Take Two's CEO Isn't Being Straight With Us...
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
- Microsoft are flailing in their attempts to keep Xbox going, Take Two are being caught out over very sketchy claims.
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I'm not given to trusting companies that call their own products things like "genre defining" and "revolutionary". Pal, that ain't your call to make.
Aye. Never trust someone that presents its products as "quality".
Yeah this is a major red flag
It is a good rule of thumb in general never to take any compliment made by the compliment-ee as anything other than hollow boasting. The only praise that counts is praise that comes unsolicited from an independent outside source. Which also means that the gaming PRESS doesn't get to use words like "genre defining" and "revolutionary" because they're on the take.
absolutely ! Marketing directors and Ceo`s of game companies are so full of bullshit theese days
Depends on the context. In terms of artistic critique? Fair dinkums. But in terms of technology or systems in place? They might have the kahunas to call their implementations genre defining or revolutionary.
If you think the money saved on salaries is actually going to go into making games noticeably better, you're going to have a nasty surprise in a few years when those games start coming out. Those cost savings are going straight to the C-suite and shareholders. Celebrating portions of budgets getting moved out of dev's salaries is a terrible take.
Yup. They are outsourcing for their own benefit, not to grow game development in Poland.
CEO isn't telling us the whole truth?
Gee, you don't say.
Polish Developers and engineers earn a LOT LESS than American ones or those in many other countries. This is chasing a cheap labor pool....
Ah yes, Activision. The king of narrative games. They made MW3 after all, a DLC of all time.
Oh, yeah! They have plenty of narrative games! There's CoD... And CoD... Also CoD... Can't forget CoD... And CoD... CoD... CoD... CoD... CoD... And we really can't ignore CoD!
@@Arclite02 If we try to see this on a positive note : If Microsoft really gives Activision's team something else than COD to do, maybe we'll start seeing nice project from experienced teams... Singularity for example was full of good ideas.
Didn't Activision make Spiderman 1 and 2 for PS1 ?
@@nobody4yThey did the movie games 20 years ago under trayarch so quite a while ago
@@nobody4y reading this out loud in context is insane 😭
Look at Sony, Nintendo and Capcom. Just make good games. Capcom just had record breaking profits for the company and all they did was make and release good games. Who would have thought.
Crazy how a games company releasing good games makes them money.
@@numimio I know right it’s crazy.
Say what you will but gamepass is the future of gaming. Like it or not..
I agree with the duck, man.
Good games make good money, but mediocre games with exploitative monetization make shit loads of money.
Sorta shocked that after all the fuckery you've reported on from game companies, that you'd think any money "saved" by being in Poland would go into the game itself.
Yeah, it will go to the upper Management and investors. We all know this, if someone thinks it isn't that way.... stop living under a rock.
It's still theoretically possible. Besides that if there's any Indies that move over there It definitely will.
Its a bit of a nitpick here, but how much do you expect developers to make. Game devs currently make about half of their non-gamedev compatriot salaries, typically working longer hours and in poorer conditions, what would you then expect a fair wage to be. Its been well reported that blizzard themselves payed workers so little that they couldn't effectively pay for housing in the places that they worked. While we can agree that Washington and California local economies are absolutely fucked for pricing people out, I think there is a position for concern here.
Considering that the average American worker for labor at the lowest rungs is expecting to make near or around 15/hr or roughly 31k a year, should highly skilled technically proficient workers be expected to make this amount? I make this comparison because the average income for a small dev in Poland is around 32,000 a year. Can we expect American workers to do this highly technical and skilled labor at what amounts to poverty wages to be competitive?
I am a freelancer, I do art for video games, and I frequently work with outsourcing. Over the last 5 years I have watched the market for my labor essentially dry up because of this constant push for lower and lower wages to the point which I am very nearly better off working these lowest tier jobs, only hastened by the increase in globalization, and while I applaud workers of places such as Spain and Poland for having the ability to do these jobs and not live in poverty, I find it increasingly questionable that I, a fairly low tier employee see my wages fall further and further, or be axed altogether for those cheaper workers.
