THANKS FOR 2K SUBS!!! Also, I always forget to post the discord so here it is 8 hours after initially uploading. Better late than never discord.gg/UWP8uexd (I had a severe time crunch, parts like 2:30 accidentally went without clips and I didn't have time to fix them after processing. I'm on a road trip right now as I write this).
Adding more settings options to reduce lag for mobile is probably the solution, example: option to disable animations, particles and maybe very low graphics mode.
*If TDS had a More Options* - Reduced Zombie Animations - Reduced Tower Animations - No VFX - No Particles - Low Detail Mode - Plain Texture (turns all texture into smooth classic 2019
i hate the enemy spam wave structure modern day tdx and tds are using, it hurts my eyes and i cant even see what am i fighting against which makes all the time spent animation and texturing those enemies worthless
i feel like tower defense games these day(i am a tower defense genre player)is just enemy ultimate spam in the later waves. The part where you need to strategise is just the early game, in the late game, you just spam dps tower and crowd control towers.
Good video and everything u mention is not just the problem... its also the community demanding faster updates giving the devs potentially less time to optimize the game and even if ur phone or tablet has good specs like 6 to 12 gigs of ram at the end of the day even at 1 graphics ur device will still turn into a makeshift furnace
Old ui suits for every platform, and no useless animations when you choose towers, and the thing in setting called "ui scale" only change the size of the setting panels and nothing else.
funny enough tds gained its early popularity mostly because it was a tb but available on mobile (tb didnt had mobile support back in the days) now days tds is kinda unplayable on mobiles
The devs practically don’t care about mobile phones or tablets especially tablets. Half of my screen is covered by the player list and it’s not possible to remove the player list on tablet
when i was doing the hexscape event i couldn’t do hard mode because my game keeps crashing and at the time for some reason the rejoin button didn’t work when hexscape event came out and the rejoin still doesn’t work so it kinda makes the game unplayable i still can do fallen but events just crash so it force me to pay for the towers which is a smart move i guess or just a bug
I couldnt get triumpher of all nights cus night 3 would make me crash so much. Especially with the towers aswell. They need “bullet trails” toggle to turn of flames, fallen engis turrets and accel lazers. Etc. that is the main probelm aswell. But honestly stop the enemy spam
As well as having low quality effects I think there should be an option to disable them entirely, that would actually be so helpful🙏 Also great video :)
It's nice the game is high quality but it used to be super blocky and simple now there are too many animations going on and the models are quite complex. This makes especially mobile players experience this.
@@engineergaming8272 Dang, night 3 was laggy for nearly everybody but I know mobile was so bad you pretty much had to bring purely raw DPS and couldn’t use any abilities
TDS got so over detailed, the designs from 2020 to 2021 were simplistic and worked well but nowadays there is so many things added on to just One tower and zombie.
This is why sometimes i prefer dd than tds, my old laptop cant handle that much of enemies and effects, in the other side, dd keep it simple and is much more accesible for low power devices, and the game has cool things like the mastery system and side modes
I don’t wanna risk getting the leaves of death by accidentally leaving some illegal mod on, safe mode that probably will come with mod support would be awesome
Mobile : Enemy running in place Laggy as hell Can’t even perform Gatling well I had to use the iPhone 15 ( I used iPhone 13 and I crashed when I got too close to the boss ) in order not to get crashed out during the Hexscape night 3 and the boss just moans so much and so laggy too and for some reason u can’t rejoin the game if u disconnect , that’s so inconvenient bro and the dps bug nowadays too
Dayum i will hate TDS for doing these making me lag for 2 years, i quit 1 year. They are completely wrong, because the lag is the reason why 2021 is 30k online player everyday and now is 10k everyday. Because the device limitations, me and my friend are struggles to play TDS too. For example, why would a person play a game that lags and crash that making them rage (me too), they will just play other that fun and not lag because why not??? (Me too) For someone thinking i dont play TDS and saying this comment, i already lvl280+ so yah. I really miss the days before thats is no lag and i can play happily with friends 😭 For more examples, when you are about to triumph in TDS but the lag make you cant use ability that easily and limited you original strength and skill, just because of lag and your teammate blame you because you have a weak control in lag and even just making player lose hope from this game !!! Nowadays i still can see random people crash in game frequently include me in fallen mode, new event, hardcore, polluted watseland 2, badlands 2 and last of most, hidden wave.
