The way he was leaning into or should I say away from the turns, you could tell it was only a matter of time before he crashed. Combination of fear and riding above your skill level will get you every time.
The rider gets into the turn riding above his skill level, straightens up in the deepest part of the curve, looks at the side of the mountain, and rides into the side of the mountain.
I'm glad he was okay. From the beginning of the video, it's apparent that he was trying to ride _way_ outside his skill level. Trying to keep pace with other, more skilled, riders is a huge reason why more inexperienced riders crash. Ride your own ride, and don't worry about what other riders are doing.
I’ve been racing motorcycles all my life and I’m 62 now and never could understand why guys like that try to go fast on a road that has a reputation of crashing
I am older than you. They go fast because that road is the disneyworld of great motorcycle roads for riding a fast sportbike. and its the end of the road for those riding a tractor.
@@taterlysaladman9377 ...you sir, are a horses ass. Yes, i said horses ass. To many things here worth noting that went wrong from the start. This road is known for people breaking the law. As such, the police are there always to catch those that do. The idiot filming was almost close enough to riding his ass, to catch a wiff of the toilet paper he last used. Someone riding my ass like that, i'll pull over, slow down, and wave them around. It's not how fast you go, but, in making the trip. You want to go fast, go ahead. But, when i get down the road, and find you laying in a ditch, I'll still be nice enough to stop and give you a hand. I want the pleasure of the trip, not laying in a ditch. Speed kills. It's just that easy. Please be kind, use good judgement, and realize not everyone looks for speed in getting somewhere. Scottishxpride, Texas.
gosh, do you even ride bikes? No one will be able to park their bikes on that spot, their bikes will just fall to the right side if they try to leave them on kick-stands. They asked if harley rider needs help and then moved to the closest spot where they can leave their bikes on kick-stands.
If the Harley guy just let this guy pass him. This wouldn’t have happen. He started feeling like he was being when this guy catches up to him. Harleys don’t have the same lean angle as sport bikes. I ride a 2020 street glide.
@@PetroDobrynin If it was me and the guy was in real trouble I'd have made a U-turn and parked on the sidestand alongside him facing the other way,. I ride a Suzuki M1800R. Time matters if you're wedged under 350kg of hot metal.
Ive been going to the dragon for years. I love the place. Ive never seen even so much as an argument at CROT or any other place. Everyone is there for the same thing and its great. That being said there are those that tend to ride beyond their capabilities. Ive seen both baggers and sport bikes do this. So please stay in your own lane! And for the Harley Davidson parade division that seems to always be at the dragon these days I would ask that if your going to ride at parade speed then at least dont leave 20 at a time. Its annoying. You can actually ride it by yourself ya know. And hells bells pick up the pace just a little or pick another rode to ride. I literally have video of bicycles out running a herd of Harleys up hill on the dragon. OK thats just sad right there.
Worst problem of HD riders. Riding about 5 feet apart at maybe 30 mph. Not leaving room between you to allow others to pass, is just being assholes. You block the road like bicycle boys. You know what you are doing. Just stop or ride on some interstate highway.
@@taterlysaladman9377 I was riding to Mammoth Cave in Kentucky a couple of years ago when we, my wife was my pillion, encountered a group of maybe 20 plus Harleys clogging a narrow state highway. They were blocking and were well aware of it as I saw them actively block people from passing. I got up close to them on my FJR and passed the first cluster putting myself in between and before they realized I was in their midst I passed the rest of them. I don't know if they had novices with them or what the situation was but what I did wasn't reckless they were going between 35 & 45 mph on roads designed for much faster speeds. It gives everyone else on motorcycles a negative image. Not everyone who rides HD is that way but there's enough of them to create that image so that they get lampooned, most notably by "South Park."
Drove by the 30 MPH sign like a boss and the Go Pro is very clear soooooooo this should be a good wreck to watch and learn from! What could possibly go wrong speeding on narrow roads and limited sight lines with traffic in the opposite direction?!
I discovered that road in 1975. They didn't call it the dragon and the speed limit was 55. Reminded me of West Virginia's State Highways, except most roads in WV are nicely banked. Still, I wrote to Road Rider magazine to recommend it to anyone going to the Smokies. I don't think I'll go back - too many other roads...
I've ridden the dragon four times on a Road King, V-Strom 1000, ST1100, and a V-Star 1300. All; the big cruisers have limited cornering clearance, but I think this rider just was scared to lean over any more. Good to learn to brake before the turn.
I stop on that corner to smoke cigars and watch folks. The dragon is fun but you just can't get in over your head. Better to go slow and save the embarrassment of wrecking or worse hurting someone.
