Yeah baby! I never saw this one! Awesome! Hey Phillip hope all is doing great we love our 40 foot (2 twenty footers) Rolling Barge! I need to add more barrels to make it uber bulletproof, but it still is just fine as it is! Homeowners on Blue Lake either bought from you after seeing my long dock under the view of Mt Hood or they complained later when the lake lowered in the middle of the summer and their boat was 3 feet lower and their new dock was just as useless as it was the year before. Carry on!
This is a huge difference. At my cottage--which is used maybe 10 times per year, a leaky barrel is a major headache. Pulling the dock up on the beach for winter storage with a full barrel is a pain in the but. But the barrels are much less expensive.
The plastic around the dock float is just used to protect the high density foam which is what is really providing the buoyancy. If you get a hole in the barrel it fills with water and sinks.
We have tons of docks out here with plastic barrels. Most older ones have been retrofitted with them as their dock floats have cracked. At work we dont have the option to use barrels for the pump docks we have. The floats have to be replaced once every couple years. These are in ponds with almost no water level fluctuation, very few days a year below freezing, no large waves beating them, and no boats bumping into them.
Taylor made are flat! the barrels are round.. flat sits better and floats better in the water.. You just can't let anybody over with a claw hammer😂😂.. I've had this Taylor made type, over ten years no problems.. So far..
What happens when you fill the barrel with closed cell foam and the barrel can no longer flex to disapate the energy of the hammer blow? I'm sure it's still stronger than the flat side of the dock float. But i have my doubts that it'll hold up to the claw side of the framing hammer. It's just not an apples to apples until they're both able to maintain floatation when damaged.
The perfect float is drum filled with styrofoam beads,bean bag filling,dock float cases are weak and break,barrels don't. Changed my mind,just found poor in closed cell foam,the stuff is great, pore in barrel let cure cut off excess and glue down tops. Can't be destroyed.
I live on a lake for over a decade, drums ALWAYS fail over time, they leak and can't support a heavy dock while on dry land. In my experience, envirofloat out of Victoria BC is the best made. Period
I got 22 years on Blue Lake with icy winds and freezing waters in winter. You are talking metal drums and they do eventually decay. My 40 foot Rolling Barge dock supported the weight of a Toyota truck that was needed on another property. Later that season the lack of water left 2/3 's of the dock on the shoreline and it was unharmed. My dock pops up above the ice in the winter and is almost impossible to get it stuck in ice ever (incorrect mooring can get it stuck). Rolling Barge dock kits is what you should have. But if you are supporting a floating garage, then those envirofloats are great. Expensive as heck! I am happy with my Yoshida Teriyaki barrels.
I built a dock with barrels eight years ago and now all the barrels are cracking and taking on water from dry rot..... I am now changing them out with dock floatation. I am on the west coast in saltwater not if that matters??
What do you use to seal up the bung holes on those things? I've got a few sitting out in my back yard, but after a few good rains, they fill up with rain water. Do you use Teflon tape, or some sort of adhesive, or something else?
Teflon tape for sure on the threads of the bung caps (as they always leak over time). Then if you get a puncher, just change the barrel. Ensure every year you pump/empty out the barrels of water if they leak. Up here in Manitoba, Canada we experience -20 to -35 winters causing the barrels to crack or break.
Make the drum rigid or under pressure and then see what happens. Your demonstration isn't comparing a barrel as it would be in use, where the dock float wont change when its in the water. Also if the barrel gets punctured, which is definitely possible when its under pressure, it will sink, where the dock float will not.
Even sucured and under pressure these types of barrels are fairly axe resistant, so I don't think they will catostrophic fail, and you can fill them with closed cell foam or something else that is cheap, floats and isn't adsorbant if you don't want to replace leaky barrels.
Would you please tell me what is the specification of the 55 gallon barrel as I don't have same in my country!!! Am afraid to use another type of barrels for floating pantoon which can sink
Well, if the drums fill with water they will sink obviously. If the dock floats fill with water they will be fine as they use Styrofoam to displace the water. I'm using drums as the price is right!
