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  • Опубліковано 6 гру 2011
  • diving wreck of Estonia Ferry in 2001

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  • @yewisemountaingoat528
    @yewisemountaingoat528 4 роки тому +127

    I get chills watching this. Wrecks are always scary. Like a giant metal tomb with lots of dead bodies inside. To me these divers are incredibly brave. They couldn't pay me enough to dive close to a decaying wreck of a huge ship.

    • @Tom65478
      @Tom65478 2 роки тому

      Same

    • @joaoguilherme9034
      @joaoguilherme9034 Рік тому

      The bodys prob got removed or are in areas that is dangerous to go.

    • @banger2998
      @banger2998 Рік тому +3

      @@joaoguilherme9034 no they decompose very fast in the ocean

    • @joaoguilherme9034
      @joaoguilherme9034 Рік тому +1

      @@banger2998 in the deep ocean only but estonia is not deep human flesh probably decomposed because of the salt but bones are still in there i think

    • @banger2998
      @banger2998 Рік тому +2

      @@joaoguilherme9034 no bones also decompose fast in the ocean although slower than flesh

  • @og_sane
    @og_sane 3 роки тому +36

    I'm a Finn and for me it's still hard to believe something as horrible as this sad event really happened 😭. May all the victims rest in peace, no more suffering 🙏♥️😪.

  • @7033giorgio
    @7033giorgio 7 років тому +326

    I liked how they put a sign on the ferry saying in memory of the people who sank with the ship rest in peace

    • @RexWort
      @RexWort 7 років тому +48

      7033giorgio
      Yeah because their government abandoned them and left the families who lost their love ones with no body to bury

    • @rebeccasjodal9769
      @rebeccasjodal9769 5 років тому +4

      I like it too. I just hope the sign wont damage the sea and it's living creatures while it's down there

    • @sloth-gaming
      @sloth-gaming 5 років тому +9

      @@rebeccasjodal9769 it's not free debree it's attached to the ship it should be ok

    • @SSaNNEE100
      @SSaNNEE100 3 роки тому +1

      @@RexWort well they only recovered around 300 bodies from Titanic. So what's your point? It's sad its not easier to recover bodies from sunken ships but thats the harsh reality.

    • @alibobba1
      @alibobba1 3 роки тому +6

      @@SSaNNEE100 do you know the difference between Titanic and Estonia?
      I can think of about 3700..

  • @joelbackman8330
    @joelbackman8330 6 років тому +160

    A very sad place to be. Wouldn't want to spend a second there. May they rest in peace.

  • @Justdisco2
    @Justdisco2 6 років тому +339

    As a novice diver it would be scary shit going down there.

    • @cheesesteak2795
      @cheesesteak2795 4 роки тому +11

      I agree

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 4 роки тому +28

      could you imagine seeing the decaying skin and bone floating around? I saw another video and that was pretty disturbing.

    • @UWfalcin
      @UWfalcin 4 роки тому +8

      @@geronimo5537 All of that was edited out from the physical tapes.

    • @Aleks310883
      @Aleks310883 3 роки тому +1

      Why? Depth or story?

    • @Justdisco2
      @Justdisco2 3 роки тому +6

      As a inexperienced diver, The depth and the story knowing over 800 people died there and how they died

  • @raikkoprants1179
    @raikkoprants1179 10 років тому +229

    I am from Estonia.Some of my old family was on that ship. R.I.P

    • @Tipi83
      @Tipi83 9 років тому +6

      Sorry to hear that.. =/

    • @vainmarlon
      @vainmarlon 9 років тому +13

      lol lies

    • @pontan8084
      @pontan8084 9 років тому +27

      hey im swedish (almost all of them on the ship was swedish i was like 500) i remeber my dad RIP

    • @whyismaltehere
      @whyismaltehere 7 років тому +2

      Hej du är svensk!

    • @davidmp170
      @davidmp170 6 років тому +1

      Brainstormvideos Lieto komatus un punktus.

  • @LG6Chromatica
    @LG6Chromatica 3 роки тому +50

    This is now illegal. As this is now considered a Graveyard meaning it is illegal to go anywhere near the wreck. However a large hole was recently found on the side of the boat by a submarine which had not been revealed before. Maybe this could be important in the further muster of Estonia

    • @pudelpea9130
      @pudelpea9130 2 роки тому +4

      @#mussmanwissen lets take a closer look here. Ms estonia built by meyerwerft ship company a very high ranked ship company which has built around 200 luxury cruise ships and throughout decades only 1 of them sunk . All the ships built by meyerwerft are claimed as -sinking proof* with designed 3 air pockets . Even if visor breaks off there shouldve been enough air to keep the ship floating for 2-4 hours. But estonia fell 90 degrees on its side and sank 3x faster than a wilhelm gustloff which was hit by 3 torpedos and missiles... theres literally no way on earth this ferry sank that fast without it being an inside job... and there will be new diving done by swedish,finnish and estonian goverment and im over 100% sure they will debunk this submarine theory and say that they discovered more holes on the ship that was shown by that film crew who discovered the hole. And therefore the damages are caused by laying on a rocky seabed for years. But in reality their getting away with a mass sacrifice of innocent people for some dirty money... everybody knows they smuggled stolen soviet union military technology,(possibly secret documents/space technology also) its not a secret they did that even russian goverment sent 2 warnings to swedish goverment to stop this smuggling of weapons or 3rd time its not goin to be just a warning. We will do something about it. And boom they did do something. They planted bombs on estonia and thats that. Look at the new video of how they discovered the hole and hmm 🤔🤔🤔 looks like a whole bomb blast took place there... and thats exactlt 1000000000% what happened they literally discovered the same radiation contamination on the ship which are very common after a c4 bomb blast..

