the same body.
Thanks for the great review. And for showing upgradeability. I value being able to install a 2.5" drive and the lack of the port makes this a no-go to me.
Ikr.
It's a shame that laptop OEMs are started to ditch out 2.5" storage drive where NAND chips is still expensive-per-GB AF, plus the SSD technology is worsen than ever before (TLC vs. QLC)!
Hmmm this seems like a let down. With the 16” screen I was expecting them to be working towards something to compete against the L5P or the M16. It feels like they really haven’t changed enough to recommend this for the price point
They are not responding to feedback. For example since last generation every reviewer has been complaining about screen flex, sharp edges and screen wobble. I seriously considered Hp Omen before that. These small issues can become very irritating when used on a daily basis. Hence I didn't choose the Omen
I actually prefer it when the hinge is loose, because it makes the laptop "live" longer. I repair laptops as a side job and the most common critical failure (at least physically) are bronken hinges which, in time, also break the screen and the chasis. I do repair it, but it's a gigantic pain and need a lot ot time.
How's loose hinge means longer longetivity? Pardon me, I genuinely asked
@@FavoniusNavy Because when hinges are too tight, the piece of plastic where they're screwed to eventually breaks. And all the force that the hinges make rests in the screen and in some cases the motherboard
Would like to see higher end Omens reviewed, such as the Omen 17 and the Intel version of the Omen 15.
Great review as always!
Nice review. I purchased an open-box one from Best Buy for around $1120 and so far it's been a decent laptop. Obviously not the best out there, and I'm still considering switching to a Razer Blade since I came from a Mac and like that style a lot. This laptop performs fairly well, though the battery is poor even doing basic things on power saving modes. I did figure out how to make the backlit functionality have effects instead of being static--it's through the light studio in the Omen gaming hub. Pretty cool. It's a good choice for mid-range gaming, but not very portable and not for long usage of web browsing or creating documents at the coffee shop. You might get 2-3 hours tops unless you figure out some crazy tweaks. Not to forget, you have to carry two massive things around with you--the bulky laptop and the astoundingly large and awkward power brick.
That omen 16 should have a 16:10 screen with better color space
Meanwhile I have a omen 3070 and guys, this laptop I have runs everything at ultra and it looks really gorgeous. Get yourself one people. By the way, it’s 300hz screen
Should i go for the rtx 3060 130w or the 3070 100w?? they are the same price in my country... Lenovo 5 rtx 3060 and the acer nitro 5 rtx 3070
in my country HP Victus 16 is really good too
@@unclepalp7048 go for the Lenovo rtx 3060 130W because no way an rtx 3070 100W is gonna perform nearly good enough and acer nitro is about compromises anyway while lenovo legion goes all out
@@unclepalp7048 hmm....if u want that extra vram and some extra gpu performance go for 3070 but i must say legion 5 rtx 3060 is a complete package and also i think nitro doest have advanced optimus so screen is connected to igpu not dgpu so u cant take full advantage of 3070 on the other hand legion comes with advanced optimus and with 130w 3060 it may give u fps similar to nitro 3070 110w ....
AMD’s mobile GPU’s won’t be taken serious til they get them in higher end gaming laptops
They wont be put into higher end laptops unless amd take their competition more seriously.
I wud actually like like rnda2 chip makers to start making Zen3 instead.
Yeah go AMD! Beat that 3060!
I'm disappointed too because they marketed it as Advantage Edition laptop.
Still no. If you remember, people didn't start buying AMD CPUs when they matched intel. The began buying it when it absolutely steamrolled Intel. Take any other company. Tesla for example. Same story. So unless they release the 6800M as the 6600M and release a beast instead of 6800M no ones gonna buy it. Consumers want massive gains to switch over to a different product. Not equalling
@@SF-li9kh and yet if that keeps on happening, the monopoly would rise. 🤷
As pointed out elsewhere, it is possible that the LCD of the rental machine was at the prototype level.
As far as the brightness and RGB accuracy numbers are concerned, it is probably a diversion of Victus.
(Since the 6600M model is an AMD ADVANTAGE platform, it promises a brightness of more than 300cd and high response speed.)
The hinges currently on the market seem to be a little improved.
Still, the basic design is delicate.
Also, since the battery installed in the RX6600M model is 83wh(max run of 9-hour), 70wh(6-hour) of this model is that of the nvidia model.
So the commercial OMEN16 RX6600M model is a pretty extravagant configuration.
A 16:10 panel would nice, as would a RX 6800M version HP! And the issues that Eber brought up all need fixing too.
My really the main issue is putting the power button right next to the delete key and having it be the exact same shape as it and the F12 key! Absolutely bonkers!
