So the sky shredder path gives Pursuit HD which is INSANE And Demolition gunship gives Pursuit better crowd control and more damage, which is ALSO INSANE These are all noce arguments, senator, HOWEVER. THEY MADE PURSUIT PATROL, which basically REMOVES HIS INCONSISTENCY, making him basically OUTCLASS ACE PILOT TENFOLD
@ex0spher_e Earlier? Thats lvl 4,no way its earlier, some towers get it way faster However it does give HD to others within its range, like Ranger, Electroshocker or Harvester.
Well I see what’s happening tds pursuit got reworked to compete with Gattling gun after it got massively nerfed. Seems like the same exact situation with TDX when XWM turret got nerfed for helicopter to get added so helicopter can be a tower to compete with XWM turret.
Could you please elaborate on doesn’t have full hidden? Because the update also rebalanced commando giving him HD on his 2nd upgrade Edit: I just realized you meant by the rocket pods
@@OrangeNavy206he dosent but to combat that his missles have a huge radious and deal a ton of damage killing said hiddens, plus his missles work as mines so u can place them ahead of the path so the hidden can die
Oh boy! here comes the 5000th pointless argument between TDS and TDX fans FOR NO REASON! God I hate this small part of both communities. TDS fans always with the "You copied us! and TDX fans being "No you copied us!!!" like just SHUT UP!
To the people saying "TdS cOpIeD tDx" : they did NOT. John and below are friends and on GOOD terms. They share ideas. John most likely allowed below to port the rework. ALSO THEY BOTH COPIED BTD6 YOU DUMBOS AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING BECAUSE NOBODY CARES.
Gatling only needed a pierce nerf down to 2 enemies with the 2nd enemy receiving less damage so it would do about 1300 dps when hitting 2 enemies and 900 by itself. Nerfing its single target dps is pointless. Its single target was already abysmal compared to other dps towers.
it has lower dps than engi and accel, but still 1550 total dps on bottom path is insanely good thinking that it also has stun inmunity and brawler replacement mechanic
Welp, I certainly won't be surprised if pursuit ends up being too unbalanced. 1. The 2 paths system. TDS is already in a bad state for major changes in balancing, due to the fallen rework completely changing the meta. Now, with TDX's 2 path system, one path is often times inherently superior to the other path. The thing is, even without the 2 path system, TDS has similar problems. Let's take ranger & mortar. Despite getting ranger way sooner than mortar, ranger is just way better than mortar at everything; crowds, bosses, you name it. If the devs can't even balance towers correctly, giving them 2 paths will only make things worse. 2. All detections & stun immunity. Yeah, the fallen rework has made stuns more prevalent, I get that, but giving it all detections on one of the paths? That's too much. In general, giving a tower all detections usually always has to come with some huge catch. For engineer, it's that only the engineer herself can do that. For mercenary base, each individual unit can only handle 2 detections at most, with lead balloons still being a problem. You get it. With pursuit? Just spend money & win, there's DEFINITELY no problem with that. I'd suggest pursuit naturally have flight detection on level 0. Then, give hidden detection on one path, and lead detection on the more missile-oriented path.
Tbh the lead being only for missile path(without hiddens ofc, oh yea and buff the dps a lil bit for the explosion path) is pretty fair. I mean I use rangers and electroshockers already so its not like I even need lead piercing on the pursuits. I do wish that whatever nerf they give the pursuit, they do NOT lower it too much and ESPECIALLY DO NOT TOUCH ITS TARGETING SYSTEM with anything but bug fixes(cause it’s a lil buggy rn with the relocating ability).
Why 2 path's ? Just why??? We end up getting a crowd control and single target tower in one slot. That's a bit unstrategic and it's in my opinion not how tds should be...
