@@James-il3tq Isn’t eagerness for a fast charge really rooted in a century of quickly filling a gas tank, rather than generalization about generations?
But whatever EV you buy, as battery wears down from use, it's going below 300 miles range, and then 200 miles of range and then 100 miles of maximum range. Meanwhile, my old ICE econobox still has the same range at full tank fillup that it did nearly 30 years ago.
@@springer-qb4dv If properly cooled/heated/charged (which most EVs regulate by default), batteries will keep like 80%+ of their range beyond 200,000 miles. Which means they'll last longer than almost all ICE drivetrains, while requiring less maintenance .
Nice test Alex! I do standardized range tests of EV´s on my channel as well, and have found out that both the EPA and WLTP in some cars are very optimistic, and in others very underrated!
From Shreveport to Dallas is 185 miles, plus, on I 20. A Tesla s cannot make the trip, cruising 80-85, without a stop half way, in Lindale, Tex. This comes from meeting Tesla s owners at Cars and Coffee. One said, if he was to drive 45-50, he might make it to Dallas.
I took my Volvo XC60 to service here in Tucson and asked about the Polestar 2 and all but one salesperson knew of it. Service there isn’t very good, either , and we now take our car to our mechanic. I hope Volvo/Polestar do something about establishing a knowledgeable and competent dealer network. My wife has said she won’t buy another Volvo due to their service. Anyhow, great review and the car looks like a good product.
I would definitely pick this over the Model 3. It may not have all the crazy tech Tesla gives their cars but it's more practical and has plenty of range for the average driver.
Tesla' tech is nothing new, the motor is basically a copy of the Prius. The screen is basically a built in computer. You can do that for any car by have a invertor. Batteries have not really increased in density, All tesla did was increase the size of each cell so obviously you have an increase energy but not the actual density which determines your over energy stored. Polestar is certainly better in terms of quality
Alex, pls focus on your own cool tests for EV’s - testing them just like you do ICE vehicles - brilliant in its own right - won’t fo in the long run. This vid is one example of such test - happy to see you getting the EV butterflies at charging stations (it works!)
@@Poorgeniu5 i just test out the model 3 and the big screen definitely is confusing to operate while driving. Im 27 and use smart my whole life. So i guess it is particular confusing for elderly people
@@Alex-is-a-daddy yeah, personally I grew up with buttons and I find it easier when there’s a physical button readily available. I don’t wanna have to go through submenus just to adjust my steering wheel.
Did you see the driver anxiety in Alex's face, well this is most perhaps 90% of Americans that just can not take long trips without fear of running out of power. So, the bottom line is plug-in hybrids will be the most viable option for Americans who travel longer that say 250 to 450 miles+. Nice to see Alex in a different format, but Alex has help looking for charging and many charging station, (not enough) just have people waiting in line for many hours, and it took Alex 2 1/2 hours to get enough for just another few hundred miles. I will buy a plug-in hybrid that gets 60+ on charge and 400 to 600 miles on easy to find gas. However, that total can take me almost to Branson from, Alabama without looking for a level 2 charging stations and/or super charger that is not tied up with a waiting line of cars. Had a friend with a Porsche Taycan cost, (don't ask), but a Plug-in RAV4 would have made it from Birmingham to Atlanta, no problem, but he ran out of EV and went to two charging stations, one did not work and the other full of cars waiting, so he went to the Porsche dealer and they charged him for FREE! In five years, things may be different, but for my many long trips away from interstates too, I want something that can still be friendly on the environment, but also not strand you on the side of the road, OFTEN! And just think, you can drive it 80% of the time on just EV, and plug in every night, as most Americans and EU countries drive just under 40 miles per day to and from work, etc. Just be sure to take it out every couple of months and drive until the gas tank goes down to a quarter tank, so it keeps your gas from getting old and thus loosing MPG, etc.
Most EVs during longer trips aren't going to be purposely run down that low before charging again, so less anxiety and a little more inconvenience of charging more often and realistically at slower speeds...
@@OlJackBurton agreed. You don't drive down to 5% and then start looking for a charger. you plan your route to stay within 20-80% and if a good charger is around 40% you take advantage. It's just a different mindset.
14:50 "No, the station is occupied" - And this is the biggest bummer for me with electrics. Even if you scope your recharge stations, if one happens to be occupied, you may be royally screwed. I would love to go electric, but until the infrastructure and the speed of charging are solved, it is not feasible for normal overall use as your primary car.
@@gteixeira It would certainly make it more bearable, but the total cumulative time it would take to recharge on a longer trip would make you think of horse and buggy.
@@mountainhobo Not really because in the event of one being full we can just go two blocks ahead to get one free, that would add only 10 minutes, and we usually can see that beforehand on the app.
@@mountainhobo Yes, you can plan by stopping only are the ones that have spaces, if you get enough to choose. The main issue here is exactly that there are too few stations around, not that there aren't enough plugs on each of them.
Honestly I think that if we could rollout charging info structures quicker & adapt / retrofit some areas 200-300mile range SHOULD BE the perfect range! 400/500+ range is a bit much to ask for since it will cost YOU the buyer, once the expense is shared among everyone it will quite more accessible & cost efficient. Great talk about EV in this video, really gets to some struggles we know exsist.
I think many misunderstand how to charge. First charge at home, every night; every day begins with a full " tank of gas". If you have to charge away from home, time from 0 to full charge is irrelevant. When charging underway, add only as much as you need to get back home ( might often be only 15 minutes, not 45 minutes or 245 minutes, of charge time).
Intestate charging stations (Tesla, Electrify America, etc.) are 100 miles apart. EVs charge 0-80% in about the same time as 80-100% so you are better off driving shorter stints with top-offs anyway. Engineering Explained just did a video on this.
Is this with the newest software that allow more of the battery to be used? Should add up to 50km range. (The bottom range after the car shows 0km was/is about 70km before the update!) After the update it should be about 20km.
The hodgepodge of chargers that are placed in parking lots and malls is fine for in city driving, but there is still a need for a robust highway DC charging network. One that’s also as reliable as Tesla’s.
I'm a little confused on your comments about regenerative braking. If you lift off the throttle of a Tesla, it sends the maximum amount of energy the battery can accept back into it. If you still won't slow down quickly enough, you then can apply friction brakes. Maybe I'm wrong but what other EV's can actually send more energy into their batteries during regen?
At least in my BMW i3 when you lift off the throttle you get maximum regeneration and when you step onto the brake pedal you then apply friction braking in addition to the regenerative braking that is already occurring.
