Episode 23. A bullet is not a fool. Or six records of Russian gunsmiths
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- In this episode of Combat Approved we will tell you everything about ammunition: its history, design, purpose and practical application. We will debunk the most common myths: for example, we will prove that a bullet with a displaced center of gravity is fiction. Many believe that they first construct a weapon and only then create a bullet for it. In fact, it’s the other way around, and any pistol, rifle, machine gun and sniper rifle is just a tool to deliver ammunition to the target. The Zvezda TV viewers will see the most armor-piercing bullet, the quietest, the most incendiary, the deepest underwater one and, finally, the world's only powder bullet for shooting in space.
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We all are intimidated by the thought of the recoil effect of that shooting knife
I get it.
Lol.
Russians don't waste time ! ...They are always to the Point!
I can't help but notice the high quality ammunition. Those are some good looking cases. I miss the days when you could get 700rds of sealed cans for less than $100. I remember Norinco being cheap but was high quality. When they first started inporting Wolf ammo it was fairly good. Now their good for nothing but plinking with and the accuracy is different for each one. They are not consistent like they were 15 years ago and are dirty ammo now. Can't shoot a whole magazine without needing to run a bore snake down the barrel.
Thank you cancer voice man, I look forward to your next voicing role in gears of War 6.
thanks I had to smoke 2 packs daily for the last 30 years to achieve such smooth sultry voice.
I saw your comment in the first few seconds of the video, and thought, bit harsh mate! Now I understand. He truly is cancer voice man. Not the greatest super power you could roll!
😂😂😂
OPTIMUS PRIME CONSTIPATED!
forget smoking, how many cigarettes does this guy eat a day
I've learned in life that its not the gun , its the ammo.
Perfect example, in WWll, allied pilots were making hits all over German planes, but nothing was happening. But then they changed ammo to API, armor piercing incindery, and that was the game changer. What kind ammo did Soviet air force use in WWll ??
The bullet is not a fool" - a reference to the great Russian commander of the 18th century Alexander Suvorov, who said the famous phrase "the bullet is a fool, the bayonet is great." At that time, the accuracy of the shot and range was low, and the Russian bayonet battle was known throughout Europe
By the end of this video I literally ended up having a sore throat.
You should have watch while sipping a can of 10% alcohol beer
@@capricorn839 Yes, you need to go above 5% before a Russian will consider the drink containing alcohol. 5% beer like I drink is just fizzy pop to them! Maybe even a child's drink.
I like the English voiceover. Thanks man, I didn’t have to read subtitles
From Russia with Love 🇷🇺 ❤
Back when I was into scuba diving I was thinking a lot about an underwater weapon that would kill a large shark if needed. I was thinking of a rocket type projectile that would provide thrust sort of like the Gyrojet types developed in the 60s. I eventually determined the best option was to leave the ocean to the sharks and stay in my own yard on dry land. :)
Spear gun? Knife? C'mon dude
That unnderwater gun is like 45 years old, that's a nice idea to fishing with that or defense, that's waste of protein to kill a big shark..... well if your life is in danger you not thinking like food, shoot and swim away!!
Years ago I saw a doc on some shark hunters. They were using shotgun cartridges on the end of a pole. The 'barrel' looked to be about the same length as the cartridge and it was fired by pressing it onto the sharks head.
@@johnmatchett766
I think they called them Bang Sticks. :)
A rocket type projectile like a spear? Possibly a gun that shoots spears?
I highly admire Russia's forward thinking and ingenuity in developing concepts. I have watched several videos on weapons and weapon systems including one on there new mobile medium range missile system that is very well thought out. They consider every aspect of a system to produce a rugged and very reliable end product. I am very impressed with their efforts.
And they work within constraints that forces them to use physics to make rounds perform better. The 7.62 x 54R has been in use worldwide since 1891 (?) making it the longest serving military cartridge in the world. The Swedish 6.5 x 55 is still relevant today and that was rolled out in 1893.
Unfortunately Russia's forward thinking and ingenuity was solely in military orientation
(In USSR at least, no idea how it's now)
Otherwise USSR was 30 years outdated in everything (because they copied outdated tech and then produced it for 25 years)
We have a proverb: "Bullet is a fool, and a bayonet is a fine fellow". It means that you can miss a target when you shoot by a gun but you cannot miss using a bayonet. Basically, it means the bayonet is more reliable. It was said by a famous Russian general in the 18th century. In the 18th century, rifles couldn't shoot straight so this sentence was correct.
