@Right_Bumper there's only two routes this can go for skin modders 1. Sonic with extremely buff legs, like, I'm talking disproportionately buff, comparable to gym goers who only do leg day, like his legs are so fuckin buff, they look ridiculous on him 2. dbz fanskins
@@ricardowilliams3765 No. Down B halts a little bit of your momentum upon contact with your opponent. The problem with this mod is side B. It's easy to predict, but the problem lies with the fact that it can go through shield and is easily spamable. I hope he patches it in later updates.
It only took the beginning to make me think "This is what the moveset should have been like from the start, or at least since Smash 4, because it feels more like Sonic"
@@Faz10do987 Well, most of the moveset seems to be taken from Sonic Battle for the GBA, those attacks are pretty well known because of Flash Sprite animations.
This is so awesome, this mod is everything I've missed in Sonic, his slender wacky proportions, his attitude, colour and animations showcase so much more from what we got. His moveset is way more accurate to his history since his inclusion in 2008 to today, and the 06 style fits him like a glove. Great work!
I’m genuinely baffled how Sakurai and his team didn’t look the the actual Sonic Fighting game that was actually on a Nintendo system for Sonic’s moveset Taking things from Battle should’ve been a no brainer
I mean yeah, Sonic the Fighters was a THING, but why in the name of god did Sakurai and the team NOT get the majority of Sonic’s fighting moveset from a game called SONIC. BATTLE?!
It’s become tradition at this point for the fans to do better than any company could in a year with only a week’s worth of time and still come out on top.
@soniclink-mr3ci Sonic's been popping off lately these past years kind of. Mania, the movies, Frontiers, and ESPECIALLY this year with Sonic X Shadow Generations.
@@Mohammed1000real but still, is worse to have an iconic villian being a clone of a character that has nothing to do with him and has no source material for a moveset, than having a character that is AT LEAST represented with a proper moveset
@@Waluigi723 Ganondorf at least doesn't feel bland, and he's slowly been updated to be more in line with what he's supposed to be, at least the melee oriented versions of him.
I know! THIS version of Sonic feels true to his character while also ACTUALLY feeling fun to play as and not just running away from the opponent whenever the Sonic player gets a stock lead.
The moment I heard the video start with "But you can hardly swallow" I was like "OH GOD NO WAIT" until I realized it was a completely notmal version of the song. If you know, you know.
Boost being a combo starter instead of just a spamable Hit-N-Run side B is so cool, like he's tackling you with all his weight rather than just blowing past you.
Wow, this is phenomenal work. Even the model's way better too. Love the longer quills and those eyes are so much nicer to look at, but I dunno why. Everything about this mod is just better than the actual thing.
He still seems busted as his ingame version, if not more so. He's recovering from the BOTTOM CORNER OF THE BLAST ZONE. WHILE BEING CONTESTED. No character, not even Sora, should be allowed to do that.
not really.... knowing him he would say that it makes sonic even more op and that the old one was less abused and that the only good change is the SA2 pose
@@Good-boy-maxy Yeah? He has a new Side Special and some new normals. And most of those normal changes seem to be animation overhauls - it doesn't look like they have crazy new properties.
It would be cool if his neutral air was the drop dash. You can press it for the attack then hold it for more frames then automatically spin dash when you hit the ground.
Imagine having a game called sonic battle and not implementing the freaking unique attacks. Bruh. (Context: Sonic's been in the game since brawl and half of his attacks are still spin dash variants)
I blame Nintendo and sega, Nintendo for ignoring the hell out of sonic for multiple smash games, and sega for not making sonic battle more well known, barely anyone knows about it and that's the main reason sonic doesn't even have a good moveset
@tomokisakurai3997 I don't think that sonic battle's obscurity is good reasoning. The game has a creative move set, yet they ignored it. There are other characters with obscure moves too, such as pac man. It was straight up negligence.
