As someone who has been really invested in the TDS community for almost 3 years now, I'm really glad that someone with a big influence actually talked about this. It's so painful to see the high quality game that I've poured hundreds of hours into be overshadowed by a virtual slot machine. TYSM! 5:55 also just wanted to put this out here, but all songs in the game are composed exclusively by the in-house music developer, phoqus.
Tower Defense is like a cheap bowl, it has a common base but with polishing and effort into researching what pairs with your version of this bowl, it can truly become a superb bowl.
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Because it wasn't made for the casual player, literally the mode where you can get gems is "Hardcore", i don't think the hardest mode on the entire game and calling it hardcore is not a very casual player thing, besides, that is literally THE most expensive tower, everything before that is either more cheap or easier to get, you don't even need it because in the point that you can get the tower you are probably beated the entire game inclouding the special gamemodes
As a 2019 veteran of tds and a lvl 326 I would like to thank you for making my day. Seeing you find this amazing game and give such a good word is so special to me!
Nice to see a positive review of TDS for once, as a player who’s been playing since 2020 the most baffling thing to me is that the most hate from the game comes from its own community, and it’s not even well founded. Idk if it’s just me but I’d take weekly updates with some paid aspects over a single event update every 5 months.
Eclipse, in my opinion this is a golden era of TDS. We used to get content droughts for years similar to yba. Right now tds is on a roll and have been coming out with content pretty much each update. The game is better than it has ever been (not in players playing but maybe idrk) I hope you continue to enjoy the game.
i've been playing this game for pretty much 5 years now, and soon will be hitting level 300(i know i know, super low level for someone who's been there since the start) and i gotta say, i was NOT expecting you of all people to talk positively about tds, specially considering how much the community likes to shit on it, but im extremely happy to see that you liked it. also unlike those anime tower defense, tds is actually quite hard, i can barely beat fallen mode(the fourth difficulty) by myself, which is kinda crazy considering i have the best towers in the game, and the special modes sometimes give me headaches with how much preparation you need. but on a mostly unrelated note, all the soundtracks for tds are made by phoqus, and i don't think any of the ones used in game are from somewhere else aside from maybe molten doom(the theme of the big lava guy you killed). i really recommend you check some of them out on your free time because they are absolute bangers. i am back from the future to say, do not listen to those guys saying the grind is bad, and that the game used to be better before, because the grind is only there for the golden and hardcore towers, and the game used to be extremely bare bones before. people are just angry the game with a dev team of nearly 30 people needs a lot of money.
@jamesamongus3338 it is quite a lot, but the sheer amount of xp fallen and night 3 of the event gives has made it quite a easy task to level up. I'm pretty sure just In the last week or so I went up 40 levels
I think people who shit on the game are stuck in the past, but ironically enough it's the past of the game they hate most there most certainly used to be a time where without accelerators and/or golden towers you couldn't get anywhere (that's the one reason I didn't get executioner), but I'd say that time is long past there are viable alternatives to all the grind-intensive towers now out of SEVEN viable end game DPS towers, two of them don't require an excessive amount of grinding (turret & ranger), while pursuit is still less grindy than golden towers or hardcore stuff imo
I do agree for the most part, but there is a gambling aspect. You can get golden towers, which are usually complete upgrades to their normal variants, through super expensive crate that gives one of these variants at random. Its not the end of the world, but I just wanted to point out that it does have some gambling shenanigans since some golden towers are more useful than others.
@@Extr1um483not really if you play some games you can get some spin tickets which you use for those you can buy the tickets straight up if you’d like but it’s a drop rate at the end of a marxh
I mean I love tds. But a tower defense game I really like is tower heroes. Btw this is coming from somebody who’s been in the roblox tower defense community ever since 2019 thank you for acknowledging that not all tower defense games are bad this is why you’re my goat eclipse.
Agreed, Tower Heroes is the only game that made me feel like griding for discover the game more, plus I personally like the graphics more, and it's arguably harder than TDS, making it a better game for strategies. And also Niko Oneshot my beloved
I used the play the game. While it can be fun at times. It has very bland mechanics compared to other TD games on the platform, also it having a rather slow update schedule with most of the content being limited time events doesn’t help its case.
@@fili2871 ehhh, I don't think so, they are making the newest bosses have less hp than before, and old strong towers even stronger than before, with few exceptions, such as the ranger. Meanwhile Tower heroes has a consistent Hp for bosses, and has no characters that guarantee wins, obviously there's meta units, but they still don't have something "demoman" like in the unit shop, even the wizard can be powerful
@@KindaCrazyAndInsaneI played some anime td's But Thats Because Geometry TD: I beated it (not now Because of the só MUCH more updates) Tds: I Got bored 🤠👍 And much others td's, now im in Ball TD, Its really good
A few things, I’ve been playing tds since release and am over level 500 at this point, I can honestly say that tds is probably THE best tower defence game on Roblox, from the AMAZING orginal ost has been great from the first soundtrack, (I still listen to the old event songs), to the voice acting in the events, to everything. I would love to see you make a follow up video on tds where you get more into the game, but I understand you don’t like the genre as a whole. Also to answer your question about the music not being from tds, there was a point in time back in 2019 where the final boss music wasn’t original, but for the past 3-4 years, all soundtracks in the game have been made by phoques, a extremely talented music artist.
2:47 Speaking of Portal, have you tried TUNNELER on Roblox? It's in the category of "telling you it's a Roblox game but you wouldn't believe me" kind of thing. I'd say the same for another game called Hellreaver Arena, I don't know if you can unpack a lot about Hellreaver Arena but go for it too if you feel up to it. Lastly I'm putting one more game here as another reccomendation, It's called Nexus. I was going to stop at Portal but I just suddenly remembered a few more games, I know I'm missing a few more in mind too. I don't know if I commented multiple times UA-cam kept returning me errors.
Fun fact: the developers for Hellreaver (PoptartNoahh and CanyonJack) are currently working on a military VR roblox game. Check out their channel, it’s some amazing stuff
(he won't like it) Main things he would rant on about: Unforgiving for little reason other than roguelite Doesn't tell you anything No progression other than cosmetics and very easily fillable achievements/perks Solo play is not recommended for new players, which he would inevitably do High bar of entry and very "wiki this" game knowledge "Unbalanced game with no updates" (soon to be updated regularly)
Hell yeah, Eclipse played a TD game that had actual effort put into it!! Yippie! Also, correction on 5:55, that is incorrect, all tracks are composed by Phoqus and Enthrallist, so maybe you mistook one of the tracks for something from another piece of media
as someone who has been playing tds since 2019 and won every single event, I feel like the new player experience of 2019 was magical and is something that I can never get back again
Try TDX, it’s essentially TDS but with more heavy emphasis on realism, in its textures and military themed Very unique, and bosses also kill your towers Also made by someone who supported TDS
Let's go, he finally plays it. And as a veteran TDS player, I am well aware that it has a fuck ton of issues. It's highly tower and stat based, the grind is insufferable, and the devs seem to be slowly loosing themselves. But it isn't the worst thing out there, but its important to know that this is just a worse Bloons TD6, but could still be worth your time, when it doesn't suck.
As a long player that's quit a long time ago, it's so saddening to see majority of "content" updates turn into just skins and or tower reworks that aren't even worth using
@@Fluffernater It's hilarious that when they run out of towers to copy from Tower Battles, they just throw together some word vomit and call it a tower, or just make a SLIGHTLY different version of an existing tower.
For other tower defense games to look at, see: Tower Defense X: Probably one of the best on the platform despite all the hate it seems to get for very little reason. They, to my knowledge, are currently working on some big QoL updates, so you might want to wait a bit. Tower Galactica: Discontinued game with heavy emphasis on its story with gameplay to match. Quality >>> Quantity here. also on the topic of RNG and TDS, I hate to tell you that you're wrong here, but unfortunately golden crates exist. Golden crates give one of a small selection of random towers a "golden" variant that is different (and usually substantially better) than its base counterpart. They cost 50k gold a piece and cannot give dupes luckily. also stop torturing yourself and use upgrade keybinds. what are you doing, the E key is right there, why are you moving your mouse across the entire screen, you're hurting my soul.
about golden crates specifically, keep in mind you're still guaranteed A golden tower when buying the golden crate (and they can't give dupes as you said) some are more useful than others yes (golden crook boss), but you cannot compare this kind of rng to the slot machines of many popular "tower defense" games on roblox
The golden crate rng shenanigans ended a long time ago as you can just buy them straight from the shop now, granted you have to wait but its a way better option and im glad they added it.
as a player of tds that started playing it back in 2021, that hit lvl 475, that owns almost every tower in game excluding couple of exclusive ones, that potentially wasted over 2k hours on this game and grinded over 500k coins and 35k gems overall i could say yes the game is fun for td genre fans im just getting my dose of dopamine when im placing some towers and theyre just shredding everything on the path, using unique combination of the loadout, knowing that it HAD some logic in there like for example you couldnt mixup pyromancer tower and freezer tower cause fire just melts ice, for a context: freezer tower freezing enemies, right? wrong cause if u have pyromancer in loadout then u couldnt freeze up enemies cause of pyromancers fire. well, that was until the update that was couple weeks ago, now u can just mixup freezing and fire towers
Actually the feature of freeze cancelling fire effects got deleted so you can use both again (i just realized you know they can mix again lol sorry my bad)
the thing i like most about TDS is that a more pricey tower doesnt mean its better. Every tower has its cons and pros and while some towers are definitely worse than others, most towers have their own mechanics that make them better in one situation and worse in another
11:54 also TDX is a good tower defense alternative, the bosses are pretty epic and it has a realistic style, cus I’ve heard some people say they don’t like tds cus it feels like a “kids game”.
I just cant get into tdx because of the grind :/ also not sure how tds would be a kids game but alr i guess let people think what they wanna think lol.
@@doomsdaymufffin Ehh cartoony doesnt always mean childish though, the conserver and drakobloxxer are examples of that, they dont look that childish for being cartoony
I used to love TDS before the rework, where it felt like there was actual strategy involved between modes. Now it just feels like “who has the bigger stat stick” and the grind is horrendous.
i grinded TDS so much, i had commando and wish i had gladiator it was my favorite unit and played till the lobby rework and hardcore because the game fell off
They’ve reworked a lot of stuff lately. So just pure damage doesn’t work anymore. The grind still kinda sucks but they’ve made a lot of starter towers better.
