I believe this is one of the best talks Zoe has ever done. We need to get this watched by more people. So sad that we are sick as a world and at 53 in 20 years time, will I be able to buy my steak and liver.
Zoë’s great! Critical thinking needs to be taught in schools. I appreciate that she uses her bullsh&t detector when others would use “arguments from authority.”
I was beginning to feel that we had lost you Zoe. I thought you had run out on the whole health system thing. We need you darling. Please stay with us.
Thank you Julie Foucher. Long wordy, not as succinct as your guest, but all good, maybe worth your time to read...maybe not. But had to write the comment and post). That was a delight! 🏆👍Wow! Just seen video for first time 5/10/22. That was the most delightful interview guest I have ever heard here or any other UA-cam channel video. Only heard or saw the name Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD for second time now in less than 12hours. That was the most fascinatingly excellent hour and thirty or so minutes I can recall having in a good long while. Zoë (using her first name not out of disrespect for hard earned credentials, but perhaps as a causal friend, never met, but think highly clearly of her work)[she] had me gripped to watching and listening to the entire interview of because it was so rich with valued interpretations of her deep methodical research and analysis which was enthralling from beginning to end! That was phenomenal...to me, a lay person, ripe and ready like a sponge to try and absorb all that I was hearing her talk about and on. That interview to me was likened in comparison to maybe ones own favorite classical piece of music (if a person has such a particular favorite),...where a person saviors every note executed and played, and let the music simply move the listener who appreciates what they are hearing simply by its masterful composition. Zoë was that delightful (to me) to hear what she was saying and why she was saying it. And her take on what it means to her academic training way she employs to dissect information, with a skillful curiosity need to get to the etiology of something's substantive value in the end analysis . And did so in a way that drew me in all the more... to more carefully listen to what I was hearing. That was utterly amazingly enlightening. Sort Like a persons favorite book, they want to keep in/on their bookcase of favorites, where they may reeead time and again, for all that it brings to ones mental palate. To me that interview was like a fresh rain to hear Zoë speak volumes of information on the broad subject of nutrition as it relates from A to Z, from planter to plate and everyone's better health and so tactfully spoken, all linked and connected in the way she did and so grounded throughout in her words and even her own life as she described. I learned much, and will be replaying this video into my future "many times" for the valued way it was not only presented, but the very content to its core. That to me was the best video interview I have ever listen to. And I had a few that moved me (very thought provoking ones) and still do, but this video interview of Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD is my now number 1 in decades of my life to hit me so well. So, so very glad I heard this one...Julie, and to think I was only looking to pass the time till I could fall back asleep, as it was the early am hours, as I awoke at 3am only because turned in earlier than norm yesterday ...ie., simply from being genuinely good productive tired, because was engaged in activities that did tire me come sunset...a good thing...my come to life again renewed vigor to live my life again in years! This video was truly likened to me like that fine piece of music mentioned, to my ears. Thank you Julie for your interview of Zoë. Loved the perspective and the solid theme coverage where she linked and connected so many dots not always seen or heard in one talk, and was done so well. I am of a Keto-carnivore eating type diet only two months in, and the changes in and to my health physical, mentally...both cognitive improved functioning, my very demeanor and outlook, and activity levels, and on life is best it has been in, best off the cuff guess, since 2007! Truthfully said, on the square. There has been nothing but positives (for me) from day 3 or 4 health-wise and the first 3 days were super fantastic too as it was first time I was ever urged to eat meats I enjoy and I wanted, but always felt a sense of some guilt, and even some shame to eat even half that amount I was craving....and without even ever dieting or trying to, have dropped 20 pounds of weight effortlessly in those two months. Even my own personal family doctor of 20years and a casual friend outside his office, was totally taken aback seeing me only last week on a routine quarterly office visit. Of the amazing night as to day transformation and stats. Even more impressive was not him flattering me with praise of my doing so well at whatever I was doing but it was what he didn't say verbally that was clearly