@@montage231 Yep, thats the same behavior as the Tesla. Some EV's are taking the approach of "blended braking" where when you let off the throttle, you coast. When you touch the brake pedal, it starts with regen and then combines both regen and friction brakes as your pedal force dictates.
Blended braking is hard to do well. Tesla didn’t want to bother or couldn’t make it work right and devised one-pedal driving with friction brakes as a workaround. Then spun it to pretend it was this amazing future tech.
Teslas can accept up to 255kw into the battery (supercharging),. but without blended braking that's not possible because it would be too harsh. The Polestar 2, XC40, eTron, Taycan and Mach E all regen more kW into the battery with blended braking.
Alex, sounds like the car can easily do 350 miles on a road trip with only a single 30 minutes stop for charging. Nice work putting this video together!
Alex - what's the car average kwh per 100 miles? I think that is a better way to measure efficiency as opposed to the convoluted MPGe from EPA. BTW, Alex you the best auto journalist on UA-cam.
I want to like the Polestar. I’m in the EV market. I’m on the fence for a model Y. I’m waiting to see if Ford can deliver. However, Tesla’s true adv is the charging network.
Non-Tesla charging network is fine. You are not actually going to need it unless you drive cross-country or you drive for Uber or have no place to charge at home. Tesla doesn’t tell you that DC fast charging is bad for the battery long-term and it’s expensive, much more than premium gas per mile of range. Tesla quality is garbage and they cannot compete on the price with federal tax credits. I have an E-tron which is amazingly luxurious and with tax credits costs the same as Model Y. EPA range is not as impressive as Tesla but again, do you need 300 miles on a charge? I get Tesla-like 3.3 kWh/mi on the highway at 80 mph. Interstate charging stations are 100 mi apart. Get the Polestar, look at the E-tron, don’t be a stan, get a nice car instead.
My question is, how much did the charge cost? I would think the only true way to measure energy cost is how much does it cost to drive an ev vs a gasoline engine or a diesel for that matter. The bottom line is , energy consumption is energy consumption.
What about living in a colder area. If the temperature falls below freezing and stays there for weeks how will all these EV's do? Will they lose a charge parked overnight without charging when the temperature is 10 degrees below freezing? If I drive a 150 miles and visit my daughter in the Berkshires, stay overnight and head home. The answers to these questions are why I have a reluctance to embrace EV cars.
In general, the cars don't discharge much when not plugged in for short periods, but over days or weeks, you might indeed lose multiple miles of range (this is called phantom drain, and it can happen due to overnight update checks or checking your phone app to wake the car up) - and this mostly isn't Impacted by the temperature outside. Now, you will indeed notice less range when actually driving it in colder temperatures since the optimal operating temperature for discharging the battery is 40-55 Celsius.
@@judgesh My experience is that batteries lose power very quickly in cold weather. I love Alex's reviews but he's in California and the weather really isn't that extreme.
You don’t lose range being parked overnight. You do lose range when you start driving and the car and the battery have to warm up. If you can plug into a 120v outlet overnight and warm up the car while it’s plugged in, you can mitigate most of the range loss. 150 mi in cold weather in EV with 220 mi EPA range is doable.
@@chrismv102 Depends on what the car's doing. it indeed doesn't do well in the cold, but batteries don't just lose large portions of their charge overnight due to their surrounding temperature.
They made an update recently that increased the charging to 155kW. Problem is that it still dont manage that, and when it passes 150kW it is for a second or two. And that's how you get the 150kW charging thing... They should just make it an universal Charging average standard on EVs, not what it peaks for a short while. Also its thirsty, the update made it somewhat better but marginal.
Very few people only own an EV, and those people live almost exclusively in major cities (stats from actual dealers). Most of the range anxiety concern comes from people not buying EV's anyways. Why would you need 500 miles to a charge since you charge it overnight. The average miles driven per day is 29.5, so say we even triple that to 90.5, and even in the worst of conditions you lose 40% range to say cold weather. You'd still only need a 150 mile range EV and a 200 mile range EV would give you some comfort, the rest is just auto makers overbuilding stuff so people "consider" actually buying the cars. My 2008 jeep grand cherokee has an average 240 miles of range with a 21 gallon fuel tank and roughly 12mpg, and I have never had range anxiety. On a full tank (like you'd have leaving your house with a fully charged ev), that 240 miles is roughly 4 hours of driving on a highway, which isn't a bad time for a break anyways. Now I know there are some very specific use cases where the extra range is needed, but most are just stupid people. Edit: the nav being pessimistic vs optimistic is a very good thing because making it to a charger on 3% is better than not making it to a charger
The lack of available public (free or otherwise) charging stations reminds me of my parents driving around in the early 1970s looking for a gas station that was not out of gas. At the price point of these EVs, it's simply not worth the inconvenience or anxiety.
Just so everyone knows I have a Tesla. It'll say "295 miles of range". But When you drive 20 or so miles the range has gone down 30 miles in that timeframe. So take these "range" estimates with some grain of salt at least with Tesla anyway. You'll get used to what your vehicle can do and my Tesla is awesome! But I still say if you don't have a reliable way to charge it up fast basically every night (which will cost you about $1500 in equipment and hiring an electrician) I don't think it'll be useful for a large majority of people out there.
Why are you upset about EVgo charge speed? You used the ONLY (I believe) 175 kW station in Northern California. 99% of EVgo stations are 50 kW, so you got pretty lucky! EA is another story, but VW had no choice and also wants to enable its own cars to fast charge.
Alex On Auto and TFL folks should sit down to have a conference call with the youtube channel Bjorn Nyland. He has all the data about EVs in a Norwegian settings where there are better EV infrastructure and acceptance.
The problem is that's Norway and the driving situation there is not really the same he does a high speed mileage test but his high speed mileage test is about average speed in the US or less even. Temperature in climate are different as is the terrain and driving style. but he certainly does have a wealth of information and comparing one vehicle against another certainly would still be accurate. But people in the US probably want to know what the car is capable of in the US not what it would do if they lived in Norway. And actually there's a huge amount of charging infrastructure in the US also, it seems like California has a lack of DC fast chargers, or if they're older and 50kw but Electrify America has a rather extensive network on the interstates and they are all 150 and 350 KW stations.
I’m convinced that no manufacturer is taking EV’s seriously there is no reason to release a car with drastically lower range than Tesla in 2021 and call it a competitor.
there are about 100 posts the different versions that you can google, about its real world range.... spoiler it's about 50% higher than its EPA range...
@@nc3826 yep, I see 260 Mi range driving 70-80. Charging also amazing when chargers work. I charged from 4% to 61% in less than 13min received 52kWh. That's 246kW avg, peaked at 263kW. Car preheated battery to 89F at charger arrival.