I'm so glad you could appreciate TDS despite not being a tower defense guy! TDS does have a lot of gamepasses, however they aren't shoved in your face and they just need them because of the massive development team constantly pushing out weekly content updates. Hopefully one day TDS won't be overshadowed by those garbage anime TD games. Also, I know Toxic Injection already said this in the comments but all the songs are in fact composed by Phoqus and Enthrallist since you were wondering about that at 5:55. The entire OST is insane
Idk if Eclipse would like TDX tbh, but I think he’d appreciate the mechanics at least (TDX is literally just TDS but with more mechanics and being more difficult and more trial and error / strategy based)
TDS is more casual, TDX is for more veteran players of the TD genre. Still, hope he *actually* plays TDX, since it's a pretty damn good game. Also, just imagine him realizing that bosses above easy mode can kill your towers
Expert is easy ngl, you just gotta enough towers when the knight on wave 10 or whatever wave it was, comes in, you either have multiple towers to deal with it, or you have one powerful tower to deal with it. Early game is the hardest part of Expert, after you get past early game it should be easy.
Ty for talking about what was my first Roblox game that I actually enjoyed playing this game was my entire childhood this game has a special place in my heart that it will never loose but I quit because I fell behind so much it was almost impossible to bring myself back to the meta and then when I try to come back I realize I forgot all the strategies what is in the waves and I forgot how to effectively and efficiently use money and gain money also anime vanguards is like anime last stand but with actually good graphics and it gives a Sh.t ton of codes
a thing i love about tds is that you need to get flying detection, lead detection and hidden detection this is great because you need to use different towers to detect these and u need to use 10% of ur brain instead of anime last stands that u place a meta dps a unit to hold and a meta farm (that wins you a match)
I love this game, it’s really fun but other td games i would recommend is tdx (though it’s difficult so it may not be enjoyable) and (while I haven’t played it much myself) tower heroes The grinding for the golden crates once you get all the towers is probably the worst the grinding will get taking about 15 hours for one while you need 6 for all of the skins (which give perks that make towers better). Although I feel it’s less supposed to be a grind and more of an overtime goal which makes it bearable.
TDS grind is horrible, but the game is still really fun and worth it. Another td game is Doomspire Defence, it’s a bit difficult starting off but can be incredibly fun. Also, play Rougeblade, it’s sorta like RGD and actually does a few things better than it - mainly the shop.
"its almost as if the people who made this care and not just making it a shitty cash grab gambling simulator" as a level 175, i will tell you that is a wild statement
@@penguinspenguinspenguins i don't believe golden skins need to be super important to strategy, i see strategies can include without golden towers. All i see is that golden tower give a much efficient method on doing the any strategy.
That roulette is an insult to everyone playing this game, it was added like a couple of months ago and it makes the game look a skibidi toilet type shit game. They just have to make the roulette look like the one from cs
5:58 not hate, but fyi, there are no osts from other games in TDS. All of the songs even from the beginning were made from Phoqus. The songs are fire tho, i think you can also agree to it.
@@jadennguyen2852 Actually Raze The Void was first, then the devs replaced it with after hardcore testing, but then there were some issuesand then they replaced it back Raze The Void also yes, it was taken from terarria HOMEVER it was remixed
@@Alguien_random_aqui people act like prehardcore was the peak of tds completely ignoring the update times Two years for toxic gunner just for it to become mid
hey its me the guy who reccomended you find everything you want a GOOD tower defense game? play tower galactica. the enemies GET OUT OF THE PATH AND COME BEAT YOU UP YOURSELF. theres LIVES. its UNIQUE, you ACTUALLY NEED SKILL AND A STRATEGY!!
The enemies killing you are only a part of the third galaxy (apart from one revamped stage) But regardless it still is a pretty good (but unfinished and discontinued) game
unfortunately it doesn't seem like eclipse noticed somehow, although he does call these "1st impressions" and not full-on reviews so, and yes there's that daily store you may still have to wait for the golden perk you want to appear
I have played TDS since 2019 and still love it. It’s sad how these trash games are getting bigger. I feel like the reputation of TDS is getting better and that it will reclaim the throne.
11:12 You are SO RIGHT, I heard that the TDS devs actually care about balancing their games while also having to monetise some items since they're such a big company.
Also Eclipse, TDS isn't the only game who have devs that actually care for it, there are games like TDX and Doomspire Defense. There are probably more TD games with good devs, but those are the most known.
The issue with tdx is that it has balancing issues (At least when i played it and some people that are still playing told me that it still had them) Tower heroes is another good tower defense game Tower Blitz is also high quality but the creators abandoned it in favor of evade (Still gets some maintenance updates and some devs are making a sequel)
@@Erased_UnityXDXI think people are honestly overreacting when it comes to tdx balancing. I really I don’t find balancing issues all too present in tdx, I honestly think it’s better than the tds balancing. Other than ranger, I haven’t really found any tower useless. Beginner towers like operator or John have been useful in the last two events and towers like shotgunner or mine layer can still see play from more advanced players due to mine layer excelling in endless and shotgunner unstunning towers and healing towers.
@@Erased_UnityXDX TDX is fucking glazed so much. Like the grind in that is as bad if not worse and I'm pretty sure the dev made changes to make sure grinding strategies didn't work. Buddy, if people need grinding strategies I'm pretty sure it's your fault for how you made the game. Same goes for Hardcore mode in TDS. That shit was horrendous and still is.
its not a particulary interesting thing, and it's not going to be something you do often in the best td game. Of course selling is sometimes better but not because you need to move your entire dps to the end of the track.
Im playing TDS for 5 years already, and still enjoy it. And the best thing in this game is that you need create a strategies, and a good teamwork, not just roll SUPERB SSS MYTHIC TOWER. Its really cool to see someone finally saying good stuff about this game! (And i would like to see more videos from TDS! if you would need any help tho, im here)
Day 1 of asking you to play defend the statue: NP edition, its a super fun fps defend the tower game with epic bossfights, progression, and mechanics. The worst part is how its pretty beginner unfriendly and the badge grinds (they are optional)
Give tdx a try, its more impactful with its music, gameplay, and even animations. Not to mention the boss designs and their behaviour. As every boss there is very unique as they all do different things (like plague doctor dishes out debuffs to your towers, and eradicator kills your towers and mapwide stuns all towers if at 20-40% hp (this is to let any weaker enemies get past him as he also is stunned until the towers are back up)) in my opinion tdx is a better executed version of tds as the grind is still horrid, however they did improve upon it by introducing achievements and first time map difficulty beaten. It also has endless where it introduces new bosses exclusive towards endless. If you join now you might get disappointed about it having a battlepass system but thats only for the current event its going for where it gives you 3 free robux units (which are perm when you get them) skins power ups etc. Just a heads up.
@@crizblu6615 Just because they share a name and general design? The only 2 bosses that come to mind are Eradicator MK 1 C and Revived plague doctor being upgraded versions of Plague doctor and Eradicator. All other bosses are pretty different other than the names
@ I love Eradicator, Eradicator MK II, Eradicator MK IV, Eradicator MK IC, Golden Eradicator MK IV, Golden Eradicator MK IC, Corrupted Eradicator MK II, and Eradicator MK II+! So original!
He says he doesn't like the tds genre. How is he supposed to know it if he doesnt give a shit about the genre he's just saying his experience with tds and comparing it to the anime one
Thank you for bringing more attention to tds, as someone that has played since 2020 im glad you played this. Pretty sad how the dev team works hard but the updates get overshadowed by gambling slots
You should try playing TDS's event! the easy mode of all three nights actually give you pre made loadouts, so you can just choose one and hop in without worrying about grinding, + you still get a pretty good early game tower for beating all three on easy mode! They're also really high quality, with voice acting and surprisingly solid animations. Give it a go! i promise you that it won't disappoint
Unfortunately the event is over, so it can’t be played anymore, which honestly sucks because it was probably the most high quality event we’ve had so far.
I've been playing TDS and TDX since release, same with TBZ, Tower Defenders, and others. I'm glad you noticed one of my favourites, and one of the most dedication i put into the game.
Another interesting quality that TDS has is that for limited time events, they have an "easy" or "hard" mode. The easy mode gives you a selection of loadouts to use in order to beat the event, even if you don't have said towers, so you get a chance to use the tower before actually deciding to grind for it.
What is interesting, you wrote about how much you adored, "Find Everything" and now "Tower Defense Simulator" and both have the same Developer, Nomer who does both games. So it's not surprising! Thanks again for telling everyone how much you loved both of the games!
For clarification there are 19 Developers on the "Tower Defense Simulator" which nomer is one and works on both games. I hope this clears this up a bit!
If you want more TD games on roblox, I would recommend "Critical Tower Defense", "World Tower Defense", "Tower Heroes" and "Tower blitz"(this is the former game of the creators of evade).
He would hate wtd since it's solo and early game experience is hell.he would also call ctd mid since a lot the games cool things like toll and order are locked behind hours of grind.but I do think he would like th and tbz
@@alimehrabi519r2 yeah ngl ctd isnt very new player friendly because all the late game stuff is way more fun to use. If he does try it he needs to really play it.
Hey, 2019 TDS player (with more hours than I'd like to admit) over here who has played several other TD games such as Roblox Tower Heroes, Tower battles, Tower blitz, and TD games outside of roblox such as Bloons TD6 and more. However I still stand that TDS is my favourite game I constantly revisit the game because of their events and amazing soundtracks. I agree with most of your points with modern Roblox TD games being gambling simulators however the reason I believe that TDS isn't as appealing as something like anime TDs is because of the difficulty and the original characters. TDS has tried to address this issue with a simplified tutorial and easy mode, removing confusing gamemodes (golden). They tried reducing tower levels (most from 5 to 4) to make them easier to understand to the average 9 year old. However what I fear is that they're slowly marketing TDS too similar to other tower defense games on Roblox with their new click-baity thumbnails and rainbow gambling wheels at spawn. I hope this video shows as a wake-up call for the TDS devs to understand that this game's beginning level and skill should be lowered but maintain the high skill cap at the lower progressions of the game. I see people complaining about progressions, however the late game towers that requires hundreds of hours of grind aren't something that should be rushed into. Obviously these are kids who want their big dopamine kicks with the crazy tower stats. I enjoy how they break-up events with different stages to provide to different people at different skill stages of the game. The latest event's final part of the stage however, was way too simplistic and easy.
