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It amazes me how many people do not have any kind of back up system in the event of a power outage. The first thing I did after I bought my home was install a battery back up . I went with the PHCC/Glentronics Combination Pump system. Swapped it out after 6 years. Both pumps ran fine, I just did it out of precaution. Over the summer I had a Generac 16kw whole house generator installed. I plan on swapping out my combo system and go with 2 main pumps, since I now have the generator. I also plan on installing a battery powered DC to AC converter if for some reason the generator fails. Its all about Redundancy.
I liked that Steve used some "Fritz" on the male connector. Won't have to pull out the big boy pipe wrench on the next changeout. I would of used tie wraps instead of the tape.
Nice job Steve. Thanks for all of the hard work you put into filming and editing the videos. It really goes a long way in educating the new-comers in the trade. I’ve learned a lot from you over the past 5 years. You have gotten me out of a jam several times. Give it the old gundy!
Don Burton battery back up systems r junk and aren't worth the money . I always tell cust that save the money and buy a cheap gas generator instead of battery back up . They don't pump no more than 8 gallons per min and only last 3 hours .
Claudius if u r asking me I say better than battery but still only getting 8 gallon per min when your normal pump is 30-40 gpm and the floats on the water driven ones r huge so u must have a very wide pit.
JH HVAC & Plumbing- Any opinions on the Ion Sump Pro? I put one in my house two years ago which is attached to two pumps that alternate every other pump (one sump pit both pumps on the same level). They are battery back up but use two batteries (100 amp hour each) but connected in series to increase the voltage. Both pumps are AC pumps. Works awesome...but then again I have not lost power since I put them in. Not sure they would last that long in a total power out condition with downpour... I looked into the water-powered pumps... just don't seem that feasible to me.
Cant see the point of powering them off the same receptacle. The combined starting current could be enough to trip the breaker and shut down both. Separate circuits would be better.
After I watched this because my pump wouldn't stop running, I found my outside line was frozen preventing water from pumping out! After disconnecting the outlet hose I knocked out the ice from the outlet connection and the water came flowing out. Pump shut off and I was good to go. If freezing weather make sure your lines are free of ice before buying a new pump and replacing it. Fortunately I didn't have to go buy or replace anything.
Is this the basement that flooded a while ago? I ask as I see the same crappy 15amp power strip sitting near the outlets! Her claiming the water went over the top must have been from them using that crappy power strip... either that or maybe check valve is bad/stuck open for the bottom pump.
@@rosemeccia9411 The switch burned out like a year later. I wound up replacing the pump with a Rigid brand pump, and had been good so far. I heard that Liberty pumps are good, but I would have to order that online. Can't find that brand available by me.
My backup sump pump works with city water pressure. Don't have to worry about power outage or dead battery. But I guess if you're on a well system there's no water during a power outage. In that case a battery makes sense.
Our sump pump has been turning on every 8 minutes. Literally, like clockwork, it comes on and drains out completely, then slowly refills for 8 minutes. On a possibly related note, our neighbor has their water pipe going through our basement and I can hear water flowing through it all the time, constantly. Do you think they could have a break in the line which is causing our sump to fill up?
This is the problem I have it won't turn off and there's a whole bunch of soap in the septic tank and the soap is coming out of this pipe thingy I don't know what it means please help
What is the life span on these Zoeller pumps? Everyone says they're the best pumps, yet it always seems like you're replacing them because the switches go bad.
The first pump I put in was zoeller after a number of years the switch or float went bad then I purchased a external float that lasted another number of years. I just put in another zoeller pump only 4 years ago again the float went bad. This pump did not last as long. I do have a lot of lime build up.
New sub..we haven't had water in the basement sense 1962 ,, but last year we had 10" of rain in a few days and water started seeping in and began empting into the main drain. problem we had rugs and accumulation of stuff for yrs. Now this yr. The same thing happened. 8" all at once . I'm going to have a company put. In a sump pit & pump Water comes in most on one part of the finished basement . They checked and think it will take care of most of the problem . it's a small house 40 by. 26 ft.Basmt. what do u think ? Cost $ 2,800.00 . Not going the French drain , hard to do in a finished basement.
why not just change out the switch? Those zoellers are EXPENSIVE and built to last. The switch probably failed because it was submerged and the seal failed. Often times a flapper valve breaks off and blocks outflow or there is some other blockage. I have a generator on the driveway set up to run the sump and refrig.
during the summer months the pit will dry up ,these pumps have to be covered with water to run water has to raise and life float up to turn the pump on .