    • @Grandizer8989
      @Grandizer8989 2 роки тому +11

      Not illegal for countries who didn’t sign the Treaty, like Germany

    • @evanburgess8428
      @evanburgess8428 2 роки тому

      @Wally#01 It would have been well below the waterline, you must be joking. The ship was also at an angle due to wind and a list from the start of sailing. The reality is the waves were going over the bow. A lithuanian policeman, apparently a cabin free walk on traveller as a tourist (still a bit odd), was seated with a view of the bow visor on deck 7, apparently next to several crew members cabins. He said the waves were going right over the bow. The ship was constantly rolling with that, which is why the fins were deployed at the back, but it didn't help that much.
      The hole, according to the images provided, starts about 2 m under the last E on the starboard side. If the water was hitting the bow visor, which is about 4m higher, and the ship was rolling, it was clearly beneath the water line. It also doesn't matter that much, because it could clearly have been hit by something (who knows what) above the waterline which still allowed waves to come in. The reality is this, there was a massive bang which sent things and people flying. It was so hard it stopped clocks. It seemed to slow the ships speed and then there was massive scraping sounds. The bang/knock came from the starboard side and moved them as if they'd been pushed. After this the boat started to roll to the starboard and at one point made a massive list 90 degrees causing a large amount of passengers to break their arms and legs as well as be hit by anything not held down.
      "There was a woman who broke one or both of her legs, begging for a life jacket. In the end she got one. It was the law of the jungle that applied." It is hard to believe this happened so fast based upon what was described in the report, which by the way, had no legal powers of compulsion. A Swedish politician was recently asked how certain he was there wasn't a military shipment that night, and he said "I can't put a figure on it" *the chances* "We only had the good will of the military to go on. It depended how loyal they were to the report." So, you have secrets that could get someone in jail, you have classified material, and you have a guy working for the accident investigation commission asking you a question with not legal binding.
      You can see the CCTV from the SEWOL, and even when trucks were falling to their sides, it wasn't so fast, so the simple transfer of weight can't account for it.

  • @artuurs1
    @artuurs1 7 років тому +117

    unbelievable quality

  • @freddanlindmark4895
    @freddanlindmark4895 9 років тому +320

    750 bodies rest in the wreck of ms estonia, May they rest in peace.

    • @Jaska8000
      @Jaska8000 9 років тому +27

      *****
      Navy divers reported masses of bodies laying on the seabend all around the wreck. Officially it was said that all victims that hadn't been lifted up from sea were inside the wreck of late M/S Estonia. That was a lie.

    • @Jaska8000
      @Jaska8000 8 років тому +13

      +Phillip Smith
      Trying to concrete the wreck was one idea that didn't really go anywhere. It was in my opinion a try to consolate Swedish family members who wanted the ship to be lifted. "We didn't found your relatives but covered M/S Estonia instead, OK?"

    • @rehnen6840
      @rehnen6840 8 років тому +12

      +Jaska8000 I agree with you but I also think that they wanted to cover it up with concrete because there were russian radioactive weapons onboard the ship the night it sank. So they didn't want to "ruin" the baltic sea with radioactivity. That's my opinion since I saw a documentary about the m/s Estonia.

    • @Jaska8000
      @Jaska8000 8 років тому +5

      +jacan98
      There was something fishy about sinking of m/s Estonia. Did it collide with Russian sub? Were there some pre-placed detonators on bottom? What about the gargo? Something there worth of sinking the ship and the innocence? So many questions, no answers. Some say that salvation party had unidentified vessel on their radar. It moved fast speed to south and did not answer on channel 16 and soon disappeared from radar. Submarine or just whole lot of life vests on waves 10 metres high?

    • @rehnen6840
      @rehnen6840 8 років тому +9

      +Jaska8000 yeah, something terrible did happend to m/s Estonia that some people don't wan't to leak out... :/

  • @2015071
    @2015071 5 років тому +61

    Very rare footage. After the tragedy Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Denmark, Russia and the United Kingdom, declared sanctity over the site, prohibiting their citizens from even approaching the wreck. They also dropped pebbles to try to cover the wreck and use radar to monitor it.

    • @MarineAqua45
      @MarineAqua45 4 роки тому +22

      And whats very strange about all of this, is that,the United Kingdom has no relevance in the Baltic Sea, as its bordered by the North Sea, The Atlantic Ocean & the English Channel. Unless the UK were helping the Swedes with the transported Cargo, etc?

    • @ihatemondays63
      @ihatemondays63 4 роки тому +6

      MarineAqua45 There were probably British citizens on board, that’s probably one of the reasons why

    • @theofficial_usa
      @theofficial_usa 3 роки тому

      I am from Latvia

    • @fragman4521
      @fragman4521 3 роки тому +1

      @rr 22 No. 1 survived and 1 declared missing

    • @hmvku
      @hmvku 3 роки тому +4

      @@ihatemondays63 There are also Dutch victims on board, Holland did not sign, were not asked. Are closer by. And this is international water, they own it??

  • @MrOgge50
    @MrOgge50 3 роки тому +12

    I only found out about this recently. Kind of fascinating that a maritime disaster this big occurred so close to my home country. Sure I wasn’t alive back then but still.

  • @jarimakelainen860
    @jarimakelainen860 7 років тому +48

    I'm also asking about the uncut version. Do you have moore footage?

    • @teemupeju2139
      @teemupeju2139 6 років тому +9

      Jari Mäkeläinen venäläisillä oli ennen pitkii pätkii mis näky ihan kaikki, ei vaan löydy enää mistään

    • @kyostim
      @kyostim 4 роки тому +25

      I do not trust on these "official reports" They really cut many important facts away as they do not answer important questions that were made. One Estonian who worked at the harbor was shot on home door when coming from work. How about those vanished people in hospitals later said dead? Nobody would like to answer!

    • @chukwow5738
      @chukwow5738 3 роки тому +2

      kyostim
      And now new discoveries had made

  • @Wills4gottenbday
    @Wills4gottenbday 2 роки тому +5

    I still can't believe this happened. It's awful how quickly it went under because there were so many other boats & helicopters ready to rescue them. Rip.

  • @Freedeeism
    @Freedeeism 7 років тому +12

    Very interesting!
    Do you have more uncut film that I can see of Estonia somewhere?

  • @Suixamoht
    @Suixamoht 8 років тому +144

    Thanks for this. I've always wanted to see a good quality video of the wreck. I don't know why, but Estonia just fascinates me a lot, even though there are better places to dive to in the sea.
    I guess its just that we've all traveled with these ferries and know them, and can in a way imagine the tragedy happening to us.
    Is there any more footage of the wreck?

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 4 роки тому +8

      There is very little footage of dives down to Estonia I really wish the videos were not so short and cut apart.

    • @elia.8993
      @elia.8993 4 роки тому +10

      I feel the same way. I am fascinated by this ship wreck since I read about it in one my anthropology classes. People get distrubed by the dead bodies floating but I am amazed to see it. I love reading and seeing videos about this wreck.