un amigo literalmente no pudo pasarse la noche 3 porque siempre se le crasheaba el roblox en la ronda 30 (y solo le pasaba en la noche 3, en los demas modos nunca le paso algo parecido)
intro is, interesting to say the least (its good) my ipad makes the game run smoother at all times at the cost of the memory being higher than the price of gatling gun and golden crates subbed
I think to fix every single current issues in tds devs need to recreate entire tds from 0 to fix everything note: that's not only lag but also including, optimization, balance, outdated code (Im not sure if some code is still outdated), bugs that coming out of nowhere and etc.
Yeah tds rn has alot of stuff going on rn then before. There’s more coloring,lighting,graphics and animations while old tds was simple. And we’ll mobile friendly and I try to play tds yet to this day but it lags and it won’t last long.
me when tower makes a damage and range calculation 50 times a second, enemies are making calculations of their new positions, and its combined with ultra high quality (for roblox) assets like particles, models, animations combined with wacky optimization and roblox servers. Then people wonder why is game laggy, yeah I wonder 🤔
They still add to many details, like the blender models are super super detailed when you look up close when 99% of people don't even see. It's good they try hard and make things high quality but some are uncessary lobbies are supposed to be simple. And it takes 30 seconds to load in sometimes. I ain't complaining I can wait, but this compared to other roblox games is kinda bad.
I don’t understand why people even play on mobile, it has less space to see, yes it May be small so it Can be transported, but that means less storage due to size
I mean its good to see a high quality game but this prevents me from spamming dps which is crucial for hard modes,however,id rather play tds with ttd graphics than lagging and crashing constantly lol
I have a iPhone 9 and you know it’s supposed to be lagging when it’s an iPhone, specially if it’s so old and when I play tds it goes smooth as butter the night 3 did not have any lag in it in my experience
@@I-love-food7777 Oh wow, lag is totally a situational thing. Some people lag on even newer phones and some don’t lag even on older phones like yours. I think it depends on the OS and all that stuff, not sure but glad you don’t suffer from any lag issues
The low FPS isn't really that much annoying but what's annoying is the upgrade UI takes a long time to load when you click a tower. Back in the days, even when you're lagging, the upgrade ui would instantly pop up when u click a tower but today that's not the case...
Its mainly the parts/models that load in the game itself, models use polygons which are performance-heavy. Public servers in tds have a lot of players and alot can cause lag, the amount of polygons and animations can hinder performance. Particle emitters or just particles itself are also kind of performance-heavy too. To just prevent this issue, I honestly suggest to the tds developers is to add entity/model culling which makes it where what you see, is the what the game renders which can help. I dont know if tds uses pbr textures but they should add an option to use smooth plastic material to everything. Particles should have a None- Low-Medium-High emitting option, its already implemented in the graphics quality settings in roblox. Automatic animation reducer which makes animations run slower just snapping inbetween frames/keyframes like its stop motion. If those do get added and it still lags, at that point, just get a new device.
TDS is most likely not using a script for each little thing and uses modules network which is controlled by a few number of scripts. When looking at performance we need to look at CPU, GPU, Network, RAM, etc to try and see where the lag is coming from and then consider what changes can be made to use less resources on a certain aspect. From what I've seen, most of tds's lag comes from RAM or CPU. Here are some bonus areas of lag or elaboration on some things. Potential GPU lag: I have a laptop and tds performs the same on all graphics levels for me so its probably not a graphics problem. Animations run like garbage in viewport frames though, so any 3d models part of gui are sort of laggy. Potential RAM problems: TDS has a lot of unique 3d models and textures which use a lot of ram (ESPECIALLY TEXTURES). Also with more audios (like with voice acting), there's more lag. Potential Network problems: TDS processes everything on the server, and then fires a remote event constantly to players so that the client can do the visuals like shoot the gun, play enemy death anims, make the numbers of enemy health bars appear to go down and much more. These updates can come 40 times a second since the server runs at around 40fps. If theres a lot of fast-fire rate towers and lot of enemies to update, it can be a lot of data at once and cause network lag. However since the server updates so slow a lot of guesswork is done so things end up mostly correct and this optimizes the game somewhat limiting the server-client updates to 40 times a second. This comes at the cost of the fire rate bug though. Potential CPU problems: Too many calculations with enemies and towers, especially when finding targeting, explosions, and chaining. Although most of these would be happening on the server and causing that lag instead. The client CPU lag could possibly be from too much going on at the same time. Roblox itself is sort of poor at handling things between the CPU and GPU so the CPU can be doing more work it needs in the wrong places which is bad for a complicated game like TDS.