He was wide on every curve prior to going off. This curve wasn’t even that tight of a radius. He exited wide in the preceding right bend which put him off line on entry to the left, and he was sitting straight up on the bike. 90% of these types of crashes are riders not looking far enough ahead into the turn.
stupid is as stupid does. unfortunately HD riders clog up the whole dragon most weekends. usually about 5 feet apart, with half of them not knowing shit about how to ride a motorcycle, but they live to clog the dragon and get the slayer tshirt.
@@malcom59 No, he just needs to learn how to ride a bike. He failed to understand "counter steer." Push left, go left, push right go right. When he tried to stay out of the ditch he tried to steer the bike to the left making it turn right straight toward the ditch. Turning left is the same as pushing with the right grip, thereby causing the bike to go right.
I ride a Softail Deluxe, and have no desire to challenge it on something like the Dragon. That's what God made sportsbikes for. Harleys ain't sportsbikes.
It's not a problem if you ride within your limits, and the bike's limits. I just rode it on my Road Glide Ultra... no problem. Rode it 5 times in 2 days. It's not magic, it's just a road. Ride within your bike's limitations.
@@andrewjackson9698 if you are going less than 45 or 50 in some parts, you might be holding up the folks that should be on the dragon. this creates the problem between the oil and the water. harleys are the slowly moving oil, and sport bikes are the water. The dragon is a very sporty road. It's just not very good for tractors or trailers
I've been on the Dragon 6 times, 3 times with my Road King and then 3 times with my Street Glide. Like any challenging road, ride within your capabilities and respect those who want to pass you. It's just a road.
@@taterlysaladman9377 I had exactly two sportbikes pass in the 5 times I rode it. Nobody was being held up..I eased over and waved them on, and they passed quickly and safely. I had to slow down a little bit behind cars a couple of times, just like on any other winding road. This is not a racetrack for squids, it's a public road. Respect it and ride it safely...it's a blast. I probably averaged 40 to 45 mph, but I was watching the road, not the speedometer...
It really looked like he was leaning his body OUT of the turns, forcing his bike to have to lean even further in. At some point that approach straight up failed. What always surprises me is when people crash on the NON-tight corners. Just fix on that wall of dirt and go for a visit. Look THROUGH the turn. The bike knows where it IS. You need to know where it is GOING.
The problem is not the road or is reputation ,is that some riders shouldn't ride at the dragon ( if you aren't I experience rider ) that road is not for beginners or average rider ( if you aren't respect the speed limit) at the dragon there is room for mistakes , I can say that because I have being going there for the last 10 years usually in May ,July and September, some of the local are a fast rider the best way is to let them go by, just be careful over there, be safe and enjoy one of the most great road in the country.
He didn't know how to counter steer or he would've easily made that corner. Looks like he froze up at the last minute and just drove straight off the road.
I'm taking my Can Am F3S Roadster this year. I'm getting old and three wheels with stability control is way more relaxing for me. No way I'm riding my 850lb motorcycle. Stay safe y'all.
I'm guessing it did it all Wrong the years I rode my 1981 Lowrider from 1981-2000. I wasn't riding fast like my asshole was on fire. I liked to tour and enjoy the Scenery, not Guess at what the Blurry was.
When I hit a curve like that sometimes I'll drag my rear brake very lightly it helps when your cornering and squat your bike to handle the curve better
Actually it's the opposite. Gently applying the front brake will suppress the forks providing additional traction, but only at the beginning of the curve. Applying the rear brakes will not make the bike "squat" as you say.
I stopped riding, lost a friend (mother of 2) afew days ago 2 weeks ago my buddy got side swiped broke ribs pretty beat up but ok. Done, to many careless driver's im taking up fishin. Both accidents on fort st. in Michigan couple miles apart. Be careful
He was watching ACE their in his mirror when he needed to be total focus on the RD . Ace was overtaking shame ...biggest hazard on the road is other bikers .
Ace had nothing to do with it. Harley riders expect faster riders on roads like this. Just back it off, stay in the right half of the lane, and wave the faster traffic on when safe. Harleys are great bikes as long as they are ridden within their limitations.
He should have called it quits when he bought a tractor. Not made for sporting. Don't drive your wheelchair out on the Indy 500 track. It's not for you.
I have a friend who likes to clean ditches...He'd always come out the other side though. Pulling branches and weeds out of his bike while going down the road.