I struggle to find it 'good news' that some of the largest gaming employers in the US are slaughtering local workers and studio positions in order to ship those positions to cheaper markets.
*all values are in dollar, USD amounts*
Few places outside the US have the number of talented entrepreneurs within a liberal economic environment that allows them to innovate and execute but individual talent is all over. In other words, if you are not networking and synergising, your job is at risk of outsourcing. If you want to stay in the career, either expatriate to a middle-class life in a middle-income country, or make your own brand through a copyrighted narrative.
As a fellow dev, I'm with you there. The shifting of game dev labour to outside the US/to cheaper places doesn't really solve anything in the long run, at least not for the devs. It really just reduces costs for the studios and allows them to shift more revenue upwards. Earning 70k euros and getting a 36k bonus off a billion USD seller is still less than the cost of a US dev who would command a 150k salary et al; so more of that 1b is going upwards.. And proportionally speaking, devs are probably still spending 50%+ of their salary just on rent due to the cost of living of the cities they're based... or they're living hours out from the studio. While I would absolutely love to see more game development happen in more places, having it happen at the expense of other places isn't it.
I mean, what you’ve raised is less of an issue with the gaming industry and more specifically an issue of economics and housing market.
Cost of living is going up, not just in the US, and if companies can pay someone in Europe a “good wage” by local standards that would be less suitable to someone trying to live in the area of one of their US offices that’s good business sense on their part assuming the quality of employee is equal.
As for the employee, they get a good wage for where they are, the only person losing is the person living where prices are too high to live on that low of a wage, which sucks for them if they want to be a game dev.
The reality of it though is that companies don’t “owe” a job to people in specific countries, so it not being viable to be a game dev in the US due to living costs there is not a game industry issue.
The corporatization of video games has ruined everything.
On top of this, 51% of Americans made $15k or less in 2021. How much cheaper should wages across the US be to satisfy this idea that outsourcing for cheaper labor will increase the quality of products?
The trouble with California is the same problem all across North America and Western Europe. The combination of a bustling creative economy along with rampant housing speculation (thanks in large part or Air B&B), wealth inequality, a commission-based real estate lobby, hostile homeowners pushing against any and all attempts to add density to the region in response to housing shortages, and developers attempting to cash in on building "luxury" homes in these high-value areas have driven rents and home prices into the stratosphere. Even "affordable" areas in the US still rely on Los Angeles incomes to afford Louisiana homes.
Literally this. Moved to California a few years ago for school to break into the industry (graduated with motion graphics and vfx), and housing is atrocious. Virtually impossible to find a place to even rent for a reasonable amount, let alone one a student or someone breaking into the job market can afford. My brother who lives in an area in Texas where the cost of living is a mere fraction of out here, even with the amount he makes with his job barely could find a studio apartment for under $1000 that he could afford. It's ridiculous
It's only going to get worse once companies start realizing it's easier for everyone involved to allow more people to work remotely. If I could move to some Rust Belt ghost town but still make my Seattle salary at my job, I'm not saying I'd go (red-state politics, for example, aren't really my jam), but I'd absolutely move to less-dense, cheaper parts of the state.
And that imbalance of supply and demand is going to be a monkey's paw for those smaller towns as locals, who aren't just basically in Seattle or San Francisco but by Internet and not by car, will upset the local culture and the local politics and everything else, and there be the seeds of conflict or even violence.
Ah yes because adding density to already crowded area makes things better 😂
@@SimuLord except every major company is trying to force people who went to remote work to NOT be remote anymore in a power play for corporate management. A remote place means no job.
@@SimuLord Well, this is the economy you voted for working as designed.
Small note but the last 2 videos have been quieter than normal. YT Stats has this at -8.9dB, the Helldivers video yesterday at -10.6dB and the IGN video on 22nd May at -6.7dB. Random video from ~2 months back is at ~ -3dB. I know you guys are playing with settings now and then so not sure if someone knocked a dial or something or if the videos final normalisation point was set lower.