I think you'll be fine, I've had a dock with them 10 ten years.. if you go with the tailor made You just can't let anybody over. And beat on them with a hammer claw..😢 🤪
The money he spent in aluminum to build a frame to avoid the drums from rolling everywhere, you will save it by using the traditional dock float from Taylor Made. I had a dock in Puerto Rico. Made with this drums sun kill them over time because they are made of HDPE which is poor UV resistant, they got bridle for long hours under Sun exposition. I changed to Taylor Made dock floats and they sit right under dock can't even see them under the dock plus I added LED lights, and it looks almost like a levitating platform because the float are black.
Has anyone tried putting some water into the barrels to get the deck a bit closer to the water? I'm thinking all I want is an 8x8 floating swim platform but I don't want it almost 2 feet above the water line.
This guy is stuck in the past yes new dock floats are more fragile but accually last longer also allows the wood to stay on top of them to keep the wood farther from the water to preserve the life of the wood. Also looks way better.
I mean, to be fair, I don’t plan on beating the floats w a hammer, so I think it’s really not that big of a deal. That said, def seems the barrels are stronger and cheaper.
@@wreckedbmwguy9925 All kinds. Docks get banged and bashed and whacked and stabbed and stuck with everything. After seeing this, I'm using poly barrels.
Have a 1 acre pond and would like to leave my floating dock in for the winter. If I were to pull the dock close to shore will those barrels survive the winter. Dock is 8'x8' with 4 55 gallon drums. Really don't want to muscle this thing out of the water but will if the ice will crush the drums.
You are not testing anything important. People rarely fill barrels with foam. Floats and barrels don’t take the hits you gave either of them. What you need to compare is stability in similar structures. Floats are normally much more stable than barrels.
I have a combination of those taylor made and Blue barrels, Try not to let anybody over, and on your DOCK with a hammer😮 😂 And you will definitely avoid this problem🤪...😢 The tailor made definitely have lots more flotation because they are Flat not round.. When mixing them put those on the outside and barrels on the inside..
thank you for the upload guys I'm gonna use the drums for my project. cheers from Belfast Ireland.
awesome demonstration. thumbs up. "there's stuff coming out" lol .
Thank you for that video, now I know the right choice for building a floating dock. Next question, where do you find plastic drums?
Yeah baby! I never saw this one! Awesome! Hey Phillip hope all is doing great we love our 40 foot (2 twenty footers) Rolling Barge! I need to add more barrels to make it uber bulletproof, but it still is just fine as it is! Homeowners on Blue Lake either bought from you after seeing my long dock under the view of Mt Hood or they complained later when the lake lowered in the middle of the summer and their boat was 3 feet lower and their new dock was just as useless as it was the year before. Carry on!
Wonderful just wonderful, I wanted to build a dock but was wondering about the drums. But your example made my day 🎉
The difference is if the floats get punctured they will continue to float. The barrels will take on water and sink.
This is a huge difference. At my cottage--which is used maybe 10 times per year, a leaky barrel is a major headache. Pulling the dock up on the beach for winter storage with a full barrel is a pain in the but. But the barrels are much less expensive.
The plastic around the dock float is just used to protect the high density foam which is what is really providing the buoyancy. If you get a hole in the barrel it fills with water and sinks.
still works out cheaper to fill the barrel with foam
Why do they sell them with and without foam?
Then when the outer shell gets a hole soon you have foam all over the lake
@@danp129 because they are generic barrels. They are not specifically made for docks, they just happened to be used for them.
Some places will fine you for having your foam coming out of a hole and littering the lake
This was originally posted 8 years ago. Curious how many of you built your floating dock with barrels and had them leak/fail on you?
idk whats best but the barrel moves when he hits it taking the shock away, but the float is flat taking the full force so its not fair
We have tons of docks out here with plastic barrels. Most older ones have been retrofitted with them as their dock floats have cracked. At work we dont have the option to use barrels for the pump docks we have. The floats have to be replaced once every couple years. These are in ponds with almost no water level fluctuation, very few days a year below freezing, no large waves beating them, and no boats bumping into them.