Sometimes I forget that 3-5 years ago TDS carried the entire platform on its back along with the other greats of the time (excluding the simulators that oversaturated the platform and brought Roblox into the dark ages) and for that it kinda does earn some respect from me. As an experience, I could reccomend anyone play it for a couple of hours, unlock a few basic towers, beat a few hard tracks, and conquer all the difficulties... and then quit immediately because the grind becomes awful.
Not sure if you covered this topic but you can literally win any mode, specifically the harder ones by using a document with a strategy, so long you have the towers to use for the strategy, you'll be fine
TDS is a pretty good game and despite its problems, I still stuck to it for 4 years reaching level 655 It would be interesting to see what you think of TDX though
Probably wouldn't like it as much due to it being not beginner friendly. Plus, the game is pretty hard which would make someone like eclipse not like the game
@@leonardotrujillo8661 its beginner friendly if you have picked easy modes, i quit tdx due to its grindy aspects but i dont think its that bad, it has effort put in too.
I reccoment Critical Tower Defense, TDX (its in beta and really grindy though) and Tower Galactica if you wanna see what a TD game on roblox can be. CTD likes to experiment with the genra by introducing map mechanics and other neat stuff. TDX main selling point is the visuals and the hp mechanic. TG at the halfway point (Duhovnic) becomes a survival game combined with a TD game, you have to dodge or take damage (you have 5 lives per match so don't waste em), too bad it got discontinued while the devs were reworking the second solar system.
Tdx is really only in beta because he hasn't released like 4 towers that would absolutely break the metaand powercreep the whole game(its not like thats already a thing)
@@leonardotrujillo8661powercreep? The hell is powercreep in TDX? The only exactly case of powercreep in TDX is golden minelayer and minelayer, other than else is fine
Really amazing video. If you make another one you should play TDX, it's a extreamealy well made and fun (the sound track itself is one of the best in roblox)
Thing is, most TD games in Roblox aren't actual Tower Defense games as much as they're just idle games with SOME TD aspects. You literally just place the guy with the most stats a bunch of times, wait half an hour, come back and repeat, no strategy involved
isn't that all tower defense games? besides you can't just place the guy with most stats a bunch of times unless you are already at the end of the game, where you will already have spent time playing it.
@@MatterOrNot no? most TD games actually require you to PLAY the game, not just place a single tower and deal enough damage to every single type of enemy(lol, as if bad Roblox TD games have something other than "fast" and maybe "regen" enemies) to steamroll through them no matter their positioning, synergies, passives or whatever other ability they have in their game. Even at the end of most good TD games you can't just spam the same stat-stick tower without at least adding in some buff or support towers
I think the problem with tower defense games is that its usually repetitive grinding and usually one mode. But at least tds is getting pvp mode soon...
if it takes them like 6 years to add that thats crazy. I wonder if they'll innovate from being just regular pvp. i think it'll probably be the exact same as tb pvp, or i guess bloons td battles
@@aperson626 They already did few testings for pvp this year, its much more fun than tower battles, having similiar eco to Bloons TD. Also the PVP is coming soon (either before or after the winter event), so it won't take 6 years
You can't really talk about "the roblox tower defence genre" without talking about tower battles (abbreviated to TB rather than TDS), since it's kinda the first ever tower defence game on roblox. I'm not saying it's better than tower defence simulator (even if tds did effectively start out as a tb knock-off) but it's a good game to take reference from when rating these tower defence games. I do warn, it's a bit more "retro" with it's graphics and it doesn't have a lot of its own sounds nor music since it's so old. But it has even less rng than Tds! Not even the cosmetic skins are randomly selected! There is one clear downside; it has caught a serious case of beeswarm-itis, its dev "Planet3arth" hasn't updated it since.. last, last, halloween. He's busy with irl stuff and doesn't update the game a whole lot anymore.
@@serily4524 what do you mean cope more? No one cares that TDS took everything from a mid ass game and made it better. It's not even close at all. Copying should be okay if you did it better and this is an instance.
@@zennon_youtube How do people manage to enjoy outdated garbage? The only thing Tower Battles has going is the PVP which is cancer because of balancing.
6:03 Some of the TDS's soundtracks are remixes of soundtracks from other games (for example Grabuster (Grave digger's theme) is a remix of Monastery in Disguise) also reason why the music didn't start was most likely because you played on molten mode, the Gamemode doesn't have soundtracks, it will change soon when the whole mode is reworked I am happy that you enjoyed the game, the game is grindy, but its still better than gambling simulator. (also main reason why its grindy is because of outdated hardcore mode that is going to be reworked in the future and also the golden skins)
@@leonardotrujillo8661 It only bugs out due to lag homever as Eclipsed mentioned in the video, he did play on molten mode, so that was definitly the moment were music didn't start playing
As someone who is level 300 in tds its quite good. I do enjoy the grind but i understand why some people wont. Theres a ton of content and modes/events. Its really unique while i enjoy ALS i always come back to tds as it very certain to getting towers besides gambling. People say its p2w though i think they are just coping with the fact they dont have specific towers.
is it not p2w though? it has MANY gamepasses for towers that take tons of grinding to get or is unobtainable. The vip pass and subscription increase exp gain to make getting level towers easier
@@LiamArmstrong2 I see where your coming from and i agree there is alot of p2w features in tds. Though i think compared to others games its not too p2w. Plus the towers dont boost your skill even if you get accelerator/engineer at lvl 2 you still wont be a top player.
@@LiamArmstrong2 and it's also the devs jobs, they were struggling before even upping the quality with money issues. Which is why they have tons of plushy merchandise. Since the massive quality crank they introduce things to offset the amount of money it took to make these genuinely super enjoyable updates
@@LiamArmstrong2depends on your defitinition. does it make the game easier? in a way yeah. do you need to buy it? not nessesarily since you can get most things via playing and the event towers arent the best. ive had fun just never buying anything and just going with the regular progression especially now that a lot of the new player towers like hunter and crook boss have been buffed
@@LiamArmstrong2the VIP gives you 1.25x exp which is not even worth it to be called p2w and for the gamepass tower excuse, you should actually try, you know, playing the game?
Tower defence simulator... not a cashgrab, the devs care? Wow, hearing those words from Eclipse is insane, last time I played that game many years ago it was quite literally a p2w cashgrab that got an update every year at best.
When was tds p2w? The first 3 years of the game were barely using any gamepasses, and if so l, it was just to boost your progress. There was not a single robux thing that gave you unfair advantages.
You should try TDX. It has less content than TDS but I do prefer the gameplay from it, since the game as a pathing system for towers which makes it more interactive. Also no gambling for towers. I know you will probably get a lot of tower defense recommandation and I do understand you dont like these but just incase.
True, but idk about less content... john constantly hosts new events, there are 4 core (canon) gamemodes and endless, it doesnt have less content, or ATLEAST it has as much content as tds perhaps
Eclipse, your points about Anime Last stand are valid, and that's why you should review Anime Vanguards, as it's everything that Last Stand ISN'T. - Animations are top notch - The sound effects are beautiful and crisp - The Visuals are detailed and unique - The gems are actually obtainable without spending a penny of your real money - The trait rerolls are actually obtainable easily from "PARAGON" without spending a penny of your real money - "Gambling", there's very low pity in this game compared to other games, meaning it's LESS of a gambling simulator as you are guaranteed your units after only a little gems - The progression is actually very seamless as you have the option of story mode, legend stages, raids, boss raids, paragon, infinite, you never really feel like you're forced to do only one thing, you can do something else and still get stronger. 10:15 - This whole point about replacing the towers and having an intense last-minute boss fight, the same thing is present in Anime Vanguards' Current "SUKUNA BOSS" battle. It's by far the hardest thing in the game atm.
I recommend checking out Tower Defense X if you are interested in seeing what happens when the common tropes of TD games are pushed to greater extents. Sure, it still has the same problems most TD games have (namely Grinding and repetitiveness), but it compensates through how creative and fleshed out everything about the game feels.
Heres some "quick" history and facts about TDS: TDS started off as a small school project between Raz and Below Raz was one of the two lead devs until one day last year he just left (he left after The 3rd act of Lunar Overture released, which the community was very riled up over due to the hype in the events story being diminished) Its rumored Raz now works on TDX Speaking of TDX, not long after TDS was opened to the public John Roblox a big roblox youtuber made a video on it. Said video blew up giving TDS its playerbase. John is responsible for animating/creating TDS' early trailers. The most prominent being the Overhaul Trailer, which won a Bloxy for Best Trailer. TDS was the second Roblox Game that did a live event After Jailbreak. The Live Event was for Overhauls release however after the live event all of the games code basically unraveled so they had to do a quite literal last minute delay. The Overhaul update would of released Overhaul (basically a recode of the entire game) and Hardcore (new mode) These were released as two big updates with Hardcore Public testing being done right after the live event incident when the game finally opened. TDS at one point kept being Jokingly called Tower Delay Simulator during the 2020-2023 era due to how little amount of updates the game had. 2021 only having less than 5 updates. Both of these being events. 2022 is when the game started getting frequent updates again. Halfway around 2022 John left TDS dev team (he didn't leave the game entirely) to go make his own TD game known as Tower Defense X. It is assumed Raz went to work on TDX as well as recently he has been sighted alot in TDX. Nothing particularly major has happened between the time Raz left until the time TDX released. After TDX released, John and Below started communication up and they decided to plan Tag Team Updates. When TDX released Armored Factory for instance, TDS reworked Military Base. John also did damage control early one when people were going "OH *TD game here* COPIED *other TD game here"* by saying that they talked things through. After this John has been up for a TDSxTDX collab. Which is still on the table to this day. Oh right, when TDS did their duck hunt event, at this point all the towers used the default Roblox face. Due to a scare by Roblox about using Roblox Assets in games, TDS has ALL towers use custom faces now. Thats all.