Read thru a lot of the comments, and a few things occur to me...1) the reason to watch a vid like this is to learn; if you just want carnage, there are better sights for that (they have clickbait thumbnails) 2) many have made certain stretches of road infamous, identified by equally descriptive names: the Dragon...the Snake...realize any older road/byway that follows a river, ridge line, or ascends/descends a pass is going to be epic. When you fail to anticipate roads of such caliber are everywhere (perhaps around the next corner) you become complacent, and will be caught unawares. 3) don't blame the equipment, the tires, the roadway. It is best to assume an accident is rider error (yes, even if you are hit) as to think otherwise implies we've nothing to learn from the experience...hit gravel? Should have seen/anticipated it. Got sideswiped? Should have anticipated, yielded or gotten out of harms way, etc. I ride a 2002 FZ1 running Shinko Ravens (infamously cheap tires) and I do almost no "slab time" (my favorite roads are paved backwoods logging and BLM roads)...the road surface is generally chip-n-seal/poorly maintained asphalt, they often contain debris, and site lines are generally un maintained (at best). One can ride a very brisk pace on such roads if one has the skill, focus, and enough experience...although a full bagger is likely going to be a handful in such conditions which then begs the question: why ride it there at all? Part of being a "good rider" is knowing your skill level, your bikes capabilities, and the limitations of both. Perhaps trying to fulfill a bucket list isn't what riding is about. And for those who lost a friend/loved one to a motorcycle accident, I am sorry for your loss, but one must realize that it is a dangerous pastime. One should never forget that, and if that had not occurred prior, perhaps one should not have been riding in the first place. Before you accuse me of being a heartless troll realize I lost my father to a motorcycle accident. He was coming up out of Lakeview, Or, traveling to the "Sound of Thunder" when he lost control of his cruiser at a significant rate of speed. He was also wearing one of those POS "Skid Lids" (and let's just say it wasn't an 'open casket'). He had a lifetime of riding experience. Was it bad judgement? Road debris? Mechanical issue? No one will ever know now. The only thing we can learn from such is that life is dangerous: it will kill you in the end. Mitigate your time as best as you see fit. For me, death goes hand in hand with life. It can be sudden, even tragic, but don't fool yourself that it isn't always looking over your shoulder...I ride because it is part/parcel of life for me (approaching 50yrs in the saddle). I've had friends die, I've had family die, but I will continue to ride until I cannot anymore...but that is a choice that everyone must make for themselves.
I hear you. Life comes at you fast. Being impaired is not the way to ride, but maybe it hurts less while you're laying there. Kind of pre-game for the crash. Ride safe out there.
Harley (cruiser) riders who crash thinking they can ride like a sports bike rider, are no worse than a sports bike rider who thinks he/she is an undiscovered Moto GP hero 😬
I did it last year 2 up on mine. I had a great time and was passing plenty of other bikes. A bike only goes through the dragon as slow as the riders skill allows.
If the dude's under his bike, you stop *right there* hit your 4-ways and get the f*******g bike off of him! You don't screw around looking for the perfect parking spot. "You alright? Yeah, gimme a hand I'm stuck!" Proceeds to follow the other boardhead to the far side of the road.
You shouldn't be doing a lot of shit you do. Tracks are run by idiots and they let young punks pass on the inside. And charge you $300 or more and have inspection at 7 AM. I am still on the shitter at 7. Fuk that.
Watched this several times, the Harley was not that much off the line as what the sport bike was following him, would bet a sandwich the Harley guy felt the sport bike breathing down on him and was wondering how in the hell an MC that cost 1/3 of what he paid is fixing to eat his lunch and was focused on his mirror instead of the curve he straightened out and ran off of.
You seem to be going very fast. What happens if a deer jumps out in front of you. The tree's are very close to the road. The Harley guy the way he was doing the corners must have been a new rider.
Good to watch these videos and learn from their mistakes....I ride a 2018 Fat Bob and I’m a new rider and find it easy to turn....just know your limits and don’t be afraid to lean in
Pride was his biggest enemy here. He was trying to keep up with experienced riders and payed the price. No shame in being a novice rider. You will get there soon enough so make sure you and your bike make it to that point. I would rather get to where I'm going a little later than to not get there at all and have the humiliation of having your friends and strangers picking you and your busted up bike out of the ditch.
Old Pilots Saying... First And Foremost Fly The Plane! Same With Bike ... Don't let some ass hole push you past your limits! Peace ... Duane Cole...Great Pilot had a few beers with him at a fly - in in Wisconsin. ;-)))
I don't know where he's at but not deals gap. No 180 degree turns. Also the dragon is Loaded with bikes and cars. Nobody crazy enough to be pulling a boat up it.