I appreciate it, average UA-cam content is too loud.
@@MudakTheMultiplier you’re not wrong videos on UA-cam can be quite loud. That said I had the opposite problem with this video. I had Chrome and UA-cam maxed out but at the same time I’m also using an audio mixer to make it so that even a super loud video doesn’t blow out my ears anymore, had it happen one too many times.
That said the issue is down to the normalisation, or lack of it, used on videos by different creators. DaVinci Resolve for example has a default for UA-cam you can use that adjusts to a -1dB (if I remember right) and if everyone was using the same or at least similar normalisation that would fix things being too loud or quiet as everything would be around the same loudness so you just dial in what is good for you and that’s it.
@@MudakTheMultiplier It's easier to control the volume on the user's end if it's more on the louder side than too quiet. If it's loud you can always turn it down to a comfortable volume, but I unfortunately know from experience that if it's too quiet you can only turn up the volume so far before looking into external programs to raise the volume further. One of my old headphones played everything at roughly -20db than normal with everything at 100% even for the loudest videos I generally watch. Had to invest in apps like voicemeter to raise it by an additional 125-150% volume just to hear properly, even higher for quieter videos
@@river559 It's the same difficulty on both ends because most systems will have very little adjustment at the bottom end. When volume setting 2 is double volume setting 1 and I need a 1.3 then I'm just out of luck. On PC I'm fine because I have a small physical mixer. On mobile there aren't apps that I have been able to find that give you better control over the bottom end of your sound, just boost it higher and usually break your headphones in the process.
To be clear, the volume on this video is exactly where I would like it, and I wanted to make sure that my opinion was heard, but that doesn't mean the original point OP made was invalid or anything.
I just wish volumes were more even so I don’t have to fiddle around with volume settings between videos all the time (and condolences to people that sees ads from UA-cam… I remember those always seeming like they’re 5-10x louder than the video itself).
As someone who lives in California and is trying to break into the video games industry as a lowly overworked artist..
Feels bad man.
Feel this one hard
If no one else will hire you just hire yourself! Make your own company! Develop your own games! Don't bother trying to break into the game's industry make your own damn game industry!!!!!!!!!!
I'm dead serious by the way. This is what I'm doing. There's no game companies where I live here in Texas so I'm making my own. Unreal Engine has the best tools for solo devs. Mix that with tutorials from Gorka, Code Cobra and Royal Skies you would be surprised what you can do. Royal is by far the best of the three, short sweet to the point and he will cure your lack of confidence, he's why I don't feel so incompetent. I know there's a video here on UA-cam that will teach you how to make a basic platformer in 1 hour. Expand from there.
And as a little side note. This guy named Rusty put out a video on how to mod Elden Ring and other from soft games and that has been surprisingly helpful. The concept is known as bullet editing. Once you start seeing the art in this you will start understanding the part of programming that IS art in utility.
I knew KSP was dead the second it was 'aquired' by take a number two. Then they released ksp 2 for £50 into early access despite now having the resources of take a second dump and I washed my hands of the whole series completely without buying into their shite. They made their bed, it's their fault if it's made from crap.
anyone else angry that microsoft opened a new team after killing the team behind hi fi rush? oh everyone? good now don't buy any of their game.
Very angry about that. They didn't even have any sort of valid reason to shut them down other than "🤷"
Great idea, don't buy any games from their other studios. What do you think will happen to those developers then? Tango x 10. How many people will lose their jobs then?
Ive already been not buying microsoft games for about 10 years, don't feel like I missed anything
We the people of Texas agree with your statement regarding california.
*Boycott all corporations, stop funding CEOs' yachts and private jets.*
So buy nothing? Buy a farm and make it off grid and ignore the planet? Cause really EVERYTHING has some sort of corporation behind it. Every product, all your utilities, etc. Why are you here? The internet is run by corporations on every level.