To me the issue with most Anime TD games, at least newer ones, is that they try to be the next Anime Adventures, both figuratively and literally. After the game was taken down people raced to make a game to take the place of the top anime td game. Many of these games just flat out copy many features from AA, from things like traits, raids, how the gacha system works, to how many of the units work. Because of this none of them feel unique or new. Heck even ASTD, the game that arguably started the trend of anime td games, started copying stuff from AA. it creates this issue of not really having a reason to stick to one when another will pop up a few weeks later doing the exact same thing. oh and yeah a lot of them also copy AA's tedious grind.
Honestly ASTD at it's peak is what I consider the best anime TD game, it just kinda sucks how far downhill it went from Fruit (the head developer) horribly plan out the game's future, more so not planning it at all. Updates filled with half baked ideas, the game becoming cluttered, old mechanics clashing with new mechanics, horrible attempts at fixing the power creep (We went from the best units for infinite doing 1k damage at max upgrades to 100 million.). In the end ASTD became a shell of its former self.
are they? i don't know. but what i do know is that they SUCK compared to a hidden gem of a game called Blox Fruit - i'm sure you haven't heard of it, it's pretty underground, but it's sooo high quality, it gets updated ALL THE TIME! and you know what the best part is? it has the most amazing combat i've ever seen on roblox, genuinely epilsce, you NEED to play this game.
It's just that some td games that actually made with passion and require some braining to beat are buried under the piles of garbage td games that are made only for money. My favorite being ctd (this game is 30% inspired from Arknights) , take an example in null chamber, some super tanky enemies comes REAAALLLYYY early in the match. But they won't move unless the wave lock's countdown on them reach 0. (Some immediately remove the wavelock if taking hit earlier, yeah you're fucked when it does) And sacrificial hall (this mode is solo only) where you customize the game difficulty. Despite the solution and strat somehow simple you will eventually clapped real hard if you're clueless. And many more special mode. Even all the event of this game (the endless space of burning time, the endless space of random time, catseye lair, and desolation) is creatively designed. I wish this game gets the recognition it deserves. (This game has ZERO GAMBLING)
tds' soundtrack is mostly being carried and i mean ABSOLUTELY carried by one singular person named phoqus. he's the real reason why you can hear bangers throughout playing the game in which he delivers so well. before they hired phoqus in the early days of tds, they used music from other creators like lchvasse for the 2019 halloween event. but now, almost all their soundtrack is revolved around this one guy.
Imo, Tower Galactica is THE BEST tower defense game on Roblox Tower Galactica is a story-mode based bullet hell TD game (yes, bullet hell) with 3 Galaxies (or worlds/stages) with each having atleast 5 planets (or levels) The first galaxy is honestly really boring, being somewhat a generic TD game But when you reach level 2-3a (Planet Duhovnic), OH MY GOD you're gonna be questioning if this is even a TD game I consider this game the hardest TD game out there simply because of the stupid ass mechanics seen in Duhovnic and the entirety of the 3rd galaxy for more info, you can watch Nol's video on why he loves this game
They have been fixing skins as of recent and dude if your going to call something unpolished you do have to explain why it is otherwise your take is just useless.
I think it would be interesting if you try Tower Defense X too! It includes 2 set of upgrades for towers and it's (shocking) not a gambling simulator that requires you to gamble to progress!
"This is like, hear me out here.. a real game!" rare words from eclipse, TDS community has been blessed
True 😭
TDS is as much of a game as Sol's RNG.
@@iymphocyte 10/10 ragebait
@@iymphocyte png of kali from library of ruina with the caption bait used to be believ- is that the red mist
@@RatherSpookynot good enough for us Sleeper Agents to REALLY run on in, buuuut you opened the floodgates with a clear conscious so awesome sauce
As someone who has been really invested in the TDS community for almost 3 years now, I'm really glad that someone with a big influence actually talked about this. It's so painful to see the high quality game that I've poured hundreds of hours into be overshadowed by a virtual slot machine. TYSM!
5:55 also just wanted to put this out here, but all songs in the game are composed exclusively by the in-house music developer, phoqus.
Don’t forget enthrallist too
If this game wasnt made we’d still have tower battles….
Not really TB is still in the Halloween event or sum@@dolphinboi5211
Ey i found my goat
@@dolphinboi5211if tower battles updated we would still have tower battles*
Tower Defense is like a cheap bowl, it has a common base but with polishing and effort into researching what pairs with your version of this bowl, it can truly become a superb bowl.
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@@mariowithagun1941BOWL.
I like bowls.
This might be put into ddos lol
TDS is really fun but the grind is ABSOLUTELY horrible like what kind of casual player is gonna get 4500 gems for one tower
I did
you put that grind on yourself 😂those towers arent required to win lol
Good game, bad grind, bad playerbase
Because it wasn't made for the casual player, literally the mode where you can get gems is "Hardcore", i don't think the hardest mode on the entire game and calling it hardcore is not a very casual player thing, besides, that is literally THE most expensive tower, everything before that is either more cheap or easier to get, you don't even need it because in the point that you can get the tower you are probably beated the entire game inclouding the special gamemodes
@@JulianOscar-t6w this.
As a 2019 veteran of tds and a lvl 326 I would like to thank you for making my day. Seeing you find this amazing game and give such a good word is so special to me!
so i am a normal person who hasnt been adicterd for 6 years
@@Reid-g1v indeed
same
Nice to see a positive review of TDS for once, as a player who’s been playing since 2020 the most baffling thing to me is that the most hate from the game comes from its own community, and it’s not even well founded. Idk if it’s just me but I’d take weekly updates with some paid aspects over a single event update every 5 months.
that's because the majority of the TDS community are children
Eclipse, in my opinion this is a golden era of TDS. We used to get content droughts for years similar to yba. Right now tds is on a roll and have been coming out with content pretty much each update. The game is better than it has ever been (not in players playing but maybe idrk) I hope you continue to enjoy the game.
worse than it has ever been*
@ can you explain?
@@Idkfrfrll The gambling. The plush exclusive skins. The ungodly amounts of PTW. The premium battlepass. The ridiculous overpriced skins.
@@h_geen you mean the spin the wheel for gambling the event towers and skins that you have an option to buy or not to buy?
@@h_geenwhat does p2w mean to you lmao
i've been playing this game for pretty much 5 years now, and soon will be hitting level 300(i know i know, super low level for someone who's been there since the start) and i gotta say, i was NOT expecting you of all people to talk positively about tds, specially considering how much the community likes to shit on it, but im extremely happy to see that you liked it. also unlike those anime tower defense, tds is actually quite hard, i can barely beat fallen mode(the fourth difficulty) by myself, which is kinda crazy considering i have the best towers in the game, and the special modes sometimes give me headaches with how much preparation you need.
but on a mostly unrelated note, all the soundtracks for tds are made by phoqus, and i don't think any of the ones used in game are from somewhere else aside from maybe molten doom(the theme of the big lava guy you killed). i really recommend you check some of them out on your free time because they are absolute bangers.
i am back from the future to say, do not listen to those guys saying the grind is bad, and that the game used to be better before, because the grind is only there for the golden and hardcore towers, and the game used to be extremely bare bones before. people are just angry the game with a dev team of nearly 30 people needs a lot of money.
This.
W comment, very true. People are blinded by nostalgia
lvl 300 is kinda alot for a casual player!
@jamesamongus3338 it is quite a lot, but the sheer amount of xp fallen and night 3 of the event gives has made it quite a easy task to level up. I'm pretty sure just In the last week or so I went up 40 levels
I think people who shit on the game are stuck in the past, but ironically enough it's the past of the game they hate most
there most certainly used to be a time where without accelerators and/or golden towers you couldn't get anywhere (that's the one reason I didn't get executioner), but I'd say that time is long past
there are viable alternatives to all the grind-intensive towers now
out of SEVEN viable end game DPS towers, two of them don't require an excessive amount of grinding (turret & ranger), while pursuit is still less grindy than golden towers or hardcore stuff imo
I do agree for the most part, but there is a gambling aspect. You can get golden towers, which are usually complete upgrades to their normal variants, through super expensive crate that gives one of these variants at random. Its not the end of the world, but I just wanted to point out that it does have some gambling shenanigans since some golden towers are more useful than others.
You can actually straight up buy golden towers form the shop, granted you do have to wait a while but atleast its an option.
not to mention the giant wheel in spawn with shit tons of colors very much meant to get children hooked to spinning it (which costs robux)
there is rng in every roblox game, just not rng that is required for progression. that was the point he made, its like none of yall watched the video
@@Extr1um483not really if you play some games you can get some spin tickets which you use for those you can buy the tickets straight up if you’d like but it’s a drop rate at the end of a marxh
Match*
Oops, I accidently did a soft restart on Eclipse at 8:05. Sorry in advance!
LOL
Sorta change of pace on this one, good to see that you address things that are needed. Keep up the great work eclipse
I mean I love tds. But a tower defense game I really like is tower heroes. Btw this is coming from somebody who’s been in the roblox tower defense community ever since 2019 thank you for acknowledging that not all tower defense games are bad this is why you’re my goat eclipse.
Agreed, Tower Heroes is the only game that made me feel like griding for discover the game more, plus I personally like the graphics more, and it's arguably harder than TDS, making it a better game for strategies.
And also Niko Oneshot my beloved
@@Le_C4smiccits far easier than tds
I used the play the game. While it can be fun at times. It has very bland mechanics compared to other TD games on the platform, also it having a rather slow update schedule with most of the content being limited time events doesn’t help its case.
@@fili2871 ehhh, I don't think so, they are making the newest bosses have less hp than before, and old strong towers even stronger than before, with few exceptions, such as the ranger.
