I have all of these; I agree with pretty much everything. AS feels good because of the tune, feels a lot like a kraken but yeah has that ass weight. My b+ kraken feels slow as both the trainer and live blade variant for some reason. I pretty much don't really fuck with it. Then I have a live blade and trainer authentic kraken. The quality on the real ones is just hella good. trainers good but ofc handle bias, tantos better of course.
You summed this up so perfectly that im pinning this comment for everyone to see. Id love to try the tanto cuz i do like more nutral balances but (sadly) im UK so thats a lil difficult
@@CloneSupport feel for you because a lot of trainer blades aren't that good. I like both trainer and live but balance is most important. I almost bought the last hourglass kraken blade the other day just to make the trainer feel like a tanto.
have you tried putting the B+ blade onto the real kraken? Lmk cuz its what im planning to do and im gonna be hella pissed if it doesnt work after waiting over 3 months for a clone (still hasnt arrived)
@@scoefy1173 unfortunately, out of laziness, I have not 😂 I'm curious and want to know what is interchangeable between them all but don't have the willpower to test it
Sound can be improved with Baliplus if you replace the pivots and washers with Squid Industries hardware, I did this with my Baliplus Replicant with USAKM hardware and it made it better. This is usually the rule with any Baliplus, if you just replace the hardware the knife will be usually improved. People do this with the Tsunami clone too.
I watching this video in 2024. and Baliplus still has same problem. Even if it's Kraken in V3. I wasn't sure why happened to get bad bushings in 3 days, so this video was helpful. I would want to replace and fix my BP Kraken hardware someday. and I will buy Squid Industries's balisong someday. Thank you for your informative video
Hey, wasnt around here for a long time, but im going to watch all the videos later. Im really glad you hopped back on the grind :) i love your videos, have a great day
Maybe the big move is getting a baliplus kraken with a live blade , then stick armed shark handles on that knife , then your armed shark is really armed (and dangerous)
I wouldn’t say so. It’s better build quality for sure but the clones are very close. Having owned many many more krakens and kraken clones since this video id say there’s a definite difference in quality and even feel but its getting so close now with the AS V3 that if you didn’t have them side by side idk if you would know the difference
i feel it would be worth the money if they came with a live blade too for the same price or even a bit more. but 200 bones for a trainer, and it not ti or anything special. its too much. Yes they flip great, but its crazy expensive for what you are getting.
Maybe. I think most of the squid products (except for maybe the live kraken) are a tad overpriced. But I still don’t mind the price and tbh I will probably buy another one at some point
You need to tune your balisong. There’s different methods for different problems but I cover some of the basics in my tuning tutorial. ua-cam.com/video/je4vARAevWA/v-deo.html
@@Maza0913 no, I mean go find my video for the pink armed shark kraken and click on the link in the description. Or just go on AliExpress and search “armed shark kraken balisong” and find it that way.
@@abizarfa5655 it depends on the bushing that you have. If you also replace the bushing then yes it can be. But if u replace the pivots and washers it will make it sound and feel better but idk if it will be perfect
@@CloneSupport thanks a bunch and btw are you looking into getting a glidr some time soon? Some og4 colors are in stock rn and while the arctic and antarctic are in the coming months
Ooooo been waiting for this one. Lol one thing I will say is that ay least for me my real kraken trainer came with tap/rub, play, and the screws are pretty close to being stripped. One of them on one side even fully stripped right off the bat. May have just got a bad example but for $250 (I got an inked model) I expected more. I plan to get an armed shark at some point to compare the two and given that the hardwear can be used in the real one I might do a switch as well. Hell may even switch the bushings out since the real one has that tap/rub and play.
Really? I didn’t know the Armed Shark could replace the real kraken. It’s a shame I’ve sold my armed shark clone or I’d try it with my real kraken trainer. Also sucks about having tap and play out the box, I guess I got lucky
@@CloneSupport I mean that's what I've heard. Not sure I'd try it until I saw a few videos of others doing it first lol. And yaaaa wasn't too thrilled about it. But I'll get it fixed up in due time.