As sad as I am about Battle’s obscurity, I’m so happy when people recognize it. It was so frickin cool to kid me and it STILL is today. (Of course I didn’t grow up around when it released XD but still one of the best games I’ve played and would love to direct a fan remaster for
@@tomokisakurai3997 hard to use battle's obscurity as an excuse when one of his few non-ball moves is a freaking sonic the fighters reference of all things(fsmash)
This trailer completely blows the 2007 trailer out of the stratosphere, everything about really showcases what Sonic is all about right down to his attitude, stylish nature and what he could’ve brought to Smash as a fighter. I rate this with a 2000 Score of 🌈PERFECT🌈
Its perfect!!! this is how I would love a Sonic rework for a future Smash game! big fan of how you put some of the details that made him really expressive in Brawl and put even more to it!! Boost as his side special looks amazing and the variations of Battle Style are pretty cool!
Yooo this looks sooo cool! I've always wanted boost to be his side b and the changes to his throws and aerials are sick! The only thing I'm iffy on is the up b. If it's going to be a combo move, then maybe it should go less higher in the air, kinda akin to the double spring from Smash 4. Im just saying this so he doesn't become the next bayo with those potentially early ladders I saw. Another thing that feels off is the spin charge. It feels weirdly slow, which I more than understand nerfing, but I fear it would be rather useless with that speed, especially now that he has a boost. But still, wow, this was amazing. I'd so prefer over Ssf2, and especially Ssbu!
Fr im getting sick and tired of my favorite characters getting hoed cause of some bs popularity, it's hella unfair, the likes of sonic, Kirby, ganondorf and other characters should get a rework on their moveset, it's ridiculous how 2 iconic video game characters and zelda worst enemy get treated like garbage
My only real problem would be the sheer number of spikes he has, and his invulnerability with up B if he has it. I say this as a Sonic main, I adore these mods, but he would still need a couple tweaks to not be *completely* oppressive. But I love forcing people to be aggressive with him.
@@dogyX3rather have this sonic than what Nintendo gave us, I could care less about the people who's probably cry abo balence, especially since smash was never balanced in the first place
@tomokisakurai3997 kind of get that, but it's still important to make sure characters are fun to fight. Fighting a Captain Falcon? Always a good time. Fighting a damned Kazuya, Steve, or, being real, Sonic right now 95% of the time? Absolute agony.
While I think a few animations could use a bit more polish, the altered attacks are great choices; down-smash is excellent, and I also love the Adventure pose on up-air, and the Battle-style dash attack and up-throw. Very well done!
Honestly, in some perfect future where Smash 6 happens and they do revamp Sonic's moveset, this is something I would want. Modern Sonic's moves being more inspired by his modern games. Especially now with Frontiers giving him more tools that are combat focused. And for those that would miss his original moveset. That's an easy fix. Make an Echo Fighter and call him Classic Sonic. It'd be a way to introduce Classic Sonic to the Smash and keep his old moveset. This mod is wonderful tho, props to the devs.
The new attacks are definitely an improvement, but I feel like they were making the new model too much like his 06 design. I understand the Sonic Smash model needed some improvements, but making his shoes and quills a little too long just kind of threw it off for me.
Next to Ganondorf, I **HOPE** that Sonic’s moveset is tweaked to be similar to THIS in the next Smash game. A moveset that makes Sonic FEEL like Sonic and not a blue ball for 7 minutes. That sneaky Adventure pose during his up air, the Frontiers move for his Up Throw or alternatively his Tornado attack from Heroes, his eagle kick from Sonic Battle, His boost from the modern boost games (although I wish there was a meter for the boost to avoid it being spammable), his taunts FINALLY expressing genuine personality again, his awesome Sonic Adventure 2 inspired win animation. THIS Sonic alongside some tweaking on the frame rate of some moves would be a BLAST to play as, as Sonic SHOULD ‘VE been since the start!
This is so much better! I wished SEGA did help to make Sonic better in Super Smash Bros., especially back in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I think that why Sonic is rushed in Brawl is because this is right after Nintendo and SEGA rivalry ended and they are starting to know about each-other, so what I think is that Nintendo doesn't even know much about Sonic as SEGA does. I think if we convince SEGA about this, maybe for the next Smash game, they can help rework Sonic and have more unique content with it (music, stages, etc.), heck maybe the other Sonic characters will join as fighters, and if boss battles are in the next game, Dr. Eggman will be perfect for a boss battle.