Things before speaking in absolutes. Someone made the computer or cell phone you are using. Someone made the software and someone made he hardware. Its not like you're posting here using some complex crystal radio kludge.
How tf do you live?
Not possible without subsistence farming which has been made practically illegal in the west
@@Wislehorn Unlike CEOs, he is likely working his ass off.
@@germanmosca If you think that CEO's don't do any work then there is genuinely no helping you.
MS opened a studio in Poland, where it is way, way cheaper than the expensive studios that were closed in the US and Japan. Poland is dirt cheap in comparison. They can open a dozen studios in Eastern Europe with those same funds. This isn't just California, it is almost anywhere in the US. Austin and Seattle are just as bad, as is Boston/New York. I guess if you move to the Midwest things are less expensive, but then you have an issue finding talent.
And Note that the Polish Housing market has been rising significantly (in part because of the nearby war and refugees) prices increased considerably in the past 2 years and it continues upward. Last year, final quarter according to online Real Estate reports, there was a 15% increase in prices for housing both purchase and rental.
oh boy, wading into economic politics, this surely will end well.
TIL outsourcing jobs is only bad when they go to "developing" nations like China.
Salaries shouldn't factor into the game developers' location; everyone deserves to make a living wage. If corporations move these jobs to cut salary costs, that money 'saved' on paper is not going to make the game any better, nor save the employees from horrid working conditions or the inevitable time crunch. Instead, it's going into the pockets of these CEOs and making them more cutthroat than they already are.
Valve has proven you can function with sparse management, teams can and will self-manage to their own mutual benefit.
valve has made one game in 2 decades
@@doltBmB What's your point? Valve is a multi-Billion $$ company, and its daily operations are FAR more complex than any game studio. Customer accounts and monetary transactions, co-location of infrastructure in ISPs across the globe, legal and licensing for nearly all countries, direct customer support, etc. The fact virtually no one complains about Valve means they're doing a pretty good job.
Do you remember the last time Steam had an outage or was the victim of a cyber security attack? Neither do I, which is a feat in itself, let alone for a management layer sparse company. Meanwhile...all the management layers in AAA studios are so busy interfering with creativity of developers, we have the un-fun gruel that are games today.
The problem is game pass doesn't work. It's not profitable and it trains your consumer base to not purchase games. Sadly rather than acknowledge that and adjust the plan a little, Xbox's upper management lied about it, swept the concern and criticism under the rug, and just pushed on ahead with the plan. Which was fine, Xbox was literally pennies in the MS ledger. Until they spent 76.5 BILLION dollars to aquire Zenimax and ABK. They're no longer pennies in the ledger, they're now a huge fucking chasm that needs to fill itself back in and then some. Except game pass isn't profitable and MS proper isn't playing games. You don't become the literally largest company in the history of the planet by fucking around with a 76 billion dollar investment. Xbox upper management has been incompetent for years, and i think its clear MS proper came in and took away control. Now we're gonna get corpo Xbox. Maybe we'll finally get some decent games out of them. But the first few years are gonna be fucking rough, as we can see, while MS consolidates Xbox.
Hard agree woth you. Game pass* is an amazing deal for customers. But there is an * there for a reason for me. They set themselves up for failure, and there's nothing they can do now that WON'T upset people.
They created a self defeating prophecy because they can't NOT put big games on the pass like cod because they literally made that a selling point. The act of not is a backlash they would rightfully deserve. While they need cod to sell, or else they will further dry up their revenue even worse.
I wish CEOs would take more hits than their employees for cresting these problems. But something you hit on is what I agree with too. Firing Phil won't fix anything because most likely, all of this started when Microsoft spent absurd amounts of money for no return. This whole system is screwed and the lie of good games to distract the gaming populace isn't even there for Xbox crowd to keep them from asking questions.
I truly wonder how Totalbiscuit (rip good man) would feel about all of this.
Someone needs to save KSP2.... and redo it right (from scratch)
We didn't shutter the studios, OK, we boarded up the doors and windows. It's completely different.