Meanwhile Tower heroes has a consistent Hp for bosses, and has no characters that guarantee wins, obviously there's meta units, but they still don't have something "demoman" like in the unit shop, even the wizard can be powerful
@@fili2871 you clearly never played blastech barrage or break barrens
xD gonna send this to my friend who plays EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMNNED anime tower defense.
you also should send him mental therapist
@@Gumball3139nah send him a wood therapist 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Gumball3139 does a metal therapist hit their patients with metal
@@Gumball3139 if so, anime td players really do need them
@@KindaCrazyAndInsaneI played some anime td's
But Thats Because
Geometry TD: I beated it (not now Because of the só MUCH more updates)
Tds: I Got bored 🤠👍
And much others td's, now im in Ball TD, Its really good
A few things, I’ve been playing tds since release and am over level 500 at this point, I can honestly say that tds is probably THE best tower defence game on Roblox, from the AMAZING orginal ost has been great from the first soundtrack, (I still listen to the old event songs), to the voice acting in the events, to everything. I would love to see you make a follow up video on tds where you get more into the game, but I understand you don’t like the genre as a whole. Also to answer your question about the music not being from tds, there was a point in time back in 2019 where the final boss music wasn’t original, but for the past 3-4 years, all soundtracks in the game have been made by phoques, a extremely talented music artist.
2:47 Speaking of Portal, have you tried TUNNELER on Roblox? It's in the category of "telling you it's a Roblox game but you wouldn't believe me" kind of thing. I'd say the same for another game called Hellreaver Arena, I don't know if you can unpack a lot about Hellreaver Arena but go for it too if you feel up to it. Lastly I'm putting one more game here as another reccomendation, It's called Nexus. I was going to stop at Portal but I just suddenly remembered a few more games, I know I'm missing a few more in mind too. I don't know if I commented multiple times UA-cam kept returning me errors.
Fun fact: the developers for Hellreaver (PoptartNoahh and CanyonJack) are currently working on a military VR roblox game. Check out their channel, it’s some amazing stuff
i loved tunneler lol, sad than it doesnt pass the 100 players
DECAYING WINTER(day 62)
One day
(he won't like it)
Main things he would rant on about:
Unforgiving for little reason other than roguelite
Doesn't tell you anything
No progression other than cosmetics and very easily fillable achievements/perks
Solo play is not recommended for new players, which he would inevitably do
High bar of entry and very "wiki this" game knowledge
"Unbalanced game with no updates" (soon to be updated regularly)
YES
@@lpmatthews7387 that tutorial update will come any day now
Eclipse won't like decaying winter
Hell yeah, Eclipse played a TD game that had actual effort put into it!! Yippie!
Also, correction on 5:55, that is incorrect, all tracks are composed by Phoqus and Enthrallist, so maybe you mistook one of the tracks for something from another piece of media
some of their tracks are remixes of others
Exactly one of the Examples Are Grave Buster
@@shinycake143
@@shinycake143 yeah, what probs happened is that he heard the grave digger theme which is just a remix of monastery in disguise
I think he means the really old one, cause pre 2021 alot of music is from other games.
Used to put effort
as someone who has been playing tds since 2019 and won every single event, I feel like the new player experience of 2019 was magical and is something that I can never get back again
Wow, I've been playing TDS for 5 years and never did eclipse making a video about TDS came across my mind
Same
this is just not possible man how can there be soo many of you that play x time consuming game for way too long
@@LeoB100is fun to see other opinions, and the one you learn the most are the one that you most dislike; yet true in some way.
@@LeoB100 grew up with the game, i take breaks but i ultimately come back to it and i still enjoy it
@LeoB100 Yeah usee to play one simply due to being invested
Try TDX, it’s essentially TDS but with more heavy emphasis on realism, in its textures and military themed
Very unique, and bosses also kill your towers
Also made by someone who supported TDS
He doesnt really need to try more td games, he already made many points that apply to nearly every non gamble td game.
Both tds and tdx just keep improving and i love it.
tdx is far more fun to play than tds, and i will not be told otherwise
@ TDX is for the more experienced TD players, TDS is more beginner friendly
So there’s not much of a challenge if you know what you’re doing
@Pin0fPoints id argue tower heroes is more beginner friendly tbh
Let's go, he finally plays it. And as a veteran TDS player, I am well aware that it has a fuck ton of issues. It's highly tower and stat based, the grind is insufferable, and the devs seem to be slowly loosing themselves. But it isn't the worst thing out there, but its important to know that this is just a worse Bloons TD6, but could still be worth your time, when it doesn't suck.
tds fun
As a long player that's quit a long time ago, it's so saddening to see majority of "content" updates turn into just skins and or tower reworks that aren't even worth using
Forgot to mention how it's a shitty clone of another, better game
@@Fluffernater tower battles is the goat
@@Fluffernater It's hilarious that when they run out of towers to copy from Tower Battles, they just throw together some word vomit and call it a tower, or just make a SLIGHTLY different version of an existing tower.
For other tower defense games to look at, see:
Tower Defense X: Probably one of the best on the platform despite all the hate it seems to get for very little reason. They, to my knowledge, are currently working on some big QoL updates, so you might want to wait a bit.
Tower Galactica: Discontinued game with heavy emphasis on its story with gameplay to match. Quality >>> Quantity here.
also on the topic of RNG and TDS, I hate to tell you that you're wrong here, but unfortunately golden crates exist.
Golden crates give one of a small selection of random towers a "golden" variant that is different (and usually substantially better) than its base counterpart. They cost 50k gold a piece and cannot give dupes luckily.
also stop torturing yourself and use upgrade keybinds.
what are you doing, the E key is right there, why are you moving your mouse across the entire screen, you're hurting my soul.
don’t forget CTD
@@xgame_jamesx8670 I've never played it so I can't speak for or against it.
You can always wait for the golden tower you want to appear in the shop.
about golden crates specifically, keep in mind you're still guaranteed A golden tower when buying the golden crate (and they can't give dupes as you said)
some are more useful than others yes (golden crook boss), but you cannot compare this kind of rng to the slot machines of many popular "tower defense" games on roblox
The golden crate rng shenanigans ended a long time ago as you can just buy them straight from the shop now, granted you have to wait but its a way better option and im glad they added it.
as a player of tds that started playing it back in 2021, that hit lvl 475, that owns almost every tower in game excluding couple of exclusive ones, that potentially wasted over 2k hours on this game and grinded over 500k coins and 35k gems overall i could say yes the game is fun for td genre fans
im just getting my dose of dopamine when im placing some towers and theyre just shredding everything on the path, using unique combination of the loadout, knowing that it HAD some logic in there like for example you couldnt mixup pyromancer tower and freezer tower cause fire just melts ice, for a context: freezer tower freezing enemies, right? wrong cause if u have pyromancer in loadout then u couldnt freeze up enemies cause of pyromancers fire. well, that was until the update that was couple weeks ago, now u can just mixup freezing and fire towers
Actually the feature of freeze cancelling fire effects got deleted so you can use both again (i just realized you know they can mix again lol sorry my bad)
Glad it only took me 273 levels to realize how boring this game is and pull the plug, yet some people are still going. Quite depressing.
@@iymphocyteprobably not your cup of tea
the thing i like most about TDS is that a more pricey tower doesnt mean its better. Every tower has its cons and pros and while some towers are definitely worse than others, most towers have their own mechanics that make them better in one situation and worse in another
11:54 also TDX is a good tower defense alternative, the bosses are pretty epic and it has a realistic style, cus I’ve heard some people say they don’t like tds cus it feels like a “kids game”.
too bad tdx is paced like shit
I just cant get into tdx because of the grind :/
also not sure how tds would be a kids game but alr i guess let people think what they wanna think lol.
@@RuvinPlaysOfficial because the style looks childish, he compares tdx style with tds one
Tdx isn't beginner friendly and is much harder which would make someone like eclipse probably not like the game
@@doomsdaymufffin Ehh cartoony doesnt always mean childish though, the conserver and drakobloxxer are examples of that, they dont look that childish for being cartoony
I used to love TDS before the rework, where it felt like there was actual strategy involved between modes. Now it just feels like “who has the bigger stat stick” and the grind is horrendous.
so true
i grinded TDS so much, i had commando and wish i had gladiator it was my favorite unit and played till the lobby rework and hardcore because the game fell off
Pre hardcore update TDS was the shit back then.
They’ve reworked a lot of stuff lately. So just pure damage doesn’t work anymore. The grind still kinda sucks but they’ve made a lot of starter towers better.
yeah and tds is sooo repetitive its just survival. When they introduced pvp in testing, it was SO MUCH FUN taking a break from survival
I'm so glad you could appreciate TDS despite not being a tower defense guy! TDS does have a lot of gamepasses, however they aren't shoved in your face and they just need them because of the massive development team constantly pushing out weekly content updates. Hopefully one day TDS won't be overshadowed by those garbage anime TD games. Also, I know Toxic Injection already said this in the comments but all the songs are in fact composed by Phoqus and Enthrallist since you were wondering about that at 5:55. The entire OST is insane
Idk if Eclipse would like TDX tbh, but I think he’d appreciate the mechanics at least (TDX is literally just TDS but with more mechanics and being more difficult and more trial and error / strategy based)
TDS is more casual, TDX is for more veteran players of the TD genre. Still, hope he *actually* plays TDX, since it's a pretty damn good game. Also, just imagine him realizing that bosses above easy mode can kill your towers
@@RaulWagner-ju9pz Agreed, TDX is harder than TDS as well (imo) but I think he'd enjoy it since TDX is kinda difficult.
@@RadiatedStarhow tf do you beat expert. I literally can't beat it without armored factory(well before its terrible nerf to bottom path)
Expert is easy ngl, you just gotta enough towers when the knight on wave 10 or whatever wave it was, comes in, you either have multiple towers to deal with it, or you have one powerful tower to deal with it. Early game is the hardest part of Expert, after you get past early game it should be easy.
@@RadiatedStar the whole gamemode is hard wtf. How the hell do you beat it
happy to see you liked TDS :D
6:51 Holy shit, this concept is too crazy. Witch craft.
Glad to see you playing a Roblox tower defense game that is actually strategic.
Are you saying ATD's dont have strategic features?
world tower defense is better at the strategic part imo, not saying its bad though
@@BigFloppaLover99 TDS Neighter wtd is a good strategicy game tower battles is an actually td game with a lot of stratagys
@@scyvo Yes. The most strategic part is getting the best tower. Also I didn’t say all ATD suck(Most do). He has only played one.