I was waiting for the POV to wipe out. Instead, it was the guy in front of him who basically pulled his lunch pail. Obviously a newbie. Your ego will get you killed every time.CRASHING SUCKS 😡
old guys crack me up. Joe ; hey John lets go buy a couple Harleys and go riding. John ; I don't know how to ride. Joe; nothing to it, like riding a bicycle. John'; I'm in, let's go . Route 66 is nice, flat and straight. Joe; oh no, that is boring let's do the Tail of the Dragon.
2003 Road King. 120mph. 1986 FXRP. 95 mph. 1999 Road King. 110mph 7X.1986 VFR700, 155 mph. 1998 Vmax. 138 mph. 2003 VFR 800. 145 mph. No wobble of death. 52 years riding, having owned 42 motorcycles. Clearly not educated on motorcycles. Alcohol and riding do not mix. You are the only one I have ever seen in print or heard state that all Harley's have a death wobble. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@@umarkedreturn8776 no need to state your resume. I've had more bikes than you mostly Ducati's. I have a Harley T-Sport and it has the death wobble. Look it up man, Harley Davidson is the worst handling motorcycle ever made. They are nothing but bar hoppers.
The way he was leaning into or should I say away from the turns, you could tell it was only a matter of time before he crashed. Combination of fear and riding above your skill level will get you every time.
The rider gets into the turn riding above his skill level, straightens up in the deepest part of the curve, looks at the side of the mountain, and rides into the side of the mountain.
Target fixation.
Like your videos Jerry Palladino. Your a great teacher.
Good thing he's not an aircraft pilot, with that skill set.
I was told by an old biker, where you look it where it goes.
Why would you push yourself on a beautiful ride like that? Slow down and enjoy it.
The faster you go, the more fun you have. Try the twisty roads of Europe.
The faster you go the less you see speed kills slow down and catch some bugs
Agreed 👍
If that Jackass was riding any slower he could have walked it faster... Problem is he had NO IDEA HOW TO RIDE THAT BIKE
@@joachimwenz557 A Harley really isn’t a “twisty” bike.
I'm glad he was okay. From the beginning of the video, it's apparent that he was trying to ride _way_ outside his skill level. Trying to keep pace with other, more skilled, riders is a huge reason why more inexperienced riders crash. Ride your own ride, and don't worry about what other riders are doing.
How many people fast foreward this to get to crash? Sure glad I did.
lol
I’ve been racing motorcycles all my life and I’m 62 now and never could understand why guys like that try to go fast on a road that has a reputation of crashing
I am older than you. They go fast because that road is the disneyworld of great motorcycle roads for riding a fast sportbike. and its the end of the road for those riding a tractor.
But it is not true, that road has never ever crashed at all!
@@taterlysaladman9377 ...you sir, are a horses ass. Yes, i said horses ass. To many things here worth noting that went wrong from the start. This road is known for people breaking the law. As such, the police are there always to catch those that do. The idiot filming was almost close enough to riding his ass, to catch a wiff of the toilet paper he last used. Someone riding my ass like that, i'll pull over, slow down, and wave them around. It's not how fast you go, but, in making the trip. You want to go fast, go ahead. But, when i get down the road, and find you laying in a ditch, I'll still be nice enough to stop and give you a hand. I want the pleasure of the trip, not laying in a ditch. Speed kills. It's just that easy. Please be kind, use good judgement, and realize not everyone looks for speed in getting somewhere. Scottishxpride, Texas.
@@scottishpride7511 That and trying to go fast on a Hardly Ableson.
You know they want on the "Tree of Shame" All Harley riders ask "You ever laid er down" Haha
hope the Harley rider wasn't too injured and made a speedy recovery with injuries he had.
If I’m ever lying upside down under my bike waiting for help from someone, please don’t let it be that guy in the orange jacket.
I lost it when he started his bike back up and drove across the street....right after the guy said he was stuck and asked for help. Like what the hell
ARTHUR SEA agree... they all seem completely inept
gosh, do you even ride bikes? No one will be able to park their bikes on that spot, their bikes will just fall to the right side if they try to leave them on kick-stands. They asked if harley rider needs help and then moved to the closest spot where they can leave their bikes on kick-stands.
If the Harley guy just let this guy pass him. This wouldn’t have happen. He started feeling like he was being when this guy catches up to him. Harleys don’t have the same lean angle as sport bikes. I ride a 2020 street glide.
@@PetroDobrynin If it was me and the guy was in real trouble I'd have made a U-turn and parked on the sidestand alongside him facing the other way,. I ride a Suzuki M1800R. Time matters if you're wedged under 350kg of hot metal.