So sad I can't buy any more balis cause it gets cancelled for legal reasons I guess because my country doesn't let knifes get ship even tho it's a trainer
@@MrStepler handle bias is where the handles are heavier than the blade. It changes the way the balisong flips. Most balisongs are handle bias to neutral
seeing this video makes me jealous since I love the kraken I might but the baliplus kraken since its the cheapest but its decent and way way better than my mamba clone
The B+ Kraken is a very good option if u want a kraken clone. Flips similarly. The only things that are noticeably different are the sound and the quality of aluminium, something that wouldn’t even bother you if u hadn’t flipped a real kraken. I definitely recommend it
The way the trainer blades are mad makes them have a loud ringing noise. The tape stops the vibration and gets rid of the ringing noise. I had a headache and didn’t want to listen to it
Sadly i just couldnt get a hold one one for the vid. Tho its widly considered the worst of the 3 clones so im not too fussed about not putting it in the video
I have all of these; I agree with pretty much everything. AS feels good because of the tune, feels a lot like a kraken but yeah has that ass weight. My b+ kraken feels slow as both the trainer and live blade variant for some reason. I pretty much don't really fuck with it. Then I have a live blade and trainer authentic kraken. The quality on the real ones is just hella good. trainers good but ofc handle bias, tantos better of course.
You summed this up so perfectly that im pinning this comment for everyone to see. Id love to try the tanto cuz i do like more nutral balances but (sadly) im UK so thats a lil difficult
@@CloneSupport feel for you because a lot of trainer blades aren't that good. I like both trainer and live but balance is most important. I almost bought the last hourglass kraken blade the other day just to make the trainer feel like a tanto.
have you tried putting the B+ blade onto the real kraken? Lmk cuz its what im planning to do and im gonna be hella pissed if it doesnt work after waiting over 3 months for a clone (still hasnt arrived)
@@scoefy1173 unfortunately, out of laziness, I have not 😂 I'm curious and want to know what is interchangeable between them all but don't have the willpower to test it
@@Bl1ndarknes saftey is the most important
Wow congrats I'm happy you finally got a kraken made by squid industries very happy for you keep up the great content :)
3:30 more mass?
Ok yea sure if we are getting scientific hahaha
@@CloneSupport yuppie kraken vs armed shark kraken?
@@polarflaps I don’t have either atm. Also I’m not going to be getting the yuppie one until they fix their screws
@@CloneSupport do you think the yuppie with real kraken hardware would be good?
@@polarflaps I don’t even think it would fit. Yuppie barrels are thicc af and the squid ones are a little thinner
Sound can be improved with Baliplus if you replace the pivots and washers with Squid Industries hardware, I did this with my Baliplus Replicant with USAKM hardware and it made it better. This is usually the rule with any Baliplus, if you just replace the hardware the knife will be usually improved. People do this with the Tsunami clone too.
I would try it out with my kraken but sadly I’ve given the b+ clone back
could you get me the links of the pivots and washers you bought from usaknifemaker?
@@ameikkocotin5625 you can find them on NRBs hardware guide they are the same ones
@@ameikkocotin5625 for kraken clones however, the squid hardware doesn't work I've learned the hard way. stick to usakn
@@CoBrosAnimations01 The "replicant hardware "section?
I watching this video in 2024. and Baliplus still has same problem. Even if it's Kraken in V3. I wasn't sure why happened to get bad bushings in 3 days, so this video was helpful. I would want to replace and fix my BP Kraken hardware someday. and I will buy Squid Industries's balisong someday. Thank you for your informative video
Hey, wasnt around here for a long time, but im going to watch all the videos later. Im really glad you hopped back on the grind :) i love your videos, have a great day
Thanks man! I appreciate it. Videos were a bit shit for a while but I’m back on the grind trying to make some more interesting content for u all
@@CloneSupport your videos were never shit bro, i love your voice and all the content you make
@@letuke2476 thanks man! Supportive comments like this make my day
Maybe the big move is getting a baliplus kraken with a live blade , then stick armed shark handles on that knife , then your armed shark is really armed (and dangerous)
hahaha that sound like it could be a cool idea. Sadly selling the AS kraken but it would have been fun
@@CloneSupport "fine ill do it myself"😈
I heard the handle thingies are different.
Ayyy gotta give u props for adding the intro.......u earned a subscriber
Thanks man! It was actually the idea of someone in my discord when he said "whats kraken my dudes" and i thought there was no way i couldnt put it in
@@CloneSupport that was me lol.....that's why i commented lmao
@@mesniburek1652 Ahh ok, well it was such a good idea i just had to
Now armed shark is making them in 7075 aluminum, i just got one to try . Weight is same as the original
I have tested them out as well, definitely the best on the market atm
that sounds so good with the tape
Oh my god this video is so awesome 😅 such a solid intro lol
Thank you!! 😁 Im glad u liked it
@@CloneSupport haha, of course brother!
