The market determines what you are worth. None of these QBs not named Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen are “Worth” what they are paid. But imagine you have a lot of success at your job, working for pennies on the dollar. You achieve record success compared to everyone else in your field for several years. Then you have a down year due to company issues slowing down your productivity but you still are highly rated(qbr) at your position. Now the company wants to pay you a fraction of what other people in your position are making despite them not accomplishing as much. How would you respond? The 9ers have decided to pay him. He will get 50+. Its only a debate for the media
Bad take from Colin. Very bad. Why are we pretending like this is Madden where you can just turn sliders off and on, up and down and be fine ? NO. That's not reality. Reality is injuries will affect any QB, some to a greater extent. Purdy is still fairly young, so I think we can allow for nuance in terms of just allowing for him to continue to develop and go through some ups and downs. Let's just relax and see it through on Purdy
I don’t care what the 49ers pay Purdy the market is the market it’s not my money I just hope they sign him or trade him or whatever quickly and we don’t have to hear talking heads debate if Purdy doesn’t deserves a career for a whole offseason
@@Zangyaks i know he didn’t say that. moreover no one is making uo the contract situation lol. manz keep talking about how ny kid purdy is but then say he should get paid 40-45 mil. we all know his agent ain’t going for that, which is the reason why we’re having this convo in the first place lmao😂. what the purpose of this video if he agrees that purdy isn’t worth 60 mil. he’s disagreeing with colin so yes he did infact miss the point lmao
@@CommandoFan0408 then he won’t play in the nfl I guess? Nobody is paying him 60 and if the 49ers end up cutting him as a result, it’s even less likely another team would pay that cash.
@ that’s just not true at least not for years. Jalen got paid. Eagles are loaded. Goff got paid. Lions are loaded, teams make it work. And this roster will age out mostly in a couple years anyway so not an issue
I need this extension to get done or for the 49ers to just cut him the day the season ends so we dont have to see the media beat this to death allllll off-season.
Dude, at best Brock is a mid-tier QB. Why are you defending him so hard? The real question isn't Brock's stats surrounded by All-pros, but how good any other QB would do in the same situation. It's obvious that there's at least 10 to 15 other Quarterbacks that would do better or at least as well as him (if not more). A franchise QB can elevate his team under adverse circumstances. Brock's not been able to do that. I don't know why that's so hard to admit.
In all honesty , idk why Brock is even being compared to Kirk Cousins, 13 year nfl vet Brock and CJ Stroud seems more feasible to me, both in they're 2nd or 3rd season.
@@jamessims5240 Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Jalen hurts, Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud, Jordan love, Jared Goff. All better than Brock Purdy
4:06 That's a misleading stat in my opinion, bkuz their 2 top WR and CMC has been hurt all season With G. Kettle as the best pass catcher , TE's usually YAC numbers aren't that high. Or it simply can good tackling defenses after the catch This is comparison are kinda pointless
I think Kirk, Jimmy, Sam and Brock are all the same. Just depends on their circumstances. If they're set up well enough? They do what Purdy did last year. What a Matty Ice did in 2016 with Shanahan. Kirk did in Washington. And Minnesota. This season, im so sick of the injuries excuses!
I actually made a comment on middlekauf's video just yesterday that Purdy should be getting a contract similar to Baker's. That feels pretty fair. 49 fan here. Not sure saying that he has the same playstyle exactly or anything like that. But I think John had nailed it that I don't think that he would go out and get 60 million a year. Maybe I'm wrong. But if people bid him up, then fine, match it. Why do we have to just throw a gorillion dollars at him.
Pay him 50 and he won't even be a top 10 paid guy in three years. Right now, Brock is the 83rd highest paid qb in the league. And people love the baker contract, but if baker was negotiating his contract this year instead of last year, he would be getting significantly more than 33 million a year, especially if he wins another playoff game
@@samuelwallace2782 what does being paid top 10 or 5 or highest paid 3 years from now, today, tomorrow, or anytime have anything to do with it? What other people are willing to pay you is what you are worth. Why negotiate against yourself?
@mrcslance32 I mean that the 49ers should pay 50 without worry. Because even if Brock doesn't play like a top ten guy right away, in 2 years he won't be paid like a top 10 guy. If you think he's a franchise qb, which by every indication Shanahan and Lynch do, don't drag it out trying to low ball the guy who is paid less than his backup and his backups backup
@@samuelwallace2782 that just feels like the "Well, it's time!" mentality to me. Give him market value. If someone else wants to give him more, then match them plus more. Why in the world would you pay more? Why would you go to a car dealership and be like "Yeah, I like this car. I'll just pay $10k more than it's worth because I like it."