John literally just stated that him and Below are on cool terms, so Below probably asked for permission to make it look like that Same goes for TDX's new Mobster tower
@@cheeseboiyes._. only look attack helo in TDX and now compare with this rework both are the same, paradoxum made a blatant copy of the helicopter with the same roads, same models of helicopters, paradoxum didn't bother to change anything, even the special buttons to move the helicopter are the same. They no longer know how to redesign something without copying it from another game, coming soon.... + blatant copies of other games and + skins that only those who have to buy hundreds of robux daily can buy, along with irrelevant updates -quality of life etc 💀 💀💀
Yeah, the color choices and the models end up looking dumb, like how the max top path (black and green helicopter) has a giant ass barrel heavier than the helicopter already, it looks dumb, and the max bottom path's rocket pods are way too damn oversized aswell.
all detection goes fire for hardcore
Ye this is op
They're preparing this for hc rework
sniper has it too
awarded for the loudest tower in TDS
So the sky shredder path gives Pursuit HD which is INSANE
And Demolition gunship gives Pursuit better crowd control and more damage, which is ALSO INSANE
These are all noce arguments, senator, HOWEVER. THEY MADE PURSUIT PATROL, which basically REMOVES HIS INCONSISTENCY, making him basically OUTCLASS ACE PILOT TENFOLD
Ace gets HD earlier at least
@ex0spher_e Earlier? Thats lvl 4,no way its earlier, some towers get it way faster
However it does give HD to others within its range, like Ranger, Electroshocker or Harvester.
Kinda like golden ace
Still earlier HD ace pilot is cheaper@@M0gicus
Another ace rework 😏
Literally this bout to be #1 tower for hardcore 💀💀🙏
I still think it's dumb that both max levels end up being the exact damn helicopter, being the Comanche.
Ikr, it's the same thing with barely any changes
It thier first time doing something like this tho, so it understandable also it still looks cool tho
They still look overall cool as hell.
It just make the tower unique and balance, i think just make it over power is better than this
Yeah one of the paths at least could've been an Invictus so it could be a little different
Well I see what’s happening tds pursuit got reworked to compete with Gattling gun after it got massively nerfed. Seems like the same exact situation with TDX when XWM turret got nerfed for helicopter to get added so helicopter can be a tower to compete with XWM turret.
And after all of that, the commando still doesn’t have full lead detection
Could you please elaborate on doesn’t have full hidden? Because the update also rebalanced commando giving him HD on his 2nd upgrade
Edit: I just realized you meant by the rocket pods
I didn’t see on the update log that commando had hidden
@@OrangeNavy206he dosent but to combat that his missles have a huge radious and deal a ton of damage killing said hiddens, plus his missles work as mines so u can place them ahead of the path so the hidden can die
best tower in hc Istg. But can we appreciate that design? Like the original pursuit looked like a toys rus toy. But now it looks FIRE
6:27 those molten titans lookin a bit different dont you think?
Yup those molten reworks are coming
AND THEY FINALLY FIX IT SHITTY TARGETING
to be honest to myself (not trying be a hater on tds or anything) the heil rework 0 level, max 1 and max 2 is just an version of tdx but diffrent
The Helis exist irl
@@Ivan-ty1ws so why didnt tds use a differet heli there are thousands of them irl also hes talking game design not look maybe idk.
Oh here come the tdx fanboys trying to start controversy with the “tds copied tdx” thing
@@alericoldhamthe devs share ideas, i mean cmon John just released a post for a tower similar to crookboss
Oh boy! here comes the 5000th pointless argument between TDS and TDX fans FOR NO REASON! God I hate this small part of both communities. TDS fans always with the "You copied us! and TDX fans being "No you copied us!!!" like just SHUT UP!
Pursuit is actually insane, S tier tower (yeah im glazing, I don't care)
To the people saying "TdS cOpIeD tDx" : they did NOT. John and below are friends and on GOOD terms. They share ideas. John most likely allowed below to port the rework. ALSO THEY BOTH COPIED BTD6 YOU DUMBOS AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING BECAUSE NOBODY CARES.
Nah bro, Rampart the very first tower defence game from 1990. btd copied from them🤑
Tds copy tdx comment = brainrot skibidi gyatt
Fr man, they said "this game copy other game" but they dindt realize that all game copy from other game
...