Put a couple of passengers, some cargo and throw in the cold weather up here, this thing is not going to do well. A long range Tesla seems to be the only option.
Alex, can you provide us your thoughts on the ride and handling difference between this Polestar and the one you drove with the performance pack? Not much out there regarding that. Thanks.
You might as well compare a Yaris to a Porsche 911. The equivalent would be a Volvo S60 inscription for around $48k to $62k($54k after incentives) Polestar 2. chooseev.com/savings-calculator/ says about 5-7 years depending of how much you drive.
@@imperium2000 "You might as well compare a Yaris to a Porsche 911" -- You think the gap between an Accord and the Polestar is the same as between Yaris and a Porsche 911? You are delusional. Volvo may be a _little_ nicer inside than an Accord, but reliability wise Accord wins without a fight. Your hyperbole makes zero sense.
@@mountainhobo Thanks for completely missing the point. An Accord is not even in the same market segment as a Polestar/S60. People who want a 'luxury car' do not really cross shop the two. To compare the two is disingenuous. Try comparing an Acura RLX(which starts at $54k) to the Polestar 2.
@@imperium2000 "Thanks for completely missing the point." - Oh, how pompous and patronizing. Let's see about missing the point. "People who want a 'luxury car' do not really cross shop the two" - Polestar may be a luxury car in your mind because you cannot afford a luxury car. That does not make it a luxury car. It may be "premium", but that's about as far as it would go. "Try comparing an Acura RLX(which starts at $54k) to the Polestar 2" - Then you clearly missed the point made by Trevor Sutherland. Please reread his original post before responding again. Slowly.
#1 There no savings if you have to shop for 2 hours while it charging #2 After road rage this will be the rage to get the first a charging station . #3 Beautiful appearance this Polestar that looklike the second generation of Scion Tc but in 4 doors version .
@@Eric_the_Hiking You got me on that one.... But there is more of Geely's chop suey in it's platform, than Volvo's meatballs... Shame Geely's Lynk & Co models are not exported.......
The Model Y long rage is closer in price and battery size and that is rated for 329 so probably 305 real world. Gotta compare similar battery size for efficiency
I disagree. Model Y is much more efficient and has much higher range than the Polestar. I have not had the opportunity to do much driving in the 60 degree temps that Alex enjoyed, but my 237 mile drive from Queensbury, NY to Danvers, MA in 30 degree temps proved to me that I had chosen the right vehicle for my needs. Here is the TeslaFi data from that trip in January. My Model Y used 273Wh/mile for a total of 65kWh on a 72kwH battery. Average speed was 57mph (mostly hwy, and secondary roads). Total elevation change was only -205 feet. Polestar can't touch that. I don't know what Alex did wrong when he tested the Model Y....haven't seen that video. Maybe he didn't precondition the cabin prior to his test? Maybe I had a big tail wind? I can't wait for spring to see how my range improves when the life support systems aren't working as hard. Tesla Do'd Y Long Range 237.44 4 Hours 12 Minutes 82.6% 273 64.89 57 -205.9 ft 29.70 F 01/18/2021
OK. So I watched the Model Y video. He did not precondition the Y prior to departure (which is what anyone who plans to get all the distance they can from 1 battery charge would do before driving) His Model Y video confirms that the Tesla is much more efficient. He ran the Model Y in 93 degree temps where the car must cool the cabin, batteries and motors. Basically, the Polestar range test was conducted under much more ideal conditions. I expect to cover 270 miles with ease when my temps finally make it up into the 60's.
People want you to go farther to see if you actually get stranded with zero percent charge left. So you are now slowing down to 68 mph in school zones, but are you still going triple digits on the freeway?
So you had 1 option, with 1 charger, and it only provided 100kw. I won't take this car anywhere but commuting. What a shame. I look forward to the day where there would be more EVs that you can take on trips. For now, Tesla is the only real option. I don't see that changing until 2025 - especially with more cars competing for these non-Tesla fast DC chargers. Super disappointing. At the end of the day, range is not really an issue if you have where to charge. Doesn't matter if EPA is optimistic or pessimistic if you can easily find a spot to charge.
Regarding the official range comments at 4:00 I wish the authorities would give a highway and city rating like we get for ICE cars. That would be a lot more useful to get a sense of what range to expect.
@@lucisleesion8824 So your saying Geely, is the Chinese stepchild who got it wrong??? What do you think of Lynk & Co? And would love to see BYD license out its LFP blade battery technology in markets where its not selling its own cars, since they are cheaper and it's easier to recycle... Also good luck ignoring all the CCP BOT for brains trolls....
The issue with your tests are: When you turn off lift-off braking, you are gimping all EVs. Then for EVs with blended braking, you are specifically gimping the Teslas. In your tests since you drive a good amount of city driving, you are extraly gimping Teslas because when you use the brakes in some other EVs they get to recharge, while Teslas won't have a chance to recharge when you brake.
Nope. In highway range tests you're not using much throttle lift-off regen to begin with and since Tesla doesn't have a "off" mode, only a low mode, the majority of braking is still regen. And lastly, regen doesn't get you much of a range bump in these tests. With regen on max the Model 3 I owned had zero change in the range score on the same trip. We're just not talking about enough energy to make a difference.
Coasting is more efficient than regen. Coasting costs zero energy. Regen wastes some as heat. One-pedal driving is less efficient than coasting with brake pedal-activated regen. Tesla is wrong, they only did one-pedal driving because they couldn’t make blended braking work right.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Right. I like that my e-Golf has 5 regen modes (blended braking, too) so I choose max regen for local driving and mild regen for highway driving. Multi regen modes should be standard.
I agree. Seems like our culture is pushing EVs faster than charging stations. When charging stations are as ample and as fast as gas stations I will hold off buying an EV .