New hobby: watching things I can't afford
Great video as always...just one thing, the chapter title "Real World Gaming Benchmarks" looks like encoding and rendering benchmarks
13:56 "Neither mode made it above 85 degrees", I guess you meant not 85 but 95 degrees, as the graph shows.
95°C is the upper limit, so it thermal throttled
I bought this laptop less than a month ago, really enjoyed the hell out of it...but then a bios update from hp ruined the entire computer itself (not possible to do a bios reset or initiate a bios recovery). I was hesitant to update the bios itself, since I've experienced troubled drivers from hp years back. Luckily I got a refund and reluctantly bought a lenovo laptop instead. I really loved the rx 6600m and the omen itself, but I don't dare to take a second chance on HP. Need a stable laptop for my computer science degree.
I’ve always been happy with the bios updates from hp… my last spectre lasted for 9 years
Never do bios updates lol
Oh boy, i wish i could get the Radeon 6800M on this device 🥺
I really appreciate the honesty during the review. Thank you very much.
The problem is that I NEED the Nvidia for Cuda core work with Premiere Pro, and I've used Radeon but the difference is notable.
Then we should be screaming at Adobe to optimize Premiere Pro for Radeons as well as nGreedia, shouldn't we.
This is atrocious from HP! Clearly gimped it on purpose. Only Asus and Lenovo truly support AMD, these other brands are shams!
what?
@@dandiaz19934 Some companies gimp the cooling, screen, features so other laptop look better, yeah makes no sense but they will do it.
Not Asus. Their AMD Tuf series still has a bad display but their Intel version is available with a really good display. No company is going to refuse that sweet bribe
I KNOW Right???!! ASUS Strix with RX 6800M was $1499 on Bestbuy a month ago and here is HP, boldly trying to charge us consumers the same stinking price for a 6600M GPU at msrp 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤮 RX 6600M laptops should be priced at $1000 maximum. Period.
@@SF-li9kh I disagree with that, they have provided AMD with unique and best in class products. Take the zephyrus g14 for example, this year their top flagships have AMD in them, there is also the g15 AE. About TUF, sure they have their problems, but as far as I reckon, they were the only laptops equipped with rtx graphics with 3rd gen ryzen (3750h), when everybody else sidelined it.
I got my Omen 15 with an rtx 3070 and a Ryzen 7 5700H for 1.500€ and i'm very happy with the Performance it is giving!
TDP of the 3070 ?
@@SF-li9kh 100 Watts
Is there any way to turn off the RTX 3070 in the BIOS?
Hello sir, just wanted to say that i have always loved your content. Hope you are doing well in your day to day life as well.
He is not you typical 'SiR'. Are you Indian?
@@imtusharrajput yes 😅
Would love to see comparission of full AMD laptop vs. Intel + Nvidia laptop of the same class. Preferably also AMD + Nvidia laptop. I really wonder if AMD smartshift would actually make a difference and beat the competition
FINALLY an honest review on the laptop. really cant find any other video that isnt about praising this laptop anywhere else
Please get your hands on the HP Victus 16 RTX 3060 Ryzen 5800h
I have a 2 years old nephew who always manages to press the power button whilst I work from home. For me, locating the power button on the keyboard is a good thing haha!
I am gonna go with the 16-b0360TX variant, great review bdw! :)
Great review, thank you.
Your reviews are very good. Your voice is clear and easy to understand. Thanks
Thank you so much for making this - its really helping me decide my purchase
This will make the 5600h + 6600m laptops very cheap after 6-9 months for buyers.
Nice
Thank god crypto miners don't like laptops. Else we would be getting laptops at 5000$ 😂
Is this a joke? 'AMD Advantage' is supposedly a badge of assured quality - does 67% of sRGB coverage make this a "Premium Display" as advertised for AMD's "Advantage" branding?
And no, a higher resolution panel with better gamut is not a viable option paired with a 6600M! That means I either have to run at a more demanding resolution with lower FPS, or put up with the blur from QHD to FHD scaling. And I have to pay for the privilege of that handicap? Which would put it at the same price as a Strix G15 Advantage Edition!
Bah! I'm so sick of waiting for AMD's OEMs to get their crap together.
Asus is the only company that takes them seriously.
The gpu performance is interesting
I'm now wondering where the 6700m in the MSI Delta 15 falls (3070 125-140watt equivalent?)
Nope. The 6800M trades blows with the 3070. Facts are facts, the AMD cards are weaker. I wish they renamed 6800M to 6700M and the 6700M to 6600M which brings it on par with Nvidia
@@SF-li9kh rx6800m clearly has higher fps than 3080 is some games and higher than 3070 in almost all the games. And it costs less than 3070
@@SF-li9kh 6600m beats 3060 everywhere LoL....
typo - edition 😂, sorry, you guys are doing a great job, keep it up 😍
Great review, very honest and thorough. One of the best tech reviewers.