_we didn't close the studio. we fired the employees. the studio still exists on paper, duh!_
No, no.. AAA game? You know how those AAA games go here of late!
Thanks for Bringing up the KSP 2 disaster again. and thanks for hawing good microphones :D
When you are saying cheaper cost per person, it's lightly said. I'm a Polish developer. People on forums are willing to work for 600$ monthly.
Is US$600 anything close to livable in Poland? Here in the States, of course, that would be WAY below the poverty line ($15,060 for an individual according to the Department of Health and Human Services, and funnily enough, that amount is actually only $20 less than a full-time 40-hour-a-week job at the US federal minimum wage per year, so that's DIRT poor.)
I can't imagine living on just $7,200 unless I was living in basically a Scandinavian-level welfare state for housing, food, health care, etc.
@@SimuLord It depends, cost of groceries is very cheap, but cost of housing not. So if you are living with parents it's an "okay" money, but I'm also talking mostly about juniors, more experienced ppl are working for large studios or outsourcing things abroad. Then we talking about 3-8k $ monthly.
@@SimuLord It's wilder here in India. The average wage in a city is like $300 a month. That makes buying a $60 game sacrificing a week's worth of food.
@@MeowtronStar That's crazy. Here in Seattle $300 is roughly the median wage for a day. But of course everything's massively more expensive here. You can't even get a studio apartment in a bad neighborhood in the suburbs for under $1400 a month.
@@SimuLord These are the issues of cost of living comparisons, exchange rate difference that mean 1 dollar just goes further in these places then it does in the USA, and difference in purchasing power in different nations(something the AAA space refuses to acknowledge) .
From a quick google search 600 usd equals roughly 2349 Polish zloty (poland doesnt use the euro) while Warsaw monthly cost of living for a single person in Warsaw with rent is estimated to be 8,747zl and without rent its 3,155.5zl. So yeah if your a 20 something year old fresh out of uni living with your parents in a lower cost of living place then Warsaw odds are 600$ aka roughly 2349lz probably doesnt seem that bad of a deal for getting your foot in the door of an industry you are probably passionate about. I'm not saying its okay its not this is classic issue of the gaming industry and many other creative industries that are massively profitable that love to take advantage of passion, but its also an issue of something that makes sense for one person to do but is collectively dumb for everyone to do. It might seem to make sense for you to start at a lower wage to get your foot in the door but when everyone is doing that your just suppressing your own wage in the medium to long term.
None of that is even getting into the issue of AAA gaming companies refusing to understand the difference in purchasing power between different nations and adjusting prices based on that reality. A lot of these companies seem to magically believe people in other nations that earn what would be a middle class wage in that country are earn the equivalent to what an american would be paid for a middle class wage would bet adjusting for exchange rate which is in reality is nothing further from the truth in most of the world.
Doesn’t Poland have subsidies for making games?
You never see this kind of thing with private companies unless they use any type of outside investment which opens the door for bad business. Being an investor/stockholder is another way to be lied to.
That's more to do with the fact that private companies don't have to disclose this sort of thing, and they don't tend to be structured in a way that lets them close down subsidiaries, they just end up with the entire company going bankrupt instead.
Yeah fuck all those devs in California who need to pay for their homes and food and whatnot. Sucks for them I guess.
Didn't you know? Outsourcing for cheap labor is only bad when it goes to China or other "developing" nations.
What do you mean? California has a permanent 5 finger discount as long it's under $1000. That's free food, medicine, etc.
Kind of like all those people the government told to stay at home and don't work jobs or run businesses for a couple years, while Hollywood and Silicon Valley (and government jobs) were all mysteriously exempt from that curfew.
Well I guess they just became "a flyover state" 😂
@@mavencore3557 That's bullshit.
@jasonv.5938 it's actually not. As someone who lives here, you can steal whatever you want and nothing will be done. As long as it's under $999
i dont think any of these huge corpos give a damn about us anymore. probably never did. their customer support being nearly non existent is a sign of that. ive been waiting a month for Blizz to help me with my account. nothing. f this company. been playing since end of TBC and my loyalty, through all of it, is to be ignored.