    • @p2ikesekiir707
      @p2ikesekiir707 3 роки тому +1

      New documentary just came out. 4K footage in there

    • @Suixamoht
      @Suixamoht 3 роки тому +2

      @@p2ikesekiir707 Yeah, I've watched the whole thing. I thought it was great, even though they photographed only the hull section.

    • @p2ikesekiir707
      @p2ikesekiir707 3 роки тому +6

      Suixamoht They found a new hole on the side of the ship, that has been silenced out by media and government. i believe there was some dark shit going on there. we'll see, the truth will come out one day :))

  • @Kert69
    @Kert69 3 роки тому +27

    And now we know that there was a hole

  • @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
    @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid 2 роки тому +2

    I'm happy to see that they did not enter it.
    I wasn't ready for that scene.

  • @crazypilot7577
    @crazypilot7577 8 років тому +76

    It's amazing how quickly a ship can deteriorate. Just 7 years later.

    • @homoerectus9130
      @homoerectus9130 7 років тому +10

      The ship sank almost 30 years ago not 7

    • @crazypilot7577
      @crazypilot7577 7 років тому +50

      Homo Erectus I mean from the time the video was shot.

    • @homoerectus9130
      @homoerectus9130 7 років тому +25

      CrazyPilot757 You are correct the video was taken in 2001 my bad there

    • @crazypilot7577
      @crazypilot7577 7 років тому +18

      Homo Erectus No problem man.

    • @MrDoubleKiller
      @MrDoubleKiller 7 років тому +14

      Right now it's probably a piece of brown turd that resembles a ship.

  • @nosacz8882
    @nosacz8882 5 років тому +1

    W jakiej części promu pływaliście ??

  • @evanburgess8428
    @evanburgess8428 2 роки тому +1

    Was this footage for the Rabe dive?

  • @ici_marmotte
    @ici_marmotte 3 роки тому +2

    It would scare the hell out of me to dive down there. This giant thing and all the people who died within it - horrific.

  • @hobbyhumoristen
    @hobbyhumoristen 8 років тому +51

    1:23 is that the front where the bow was attached?

    • @kufel61
      @kufel61  8 років тому +21

      Yes

    • @suomicomplation6772
      @suomicomplation6772 6 років тому

      hobbyhumoristen o

    • @oliverasbjrnolsen9103
      @oliverasbjrnolsen9103 6 років тому

      hobbyhumoristen o

    • @sloth-gaming
      @sloth-gaming 5 років тому +1

      @@kufel61 the cause.

    • @blutube_1234
      @blutube_1234 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for pointing that out, i was wondering if i would see any good footage of what was left of the visor, as i wasnt sure if it had broken off or just opened up, now i know i guess

  • @acidfridge
    @acidfridge 5 років тому +2

    The track from kitaro „ melancholy“ is perfect for that video. Very nice 👌🏻

  • @UWfalcin
    @UWfalcin 11 місяців тому

    Where on the wreck did you place the fabric plaque? I am diving here soon and would like to have a moment by it. Is it in front of the car ramp?

    • @cynbloxy
      @cynbloxy 2 місяці тому

      You have dived to M/S Estonia?

  • @Bgt44bgt
    @Bgt44bgt 5 років тому +1

    Is there concrete that was pured on the ship or not ? I've read somewhere that Smit Bv was working on the ship after the tragedy and that they pured concrete on it ?

    • @teemupeju2139
      @teemupeju2139 5 років тому +4

      I believe they were beginning to bury her in concrete, but the public outcry of (swedish? ) relatives & others stopped them and they only managed to pour gravel on the bow of the ship, but never cement, before they had to stop the process

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX 7 років тому +13

    Must be very eerie to swim in a ship that has close to 800 bodies still inside, let alone come across any human remains. Someone pointed at 0:45 as being some but I can't see anything that suggests that it is.

    • @identitymatrix
      @identitymatrix 3 роки тому +1

      You will not find any bodies there anymore. But yes it is kinda creepy.

    • @kadeberrier3799
      @kadeberrier3799 3 роки тому +2

      @@identitymatrix The bones most likely still remain. Since they are in the Baltic, they will decay much longer than in the Atlantic or Pacific. There are bones that surround the wreck of the Swedish warship Mars which went down in 1564.

  • @resetplayz53
    @resetplayz53 4 роки тому +8

    I haven’t seen many dives or pictures of the wreck but I really wanna see some

  • @00lys00
    @00lys00 5 років тому +19

    Beautiful video and I like the text of memorial which the diver attached to Estonia. Rest in Peace all people who perished that day. I remember it because we went to school and our teacher read a poem when she told what had happened.❤️

  • @Baroquean
    @Baroquean 2 роки тому +4

    Why hasn't any diving material been published on the actual car deck? The ship was notoriously departed a quarter late and the last few army trucks were driven to the car deck. Some dive revealed that the railings of the ramp had been removed and they were lounging on the seabed. No one has probably dived to do that for no reason.

    • @Baroquean
      @Baroquean 2 роки тому +1

      www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/miksi-estonian-keularampin-kaiteet-loytyivat-aluksen-ulkopuolelta-ex-ruotsalaispoliitikon-kova-arvio-vain-puolustusvoimat-on-voinut-toimia-sellaisella-voimalla/7938208

    • @roneystapes
      @roneystapes 2 роки тому +3

      Any military material on the ship has already been removed from the site in question, that's why the side railings were cut off and removed, they are stacked on the sea bed next to the ship, also the ramp itself has been removed and is leaning against the ship...

    • @Baroquean
      @Baroquean 2 роки тому +1

      @@roneystapes Right, the sensitive material has certainly been lifted. One of these has apparently been some suitcase that would have been in Captain Avo Piht’s cabin. Someone was tasked with picking up that particular suitcase.
      It would still be interesting to know if it is true that there are a couple of army trucks on board. It could be tricky to verify, as they are probably right at the stern.

    • @roneystapes
      @roneystapes 2 роки тому +1

      @@Baroquean Customs officials have confirmed unofficially that military trucks were indeed on board, seems to have been quite the routine on Estonia, perhaps these vehicles were chopped up and removed as well, many sources claim that the "cars" found inside the ship look to be broken or deformed.
      Everything about this case is suspect, missing people, people dying of mysterious heart attacks etc, governments agreeing to dump rocks and concrete to bury the ship, eye witness accounts that change and or are destroyed, the list goes on and on, one thing we can be sure of is that military and political concerns come first, human life is secondary, these innocent victims were simply collateral damage...