Chuck Scott I was going to ask the same question. It's a big debate here in upstate NY for the springtime if power is lost in a storm with rain all the snow melting creating lots of water...
steven lavimoniere after watching a couple of your videos I believe you will give an honest answer. I was just looking into a battery back up, a guy at the store told me it would last for 10 years??? Basically because it’s on a trickle charge. Another guy told me two years??? In your opinion how long will the battery last on a trickle charge? Just trying to figure out if it’s worth it. Thank you!
Sunday morning, I'm the only one up. Coffee and Lavimoniere video. Good start to my day. Thanks Steven!
It amazes me how many people do not have any kind of back up system in the event of a power outage. The first thing I did after I bought my home was install a battery back up . I went with the PHCC/Glentronics Combination Pump system. Swapped it out after 6 years. Both pumps ran fine, I just did it out of precaution. Over the summer I had a Generac 16kw whole house generator installed. I plan on swapping out my combo system and go with 2 main pumps, since I now have the generator. I also plan on installing a battery powered DC to AC converter if for some reason the generator fails. Its all about Redundancy.
I liked that Steve used some "Fritz" on the male connector. Won't have to pull out the big boy pipe wrench on the next changeout.
I would of used tie wraps instead of the tape.
My dad is a plumber (McManus plumbing & heating LLC.). He has seen Zoeller switch issues too lately. Must be making them cheaper. Figures!
Nice job Steve. Thanks for all of the hard work you put into filming and editing the videos. It really goes a long way in educating the new-comers in the trade. I’ve learned a lot from you over the past 5 years. You have gotten me out of a jam several times. Give it the old gundy!
I loved that you brought your supervisor along for the job, even though he/she probably supervised from the vehicle.
When I seen the power strip, I remembered the previous video when you were there earlier...LOL. Nice work Steve.She's in need of a battery backup.
Don Burton battery back up systems r junk and aren't worth the money . I always tell cust that save the money and buy a cheap gas generator instead of battery back up . They don't pump no more than 8 gallons per min and only last 3 hours .
Claudius if u r asking me I say better than battery but still only getting 8 gallon per min when your normal pump is 30-40 gpm and the floats on the water driven ones r huge so u must have a very wide pit.
JH HVAC & Plumbing- Any opinions on the Ion Sump Pro? I put one in my house two years ago which is attached to two pumps that alternate every other pump (one sump pit both pumps on the same level). They are battery back up but use two batteries (100 amp hour each) but connected in series to increase the voltage. Both pumps are AC pumps. Works awesome...but then again I have not lost power since I put them in. Not sure they would last that long in a total power out condition with downpour... I looked into the water-powered pumps... just don't seem that feasible to me.
Cant see the point of powering them off the same receptacle. The combined starting current could be enough to trip the breaker and shut down both. Separate circuits would be better.
the higher pump is meant to start up IF the lower pump is not working and therefor drawing zero current.
Looks like they are at different heights. So they wouldn't start at the same time.
*Steve pulls out the bigger wrench* I wasn't asking you to come off!!
After I watched this because my pump wouldn't stop running, I found my outside line was frozen preventing water from pumping out! After disconnecting the outlet hose I knocked out the ice from the outlet connection and the water came flowing out. Pump shut off and I was good to go. If freezing weather make sure your lines are free of ice before buying a new pump and replacing it. Fortunately I didn't have to go buy or replace anything.
My pump turns on every half hour now even when it's not raining or snowing. Why does that happen?
Steve , like your idea of changing out sump pump every 3-4 yrs , this way you dont have to worry, except with power failure.
nice job sir, dont you just love those aluminum pipe wrenches
Is this the basement that flooded a while ago? I ask as I see the same crappy 15amp power strip sitting near the outlets! Her claiming the water went over the top must have been from them using that crappy power strip... either that or maybe check valve is bad/stuck open for the bottom pump.
On the pumps that don't shut off, couldn't you put a piggyback float switch on it then sell the pump for $50?
I did and it lasted a long time
Steve and a new pump to the rescue!
Did you change the little white plastic thingie? You didn't show it exactly.
Any merit in heating the pump outlet? Might make it easier to release the outlet pipe.