good luck learning how to plug things in at home.... "On average, Americans drive 29.2 miles per day" newsroom.aaa.com/2015/04/new-study-reveals-much-motorists-drive/
AB: You MISSED THE POINT that your, your own problem. I already pointed out that 99% of the energy comes from plugging at home.. Good luck learning that trick someday, while your stuck in Mesozoic era (ie the oil formation period).... Before you just die off with the rest of the dinosaurs.... SMH... FWIW it's just facts, your taking it personally like baby would... guess your regressing :)
These mega giant auto industries need to stop with these mediocre 200 suck miles. Before the bullies crucified me for sharing my feelings about short range capacity, consumer have a much better understanding of their own EV needs and even if you live in a mega city or what have you, people are demanding long range capacity vehicles and not one grocery stop EV. Please don’t hurt me by bullying me now😭🥺 is just sharing ideas.✌️
All depends on use case. Plenty of people do use these cars and indeed shorter range EVs as commuting cars. They also probably have a second family car for longer journeys. In countries with decent fast chargers, people might elect to live with it (situation is going to improve anyway) for the occasional road trips. I only have one car and hence like you, 200m range won't do me although I only occasionally do longer journeys. The drawbacks and higher initial costs isn't worth it just yet. Things will change a lot in 5 years or so is my bet and in 10 years, where I am , it will be a no brainer to get an EV
@@TsLeng ......I hear you and I totally understand your view as well and makes sense too. I live in a big city but things generally speaking are very far, plus traffic increases the need of consume more gas ⛽️ or in this case electricity ⚡️. It takes me about 60 miles round trip to work, and doesn’t include the most of the week’s days other errands, so like for me I would eat up those 200miles in a 1 1/2....lol But like you said in a way, every scenario is different and with the hope for more standard EV charging station, things can probably feel more tolerable when having a short range EV. Thanks for sharing 👍
@@MaxKito2 You use LESS battery in traffic, regen is your friend. And after you use those 200 mi, you plugin at home and start the next day with another 220 mi. But if you can't plugin at home, buy a hybrid.
@@rcole1175 .....Thanks for your approach, but I don’t have a home....and where I live not even possible to charge, which as you certainly know is very much the case or similar for a lot of other people interested on an EV. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
@@MaxKito2 yep, if you don't have home charging, youll lose out on a lot of the EV benefits. In this case, I'd say you lose the most important benefit which is cheap overnight charging.
230 miles is not enough. 400 should be the bare minimum. At least for those of us in the norhtwest. (It's usually at least 300 miles between big cities out here)...
Because my right foot is capable of moving from side to side ;-) Kidding aside, one pedal driving isn't as smooth as two pedals and regen braking and since there is no "coast" mode, it is also less efficient.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide True, but for stop and go (ie city driving) its a perfect fit that on average will increase not decrease efficiency.... So it does not makes sense to make a blanket statement about it...
@@bikingmoments BTW the fact that number seems to look similar to an emoji for some chinese.... was exactly what I referring to in my original comment, so yea...
Tesla is very efficient, but the over 300 mile claim is very hard to achieve in real world driving. A model 3 LR will do about 260~280 on average, while the SR+ model does 192 miles on average Also the most efficient car was a korean ev from what I've seen on the carwow EV test. At least from some youtube videos where they compare efficiency (tesla bjorn and carwow)
@@redReiRei Model 3 is the most efficient of all, Korean cars included. Sure it won't go as far as advertised but it is very efficient and the rapid charging and omnipresence of Tesla Superchargers is a perfect combination.
Tesla's mileage claims may be a little overblown, but without question they are in the real world much more efficient than any other comparable EV. There are other vehicles that are pretty close, but they don't have the AWD or performance.
Love your reaction when you see the other car pulling away! Authentic excitement!
Haha was cool to see Alex kinda out of "character" (let's say) when he found the available dc charger 😆
that was completely fake but ok lol
Who said driving EV’s is uneventful?
I've been waiting for this, I'm seriously considering one if these!!! Thanks so much Alexxxxxxx!!!
18:20: Results: 212 miles driven, with 10 miles remaining.
To think we started with "range anxiety" in the early days, now we also have "fast charger anxiety!"😁
We live in an instant gratification era, especially younger people.
@@James-il3tq Isn’t eagerness for a fast charge really rooted in a century of quickly filling a gas tank, rather than generalization about generations?
@@eds.4815 Please! Get out of here with your realistic and carefully considered view. Let's just blame the younger generation for everything.
@@Aaron-lc8nf I’ve learned that blaming older generations is both easier and usually correct.
Alex, "Going faster is going to require more energy." Words to drive by.
If they make a wagon version of this and can make it go 300+ miles at motorway speeds, I'd buy it INSTANTLY.
no one else would though....
But whatever EV you buy, as battery wears down from use, it's going below 300 miles range, and then 200 miles of range and then 100 miles of maximum range. Meanwhile, my old ICE econobox still has the same range at full tank fillup that it did nearly 30 years ago.
@@springer-qb4dv
If properly cooled/heated/charged (which most EVs regulate by default), batteries will keep like 80%+ of their range beyond 200,000 miles. Which means they'll last longer than almost all ICE drivetrains, while requiring less maintenance .
Why a wagon if it's a hatchback it will have about the same space plus it will look better.
PLEASE do more of these behind the scenes non-review videos! I really enjoy them
This was awesome! u answered and explained alot of questions i had. i hope to see more reviews on other electric vehicles. Good job and thanx!
Good video. I appreciate your ability to explain these complex cars in a way that’s easy to understand.
So actually similar to the Model Y LR AWD. Nice.
This was super entertaining and a joy to watch Alex! Thanks for the upload!
The 1% inaccuracies on the navigation battery GUESS-O-Meter is really good. It will probably be much less accurate in a cold climate
Nice test Alex! I do standardized range tests of EV´s on my channel as well, and have found out that both the EPA and WLTP in some cars are very optimistic, and in others very underrated!
From Shreveport to Dallas is 185 miles, plus, on I 20. A Tesla s cannot make the trip, cruising 80-85, without a stop half way, in Lindale, Tex.
This comes from meeting Tesla s owners at Cars and Coffee. One said, if he was to drive 45-50, he might make it to Dallas.
I took my Volvo XC60 to service here in Tucson and asked about the Polestar 2 and all but one salesperson knew of it. Service there isn’t very good, either , and we now take our car to our mechanic. I hope Volvo/Polestar do something about establishing a knowledgeable and competent dealer network. My wife has said she won’t buy another Volvo due to their service. Anyhow, great review and the car looks like a good product.
Sir Alex, that sounded like some post-range anxiety there (16:42)! :) As always, amazing information and videos! Thank you!
super excited to hear your thoughts about this.
I would definitely pick this over the Model 3. It may not have all the crazy tech Tesla gives their cars but it's more practical and has plenty of range for the average driver.
Tesla' tech is nothing new, the motor is basically a copy of the Prius. The screen is basically a built in computer. You can do that for any car by have a invertor. Batteries have not really increased in density, All tesla did was increase the size of each cell so obviously you have an increase energy but not the actual density which determines your over energy stored. Polestar is certainly better in terms of quality
Alex, pls focus on your own cool tests for EV’s - testing them just like you do ICE vehicles - brilliant in its own right - won’t fo in the long run. This vid is one example of such test - happy to see you getting the EV butterflies at charging stations (it works!)
Pretty comprehensive real world test. Still 220-230 is average and great for a commuter car. But would you choose this over a model 3? Why or why not?