  • @pietarisorsa153
    @pietarisorsa153 5 років тому +15

    when i started this vid i got a ad for ferry to estonia i am from finland....

    • @Fismies
      @Fismies 4 роки тому

      Eckerö line👍

  • @Ry0Hawk
    @Ry0Hawk 8 років тому +4

    I envy you guys, I've always wanted to explore shipwrecks..

  • @cybertronus
    @cybertronus 11 років тому +5

    cool video mate , Must been amazing to dive down there

  • @user-de2nk3nw2o
    @user-de2nk3nw2o Місяць тому

    They need to bring it to the surface and put it in a museum so no one will get hurt r.i.p. to the ones that lost their lives I would love to go down there and visit and do study’s and help people that had loved ones on the ship 🙏🏾💐😔I’m sorry for everyone that lost their loved ones they are in gods hands now

  • @allenroy9974
    @allenroy9974 3 роки тому +2

    It's really tears come out

  • @Daness74
    @Daness74 2 роки тому +1

    Those Banner = awesome act !!!🤍🖤🤎💜💙💚💛🧡❤🏆🏅👏👍🥰🤞🐞🍀☮☯️🕊xxx

  • @roteazalee
    @roteazalee 4 роки тому +7

    Scary.

  • @einarvasvik1507
    @einarvasvik1507 5 років тому +9

    such a tragedy !

  • @Little_Blue_49
    @Little_Blue_49 Рік тому +1

    is this the M/S Estonia?

  • @fiounaplays3801
    @fiounaplays3801 8 років тому +7

    😢

  • @sepnyte9422
    @sepnyte9422 3 роки тому +2

    Did you see the large gash that they've reportedly found recently?

    • @Ludde_V2
      @Ludde_V2 3 роки тому

      Yea it was almost 2 meter tall and 1,5 meters wide

    • @silvergemteam
      @silvergemteam 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ludde_V2 where is the footage?

  • @ThePenguinHere
    @ThePenguinHere 2 роки тому

    The Estonia is technically a Cruise-Ferry a combination between a cruise ship and a ferry

  • @eliashellman927
    @eliashellman927 4 роки тому +3

    My mother was on the boat 1992

    • @hikkks
      @hikkks 4 роки тому

      and... survived?

    • @egg4389
      @egg4389 4 роки тому +1

      @@hikkks im pretty sure that he means wasa king that ship was before estonia

  • @LindaTCornwall
    @LindaTCornwall 6 років тому

    Slawek how deep is the Estonia?

    • @freagle123
      @freagle123 5 років тому +8

      You say it "COAST Guard", they have nothing to say in international Waters... ;)

    • @CIubDuck
      @CIubDuck 5 років тому +2

      @Sami Sund You're free to dive around there, unless you're from Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Denmark, Russia and the United Kingdom (copied from Wikipedia) as they're in a treaty to let the ship be left alone.

    • @CIubDuck
      @CIubDuck 5 років тому +3

      @Sami Sund I didn't say it was morally right, or that everyone should do it. I said that it's technically legal for everyone outside the treaty to go there and dive. The coastguard can get however pissed they want at you, it isn't illegal. Morally wrong, absolutely. Illegal, no.

    • @crazydutchbastard3576
      @crazydutchbastard3576 4 роки тому

      262 feet

  • @UWfalcin
    @UWfalcin 4 роки тому +1

    Is this you diving Slawek?

    • @kufel61
      @kufel61  4 роки тому +12

      Yes. It was dive in 2001 on Jutta Rabe expedition

    • @xNintendoGamerx
      @xNintendoGamerx 4 роки тому +6

      @@kufel61 Do you happen to have unedited, longer footage? This is absolutely fascinating. Either way, thanks for the amazing insight into this wreck.

    • @UWfalcin
      @UWfalcin 4 роки тому

      Nathan Kramber Yeah me too, this is just too short.

    • @chukwow5738
      @chukwow5738 3 роки тому +1

      Slawek Packo
      Didn’t you see the 4 meter hole?

  • @mirekiewa
    @mirekiewa 3 роки тому

    Is legal to be there?

  • @TheDoctorThrax
    @TheDoctorThrax 10 років тому +1

    Is that Kitaro in the background I hear as music?

  • @chikitabowow
    @chikitabowow 8 років тому +9

    Could there still be bodies down there, or have have they been completely dissolved in the water?

    • @ultrastips6
      @ultrastips6 8 років тому +1

      xD

    • @simonwatts8338
      @simonwatts8338 8 років тому +12

      There are apparently a lot of remains on the sea bed, but the bones will eventually dissolve as the sea has not much Calcium in it and so leeches this from the bones.

    • @chdreturns
      @chdreturns 8 років тому +11

      +Simon Watts In other words no closure for the families.

    • @gatesmw50
      @gatesmw50 6 років тому +3

      I imagine that how long skeletal remains last depend on the PH of the water for one thing. Water temperature and oxygen levels may be another factor. But sooner or later time and natural processes will win out.

    • @LindaTCornwall
      @LindaTCornwall 6 років тому +21

      No there won't be anything other than skeletal remains now, bodies break down very fast in water. My ex used to work for Blake Emergency Services, and he's done many body removals from the sea. The skin literally peels off after a week. The skin absorbs water and then peels away from the underlying tissues then of course fish, crabs and sea lice etc will nibble away at the flesh. Because the waters are so cold there, bodies don't tend to bloat and float, as they call it. So the cold will mean less gas building up from the bacteria, this will be a reason for them staying on the seabed.
      So very sad that this still hasn't had a proper inquest into the accident!! God bless all those poor souls, may they rest in piece.

  • @sarasinkkonen9835
    @sarasinkkonen9835 8 років тому +2

    Mikä musiikin nimi muuten on?

  • @mustangmike4078
    @mustangmike4078 3 роки тому

    You gotta be one brave soul to be a wreck diver and I'm not one of them.