illustrated in his face and his demeanor as his nurse took the usual generic BP and pulse and oximeter readings it was almost seemed as if nurse was signaling to the doc not that the readings and no the equipment is fine...he just is better! And I was radiating what the instruments indicated. That was a priceless moment in time for me...and very welcomed...years in the coming. Nearly cashed in my chips before last week got here as Health was very bad and not improving no matter all the fruit and veggies I would eat I was getting worse every year nearly by the passing month, and in more steady and growing daily aches pain, and less mobility to where past two and a half years nearly in bed 22 of every 24 hours most days RA in knees so disabling walking got down to mere steps and feet...but not the last two months all made possible with only a diet change! No added drugs, no dieting, no protein shakes, and special supplements or any, etc.. last week just because it felt right and I wanted to, I walked a local walking trail 1/2 mile loop. No Ill effect then or afterward, and have done far more such things that have not been able to do for many years. Not exaggerated, rather factual and not on any pain meds..do take from 0-to maybe as high as 3 Tylenol's in a single day still, but the other day was a first time in 15+ years took "0" Zero Tylenol's that says volumes to low carbs effect verses my old diet. So I was entranced by all she spoke in that video, a lot was my living truths. And best weight I have been at since 2005-07. That is just so wild! And it was all my carb-loading that was making me sicker by the year! I am like Zoë expressed ...I honestly love a great salad with my steak, it always felt right to me and maybe will again in the future, but for now my carb intake is steady under 20 and actually happiest at 5-10 a Day works nicely for me presently. But I feel I am a born carnivore at heart and have been all my life and ate just the reverse, and struggled with health issues mildly at first expressed/manifested by my struggle with weight and sliding into obesity unable to put the brakes on, or find my off-switch to my un-satiating craving hunger that perpetually seemed could not be quenched or quelled for any significant time, be it daily and weekly exercising or not. And ate as I did (food selections when trying to hold the line) because I was told it such and such was healthy. Only believe the dogma because the "Zoë's" and the many others (academia professionals) I am only recently hearing from which were not heard in my trickle down information world for the many decades before,..in the way it is explained currently. And only second time in maybe 8 hours even heard the name Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD ...and now my number one of a about a dozen UA-cam video channels or their guests I hold in high esteem for their efforts in this nutritional genre as it relates from the soul on our planet to diseases that need not be that are being courted not to cure but medicate. Great Video. 🏆👍Fantastic Guest!
If we JUST stopped industrially growing grains and soy... We actually COULD reclaim the deserts as good grassland if absolutely everyone composted and the hydroponics enthusiasts would grow some grass destined for a happy cow's new home.
Muffin tins are great for baking rissoles in, it stops the fat from leaking out, when they have cooled store them in the fridge in the muffin pan in a large plastic container.
Enjoyed the conversation. One thing I find striking is how our perceptions of food drive habits…she eats meat but admits she would rather be vegan and i think everyone can relate to wanting carbs but there is something much different at work here where we hate the idea of killing an animal but will destroy the earth to make it happen…will never eat soy or corn again
I wouldn’t have so much gentleness about Keys or Sen. McGovern. (I’m really impressed: I’m a much nastier person than Zoe could ever be.) Between them they have caused more human misery than any other human beings short of totalitarian dictators… maybe more than many of them. Both of them were proud men unwilling to listen to those who disagreed. Keys destroyed Yudkin and others: evil. McGovern meant well but…
I’d like to know the history of dietary guidelines, did civilisations like the ancient Egyptians, Greeks and others have dietary guidelines and what were they?
I was a vegetarian for 27 years. I’ve seen the light and now understand the necessity of eating fish and meat. I unfortunately still have a huge problem with slaughter houses and the terror , anxiety and pain inflicted on the animals animals. Is there a solution to this problem or am I being to sensitive to this. It’s said if we all had to live the horror these places we would all be vegetarians Regards
Great interview but 42:40 is not really true, because cows transform their food into fatty acids and allegedly live 100% carb-free, at least according to a lecture of Dr. Anthony Chaffee iirc. Even gorillas are mostly living on fatty acids with about a quarter from carbo-hydrates.