I say universal regulations and unions for the hole entertainment industry including games. And tech company's not lying good luck now ethics if they had any one to begin with. Hell look at what bobble did with the people they hired. They hired ethics people then they fired them I wonder why.
I love that you have a picture of Strauss without his shirt on.. Just goes to show that in gaming, if there was ever a CEO that could kill the rest.. It would be Strauss, and he might actually do that if given the opportunity sure.
As a california native, everything has skyrocketed in price, we went from paying ~$4.40 a gallon of regular gas to over $5.50 in under 3 months. I think California is killing itself with the crazy price of living costs...
P.S. Silicon Valley has ruined the entire state and inflated everywhere else in the state
Prices and cost of living keep going up, harder to find a job let alone one that pays enough to live off of. It's no where near as good as the media makes it out to be
@@river559 110%, if feels like between housing, gas, insurance, food etc there isn't much of anything left over. If you're making $15 an hour(most of California's minimum wage) in many cases you're still putting purchases on a credit card or what not. the whole pricing structure is so far out of wack...
Will you guys cover the news about the N64 recompiler tool for windows?
Salespeople lie? NO WAY! XD
Society idolizes liars to a deranged degree.
We didn't get a lot of new IP released UNDER Bobby Kotick... We got it DESPITE Bobby Kotick!
Love the Neleus Theme in the background from Mass Effect Andromeda 🥰
100% right on the Cali and specifically Los Angeles area based studio/cost of living thing. Even w both my wife n I bringing in six figures each we still have to rent. Don't move out here, we plan to move out of state in next few years where buying a home doesn't require a half mil+ down payment. Wouldn't surprise me if some studios start moving out of this area and to some locations outside the city
Reminder that Schrier sat on the allegations about ActiBliz that blew the fuck up.
It's good that Activision is getting to the point where they are doing things with IP now, Kotick was really bad for IPs in general. He wanted an easy ride, no innovation, maximum profit, screw the employees.
I'm happy Activision has a chance for something new...
But holy hell if that isn't salt in the wound.
Was not sekiro developer by fromsoft and published by activvision. Or do i remember wrong?
I honestly think Roll7 lost the plot after OlliOlli 2. That game was so much more refined with a cooler style. The 2.5D perspective overcomplicated the environmental readability and put too much emphasis on navigation over the core gameplay concept of running tricks and maintaining momentum. The Cal Arts aesthetic and tone completely neutered the cool factor. The first world was reduced to a handholding tutorial that got in the way of the simple, arcade style appeal. The character creator aspects just felt like checkbox stuff thrown in for mass appeal. Even the music was a big step backwards from esoteric, modern Thundercat style funk and diegetic chill that was perfectly cohesive with their impressive irl sound capturing, into more generic modern retro stylings.
Maybe pressure was put on them by the publisher to go "AA" over 2D indie style... maybe it's where they wanted to go. I don't know, but they lost me as a big fan of OlliOlli.
GTA 6 will be on PC in 2026, a year after the lesser console versions, it hurts.
Pc and Nintendo. Horseshoe theory. Suffer together
The PC port will probably suck ass too at first
@@uberbyte7467 Tis the way of things. But hey, when that happens and (in theory) the Switch 2 port also has issues, PC and Nintendo players can agree on something for once.
Makes a new studio and the last few they started are all in development hell for years. Looks at perfect dark they probably should ship some games
thing is California has massive infrastructure on top of the insane supply and demand effect of being 'in town' at the fromer center of culture and innovation. One would think turning a desert into a agriculture and population center would be a bit inefficient. I live in the state to the north were spillover of that demand has driven everything up here too. Infrastructure differences are night and day. My state is ran like a colonial fiefdom than a modern state. So it's about picking your poison. In this state's capital we can't even afford paved roads. My friend from california told me they would rip up and replace brand new roads if there was a slight mistake in planning. Here its a patchwork that gets more dysfunctional as the population rises. That said a lot of movies and shows are made in canada now for a reason.