It's more reliable the bayonet and close-quarters fighting but if somebody knew what they're doing the start was you can always Reach Out And Touch him but I like in hand I like close in combat hand-to-hand mano a mano
Aleksander Suvorov. And the French of the time, and even into the early 20th century, tended to see a rifle as primarily the platform for a bayonet.
Especially with russian doctrine of the time which was of cheaper smooth bore muskets which were easier to make for the unskilled serfs of tula
Fuck it. Let’s just go back to kolling each other with rocks. Cheaper and we won’t fuck up the planet and extinguish humanity in the process.
This quote is also known in South America "La bala es loca, la bayoneta es sabia". Probably from times of Simon Bolivar? Quien sabe?
See this is why I like Russian weapons. Cheap, reliable, and gets the job done. I really like how y'all have advanced so far into your weapons and ammo.
4:48 well, that gave me a weird anxiety, like really hard. Russians really trust their material and the man next to them, to the fullest.
This is one of the best videos I think I've seen it in a long time very interesting and very educational
Damm u guys are better than discovery and nat geo
far better and more educative info
I love my lacquered and sealed 7.62 and 5.45. With the price of 5.56 right now, I'm shooting my Aks a lot.
Sadly at least here in Oregon the steel case 7.62x39 is becoming as much as brass 5.56
Dumb for practicing something you already know how to do. I'd be saving ammo.
@@spocker22 I've been saving more than shooting. Want to get rid of some of my Tula. I'm not really shooting any of my good lacquered ammo.
@@paulschab8152 let em build a stockpile to lower prices
Nobody is buying the 5.56 at the local store because it's $20 for 20 rounds. There is a stockpile there and they are not lowering the prices. I think these prices will be the new normal for a while to come.
The first self contained silenced cartridge was first used by the US in Vietnam. The fully silenced .44 magnum based round contained all propulsion gases within the casing and was used by the tunnel rats.
There was also a 40mm Grenade that could be fired from an M79 that used a steel diaphragm to contain the gasses. It was almost silent. Unfortunately, the 40mm grenade was not.
No!!! Only Russia.🤣😂
The Russians are playing with our 50 year old technology and call themselves more advanced.
@@joshsmith7176
The idea probably came from so item picked-up during the Viet Nam conflict and just now becomes invented in Russia, like Checkov from Star Trek.
@@joshsmith7176 lol you really think they are that primitive? I don’t think Russia is far behind US if at all. I mean they made the strongest bomb EVER in 1961. Made our atom bomb look like a pimple. Over 1,570 times more powerful than the combined two bombs dropped off Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Its really nice to see the inside of the Tula ammo factory. I've shot so much of their ammo thats allowed me to enjoy shooting many times.
Never had one not go bang!
Loving the intro.. Its so Hollywood with so much recoil control
Russia's always got some top notch hardware 👍👍
also love how combat approved takes footage and sound from, Vickers Tactical and half life
I love how he walks in front of the muzzle... 😆 😆
Love the gravelly voiced narrator, and the so called, this is classified, mentality. Fun to watch though. Entertainment.
Many use that ammo regardless of the economic or political environment, because bi-metal ammo made in Russia is top quality material (steel cases protected by blue or lacquer simply reduce cost of production that much more) From one who has a diverse shooting background including long range KD,(600-1,000 yards)
Got to love Russian weapons and aircraft design....very clever, sturdy and effective always. Working on US aircraft engine development we had some Russian engines in the back for 'examination' and damn...they were cleverly designed! Some of our people thought the Russians were crude but there was genius in those engines...though their metallurgy and coatings weren't as finely developed as ours which results in a shorter lifespan in service. We actually stole (uh...imitated?) some design features that were just too clever to not use on our developing engines, though I don't know how much of it made it to the production engine in the F-22.
I would not care to go up against the Russians in a fight....not at all. We probably could win the first encounters with our superior technology but in a protracted engagement our equipment would not continue to perform while the Russian's would do what they do all day for as long as it takes. Hat's off my Russian friends!