@@goopmallow3960 So you are saying the most strategic thing in a ATD is getting the towers?
Ty for talking about what was my first Roblox game that I actually enjoyed playing this game was my entire childhood this game has a special place in my heart that it will never loose but I quit because I fell behind so much it was almost impossible to bring myself back to the meta and then when I try to come back I realize I forgot all the strategies what is in the waves and I forgot how to effectively and efficiently use money and gain money also anime vanguards is like anime last stand but with actually good graphics and it gives a Sh.t ton of codes
a thing i love about tds is that you need to get flying detection, lead detection and hidden detection
this is great because you need to use different towers to detect these and u need to use 10% of ur brain instead of anime last stands that u place a meta dps a unit to hold and a meta farm (that wins you a match)
i think anime last stand has flying too , and in any anime td games it’s a absolute pain to deal with them
@@owl365-guywell the problem is that if your really fucking unlucky, you could just not get a tower with flying detection, so your pretty much dead
i have been playing tds for years, thank you for reviewing it!!!
been playing since beta, im glad you enjoyed the game
I love this game, it’s really fun but other td games i would recommend is tdx (though it’s difficult so it may not be enjoyable) and (while I haven’t played it much myself) tower heroes
The grinding for the golden crates once you get all the towers is probably the worst the grinding will get taking about 15 hours for one while you need 6 for all of the skins (which give perks that make towers better). Although I feel it’s less supposed to be a grind and more of an overtime goal which makes it bearable.
tdx is not that hard tbh.
@ yea but it is definitely harder than tds.
TDS grind is horrible, but the game is still really fun and worth it. Another td game is Doomspire Defence, it’s a bit difficult starting off but can be incredibly fun.
Also, play Rougeblade, it’s sorta like RGD and actually does a few things better than it - mainly the shop.
Doomspire Defense, my GOAT
"its almost as if the people who made this care and not just making it a shitty cash grab gambling simulator"
as a level 175, i will tell you that is a wild statement
It is pay to win, but the only gambling is skins, skins do not give bonus stats besides gold, so ya
@@deadnews1231 So it does affect gameplay...
how so?
i quitted at level 438 cause the game is so boring
@@penguinspenguinspenguins i don't believe golden skins need to be super important to strategy, i see strategies can include without golden towers. All i see is that golden tower give a much efficient method on doing the any strategy.
That roulette is an insult to everyone playing this game, it was added like a couple of months ago and it makes the game look a skibidi toilet type shit game. They just have to make the roulette look like the one from cs
5:58 not hate, but fyi, there are no osts from other games in TDS. All of the songs even from the beginning were made from Phoqus. The songs are fire tho, i think you can also agree to it.
nah there is some
just remixed
the original planned void reaver theme was taken from terarria.
Don't forget enthrallist too (Probably wrote it wrong)
Grave digger's theme: 🌚
@@jadennguyen2852 Actually
Raze The Void was first, then the devs replaced it with after hardcore testing, but then there were some issuesand then they replaced it back Raze The Void
also yes, it was taken from terarria HOMEVER it was remixed
TDS? Looks like a sign to play TDX. Because different yet similar tower defense experience... Only in TDX.
TDX is so good
Evil john: i will make a balanced game with fun progression
Evil john: I won’t make absurd prices
Evil tds players: I don’t need google docs
@@deathlygamingreal
also evil tds players: I don't hate every update that they release for no reason
@@Alguien_random_aqui people act like prehardcore was the peak of tds completely ignoring the update times
Two years for toxic gunner just for it to become mid
hey its me the guy who reccomended you find everything
you want a GOOD tower defense game? play tower galactica. the enemies GET OUT OF THE PATH AND COME BEAT YOU UP YOURSELF. theres LIVES. its UNIQUE, you ACTUALLY NEED SKILL AND A STRATEGY!!
The enemies killing you are only a part of the third galaxy (apart from one revamped stage)
But regardless it still is a pretty good (but unfinished and discontinued) game
6:58 Jesus... Hearing this while knowing what comes next in the late game made me audibly say "Yikes"
(please remove gold crate rng)
No more rng in golden crate, friend! I guess you are a little late, golden skins appears on the daily shop and you can chose the one you want!
@@starplatinumzawarudo1003 Sadly, it is still quite rare to see the skin you want get put on the daily skin shop.
@@albertoeinstein69i don’t think it’s rare i’ve already seen every g tower in the daily shop, it’s pretty common you just should check the shop more
unfortunately it doesn't seem like eclipse noticed somehow, although he does call these "1st impressions" and not full-on reviews so, and yes there's that daily store you may still have to wait for the golden perk you want to appear
The store rotates between skins, and it depends on how rare the skin is for it to appear
I have played TDS since 2019 and still love it. It’s sad how these trash games are getting bigger. I feel like the reputation of TDS is getting better and that it will reclaim the throne.
11:12 You are SO RIGHT, I heard that the TDS devs actually care about balancing their games while also having to monetise some items since they're such a big company.
Also Eclipse, TDS isn't the only game who have devs that actually care for it, there are games like TDX and Doomspire Defense. There are probably more TD games with good devs, but those are the most known.
The issue with tdx is that it has balancing issues (At least when i played it and some people that are still playing told me that it still had them)
Tower heroes is another good tower defense game
Tower Blitz is also high quality but the creators abandoned it in favor of evade (Still gets some maintenance updates and some devs are making a sequel)
@@Erased_UnityXDXI think people are honestly overreacting when it comes to tdx balancing. I really I don’t find balancing issues all too present in tdx, I honestly think it’s better than the tds balancing.
Other than ranger, I haven’t really found any tower useless. Beginner towers like operator or John have been useful in the last two events and towers like shotgunner or mine layer can still see play from more advanced players due to mine layer excelling in endless and shotgunner unstunning towers and healing towers.
fax those two are the best on roblox
@@assadguy Alright, thanks for sharing this
@@Erased_UnityXDX TDX is fucking glazed so much. Like the grind in that is as bad if not worse and I'm pretty sure the dev made changes to make sure grinding strategies didn't work. Buddy, if people need grinding strategies I'm pretty sure it's your fault for how you made the game. Same goes for Hardcore mode in TDS. That shit was horrendous and still is.
tds no life here. I approve of this video
9:15 Eclipse discovering the basics of bosskilling in a td. All td games allow this to happen aswell, especially the good ones.
its not a particulary interesting thing, and it's not going to be something you do often in the best td game. Of course selling is sometimes better but not because you need to move your entire dps to the end of the track.
Im playing TDS for 5 years already, and still enjoy it. And the best thing in this game is that you need create a strategies, and a good teamwork, not just roll SUPERB SSS MYTHIC TOWER. Its really cool to see someone finally saying good stuff about this game! (And i would like to see more videos from TDS! if you would need any help tho, im here)
Im so glad where TDS is now, TDS really finally stepped up and started goin at it after its absolute drout and delays
Yes because they finally saw the potential the game had and hired more developers
Day 1 of asking you to play defend the statue: NP edition, its a super fun fps defend the tower game with epic bossfights, progression, and mechanics. The worst part is how its pretty beginner unfriendly and the badge grinds (they are optional)
Give tdx a try, its more impactful with its music, gameplay, and even animations. Not to mention the boss designs and their behaviour. As every boss there is very unique as they all do different things (like plague doctor dishes out debuffs to your towers, and eradicator kills your towers and mapwide stuns all towers if at 20-40% hp (this is to let any weaker enemies get past him as he also is stunned until the towers are back up)) in my opinion tdx is a better executed version of tds as the grind is still horrid, however they did improve upon it by introducing achievements and first time map difficulty beaten. It also has endless where it introduces new bosses exclusive towards endless. If you join now you might get disappointed about it having a battlepass system but thats only for the current event its going for where it gives you 3 free robux units (which are perm when you get them) skins power ups etc. Just a heads up.
TDX has a worse grind as a trade-off.
half the bosses in tdx are stronger versions of previous bosses
tdx grind is horrid*
hope this helped!
@@crizblu6615 Just because they share a name and general design?
The only 2 bosses that come to mind are Eradicator MK 1 C and Revived plague doctor being upgraded versions of Plague doctor and Eradicator.
All other bosses are pretty different other than the names
@ I love Eradicator, Eradicator MK II, Eradicator MK IV, Eradicator MK IC, Golden Eradicator MK IV, Golden Eradicator MK IC, Corrupted Eradicator MK II, and Eradicator MK II+! So original!
9:02 the tactic you described is used in 99% of roblox tower defense games, including all the anime ones. It's not new news
Just let unc enjoy his game lil bro
@@arro4066 No one enjoys misinformation my friend
He says he doesn't like the tds genre. How is he supposed to know it if he doesnt give a shit about the genre he's just saying his experience with tds and comparing it to the anime one
@@DankRobot what misinformation what
Yes, it’s called micromanagement (most people say micro for short though) and it’s where you quickly manage your towers usually to do more damage.
as an og tds player i am really thankfull a good influencer actually gives the game credit for what its good at
Thank you for bringing more attention to tds, as someone that has played since 2020 im glad you played this. Pretty sad how the dev team works hard but the updates get overshadowed by gambling slots
?????
You should try playing TDS's event! the easy mode of all three nights actually give you pre made loadouts, so you can just choose one and hop in without worrying about grinding, + you still get a pretty good early game tower for beating all three on easy mode! They're also really high quality, with voice acting and surprisingly solid animations. Give it a go! i promise you that it won't disappoint
Unfortunately the event is over, so it can’t be played anymore, which honestly sucks because it was probably the most high quality event we’ve had so far.
Bro recommend the event a day after it was over 💀😭🙏
I've been playing TDS and TDX since release, same with TBZ, Tower Defenders, and others.
I'm glad you noticed one of my favourites, and one of the most dedication i put into the game.
LETS FUCKING GOOOO TBZ RULES
tbz is peak
He doesn't know about the late-game grind of TDS...
trauma
severe hardcore matchmaking trauma
Void Reaver when he sees a level 50 player enter hardcore elevator: Send in mega slow and 3 shadow bosses
Thy pain
Another interesting quality that TDS has is that for limited time events, they have an "easy" or "hard" mode. The easy mode gives you a selection of loadouts to use in order to beat the event, even if you don't have said towers, so you get a chance to use the tower before actually deciding to grind for it.