Strauss Zelnick: Not technically lying; still an asshole
"Strauss Zelnick" sounds like a name Groucho Marx would've come up with for one of his characters.
We aren’t firing anyone, we are just reducing the budget.
Doesn’t that mean they have to fire a bunch of people thereby you are in fact firing people.
No, we are just reducing the budget, we aren’t firing anyone.
This dude has watched office space too many times. I’m betting he was laughing all the way to his pool of bonus money saying we fixed the glitch to himself.
Bubbles are a hard shape for pollocks
California is a mess, I have a friend there working 60 hours a week and still struggling to save enough to escape California. It doesn't help that I worry about his safety daily because he lives in LA.
That's a very good point on budgeting, a budget of 500k outside of the us will have like 80% of the money funding the actual game as opposed to 800k budget and half of that going to fucking landlords lmao.
Ah good ol' "technically true". Always looks good, that 🙄
Im glad California gets less money. But just bc they switched to Poland, doesn't guarantee any level of quality.
Two of my favorite games (Witcher 3 and Medieval Dynasty) were made in Poland, so they've got talent there.
Soap trusted you!
Less California, really really good..
Me: Pal, that also applies to Poland lol
Blizzard HQ is where? 😂
Devs in Poland will cost less than in USA (and especially than in California), that's for sure. Larian, now official Activision studio. Good news for Pole devs :D
What I fear is race to the bottom. There is a limit of how low a salary can go and where you can offshore your work.
And my favorite passes.
3 un-skippable ads, disliked.
"high quality independent games" coming from the company that owns Rockstar, also I don't think you get to compliment yourself by calling your product "high quality" - that is for the market to decide and, judging by what happened to KSP 2 I think the truth is evident...
Yeah good luck with Nintendo and the other one's. How about looking into street fighter 6. Just make sure you have a good connection for street fighter 6 and have real money to burn.
I’ll care about Microsoft / Activision / Blizzard when they announce a Black ops 1 or 2 remake 🤷
An tell the country becomes the next tech company. That will be good no ethics no unions no registrations. Like my unicorn that shits out money.
No, I don't like jobs being outsourced from America.
I just dont care about xbox anymore i haven't touched it so long I'm surprised it isn't buried in dust .
RIP KSP2. It's their fault that they couldn't handle their own code. Yes it is hard. Microsoft won't be helping any.
We all know what narrative they want to push.
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The problem with California is not inflated prices. The problem with California is inflated egos.
California was always an iffecient place to make videogames.
Any business it seems. Sacramento is a disgrace
Not really early on it was a mecha and not a bubble. But that’s where the tech industry/us gaming industry grew up in no small part. If gaming and tech migrated somewhere new and a new mecha is born it will become a California in a few short decades. Sorta impossible to have so much money without hellish runaway.
@@soaringspoonremote work
@@soaringspoon Early on people mnde games in their garage with a couple computers.
Times changed quite a while ago.
@@soaringspoon *Mecca, not "mecha"
The world needs to stop acting like lay offs aren't a part of business. Yes it's fucked up but these things happen. Pullb your self up by your boot straps and it's time to move on find a new job in the mean time and if it's not the one you want work till you find the one you want or start your own. Bellular I feel so bad for you. It feels like You got into buisness and never thought about the chance you would ever have to do that... it's a risk you have to consider. Youre naive in that sense. As much as lay offs sucks and I feel for those impacted. It's apart of the world get used to it or you will be swallowed by it eventually
Na prior generations cared about building something. Nowadays people in business have the mindset of locusts and they are just as useful to society.
Ha remember when we thought they would fix Bethesda? ... seems Bethesda just got worse , and they kept that Disingenuous lying rogue.. hobbit.. Todd Howard employed , thank god im pc and not forced to only play mainstream games
Depending on how things go in the next few years, Poland may be the place people want to be the least, but good luck to us all in that case.