25:50 "Scout knife with a surprise. You a Spetsnaz?". Solid Snake from MGS2 =D
Froggy from the Little Rascals has a new gig, apparently..
👍 Отличная идея, - создать канал для англоязычной аудитории! Создан только в прошлом году, а уже показывает рекордную динамику развития! С ЦНИИТОЧМАШ работал в далеком 2004 году, и отрадно видеть, что молодые тогда ребята, стали уже начальниками отделов!
Только с журналистом они напортачили, он тут не в тему. Дергается при выстреле, жмурится, сразу видно совершенно неопытный человек. портит картину.
Sometimes collecting the ammo is just as much fun as collecting the firearm I wonder how many different 7.62x39 there is around the world feel real safe with a crater too next to my bed 😎❤️
The host is actually Ted Bundy who was never executed for his crimes but was sent to a Siberian gulag. He made parolski.
4:49 the guy crossed in front of the loaded gun. lol 😂
they dont care in russia , Safty dose not come first like in USA and Europe
Highly doubt a gun in a vise will accidentally discharge. And not a fact it was loaded. The cut scene with the charging handle being actuated could have been moved during editing of the video.
ROFL LMAO "When it was discovered that NATO divers were firing underwater... //Scuba Sergei picks up underwater notebook//..." hahahahahahahahahahaha
Hristos se rodi!!! Keep on the good work you beautiful brainiacs you!
Don't underestimate Stalinium
Lifo of boris tought me about stalinium😆
@FORMER K.G.B. life of boris is something else.. check it out.. funny
@FORMER K.G.B. how was it?
Im a big fan..
Cracks me up everytime
@FORMER K.G.B. boris Johnson
Is that similar to Chinesium?
I like the low visibility casings, great idea!
The cases are steel with a coating (used to be a laquer) cheaper to make since in the field they are thrown away not reloaded.
@@yfelwulf that's what I ment, less obvious than a pile of shiny casings:)
The classic old school type of presentation is superb great idea alexy
The way they fire that pistol knife is scary. Especially considering that they also produced ballistic spring loaded knives, where pressing a button makes the knife fly out the front.
3:56 Larry Vickers slow-mo cut, where 5.45 bullet was key-holing.
I saw that lnao
Casting director: How manly should the voice-over speaker sound?
Producer: Da!
Back in the 60's, I used to go fishing at night with a flashlight and a Colt Woodsman 22 lr Pistol. It didn't have much range, but it would also clean the fish in the process, just blind the fish with the flashlight and bang! The pistol would cycle under water.
I'm pretty sure I've seen videos on youtube where people shoot ak-47s under water too. I'm not sure why the video would make the claim that it's exceptionally difficult for a gun to do this.
The claim for shooting guns in space was also very bizarre. The only thing special about space is that it's cold, so any gun designed to work at extremely low temperatures will work just fine in outer space. An old revolver from the civil war would probably work in space.
2:43-3:00 lol! The body launguage between "aggressive propagandist interviewer" and "nervous weapons expert" basically, in a nutshell, sums up my perception of what I think a Government job in Russia looks like. xD
Very interesting video!
Well worth watching! Thank you!
I bet the Russians put those space guns on all their "WEATHER SATALITES"
You guys have some great toys. I would truly love to try them.
Can you guys do reviews of things like Russian ballistic missiles or other early warning radars. Or things like that🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
well you gotta understand that some things are and will be for the near or further future a Military Secret , no matter the interest of the viewers .And another thing just to mention , these few ammo types and weapons are already Declassified and were made before the '90s , almost all of them .If they start showing what is being invented , tested or already in Special Services adopted from let's say 1996 till today , we'll be scratching our heads in disbelief and confused like Apes , I believe.
There are episodes of this program about the topics you've mentioned in Russian. Don't know why they were not translated. You can find them on UA-cam by searching for военная приёмка
@@dejandimoski4605 Yeah that's true😅
@@RandomCoffee101 Ahh alright
Voice of speaker like batman :D
Throws lid into the water
Ive never heard of the 545 having a "displaced center of gravity"
This feature Alone makes it a efficient killer
I read this before. It has an empty tip, and behind the hollow, the steel core
And that's why they said it doesn't have one pay attention
@@jozseftoth9368 They have to keep it balanced along its length otherwise it loses all accuracy
@@jozseftoth9368 -That's why it was good at penetrating barriers too. The idea of no HO or BT anno in combat sounds like Nancy Pelosi penned it. We can't get them anymore though. Just nonsense. We're buying oil from them now.