I like your analysis, but why do you start the show off with Cowherd? Most of the time it just makes me go to his site so he can actually get the views. You're smart, just do your own analysis, you don't have to hang off his coattails.
@@mrb532 he looked as good in a fair weather game as Brock did in a snowstorm and a rain game? I wonder what the backup would have looked like in a snowstorm or rain when he looked bad without those conditions 😳
@@strawberryreacts9585 Josh Allen looked great in the snow and it wasn't raining in the 2nd half of the Rams game where Purdy threw one of the worst ints of the season
@@mrb532 when did Josh Allen enter the conversation? We were comparing Purdy to the backup. No one logical is saying Brock is anywhere near Josh Allen. Agreed he threw an awful pick in the Rams game. And the backup threw an awful pick in the Bears game in garbage time when all he had to do was drain clock.
4 years 160mil 120 guaranteed, leaving room for us to put talent around him and prove himself with his first big contract ball out prove your a elite qb make some pro bowls maybe wanna chip and we’ll take care of you on a 2nd contract. And if lynch and shanahan would stop making bust/reach 1st and 2nd round picks that would help… build from the inside out put a strong o-line together you see what hurtz and Geoff are doing with the top two o lines in the league…
Just accept it, all your good players are old and broken and the band isnt ever gonna be what it was again. And Purdy is average at best. Would be a backup on at least half the other teams even tho he's "ranked" 11th. Rodgers was ranked ahead of him at 10 and he's washed. So the ranking your showing dont really mean much unless your saying you'd take Rodgers over purdy i guess. Which hey, the jets should dump him so he might be avaliable.
Lol Purdy refuses to hit the check down receiver. Its his fault he is trying to throw deep and is terrible at it. Go watch the pcik he threw against the Rams. He had 3 open receivers underneath
Purdy is a bit of a gambler. He's a risk taker & that is something that he'll have to learn eventually to pull back on. He has a good arm, but not a cannon. He needs to be more cerebral with his decision making
@@mrb532his arm is definitely not weaker than Minshew's or Tua's. It's probably even better than Dak's and Cousins' right now, even with another injury to it. It hasn't stopped him from being one of the most effective, and aggressive deep ball passers since he became a starter.
Yeah I don’t agree with Colin on sports much at all I’ve been say this about Purdy for 3 years he’s been way overrated by 49ers fans that don’t really understand football Shanahan‘s offense is extremely quarterback friendly I mean Jimmy was going deep in the playoffs and to the Super Bowl now Purdy is better than him but to put him on the level of Lamar, Joe Burrow And Allen was just stupid talk solid qb yes superstar franchise changer no
@@matthewmaning4859no other qb had cmc, kittle, aiyuk, deebo, trent williams, elite defense all at the same time! Now that Brock doesnt have everything perfect, he looks average!
@matthewmaning4859 nick's premise is with a healthy deebo, aiyuk, kittle, cmc and the top defense any starting level qb can win with 49ers. He based that on they won with Jimmy and then kept winning with Brock!
@rldebro But they weren't winning until Jimmy G came. Kyle had other QBs and they still stunk. We can say the same for any QB. If you don't have all your horses the team won't perform to the best of their ability. Football is a team sport.
Which is fair depending on your tiers. I'd put him above Tua, Herbert, and dak but obviously below mahomes, allen, Herbert, Burrow, and maaaybe Herbert. He's squarely in the conversation with hurts, baker, love, and darnold. Guys who have shown one or two years of great play.
Lawrence is barely a starter right now. Mac Jones and CJ Beathard have as many wins as Lawrence does over the last season and a half, and they were actually competitive with Houston this year once Jones came in, after Lawrence's concussion.
@@samuelwallace2782 like the reason why I say this is cuz I look at it as tier one is patrick, Allen, Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. Tier 2 Goff,Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Jalen hurts, and Jordan love. And then from that point on I feel like it's a toss-up who you want to have in tier 3 and 4
How can you call a team that had consistently had to play backups, and 3rd stringers, at just about every position at one point or another, a normal team. Normal teams have nfl starters, who could start on multiple teams, even if they aren't a probowler. Terrible, hater ass take Colin. It's textbook confirmation bias
Andy reid was yesteryears Shanahan. My niner fanbase is garbage. Patience. McNabb went to 3 nfc championships and a superbowl in 3 years. Then years later went to a nfc championship in 2009.