I really like how most of his attacks are using his legs.
Makes sense, his legs pack pretty much all of the speed. They'd definitely be deadly weapons
@@Right_Bumpereven though I agree, Sonic's punches are canonically pretty powerful
Mario has forward aerial that'd kill you irl.
Sonic has backward aerial that'd kill you irl.
@@swampfire_edits8976I'm pretty sure any physical attack would be devastating when coming from a hedgehog moving at supersonic speed
@Right_Bumper there's only two routes this can go for skin modders
1. Sonic with extremely buff legs, like, I'm talking disproportionately buff, comparable to gym goers who only do leg day, like his legs are so fuckin buff, they look ridiculous on him
2. dbz fanskins
mario learned in the trailer
he didn't get absolutely flung into the abyss.
"Yes"
Mario will NOT return to Minecraft
He also learned from Brawl, as he dodged Sonic running, unlike in Brawl
Bro this is so much better than what we got
Nah. 🥱
Yeah, not a big fan of how rushed the current one was back in Brawl. This right here? THIS is what we ACTUALLY deserve.
@@Roto3yes it is what are you talking about
@@yobrosonan1082prolly his opinion even tho it’s a shitty one. I agree that this Sonic is way better.
Fr
I love how this mod actually makes Sonic a rushdown character, and not a, spam side special and run away the entire time, character!
Is down b nearly as spamable?
@@ricardowilliams3765 No. Down B halts a little bit of your momentum upon contact with your opponent. The problem with this mod is side B. It's easy to predict, but the problem lies with the fact that it can go through shield and is easily spamable. I hope he patches it in later updates.
Yeah Boost and dash atk shouldn't go through shield (didn't pay attention during matches, dunno if it currently does)
0:14 bro the up air into the sonic adventure pose 😭🔥🔥🔥
That’s Sonic for ya! Takes any chance to show off to the crowd while beating his opponents at the same time!
0:13
It only took the beginning to make me think "This is what the moveset should have been like from the start, or at least since Smash 4, because it feels more like Sonic"
Sonic with Vanilla moveset: BRO IT’S BAD
Sonic with Modded Movesets: Masterpiece
I mean yeah, he doesn't have 5 moves that look exactly the same anymore. It is peak.
It’s not bad, but it is definitely a generic moveset
I actually agree I find this mod much better than the original
@@Faz10do987 Well, most of the moveset seems to be taken from Sonic Battle for the GBA, those attacks are pretty well known because of Flash Sprite animations.
@Faz10do987 it doesn't really need to be something crazy like Kazuma just better and more fun
His idle is the Sonic Rush idle LETS GOOO
Its super stiff tho
Hope that can be updated to be actually nice to look at
I like how you referenced Sonic’s Brawl Reveal Trailer at the start! This moveset is what Sonic should have been.
8:27
There was zero requirement to do Little Mac like that
the little mac bullying never ends
Smash 4 Bayonetta type shi
This was the amount of respect I was hoping he would have in the actual game.
This is so awesome, this mod is everything I've missed in Sonic, his slender wacky proportions, his attitude, colour and animations showcase so much more from what we got. His moveset is way more accurate to his history since his inclusion in 2008 to today, and the 06 style fits him like a glove. Great work!
0:23 Oh I love the Tornado Jump sound from Sonic Heroes
Sonic gets a new moveset
6:43 Is perfect
I’m genuinely baffled how Sakurai and his team didn’t look the the actual Sonic Fighting game that was actually on a Nintendo system for Sonic’s moveset
Taking things from Battle should’ve been a no brainer
I mean yeah, Sonic the Fighters was a THING, but why in the name of god did Sakurai and the team NOT get the majority of Sonic’s fighting moveset from a game called SONIC. BATTLE?!
The fact fans can put more effort into Sonic is wild
It’s become tradition at this point for the fans to do better than any company could in a year with only a week’s worth of time and still come out on top.