Knives are great what is great about them is what is at the other end I like the Knife gun you have blade at one end you have gun at the other end.
The "homing bullet" was something the US made in the late 1980s. Its pointless when you have sufficient quality control in projectile manufacture and highly accurate computerized scopes.
Хорошо. Хорошо сделали, работали. Good work
27:49 "A weapon to surpass Metal Gear"
The guy announcing....SATURDAY SATURDAY SATURDAY!!!! COME ON DOWN SATURDAY FOR MONSTER TRUCK MAAAAAANIA SATURDAY!!!!
Had to fire up a cigarette while watching this... 🚬
Fantastic documentary.
We are now officially on the FBI's watch list after watching this video to the very end.
Snake? Snake?!? SNNNNAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE!!??!?!
15:42 Legit thought they were about to play that song from red alert.
Every gunpowder bullet could fire in space
Yes I don't know why they said firing in space would be harder, considering there is barely any air to slow down the bullet. If anything you have like 20x the range assuming you have 20x the accuracy too lol
@@iwankozowski5621......not only that but the gunpowder doesn't need air to burn because it is a fuel and oxidizer in one........lots of people said the gunpowder wouldn't work because there is no air for it to burn LOL
@@midbc1midbc199 Well, unless the case has holes in it, it wouldn't be burning air even on Earth so yeah I completely agree lol
Any cartridge will ignite and propel the bullet out into space. But what ratio of the mass of a bullet and gunpowder should be in order not to knock off course and not to twist the apparatus firing in conditions of zero gravity without a fulcrum, how the reloading mechanism should work, how parts of the weapon should be cooled in a vacuum. In what temperature ranges does the weapon itself work and how ammunition behaves in these temperature regimes.
But internet experts know better than dumb gunsmiths.
@@svetlana__-cc2xh......I am pretty sure in space there is always going to be some rotational force 0n the object
18:00 Even though steel cartrige is cheaper, it has problems, in some guns it jams
And you can't reuse that cartrige if you are reloading cases in your own shop (like some Americans do).
No if a gun can't run steel it doesnt deserve brass ur gun should be able to run all ammo otherwise i would not buy it. And u can reload steel 1 time many people have. unlike brass u can reload it multiple times.
Something is wrong with your gun if it can't shoot steel. You can reload steel it just harder on your dies and cannot be reloaded to many times.
it has problems, in some guns it jams ................ new AK's don't Jam lest start with that you guys in USA don't know that becouse you can't import them , however we can import new AK's in Poland , they are simply amazing , as a Polish Person I don't like russia but i have to admit Russian made Ak's are best Personal wepons you can have atm
@@khaledaboizzat not true u dont know what ur even talking about. We get polish import aks. We are importing mini beryl aks right now. Wbp polish manufactured imports in america. I own a russian ak ishmash. Also saiga and veprs imports witch just recently was stopped because of sactions on russian wepons last year . Not to mention serbian zastava ak. Romanian cugir aks. So yes we have import aks. But american psa aks and arsenal bulgarian aks are best.
@@khaledaboizzat and ak47 jam more than ar15s in many instances. Inrange tv did mud test on both. Ar15s won hands down. And russian wepons are mediocre at best.
23:00 Now that is a bad ass sniper rifle!
Very interesting episode. 👌
I really hope there is an Indonesian translation in each version, because I really like this channel channel ❤️❤️
it's like in indonesia that military control all bullets manufacturing. Different in US, private manufacturing can produce bullet without military control
I have lots of Tula, red army standard and a few others of Russian ammo of 7.62x39. Good stuff.
Some miss information, They are comparing the Russian AP round to a FMJ. FMJ have lead cores. I know a AP 50 cal would pierce 1/2" boiler plate. The 50 FMJ would put one hell of a crater unless the plate has been hardened. Never shot steel over 1/2" . The 50APIT or any other APIT will not ignite a propane bottle, at least not for me. I think the round passes through too fast. It the steel is thick enough to slow it down or bounce around it would ignite. But I found a double tap produces the desired result. But in any case I like Russian people. In the Crimea the women are beautiful and the men are men, no BSTSEFG???? there!