Hit and mostly miss quality of teslas are a turn off. I would have a Mach e instead of this though.
That's a different video ;-)
I think its down to whether or not you want an traditional setup such as the instrument cluster in the Polestar.
@@Poorgeniu5 i just test out the model 3 and the big screen definitely is confusing to operate while driving. Im 27 and use smart my whole life. So i guess it is particular confusing for elderly people
@@Alex-is-a-daddy yeah, personally I grew up with buttons and I find it easier when there’s a physical button readily available. I don’t wanna have to go through submenus just to adjust my steering wheel.
Alex is the best at the "real world range" always come here to check him out
Did you see the driver anxiety in Alex's face, well this is most perhaps 90% of Americans that just can not take long trips without fear of running out of power. So, the bottom line is plug-in hybrids will be the most viable option for Americans who travel longer that say 250 to 450 miles+. Nice to see Alex in a different format, but Alex has help looking for charging and many charging station, (not enough) just have people waiting in line for many hours, and it took Alex 2 1/2 hours to get enough for just another few hundred miles. I will buy a plug-in hybrid that gets 60+ on charge and 400 to 600 miles on easy to find gas. However, that total can take me almost to Branson from, Alabama without looking for a level 2 charging stations and/or super charger that is not tied up with a waiting line of cars. Had a friend with a Porsche Taycan cost, (don't ask), but a Plug-in RAV4 would have made it from Birmingham to Atlanta, no problem, but he ran out of EV and went to two charging stations, one did not work and the other full of cars waiting, so he went to the Porsche dealer and they charged him for FREE! In five years, things may be different, but for my many long trips away from interstates too, I want something that can still be friendly on the environment, but also not strand you on the side of the road, OFTEN! And just think, you can drive it 80% of the time on just EV, and plug in every night, as most Americans and EU countries drive just under 40 miles per day to and from work, etc. Just be sure to take it out every couple of months and drive until the gas tank goes down to a quarter tank, so it keeps your gas from getting old and thus loosing MPG, etc.
Most EVs during longer trips aren't going to be purposely run down that low before charging again, so less anxiety and a little more inconvenience of charging more often and realistically at slower speeds...
@@OlJackBurton agreed. You don't drive down to 5% and then start looking for a charger. you plan your route to stay within 20-80% and if a good charger is around 40% you take advantage.
It's just a different mindset.
Excited to hear your thoughts on this one!
Thank you for making this range test drive. It definitely convinced me to go for a PS2. :)
A OTA update due in Feb to unlock more battery and increased charging speeds / curve.
I've got enough problems in my life... I don't need occupied charging station anxiety
14:50 "No, the station is occupied" - And this is the biggest bummer for me with electrics. Even if you scope your recharge stations, if one happens to be occupied, you may be royally screwed. I would love to go electric, but until the infrastructure and the speed of charging are solved, it is not feasible for normal overall use as your primary car.
No, the issue here is that there are too few sites. If we could choose between several sites, this issue wouldn't be that big.
@@gteixeira It would certainly make it more bearable, but the total cumulative time it would take to recharge on a longer trip would make you think of horse and buggy.
@@mountainhobo Not really because in the event of one being full we can just go two blocks ahead to get one free, that would add only 10 minutes, and we usually can see that beforehand on the app.
@@gteixeira I was referring to longer trips with multiple recharges.
@@mountainhobo Yes, you can plan by stopping only are the ones that have spaces, if you get enough to choose. The main issue here is exactly that there are too few stations around, not that there aren't enough plugs on each of them.
Honestly I think that if we could rollout charging info structures quicker & adapt / retrofit some areas 200-300mile range SHOULD BE the perfect range! 400/500+ range is a bit much to ask for since it will cost YOU the buyer, once the expense is shared among everyone it will quite more accessible & cost efficient. Great talk about EV in this video, really gets to some struggles we know exsist.
I think many misunderstand how to charge. First charge at home, every night; every day begins with a full " tank of gas". If you have to charge away from home, time from 0 to full charge is irrelevant. When charging underway, add only as much as you need to get back home ( might often be only 15 minutes, not 45 minutes or 245 minutes, of charge time).
Intestate charging stations (Tesla, Electrify America, etc.) are 100 miles apart. EVs charge 0-80% in about the same time as 80-100% so you are better off driving shorter stints with top-offs anyway. Engineering Explained just did a video on this.
Is this with the newest software that allow more of the battery to be used? Should add up to 50km range. (The bottom range after the car shows 0km was/is about 70km before the update!) After the update it should be about 20km.
The hodgepodge of chargers that are placed in parking lots and malls is fine for in city driving, but there is still a need for a robust highway DC charging network. One that’s also as reliable as Tesla’s.
It ultimately will take restaurants or convenience stores seeing the benefits of installing them.
Can't wait for your Mach E review!
I didn't expect the cabin to be so noisy in a modern Volvo.
I'm a little confused on your comments about regenerative braking. If you lift off the throttle of a Tesla, it sends the maximum amount of energy the battery can accept back into it. If you still won't slow down quickly enough, you then can apply friction brakes. Maybe I'm wrong but what other EV's can actually send more energy into their batteries during regen?
At least in my BMW i3 when you lift off the throttle you get maximum regeneration and when you step onto the brake pedal you then apply friction braking in addition to the regenerative braking that is already occurring.
@@montage231 Yep, thats the same behavior as the Tesla. Some EV's are taking the approach of "blended braking" where when you let off the throttle, you coast. When you touch the brake pedal, it starts with regen and then combines both regen and friction brakes as your pedal force dictates.
Blended braking is hard to do well. Tesla didn’t want to bother or couldn’t make it work right and devised one-pedal driving with friction brakes as a workaround. Then spun it to pretend it was this amazing future tech.
Teslas can accept up to 255kw into the battery (supercharging),. but without blended braking that's not possible because it would be too harsh. The Polestar 2, XC40, eTron, Taycan and Mach E all regen more kW into the battery with blended braking.
Here are some numbers. The Model 3 and Y max regen rate is about 77kw, the Taycan is 265, the Polestar 2 is 100kW, the Kia Niro is 87.
Hi Alex. I want to go electric. Do you think going from a 2019 Lexus Es350 luxury to a 2022 Polestar 2 a downgrade?
With so many range testing videos I begin to wonder how many cars on the road are actually going somewhere.
Hopefully there'll always be someone who's actually going to work somewhere 😂
@@everusualsuspect hopefully on his/her way to the EV factory.
Alex, sounds like the car can easily do 350 miles on a road trip with only a single 30 minutes stop for charging.