The Brock Purdy hate is real. He has a better passer rating than Patrick,
Mahomes . Where he was drafted is literally haunting him.
Passer rating doesn't mean anything, if it did Andy Dalton would still be starting. You can't pay him more than 45M.
@@JoelGarcia-lu3twQBR means more, and he's in the top 10 in that as well.
Which stats do matter? Wins? Because that isn't a QB stat.
I doesn’t matter if you don’t win.
You don’t get paid on stats. You get the bag on wins. Let’s not pretend this isn’t about the money.
@@zackhurwitz9441he’s far from being a top
The market determines what you are worth. None of these QBs not named Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen are “Worth” what they are paid. But imagine you have a lot of success at your job, working for pennies on the dollar. You achieve record success compared to everyone else in your field for several years. Then you have a down year due to company issues slowing down your productivity but you still are highly rated(qbr) at your position. Now the company wants to pay you a fraction of what other people in your position are making despite them not accomplishing as much. How would you respond?
The 9ers have decided to pay him. He will get 50+. Its only a debate for the media
Bad take from Colin. Very bad. Why are we pretending like this is Madden where you can just turn sliders off and on, up and down and be fine ? NO. That's not reality. Reality is injuries will affect any QB, some to a greater extent. Purdy is still fairly young, so I think we can allow for nuance in terms of just allowing for him to continue to develop and go through some ups and downs. Let's just relax and see it through on Purdy
I don’t care what the 49ers pay Purdy the market is the market it’s not my money I just hope they sign him or trade him or whatever quickly and we don’t have to hear talking heads debate if Purdy doesn’t deserves a career for a whole offseason
This 💯
Your not a 9ers fan so I’m sure you don’t care about the team
@@Leeski916what’s your take?
When these “analysts “ don’t like you and you lose ..forget it 😂
PDS. Purdy Derangement Syndrome.
bro you’re missing the point.
purdy doesn’t deserve 60 mil. it’s not about why the niners aren’t winning. lol he ain’t worth it… give it up damn
He didn’t say 60 mil he said 40-45.
Pretty ironic considering he said I missed the point. lol
@@Zangyaks i know he didn’t say that.
moreover no one is making uo the contract situation lol. manz keep talking about how ny kid purdy is but then say he should get paid 40-45 mil. we all know his agent ain’t going for that, which is the reason why we’re having this convo in the first place lmao😂.
what the purpose of this video if he agrees that purdy isn’t worth 60 mil. he’s disagreeing with colin so yes he did infact miss the point lmao
@@CommandoFan0408 then he won’t play in the nfl I guess? Nobody is paying him 60 and if the 49ers end up cutting him as a result, it’s even less likely another team would pay that cash.
Y’all said Purdy was the next Brady 😂 Gotta stand on that now. Bo nix way better and I’m not even a broncos fan.
And is he really comparing a healthy team against a team starting 3rd and now 4th string players
That's what's gonna happen if they pay him
@ that’s just not true at least not for years. Jalen got paid. Eagles are loaded. Goff got paid. Lions are loaded, teams make it work. And this roster will age out mostly in a couple years anyway so not an issue
@ the cap is apparently a problem just for bad teams honestly.
As a Rams fan I'm HOPING that you sign him for $60 million a year
@@garytrujillo4789 😂😂😂
I need this extension to get done or for the 49ers to just cut him the day the season ends so we dont have to see the media beat this to death allllll off-season.
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Dude, at best Brock is a mid-tier QB. Why are you defending him so hard? The real question isn't Brock's stats surrounded by All-pros, but how good any other QB would do in the same situation. It's obvious that there's at least 10 to 15 other Quarterbacks that would do better or at least as well as him (if not more). A franchise QB can elevate his team under adverse circumstances. Brock's not been able to do that. I don't know why that's so hard to admit.
Exactly
Fire video!!
Haha thank you! Anything I said specifically?
I agree brock should be payed 40 million if they do extend him
55-60 million a year, trade him if you don’t like it
In all honesty , idk why Brock is even being compared to Kirk Cousins, 13 year nfl vet
Brock and CJ Stroud seems more feasible to me, both in they're 2nd or 3rd season.
I think 40 mil and longer span is what Brock would be very happy with
Purdy is not even a top 10 qb
Better than Tua, Trevor, Dak, Watson, Darnold, Cousins, Mayfield, O’Connell
@@DMalltheway you lost your mind if you telling me that you think purdy is better than Beaker Mayfield.
@@JoelGarcia-lu3tw he may be 13 or 14 qb in the league
Who’s your top 10?