No missinformation here. I think you misunderstood something.
30:09 "Noone in the world has an underwater firing pistol, only Russia"
Umm, H&K P11?
yea but hhk is shhiitt frogmmaan cant rrelloudd pistol byy it sellf yoou muust sent iit bback to hk[producer] to put new rounds..expensive sloow in war time usles...
They probably mean in service
@@majahorvat6279 I never knew that, that is so fucking stupid. And yet it is used.
One Kettle bell is not enough! We need two of them...
In the jungle a larger caliber is better. Of course, through the leaves, in Vietnam from 10-15m distance you do not see differences, even Colt 1911 is deadly, the problem occurs when the enemy does not wait to be shot but hides behind the trees. A 7.62 projectile kills you after 20cm of wood while a 5.45 does not.
Not necessarily true. There is a video floating around about a guy shooting through trees with both. And 5.45 had better went through where 7.62 didn't.
@@ilyal3177 in Vietnam almost all soldiers want a ww2 rifle. More than that, today if you want to shoot trough thinks you'll choices will be a .50 cal, not a .22.
@@ciprianganea759 false. Unless you're planning to shoot through thick concrete walls or armored vehicles at distances 1000m or beyond you do not need a .50 cal. There are much better and cheaper solutions for ranges up to 1000m. Which gives me an impression that your small arms experience is highly limited.
@@ilyal3177 I said before if you want to shoot trough trees. So, the momentum of 7.62 is bigger even if the energy is slightly similar.
Sweet baby jebus this is impossible to watch or even listen to.
I think it's throat cancer
I tried, I really did. Couldn't make it past 7:00
Really? Sounds too much like propaganda? Rah Rah Sis koombah?
Too much "we're the greatest!"?
How American.
@@coreys2686 I think he was referring to the wannabe Solid snake narration
PUSSY!!!
THIS IS LEGIT AS FUUUUUUUUUUU
Fit more cartridges in a magazine? They both go in 30 round mags.
Yeah, when you view practically anything technical about firearms, you have to weigh whether the curious and/or unbelievable stuff is to hide actual technical features or the result of the ignorance of the narrators and videographers. Go back and look at the primer detail of the "silent" pistol round. There is no actual conventional anvil, and the flash hole is so large the primer would be immediately blown out of the case, especially the increased back pressure caused by the closed case. The silent pistol round as explained seems to defy basic physics. It just can't work. As to the satellite gun, why not just use a recoiless design? NO RECOIL PROBLEMS, IVAN!
from Vietnam. love Russia
Whats with the constipated voice?
Lol
Pinching a loaf while narrating
20 years of Russian cigarettes.
Silly ..there is a sports radio host in the US with a similar voice...big deal
Due to biting a huge cigar
13:20 Of course the west has made similar ammo.
The 6.5x25 cbj of sweden and the 7.92x24mm vbr of belgium for example are easily comparable,if not BETTER,and the 5.7x28 and 4.6x30mm both have some very hot AP ammo as well,while the CIVILIAN 7.5 fk brno has amazing power for it's type.
@Max S I know about russia,and the u.s,using sabotaged ammo stores,west germany found some in theirs at the end of the cold war,but I have never heard of russia doing what you said.
Interesting.
@@krisguntner4805 they are most definitely doing it. I've shot some cartridges out of some old soviet era guns that it wasn't intended to shoot.
If you use the 7N31 in your glock or berreta, the gun will get destroyed, so yea its the only one in its type
You are missing the point. Russians made it cheaply, consistently, and standard issue for respective purposes. Western stuff is unicorn category: expensive and scarce. Capitalism.
Good presentation.
Ammo is so expensive in US that it could be selling like cocaine, in tons
Interesting weapons, wish they told more about ballistic and other details, or even nuclear stuff. Russian documentaries about weapons are just great; always something new, advanced, effective weapons working well, aren't used for invasions like US's Afghanistan, etc. Still, everyone uses them. Carry on Russian brothers!
