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Crystal Beach Cyclone: The Legendary Defunct Wooden Coaster by Harry G. Traver
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2021
- By the 1920s, Harry G. Traver was one of the most accomplished manufacturers in the theme park industry. However, it was his Cyclone coaster model that made a lasting impact on amusement parks.
This trio of coasters has become infamous for providing an overly intense ride experience, resulting in strained necks and other injuries. Yet, coaster enthusiasts to this day still wish they could have experienced the legendary Crystal Beach Cyclone.
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Rossi, E. (2005). Crystal Beach: The Good Old Days. Canada: Seventy Seven Pub.
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Great video - seemed way ahead of its time!
Thank you! Must've been a huge shock compared to what else was out there back then
I just saw a video that only gave a few sentences to this coaster. It sucked. You did a much better job, but this coaster had a lot of stories. It has a greater history, but overall this was a great synopsis of the coaster. Thank you for giving this coaster the respect it deserves and not limiting it to something like, "The roughest coaster of all time. It was built [blah blah]. It was torn down 20 years later." Some people came to the park not to ride this ride, but to watch people go on it. It was like going to a boxing match and hoping to see blood. This was a rough ride. It may not been as much fun as trying to prove to the world that you had the balls to ride it.
Thank you so much! I hadn't heard that. Interesting. Morbid curiosity gets the best of us!
True my grandfather told me the same there were more people watching the coaster than riding it but I have ridden the second comet ☄️🌠 many many times even backwards for the one year trying to get more people to the park.
If this layout was built today, I think some would consider it a Top 10 Wooden Coaster.
👀 bold, but you might be right
I would be so bold as to say MOST would put it there. Harry Traver was to the early 20th century what RMC is to the early 21st.
If I could get one ride on any defunct coaster, it would probably be this one.
Definitely RMC style... They were ahead of their time and capabilities
@@phoenixshade3 as long as theres a nurse on duty 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If someone rebuilt this as either a hybrid or steel coaster, it would be on the short list of best coasters for sure! Make sure there's plenty of safety features, though.
And... in keeping up with its history, I'd put a first aid station right across from it!
After all these years, I would still give my right arm for a chance to ride Harry Traver's Crystal Beach CYCLONE. The engineering that went into the creation of this magnificent beast was incredible!
I believe the design is public domain now, so all we need is someone crazy enough and rich enough to recreate it! 😄
@@StorybookAmusement I think with modern technology, RMC or GCI could replicate this coaster with Iron Horse or Titan Track and be a lot safer than it was back in the day.
Traver was a builder but not a very good designer. This ride basically would tear itself apart whenever it ran. I would not say the engineering was incredible. None-the-less, kudos to Traver for being brave enough to try bringing it into existence.
I'd think that with all the safety features now available, this COULD be replicated. Padded head and arm rests would be needed, along with a neck bar. They could probably make some improvements to prevent wear and tear to the track. Would anyone here know?
@@psalm37v4 a neck bar?
Yes! The rumor of a nurse on duty is true...my mother used to ride the Cyclone and loved it and told me they had a nurse on duty!
😅 That’s amazing! Very neat to hear
My parents were born in 1927 the year they opened. Dads gone but mom's 94. Hard to believe that such rides existed so long ago but I have read several stories about them including one from an old amusement park book in the 1980s where all 3 of these coasters were mentioned, including the nurse being stationed at the ride. It included a photo of this ride. That banked drop was sick.
It's absurd to think how much the world has changed since this ride opened, yet how this is still thought of as one of the most intense coasters ever. Even with all the innovation, seems that only few have topped this one.
I rode the Comet for years as a kid and the final summer in 1989 at Crystal Beach. I then rode it many years later at The Great Escape. It was so weird to see it away from the lake and next to the woods. I still love that coaster though!
That's awesome! Relocated coasters are definitely weird to see, especially a wooden one.
My uncle rode this coaster one time as a boy in the 40's. He told me once was enough. I rode the Comet many times. Those days are over.
Even modern wooden coasters get rough after so many years. Your uncle probably rode this one pretty late into its lifespan and paid the price. A lot of people would give up a lot for that experience though.
Thanks for watching and sharing your memories!
The coasters back then were pretty much death traps.
Interesting to know that you can still ride at least some of this ride even today.
That’s what surprised me most when putting this together. I wonder how many people realize they’re riding on theme park history!
Not sure that is even true and I don't think hundred year old steel or wood from the original Cyclone at Crystal Beach is still in use in 2022 but I might be wrong 🤔
@@jamesharrington1456 I believe some of the track is still being used. But the folks at Great Escape (where it now lives) keep it in top shape.