Nice work putting this video together!
Polestar 2 has a battery pack that can both be cooled down and heated when needed.
Not all EVs have such a function, which is a shame.
Alex - what's the car average kwh per 100 miles? I think that is a better way to measure efficiency as opposed to the convoluted MPGe from EPA. BTW, Alex you the best auto journalist on UA-cam.
Love this car
Which would you choose between the Ford Mustang Mach-E or the Polestar 2?
Polestar better handling and better materials safer rating.
I want to like the Polestar. I’m in the EV market. I’m on the fence for a model Y. I’m waiting to see if Ford can deliver. However, Tesla’s true adv is the charging network.
Non-Tesla charging network is fine. You are not actually going to need it unless you drive cross-country or you drive for Uber or have no place to charge at home. Tesla doesn’t tell you that DC fast charging is bad for the battery long-term and it’s expensive, much more than premium gas per mile of range. Tesla quality is garbage and they cannot compete on the price with federal tax credits. I have an E-tron which is amazingly luxurious and with tax credits costs the same as Model Y. EPA range is not as impressive as Tesla but again, do you need 300 miles on a charge? I get Tesla-like 3.3 kWh/mi on the highway at 80 mph. Interstate charging stations are 100 mi apart. Get the Polestar, look at the E-tron, don’t be a stan, get a nice car instead.
If you're in the US - probably Tesla. If in Europe, any EV will work
Fantastic, but what was your average speed for that test?
Almost thought an ad popped up when the music started @2:45
My question is, how much did the charge cost? I would think the only true way to measure energy cost is how much does it cost to drive an ev vs a gasoline engine or a diesel for that matter. The bottom line is , energy consumption is energy consumption.
What about living in a colder area. If the temperature falls below freezing and stays there for weeks how will all these EV's do? Will they lose a charge parked overnight without charging when the temperature is 10 degrees below freezing? If I drive a 150 miles and visit my daughter in the Berkshires, stay overnight and head home. The answers to these questions are why I have a reluctance to embrace EV cars.
In general, the cars don't discharge much when not plugged in for short periods, but over days or weeks, you might indeed lose multiple miles of range (this is called phantom drain, and it can happen due to overnight update checks or checking your phone app to wake the car up) - and this mostly isn't Impacted by the temperature outside. Now, you will indeed notice less range when actually driving it in colder temperatures since the optimal operating temperature for discharging the battery is 40-55 Celsius.
@@judgesh My experience is that batteries lose power very quickly in cold weather. I love Alex's reviews but he's in California and the weather really isn't that extreme.
You don’t lose range being parked overnight. You do lose range when you start driving and the car and the battery have to warm up. If you can plug into a 120v outlet overnight and warm up the car while it’s plugged in, you can mitigate most of the range loss. 150 mi in cold weather in EV with 220 mi EPA range is doable.
@@chrismv102 Depends on what the car's doing. it indeed doesn't do well in the cold, but batteries don't just lose large portions of their charge overnight due to their surrounding temperature.
They made an update recently that increased the charging to 155kW.
Problem is that it still dont manage that, and when it passes 150kW it is for a second or two. And that's how you get the 150kW charging thing...
They should just make it an universal Charging average standard on EVs, not what it peaks for a short while.
Also its thirsty, the update made it somewhat better but marginal.
Very few people only own an EV, and those people live almost exclusively in major cities (stats from actual dealers). Most of the range anxiety concern comes from people not buying EV's anyways. Why would you need 500 miles to a charge since you charge it overnight. The average miles driven per day is 29.5, so say we even triple that to 90.5, and even in the worst of conditions you lose 40% range to say cold weather. You'd still only need a 150 mile range EV and a 200 mile range EV would give you some comfort, the rest is just auto makers overbuilding stuff so people "consider" actually buying the cars. My 2008 jeep grand cherokee has an average 240 miles of range with a 21 gallon fuel tank and roughly 12mpg, and I have never had range anxiety. On a full tank (like you'd have leaving your house with a fully charged ev), that 240 miles is roughly 4 hours of driving on a highway, which isn't a bad time for a break anyways. Now I know there are some very specific use cases where the extra range is needed, but most are just stupid people.
Edit: the nav being pessimistic vs optimistic is a very good thing because making it to a charger on 3% is better than not making it to a charger
The lack of available public (free or otherwise) charging stations reminds me of my parents driving around in the early 1970s looking for a gas station that was not out of gas.
At the price point of these EVs, it's simply not worth the inconvenience or anxiety.
Just so everyone knows I have a Tesla. It'll say "295 miles of range". But When you drive 20 or so miles the range has gone down 30 miles in that timeframe. So take these "range" estimates with some grain of salt at least with Tesla anyway. You'll get used to what your vehicle can do and my Tesla is awesome! But I still say if you don't have a reliable way to charge it up fast basically every night (which will cost you about $1500 in equipment and hiring an electrician) I don't think it'll be useful for a large majority of people out there.
Hi Alex does this car make so much noise? Or is it the way you place your microphone?
I own one and it's pretty quite and rated quieter than a model 3.
There needs to be an option to replace that blue circle on the nav screen with the car from "Spy Hunter" or the Family Truckster from "Vacation"
Why are you upset about EVgo charge speed? You used the ONLY (I believe) 175 kW station in Northern California. 99% of EVgo stations are 50 kW, so you got pretty lucky! EA is another story, but VW had no choice and also wants to enable its own cars to fast charge.
Alex On Auto and TFL folks should sit down to have a conference call with the youtube channel Bjorn Nyland. He has all the data about EVs in a Norwegian settings where there are better EV infrastructure and acceptance.
The problem is that's Norway and the driving situation there is not really the same he does a high speed mileage test but his high speed mileage test is about average speed in the US or less even.
Temperature in climate are different as is the terrain and driving style.
but he certainly does have a wealth of information and comparing one vehicle against another certainly would still be accurate. But people in the US probably want to know what the car is capable of in the US not what it would do if they lived in Norway.
And actually there's a huge amount of charging infrastructure in the US also, it seems like California has a lack of DC fast chargers, or if they're older and 50kw but Electrify America has a rather extensive network on the interstates and they are all 150 and 350 KW stations.
@@kens97sto171 Bjørn does testing at 90kmh (60mph) and 110kmh (68mph) so it's a little bit slower than the 70/75mph that amercians are used to.
Good job ....fruitful info
I’m convinced that no manufacturer is taking EV’s seriously there is no reason to release a car with drastically lower range than Tesla in 2021 and call it a competitor.
Waiting for the Porsche Taycan...hope it's next
there are about 100 posts the different versions that you can google, about its real world range.... spoiler it's about 50% higher than its EPA range...