I love Russians! Everything is gun!🤣
Early M-16s did not have chrome lined bores and shot out very quickly under the "spray and pray" tactics taught then. Smooth bore = tumbling bullet soon after it leaves the muzzle. Nothing to do with the cartridge, and everything to do with the firearm itself.
On the next episode of Dragunov Ball Z
Vychlop is so cool, i'd own one if i could, even though i don't know what else i could use it for, save for plinking. Too specialized. But. Soo fucking cool. The cousin vintorez as well.
Childhood dreams.
Those silenced cartridges look very interesting. Its something from the last century they are reinventing again. Its like reinventing the wheel, but there is a big potential in this silenced cartridge.
Greetings,
Jeff
It sounds like Solid Snakes trying to do an impression of Solid Snake
There is no secret, the core is tungsten. Hence, the sparks.
It wasn't a gel but strong soap which is more difficult to incindirate
My father took a round from a Ruski on the streets of Budapest in 1956 . Got shot by a 7.62x25 out of a PPSh 41. went in his side and worked it's way out his shoulder/neck area. He spent awhile recovering in a cellar . He's damn lucky.
Fun fact: The english narrator is doing the same thing with his voice as SteveO from Jackass.
Essentially, he's using his throat muscles more than he should, forcing the tones out with his throat rather than with his vocal cords.
If he's doing this involuntarily, it could some day lead to problems with his voice. Just search for "Why my voice is so messed up Steve O"
WONDERFUL
Heckler and Koch developed a underwater gun however I think it was a pistol AND reloading was only possible by returning the gun the H and K.
Nothing like a bit of propaganda in the morning.
When you are trying to get people to like the 5.45.
So they have shot a weapon in space! Have they had a Cosmonaut try that on the moon? Oh right, they have never been there.
Actually the original M16 with a 55 gr bullet 3000 fps and barrel twist of 1 in 14 did produce such injuries. Combat reports prove its effectiveness it was discontinued on the false basis the rifle was inaccurate the injuries produced were terrifying and fatal. I'm old enough to remember the Vietnamese were so terrified of it they threatened to take the US to task over violation of the Geneva Convention. Read the Black Rifle part 1 for FIELD REPORTS on its effectiveness
Thats why the russians saw what the 556 did and came up with the 545.
I also read this, in one shootout, the 5,56 mm bullet tore off the vietnamese guys arm from the shoulder, and smashed him back to the ground with such force that he bounced off. However, due to the nature of the bullet, it richocheted off any small obstacles it touched, like they mentioned, grass, or leaves
@@yellowneck92 the 5.45 is different it's designed to penetrae NATO body Armour. Forgotten Weapons and In Range tried all 5.56 types on Russian body armour at 15 metres around 17 yards with total failure the 5.45 will penetrate around 100m+ or 110+ yards. The bullet will tumble after penetration making a larger wound bigger than its actual size it also won't break up after penetration as the 5.56 does
7.62 is way better thru brush than 5.45
In space, bullets must be traveling almost for an infinite distance ? No gravity. No friction. Nothing
Thanks for the english, now please where can I get some hot 7.62x25 for my Tokarve TT33-C?? Tennessee
Look for red army standard. Likely the hottest you'll find on the US market. Don't get the surplus. Bought a batch just to check it out. Yes it's hot but when 50%+ with cracked necks you'd be wasting money and damaging the chamber/barrel if you do decide to shoot the split necks
they are proud that they can light Diesel tank on fire
I LOVE MY 7N6, CHEAP ACCURATE AND ALWAYS GOES BOOM.
Awesome video
10:19: Most of them employ this principle, yes, but there are some cartridges, which does not require a primer, as the propellant is electrically ignited (see the Voere VEC-91 sniper rifle for example).
That was tried around 30 years ago with supposed benefits of improved lock time and consistency of firing. The Ammo never sold and the rifles disappeared
@@yfelwulf The ammo never sold due to a high price and unavailability, but still: the statement is wrong.
well the military never adopted the technology
@@wongjowo9152 Extra cost and no benefit over a reliable system
He is definitely talking about conversational ammunition not a one off prototype round. I'm pretty sure you can also ignite the powder by superheating the casing with a laser but we won't be using that type of rounds now will we? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Plain and simple.