  • @pmcg97
    @pmcg97 2 роки тому

    Respect 😔

  • @Xerroxi
    @Xerroxi 4 роки тому +4

    something is very fishy about this incident. send down private divers and see if you can get some proper answers. maybe they can see / find something wich has been supressed by the goverment.. seems to be alot of people asking alot of questions also around this incident. anyhow may the victims Rest in peace

    • @hoobodakloos9255
      @hoobodakloos9255 3 роки тому +1

      They just dig this, discovered a Huge Hole which the government tried hiding...

    • @Xerroxi
      @Xerroxi 3 роки тому +2

      @@hoobodakloos9255 oh? more information plix? is there something on youtube about it? gief all info plx

    • @hoobodakloos9255
      @hoobodakloos9255 3 роки тому +1

      @@Xerroxi A Swedish documentary team found out by filming the boat for the first time ever. Search for Estonia documentary Swedish or something, you might find something

    • @hmvku
      @hmvku 3 роки тому +1

      Now is the time for the relatives to hand a list of all the relevant questions to 7 Parliaments. ANSWER NOW. 26 YEARS TOO LATE.

  • @stianmathisen4284
    @stianmathisen4284 3 роки тому +5

    Carl Eric Reintamm did arrive the promenade deck 1 till 2 minutes after the loud 2 or 3 bangs that happened between ca. kl. 01.02 or 01.05.
    According to JAIC the bow visor fell of the ship around kl. 01.16.
    So the 2-3 big bangs, water on deck 1, and the following starboard listing did happen ca. 10-15 minutes before the separation of the bow visor!
    That is pretty strange, because that means that the sekvens of happenings did indeed start approximum 12-15 minutes before the car ramp could have let all the water inn on the car deck.
    That brings the questions on why the water came in on deck 1, and why the ship listed before the ramp fell down and the visor separated from the ship !?
    Reintamm did see something in the water that left the ship backwards to the left app. 10 minutes before the separation of the bow visor.
    Assuming that Reintamm looked backwards to the left from starboard promenade deck point of view, the thing in the water most likely could have hit the starboard side of the ship before the separation of the visor, and the opening of the ramp.
    If Reintamm speaks truth it clearly proves without any shadow of a doubt that the specific time of the the 2-3 loud bangs, the inlet of the water on deck 1, followed by the with 30 degrees starboard listing a few minutes later, that this sekvens of events clearly happened before the separation of the visor and the downfall of the ramp........

  • @Kajini
    @Kajini 8 років тому +2

    toi estonia on kyl sellanen että huhhuh R.I.P. M/S Estonia. Täs viel Tallunkil kysymys :Onko teillä ikävä Estoniaa ?. vastaisitteko ?

    • @maksamakkara4513
      @maksamakkara4513 8 років тому

      Mulla on kyllä vähän

    • @robertbudivski6529
      @robertbudivski6529 8 років тому +1

      +Julia Kokkonen on

    • @sosiaalitoimisto
      @sosiaalitoimisto 8 років тому +1

      Mulla on ihan sikana

    • @Kajini
      @Kajini 8 років тому

      Mua ei

    • @dr.willsofficial9506
      @dr.willsofficial9506 5 років тому

      Mun kaveri kerto et ku se oli just syntyny nii sen äiti oli menossa Estoniaa mut onneks se oli jo täynnä eikä mahtunut enää ihmisii

  • @jimmyuk007
    @jimmyuk007 3 роки тому +1

    How deep as ship sunk?

  • @SeanRCope
    @SeanRCope 2 роки тому

    Nope, let them rest. They will not ever let us know what really happened or why, just thousands of theories and none…. It’s so sad.

  • @evelinvohta6173
    @evelinvohta6173 10 років тому +3

    My friends mother was on this ship one day before. And two of my friends moms wew on this boat, when it broke

  • @PRR5406
    @PRR5406 9 років тому +3

    I'm actually surprised it hasn't been salvaged. Depth must be 200-300 feet? Cold, too. Not a pretty place to be.

    • @Jaska8000
      @Jaska8000 9 років тому +2

      PRR5406
      They considered taking Estonia up but for some reason idea was turned down. The ship is bedded on bottom only some 60 meters deep and was/is easy to take up to surface if wanted. They also talked about concrete coating as like to seal it like a mausoleum but not happened. They wanted to keep the exact location of the wreck site secret but at least diving community in Finland has it commonly known.

    • @PRR5406
      @PRR5406 9 років тому +1

      Jaska8000 The divers will know it before anyone, other than perhaps, the fishermen. Dumb idea to cover it in concrete; expensive and totally impractical. Wreck removal at this time would be publicly unpopular. Let is rest and collapse like the "Andrea Doria".

    • @jjgam3r2.09
      @jjgam3r2.09 5 років тому

      PRR5406 did they at least remove the fuel?

    • @dingo9617
      @dingo9617 4 роки тому

      JJ GAM3R 2.0 No they didnt remove anything except the dead bodies

    • @kyostim
      @kyostim 4 роки тому +1

      @@PRR5406 Those divers have secrets and they have promised not to talk what they have seen. Public has not seen uncut films about those divings. We hope some diver anyway before dying tells more for reporters. Many are dead of those who wanted to tell more. So they at least say.

  • @sarasinkkonen9835
    @sarasinkkonen9835 8 років тому +20

    R.I.P i cry everytime when i see this...:(

    • @erska6138
      @erska6138 6 років тому +5

      Sara Sinkkonen itkupilli

    • @miihhail3004
      @miihhail3004 6 років тому +1

      Sara Sinkkonen miks

    • @juhismoto
      @juhismoto 4 роки тому +2

      @@erska6138 anna itkeä. Tää on helvetin surullista kun tuos laivas useet ei voinu tehä mitään kun M.S Estonia upposi.

    • @og_sane
      @og_sane 3 роки тому

      @@erska6138 pääs kii

  • @ScotmanUK2000
    @ScotmanUK2000 10 років тому +2

    Its almost 20 years since the disaster. I wonder what the ship is like today?

    • @radovanlukic3267
      @radovanlukic3267 5 років тому +2

      it is bad.....now in 2018 i can't believe how it is now. It is my favourite Ferry.

    • @andyfaulk3962
      @andyfaulk3962 4 роки тому

      @@radovanlukic3267
      Your favorite ferry is one that sank and killed a ton of people. You need better taste in ferries

    • @noelkoppel943
      @noelkoppel943 3 роки тому

      Titanic killed 1.5k people and they even made a drama movie about it.