I didn't go over that many things in the video now that I think about it thanks to this comment, those are extremely good points that I never thought about
The lag made me rage quit tds because the mecha Santa boss lunar overture and night 3 I lag out of the game on mobile when I would have beaten it and it has made me really hate doing tds events. My mobile device can handle the main game just not the events
I have both an iPhone 13 and 11 and the only issue I have is loading the DAMN EXPERIENCES BECAUSE I HAVE TO RELOAD ROBLOX 50 TRILLION TIMES FOR THE SERVER BUTTONS TO WORK
lots of meshes, models, and unions are super laggy, add more and it will cause bugs, in studio, you dont face that much bugs until you publish the game you are working on, since its in the roblox platform, these meshes, models, and unions can break the game. This is what I think since I have been scripting and building in roblox studio, TDS has a lot of meshes, (and all of that stuff) that we can see, this is one of their problems (I think...)
I actually never had any audio in that part, it was edited in with denoise + hum removal to make it sound like it was coming from my phone. Then obviously my voice was added on top of it. I had the GT theme just sitting around on my PC so I decided to use it
Tds needs fast mode for low devices.... Like i have both a phone and a pc. İ can beat molten in 11:40 on my pc But it takes at least 14 mins on mobile because of lag
My console can handle rdr2 without lagging but it still lag in THE LOBBY OF TDS! Also it lags more than my phone who can't even handle a polluted wastelands match at more than 10 fps
In tdx, you literally have to have a decent computer to play endless if your teammates bring warship, as there is no way to disable the warship explosion effect
I don't think so, the TDX works much better for me than the TDS and my cell phone doesn't overheat. My cell phone is a Motorola with 4 RAM and a processor that even the brand doesn't know.
@@romixtherealone its actually my computer, its like over 5 years old 😭 and my 2 year old phone runs at like 50 - 70 fps while that computer runs at like 1 - 25 fps
Both attempted to wipe out a race, both are from the same general area, both found that their targets were plaguing the earth. It’s just him there’s no catch
![I Speedran EVERY MODE in TDS... [70,000 DPS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OgBKh5Yz-zE/mqdefault.jpg)
THANKS FOR 2K SUBS!!!
Also, I always forget to post the discord so here it is 8 hours after initially uploading. Better late than never discord.gg/UWP8uexd
(I had a severe time crunch, parts like 2:30 accidentally went without clips and I didn't have time to fix them after processing. I'm on a road trip right now as I write this).
cool intro im new new sub
@@soloshuptomobile1605 yay people like it :D
Both the TDS link & your merch link don't work, but with that aside great video!
@@eastwood34 I’ll fix the merch link ASAP (I’m on a road trip at the moment) but thanks a lot! ❤️
Adding more settings options to reduce lag for mobile is probably the solution, example: option to disable animations, particles and maybe very low graphics mode.
Exactly what I said, yup
That's why when tds adds a lot of stuff like graphics, I say, "tds cooks so hard that I can feel the heat in my device"
Maybe not disable animations tho
@@GODLYOOFUS Oh yes definitely optional animations.
Like remove all special effects or remove all particles
*If TDS had a More Options*
- Reduced Zombie Animations
- Reduced Tower Animations
- No VFX
- No Particles
- Low Detail Mode
- Plain Texture (turns all texture into smooth classic 2019
It will become like toilet tower defence:/
@@InfernalUrsinelike ttd? bro even with all of these tds still will look better than ttd
@@meskonyolsen6657 Nice ideas!
