I dig you guys... I dig the rig!!! I'm being a total goofball.... Glad you guys made it safely.. Thanks for sharing your lives with us and Fare winds an following sea's!!! ✌🏻💗😊❣️
Man I love it when you get technical! You could make a travel channel but I can always rely on you to actually, well, sail? Or talk about sailing? I'm not putting others down but this is so important to me. Any-hoo... I didn't know this about contemporary sailboats. I have a thing for the old schooners, like Baltimore and Shenandoah, et. al., and they have major mast rake, especially the old racers. From what I've read in the old literature, it didn't just look fast but it kept the really big main booms out of the water when heeled. It also added preload so that they didn't need as many backstays because, well, they were stayed by being so far back LOL. Please keep doing what you do! I wish I was more engaged as you are when I was younger. I grew up around water in New England and didn't take advantage of everything it had to offer. Thanks for realigning my priorities, I mean that sincerely. And for all you young people out there wondering if they should? DO IT!
What a great video! It was very, very useful but easy to understand. I don't think I have seen any other videos that were so simple yet so helpful. Thanks for the tips!
This is a first - being hustled by a parrot! 🤣 My mast has a considerable bend in it so I guess I'd need to take that into account when checking the rake?
Everything I have read, and how I have always done it, is to tune the rig without the boom installed. The weight of the boom, and the sail on the boom, are going to push forward on the mast (even a heavy duty mast) and throw off the measurements. Also, the place I usually start tuning my rig is to use the main halyard to measure that the mast is even side to side by bringing it to a point on the side deck. Then I worry about rake while making sure I maintain the mast in column.
That is an interesting perspective, I've not heard of that before. I would think that you would *want* to include the boom, since it will logically be on when you sail. It may have a small impact on the mast, but that presumably needs to be accounted for in getting the mast rake and bend set where you want it to be, no? If you take the boom off, and tension the rig just so (column, rake, bend all perfect), and *then* add the boom back, aren't you then changing the rake and bend from what you intended? Tensioning without the boom would seem to be like trimming your sails for the true wind, and then realizing that the trim is off because you need to trim to the apparent wind once the boat is up to speed.
@@kimyoung230 By removing the boom, you can set the rake without having any force from the boom trying to bend the mast. That way you won't confuse rake and bend.
My wife is keeps asking me about your birds. I think you had said you were going to make a video about them. Where did they come from, where have they been... anything birds. : )
On the hard the boat has to be absolutely level, which we have never had the pleasure of being. In the water you can move weight around to get the boat to sit level while you measure the mast and get it in position.
I've always heard that the hull changes shape while on the hard in a cradle or on stands. The tension and mast would be off once the boat is back in the water and has had time to adjust, with water putting pressure all around the hull and the keel hanging free instead of being supported.
If you don’t have any documentation or drawings for your boat, start with the masthead raked back 1 mast size (for example: if your mast is 8 inches fore-aft, then the halyard with weight hangs 8 inches from the back of the mast). That’s the starting point. If you still have lee helm, come back farther. If you still have weather helm, go forward from there. You want to take it back until the boat sails perfectly balanced with no input from the tiller or wheel (straight rudder).
Ha Ha! The first video in 'years' that didn't 'star and feature' PJ....Oh, hang on it's a tutorial.... and sponsored to boot. I doubt that counts? PJ's motto....'Those that can, do; those that can't teach' (George Bernard Shaw) I'm sure PJ will be back shortly... :-)
PJ was the sail that I had to move to reveal where the mast step area would be on a deck stepped boat. Even though he wasn’t set, he still made an appearance 🤣
If there is a list, that should be addressed even if it requires putting weight on the toe rail to level it out. Once the boat is sitting level, this is quick and easy to sort out.
@@RiggingDoctor could go onto lengthy discussion here. For whatever reason maybe dinghy on one side, provisioning, empty/full water tanks etc, there is a temporary list. It’s safe as houses to stretch a halyard to each gunwale then it’s simple geometry. Fore and aft I totally agree with your take on it. 👍
That is very important. I didn’t mention that because ideally you already have addressed that issue, but it is good to mention it just in case the boat lists a little to one side. Very good point.
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And once again I have more wisdom from the Rigging Docter. Thanks, Herbie.
I dig you guys... I dig the rig!!! I'm being a total goofball.... Glad you guys made it safely.. Thanks for sharing your lives with us and Fare winds an following sea's!!! ✌🏻💗😊❣️
This is a great, helpful video Herby! More like this please. Not that I don't thoroughly enjoy the sailing.
Great tutorial. I wish I knew this when I owned a daysailer and had to guess every time I launched and had to adjust my for stay every time
Thanks for the tips, Herby! It's an extra ration of Spam for you!😄
Interesting tutorial on mast alignment! Thanks!
Thanks again ,im still tryin to balance mine for the wedges and wasnt certain the best way to measure it but youve made it super easy
Glad I could help 😎
Great tips
Thanks, very simple clear instruction, Thanks for passion on your knowledge!