Because they are also high in carbohydrates. I’ve not heard of Zoë expressing a concern over lectins (which can also be neutralized by pressure cooking you beans apparently.)
I really enjoyed this but when it got to the part about fibre I really wanted to hear something about its role in relation to pooping, surely we need to eat cellulose for that?
If you don't want to watch the entire video, here is a summary: Eat donuts. Lots and lots of donuts. But get a variety; jelly donuts, chocolate covered, glazed, donuts with sprinkles, donuts with powdered sugar, basically, you can't go wrong with any kind of donut. Round out your diet with candy such as snickers bars, almond joy, My&Ms, etc. And wash it all down with a Coke or Mountain Dew. If you start feeling low on energy during the day, have a cup of sugar. Don't eat meat because that will give you cancer.
Debate what? Zoe is interested in science she's not a zealot like vegans are. She was vegetarian for many years and turned to a LC lifestyle because of the science. The good evidence, the RCT's and metabolic pathways all point towards a low carb, higher fat, meat based diet as our natural, evolutionary diet.
@@johnnypenso9574 Yep Agree it will be an interesting viewing how she melts down "Vegan Experts" but you right, you can't debate vegans it's hard to battle with believes when you have only hard facts. It's really unfortunate as the Vegetarians and by extension, Vegans came from Religion ( Garden of Eden Diet ) promoted by Seventh-day Adventists
@@johnnypenso9574 id like to see a point by point debate as well. I listen to a vegan doc and they sound certain and convincing. For me, looking for a quality diet, I get a bit overwhelmed listening to Lc vs veg vs vegan. A debate is not a bad thing.
I respect Zoe but she's wrong on many counts. Promoting milk - no bona fide nutritionist would do that. Totally wrong about the effects of raising animals versus using land for plants.
Registered dieticians are indoctrinated, not trained, so no one should listen to a "bonified nutritionist". However, Zoe was not promoting milk, she pointed out most Caucasians tolerate milk pretty well but other groups have large percentages of lactose intolerant constituents. She is completely correct about raising animals versus growing crops, if anything she did not go far enough regarding the evils of mono-crop farming which include wasting millions of gallons of water, and fertilizer runoff caused by attempts to restore soil without the aid of ruminant animals.
@@ekondigg6751 your right but I would add that as insect are killed it cause the the collapse of the entire food Webb and that's find that crop fields are biodiversity desters
I have recently discovered Zöe and have quickly fallen in love with her work, not to mention she is very delightful to listen too.
Agree...she is so relatable. A brilliant science communicator which is both rare and precious!
Whoever hasnt seen her presentation om fiber you need to watch. Its hilarious and so informative.
Such a terrific interviewer! She actually lets her subject speak, instead of using the program as an opportunity to hear her own voice! So rare.
Agreed. I think it is more clever to answer quality questions rather than imposing your own knowledge.
Excellent interviewer. This is rare in this day and age. Thank you for taking the time.
At last, someone who will finally argue for the land as well as the human body. People will finally see the whole picture. Thank you Zoe.
I believe this is one of the best talks Zoe has ever done. We need to get this watched by more people. So sad that we are sick as a world and at 53 in 20 years time, will I be able to buy my steak and liver.
As always, Zoe talks so much sense.
Zoë’s great! Critical thinking needs to be taught in schools. I appreciate that she uses her bullsh&t detector when others would use “arguments from authority.”
Thank you for the podcast, I love Zoe Harcombe and I liked the way you conducted the interview. I look forward to watch at more of your videos.
Great interview.
I was beginning to feel that we had lost you Zoe. I thought you had run out on the whole health system thing. We need you darling. Please stay with us.
Keep up the good work forever, we need the lift.
Julie and Zoe, wonderful talk on dietary guidelines, thanks for this wonderful information!
Julie, great job! I deeply appreciate your, “show notes.”
You are a patient, skilled interviewer.