Why does your "Real World Gaming Benchmarks" section not have any gaming benchmark?
Why is no one reviewing the new Helios 300 11th gen, literally no reviews can someone review it already 😔. Nice video btw
Dude it like just came out and it's a shitty laptop anyway.
@@tanushadithiya7136 my 1660Ti did well for the past 3 years idk what your issue is with Helios. Also it's been out for almost a month now in the US. Rtx 3060 i7 11800H 500GB ssd... For $1299
@@fyrecuda Hey I know it was a good laptop but hear me out. That design language showed up in 2018 and it's the same till date. Battery life is trash. And it has a empty spot for 2.5 hdd in 2021!. The screen is outdated too. Like the legions offer 165hz with good coverage.
The light studio of the HP Command Center does allow for RGB custom keyboard lighting effects.
Just bought this with the QHD (1440p) screen) for £1039 best value for money ever!
Great video!
Can we have the HP victus 16 review?
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That panel is a criminal act for the price it's asking, but also feel so HP. They always do well in pervious models then mess it up. They did turned around their stereotype of overheating in the recent years tho.
Excellent video. What is your voltage? Do you think it's better than the Legionn 5 Rtx 3060?
8:11 it's a BUDGET gaming laptop, not a graphic design laptop which HP has in their range. They are also expecting a gamer to get a monitor.
What's the point of a laptop if you have to get a monitor with it?
1500 dollars is BUDGET?!?!
I have the 15 version of this with the ryzen 5 4600H and GTX1160ti and its great.
Temps are close to 90°C.... bloody hell that is HOT 🔥
Honestly as long is below 95 degree celcius should be fine
is it just the HP Victus screen?
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Isn't Victus available with the 100% sRGB option? At least it's available here in India
I'm kinda happy. I got a great deal on an omen 15 and was worried the 16 would make me regret it.
But the only reason I would have had for buying it would have been a 1440 display. But they put a 1080 in it again.
Should I get the legion 5 or omen 15 both with ryzen 7 and rtx3060
The legion 5 has higher power 3060 (130w with boost)
3060 is a beast but castrated at 6GB VRAM. But next year you can't game in Ultra. Many games can't already be run at Ultra. So yeah no point in buying a high power 3060. Instead use the money to get a 3070
The QHD version is now available and covers 100% DCI-P3 @300 nits.
I bought hp omen 17 with 10750H and 2080super mobile, otherwise same specs as fast ssd, 144hz 1080p but at least gsync. All in all I dont regret for not waiting the 3000s nvidia, since they are such a joke with this random wattage. My 2080super with 150W beats most 3070s and i havent tried the 200w bios update I plan to test. If i dislike something, it is the intel cpu.. damn for 6core only gets so hot.. finally my warrenty finished, so I can apply a real thermal solution and hopefully fix that.
Screeen of the omen 17 has no such ridiculous wobble. I really like the colours. But the brightness was a joke too. Coming from asus rog g750jz, that i still have, the asus one, being 5+ years old can get you blind in the dark on full brightness, but the hp... in day time if it's sunny, unexpectedly weak. Also, what i disliked was the speakers... but the last laptop with good speakers/subwoofer i used was Toshiba Qosmio f50. After that everything s***** in comparison.
On the positive side - performance check. Beast, i beat desktop ryzen 7 3800X with rx 5700 xt which was unexpected. Maintainability check. Ports, thunderbolt check. Reliabity - lets see :D hopefully. So far the only survived laptop i have is this 8+ years old toshiba, that i used to play games before with gpu reaching almost 120 degrease!!! And now still working.. somehow, newer laptops might get faster and better, but reliability seems to be globally going down... and understandable, when they come up so regularly with "new generations" and reasons to update instead of improve what they already have.. yey capitalism
Just an FYI, that HP now has the QHD screen configuration available to order off their website in Canada. Having said that, they're asking $1,999 for it. At that price point, it opens up a lot of other laptop options (Legion 5 Pro, ROG Strix G15 AE, Zephyrus G15, Zephyrus M16, etc.).
If you use light studio you can use effects on the keyboard
Yoo your review is sooo clean
This laptop in a nutshell: "there's a catch"
Thank you! Someone finally said it! Tuned by Bang & Olufsen means Jack shit these days!!!
They have really destroyed their own brand.
I just bought omen 15, a literal beast.
Do you know if there's a way to turn off the dedicated GPU (NVidia GPU) within the BIOS?
@@MnemonicCarrier You can't turn it off, I've already asked the support. Tried myself.
@@mqooz2538 Thanks
13:56 voice: 85 degrees, graph: 95 degrees
Which one is it?
I guess it's the same 16" panel for Victus from a Chinese manufacturer BOE. I noticed heavy green tone on the panel of Victus in a review though the reviewer praised that the quality is wonderful.