Always ride your own ride. Meaning ride within your ability
Ive been going to the dragon for years. I love the place. Ive never seen even so much as an argument at CROT or any other place. Everyone is there for the same thing and its great. That being said there are those that tend to ride beyond their capabilities. Ive seen both baggers and sport bikes do this. So please stay in your own lane! And for the Harley Davidson parade division that seems to always be at the dragon these days I would ask that if your going to ride at parade speed then at least dont leave 20 at a time. Its annoying. You can actually ride it by yourself ya know. And hells bells pick up the pace just a little or pick another rode to ride. I literally have video of bicycles out running a herd of Harleys up hill on the dragon. OK thats just sad right there.
Worst problem of HD riders. Riding about 5 feet apart at maybe 30 mph. Not leaving room between you to allow others to pass, is just being assholes. You block the road like bicycle boys. You know what you are doing. Just stop or ride on some interstate highway.
@@taterlysaladman9377 I was riding to Mammoth Cave in Kentucky a couple of years ago when we, my wife was my pillion, encountered a group of maybe 20 plus Harleys clogging a narrow state highway. They were blocking and were well aware of it as I saw them actively block people from passing. I got up close to them on my FJR and passed the first cluster putting myself in between and before they realized I was in their midst I passed the rest of them. I don't know if they had novices with them or what the situation was but what I did wasn't reckless they were going between 35 & 45 mph on roads designed for much faster speeds. It gives everyone else on motorcycles a negative image. Not everyone who rides HD is that way but there's enough of them to create that image so that they get lampooned, most notably by "South Park."
Drove by the 30 MPH sign like a boss and the Go Pro is very clear soooooooo this should be a good wreck to watch and learn from! What could possibly go wrong speeding on narrow roads and limited sight lines with traffic in the opposite direction?!
I discovered that road in 1975. They didn't call it the dragon and the speed limit was 55. Reminded me of West Virginia's State Highways, except most roads in WV are nicely banked. Still, I wrote to Road Rider magazine to recommend it to anyone going to the Smokies. I don't think I'll go back - too many other roads...
I've ridden the dragon four times on a Road King, V-Strom 1000, ST1100, and a V-Star 1300. All; the big cruisers have limited cornering clearance, but I think this rider just was scared to lean over any more. Good to learn to brake before the turn.
That guys problem was he heard a bike behind him. Then was not willing to just slow down and let him pass.
Setup for that turn was non-existent, then he looked where he really didn't want to go. Broke the cardinal rule. Paid for it.
This should be used as a training video on how not to take corners. It's scary how many bikers ride like this.
It should be used as a training video on 1) how not to design motorcycles, and 2) what motorcycles not to buy
@@proto57 Right, only if you are tough enough for it
Riding beyond one's ability. Harsh lesson.
I agree. Dude didn't run out of bike, he ran out of talent.
I'm honestly surprised he kept it on the road as long as he did.
I stop on that corner to smoke cigars and watch folks. The dragon is fun but you just can't get in over your head. Better to go slow and save the embarrassment of wrecking or worse hurting someone.
He was wide on every curve prior to going off. This curve wasn’t even that tight of a radius. He exited wide in the preceding right bend which put him off line on entry to the left, and he was sitting straight up on the bike. 90% of these types of crashes are riders not looking far enough ahead into the turn.
you can see it coming from miles away. Going wide every corner
Antoine Schemkes I agree, you can see he turns in too soon hitting the apex early and running wider and wider on each turn, just ran out of room.
stupid is as stupid does. unfortunately HD riders clog up the whole dragon most weekends. usually about 5 feet apart, with half of them not knowing shit about how to ride a motorcycle, but they live to clog the dragon and get the slayer tshirt.
You go where you look, he was looking right at that ditch.
yep
@@malcom59 No, he just needs to learn how to ride a bike. He failed to understand "counter steer." Push left, go left, push right go right. When he tried to stay out of the ditch he tried to steer the bike to the left making it turn right straight toward the ditch. Turning left is the same as pushing with the right grip, thereby causing the bike to go right.
I ride a Softail Deluxe, and have no desire to challenge it on something like the Dragon.
That's what God made sportsbikes for.
Harleys ain't sportsbikes.
Heritage Classic rider here. My thoughts exactly.
It's not a problem if you ride within your limits, and the bike's limits. I just rode it on my Road Glide Ultra... no problem. Rode it 5 times in 2 days. It's not magic, it's just a road. Ride within your bike's limitations.