"ThIs ToWeR uPgRaDe PaTh LoOk SiMiLaR tO kInGdOm RuSh"
Why do his moltens look different
Pretty sure this is still in testing so the new models of molten are added the boss is not finished yet so they used the old model
Molten rework is next
I was wondering since I was playing intermediate and the hazmats were different
Ah gotcha i see that now it says molten rework next week at the bottom of the update log
I was scared this would happen, and it happened!😂😂
Yay finally a rework for pursuit :) 🐢🔥🔥
The void reaver was left with 100k life with only 8 accel 7 rangers 1 dj red and ace pilots and 10 pursuit
Guess Pursuit was the second tower to change placement along with Brawler
People bought the hexcape pass without black friday ( like me)
👇💀😭
bro your STILL like begging at almost the end of 2024
IM DYING
I got it free😇
Theres a bug thats enemys body stand still and the hitbox still moves so basically there invisible
I couldnt see the nuclear monster and we lost towers just ahooting at air
@@Doedi3d exactly
RIP old pursuit placement sound
Commando buffs are insane too
😂😂
They put big nerf to gatlin gun but for poursuit big buff bro gatlin doesn't need a nerf
It needed to be nerfed
Gatling only needed a pierce nerf down to 2 enemies with the 2nd enemy receiving less damage so it would do about 1300 dps when hitting 2 enemies and 900 by itself. Nerfing its single target dps is pointless. Its single target was already abysmal compared to other dps towers.
the fact u can place it anywhere is so broken
Finally my old favorite tower is good again
It costs 15k to buy once u get lvl 100 so have fun people who didnt get it yet xd
@@Winty-SkyYT honestly not a lot, people should have a lot of coins saved when going to 100 cause there's not many coin towers left
@@noah_dusk skin crates/gold crates/warden/etc
Half of the stuff you listed aren't even nesscary
@@Winty-SkyYTthe only valid u point here is golden crates lol
Accelerator's downfall needs to be studied- Oh wait, It already has! By multiple TDS UA-camrs!
it has lower dps than engi and accel, but still 1550 total dps on bottom path is insanely good thinking that it also has stun inmunity and brawler replacement mechanic
bottom?
New pursuit has 2 upgrade paths@@alericoldham
it destroys the Gatling and it’s cheaper
Bro this upd increased the merc base placement cost
Let the community should make a better skins than the hardcore towers.
my pursuit wont fire because its scared to shoot
Moltens look different also
the update just dropped and bros on it
it sure is going to turn out good when u take notes from the competitor!
so true
Indeed, glad to see both games cooperating with each other.
John legit posted a teaser of a crook boss-like tower dude, they both copy each other
@@GodzillaMinusOne-ft8fdi think you misunderstood me brother
@@DummyDumDumand i dont want tdx to do that shit either, tdx should strive to be its own thing
Molten rework leaked?!
Yes (though its just testing for now)
I'm pretty sure tds took "h e a v y" inspiration from tdx with the mechanics and how it functions.
both copied from real life
I’m just gonna call it and say pursuit is getting nerfed in the future
I played it on molten wbut why does the enimies look different than mine even though I was using reworked pirsuot
your map doesnt have enemies beta modifier
Why they love pitching the sounds?
Guys we gotta pretend pursuit is trash so below doesn’t nerf it again🙏🙏
we got path upgrades in tds now?
Bro leaked some molten rework eniems
Welp, I certainly won't be surprised if pursuit ends up being too unbalanced.
1. The 2 paths system. TDS is already in a bad state for major changes in balancing, due to the fallen rework completely changing the meta. Now, with TDX's 2 path system, one path is often times inherently superior to the other path. The thing is, even without the 2 path system, TDS has similar problems. Let's take ranger & mortar. Despite getting ranger way sooner than mortar, ranger is just way better than mortar at everything; crowds, bosses, you name it.
If the devs can't even balance towers correctly, giving them 2 paths will only make things worse.
2. All detections & stun immunity. Yeah, the fallen rework has made stuns more prevalent, I get that, but giving it all detections on one of the paths? That's too much. In general, giving a tower all detections usually always has to come with some huge catch. For engineer, it's that only the engineer herself can do that. For mercenary base, each individual unit can only handle 2 detections at most, with lead balloons still being a problem. You get it.