@@MrDirtysteve75 I don't understand,so u saying the barrels is better in terms of durability?
The barrels are also round sided and made from thicker plastic. Both of which give them a huge advantage when it comes to impact resistance.
Exactly my thought
Taylor made are flat! the barrels are round.. flat sits better and floats better in the water.. You just can't let anybody over with a claw hammer😂😂.. I've had this Taylor made type, over ten years no problems.. So far..
where is the cheapest place to buy the drums?
With a swing like that, thinking you can put Cole to work in the collections dept :D
What happens when you fill the barrel with closed cell foam and the barrel can no longer flex to disapate the energy of the hammer blow? I'm sure it's still stronger than the flat side of the dock float. But i have my doubts that it'll hold up to the claw side of the framing hammer. It's just not an apples to apples until they're both able to maintain floatation when damaged.
Thank you, Super Dave Osbourne!
Nice demonstration, you earned a subscriber!!!
Did he try to return the dock float and get his money back ?
Anger management course as well?
Thanks so much for your feedback
The perfect float is drum filled with styrofoam beads,bean bag filling,dock float cases are weak and break,barrels don't.
Changed my mind,just found poor in closed cell foam,the stuff is great, pore in barrel let cure cut off excess and glue down tops.
Can't be destroyed.
Probably the only affordable option that is tougher than a plain barrel for similar floatation.
I live on a lake for over a decade, drums ALWAYS fail over time, they leak and can't support a heavy dock while on dry land. In my experience, envirofloat out of Victoria BC is the best made. Period
Fill the drum with ping pong balls :)
I got 22 years on Blue Lake with icy winds and freezing waters in winter. You are talking metal drums and they do eventually decay. My 40 foot Rolling Barge dock supported the weight of a Toyota truck that was needed on another property. Later that season the lack of water left 2/3 's of the dock on the shoreline and it was unharmed. My dock pops up above the ice in the winter and is almost impossible to get it stuck in ice ever (incorrect mooring can get it stuck). Rolling Barge dock kits is what you should have. But if you are supporting a floating garage, then those envirofloats are great. Expensive as heck! I am happy with my Yoshida Teriyaki barrels.
I built a dock with barrels eight years ago and now all the barrels are cracking and taking on water from dry rot..... I am now changing them out with dock floatation. I am on the west coast in saltwater not if that matters??
Awesome video!! You have my vote !
Thanks for showing this. I’m going to get a drum for my project.
What do you use to seal up the bung holes on those things? I've got a few sitting out in my back yard, but after a few good rains, they fill up with rain water. Do you use Teflon tape, or some sort of adhesive, or something else?
Teflon tape for sure on the threads of the bung caps (as they always leak over time). Then if you get a puncher, just change the barrel. Ensure every year you pump/empty out the barrels of water if they leak. Up here in Manitoba, Canada we experience -20 to -35 winters causing the barrels to crack or break.
Most people use silicone to seal it.
Make the drum rigid or under pressure and then see what happens. Your demonstration isn't comparing a barrel as it would be in use, where the dock float wont change when its in the water. Also if the barrel gets punctured, which is definitely possible when its under pressure, it will sink, where the dock float will not.
It will partially sink but the barrel can be replaced easily and cheaply.
Even sucured and under pressure these types of barrels are fairly axe resistant, so I don't think they will catostrophic fail, and you can fill them with closed cell foam or something else that is cheap, floats and isn't adsorbant if you don't want to replace leaky barrels.
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks
Wow I did not know, but if you think about it carefully the drums contain chemicals so has to be strong for safety standards,
Would you please tell me what is the specification of the 55 gallon barrel as I don't have same in my country!!! Am afraid to use another type of barrels for floating pantoon which can sink
They are pretty much an international standard, you can probably find some if you look around they are often used to store liquids.