I had to replace the switch in one of my Zoeller sump pumps last year, where the pump was good just the switch was bad.
How long did your zoeller last. Mine is fairly new and the switch is bad. Where do I go to learn how to put a new switch in?
Thank you
@@rosemeccia9411 The switch burned out like a year later. I wound up replacing the pump with a Rigid brand pump, and had been good so far. I heard that Liberty pumps are good, but I would have to order that online. Can't find that brand available by me.
Good it was only a sump pump, not the shitpump one! :D
My backup sump pump works with city water pressure. Don't have to worry about power outage or dead battery. But I guess if you're on a well system there's no water during a power outage. In that case a battery makes sense.
Water operated pumps are illegal in many jurisdictions
did you tell her she better go catch it?
Where did the saying 'give it the ol gundy' come from?
been saying that for many years .heard it back in the day as a small kid .not sure were it cam from
Our sump pump has been turning on every 8 minutes. Literally, like clockwork, it comes on and drains out completely, then slowly refills for 8 minutes. On a possibly related note, our neighbor has their water pipe going through our basement and I can hear water flowing through it all the time, constantly. Do you think they could have a break in the line which is causing our sump to fill up?
I know this is old and may not still apply but did you ask them if they had a huge water bill, if is a well, their power bill would be higher.
This is the problem I have it won't turn off and there's a whole bunch of soap in the septic tank and the soap is coming out of this pipe thingy I don't know what it means please help
Why don’t you use liberty pumps and stop using the junk your replacing
What is the life span on these Zoeller pumps? Everyone says they're the best pumps, yet it always seems like you're replacing them because the switches go bad.
Nevermind, heard him say 3-4 years.
The first pump I put in was zoeller after a number of years the switch or float went bad then I purchased a external float that lasted another number of years. I just put in another zoeller pump only 4 years ago again the float went bad. This pump did not last as long. I do have a lot of lime build up.
New sub..we haven't had water in the basement sense 1962 ,, but last year we had 10" of rain in a few days and water started seeping in and began empting into the main drain. problem we had rugs and accumulation of stuff for yrs. Now this yr. The same thing happened. 8" all at once . I'm going to have a company put. In a sump pit & pump
Water comes in most on one part of the finished basement . They checked and think it will take care of most of the problem . it's a small house 40 by. 26 ft.Basmt. what do u think ? Cost $ 2,800.00 . Not going the French drain , hard to do in a finished basement.
why not just change out the switch? Those zoellers are EXPENSIVE and built to last. The switch probably failed because it was submerged and the seal failed. Often times a flapper valve breaks off and blocks outflow or there is some other blockage. I have a generator on the driveway set up to run the sump and refrig.
Can two m267 Zoeller pumps fit into a 18x30 basin?
Had to get out the "Gundy" pipe wrench.
looks like they used locktite on that pvc
Looked like her top outlet might not work cuz you switched plugs and the pump worked
Best pumps out there, nice work Steve
Can there ever be water in the pit or does it have to be dry
during the summer months the pit will dry up ,these pumps have to be covered with water to run water has to raise and life float up to turn the pump on .
Steve, do you recommend that sump pits be covered?
if the cellar is dry i do not this place old stone foundations water leaking in every were ,
What is that pumpuse for
Hi Steven. What are your thoughts about battery backup pumps? Pro/con
Chuck Scott I was going to ask the same question. It's a big debate here in upstate NY for the springtime if power is lost in a storm with rain all the snow melting creating lots of water...
i have mixed felling on them .the main problem is the battery is only good for so long .you are better off with a generator ,if power goes out .
steven lavimoniere after watching a couple of your videos I believe you will give an honest answer. I was just looking into a battery back up, a guy at the store told me it would last for 10 years??? Basically because it’s on a trickle charge. Another guy told me two years??? In your opinion how long will the battery last on a trickle charge? Just trying to figure out if it’s worth it. Thank you!
what brand pump? i like that 2 pump system.
Zoeller M53
That actually looked like a Zoeller M57. M53 has a plastic base.
No weep hole?
Was that the lady who was using powerbars for her pumps
Power strip, yes. You could see it still sitting there by the outlet.
Was that a zoeller Steve that all I use
yes it was
why do you put pipe dope on the male
so it does not bind up going it .
Pretty sure this is the other video before it was flooded and it was hooked up to the power strip
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