What is interesting, you wrote about how much you adored, "Find Everything" and now "Tower Defense Simulator" and both have the same Developer, Nomer who does both games. So it's not surprising! Thanks again for telling everyone how much you loved both of the games!
They do not have the same developer. One of them is asian
For clarification there are 19 Developers on the "Tower Defense Simulator" which nomer is one and works on both games. I hope this clears this up a bit!
If you want more TD games on roblox, I would recommend "Critical Tower Defense", "World Tower Defense", "Tower Heroes" and "Tower blitz"(this is the former game of the creators of evade).
He would hate wtd since it's solo and early game experience is hell.he would also call ctd mid since a lot the games cool things like toll and order are locked behind hours of grind.but I do think he would like th and tbz
@alimehrabi519r2 lol, you're absolutely right about the wtf, maybe could become a funny video
@@alimehrabi519r2 yeah ngl ctd isnt very new player friendly because all the late game stuff is way more fun to use. If he does try it he needs to really play it.
Eclipse have you ever played a Devil May Cry game? I feel like those games are right up your alley.
Hey, 2019 TDS player (with more hours than I'd like to admit) over here who has played several other TD games such as Roblox Tower Heroes, Tower battles, Tower blitz, and TD games outside of roblox such as Bloons TD6 and more. However I still stand that TDS is my favourite game I constantly revisit the game because of their events and amazing soundtracks.
I agree with most of your points with modern Roblox TD games being gambling simulators however the reason I believe that TDS isn't as appealing as something like anime TDs is because of the difficulty and the original characters. TDS has tried to address this issue with a simplified tutorial and easy mode, removing confusing gamemodes (golden). They tried reducing tower levels (most from 5 to 4) to make them easier to understand to the average 9 year old. However what I fear is that they're slowly marketing TDS too similar to other tower defense games on Roblox with their new click-baity thumbnails and rainbow gambling wheels at spawn. I hope this video shows as a wake-up call for the TDS devs to understand that this game's beginning level and skill should be lowered but maintain the high skill cap at the lower progressions of the game.
I see people complaining about progressions, however the late game towers that requires hundreds of hours of grind aren't something that should be rushed into. Obviously these are kids who want their big dopamine kicks with the crazy tower stats. I enjoy how they break-up events with different stages to provide to different people at different skill stages of the game. The latest event's final part of the stage however, was way too simplistic and easy.
bro wants aura so bad
Agreed.
tds has original characters?
I miss tower blitz
TDS is a cashgrab clone of Tower Battles
Sometimes I forget that 3-5 years ago TDS carried the entire platform on its back along with the other greats of the time (excluding the simulators that oversaturated the platform and brought Roblox into the dark ages) and for that it kinda does earn some respect from me. As an experience, I could reccomend anyone play it for a couple of hours, unlock a few basic towers, beat a few hard tracks, and conquer all the difficulties... and then quit immediately because the grind becomes awful.
Not sure if you covered this topic but you can literally win any mode, specifically the harder ones by using a document with a strategy, so long you have the towers to use for the strategy, you'll be fine
TDS is a pretty good game and despite its problems, I still stuck to it for 4 years reaching level 655
It would be interesting to see what you think of TDX though
Fun fact: TDX's first anniversary is today!
Probably wouldn't like it as much due to it being not beginner friendly. Plus, the game is pretty hard which would make someone like eclipse not like the game
@@leonardotrujillo8661tdx is great if you experiment with your towers
level 655?!?!?! damn i have been around for 4 years too and im just around level 266, ur crazy as hell
@@leonardotrujillo8661 its beginner friendly if you have picked easy modes, i quit tdx due to its grindy aspects but i dont think its that bad, it has effort put in too.
I reccoment Critical Tower Defense, TDX (its in beta and really grindy though) and Tower Galactica if you wanna see what a TD game on roblox can be. CTD likes to experiment with the genra by introducing map mechanics and other neat stuff. TDX main selling point is the visuals and the hp mechanic. TG at the halfway point (Duhovnic) becomes a survival game combined with a TD game, you have to dodge or take damage (you have 5 lives per match so don't waste em), too bad it got discontinued while the devs were reworking the second solar system.
Tdx is really only in beta because he hasn't released like 4 towers that would absolutely break the metaand powercreep the whole game(its not like thats already a thing)
@@leonardotrujillo8661powercreep? The hell is powercreep in TDX? The only exactly case of powercreep in TDX is golden minelayer and minelayer, other than else is fine
Good to see that some people do appreciate games that have actual effort in em
Really amazing video. If you make another one you should play TDX, it's a extreamealy well made and fun (the sound track itself is one of the best in roblox)
Thing is, most TD games in Roblox aren't actual Tower Defense games as much as they're just idle games with SOME TD aspects.
You literally just place the guy with the most stats a bunch of times, wait half an hour, come back and repeat, no strategy involved
isn't that all tower defense games? besides you can't just place the guy with most stats a bunch of times unless you are already at the end of the game, where you will already have spent time playing it.
@@MatterOrNot You shouldn't be able to do that no matter how far into the game you are.
@@MatterOrNot no? most TD games actually require you to PLAY the game, not just place a single tower and deal enough damage to every single type of enemy(lol, as if bad Roblox TD games have something other than "fast" and maybe "regen" enemies) to steamroll through them no matter their positioning, synergies, passives or whatever other ability they have in their game.
Even at the end of most good TD games you can't just spam the same stat-stick tower without at least adding in some buff or support towers
Average anime tower defense:
@@thelikebutton3369 so if you are like, 2 waves from ending the game and you have enough money you shouldn't put good towers?
I think the problem with tower defense games is that its usually repetitive grinding and usually one mode. But at least tds is getting pvp mode soon...
if it takes them like 6 years to add that thats crazy. I wonder if they'll innovate from being just regular pvp. i think it'll probably be the exact same as tb pvp, or i guess bloons td battles
@@aperson626 btd battles in tds was so much fun even though it was buggy. It shouldnt take that long to make pvp.
@@louie-t2e the thing is that it shouldn’t just be a rehash of BTD battles. That’s not good.
@@aperson626 They already did few testings for pvp this year, its much more fun than tower battles, having similiar eco to Bloons TD.
Also the PVP is coming soon (either before or after the winter event), so it won't take 6 years
@@aperson626 TDX is gonna get pvp by year 2 most likely.
You can't really talk about "the roblox tower defence genre" without talking about tower battles (abbreviated to TB rather than TDS), since it's kinda the first ever tower defence game on roblox. I'm not saying it's better than tower defence simulator (even if tds did effectively start out as a tb knock-off) but it's a good game to take reference from when rating these tower defence games.
I do warn, it's a bit more "retro" with it's graphics and it doesn't have a lot of its own sounds nor music since it's so old. But it has even less rng than Tds! Not even the cosmetic skins are randomly selected! There is one clear downside; it has caught a serious case of beeswarm-itis, its dev "Planet3arth" hasn't updated it since.. last, last, halloween. He's busy with irl stuff and doesn't update the game a whole lot anymore.
But he helps on developing other TD games like TDX
oh tds did not "just" start as a tb knock off, its a literal reskinned tb cope more
@@serily4524 what do you mean cope more? No one cares that TDS took everything from a mid ass game and made it better. It's not even close at all. Copying should be okay if you did it better and this is an instance.
@@thesmileman6931 Personally I wouldn't consider tds better.
@@zennon_youtube How do people manage to enjoy outdated garbage? The only thing Tower Battles has going is the PVP which is cancer because of balancing.
6:03 Some of the TDS's soundtracks are remixes of soundtracks from other games (for example Grabuster (Grave digger's theme) is a remix of Monastery in Disguise)
also reason why the music didn't start was most likely because you played on molten mode, the Gamemode doesn't have soundtracks, it will change soon when the whole mode is reworked
I am happy that you enjoyed the game, the game is grindy, but its still better than gambling simulator. (also main reason why its grindy is because of outdated hardcore mode that is going to be reworked in the future and also the golden skins)
Nah, the music is just bugged sometimes and it just doesn't play unless you change the volume in the settings.
@@leonardotrujillo8661 It only bugs out due to lag
homever as Eclipsed mentioned in the video, he did play on molten mode, so that was definitly the moment were music didn't start playing
Theres also a really good td game, called Geometry td, i beated it but it probably updated way more than im here but its a really very good Td game
As someone who is level 300 in tds its quite good. I do enjoy the grind but i understand why some people wont. Theres a ton of content and modes/events. Its really unique while i enjoy ALS i always come back to tds as it very certain to getting towers besides gambling. People say its p2w though i think they are just coping with the fact they dont have specific towers.
is it not p2w though? it has MANY gamepasses for towers that take tons of grinding to get or is unobtainable. The vip pass and subscription increase exp gain to make getting level towers easier
@@LiamArmstrong2 I see where your coming from and i agree there is alot of p2w features in tds. Though i think compared to others games its not too p2w. Plus the towers dont boost your skill even if you get accelerator/engineer at lvl 2 you still wont be a top player.
@@LiamArmstrong2 and it's also the devs jobs, they were struggling before even upping the quality with money issues. Which is why they have tons of plushy merchandise. Since the massive quality crank they introduce things to offset the amount of money it took to make these genuinely super enjoyable updates
@@LiamArmstrong2depends on your defitinition. does it make the game easier? in a way yeah. do you need to buy it? not nessesarily since you can get most things via playing and the event towers arent the best. ive had fun just never buying anything and just going with the regular progression especially now that a lot of the new player towers like hunter and crook boss have been buffed
@@LiamArmstrong2the VIP gives you 1.25x exp which is not even worth it to be called p2w and for the gamepass tower excuse, you should actually try, you know, playing the game?
Tower defence simulator... not a cashgrab, the devs care? Wow, hearing those words from Eclipse is insane, last time I played that game many years ago it was quite literally a p2w cashgrab that got an update every year at best.
The hell is p2w? Bro, what are you yapping?