Man I love it when you get technical! You could make a travel channel but I can always rely on you to actually, well, sail? Or talk about sailing? I'm not putting others down but this is so important to me. Any-hoo... I didn't know this about contemporary sailboats. I have a thing for the old schooners, like Baltimore and Shenandoah, et. al., and they have major mast rake, especially the old racers. From what I've read in the old literature, it didn't just look fast but it kept the really big main booms out of the water when heeled. It also added preload so that they didn't need as many backstays because, well, they were stayed by being so far back LOL. Please keep doing what you do! I wish I was more engaged as you are when I was younger. I grew up around water in New England and didn't take advantage of everything it had to offer. Thanks for realigning my priorities, I mean that sincerely. And for all you young people out there wondering if they should? DO IT!
What a great video! It was very, very useful but easy to understand. I don't think I have seen any other videos that were so simple yet so helpful. Thanks for the tips!
Thanks for such positive feedback! Glad it was helpful to you!
@@RiggingDoctor You are very welcome. Rigging is not my strong point so I greatly appreciate these tips!
My favorite type of video, Tutorials!!! ❤❤🇺🇲⛵⚓
great video! I was literally taking notes. Very informative
This is a first - being hustled by a parrot! 🤣
My mast has a considerable bend in it so I guess I'd need to take that into account when checking the rake?
Thank you,appreciated
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Exactly!
These are GREAT tips! Excuse me, I'm gonna run out and check … aw CRUM! I don't have a boat of any kind, not even a gravy boat!
Everything I have read, and how I have always done it, is to tune the rig without the boom installed. The weight of the boom, and the sail on the boom, are going to push forward on the mast (even a heavy duty mast) and throw off the measurements. Also, the place I usually start tuning my rig is to use the main halyard to measure that the mast is even side to side by bringing it to a point on the side deck. Then I worry about rake while making sure I maintain the mast in column.
That is an interesting perspective, I've not heard of that before. I would think that you would *want* to include the boom, since it will logically be on when you sail. It may have a small impact on the mast, but that presumably needs to be accounted for in getting the mast rake and bend set where you want it to be, no? If you take the boom off, and tension the rig just so (column, rake, bend all perfect), and *then* add the boom back, aren't you then changing the rake and bend from what you intended?
Tensioning without the boom would seem to be like trimming your sails for the true wind, and then realizing that the trim is off because you need to trim to the apparent wind once the boat is up to speed.
@@kimyoung230 By removing the boom, you can set the rake without having any force from the boom trying to bend the mast. That way you won't confuse rake and bend.
My wife is keeps asking me about your birds. I think you had said you were going to make a video about them. Where did they come from, where have they been... anything birds. : )
Look for a live video about the birds near the end of the month or beginning of November :)
Know when tuning for racing aft rake is always better for pointing.
Love the videos, dislike the super long commercials.
Hmm. Isn’t it best when yer on the Hard doing these measurements? 😜
On the hard the boat has to be absolutely level, which we have never had the pleasure of being. In the water you can move weight around to get the boat to sit level while you measure the mast and get it in position.
I've always heard that the hull changes shape while on the hard in a cradle or on stands. The tension and mast would be off once the boat is back in the water and has had time to adjust, with water putting pressure all around the hull and the keel hanging free instead of being supported.
@@kimyoung230 I never thought of that but it makes sense.
Can you tell how much mast rake needs 7/8 rig? Mast is 12m tall.
If you don’t have any documentation or drawings for your boat, start with the masthead raked back 1 mast size (for example: if your mast is 8 inches fore-aft, then the halyard with weight hangs 8 inches from the back of the mast). That’s the starting point. If you still have lee helm, come back farther. If you still have weather helm, go forward from there.
You want to take it back until the boat sails perfectly balanced with no input from the tiller or wheel (straight rudder).
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I know! I thought it was pretty good to mention by bird 🤣
Ha Ha! The first video in 'years' that didn't 'star and feature' PJ....Oh, hang on it's a tutorial.... and sponsored to boot. I doubt that counts? PJ's motto....'Those that can, do; those that can't teach' (George Bernard Shaw) I'm sure PJ will be back shortly... :-)
Haha! PJ will have a nice big break while we’re in the Caribbean :)
PJ was the sail that I had to move to reveal where the mast step area would be on a deck stepped boat. Even though he wasn’t set, he still made an appearance 🤣
Must love bird marketing 😅
Haha!!
That’s assuming the boat hasn’t got a list. Safest way would’ve to take a Halyard to each gunwale.
If there is a list, that should be addressed even if it requires putting weight on the toe rail to level it out. Once the boat is sitting level, this is quick and easy to sort out.
@@RiggingDoctor could go onto lengthy discussion here. For whatever reason maybe dinghy on one side, provisioning, empty/full water tanks etc, there is a temporary list. It’s safe as houses to stretch a halyard to each gunwale then it’s simple geometry. Fore and aft I totally agree with your take on it. 👍
You never mention making sure the boat is not listing before you start tuning the mast. Isn't that really important?
That is very important. I didn’t mention that because ideally you already have addressed that issue, but it is good to mention it just in case the boat lists a little to one side.
Very good point.
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