@soniclink-mr3ci Sonic's been popping off lately these past years kind of. Mania, the movies, Frontiers, and ESPECIALLY this year with Sonic X Shadow Generations.
This is literally a must-have fix to the Smash Team's biggest mistake.
*Second biggest mistake
Remember Ganondorf exists
@@Waluigi723 I'm not a Zelda fan so i could care less for Ganondorf.
@@Mohammed1000real but still, is worse to have an iconic villian being a clone of a character that has nothing to do with him and has no source material for a moveset, than having a character that is AT LEAST represented with a proper moveset
More like on purpose
@@Waluigi723
Ganondorf at least doesn't feel bland, and he's slowly been updated to be more in line with what he's supposed to be, at least the melee oriented versions of him.
I like how sonic has more soul and personality, like he even has an adventure pose snuck into the uair
and ACTUAL SKINS this time man
I know! THIS version of Sonic feels true to his character while also ACTUALLY feeling fun to play as and not just running away from the opponent whenever the Sonic player gets a stock lead.
The Light Speed dash sound effect as the Charging Homing Attack fits soooo perfectly.
3:46 this victory animation is so sick
No, YOU'RE sick.
BEST SONIC EVER OH MY GOD ABSOLUTE CINEMA
Sorry but you don't need to be cringe like that girl
The moment I heard the video start with "But you can hardly swallow" I was like "OH GOD NO WAIT" until I realized it was a completely notmal version of the song. If you know, you know.
Uh?
@thereel1_real There's an edit somebody where when it gets to that part, the rest of the song just consists of that part looped lmao
@@CorruptFox92 lol
Oh fuck yeah! IVE BEEN WAITING TO GET THIS MOD FOREVER! 😎
I absolutely LOVE to see the Sonic Battle (GBA) moveset representation adapted into smash. Mega kudos. ✌️😎✨️
Boost being a combo starter instead of just a spamable Hit-N-Run side B is so cool, like he's tackling you with all his weight rather than just blowing past you.
Dude the one reason i liked the ssf2 sonic was straight up because he had an axe kick as a f-air.. And DAMN i fuck with that up air heavy!
8:30
DRAMATIC FINISH!!
THAT WAS AWESOME
8:08 Bro killed Mac at 48% this mod is cracked!😂
Exactly, there's nothing about spring having a hitbox in the original game, so that shouldn't even have a hitbox.
The spring shouldn't either
Yeah this looks broken af
This is my sonic. Fuck yes
Wow, this is phenomenal work. Even the model's way better too. Love the longer quills and those eyes are so much nicer to look at, but I dunno why. Everything about this mod is just better than the actual thing.
8:33 disrespectful 😭😭😭😭
10:19 OH MY GOD 😭
They gave him his attitude back
3:46 BRO WHAT THE FRICKING FRICK?! THAT WAS SICK!
Man, this is better than Campy Sonic(since Brawl).
Skill Issue
Yep. Needing to play Sonic to win certainly does show an issue with skill.
He still seems busted as his ingame version, if not more so.
He's recovering from the BOTTOM CORNER OF THE BLAST ZONE. WHILE BEING CONTESTED.
No character, not even Sora, should be allowed to do that.
This is absolutely incredible work and I applaud all the modders and animators that worked on it, beautiful
Maybe nerf that up special tho 😅
THE COMBO GAME IS INSANE
Please make sure Sonix sees this design. He is the face of Sonic in the current meta, and I'm sure he will appreciate this more than anyone.
not really.... knowing him he would say that it makes sonic even more op and that the old one was less abused and that the only good change is the SA2 pose
@ I never said he would approve of it's use in competition, just that he would appreciate the design.
I love this mod. You've done great =)
You all did =)
Some small changes really do make a difference.
Small?
@@Good-boy-maxy Yeah? He has a new Side Special and some new normals. And most of those normal changes seem to be animation overhauls - it doesn't look like they have crazy new properties.
It would be cool if his neutral air was the drop dash. You can press it for the attack then hold it for more frames then automatically spin dash when you hit the ground.
Imagine having a game called sonic battle and not implementing the freaking unique attacks. Bruh.