    • @ScotmanUK2000
      @ScotmanUK2000 3 роки тому +1

      @@noelkoppel943 The old cliche. They always like to make a drama out of a crisis.

  • @ewaszkudlarek492
    @ewaszkudlarek492 8 років тому

    na jakiej głębokości leży wrak?

    • @kufel61
      @kufel61  8 років тому +1

      +Ewa Szkudlarek raczej leżał - na dziobie 73m a na rufie 78m (dno) . Obecnie jest zasłonięty betonowo piaskowym sarkofagiem a podobno przy jego powstawaniu dno bardzo się pozmieniało.

    • @ewaszkudlarek492
      @ewaszkudlarek492 8 років тому

      spoko dzięki.

    • @petermilo3786
      @petermilo3786 8 років тому

      80 metrów

    • @panadar4217
      @panadar4217 3 роки тому

      @@kufel61 Estonia zakryta sarkofagiem? Czy mógłbym poprosić o link do jakiegoś artykułu na ten temat? Nigdy o tym nie słyszałem.

    • @nexustatki8030
      @nexustatki8030 2 роки тому +1

      @@panadar4217 wrak miał być pokryty sarkofagiem z tego co mi wiadomo nie do końca wiadomo czemu jedyne co jest pewne to że w 1996 roku wrak został lekko podsypany tłuczniem i tylko tyle plany były na betonowy sarkofag na całym wraku jakiś czas temu znów się zrobiło o tym głośno gdy odkryto wyrwę w burcie

  • @itsjustbrisk709
    @itsjustbrisk709 2 роки тому

    I can't remember how she went down, all I remember is hearing that the bow had come off in a storm allowing water to rush into the car deck

  • @Perich29
    @Perich29 2 роки тому

    I was hoping to see the cars and truck onboard that is underwater when they went inside the ship.

  • @iulikiulik6642
    @iulikiulik6642 3 роки тому

    The best way to hide all dirty plans, not to let nobody to aproach to ship. What about relatives of those who lost their live on this ship, i think they deserves to know the true. It is inadmissible that legendary Titanic has more video and more mysteries are discovered why it sanked and count that it is at 3700m underwater and is much more expensive to dive to it. I think people a real investigation should happen with good quality video of footage of Estonia in our days in memory of those who lost their lives on this ship.

  • @MrGeesikser
    @MrGeesikser 2 роки тому +1

    You need some pretty big balls to even consider going down there. I am diving all my life, not professionally though, but i would not go down there by any means.

  • @sucram1972able
    @sucram1972able 2 роки тому

    I remembered the news that day. All from the beginning. Why did it sunk really. Very very mysterious story.
    From beginning they wanted to cover the whole ship in concrete. Ehh why? Swedens Primeminister promised to take up the dead. Couple of days he was silent as a mussle. Very suspicious...
    I checked also the history. I have travel with that boat. Erlier it was a Viking Line ship called Viking Sally I think. I was traveling between Kapellskär to really don't remember I was 11 I think Helsinki or maybe Turku (Åbo in Swedish). I was 22 the year of the accident. The ship was also between Viking Sally and Estonia under another flag, southamerican, I'm old don't remember but I think so. And there was the paper that said. THIS SHIP IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAIL THIS AND THIS DISTANCE FROM LAND. That was why Viking Line problaby sold it because they discovered the safety was not in place. So the ship was sold with a restriction, they have to be near a coastline. That paper was "lost" and then it went in Estonian hands. And it hit a storm and was far away from coast. Which it was not allowed to be.

  • @juanjosuesalcedoa.6028
    @juanjosuesalcedoa.6028 2 роки тому +1

    Estonia Estonia😢😢😢

  • @ompwa5382
    @ompwa5382 3 роки тому

    Wasn’t this dive illegal?

    • @ompwa5382
      @ompwa5382 3 роки тому

      @Donkeye Ik but there was an illegal dive there not too long ofter it's sinking, to film a documentary. And the ones filming got jailed or something like that. There for I wanted to know if this was that dive...

  • @5084204
    @5084204 2 роки тому

    This tragedy was not thoroughly investigated. Many theories were marked as action-political-thriller and just dismissed without checking.

  • @brianpimblett657
    @brianpimblett657 3 роки тому

    Did they ever recover any of the bodies from inside the ferry?

    • @emilkarlsson4104
      @emilkarlsson4104 3 роки тому +1

      I have read that the professional divers that made the first dives got a no on renovering bodies because that would be to traumatic for them. Of course someone at a goverment desk knows bettet the limit of professionals then themself.

  • @evelinvohta6173
    @evelinvohta6173 10 років тому +1

    Were*

  • @cehaddunebuggy3899
    @cehaddunebuggy3899 8 років тому +7

    I thought diving expeditions were strictly off limits at this site?

    • @echocs
      @echocs 7 років тому +5

      Yes,It is

    • @micchecers
      @micchecers 7 років тому +8

      Céhad Dunebuggy it is but only for some countrymen. americans for example can dive but not swedes

    • @kristiankoski3908
      @kristiankoski3908 6 років тому +2

      Yes, but just for Finnish, Swedish, Estonian, Russian and British divers I think.

    • @D4rthDuck
      @D4rthDuck 5 років тому

      No they hunt down everyone who's trying to dive there

    • @chukwow5738
      @chukwow5738 3 роки тому

      D4rthDuck
      Yes, and guess why...

  • @CreativeHuckleBerry
    @CreativeHuckleBerry 4 роки тому +6

    when will there be investigation?

    • @kyostim
      @kyostim 4 роки тому +2

      They let time go on. They believe people trust on those "official reports". No programs in tv as if this happening would be some like "not to talk". If all would be interested to ask more about Estonia it maybe would be wide open area to reveal the truth for all what really happened.

    • @lentoturmahub8214
      @lentoturmahub8214 4 роки тому +1

      Creative Huckleberry Never, as the only people to doubt the report are conspiracy nuts.