AFAIK only the first hill of the Cyclone was retained.
Come one, come all and experience Crystal Beach Cyclone!
Sorry for some of the poor image quality on parts of the video-it's tough to get hi-res pictures of a 100-year-old ride. 😬
The coaster at Palisades Amusement Park was called the Skyrocket. Later it was replaced by The Cyclone which was not very good. I rode on it many times.
It would be so sick if RMC remade this for old time sake. The layout is so fitting
It would seriously be an elite RMC!
It’s just a riiiiiiiiiiiiiiide AAAAAAAAAAA
😱
YESS
An rmc rebuild of this would still slap to this day.
No doubt about it!
Or GCI
No way I would want it rebuilt as it was in its original form but with modern safety features
@@ianloeb1672 😂 It sucks that we'll never be able to ride it. I really don't care about my life either.😂
My dad used to tell us about growing up in the 40's in Allentown. There was an amusement park on the edge of town called Central Park. He said it was a wild coaster that a lot of his friends were scared of. They lived about 20 blocks away and every night in the summer you could hear the people screaming on the ride until it sadly burned down. My dad is in his 80s now, he loves coasters so much he's been on just about every coaster east of the Mississippi River. One of the stories he used to tell us was about a hot summer day he and uncle Bob were on a coaster and uncle Bob was screaming so much he lost his dentures. They went on a second time and uncle Bob's shirt was unbuttoned and flew off. Probably one of the times he tried to stand up, he was a little more of a risk taker than most people.
😆 That's hilarious. Sounds like a fun guy to be around! Thanks so much for sharing those memories.
I rode that thing as a kid, man what a ride whipped you around like a ragdoll..
Oh that's amazing. I'm sure you have great stories about it!
Right before Crystal Beach got rid of the Comet they were running it backwards. It remains the most scared I have ever been on an amusement park ride several decades later!!😃
😅 I love when parks pull that off. Would've loved to have experienced that! Thanks for commenting. 😊
No doubt about it, Crystal Beach park was a fantastic place! Sad that it fizzled out in the 80s. Glad to have experienced it in my youth.
Oh that’s awesome! Glad you have so memories at the park 😊
Excellent documentary! I never knew about the noise issues with the ballroom.
The problem with the Cyclone coasters is that they were pulling these extreme stunts without enough support bracing, and with imprecise track profiling. Both of these factors meant they got rough fairly quickly. Modern retracking and reprofiling techniques didn't exist yet, either. Compare the Arrow Dynamics "coat hanger" designs.
One small detail - it was actually the Palisades Cyclone that was built on the more compact plot. 4G's isn't bad for brief intervals.
Thank you! That's a great way to put it. I appreciate it.
@@StorybookAmusement You're welcome. Keep up the good work!
What are your sources? I thought that the reason why the Crystal Beach Cyclone was so rough was that it was shortened to fit in a smaller area
Crystal beach park was my Disney when I was kid.
This layout is just waiting to be rebuilt by gci or the gravity group. We just need one park thats crazy enough to pull through
That figure-eight would be unreal to experience.
Gci should revive this monster with modern tech
Wow super cool. Love seeing the old pictures 😍😍
Thanks! Great work on your recent stuff-the quality is great!
The cyclone was before my time, but I heard many stories of terrifying rides on it from my late father. (His uncle missed a week of work after taking a spin on it- was off with a neck injury). I think the reason for the coaster’s demise was that it was ahead of its time; it would have fit in well with the wild rides that are popular today.
This was very informative for those of us who are too young to remember it. (Its successor- the Comet- was great fun!).
It definitely was ahead of its time in many ways. I'm sure the intensity was a shock for a lot of riders since it was extreme compared to other coasters of the time.
Thanks for watching!
I think RMC can do an exact replica of this historic ride using their steel I-beam track. No one will ever be able to do a wooden duplicate. "What say you?"
It'd be great to see a modern take of this!
Great job. 👏 Really appreciate the work you put into this video. I really enjoyed it.
Thank you!
This is so awesome! I always love learning about the history behind rides and amusement/theme parks.
Glad you liked it! This is definitely a unique one!
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you!
1 ft bunny hills on a coaster sound sadistic! I like it, this looks like RMC or pre-fab Intamin before they were even a thought!
This thing was insane!
I wonder if a modern version could be made today I can definitely imagine RMC doing it
RMC would be the perfect candidate to bring this back to life. Them and GCI.
a highlight of my childhood was when i reached the you must be this tall to tide the comet i liked the magic carpet & laugh in the dark i couldn't get enough sugar waffles
Ah, I love that. Thanks for sharing!