@@andrewjackson9698 if you are going less than 45 or 50 in some parts, you might be holding up the folks that should be on the dragon. this creates the problem between the oil and the water. harleys are the slowly moving oil, and sport bikes are the water. The dragon is a very sporty road. It's just not very good for tractors or trailers
I've been on the Dragon 6 times, 3 times with my Road King and then 3 times with my Street Glide. Like any challenging road, ride within your capabilities and respect those who want to pass you. It's just a road.
@@taterlysaladman9377 I had exactly two sportbikes pass in the 5 times I rode it. Nobody was being held up..I eased over and waved them on, and they passed quickly and safely. I had to slow down a little bit behind cars a couple of times, just like on any other winding road. This is not a racetrack for squids, it's a public road. Respect it and ride it safely...it's a blast. I probably averaged 40 to 45 mph, but I was watching the road, not the speedometer...
It really looked like he was leaning his body OUT of the turns, forcing his bike to have to lean even further in. At some point that approach straight up failed. What always surprises me is when people crash on the NON-tight corners. Just fix on that wall of dirt and go for a visit.
Look THROUGH the turn. The bike knows where it IS. You need to know where it is GOING.
Yep, look where you're going, go where you're looking.
Video starts @ 5:30.
The Dragon is to us in the mountains out west call 'a normal road'!
Exited wide, then couldn't cut it tight enough for the next turn. What I can't see is why he exited wide in the first place.
Because he CAN'T ride! Period! It's the case with 50% of all these badasses dressed like pirates!
The problem is not the road or is reputation ,is that some riders shouldn't ride at the dragon ( if you aren't I experience rider ) that road is not for beginners or average rider ( if you aren't respect the speed limit) at the dragon there is room for mistakes , I can say that because I have being going there for the last 10 years usually in May ,July and September, some of the local are a fast rider the best way is to let them go by, just be careful over there, be safe and enjoy one of the most great road in the country.
He didn't know how to counter steer or he would've easily made that corner. Looks like he froze up at the last minute and just drove straight off the road.
Looks like he should have bought a bike with a little more sport an a few hundred less pounds.
Lol. EVERY fucking motorcycle video has some jackass who thinks countersteering is the end all solution to everything.
Counter steer.......into a corner. Talk some more shit, idiot.
I'm taking my Can Am F3S Roadster this year. I'm getting old and three wheels with stability control is way more relaxing for me. No way I'm riding my 850lb motorcycle. Stay safe y'all.
"Do not block loading dock" That's kinda poetic!
I'm guessing it did it all Wrong the years I rode my 1981 Lowrider from 1981-2000. I wasn't riding fast like my asshole was on fire. I liked to tour and enjoy the Scenery, not Guess at what the Blurry was.
Did Deals Gap the Dragon on my BMW R1100RS about ten years ago what a thrill but scary.it is something every motorcyclist should do in their lifetime
When I hit a curve like that sometimes I'll drag my rear brake very lightly it helps when your cornering and squat your bike to handle the curve better
Actually it's the opposite. Gently applying the front brake will suppress the forks providing additional traction, but only at the beginning of the curve. Applying the rear brakes will not make the bike "squat" as you say.
I stopped riding, lost a friend (mother of 2) afew days ago 2 weeks ago my buddy got side swiped broke ribs pretty beat up but ok. Done, to many careless driver's im taking up fishin. Both accidents on fort st. in Michigan couple miles apart. Be careful
This is why you never let a Water Buffalo run with the Cheetahs !!
I don't get why so many people crash on this road. Egos, maybe.
Heard the scoot coming up behind him and tried to NOT get passed . . . Dumb move !
He was watching ACE their in his mirror when he needed to be total focus on the RD . Ace was overtaking shame ...biggest hazard on the road is other bikers .
Ace had nothing to do with it. Harley riders expect faster riders on roads like this. Just back it off, stay in the right half of the lane, and wave the faster traffic on when safe. Harleys are great bikes as long as they are ridden within their limitations.
They teach you in motorcycle school about blind curves and others. I’ve learned a lot in the classroom after 27 years of riding.
ouch man .. He should have called it quits once he saw his lines through the corners were off...
He should have called it quits when he bought a tractor. Not made for sporting. Don't drive your wheelchair out on the Indy 500 track. It's not for you.
Hi may I include this in a compilation? It'll be credited and linked back to your channel
Crossing the centerline, exiting wide. Accident waiting to happen. Did he rent it from the Harley rental place at the beginning of the video?
I have a friend who likes to clean ditches...He'd always come out the other side though. Pulling branches and weeds out of his bike while going down the road.