@@nc3826 yep, I see 260 Mi range driving 70-80. Charging also amazing when chargers work. I charged from 4% to 61% in less than 13min received 52kWh. That's 246kW avg, peaked at 263kW. Car preheated battery to 89F at charger arrival.
Put a couple of passengers, some cargo and throw in the cold weather up here, this thing is not going to do well. A long range Tesla seems to be the only option.
Alex, can you provide us your thoughts on the ride and handling difference between this Polestar and the one you drove with the performance pack? Not much out there regarding that. Thanks.
60F outside temp and you run the heater???!!! 🙄🙄🙄🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
He lives in California. 60 is "cold" here lol.
The Polestar has automatic climate control. If the temperature is set to 72° and the outside temperature is 60° then the heater will run.
Lol. Try mn where the windchill is -60°.
What is the watt hours per mile (or miles per watt hour)?
great video! but why those long void music sections? extremely annoying....
Damn it sounds like a bathroom inside the car.
you must live in an RV
Alex Nyland 😁
17:49
Caption it
At $60K how long to recover your added expense over the $28K Accord you could have bought???
You might as well compare a Yaris to a Porsche 911. The equivalent would be a Volvo S60 inscription for around $48k to $62k($54k after incentives) Polestar 2. chooseev.com/savings-calculator/ says about 5-7 years depending of how much you drive.
Imperium, TS did not even take in the account the tax credit... so you know was just being a pointless troll about it... SMH...
@@imperium2000 "You might as well compare a Yaris to a Porsche 911" -- You think the gap between an Accord and the Polestar is the same as between Yaris and a Porsche 911? You are delusional. Volvo may be a _little_ nicer inside than an Accord, but reliability wise Accord wins without a fight. Your hyperbole makes zero sense.
@@mountainhobo Thanks for completely missing the point. An Accord is not even in the same market segment as a Polestar/S60. People who want a 'luxury car' do not really cross shop the two. To compare the two is disingenuous. Try comparing an Acura RLX(which starts at $54k) to the Polestar 2.
@@imperium2000 "Thanks for completely missing the point." - Oh, how pompous and patronizing. Let's see about missing the point.
"People who want a 'luxury car' do not really cross shop the two" - Polestar may be a luxury car in your mind because you cannot afford a luxury car. That does not make it a luxury car. It may be "premium", but that's about as far as it would go.
"Try comparing an Acura RLX(which starts at $54k) to the Polestar 2" - Then you clearly missed the point made by Trevor Sutherland. Please reread his original post before responding again. Slowly.
Can you make a video about the status of BMW in general like the one you did about Infinity? Thanks :)
dougdemuro did it already
@@laloajuria4678 dougdemuro did brain fart on bmw
#1 There no savings if you have to shop for 2 hours while it charging #2 After road rage this will be the rage to get the first a charging station . #3 Beautiful appearance this Polestar that looklike the second generation of Scion Tc but in 4 doors version .
Where’s that Mach-e range test @alex?
Did this have the new update that increases range?
This has all the latest software updates we are told.
2.5h for 1 huge burger😁👍😉
Nice, but will it meatball?
You mean, will it do 🥓?
@@nc3826 Polestar, Swedish, meatball.
@@Eric_the_Hiking You got me on that one.... But there is more of Geely's chop suey in it's platform, than Volvo's meatballs... Shame Geely's Lynk & Co models are not exported.......
So this car is in line with the model y? I think you gave that a range of 225 real world miles?
Its pretty close
The Model Y long rage is closer in price and battery size and that is rated for 329 so probably 305 real world. Gotta compare similar battery size for efficiency
I disagree. Model Y is much more efficient and has much higher range than the Polestar. I have not had the opportunity to do much driving in the 60 degree temps that Alex enjoyed, but my 237 mile drive from Queensbury, NY to Danvers, MA in 30 degree temps proved to me that I had chosen the right vehicle for my needs. Here is the TeslaFi data from that trip in January. My Model Y used 273Wh/mile for a total of 65kWh on a 72kwH battery. Average speed was 57mph (mostly hwy, and secondary roads). Total elevation change was only -205 feet. Polestar can't touch that. I don't know what Alex did wrong when he tested the Model Y....haven't seen that video. Maybe he didn't precondition the cabin prior to his test? Maybe I had a big tail wind? I can't wait for spring to see how my range improves when the life support systems aren't working as hard.
Tesla Do'd Y Long Range 237.44 4 Hours 12 Minutes 82.6% 273 64.89 57 -205.9 ft 29.70 F 01/18/2021
OK. So I watched the Model Y video. He did not precondition the Y prior to departure (which is what anyone who plans to get all the distance they can from 1 battery charge would do before driving) His Model Y video confirms that the Tesla is much more efficient. He ran the Model Y in 93 degree temps where the car must cool the cabin, batteries and motors. Basically, the Polestar range test was conducted under much more ideal conditions. I expect to cover 270 miles with ease when my temps finally make it up into the 60's.
Great car, but I think this needs some heavy incentives before it appeals to most people.
Warm welcome to Polestar becoming part of Geely China group of companies #MadeInChina2025 #BeltAndRoad 🇨🇳
10:34 here you were obviously flying
People want you to go farther to see if you actually get stranded with zero percent charge left. So you are now slowing down to 68 mph in school zones, but are you still going triple digits on the freeway?
7:12 What fuel do you use in that EV? 😆
So you had 1 option, with 1 charger, and it only provided 100kw. I won't take this car anywhere but commuting. What a shame. I look forward to the day where there would be more EVs that you can take on trips. For now, Tesla is the only real option. I don't see that changing until 2025 - especially with more cars competing for these non-Tesla fast DC chargers. Super disappointing. At the end of the day, range is not really an issue if you have where to charge. Doesn't matter if EPA is optimistic or pessimistic if you can easily find a spot to charge.
I had plenty of options, but this was the only 175kw plug there, the others were 50-100kw
Quite a bit of road noise, think my Volvo is much quieter.....
2 plus hours to charge. I have two small children... I just don't seem that situation ever working.... someone should get hydrogen workable.
What kind of burger did you get?.....!!!
Regarding the official range comments at 4:00 I wish the authorities would give a highway and city rating like we get for ICE cars. That would be a lot more useful to get a sense of what range to expect.
To be honest, BYD, X-peng, NIO are way more better than pole star EVs
And the blade battery technology is even better than Tesla
you OK? CCP watching?....