Also hide towers
Horrible idea, you basically just get rid of the entire game with those settings
I legit lag on iphone when playing tds it’s so stupid
even 1 graphic bar it’s going 15 fps
That is the same thing that happens to me bruh.
i have just encountered the risen
Play and pray
I run like 100 fps on my ipad that is cracked many times and is slowly eroding
Your iPhone SUCKS bruh 😭
i hate the enemy spam wave structure modern day tdx and tds are using, it hurts my eyes and i cant even see what am i fighting against which makes all the time spent animation and texturing those enemies worthless
@@ram3063 Bloons does it well, but it feels a little much in TDS
Tds on is way worse have you seen night 3💀(still good opinion)😃👍
TDS one*
@@romixtherealone bloons makes it work because bloons has a unique health system
tdx chapter 4 waves 1 - 3
i feel like tower defense games these day(i am a tower defense genre player)is just enemy ultimate spam in the later waves. The part where you need to strategise is just the early game, in the late game, you just spam dps tower and crowd control towers.
that's not always the case
hidden wave:
the only game that has a reason to do that (popular game) is tdx since they only have one programmer which makes making enemies a lot harder
@@adcr5yt for tdx, you also need to strategiesa lot in later waves, as there are multiple types of enemy wotb different resistance
"laggiest boss fight in gaming history"
haha.. you guys remember Cold Construct chapter 4 from TBZ..?
@@temmiummmr8653 Y’know I wish my memory of TBZ wasn’t as much of a blur, that too though I completely forgot
oh.. the horror
This was worse
Tower Blitz mentioned
Mechanical Arbiter called out enemy rush and Glacius moment
i loved trying to unfreeze my towers in 2 fps gameplay
Good video and everything u mention is not just the problem... its also the community demanding faster updates giving the devs potentially less time to optimize the game and even if ur phone or tablet has good specs like 6 to 12 gigs of ram at the end of the day even at 1 graphics ur device will still turn into a makeshift furnace
Literally quit this game because of lag, and i switch to TDX. But now that i upgrade my PC i still play TDX, because TDS just feel weird now
Tdx players will somehow find a way to mention their game when the topic wasn’t even about it 😭
@@Pixolotl_26?? the vid also mentioned tdx
@@4ryd511ye I mentioned TDX, although TDX players like to mention the things they have over TDS
@@Pixolotl_26 It's because TDX is much more optimised than TDS
@@romixtherealone isn't that the same for TDS fanbase, although at a much lower rate
This is part of the reason why i ended up preferring TDX more, it never lagged from my experience (endless obviously does though)
Classic Experience on Fallen
Early Game: No Lag.
Mid Game:Getting A Little Laggy
Late Game:################
Yes I am
Old ui suits for every platform, and no useless animations when you choose towers, and the thing in setting called "ui scale" only change the size of the setting panels and nothing else.
funny enough tds gained its early popularity mostly because it was a tb but available on mobile (tb didnt had mobile support back in the days) now days tds is kinda unplayable on mobiles
The devs practically don’t care about mobile phones or tablets especially tablets. Half of my screen is covered by the player list and it’s not possible to remove the player list on tablet
Bro what? There's no player list at all for me. You're device must be trippin
@@torned2536your on phone?
@@torned2536 it’s iPad
when i was doing the hexscape event i couldn’t do hard mode because my game keeps crashing and at the time for some reason the rejoin button didn’t work when hexscape event came out and the rejoin still doesn’t work so it kinda makes the game unplayable i still can do fallen but events just crash so it force me to pay for the towers which is a smart move i guess or just a bug
They NEED to fix the rejoin button, but it was prob removed because you could do the tower swapping glitch
I couldnt get triumpher of all nights cus night 3 would make me crash so much. Especially with the towers aswell. They need “bullet trails” toggle to turn of flames, fallen engis turrets and accel lazers. Etc. that is the main probelm aswell. But honestly stop the enemy spam
3:36 WHY IS JERRY EVERYWHERE
@@Matt-k1u You know the place.