(Context: Sonic's been in the game since brawl and half of his attacks are still spin dash variants)
I blame Nintendo and sega, Nintendo for ignoring the hell out of sonic for multiple smash games, and sega for not making sonic battle more well known, barely anyone knows about it and that's the main reason sonic doesn't even have a good moveset
@tomokisakurai3997 I don't think that sonic battle's obscurity is good reasoning. The game has a creative move set, yet they ignored it. There are other characters with obscure moves too, such as pac man. It was straight up negligence.
As sad as I am about Battle’s obscurity, I’m so happy when people recognize it. It was so frickin cool to kid me and it STILL is today.
(Of course I didn’t grow up around when it released XD but still one of the best games I’ve played and would love to direct a fan remaster for
@@tomokisakurai3997 hard to use battle's obscurity as an excuse when one of his few non-ball moves is a freaking sonic the fighters reference of all things(fsmash)
sonics down air in smash bros has always been straight from battle
finally, this is what it should’ve been.
This trailer completely blows the 2007 trailer out of the stratosphere, everything about really showcases what Sonic is all about right down to his attitude, stylish nature and what he could’ve brought to Smash as a fighter. I rate this with a 2000 Score of 🌈PERFECT🌈
Loving the callbacks to the Brawl reveal trailer.
The tornado from sonic Heroes is so nostalgic you made me so happy
I love this! One of the coolest mods with way better movesets!
Its perfect!!! this is how I would love a Sonic rework for a future Smash game! big fan of how you put some of the details that made him really expressive in Brawl and put even more to it!!
Boost as his side special looks amazing and the variations of Battle Style are pretty cool!
9:26 must have been so satisfying to hit
Yooo this looks sooo cool! I've always wanted boost to be his side b and the changes to his throws and aerials are sick!
The only thing I'm iffy on is the up b. If it's going to be a combo move, then maybe it should go less higher in the air, kinda akin to the double spring from Smash 4. Im just saying this so he doesn't become the next bayo with those potentially early ladders I saw.
Another thing that feels off is the spin charge. It feels weirdly slow, which I more than understand nerfing, but I fear it would be rather useless with that speed, especially now that he has a boost.
But still, wow, this was amazing. I'd so prefer over Ssf2, and especially Ssbu!
yall think this is cool bc it's new. Every move looks broken, especially those down airs.
Jump cancel wonderwing with that dair and fair? no sir.
Dude this is sick. It actually feels like Sonic.
The Adventure 1 pose was beautiful.
Honestly my main reason for wanting another smash is the potential of Sonic and Kirby getting reworked like this.
Fr im getting sick and tired of my favorite characters getting hoed cause of some bs popularity, it's hella unfair, the likes of sonic, Kirby, ganondorf and other characters should get a rework on their moveset, it's ridiculous how 2 iconic video game characters and zelda worst enemy get treated like garbage
As someone who would rewatch the Sonic Trailer till the cows came home back in Brawl as a kid, I LOVE the references to it in the intro 😭
My only real problem would be the sheer number of spikes he has, and his invulnerability with up B if he has it.
I say this as a Sonic main, I adore these mods, but he would still need a couple tweaks to not be *completely* oppressive.
But I love forcing people to be aggressive with him.
Yeah, it's even more op than what we have now
But it's still better to the true source
@@dogyX3rather have this sonic than what Nintendo gave us, I could care less about the people who's probably cry abo balence, especially since smash was never balanced in the first place
@tomokisakurai3997 kind of get that, but it's still important to make sure characters are fun to fight.
Fighting a Captain Falcon? Always a good time.
Fighting a damned Kazuya, Steve, or, being real, Sonic right now 95% of the time? Absolute agony.
Prime example of fans understanding sonic better than anyone else
3:38 It's a good thing you add Fire Sonic 🙂
While I think a few animations could use a bit more polish, the altered attacks are great choices; down-smash is excellent, and I also love the Adventure pose on up-air, and the Battle-style dash attack and up-throw. Very well done!