    • @CreativeHuckleBerry
      @CreativeHuckleBerry 4 роки тому +3

      @@lentoturmahub8214 enyone with a freethinking brain knows the reports we got are not correct in enyway. None of the people that lost their lovedones in this, have got an real answear yet. Everything about this is a blatant coverup of a crime, and someday the people involved will be caught, that includes members in the swedish säpo/ericsson & the goverment. This specific boat was built to float even if it take's in water. The cardeck is isolated to the rest of the boat, it is specially made for accidents like this and if it would happen the boat will float and not sink becus of the high amount of compressed air inside. But if you put an explosive on the outside of the boat where the air is, the boat will sink just like it did if the explosion is put on the right place. In this case, an magnetic military grade detonator was placed on the rightside of the boat, and that's why the boat sunk so fast, you can ask eny boat builder. If this would even be possible that Estonia sank like it did, and im 100% sure you will get thesame answear, that it is impossible without help from an explosion or if the ship in enyway have been weakened in the air compartments of the boat.

    • @realitycredits64
      @realitycredits64 4 роки тому

      Creative Huckleberry It’s possible that estonian government sunk the ship to hide that they were selling soviet military equipment to Sweden. Estonia was very poor that time and needed money.

    • @lentoturmahub8214
      @lentoturmahub8214 3 роки тому

      @cristi dules :D

  • @KeyboardMoment
    @KeyboardMoment Рік тому +1

    Here comes my thalassophobia

  • @graysoceanworld5662
    @graysoceanworld5662 2 роки тому

    The Estonia should’ve sank longer than 50 minutes. 3 hrs should’ve bought time for the victims to escape

  • @SuperMerlot
    @SuperMerlot 9 років тому +1

    wasn't that ship supposed to be buried under concrete and rocks?

    • @KuriVaiM
      @KuriVaiM 9 років тому +3

      *****
      those who had most to gain from this tragedy were behind this ludicrous insane idea but most people were against it, so this idea finally failed

    • @freddanlindmark4895
      @freddanlindmark4895 9 років тому +6

      ***** It is not a rumour, they actually started to burie the wreck, but desided to stop beacuse of the growing opinion against it, and the complications with it.

    • @dggr3232
      @dggr3232 9 років тому +1

      SuperMerlot They started burying it because there are nuclear warheads aboard. Plutonium is very toxic.

    • @UWfalcin
      @UWfalcin 4 роки тому

      @@dggr3232 No no no and. They never started burying it. Nuclear warheads was never confirmed as being aboard during the sinking.

    • @UWfalcin
      @UWfalcin 3 роки тому

      cristi dules Dude, you can say that about literally anything. If it’s not verified you can’t confirm anything.
      Also the staff of the customs who themselves thought it was suspicipus and had a look only saw electronics.

  • @nickjones8867
    @nickjones8867 7 років тому +4

    RIP

  • @majcinex83
    @majcinex83 2 роки тому +1

    🤔zastanawiające jest to że nie można tam nurkować żeby czego nie znałeś obrażającego kogo i czego
    Podsypywanie tłuczniem sarkofag betonowy
    to wszystko dla czego po co
    Więcej jest tu pytań niż odpowiedzi
    Może kiedyś wypłynie prawda

  • @sarasinkkonen7850
    @sarasinkkonen7850 2 місяці тому

    RIP❤️ In Memoriam

  • @teijaalanko5165
    @teijaalanko5165 2 роки тому +1

    Very very sad, this is terrible everypade people's. Oh my good.⛴🕯⛴🕯💕⚘⚘⚘⚘🍃⚘⚘⚘⚘🍃🍃🕊🕯🕊🕯🕊🕯🕊🕯🕊🕯💕🌏

  • @ebikecnx7239
    @ebikecnx7239 Рік тому

    Big cover up of the truth, why no closure for the event? What did the hull damage?

  • @roneystapes
    @roneystapes 2 роки тому +1

    Those goggles don't look very convincing, just a rubber strap around your head, what if they knock them off, what would happen to their eyes, and then what, how on earth do you get them back on without water, hmm, loosing ones cool down there wouldn't help either?

  • @RobinTheMini
    @RobinTheMini 2 роки тому +1

    No peace until the crime is solved

  • @janisaksson5966
    @janisaksson5966 4 роки тому +1

    A great violation of human rights not to salvage the ship and all the people who died so horribly

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 4 роки тому +2

      Why would not salvaging the ship be a violation of human rights? Maybe it’s a cultural thing, but where I’m from salvaging a ship that people died on is considered disturbing their grave

    • @Skeptic2006
      @Skeptic2006 3 роки тому +1

      @@sirboomsalot4902 That is something I will never understand. Who exactly would it "Disturb" to send ROV's with high def cameras to investigate. I understand why not everyone is allowed to go dive there but I'm talking about professionals. I personally won't mind if someone would give my corpse to some lonely old pervert to fuck around with. I'm dead. Gone. It doesn't matter.
      Besides there's no bodies left there anymore.

    • @Skeptic2006
      @Skeptic2006 3 роки тому

      If it's so dumb why don't you explain why? Why is it illegal? It's a scene of a possible crime and it's forbidden to be investigated?
      Theres nobody there to be disturbed.

  • @nikotiittanen5745
    @nikotiittanen5745 5 років тому +9

    Did you see any bodies?

    • @kieliopinkuningas9577
      @kieliopinkuningas9577 5 років тому +4

      nikotiittanen Olet sairas./ You’re sick.

    • @guccimax4856
      @guccimax4856 4 роки тому +7

      @@kieliopinkuningas9577 Miten se on sairas jos se kysy yhen vitun simppelin kysymyksen? Ei se sanonu et "joo lähetä mulle kuva tosta ruumiista

    • @kieliopinkuningas9577
      @kieliopinkuningas9577 4 роки тому

      Kello2 Miten kysymyksen ”yksinkertaisuus” liittyy tähän yhtään millään lailla?

    • @kieliopinkuningas9577
      @kieliopinkuningas9577 3 роки тому

      syntikkamies Mahjonkia, mahjonkia.

  • @OlympiaMapping
    @OlympiaMapping 7 років тому +2

    is there any proof its acually the estonia wreck

    • @jakobhaastert4938
      @jakobhaastert4938 7 років тому +1

      HorrorGamer What? Why wouldn't it be?

    • @OlympiaMapping
      @OlympiaMapping 7 років тому +1

      i mean come-on the thing the in memory thing was not sideways so and the shipwreck is sideways

    • @CIubDuck
      @CIubDuck 5 років тому +3

      @@jakobhaastert4938 Because honestly it could be any shipwreck in the world that they could've filmed. Filming some rusty metal underwater and telling people it's M/S Estonia isn't really proof that it actually IS M/S Estonia. But it probably is, but there aren't much proof to support it. We just gotta trust the filmmaker.