@@romixtherealoneWell anyways, back then life was goin swell and everything was JUSSSST PEACHY!
As well as having low quality effects I think there should be an option to disable them entirely, that would actually be so helpful🙏
Also great video :)
@@Nedward0 Remove particles is one I forgot about mentioning too, also thanks
one of the highest quality tds videos, amazing work.
Thanks :)
It's nice the game is high quality but it used to be super blocky and simple now there are too many animations going on and the models are quite complex. This makes especially mobile players experience this.
I don’t have any device that lags from tds
As I said in the video l, an LDM would be so nice. TDS is too high quality not to have a low detail mode
the optimization was so bad that most mobile player included me couldn't even beat hexscape night 3
@@engineergaming8272 Dang, night 3 was laggy for nearly everybody but I know mobile was so bad you pretty much had to bring purely raw DPS and couldn’t use any abilities
TDS got so over detailed, the designs from 2020 to 2021 were simplistic and worked well but nowadays there is so many things added on to just One tower and zombie.
they try to make a game with 2024graphics but with codes from 2019-2020
that 4 or 5 years bro
if you cant take good details then quit the game
@ What detail? 😭 Almost half the maps look ass nowadays
2:58 the low quality game theory intro is so fire
This is why sometimes i prefer dd than tds, my old laptop cant handle that much of enemies and effects, in the other side, dd keep it simple and is much more accesible for low power devices, and the game has cool things like the mastery system and side modes
comparing lag from 2019 to 2024 is crazy
0:58 Ninja Kiwi mentioned1!1!!!!1!!!
I don’t wanna risk getting the leaves of death by accidentally leaving some illegal mod on, safe mode that probably will come with mod support would be awesome
I am using netflix version so no modes for me sadly
This needs to be talked about more, making developers take a moment to optimize their video game
Completely unrelated but that intro with Patient Zero being lined up with Hitler is batshit insane
Mobile :
Enemy running in place
Laggy as hell
Can’t even perform Gatling well
I had to use the iPhone 15 ( I used iPhone 13 and I crashed when I got too close to the boss ) in order not to get crashed out during the Hexscape night 3 and the boss just moans so much and so laggy too and for some reason u can’t rejoin the game if u disconnect , that’s so inconvenient bro and the dps bug nowadays too
Dayum i will hate TDS for doing these making me lag for 2 years, i quit 1 year.
They are completely wrong, because the lag is the reason why 2021 is 30k online player everyday and now is 10k everyday. Because the device limitations, me and my friend are struggles to play TDS too.
For example, why would a person play a game that lags and crash that making them rage (me too), they will just play other that fun and not lag because why not??? (Me too)
For someone thinking i dont play TDS and saying this comment, i already lvl280+ so yah. I really miss the days before thats is no lag and i can play happily with friends 😭
For more examples, when you are about to triumph in TDS but the lag make you cant use ability that easily and limited you original strength and skill, just because of lag and your teammate blame you because you have a weak control in lag and even just making player lose hope from this game !!!
Nowadays i still can see random people crash in game frequently include me in fallen mode, new event, hardcore, polluted watseland 2, badlands 2 and last of most, hidden wave.
For TDS i have to say, when i review back the screenshot that was years ago in my TDS history, i almost cry out cz that feeling missing so much.
un amigo literalmente no pudo pasarse la noche 3 porque siempre se le crasheaba el roblox en la ronda 30 (y solo le pasaba en la noche 3, en los demas modos nunca le paso algo parecido)
A mi igual me pasó eso, me quedé sin harvest :(
intro is, interesting to say the least
(its good)
my ipad makes the game run smoother at all times at the cost of the memory being higher than the price of gatling gun and golden crates
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omg, ITS GD COLONGE! 2:46
@@MatthewPeeters-p7z GD PLAYER SPOTTED
I LOVE GD COLONGE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@MazChillzI LOVE GD COLOGNE
@@romixtherealonei love gd cologne
Whats ur hardest
Short answer: 'graphic' content
BROO IN MOBILE PHONE ESPECIALLY FOR LOW DEVICE WE CANT EVEN REJOIN WHEN WE ARE DISCONECT BRUHH...... I REALLY HATE IT🔥☠️
Noone can its bugged rn
I think to fix every single current issues in tds devs need to recreate entire tds from 0 to fix everything
note: that's not only lag but also including, optimization, balance, outdated code (Im not sure if some code is still outdated), bugs that coming out of nowhere and etc.