I hope 6600m comes in the form of desktop gpu
Slot in below 6600xt with undervolt/100w tdp like this should be good enough for 1080p gaming..since i only play warzone these days
You can customize the RGB keys further with animation and all through Omen Light Studio
Love it!
I can still understand everything being said when increasing playback speed to 1.75x 🤔😄
I always always watch every video in 2X speed. Never gone back to 1x
Same dude! Always watch these tech videos at 1.75x, the perfect balance of speed and intelligibility 😁
I had a Spectre 13 x360 from 2019, I loved it. 2 years without any problems. And the best thing was the buildquality. Clean edges, all metal and glass. Im honestly shocked how bad this Omen laptop is designed. The hinge, the plastic, the screen quality etc. I mean yeah, its a gaming laptop. But come on HP.
Hello everyone , i want talking about this laptop with every details , first of all the laptop have a good amd cpu with wonderful AMD graphic(6600) , i test the laptop in game and heavy load very fantastic but , the laptop have a big problem , if u want use a external monitor u get a more problem with graphics , black screen squerartfics and more. i was thinking the problem from drvier i disabled the windows update driver, but the problem stilling, how u can find the problem first if u use AnyDesk or any stream software u can see it also in google chrome, youtube also i found a many people have same issue , and the people talked with hp and some one also the hp company replacement the motherboard but the problem stilling there, so the model have problem engiring desing the graphic card i didnt recommended ...
still waiting for metric measurements for dimensions of laptops. Don't ditch out the imperial, don't change your script to put it in the video, but a little indication of the metric conversion would be nice. I mean you're already doing the exact same thing for weight
Based in Canada. For Canada. Probably why
Nice review sir
Great review as always!! Please can you also review the new Dell Inspiron 16 plus...such a unique machine and not many reviews yet
Amazing video thanks awesome channel !
So if im doing primarily video editing and rendering would you suggest the RX 6600M or the NIVIDIA?
typo in time stamps for 11:32 it says "Real World 'Gaming' Benchmarks"
Nice review.
If I was anymore tired this guy's voice would put me to slee
11:32 I think it should be Real World Workload benchmark? there is nothing related to gaming in that segment
Do you know when it will be available in France?
If HP give the Omen a more premium looks, better speaker, it will be such a steal. Current looks too generic
I like this look personally, something similar to the legion 5
WOuld this be worth getting for 700-750 in 2024
Should I get this laptop for making Musoc and recording on Protools?
was curious if HP had gotten any better, after seeing this review, I really want to give a word of caution here, I've owned the HP omen older model, and will never buy HP again...thermals were horrible...battery swelled and I didn't even know, until I had to open the bottom due to fan noise (the same fan I had to replace under warranty, which means it's happened 2 x ) wasn't able to fix the fan, at all...and then plugging in the cord, wout the swollen battery , would never start up. I'm back now with Lenovo Legion 5 2021 model 4800h + 1650ti (never ever gets hot on the keyboard, 4 vents, w a huge air holes in the bottom ) I wanted the 1660 but was OOS here where I am, and the build quality is leagues ahead of the HP. With years of experience, HP is still clearly unable to figure out how to build a decent laptop. My previous Lenovo lasted 6 years, the build quality of this one, seems way better than even if it's plastic. Seriously make sure you search everything you can (forums, etc..) before buying any HP stuff....and yes, Lenovo Legion seems to actually listen to complaints. lcd hinges seem to be stronger than previous, not much flex for the keyboard area + lcd panel, etc...yes I'm biased, I used to own 2 lenovos a thinkpad which got stolen and a budget gaming, which I finally gave up as the frame literally fell apart cuz I dropped it once on the corner bottom and slowly but surely the hole frame fell apart after 6 years!, but it sure never died on me like the HP Omen I had which was supposed to be a premium gaming laptop.
Hello, would you recomend this version or the intel i7 11th generation version?
The i7-11800H version of the Omen 16 doesn't exhibit any screen wobble at all. HP must of acted on yours and others complaints.
how to switch between performance and balanced mode
A recent physics graduate, I'm getting into data analysis (I'm not a gamer). Although I don't need a lot of power, I can spend some extra money.
I came across this one for $2199 (a data analysis vlogger recommended them). That seems really inexpensive for what I get (pasted below).
Opinions?
Also, I use Ubuntu (to be exact, PopOS). Will I see any problems?
11th Gen Intel 8-Core i7-11800H I 64GB DDR4 2TB SSD I Geforce RTX 3060 6GB I Thunderbolt Backlit Win11 + 32GB MicroSD Card
I'm definitely taking this one display aint much of an issue for me.
Did you get it? How do you enjoy it?
Great review :)
This looks like a monster nice 👍