Read thru a lot of the comments, and a few things occur to me...1) the reason to watch a vid like this is to learn; if you just want carnage, there are better sights for that (they have clickbait thumbnails) 2) many have made certain stretches of road infamous, identified by equally descriptive names: the Dragon...the Snake...realize any older road/byway that follows a river, ridge line, or ascends/descends a pass is going to be epic. When you fail to anticipate roads of such caliber are everywhere (perhaps around the next corner) you become complacent, and will be caught unawares. 3) don't blame the equipment, the tires, the roadway. It is best to assume an accident is rider error (yes, even if you are hit) as to think otherwise implies we've nothing to learn from the experience...hit gravel? Should have seen/anticipated it. Got sideswiped? Should have anticipated, yielded or gotten out of harms way, etc.
I ride a 2002 FZ1 running Shinko Ravens (infamously cheap tires) and I do almost no "slab time" (my favorite roads are paved backwoods logging and BLM roads)...the road surface is generally chip-n-seal/poorly maintained asphalt, they often contain debris, and site lines are generally un maintained (at best). One can ride a very brisk pace on such roads if one has the skill, focus, and enough experience...although a full bagger is likely going to be a handful in such conditions which then begs the question: why ride it there at all? Part of being a "good rider" is knowing your skill level, your bikes capabilities, and the limitations of both. Perhaps trying to fulfill a bucket list isn't what riding is about.
And for those who lost a friend/loved one to a motorcycle accident, I am sorry for your loss, but one must realize that it is a dangerous pastime. One should never forget that, and if that had not occurred prior, perhaps one should not have been riding in the first place. Before you accuse me of being a heartless troll realize I lost my father to a motorcycle accident. He was coming up out of Lakeview, Or, traveling to the "Sound of Thunder" when he lost control of his cruiser at a significant rate of speed. He was also wearing one of those POS "Skid Lids" (and let's just say it wasn't an 'open casket'). He had a lifetime of riding experience. Was it bad judgement? Road debris? Mechanical issue? No one will ever know now. The only thing we can learn from such is that life is dangerous: it will kill you in the end. Mitigate your time as best as you see fit. For me, death goes hand in hand with life. It can be sudden, even tragic, but don't fool yourself that it isn't always looking over your shoulder...I ride because it is part/parcel of life for me (approaching 50yrs in the saddle). I've had friends die, I've had family die, but I will continue to ride until I cannot anymore...but that is a choice that everyone must make for themselves.
some one may have slipped something in his fifteenth beer
I hear you. Life comes at you fast. Being impaired is not the way to ride, but maybe it hurts less while you're laying there. Kind of pre-game for the crash. Ride safe out there.
That was some of the worst body position I've ever seen.
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Harley (cruiser) riders who crash thinking they can ride like a sports bike rider, are no worse than a sports bike rider who thinks he/she is an undiscovered Moto GP hero 😬
love that wicked 1 2 shift you made there
What's wrong Riiiccckkkyyyyyyy? Neutral got your tongguuueeee?
Turn the bike around so we can see what's going on.
Riding your Bike Like Hell, you might make it sooner than you want, especially where deer are everywhere...
Ah yes, the “Hardly Ride it Some” motorcycle, in it’s natural habitat.
Those crappy lines were telling you what was about to happen. Ive ridden this road enough to spot trouble like this a mile away
A man gots to know his limitations.
Well do you feel lucky? Punk 😂😂😎😎😎😎🍺
ran wide on every corner...should use public transport
1st shift sounded rough...
Should have had load pipes, they save lives right?
mans got to know his limitations..
Why take a bagger to the dragon and try to go through the curves fast
Cause they read it on the internet and thought they would finally be cool
I did it last year 2 up on mine. I had a great time and was passing plenty of other bikes. A bike only goes through the dragon as slow as the riders skill allows.
All kinds wreck on the Dragon. It’s easy to get in over your head.
Thank god for fast forward.
6:33 guys.
Skip he rest. It’s complete stupidity.
6:06 He rides across a blind corner, then gets off the bike on the right side?
This is why insurance is so high for the rest of us.
Don't worry, that will polish out mate.
Its too heavy for trail riding.
Lol
If the dude's under his bike, you stop *right there* hit your 4-ways and get the f*******g bike off of him! You don't screw around looking for the perfect parking spot. "You alright? Yeah, gimme a hand I'm stuck!" Proceeds to follow the other boardhead to the far side of the road.
Pass your test get a Harley...I know....this shit needs to be learnt on a 250cc, then a 600cc.. crazy ?
Why not get a 900 pound tractor and kill someone?