The Armed Shark v3 , which is releasing in august, will have 7075 alumm. The current Arm. Shark Zephyr also has 7075 alumm
So I’ve heard! I might have to get a V3 then hahaha
Where can i get this
@@seansidarta2282 it’s not out yet, got delayed. Kotlin said 2-3 more months I think
@@CloneSupport N2 has to 7075 now
I have no clue as I have never owned either, but at a glance this video seems like the real deal is better because of placebo.
I wouldn’t say so. It’s better build quality for sure but the clones are very close. Having owned many many more krakens and kraken clones since this video id say there’s a definite difference in quality and even feel but its getting so close now with the AS V3 that if you didn’t have them side by side idk if you would know the difference
'whats kraken' 😂
I can see you had fun with the thumbnail
Yh ive decided to have some fun making them while I wait for the videos to upload
i feel it would be worth the money if they came with a live blade too for the same price or even a bit more. but 200 bones for a trainer, and it not ti or anything special. its too much. Yes they flip great, but its crazy expensive for what you are getting.
Maybe. I think most of the squid products (except for maybe the live kraken) are a tad overpriced. But I still don’t mind the price and tbh I will probably buy another one at some point
How do you get rid of tap almost perfectly
You need to tune your balisong. There’s different methods for different problems but I cover some of the basics in my tuning tutorial. ua-cam.com/video/je4vARAevWA/v-deo.html
Man got all these knives a made a vid for the team 👏
Ofc ofc. I couldn’t turn down the opportunity to make a vid like this
Ive only flipped a kraken for a few minutes, but it is definetly amazing, wouldve picked one up but i prefered the grip the Alubones
Fair enough. I love this thing and am seriously considering getting my own
@@CloneSupport Ill def be doing that at some point too lol
Can you send the link for the pink one?
Go to my video on it and it’s in the description
@@CloneSupport but that’s the squid one
@@Maza0913 no, I mean go find my video for the pink armed shark kraken and click on the link in the description. Or just go on AliExpress and search “armed shark kraken balisong” and find it that way.
@@CloneSupport ok thank you
so glad i got two live blades of them there amazing
I really want to try one at some point since everyone I talk to says they are amazing
greate video dude
Thanks man! Glad u liked it
does squid industries hardware fit the b+ kraken ?
Yes
@@CloneSupport if i change the hardware, will it become better than the 🦈
@@abizarfa5655 it depends on the bushing that you have. If you also replace the bushing then yes it can be. But if u replace the pivots and washers it will make it sound and feel better but idk if it will be perfect
as much as i want a kraken im leaning much more towards a nautilus. might look into it after i get one
Ive heard good things about both. Im sure whichever u decide to buy u will enjoy it
I suggest you to buy a kraken cause nautilus is lighter and it does NOT have that well of tolerances
@@zloy_flipz im pretty sure that squid industries has a warranty for tolerance issues, and i want it because i prefer the sound over the kraken
@@minty2550 oh i never knew they had warranty ok
Can you review the one krake raken clone also?
If I can get one then maybe yea. I’ve heard it’s not as good as the other clones. Blocky handles and looks different. Doesn’t flip that good
Get a monarch v2 clone the best titanium clone
Ill look into it. For that price tho id rather get the orca or save to buy a prysma
Im probably gonna get the Baliplus
Very good choice, I got myself another recently
Also did you know armed shark is making a krake raken v3????
I saw that yeah. I probably wont be getting one but i hope it solves the balance issue and makes it more like the original
Where did u get this information
@@seansidarta2282 bro, get to know the sellers on AliExpress or just follow them on insta and they put out info on upcoming products
@@CloneSupport thanks a bunch and btw are you looking into getting a glidr some time soon? Some og4 colors are in stock rn and while the arctic and antarctic are in the coming months
@@seansidarta2282 maybe, we will see. Theyre not really my thing and i dont like how any of them look. But ive considered getting an Arctic to beat
Great video dude very informative!!
Glad u liked it!
can u compare THEONE kraken clone to the Armed Shark kraken clone?
Don’t have either atm so no, not at the moment sorry
Ooooo been waiting for this one. Lol one thing I will say is that ay least for me my real kraken trainer came with tap/rub, play, and the screws are pretty close to being stripped. One of them on one side even fully stripped right off the bat. May have just got a bad example but for $250 (I got an inked model) I expected more. I plan to get an armed shark at some point to compare the two and given that the hardwear can be used in the real one I might do a switch as well. Hell may even switch the bushings out since the real one has that tap/rub and play.
Really? I didn’t know the Armed Shark could replace the real kraken. It’s a shame I’ve sold my armed shark clone or I’d try it with my real kraken trainer.