You have another subscriber. 🔔
...absolutely fascinating discussion, Zoe is such a brilliant mind, clearly my favorite by loads.
I'd love to watch discussion with Dr harcombe and taubes n teicholz
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Thank you Julie Foucher. Long wordy, not as succinct as your guest, but all good, maybe worth your time to read...maybe not. But had to write the comment and post). That was a delight!
🏆👍Wow! Just seen video for first time 5/10/22. That was the most delightful interview guest I have ever heard here or any other UA-cam channel video.
Only heard or saw the name Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD for second time now in less than 12hours. That was the most fascinatingly excellent hour and thirty or so minutes I can recall having in a good long while. Zoë (using her first name not out of disrespect for hard earned credentials, but perhaps as a causal friend, never met, but think highly clearly of her work)[she] had me gripped to watching and listening to the entire interview of because it was so rich with valued interpretations of her deep methodical research and analysis which was enthralling from beginning to end! That was phenomenal...to me, a lay person, ripe and ready like a sponge to try and absorb all that I was hearing her talk about and on.
That interview to me was likened in comparison to maybe ones own favorite classical piece of music (if a person has such a particular favorite),...where a person saviors every note executed and played, and let the music simply move the listener who appreciates what they are hearing simply by its masterful composition. Zoë was that delightful (to me) to hear what she was saying and why she was saying it. And her take on what it means to her academic training way she employs to dissect information, with a skillful curiosity need to get to the etiology of something's substantive value in the end analysis . And did so in a way that drew me in all the more... to more carefully listen to what I was hearing. That was utterly amazingly enlightening. Sort Like a persons favorite book, they want to keep in/on their bookcase of favorites, where they may reeead time and again, for all that it brings to ones mental palate. To me that interview was like a fresh rain to hear Zoë speak volumes of information on the broad subject of nutrition as it relates from A to Z, from planter to plate and everyone's better health and so tactfully spoken, all linked and connected in the way she did and so grounded throughout in her words and even her own life as she described.
I learned much, and will be replaying this video into my future "many times" for the valued way it was not only presented, but the very content to its core. That to me was the best video interview I have ever listen to. And I had a few that moved me (very thought provoking ones) and still do, but this video interview of Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD is my now number 1 in decades of my life to hit me so well.
So, so very glad I heard this one...Julie, and to think I was only looking to pass the time till I could fall back asleep, as it was the early am hours, as I awoke at 3am only because turned in earlier than norm yesterday ...ie., simply from being genuinely good productive tired, because was engaged in activities that did tire me come sunset...a good thing...my come to life again renewed vigor to live my life again in years! This video was truly likened to me like that fine piece of music mentioned, to my ears. Thank you Julie for your interview of Zoë. Loved the perspective and the solid theme coverage where she linked and connected so many dots not always seen or heard in one talk, and was done so well.
I am of a Keto-carnivore eating type diet only two months in, and the changes in and to my health physical, mentally...both cognitive improved functioning, my very demeanor and outlook, and activity levels, and on life is best it has been in, best off the cuff guess, since 2007! Truthfully said, on the square. There has been nothing but positives (for me) from day 3 or 4 health-wise and the first 3 days were super fantastic too as it was first time I was ever urged to eat meats I enjoy and I wanted, but always felt a sense of some guilt, and even some shame to eat even half that amount I was craving....and without even ever dieting or trying to, have dropped 20 pounds of weight effortlessly in those two months. Even my own personal family doctor of 20years and a casual friend outside his office, was totally taken aback seeing me only last week on a routine quarterly office visit. Of the amazing night as to day transformation and stats. Even more impressive was not him flattering me with praise of my doing so well at whatever I was doing but it was what he didn't say verbally that was clearly illustrated in his face and his demeanor as his nurse took the usual generic BP and pulse and oximeter readings it was almost seemed as