If the third big one comes it won't stay regional.
Switzerland (to the rest of Europe): "I told you so!"
Hot take, probably the devs they fired were actually not that good at all
I'd love for every triple A company to suddenly turn around overnight and say "yeah we're going to make good games again" but somehow I doubt it. Until quality improves I cannot say I have any sympathy for this downsizing, if anything I'd prefer they fire EVERYONE...
Kind of a shit take from y'all. Even purely from a "value argument," $70 budgets mil in the US are almost certainly going to just be slashed to accomplish roughly the same thing so the CEO can afford a third vacation home from the profits. "Outsourcing is good because California is too expensive" is pretty rich from someone who lives on an island that's smaller than California, god forbid someone has friends or family they want to see regularly.
For real. It's too expensive because no one is paid enough to properly live, on top of the fact that the programs in place to make it easier for those nearing or in low income is slow af and a battle to even get, even AFTER you already qualify (looking at you regional center)
I see the light at the end of the tunnel for a sekiro sequel. Hands down the best game by fromsoft.
As long as it’s poland, its fine
Xbox fan boys might attack you & call you a pony for stating the obvious & what everyone who isn't a console Stan is thinking lol
I live in California and I'd like the jobs to stay here thanks. Let's not advocate for people in the US to lose their job.
Nationalist nonsense. We're all just humans, buddy. We all deserve to eat and have shelter. Why should Bellular place US jobs above other countries in importance? He's not even American, he's English.
Move to a different state
"They turk err jerb's!"
Literally uprooted myself from my support system from Texas (which is a very big and scary thing for someone who is autistic like myself) to attend a school that i graduated to break into the entertainment job market. I'd also like for the jobs to stay here, and be properly paid for it. It pisses me off that I spent all this time learning skills that are in high demand, and are supposed to pay extremely well, and still struggle to get even an entry level job anywhere.
Good luck with that. I live here myself. But in most cases it is not going to be feasible to make games cost-effective in this state, just the cold hard truth.
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I think GamePass is getting a little out of hand tbh. I sense a potential disaster in the future.
Understatement of the century. It's been out of hand, and has been crashing for years. The snowball has rolled far down the mountain and is picking speed fast
Kills Bethesda studio?
Opens Activision one
Wait Microsoft based now?
Bad narrative games written by clueless hipsters in west coast America or worse Toronto , will be so cringe ...guarantee it
yup
At this rate, if they want their writing to "subvert expectations" they should make something good. Because we're all expecting it to be crap.
Killing a studio doesn't mean a whole lot. If Microsoft owns the IP for a game, it can fall under any studio. Great chance that most folks from these closed studios have been relocated to another studio. If 2 studios were making similar games, it's makes sense to close the studio and integrate the teams. But at the end, it's Microsoft business. You suppose to just enjoy the games or not.
Wow, what a hot take. Microsoft bad?? This is all new info bro
Also closing studios in areas with high costs and opening in an area with lower costs, so crazy and never before done in any other industry
Classic overreaction. Wait for June 9. Xbox will be in a great spot. Bringing CoD to Game Pass will be resolve so manh outstanding convers, as will new game announcements.
Hope you are right. I mean, I always hope for something neat in a Nintendo Direct, why not the same for Microsoft?
...Though I guess I do have a Switch 2 (for no better thing to call it) waiting if its not impressive. Not sure what x-Box and Microsoft have, Elder Scrolls 6 is a bit far away....
Microsoft/xbox is the enemy of all games and gamers ❤
Delusional
@@TheDayMang how do u honestly have faith in companies. instead of making fun games their just making draining ur money simulators
Like it or not Gamepass is the future of gaming.
"Like it or not, a poor business incentive of losing money from the developers by teaching the average populous to not buy their games, while adding on subscriptions on top of subscriptions. They will own nothing and they will like it." - OP, an ignorant memeber of the general populous
Boycott all corporations, stop funding CEOs' yachts and private jets