Note:my phone runs tds BETTER than my iPad
The lag is so bad to the point I never really bother playing PW II or the Badlands anymore
Lag really does kill it for a lot of people, my mom literally goes at 0.5 frames per second whenever it's wave 40 on polluted
Badlands isn't too laggy i literally played it with mobile data
@@romixtherealone you're moms laggy? 😍
Yeah tds rn has alot of stuff going on rn then before. There’s more coloring,lighting,graphics and animations while old tds was simple. And we’ll mobile friendly and I try to play tds yet to this day but it lags and it won’t last long.
me when tower makes a damage and range calculation 50 times a second, enemies are making calculations of their new positions, and its combined with ultra high quality (for roblox) assets like particles, models, animations combined with wacky optimization and roblox servers. Then people wonder why is game laggy, yeah I wonder 🤔
for some reason the devs optimize the lobby a lot more than the actual game
The lobby can take several MINUTES to load. That is NOT optimized.
They still add to many details, like the blender models are super super detailed when you look up close when 99% of people don't even see. It's good they try hard and make things high quality but some are uncessary lobbies are supposed to be simple. And it takes 30 seconds to load in sometimes. I ain't complaining I can wait, but this compared to other roblox games is kinda bad.
@@Marciunus16 TDS is super high quality and that just causes natural lag, so I don’t blame them that much at all
@@romixtherealone Yeah true
1:24 WEIRD AL YANKOVIC MENTIONED
I don’t understand why people even play on mobile, it has less space to see, yes it May be small so it Can be transported, but that means less storage due to size
Tds is laggy*
I have no lag 🤠
@@Davie03q depends on the device
(But nice personally me neither)
I mean its good to see a high quality game but this prevents me from spamming dps which is crucial for hard modes,however,id rather play tds with ttd graphics than lagging and crashing constantly lol
Wait I just realized that’s a parody of my shirt how did I forget about my own merch 😭
I can't even enter in tds because the lag literally kicks me out of the server (seriously speaking)
They need a Performance mode where effects are scaled down a lot
I have a iPhone 9 and you know it’s supposed to be lagging when it’s an iPhone, specially if it’s so old and when I play tds it goes smooth as butter the night 3 did not have any lag in it in my experience
@@I-love-food7777 Oh wow, lag is totally a situational thing. Some people lag on even newer phones and some don’t lag even on older phones like yours. I think it depends on the OS and all that stuff, not sure but glad you don’t suffer from any lag issues
@ fr and i im on ios 13
The low FPS isn't really that much annoying but what's annoying is the upgrade UI takes a long time to load when you click a tower. Back in the days, even when you're lagging, the upgrade ui would instantly pop up when u click a tower but today that's not the case...
Also the delay when you upgrade a tower is crazy
0:25 yoo bro thats lit💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
now that is an underrated one u earned a new sub keep the hard work on this vid was amazing
Thanks! Eh 2000 people isn’t all that underrated but thanjs
i am legit getting 20 fps in nuclear monster boss fight with rtx4060
Its mainly the parts/models that load in the game itself, models use polygons which are performance-heavy. Public servers in tds have a lot of players and alot can cause lag, the amount of polygons and animations can hinder performance. Particle emitters or just particles itself are also kind of performance-heavy too.
To just prevent this issue, I honestly suggest to the tds developers is to add entity/model culling which makes it where what you see, is the what the game renders which can help. I dont know if tds uses pbr textures but they should add an option to use smooth plastic material to everything. Particles should have a None- Low-Medium-High emitting option, its already implemented in the graphics quality settings in roblox.