if nurse was signaling to the doc not that the readings and no the equipment is fine...he just is better! And I was radiating what the instruments indicated. That was a priceless moment in time for me...and very welcomed...years in the coming. Nearly cashed in my chips before last week got here as Health was very bad and not improving no matter all the fruit and veggies I would eat I was getting worse every year nearly by the passing month, and in more steady and growing daily aches pain, and less mobility to where past two and a half years nearly in bed 22 of every 24 hours most days RA in knees so disabling walking got down to mere steps and feet...but not the last two months all made possible with only a diet change! No added drugs, no dieting, no protein shakes, and special supplements or any, etc.. last week just because it felt right and I wanted to, I walked a local walking trail 1/2 mile loop. No Ill effect then or afterward, and have done far more such things that have not been able to do for many years. Not exaggerated, rather factual and not on any pain meds..do take from 0-to maybe as high as 3 Tylenol's in a single day still, but the other day was a first time in 15+ years took "0" Zero Tylenol's that says volumes to low carbs effect verses my old diet. So I was entranced by all she spoke in that video, a lot was my living truths. And best weight I have been at since 2005-07. That is just so wild! And it was all my carb-loading that was making me sicker by the year! I am like Zoë expressed ...I honestly love a great salad with my steak, it always felt right to me and maybe will again in the future, but for now my carb intake is steady under 20 and actually happiest at 5-10 a Day works nicely for me presently. But I feel I am a born carnivore at heart and have been all my life and ate just the reverse, and struggled with health issues mildly at first expressed/manifested by my struggle with weight and sliding into obesity unable to put the brakes on, or find my off-switch to my un-satiating craving hunger that perpetually seemed could not be quenched or quelled for any significant time, be it daily and weekly exercising or not. And ate as I did (food selections when trying to hold the line) because I was told it such and such was healthy. Only believe the dogma because the "Zoë's" and the many others (academia professionals) I am only recently hearing from which were not heard in my trickle down information world for the many decades before,..in the way it is explained currently.
And only second time in maybe 8 hours even heard the name Dr Zoë Harcombe, PhD ...and now my number one of a about a dozen UA-cam video channels or their guests I hold in high esteem for their efforts in this nutritional genre as it relates from the soul on our planet to diseases that need not be that are being courted not to cure but medicate. Great Video. 🏆👍Fantastic Guest!
If we JUST stopped industrially growing grains and soy...
We actually COULD reclaim the deserts as good grassland if absolutely everyone composted and the hydroponics enthusiasts would grow some grass destined for a happy cow's new home.
Amazing conversation thank you 👏👏👏👏
Muffin tins are great for baking rissoles in, it stops the fat from leaking out, when they have cooled store them in the fridge in the muffin pan in a large plastic container.
I LOVE Zoe Harcombe....smart, funny and real ....
Fabulous interview. Both great Ladies
Bravo, Zoë! As always, beautifully articulate, passionate and logical.
Enjoyed the conversation. One thing I find striking is how our perceptions of food drive habits…she eats meat but admits she would rather be vegan and i think everyone can relate to wanting carbs but there is something much different at work here where we hate the idea of killing an animal but will destroy the earth to make it happen…will never eat soy or corn again
Zoë Harcombe doing a great job!
I wouldn’t have so much gentleness about Keys or Sen. McGovern. (I’m really impressed: I’m a much nastier person than Zoe could ever be.) Between them they have caused more human misery than any other human beings short of totalitarian dictators… maybe more than many of them. Both of them were proud men unwilling to listen to those who disagreed. Keys destroyed Yudkin and others: evil. McGovern meant well but…
An excellent talk that kept me occupied on a long trip. Thanks
This is awesome 👏 thank you 🙏
I’d like to know the history of dietary guidelines, did civilisations like the ancient Egyptians, Greeks and others have dietary guidelines and what were they?
39 seconds into the podcast episode and you have my like ! :)
Great Podcast ❤
Great Stuff It's Billion Dollar Industry The Food Chain but yes I Agree Top soil
I was a vegetarian for 27 years. I’ve seen the light and now understand the necessity of eating fish and meat. I unfortunately still have a huge problem with slaughter houses and the terror , anxiety and pain inflicted on the animals animals.