For its time this must've been an absolute beast!
Would’ve been a beast today! But especially then 😯
Great summary. Thanks.
Thank you for watching!
I don’t think I live far from where Crystal Beach used to be, and I’ve always heard stories of the ride from my grandparents... although I think they might’ve been talking about the second one. Either way, this was another amazing chapter! Thanks for sharing!
That’s awesome! Do you remember any specific stories, or just general “it was big and fast” kind of stuff?
Thanks for stopping by, ol’ pal 🤗
@@StorybookAmusement Mostly just how crazy it was haha! And apparently there was accident where it derailed :O
@@AdventuresWithParker that’s crazy if it’s true! There are a lot of tall tales out there about the ride, but it’s hard to pick apart what happened and what didn’t-some stories even conflicting others.
The takeaway is that is was just so insane for its time that it made an impact on everyone!
One interesting Piece of information
Great video. Wish I had a time machine.
If only!
Really enjoyed seeing this older footage. Looks similar to the Cyclone in Coney minus the turns. Great job with this one!
It's just as iconic, for sure! Thank you so much.
the boardwalk bullet has the same kind of intense moments ..kidna of a tribute to that
Good point. Hadn't thought of that comparison!
Great video. Surprised no one has tried to bring it back.
If the comment section here had any say in it, this would've been recreated by now!
Omg the layout is insane!
😮💨 Right?!
Well done! Very accurate.
Thank you!
Things like this make me question time travel. Its like they saw an RMC and tried to recreate it with 1920s technology.
Makes you wonder 👀
Somebody should remake a switchback railway. If I could guess any park that would do it it would be knobles
Would love to see it
If I could go back in time, I would die to ride this
We'll go together!
I grew up near Buffalo, and my family went to Crystal Beach several times in the 60s. I probably rode the comet a hundred times, I would ride it all day. They played Bill Haley and the Comets while on the ride. It was an extra dime to ride it after admission, as I remember.
Oh that sounds like a great time!
I would like to see the gravity group, who has the experience, knowledge, and expertise in buiding great wooden coasters recreate the Crystal Beach Cyclone.
Please send them emails and letters to encourage them for this challenge in recreating the Crystal Beach Cyclone in America !
Start sending letters, emails
That would be amazing to see!
I'd really like to see this design resurrected by either RMC with their topper track or GCI with their new steel track. I think that combined with today's technology it would be very possible to slightly re-profile the trouble spots. There's not doubt that ride looks menacing.
The general layout would work soooo well as a modern coaster. I was wondering the other day what an RMC coaster would look like without Schilke, and this might be the answer.
Thanks for watching!
@@StorybookAmusement I've thought a lot about Traver, he was so ahead of his time but I think the lack of computers of course and the track did these rides in. As far as elements everyone has used them. The swooping angled first drop is a GCI staple. The quick transitions is a RMC staple. The Jazz track renamed Trick Track was seen on CCI coasters. The crazy turn angles are seen by GGI/CCI with Voyage and Ravine Flyer II for example. The steel structure is used by everyone now. IMO the coolest thing that could happen is rebuilding this beast as a nod to the designer that started it all.
@@oblivieon1567 that's the best explination I've ever seen of how ahead of its time this coaster was. You're so right!
@@StorybookAmusement Thanks, you should do a video on it. Like how Traver influence modern roller coaster design.
@@oblivieon1567 Don't forget its tendency to tear itself apart and cause injuries to guests. That element was used by RCCA on Son of Beast.
I believe it was the Palisades Park version that was more compact than the other 2
Oh that's interesting. It's been a while since I've researched for this, but I thought it was the Crystal Beach one that had the compact layout. It's what allegedly made it so much more intense. I wonder why the Palisades Park isn't more infamous in that case. Thanks for sharing!
@@StorybookAmusement Definitely the Palisades Park version was more compact...refer to Munch's Traver book.
NOPE,NOPE, NOPE. That is a coaster of nightmares.
😅 It's a coaster of dreams for some!
Intensity Rating: ULTRA EXTREME
Roller coaster 1 looks too intense for me
@@StorybookAmusementjust looking at Wooden Roller Coaster 1 makes me feel sick!
I remember my Grandfather telling me that they did have a nurse station at the end of the ride and there were more people watching others go on then actual riders ...
Ooooh interesting. Did he ever get to ride?