@@jamessims5240 Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Jalen hurts, Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud, Jordan love, Jared Goff. All better than Brock Purdy
2:59 No Patrick And Andy was forced into that play style,
due to lack of speed at WR
4:06 That's a misleading stat in my opinion, bkuz their 2 top WR and CMC has been hurt all season
With G. Kettle as the best pass catcher , TE's usually YAC numbers aren't that high.
Or it simply can good tackling defenses after the catch
This is comparison are kinda pointless
Dude is a certified Brock hater. Not to mention we have the 10th worst run defense in the league besides injuries
5:17 Brock Purdy can't ask for anything near top QB money
PFF has 12th best QB
On a down year with the team literally dealing with tons of injuries. That’s actually really good. Meaning he is worth top QB money.
I think Kirk, Jimmy, Sam and Brock are all the same. Just depends on their circumstances. If they're set up well enough? They do what Purdy did last year. What a Matty Ice did in 2016 with Shanahan. Kirk did in Washington. And Minnesota. This season, im so sick of the injuries excuses!
Excuses, Brock is fools gold.
5:44 Brock Purdy is not worth that type of money, 30 - 40m range like Colin mentioned
ARE you a niners fan ?
PROTECTION FOR MVPURDY
NINER STRONG 💪
Shoutout to Colin he’s keeping the same energy with every QB gotta respect that… And I like Brock purdy he’s better then many
Is this a joke?
3:30 Wait ? So you just gone switch the narrative to Patrick mahomes 😂?
Other QBs are dink & dunking with probowl WRs. Purdy will show it all the haters going forward.
I actually made a comment on middlekauf's video just yesterday that Purdy should be getting a contract similar to Baker's. That feels pretty fair. 49 fan here. Not sure saying that he has the same playstyle exactly or anything like that. But I think John had nailed it that I don't think that he would go out and get 60 million a year. Maybe I'm wrong. But if people bid him up, then fine, match it. Why do we have to just throw a gorillion dollars at him.
Hahaha I just listens to that video haba
Pay him 50 and he won't even be a top 10 paid guy in three years. Right now, Brock is the 83rd highest paid qb in the league.
And people love the baker contract, but if baker was negotiating his contract this year instead of last year, he would be getting significantly more than 33 million a year, especially if he wins another playoff game
@@samuelwallace2782 what does being paid top 10 or 5 or highest paid 3 years from now, today, tomorrow, or anytime have anything to do with it? What other people are willing to pay you is what you are worth. Why negotiate against yourself?
@mrcslance32 I mean that the 49ers should pay 50 without worry. Because even if Brock doesn't play like a top ten guy right away, in 2 years he won't be paid like a top 10 guy. If you think he's a franchise qb, which by every indication Shanahan and Lynch do, don't drag it out trying to low ball the guy who is paid less than his backup and his backups backup
@@samuelwallace2782 that just feels like the "Well, it's time!" mentality to me. Give him market value. If someone else wants to give him more, then match them plus more. Why in the world would you pay more? Why would you go to a car dealership and be like "Yeah, I like this car. I'll just pay $10k more than it's worth because I like it."
Julian when Brock finally fizzles out in SF...I want you to shut this channel down..but before you do...give us a formal apology.
I like your analysis, but why do you start the show off with Cowherd? Most of the time it just makes me go to his site so he can actually get the views. You're smart, just do your own analysis, you don't have to hang off his coattails.
The back up qb looked just as good as purdy did the last few games. What are you watching?
What backup? The backup only played 1 game. And he didn't look good.
@strawberryreacts9585 he looked just as good as Purdy did versus the Bills or Rams
@@mrb532 he looked as good in a fair weather game as Brock did in a snowstorm and a rain game?
I wonder what the backup would have looked like in a snowstorm or rain when he looked bad without those conditions 😳
@@strawberryreacts9585 Josh Allen looked great in the snow and it wasn't raining in the 2nd half of the Rams game where Purdy threw one of the worst ints of the season
@@mrb532 when did Josh Allen enter the conversation? We were comparing Purdy to the backup.
No one logical is saying Brock is anywhere near Josh Allen.
Agreed he threw an awful pick in the Rams game. And the backup threw an awful pick in the Bears game in garbage time when all he had to do was drain clock.