When was tds p2w? The first 3 years of the game were barely using any gamepasses, and if so l, it was just to boost your progress. There was not a single robux thing that gave you unfair advantages.
I think bro mistook the features for a different game
I think we haven't played the same game
You should try TDX. It has less content than TDS but I do prefer the gameplay from it, since the game as a pathing system for towers which makes it more interactive. Also no gambling for towers.
I know you will probably get a lot of tower defense recommandation and I do understand you dont like these but just incase.
True, but idk about less content... john constantly hosts new events, there are 4 core (canon) gamemodes and endless, it doesnt have less content, or ATLEAST it has as much content as tds perhaps
@@Tatoie It was a way to say it's still a younger game compared to TDS. It has nothing to envy.
Feels a lot less like a puzzle game and more like a strategy game
From the background music, i can tell this guy is a jojo fan
Eclipse, your points about Anime Last stand are valid, and that's why you should review Anime Vanguards, as it's everything that Last Stand ISN'T.
- Animations are top notch
- The sound effects are beautiful and crisp
- The Visuals are detailed and unique
- The gems are actually obtainable without spending a penny of your real money
- The trait rerolls are actually obtainable easily from "PARAGON" without spending a penny of your real money
- "Gambling", there's very low pity in this game compared to other games, meaning it's LESS of a gambling simulator as you are guaranteed your units after only a little gems
- The progression is actually very seamless as you have the option of story mode, legend stages, raids, boss raids, paragon, infinite, you never really feel like you're forced to do only one thing, you can do something else and still get stronger.
10:15 - This whole point about replacing the towers and having an intense last-minute boss fight, the same thing is present in Anime Vanguards' Current "SUKUNA BOSS" battle. It's by far the hardest thing in the game atm.
still a gambling simulator
vanguards is literally a 1:1 copy of defenders
Ok play critical tower defense
Want me to counter this?
You forgot about secret units *cough cough* ALUCARD, people have spent well over 1 million gems and still haven't gotten it, it's still a cashgrab
I recommend checking out Tower Defense X if you are interested in seeing what happens when the common tropes of TD games are pushed to greater extents. Sure, it still has the same problems most TD games have (namely Grinding and repetitiveness), but it compensates through how creative and fleshed out everything about the game feels.
You forgot slow and boring gameplay
Yeah, its really unique, like 2 tower paths, towers can die, endless mode, etc
just wait till someone mentions TDX
its trash tho
Not really trash just way to much grind to get new towers.
tdx is tooo hard if you dont establish how you can beat harder modes
@@majorfender6054 and why is that?
@@sirskibbles progression is horrid
Heres some "quick" history and facts about TDS:
TDS started off as a small school project between Raz and Below
Raz was one of the two lead devs until one day last year he just left (he left after The 3rd act of Lunar Overture released, which the community was very riled up over due to the hype in the events story being diminished) Its rumored Raz now works on TDX
Speaking of TDX, not long after TDS was opened to the public John Roblox a big roblox youtuber made a video on it. Said video blew up giving TDS its playerbase. John is responsible for animating/creating TDS' early trailers. The most prominent being the Overhaul Trailer, which won a Bloxy for Best Trailer.
TDS was the second Roblox Game that did a live event After Jailbreak. The Live Event was for Overhauls release however after the live event all of the games code basically unraveled so they had to do a quite literal last minute delay. The Overhaul update would of released Overhaul (basically a recode of the entire game) and Hardcore (new mode) These were released as two big updates with Hardcore Public testing being done right after the live event incident when the game finally opened.
TDS at one point kept being Jokingly called Tower Delay Simulator during the 2020-2023 era due to how little amount of updates the game had. 2021 only having less than 5 updates. Both of these being events. 2022 is when the game started getting frequent updates again.
Halfway around 2022 John left TDS dev team (he didn't leave the game entirely) to go make his own TD game known as Tower Defense X. It is assumed Raz went to work on TDX as well as recently he has been sighted alot in TDX. Nothing particularly major has happened between the time Raz left until the time TDX released. After TDX released, John and Below started communication up and they decided to plan Tag Team Updates. When TDX released Armored Factory for instance, TDS reworked Military Base. John also did damage control early one when people were going "OH *TD game here* COPIED *other TD game here"* by saying that they talked things through.
After this John has been up for a TDSxTDX collab. Which is still on the table to this day.
Oh right, when TDS did their duck hunt event, at this point all the towers used the default Roblox face. Due to a scare by Roblox about using Roblox Assets in games, TDS has ALL towers use custom faces now.
Thats all.
To me the issue with most Anime TD games, at least newer ones, is that they try to be the next Anime Adventures, both figuratively and literally. After the game was taken down people raced to make a game to take the place of the top anime td game. Many of these games just flat out copy many features from AA, from things like traits, raids, how the gacha system works, to how many of the units work. Because of this none of them feel unique or new. Heck even ASTD, the game that arguably started the trend of anime td games, started copying stuff from AA. it creates this issue of not really having a reason to stick to one when another will pop up a few weeks later doing the exact same thing. oh and yeah a lot of them also copy AA's tedious grind.
Honestly ASTD at it's peak is what I consider the best anime TD game, it just kinda sucks how far downhill it went from Fruit (the head developer) horribly plan out the game's future, more so not planning it at all. Updates filled with half baked ideas, the game becoming cluttered, old mechanics clashing with new mechanics, horrible attempts at fixing the power creep (We went from the best units for infinite doing 1k damage at max upgrades to 100 million.). In the end ASTD became a shell of its former self.
@@noirethings7000 i 100% agree with you
AA was also a cashgrab lol
It's just cashgrabs trying to copy another cashgrab (AA) which did the cashgrabing a bit better than other cashgrabs
probably going to get mentioned on DDoS, but please try tdx if your going to play tds
Nah, try TB, it's what TDS copied and added cashgrab RNG to
are they? i don't know. but what i do know is that they SUCK compared to a hidden gem of a game called Blox Fruit - i'm sure you haven't heard of it, it's pretty underground, but it's sooo high quality, it gets updated ALL THE TIME! and you know what the best part is? it has the most amazing combat i've ever seen on roblox, genuinely epilsce, you NEED to play this game.
Blox fruits? Or is it another game with another similar name
please tell me that is a similar name with the other game that feels like tf2 with the updates
@@michaelvanapeldoornblox fruit
and the progression is soo good
😭
Thank god. Finally some one talking about this problem
i was gonna say "if you like tds you should try tdx" but tdx requires like a degree in tower defense games to get into and fully appreciate
To be honest that's true. TDX should at least implement a tutorial system that could reward you with something if you complete it.
@@Shereen3 I agree.
It's just that some td games that actually made with passion and require some braining to beat are buried under the piles of garbage td games that are made only for money.
My favorite being ctd (this game is 30% inspired from Arknights) , take an example in null chamber, some super tanky enemies comes REAAALLLYYY early in the match. But they won't move unless the wave lock's countdown on them reach 0. (Some immediately remove the wavelock if taking hit earlier, yeah you're fucked when it does)
And sacrificial hall (this mode is solo only) where you customize the game difficulty. Despite the solution and strat somehow simple you will eventually clapped real hard if you're clueless.
And many more special mode. Even all the event of this game (the endless space of burning time, the endless space of random time, catseye lair, and desolation) is creatively designed. I wish this game gets the recognition it deserves. (This game has ZERO GAMBLING)
finally, someone else that recognises the gem of ctd
0:56 Roblax / Roblacks 😂
Tdx is also an option.
Only in tdx
tds fell off hard for me
feels corporate instead of a home brewed project which is what im on roblox for
also the artstyle change is ass
What's wrong with the artstyle?
Its pretty saturated ngl@@the2050th
tds' soundtrack is mostly being carried and i mean ABSOLUTELY carried by one singular person named phoqus. he's the real reason why you can hear bangers throughout playing the game in which he delivers so well. before they hired phoqus in the early days of tds, they used music from other creators like lchvasse for the 2019 halloween event. but now, almost all their soundtrack is revolved around this one guy.
Great video mate!
Can’t wait to play squad fallen only for 1 player to leave for no goddamn reason🔥🔥🔥
Most of the time they were doing a quest and people didn't pick the map they wanted (or just disconnected)
Fr I hate that
When im in a (leaving before the game starts) competition and my opponent is a tds random queuer:
Imo, Tower Galactica is THE BEST tower defense game on Roblox
Tower Galactica is a story-mode based bullet hell TD game (yes, bullet hell) with 3 Galaxies (or worlds/stages) with each having atleast 5 planets (or levels)
The first galaxy is honestly really boring, being somewhat a generic TD game
But when you reach level 2-3a (Planet Duhovnic), OH MY GOD you're gonna be questioning if this is even a TD game
I consider this game the hardest TD game out there simply because of the stupid ass mechanics seen in Duhovnic and the entirety of the 3rd galaxy
for more info, you can watch Nol's video on why he loves this game
get this man a True
tower galactia blows TDS out of the park its a million times better
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Yeah, tower galactica is awesome! Really fun game that sadly got discontinued. Eclipse giving it a try would be interesting to see.
tds has been so unpolished lately
i also cant stand how so many skins dont work and dont function
At least we got skins.
They have been fixing skins as of recent and dude if your going to call something unpolished you do have to explain why it is otherwise your take is just useless.
I will say alot of the 2023-2024 halloween updates have been crappy, but not unpolished, the skins thing is a issue though.
@@RuvinPlaysOfficial buddy, almost all my skins dont fucking work
TOXIC GUNNER WITH THE SKIN AINT WORKINNNNG
I haven’t played in a while so it’s tragic to hear that on an unrelated note nice pfp 😇
congrats on completing the TDS community summoning ritual!
now... idk tbh you just summoned the entire community
6:08 must be molten mode, it doesn't have a bgm yet, only for the boss
I think it would be interesting if you try Tower Defense X too! It includes 2 set of upgrades for towers and it's (shocking) not a gambling simulator that requires you to gamble to progress!
Tds doesn’t require any gambling to progress ether
@@danhamersley6745golden towers:
@@danhamersley6745 I never mentioned that TDS requires you to gamble to progress? Both TDX and TDS are great games because of this.