Shouldn’t be driving that fast anyway, if you want to go fast take it to the track
You shouldn't be doing a lot of shit you do. Tracks are run by idiots and they let young punks pass on the inside. And charge you $300 or more and have inspection at 7 AM. I am still on the shitter at 7. Fuk that.
Watched this several times, the Harley was not that much off the line as what the sport bike was following him, would bet a sandwich the Harley guy felt the sport bike breathing down on him and was wondering how in the hell an MC that cost 1/3 of what he paid is fixing to eat his lunch and was focused on his mirror instead of the curve he straightened out and ran off of.
I see all the professional MotoGp riders made it here.
He crashed 5 times before he actually went down....
It is as if that rider just stopped trying. Really weird.
Just properly trail breaking with a good lean angle could've prevented that. Target fixation is a real thing. Hope he's all good! Poor 🚲
PowerRangers dont seem to like the Pirates.
Fat heavy Harleys on corners..Unreal..
You have actually never ridden anything larger than a scooter...have you?
Those dentists/chiropractors on Harleys are always in the way.
Should be titled "Riding Over Your Skill Level", or "Pushed Over the Edge by Your Buddies".
He wasn’t leaning at all when he drove off the road? Strange he did the other corner ok.
I don't get it why did he fall off he was doing fine.
They have Gutters in Bowling Alleys too .
5:31 is what ur looking for.
You seem to be going very fast. What happens if a deer jumps out in front of you. The tree's are very close to the road. The Harley guy the way he was doing the corners must have been a new rider.
M Detlef oh, hello Troll.
@M Detlef I've been riding for more than 50 years. Ride smart and watch out for 4 wheelers.
Good to watch these videos and learn from their mistakes....I ride a 2018 Fat Bob and I’m a new rider and find it easy to turn....just know your limits and don’t be afraid to lean in
That dude needs to go back home and sit on the porch.
Most common cause of crahes here - too much speed + too little skills
Americans are notoriously bad at going round corners. We in England have to ride on these sort of roads on a daily basis :)
It goes the way the eyes looking at.
Pride was his biggest enemy here. He was trying to keep up with experienced riders and payed the price. No shame in being a novice rider. You will get there soon enough so make sure you and your bike make it to that point. I would rather get to where I'm going a little later than to not get there at all and have the humiliation of having your friends and strangers picking you and your busted up bike out of the ditch.
Why do Harley riders get off on the HIGH side. And they never see the "No Harley's " sign!
Old Pilots Saying... First And Foremost Fly The Plane!
Same With Bike ... Don't let some ass hole push you past your limits!
Peace ... Duane Cole...Great Pilot had a few beers with him at a fly - in in Wisconsin. ;-)))
Wow. I have ridden it a lot of times, but never witnessed a crash. Seen the aftermath, but not the actual event.
I have been at the scene immediately afterwards but never have seen one occur. Guess I am too slow.
Why do they even ride the dragon on Harleys? Can’t they just go to the bar?
Been on 129 a lot, good work. Serious road.
I don't know where he's at but not deals gap. No 180 degree turns. Also the dragon is Loaded with bikes and cars. Nobody crazy enough to be pulling a boat up it.
I was waiting for the POV to wipe out. Instead, it was the guy in front of him who basically pulled his lunch pail. Obviously a newbie. Your ego will get you killed every time.CRASHING SUCKS 😡
old guys crack me up.
Joe ; hey John lets go buy a couple Harleys and go riding.
John ; I don't know how to ride.
Joe; nothing to it, like riding a bicycle.
John'; I'm in, let's go . Route 66 is nice, flat and straight.
Joe; oh no, that is boring let's do the Tail of the Dragon.
Starts at 5:25
Never ever ever ride outside your limit he was sweeping to wide he should of either slowed down or pushed right more
This racetrack is awesome!
It’s a Harley they’re not made to fly around corners like that my bike cost to much to destroy it
Why would you ride like that on a Harley? Just take your time man. They all have the death wobble.
2003 Road King. 120mph. 1986 FXRP. 95 mph. 1999 Road King. 110mph 7X.1986 VFR700, 155 mph. 1998 Vmax. 138 mph. 2003 VFR 800. 145 mph. No wobble of death. 52 years riding, having owned 42 motorcycles. Clearly not educated on motorcycles. Alcohol and riding do not mix. You are the only one I have ever seen in print or heard state that all Harley's have a death wobble. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@@umarkedreturn8776 no need to state your resume. I've had more bikes than you mostly Ducati's. I have a Harley T-Sport and it has the death wobble. Look it up man, Harley Davidson is the worst handling motorcycle ever made. They are nothing but bar hoppers.
Looks like he took his eyes off the road or got distracted....sh!t happens.