Automatic animation reducer which makes animations run slower just snapping inbetween frames/keyframes like its stop motion. If those do get added and it still lags, at that point, just get a new device.
its very unlikely that polygons are the cause of lag. I'd bet the lag is mainly caused by the old, unoptimized codebase for client rendering.
TDS is most likely not using a script for each little thing and uses modules network which is controlled by a few number of scripts.
When looking at performance we need to look at CPU, GPU, Network, RAM, etc to try and see where the lag is coming from and then consider what changes can be made to use less resources on a certain aspect. From what I've seen, most of tds's lag comes from RAM or CPU.
Here are some bonus areas of lag or elaboration on some things.
Potential GPU lag:
I have a laptop and tds performs the same on all graphics levels for me so its probably not a graphics problem. Animations run like garbage in viewport frames though, so any 3d models part of gui are sort of laggy.
Potential RAM problems:
TDS has a lot of unique 3d models and textures which use a lot of ram (ESPECIALLY TEXTURES). Also with more audios (like with voice acting), there's more lag.
Potential Network problems:
TDS processes everything on the server, and then fires a remote event constantly to players so that the client can do the visuals like shoot the gun, play enemy death anims, make the numbers of enemy health bars appear to go down and much more. These updates can come 40 times a second since the server runs at around 40fps. If theres a lot of fast-fire rate towers and lot of enemies to update, it can be a lot of data at once and cause network lag. However since the server updates so slow a lot of guesswork is done so things end up mostly correct and this optimizes the game somewhat limiting the server-client updates to 40 times a second. This comes at the cost of the fire rate bug though.
Potential CPU problems:
Too many calculations with enemies and towers, especially when finding targeting, explosions, and chaining. Although most of these would be happening on the server and causing that lag instead. The client CPU lag could possibly be from too much going on at the same time. Roblox itself is sort of poor at handling things between the CPU and GPU so the CPU can be doing more work it needs in the wrong places which is bad for a complicated game like TDS.
I didn't go over that many things in the video now that I think about it thanks to this comment, those are extremely good points that I never thought about
I hear game theory music
I just remember when bug Make enemy not dissapear after died thats making me so laggy even crash to the game
Funny that one of the first names for TDS was "tb but no lag" or something like that
Wait actually?? Wow
tb but available on mobiles, tb didnt had mobile support back in the days
It was also tb but no lag or something like that
Bro beating night 3 on mobile was hell I was so desperate to beat it I was trying to beat it while I looked or go away most of the time from the lag
You have to play night 3 in a freezer to keep your phone from burning your hands upon contact
@romixtherealone yea that didn't happen but atleast I beaten it
The biggest problem with me is memory, I will crash in night 3
Occlusion culling and optional graphics, animations, and a lot of other features.
2:43 nice bomber crew music
Maybe wrong timestamp but that’s Deltarune
2:46 I love gd cologne
keep grinding
I had to BUY harvester since i kept disconnected on night III hard.
RIP, it was really expensive to buy too
Idea: make Extra low Quality mode
All towers and enemies are just PNGs of them
add 2 settings that removes the animations for enemies and towers and make they t pose and oddly turn around
Funni meme
The lag made me rage quit tds because the mecha Santa boss lunar overture and night 3 I lag out of the game on mobile when I would have beaten it and it has made me really hate doing tds events. My mobile device can handle the main game just not the events
I have both an iPhone 13 and 11 and the only issue I have is loading the DAMN EXPERIENCES BECAUSE I HAVE TO RELOAD ROBLOX 50 TRILLION TIMES FOR THE SERVER BUTTONS TO WORK
OMG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT ISSUE YOURE SO RIGHT
whats the song at 0:10?
old final wave
lots of meshes, models, and unions are super laggy, add more and it will cause bugs, in studio, you dont face that much bugs until you publish the game you are working on, since its in the roblox platform, these meshes, models, and unions can break the game. This is what I think since I have been scripting and building in roblox studio, TDS has a lot of meshes, (and all of that stuff) that we can see, this is one of their problems (I think...)