I always wonder why the park didn’t just shorten the lift hill some. It seemed to have plenty of speed on subsequent hills, so lowering the height could have reduced the speed a bit.
I don't know if the height and speed were an issue as much as the elements themselves. Sure, at a slower speed, it'd be more tolerable, but still extreme nonetheless.
But you also have to remember that the ride operated in the early to mid 20th century. Parks didn't have the finances to make major modifications like that. The industry was a lot different then.
That would be my guess. That's an interesting thought though that never occurred to me. Thanks for commenting.
@Storybook Amusement Nurses are expensive. I think it's an urban legend @ one being on duty...
But a funny one, nonetheless 😄
Awesome video.
Thanks for checking it out!
@@StorybookAmusement your very welcome.
If I ever get an amusement park I'm building a clone of this but with topper track
It'd be unstoppable
OMG that is so interesting :)
Glad you thought so 😊 thanks for watching!
Instead of spending $30 to 40 million to chase the next short standing record, someone (on the shores of Lake Erie ideally) should recreate this coaster. With computer assisted design and the new track types, it would be smooth and safe, but still intense . Attendance records will surely follow.
Certainly! That would be amazing
Honestly, it's high time that GCI recreate the Crystal Beach Cyclone. They're the most experienced in creating twister-style wooden coasters and I feel like they'd really do it justice.
You’re absolutely right!
A credit's a credit
This is a credit A LOT of enthusiasts would kill for
😊That coaster was He'll on wheels
In all the best ways!
Both this and the Coney Island Cyclone opened the same year. The question I have, which one opened first? The second question I have is, couldn't it be called a different name if the after the second one opened 😮??
1:12 there appears to be a Mickey Mouse on the front of these cars. Was this the first Mickey by someone else?
Interesting. So I just traced back the source of that image, and that ride was in Euclid Beach Park, Euclid, Ohio. My guess would be that it was a generic character. But I'm not sure!
Remember, this thing had lap bars. With I305 turns.
Sheesh, that puts it in perspective. I was just on I305 two days ago and can’t even imagine. 😅
@@StorybookAmusement lucky, I’m trying to get there sometime in the next two years or so.
theres also another incident on the cyclone with 6 deaths, one of the kids even got decapitated
How intense was the Crystal Beach Cyclone looks very intense
Looks incredible! Must’ve been a shock compared to other coaster at the time.
13.04 (Ultra-Extreme)
*Tray-ver*
One of your relatives (I assume) sent me a message telling me the same thing haha. I wish I could edit the video after it’s been uploaded!
@@StorybookAmusement Who was it, if you don’t mind me asking? And, nevertheless, you made an awesome video. I personally never new Harry since he’s my dad’s dad’s dad’s dad lol, but it’s cool learning all this stuff about him because I’ve recently been talking to my family about the possibility of starting up the “Traver Engineering Company”, if that’s possible.
*starting up again
@@dylantraver5789 do you know B. [edited for privacy]? Either way, thanks for watching and commenting. 😊 Thats great that you are looking into his legacy and might revive it!
@@StorybookAmusement That’s my aunt haha.
So history about this ride my grandpa told me so this was the most dangerous roller in the entire world operated through 1926-1946 breaking so many bones when riders rode it thank god this ride had closed but my grandpa rode it and well lets just say it didn't go so well
Hi, Dueling Dragons. I miss you. But that's good your grandpa rode it. This one........had a reputation to say the least!
@@StorybookAmusementyes he had rod it he broke his left arm and yes I am still watching my fans
GCI but 70 years too early
If only
i wonder if the CB Cyclone predates the Coney Island Cyclone?
I would like t
Imagine if they RMC’d it
It would be a wonderful RMC or even GCI
Crystal Beach Cyclone looks too intense for me.
Just looking at Crystal Beach Cyclone makes me feel sick.
Your lucky number is 7. You will soar to great heights. Be sure to ride The Cyclone..
I will cherish this information.
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Thank you!
0/10 wouldn't reccomend. Last time i went on here i lost my head and had to do a whole singing competition and everything to be brought back to life
This coaster design and the Virginia Reel coasters (wooden predecessors to today's spinning Wild Mouse steel coasters to those not in the know) are two I would utterly love a "Flying Turns at Knoebels" level of modern day resurrection because both just sound so ahead of their time and rather fun, even for the intensity.
Also the Safety Cyclone's have another living kegacy today aside from Comet. On Shivering Timbers at Michigan's Adventure there exists a recreation of the infamous "trick track" section seen on Traver's rides towards the end of its course (and many have said that it is by far the roughest spot on an already notoriously rough coaster)