    • @jakobhaastert4938
      @jakobhaastert4938 5 років тому

      Good Point.

    • @blutube_1234
      @blutube_1234 4 роки тому +2

      1:23 the place where the bow visor used to be and he remain of the ramp, hope thats enough proof

  • @ludwigandersson4682
    @ludwigandersson4682 2 роки тому

    Okay...

  • @thefluffyotter7532
    @thefluffyotter7532 2 роки тому

    Rip

  • @user-my1cg6tk1e
    @user-my1cg6tk1e 3 роки тому +2

    К нему же вроде запрещено спускаться. Правители что-то прячут.

    • @salomaonplanetsaturn6038
      @salomaonplanetsaturn6038 2 роки тому

      Это было в самом начале, когда смотрели тела и т.д

  • @assajonne237
    @assajonne237 4 роки тому +2

    Imadgine, you dive there and all of a sudden a Body falls In front of you=heart attack and death. Rest In peace

    • @kim__jong__un
      @kim__jong__un 4 роки тому +1

      there is no bodies there anymore! probably only bones. Sea is full of micro organisms and they eat bones also...

    • @Zackislivid
      @Zackislivid 2 роки тому

      @@kim__jong__un Nope, the baltic sea is very very cold, the skin is actually very squishy, the white bits floating in the water is human skin.

  • @Frankie431
    @Frankie431 5 років тому +1

    I wonder what kind of cargo is in there? Probably radioactive material?
    I love how the Norwegians, Brits and Russians we’re able to lift the Kursk out of the water but not this?

    • @jjgam3r2.09
      @jjgam3r2.09 5 років тому +1

      Frank M ikr? Like didn’t they bother to look at this as a hazard to the environment?? What about the 850 bodies that they didn’t bother to recover? How was it that the cargo area was fully filled with water before they actually noticed something was wrong? And especially with the safety technology that they had at the time to think that it still sank. Idk The entire thing is just kinda fishy to me.

    • @vonjager
      @vonjager 5 років тому

      Yeah.... and that's why you should let the pros make the decisions. You obviously don't know jack shit about the difference between the two.

    • @Frankie431
      @Frankie431 5 років тому +1

      vonjager why are you so mad? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @danielmoen9400
      @danielmoen9400 5 років тому +3

      He must be from swedish gouverment or something. Trying like hell to cover up the shit they did. Probably have a couple of guys being paid to be on internet and completely bash all critical voices. Sounds far fetch, but it won’t surprise me one bit if that is the case.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 4 роки тому +1

      Probably because the Kursk is significantly smaller than the Estonia?

  • @MrDodgeboy
    @MrDodgeboy 10 років тому

    There is several hundred people that were trapped in the ship. Only a hundred and something survived .

  • @baronlocal8569
    @baronlocal8569 6 років тому +6

    850 death

  • @mr.blackspack3089
    @mr.blackspack3089 10 років тому +3

    not estline but estonia

    • @kenthehuman08
      @kenthehuman08 4 роки тому

      Estline is the company that buy the Estonia

  • @PASKCAL-vp8vu
    @PASKCAL-vp8vu 4 роки тому

    Why this funck n lusic ?

  • @HypersonicWave
    @HypersonicWave 7 років тому +18

    0:45 Human remains lying near the wreck.

    • @toothless7849
      @toothless7849 7 років тому +4

      Shut up and stop spreading false information, you don't know what the hell that is.

    • @NJHS92
      @NJHS92 7 років тому +6

      it looks like a piece of cloth so he could very well be right, but its most likely a cover like the ones they use on trucks

    • @HypersonicWave
      @HypersonicWave 7 років тому +6

      NJHS92 Thank you, many people did go down with the ship like that. And infact, when a diver penetrated the bridge back in 1994 to search for the log books, he pulled out a female body by the head from near the broken window he was entering through it. It's on tape.

    • @iriinazoueva113
      @iriinazoueva113 7 років тому +4

      HypersonicWave Can you tell me how to find that tape?

    • @MarekKrassus53
      @MarekKrassus53 5 років тому

      @@iriinazoueva113 Do you really want to watch the rotting corpse of a poor catastrophe victim?

  • @eliismarie
    @eliismarie 7 років тому +7

    Im from in Estonia

    • @vonjager
      @vonjager 5 років тому +4

      Cool story.

  • @newslive4785
    @newslive4785 9 років тому +3

    My mom was on that boat, but days before it sank, on a trip from sweden to finland, sry for bad english

    • @rehnen6840
      @rehnen6840 8 років тому +1

      +xWOFTERx The ship went from Stockholm (Sweden) to Tallinn (Estonia), not from Stockholm to Finland.

    • @Itapirkanmaa2
      @Itapirkanmaa2 8 років тому

      +jacan98 No, the other way round, the ship was sailing from Tallinn to Stockholm when it sank.

    • @nj4689
      @nj4689 8 років тому +5

      +jacan98 he is saying that his mother was on ms Estonia when the ship went to whatever location he said before the disaster

    • @ndmz903
      @ndmz903 6 років тому

      Nik Eliseev it didnt go to finland days before.

    • @ndmz903
      @ndmz903 6 років тому

      Loltyler1 Highlight's the ship only sailed to tallin and back

  • @janasluth9607
    @janasluth9607 4 роки тому

    Ajka make

  • @gertrummo9007
    @gertrummo9007 3 роки тому

    I think all the ships need diving equipment in case the ship sinks like Estonia did. It makes it alot easier i mean minimal diving equipment for the people just in case. Invest goverment invest

    • @robj1510
      @robj1510 3 роки тому

      I don’t think that’s a viable solution. All the equipment would need serviced and people wouldn’t know how to use it and also fight over it if the ship went down

    • @gertrummo9007
      @gertrummo9007 3 роки тому

      @@robj1510 A ferry or a ship is big enough to carry the whole equipment for the crew and people + it would of be a unsinkable ship or a cruise ferry

  • @KuriVaiM
    @KuriVaiM 9 років тому +29

    this diver is co-conspirator, while you down there show us critical importance evidence from outside of the wreck, hole on side or larger image of bow doors area, instead this guy likes to do selfies