The models are crazy but so is the lag caused by them
the lobby cooks my pc and we dont talk sbout poluted wasteland
I have an 800 dollar pc and I still lag when I play, great optimization tds
Yes if they fix lag it will benefit them because it will allow more player to play the game
I quit tds just of the lag like I can't even get any event towers bruh
been playing tds for 5 years never lagged once :)
you must have a god device then
3:01 man used the game theory intro
I actually never had any audio in that part, it was edited in with denoise + hum removal to make it sound like it was coming from my phone. Then obviously my voice was added on top of it. I had the GT theme just sitting around on my PC so I decided to use it
TDS can never live up to tdx’s level of not being laggy
And TDX looks wayyy higher res, TDS needs to take notes
Fr, my pc can run tdx endless wave 170+ on like 20-30 fps but on tds pw2, my pc gets like 10 fps or less
0:10 Macho legs cat
i used to play on a ipod 5th generation but now it wont able to run roblox
Wait u british or american?
@@Bot66689 American
@ k
joyous day! a romix video? unexpectedly so!
@@Cut3yKat British ahh comment
0:11 we need more jevil
@@Wood-ue3pn Jevil > Fallen Jester
fax
jerry's bait shop, you know the place
1.get a better pc /phone
2. Get a better pc/phone
3.get money
Am I rich enough to get a very powerful cell phone?
@@cristianalessioortunoorrel1460Cry about it,stop playing tds then
@@FakeSyber 😐
@@FakeSyberyou are helpful during my time of need bro. You solved all my problems and cared about my financial situation. Thank you :)
Bee swarm has the same problem if your in a server with 5 other players all with 50 bees
@@KaylieSublett Disable bees exists for this reason
Tds needs fast mode for low devices....
Like i have both a phone and a pc.
İ can beat molten in 11:40 on my pc
But it takes at least 14 mins on mobile because of lag
As I said in the video, yeah fast mode would be great
You included my avatar for 0.5 seconds in the intro I'm copy striking your ENTIRE CHANNEL!! ALL YOUR REVENUE IS MINE!
@@ToxicInjectionTDS alright let’s settle this in the boxing ring toxic fart
That’s why they added a hide bees option
@@KaylieSublett yeah it’s so much better, but TDS can’t really do that without making the game impossible in multiplayer lol
gd colon, my beloved
Wait till we get to 2026. It might just be unplayable!
Tower slideshow simulator
My console can handle rdr2 without lagging but it still lag in THE LOBBY OF TDS! Also it lags more than my phone who can't even handle a polluted wastelands match at more than 10 fps
It's not laggy, for the one and only, Ai Commander!!!!!!!!!1
I crashed 7 times on the event night 3. Good job paradoxum #belowfixurgame
Also i coulndt get harvester which is sad
They should add a low graphics setting, poor mobile players.
More like Yandere simulator. Because it has loads of script overload, cpu usage causing all particles to render, and animated HuD
In tdx, you literally have to have a decent computer to play endless if your teammates bring warship, as there is no way to disable the warship explosion effect
I don't think so, the TDX works much better for me than the TDS and my cell phone doesn't overheat. My cell phone is a Motorola with 4 RAM and a processor that even the brand doesn't know.
@@chanchilafachaviviente Hmmm, for me, whenever i play endless in tdx with teamates with warship, during wave 100+, my fps is a constant below 15
You want less spamy wave design because it’ll improve l performance on low end devices. I want less spamy wave design because it’s boring as shit
the tower upgrade menu takes 2 seconds to load for me 😭
No way on a scale of cooked level your phone is well done 💀
@@romixtherealone its actually my computer, its like over 5 years old 😭
and my 2 year old phone runs at like 50 - 70 fps while that computer runs at like 1 - 25 fps
now that I think of it patient zero is kinda like the angry German man
Both attempted to wipe out a race, both are from the same general area, both found that their targets were plaguing the earth. It’s just him there’s no catch
@ TDS is merely a recreation of world history
the lobby is laggy asf
I think tower heroes does it well. It doesn't spammed way too many enemies, and somewhat low quality but charming and simple style in it.
TOWER HEROES MENTION!!!! Yeah tower heroes has a low resource but nice looking style that allows it to be played at better frames
GD COLOGNE MY BELOVED ❤