With pursuit? Just spend money & win, there's DEFINITELY no problem with that. I'd suggest pursuit naturally have flight detection on level 0. Then, give hidden detection on one path, and lead detection on the more missile-oriented path.
Shhh delete this before below sees
Tbh the lead being only for missile path(without hiddens ofc, oh yea and buff the dps a lil bit for the explosion path) is pretty fair. I mean I use rangers and electroshockers already so its not like I even need lead piercing on the pursuits. I do wish that whatever nerf they give the pursuit, they do NOT lower it too much and ESPECIALLY DO NOT TOUCH ITS TARGETING SYSTEM with anything but bug fixes(cause it’s a lil buggy rn with the relocating ability).
This rework is way better than the commando rework
No shit it’s an ever green tower
*MOLTEN REWORK?!?!?!?*
Did it just come out?
6:09 is nobody mentioning THE NEW MOLTEN TITANS?!
what about the moltens themself? 0:01
They were the old ones for me when i was playing molten
@@malikabdul7171same
@@malikabdul7171its in testing i think
It just looks so realistic i didnt much liked that version of design
tdx attack helo went through the wrong portal and ended up in tds
Hmmm... i smell a nerf on the way.
That's a buff!
attack helo 👀
tdx helicopter basicly bc it look like the apache and comache plus level ze r o
The helis exist IRL
No they copied the helicopter from tdx smh@Ivan-ty1ws
@@Ivan-ty1ws yeah why did tds not use a different heli then tdx there are thousands of them they could have chose instead.
At least pursuits can be buffed
Tds had this design first? It just had a different color scheme
No Audio 😢
Mmmmm, coool ! The tds copies the mechanics of the tdx !
Tower blitz upgrade Two path 💪
They killed gatling now galting is useless
Why 2 path's ? Just why??? We end up getting a crowd control and single target tower in one slot. That's a bit unstrategic and it's in my opinion not how tds should be...
why is your base hp red
You can change the color in settings
4 k dps in total 😮
with commander 5500-6000 🤯
AIR SUPERIORITY!!!
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insane rework
it looks like tdx heli?
I just wish it could find something unique is all.
John literally just stated that him and Below are on cool terms, so Below probably asked for permission to make it look like that
Same goes for TDX's new Mobster tower
They aren’t exactly copies
Arent both tdx and tds copies of btd6 tho?
@@Ralse-g2l ur not wrong
@@Ralse-g2l no not even close
This is tdx
your woman hot
How much it cost? I mean to buy it with coins.
U got to be lvl 100
Level tower no coins just get to lvl 100. You CAN buy it with robux, but its in case you really cant wait.
Ty guys
Update log says you need to be level 100 and then you can buy it for 15k coins
It's cost 15k coins and lvl 100
Hol up, why the pursuit just like the helicopters from tdx, and have two path too🤨🤨
Bottom path is pretty mid tbh
Pretty sure they copied tower blitz in uprades idk
Nooooo tds is copying tds
It then again tdx’s concept is a copy of tds
And the towers are almost the same some are the same but different looks
57 min gang
Not first
Btd6 rip off ☹️
Looks like crap
TDX copy 💀💀
Womp Womp 😂
Kids arguing about tds copyingn tdx and vice-versa💀
@@cheeseboiyes._. only look attack helo in TDX and now compare with this rework both are the same, paradoxum made a blatant copy of the helicopter with the same roads, same models of helicopters, paradoxum didn't bother to change anything, even the special buttons to move the helicopter are the same. They no longer know how to redesign something without copying it from another game, coming soon.... + blatant copies of other games and + skins that only those who have to buy hundreds of robux daily can buy, along with irrelevant updates -quality of life etc 💀 💀💀
First
it looks ugly tbh
Yeah, the color choices and the models end up looking dumb, like how the max top path (black and green helicopter) has a giant ass barrel heavier than the helicopter already, it looks dumb, and the max bottom path's rocket pods are way too damn oversized aswell.
couldn't agree more
Skins will come out
I dont like that the gatling gun and machine guns are so big it looks goofy
First
You ain’t first boy
Guys say nothing if you don't like this comment please
@@M8aaa802no i am fella
@@michakitlarz1639 i was like 10 seconds faster💀