Who knows where that foam filled float came from?
I think I will buy some of those drums and try and build a boat for logging and swimming
How much does a HDPE barrel cost?
$10 used
Doctor Medkit hmm, makes me want to build a battleship
@@crusadervictor1882 Don't let your dreams stay dreams, only you can make the battleship happen
Doctor Medkit and then I can finally show my neighbours who’s boss. Thanks Doctor Medkit, thanks
Well, if the drums fill with water they will sink obviously. If the dock floats fill with water they will be fine as they use Styrofoam to displace the water.
I'm using drums as the price is right!
Styrofoam doesnt float for ever only a few years. Ice, bacteria or small animal can break the bubbles and it soaks with water over time.
I think you'll be fine, I've had a dock with them 10 ten years.. if you go with the tailor made You just can't let anybody over. And beat on them with a hammer claw..😢 🤪
Very good demo. Thanks
Barrels are cheap and basically industructable so I doubt you will find an advantage to the traditional dock float.
The money he spent in aluminum to build a frame to avoid the drums from rolling everywhere, you will save it by using the traditional dock float from Taylor Made. I had a dock in Puerto Rico. Made with this drums sun kill them over time because they are made of HDPE which is poor UV resistant, they got bridle for long hours under Sun exposition. I changed to Taylor Made dock floats and they sit right under dock can't even see them under the dock plus I added LED lights, and it looks almost like a levitating platform because the float are black.
@@sololetras8169 Aluminum seems like an excessively expensive material for framing a dock with poor rigidity, why would you use it?
Has anyone tried putting some water into the barrels to get the deck a bit closer to the water? I'm thinking all I want is an 8x8 floating swim platform but I don't want it almost 2 feet above the water line.
That's pretty common. It also quiets the barrels when waves hit them.
This guy is stuck in the past yes new dock floats are more fragile but accually last longer also allows the wood to stay on top of them to keep the wood farther from the water to preserve the life of the wood. Also looks way better.
Thanks great info
I mean, to be fair, I don’t plan on beating the floats w a hammer, so I think it’s really not that big of a deal. That said, def seems the barrels are stronger and cheaper.
Well yeah, nobody _plans_ on an impact. And yet they happen. A lot.
@@RobMacKendrick are you talking mainly like bumping them with boats?
@@RobMacKendrick what other impacts are you referring to beyond that?
@@wreckedbmwguy9925 All kinds. Docks get banged and bashed and whacked and stabbed and stuck with everything. After seeing this, I'm using poly barrels.
Have a 1 acre pond and would like to leave my floating dock in for the winter. If I were to pull the dock close to shore will those barrels survive the winter. Dock is 8'x8' with 4 55 gallon drums. Really don't want to muscle this thing out of the water but will if the ice will crush the drums.
I’d like to know as well
@@pkaspar78 left mine in the pond 2 years now and no issues.
@@jaecubed592 good to know, thanks for the reply 👍🏻
You are not testing anything important. People rarely fill barrels with foam. Floats and barrels don’t take the hits you gave either of them. What you need to compare is stability in similar structures. Floats are normally much more stable than barrels.
That’s great guys I have to say
The float in the box never saw it coming!!!!
🤕
You should host your own TV show. Didn't know what a ripoff dock floats were until now
Lay it sideways and hit it against the ground on the side
I did that once with an axe, barely scratched the barrel.
Interesting.
If they only made them in halves the length way!!!!
Unless some idiot is going to hammer my dock floats then sure I’ll get the drums instead
" This Isn't Ideal "
Thank you for this one. I have been wondering about this.
thank you. point well made
The float maker is P..off ..LoL
LoL
His gf cheated on him
I have a combination of those taylor made and Blue barrels, Try not to let anybody over, and on your DOCK with a hammer😮 😂 And you will definitely avoid this problem🤪...😢 The tailor made definitely have lots more flotation because they are Flat not round.. When mixing them put those on the outside and barrels on the inside..