Is there a solution to this
problem or am I being to sensitive to this. It’s said if we all had to live the horror these places we would all be vegetarians
Regards
I ask vegetarians why and they often go i hate the idea of killing an animal as if there is no life cycle at work here
Great interview but 42:40 is not really true, because cows transform their food into fatty acids and allegedly live 100% carb-free, at least according to a lecture of Dr. Anthony Chaffee iirc. Even gorillas are mostly living on fatty acids with about a quarter from carbo-hydrates.
Our beautiful soil is turning to sand far too fast because of chemical herbicides and pesticides.
why cut out the legumes?
Because of lectins. Look up Dr Paul Mason on this topic.
Because they are also high in carbohydrates. I’ve not heard of Zoë expressing a concern over lectins (which can also be neutralized by pressure cooking you beans apparently.)
Lectins are made by your body...
PHD again.
Don't mix carbs and protein but recommends berries and yoghurt lol.
I really enjoyed this but when it got to the part about fibre I really wanted to hear something about its role in relation to pooping, surely we need to eat cellulose for that?
Actually fiber slows the pooping !
@@LaneCodeRedCarnivore how
@@rhlang11 it binds you up
Look at Dr Paul Mason he does a good talk on fibre.
Fiber increase risk for constipation and other discomforts of the gut.
The corporate forces want control!
Go Carnivore! Meatrx.com
Yep...in 1977, they had to do something so they did something stupid...
If you don't want to watch the entire video, here is a summary: Eat donuts. Lots and lots of donuts. But get a variety; jelly donuts, chocolate covered, glazed, donuts with sprinkles, donuts with powdered sugar, basically, you can't go wrong with any kind of donut. Round out your diet with candy such as snickers bars, almond joy, My&Ms, etc. And wash it all down with a Coke or Mountain Dew. If you start feeling low on energy during the day, have a cup of sugar. Don't eat meat because that will give you cancer.
I would love to see a Vegan expert debate with her point by point...Can you please arrange a debate .
Debate what? Zoe is interested in science she's not a zealot like vegans are. She was vegetarian for many years and turned to a LC lifestyle because of the science. The good evidence, the RCT's and metabolic pathways all point towards a low carb, higher fat, meat based diet as our natural, evolutionary diet.
@@johnnypenso9574 Yep Agree it will be an interesting viewing how she melts down "Vegan Experts" but you right, you can't debate vegans it's hard to battle with believes when you have only hard facts.
It's really unfortunate as the Vegetarians and by extension, Vegans came from Religion ( Garden of Eden Diet ) promoted by Seventh-day Adventists
@Johnny Penso
Hear, Hear! Veganism is a religion not science!
@@johnnypenso9574 id like to see a point by point debate as well. I listen to a vegan doc and they sound certain and convincing. For me, looking for a quality diet, I get a bit overwhelmed listening to Lc vs veg vs vegan. A debate is not a bad thing.
Have her go up against Mike the Vegan
I'd love to see Jordan Peterson interview her
I respect Zoe but she's wrong on many counts. Promoting milk - no bona fide nutritionist would do that. Totally wrong about the effects of raising animals versus using land for plants.
Registered dieticians are indoctrinated, not trained, so no one should listen to a "bonified nutritionist". However, Zoe was not promoting milk, she pointed out most Caucasians tolerate milk pretty well but other groups have large percentages of lactose intolerant constituents. She is completely correct about raising animals versus growing crops, if anything she did not go far enough regarding the evils of mono-crop farming which include wasting millions of gallons of water, and fertilizer runoff caused by attempts to restore soil without the aid of ruminant animals.
Let me guess... youre a Lacto intolerant Vegan?
@@Ron_the_Skeptic Right. Plus widespread mono-crop farming drives extinction of insects and other small animals.
@@ekondigg6751 your right but I would add that as insect are killed it cause the the collapse of the entire food Webb and that's find that crop fields are biodiversity desters
you couldn't grow your plants without animals fertilizing the land. If you don't like milk, don't drink it.