Imagine Sonic having this moveset and to play against him in the competitive scene?? Holyyyyy
The spike will always and forever will be the flip kick from SSf2
Is this the new Replacement of Smash 4 Bayonetta 4:21
Honestly, in some perfect future where Smash 6 happens and they do revamp Sonic's moveset, this is something I would want. Modern Sonic's moves being more inspired by his modern games. Especially now with Frontiers giving him more tools that are combat focused. And for those that would miss his original moveset. That's an easy fix. Make an Echo Fighter and call him Classic Sonic. It'd be a way to introduce Classic Sonic to the Smash and keep his old moveset. This mod is wonderful tho, props to the devs.
SEE THIS IS THE SONIC WE ALL NEED IN SMASH!!
Sakurai, please take notes...put *this* Sonic in next Smash game
The sonic tornado from heroes was the best part for me
Absolutely beautiful. This is the Sonic I dreamed of!
I never thought about Stomp being his down air
This is one of the greatest Super smash brothers ultimate mod. I have ever seen.
THIS IS HOW SONIC SHOULD’VE BEEN, GAME ACCURATE
Eat it Sakurai!
The new attacks are definitely an improvement, but I feel like they were making the new model too much like his 06 design. I understand the Sonic Smash model needed some improvements, but making his shoes and quills a little too long just kind of threw it off for me.
Next to Ganondorf, I **HOPE** that Sonic’s moveset is tweaked to be similar to THIS in the next Smash game. A moveset that makes Sonic FEEL like Sonic and not a blue ball for 7 minutes.
That sneaky Adventure pose during his up air, the Frontiers move for his Up Throw or alternatively his Tornado attack from Heroes, his eagle kick from Sonic Battle, His boost from the modern boost games (although I wish there was a meter for the boost to avoid it being spammable), his taunts FINALLY expressing genuine personality again, his awesome Sonic Adventure 2 inspired win animation. THIS Sonic alongside some tweaking on the frame rate of some moves would be a BLAST to play as, as Sonic SHOULD ‘VE been since the start!
Im very impressed by the animations
Made sonic even more broken than he already is
And now he’s killing with style 😭
His dash attack❤❤
You got me since the old taunt of Y2Slow
When I first saw this I was so happy as a sonic head I always wanted a moveset that fit for the blue blur one with more relation to his own games
Finally you made a trailer ❤
Lore accurate
Why is it people never decide to stick with Roger's Sonic and give him better voice lines? He's not short on em.
2000s bias. Which can’t say I blame them. Roger’s a fine actor but I find myself liking his dipiction of Sonic less and less as time goes by.
how does switching from battle to modern work? this is really interesting.
Yes a much more faithful re-imaging of his moveset
3:46 DAMN!
Honestly this is what we should have gotten
Sonic if he was a DLC character:
Eye candy in an XTREMELY handsome hedgehog-shaped package! Nintendo’s gotta step it up! C’mon!
this makes him so much more viable as a character
Nah that up air is fucking hard. 🔥
Ssf2 Wario This Sonic
🤝
Getting side b changed to a short dash forward for the sake of game accuracy
so so sick
This is the sonic i always wish we had in smash
An alternate costume with no changes other than added soap shoes would be nice
8:31 THAT KILLED AT 39%!! 🫨
Why only legs? Sonic has shattered robots, sent enemies flying across vast distances, and even caused minor earthquakes with his punches.
I love how he look I love the adventure era of sonic so I appreciate the model
Modern one FITS PERFECTLY and EVEN MUCH BETTER than the original
bro this is PEAK!
For the last time, the fans do a better work than the original
This is so much better! I wished SEGA did help to make Sonic better in Super Smash Bros., especially back in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I think that why Sonic is rushed in Brawl is because this is right after Nintendo and SEGA rivalry ended and they are starting to know about each-other, so what I think is that Nintendo doesn't even know much about Sonic as SEGA does.
I think if we convince SEGA about this, maybe for the next Smash game, they can help rework Sonic and have more unique content with it (music, stages, etc.), heck maybe the other Sonic characters will join as fighters, and if boss battles are in the next game, Dr. Eggman will be perfect for a boss battle.
Please bro bring Travis Touchdown in smash bros and hello from Germany