4 years 160mil 120 guaranteed, leaving room for us to put talent around him and prove himself with his first big contract ball out prove your a elite qb make some pro bowls maybe wanna chip and we’ll take care of you on a 2nd contract. And if lynch and shanahan would stop making bust/reach 1st and 2nd round picks that would help… build from the inside out put a strong o-line together you see what hurtz and Geoff are doing with the top two o lines in the league…
9:51 Yea Buz that's his cap 40m$ is fair
4:54 Can you stay on topic for yo audience? Not about Patrick SMH
Just accept it, all your good players are old and broken and the band isnt ever gonna be what it was again. And Purdy is average at best. Would be a backup on at least half the other teams even tho he's "ranked" 11th. Rodgers was ranked ahead of him at 10 and he's washed. So the ranking your showing dont really mean much unless your saying you'd take Rodgers over purdy i guess. Which hey, the jets should dump him so he might be avaliable.
LOL doesn't have a clue.
Lol Purdy refuses to hit the check down receiver. Its his fault he is trying to throw deep and is terrible at it. Go watch the pcik he threw against the Rams. He had 3 open receivers underneath
Purdy is a bit of a gambler. He's a risk taker & that is something that he'll have to learn eventually to pull back on. He has a good arm, but not a cannon. He needs to be more cerebral with his decision making
@@jctslice he has the weakest arm in the league by far
@@mrb532 nah, I actually think that's Tua Tagovailoa with the weakest arm
@@mrb532his arm is definitely not weaker than Minshew's or Tua's. It's probably even better than Dak's and Cousins' right now, even with another injury to it.
It hasn't stopped him from being one of the most effective, and aggressive deep ball passers since he became a starter.
Yeah I don’t agree with Colin on sports much at all I’ve been say this about Purdy for 3 years he’s been way overrated by 49ers fans that don’t really understand football Shanahan‘s offense is extremely quarterback friendly I mean Jimmy was going deep in the playoffs and to the Super Bowl now Purdy is better than him but to put him on the level of Lamar, Joe Burrow And Allen was just stupid talk solid qb yes superstar franchise changer no
Then why didn't other QBs succeed in the offense?
@@matthewmaning4859no other qb had cmc, kittle, aiyuk, deebo, trent williams, elite defense all at the same time! Now that Brock doesnt have everything perfect, he looks average!
@@rldebro But everybody says its a QB friendly offense. A plug and play offense according to Nick Wright. No he hasn't looked average.
@matthewmaning4859 nick's premise is with a healthy deebo, aiyuk, kittle, cmc and the top defense any starting level qb can win with 49ers. He based that on they won with Jimmy and then kept winning with Brock!
@rldebro But they weren't winning until Jimmy G came. Kyle had other QBs and they still stunk. We can say the same for any QB. If you don't have all your horses the team won't perform to the best of their ability. Football is a team sport.
Brock Purdy very good EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN PLACE.
Brock is mediocre
Cant pay Purdy mediocre QBing more than 40m
Like I said only the 9ers are looking to pay Purdy no other team would entertain this bulshit
I've been calling him "first read Purdy" they last 2 seasons! Bo nix is better than him right now! Jayden daniels is better than him right now!
Brock Purdy is just a tier 3 tier 4 quarterback. I would say he's on the same level as Justin Herbert or Trevor Lawrence
Which is fair depending on your tiers. I'd put him above Tua, Herbert, and dak but obviously below mahomes, allen, Herbert, Burrow, and maaaybe Herbert. He's squarely in the conversation with hurts, baker, love, and darnold. Guys who have shown one or two years of great play.
Lawrence is barely a starter right now. Mac Jones and CJ Beathard have as many wins as Lawrence does over the last season and a half, and they were actually competitive with Houston this year once Jones came in, after Lawrence's concussion.
@@zackhurwitz9441 yes I wouldn't dispute that he's having a horrendous season but at his best he's in the same tier as player as those two guys
@@samuelwallace2782 like the reason why I say this is cuz I look at it as tier one is patrick, Allen, Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. Tier 2 Goff,Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Jalen hurts, and Jordan love. And then from that point on I feel like it's a toss-up who you want to have in tier 3 and 4
How can you call a team that had consistently had to play backups, and 3rd stringers, at just about every position at one point or another, a normal team. Normal teams have nfl starters, who could start on multiple teams, even if they aren't a probowler. Terrible, hater ass take Colin. It's textbook confirmation bias
Those are the kind of caliber players he's gonna get if he gets paid 60M
Dak and the like are looking for their restitution.
Andy reid was yesteryears Shanahan. My niner fanbase is garbage. Patience. McNabb went to 3 nfc championships and a superbowl in 3 years. Then years later went to a nfc championship in 2009.