@@laloajuria4678 I don't care, I am a Canadian live in China
@@lucisleesion8824 So your saying Geely, is the Chinese stepchild who got it wrong??? What do you think of Lynk & Co? And would love to see BYD license out its LFP blade battery technology in markets where its not selling its own cars, since they are cheaper and it's easier to recycle... Also good luck ignoring all the CCP BOT for brains trolls....
What did Tesla do on the same loop?
I think it’s safe to say this whole ev experiment is still, thoroughly, in the beta stage. Maybe in 10 years. Maybe
The issue with your tests are:
When you turn off lift-off braking, you are gimping all EVs. Then for EVs with blended braking, you are specifically gimping the Teslas.
In your tests since you drive a good amount of city driving, you are extraly gimping Teslas because when you use the brakes in some other EVs they get to recharge, while Teslas won't have a chance to recharge when you brake.
Nope. In highway range tests you're not using much throttle lift-off regen to begin with and since Tesla doesn't have a "off" mode, only a low mode, the majority of braking is still regen. And lastly, regen doesn't get you much of a range bump in these tests. With regen on max the Model 3 I owned had zero change in the range score on the same trip. We're just not talking about enough energy to make a difference.
Coasting is more efficient than regen. Coasting costs zero energy. Regen wastes some as heat. One-pedal driving is less efficient than coasting with brake pedal-activated regen. Tesla is wrong, they only did one-pedal driving because they couldn’t make blended braking work right.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Right. I like that my e-Golf has 5 regen modes (blended braking, too) so I choose max regen for local driving and mild regen for highway driving. Multi regen modes should be standard.
I wonder what Alex's reaction would have been had he missed that ONE charger? The more I hear about these battery powered cars, the less I want one.
"these battery powered cars" FLMAO.... good luck with your horse and buggy....
I agree. Seems like our culture is pushing EVs faster than charging stations. When charging stations are as ample and as fast as gas stations I will hold off buying an EV .
good luck learning how to plug things in at home.... "On average, Americans drive 29.2 miles per day" newsroom.aaa.com/2015/04/new-study-reveals-much-motorists-drive/
@@nc3826 - You MISSED THE POINT rushing to insult me rather than to understand the problem. I hope your fragile ego feels better now.
AB: You MISSED THE POINT that your, your own problem. I already pointed out that 99% of the energy comes from plugging at home.. Good luck learning that trick someday, while your stuck in Mesozoic era (ie the oil formation period).... Before you just die off with the rest of the dinosaurs.... SMH... FWIW it's just facts, your taking it personally like baby would... guess your regressing :)
These mega giant auto industries need to stop with these mediocre 200 suck miles. Before the bullies crucified me for sharing my feelings about short range capacity, consumer have a much better understanding of their own EV needs and even if you live in a mega city or what have you, people are demanding long range capacity vehicles and not one grocery stop EV. Please don’t hurt me by bullying me now😭🥺 is just sharing ideas.✌️
All depends on use case. Plenty of people do use these cars and indeed shorter range EVs as commuting cars. They also probably have a second family car for longer journeys.
In countries with decent fast chargers, people might elect to live with it (situation is going to improve anyway) for the occasional road trips.
I only have one car and hence like you, 200m range won't do me although I only occasionally do longer journeys. The drawbacks and higher initial costs isn't worth it just yet. Things will change a lot in 5 years or so is my bet and in 10 years, where I am , it will be a no brainer to get an EV
@@TsLeng ......I hear you and I totally understand your view as well and makes sense too. I live in a big city but things generally speaking are very far, plus traffic increases the need of consume more gas ⛽️ or in this case electricity ⚡️.
It takes me about 60 miles round trip to work, and doesn’t include the most of the week’s days other errands, so like for me I would eat up those 200miles in a 1 1/2....lol
But like you said in a way, every scenario is different and with the hope for more standard EV charging station, things can probably feel more tolerable when having a short range EV.
Thanks for sharing 👍
@@MaxKito2 You use LESS battery in traffic, regen is your friend. And after you use those 200 mi, you plugin at home and start the next day with another 220 mi.
But if you can't plugin at home, buy a hybrid.
@@rcole1175 .....Thanks for your approach, but I don’t have a home....and where I live not even possible to charge, which as you certainly know is very much the case or similar for a lot of other people interested on an EV. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
@@MaxKito2 yep, if you don't have home charging, youll lose out on a lot of the EV benefits. In this case, I'd say you lose the most important benefit which is cheap overnight charging.
230 miles is not enough. 400 should be the bare minimum. At least for those of us in the norhtwest. (It's usually at least 300 miles between big cities out here)...
who needs electric when you can have unlimited range with a fossil fuel vehicle -?
how are you not a fan of 1 pedal driving?!
Because my right foot is capable of moving from side to side ;-) Kidding aside, one pedal driving isn't as smooth as two pedals and regen braking and since there is no "coast" mode, it is also less efficient.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide True, but for stop and go (ie city driving) its a perfect fit that on average will increase not decrease efficiency.... So it does not makes sense to make a blanket statement about it...
Personal preference? I happen to like coasting. Pretty sure Alex was just giving his opinion as well.
NP since coasting makes sense.... sometimes....
Alex I guess you haven’t heard the meaning of 233 in recent Chinese internet culture!
no wonder you ppl love to gamble so much... it all about finding deeper meaning in the numbers.... but in the west they are just numbers....
@@nc3826 nah this 233 is just similar to an emoji
@@bikingmoments post the emoji...
FWIW googled what it meant... and it does not look like any emoji, that I know of that has that meaning...
@@bikingmoments BTW the fact that number seems to look similar to an emoji for some chinese.... was exactly what I referring to in my original comment, so yea...
Can you do a similar test with Model Y SR RWD?
I’d have to try and find one...
Not as efficient as it should be. Tesla is really the benchmark for EVs.
Tesla is very efficient, but the over 300 mile claim is very hard to achieve in real world driving. A model 3 LR will do about 260~280 on average, while the SR+ model does 192 miles on average
Also the most efficient car was a korean ev from what I've seen on the carwow EV test. At least from some youtube videos where they compare efficiency (tesla bjorn and carwow)
@@redReiRei Model 3 is the most efficient of all, Korean cars included. Sure it won't go as far as advertised but it is very efficient and the rapid charging and omnipresence of Tesla Superchargers is a perfect combination.
Tesla's mileage claims may be a little overblown, but without question they are in the real world much more efficient than any other comparable EV. There are other vehicles that are pretty close, but they don't have the AWD or performance.
Good vid!
I'll consider an EV once the range hits a dependable 500 mi.
That's exactly how I feel when driving to fill up the gas.
That’s why you don’t buy the Polestar2.
And me, I'm saying oh no I need gas! No problem there ones on the next corner. Fill up in less than 5 minutes.