Also sucks about having tap and play out the box, I guess I got lucky
@@CloneSupport I mean that's what I've heard. Not sure I'd try it until I saw a few videos of others doing it first lol. And yaaaa wasn't too thrilled about it. But I'll get it fixed up in due time.
So sad I can't buy any more balis cause it gets cancelled for legal reasons I guess because my country doesn't let knifes get ship even tho it's a trainer
Which country? I thought most let at least trainers. If not could u try shipping the handles and blade seperatly?
@@CloneSupport srry for late reply but Malaysia
Can someone link me baliplus one or tell me the seller name on aliexpres?
Have a look for GoodBFK Store or Extremetribes Store on AliExpress
Did I understand correctly that in your video you recommend buying a kraken from Armed shark more than a kraken from Baliplus?
Yes, if u do not mind the handle bias. It is a lot better quality
@@CloneSupport I don’t understand what is handle bias?…
@@CloneSupport Please explain to me what you meant.
@@MrStepler handle bias is where the handles are heavier than the blade. It changes the way the balisong flips. Most balisongs are handle bias to neutral
@@CloneSupport Thank you for your help!
how about the Yuppie kraken clone?
Got one on the way atm so it will get a review when it arrives
@@CloneSupport u should do more armed shark clones man, heard they are making an original design soon
@@xaviont5673 yea I’ve got an armed shark gale on the way too. Got my eye on their new kraken clone as well
@@CloneSupport im hypeddd cant wait for the new content man
can you use b+ hardware on armed shark or its just too different
They are different, I have checked and they will not fit
I only have the real Krake Raken, and it's amazing. I almost always have it on me. Is that tape on the blades to minimize the ring? Nice video.
Yeah
seeing this video makes me jealous since I love the kraken I might but the baliplus kraken since its the cheapest but its decent and way way better than my mamba clone
The B+ Kraken is a very good option if u want a kraken clone. Flips similarly. The only things that are noticeably different are the sound and the quality of aluminium, something that wouldn’t even bother you if u hadn’t flipped a real kraken. I definitely recommend it
@@CloneSupport thanks for the advice!
One question. Why did you put tape on the blades?
The way the trainer blades are mad makes them have a loud ringing noise. The tape stops the vibration and gets rid of the ringing noise. I had a headache and didn’t want to listen to it
@@CloneSupport ah ok thx for the info. I might do that when mine comes.
Hey ! , my mako has play... , is it ok?
I’m sure it’ll be fine. Play is normal for cheaper balisongs. It won’t break it or anything as long as the screws are tightened down
See me I love ringing!
why are they taped? ive always wondered
It mutes the ringing sound. I beleive i mention it in the video in the sound section
This baliplus the IV version or nah?
Yea it is
Naut versionnn????
Not worth buying the original, just get the armed shark. It’s the best by far 😁
@@CloneSupport if you say so
Nice :o
I’m always first 😂
You sir, are the g.o.a.t
I’m not going to beat the kraken clone to much don’t worry I will look after it 😂
Good good. I hope u enjoy it
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
@@CloneSupport I really love the kraken it’s a great balisong is it worth the money though?
@@rileyflips5322 I think so yes. It is a lot of money, but it’s a very well built balisong that flips phenomenally
@@CloneSupport I saw that you thought about getting the nautilus v2 why didn’t you get that
@@rileyflips5322 I might still get one, but I talked to a few people who own them and they said they’re not really worth the price
I WANT IT 😭😭😭😭
it says the kraken is 300 for me wtf
Click the link in the description
@@CloneSupport I did and it says that its 3450 kr which is 331,20 USD
@@hahaballman wow that’s a lot of money. Maybe there’s a lot of extra tax to pay but I have no clue why. It say $230 for me
@@CloneSupport its the same with other balisongs. I was thinking of getting a triton v2 but it was 220 dollars idk what to do🥲
Second just like I said I would be 😂
Lol
@@_Ping__ 😂
TheOne Clone: 😢
Sadly i just couldnt get a hold one one for the vid. Tho its widly considered the worst of the 3 clones so im not too fussed about not putting it in the video
Wats kraken ma dudes
I got my Bali plus for 26 dollars
Nice!
3 krakens (im clown supoort )
What’s up man! I got another on the way too 👀👀
Nope not anymore
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@@CloneSupport some guy said he was always first but I said not anymore
@@DaGoatee oh ok
@@CloneSupport btw love your vids :)
@@DaGoatee Thanks
goofy ahh joke