The Siemens Midlife Project
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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In this video, we enjoy an exciting time for our Siemens fleet. This video discusses the various upgrades from 2021, dubbed the Siemens Midlife Project. It was an icy winter solstice morning. Hope you enjoy the video!
The upgrades are making the Siemens fleet looking much better, especially the PIDs!
The rectangles on the lower edge of the cars is a refelctive tape so the sides are light up by car headlights when crossings
Thanks for explaining!
What would be the point? If you're driving a car and see a train with big carriages, interior lighting and loud clackety noises passing in front of you, surely the last thing you'd notice would be little reflective rectangles.
@@normandiebryant6989 They run with the lights off when not carrying passengers making them harder to spot side on.
The Siemens trains are very quiet and smooth and very pleasant to travel in. The huge problem with them is the hard seats. After about 20 mins of travel I find them almost unbearable. As mind blowing as a 3 carriage train is, the passenger seating comfort outweighs it I think. I hope the improvements include some more padding. Interesting video. 😊
I hate the ew livery, I like the old X'trap and Siemens livery with the Metro branding at the front and rear of each 3 car set, it looks much better in the old livery.
Cheers
The Siemens is the best out of all the trains in Melbourne. The seating provides HEAPS of shoulder and leg room. It's as though they were designed for Australian passengers and not small people with a 35cm shoulder width. The straight vertical 90 degree wall makes leaning against the window comfortable unlike the other trains in the network where the walls are angled inwards.
They are the best trains to ride on, smooth ride and big seats big +
Seat padding is very thin though
Unless you're in a wheelchair and then have a train that's above the platform even when there's a raised platform ledge.
I just wish they had six doors per carriage like every other train on the network instead of four.
I thought we were all Australian people. I had no idea that you had to be a certain size to qualify
The rectangles underneath the main body are Reflector Panels, which are for reflecting Car Headlights at night. They're a safety feature.
Thanks for explaining!
I’m just always super impressed with the cleanliness inside and outside of our trains these days
Until you get on the Frankston or Scumbury line...
We need an xtrap upgrade!
replace their suspension
The display showing the full train line, final destination, and upcoming stations between stops is incredibly inratable, especially during rush hour. Imagine being on a packed train, squeezed in the middle of the carriage, trying to read this information. It's practically impossible. It becomes difficult even for people with good vision , let alone those with low vision or visual impairments. For passengers to navigate their journey smoothly and safely, particularly during busy transit times. Improving the readability of these displays would greatly enhance the overall commuting experience, ensuring that everyone can travel with confidence and ease.
Great video! The Siemens are my favourite train in the fleet, great to see them getting some love
Thanks!!
20 years already man I'm getting old
I still remember when they were brand new with just a white lively with mtrain
Time flys
I’d better go see the station name seats one last time then! Great video mate.
Cheers
I always enjoy riding on the Siemens, so smooth and quiet. Probably an ideal version for them in my opinion would be the current PID and seating upgrades but revert the announcement back to the original and more natural tones. I find them more appealing instead of the current computer like announcement. And for pete sake please add and in the change here announcement.
Metro should be giving x'trapolis trains the blue ptv rectangles seating pattern and new stickerss and upgraded passenger information displays like that the Siemens are getting but no still 20 year old connex patterns
Ik why haven’t they done that to at least a few sets?
They'll get done after the siemens fleet, it isn't like they can just do all of the trains at once. The x'trap fleet is generally newer anyway, so it makes sense to do it in that order no?
And while they're at it, replace them with seats wide enough for humans perhaps?
Great video explaining it in detail :)
Thanks!!
My one of the favourite metro train .
One thing in new announcement for example when they said change here for upfield and craigiburne services, upgrade one didn’t say AND .
I like the random Sydney Trains chime on the announcements lolol
The funny thing about this is that I saw a refurbished Siemens train two hours after arriving in Melbourne from Sydney. It happened while I was waiting in Spotswood (Werribee and Williamstown lines).
That's crazy. 😮
Was waiting for this video, I rode one of the siemens trains with those new fancy PIDs the other week. It always bugged me that they were just using the high-res colour LCDs for monochrome text, so the detailed route map was a welcome change. Definitely makes them feel modern inside even though they're 20 years old now. Looking forward to what they do with the x'traps next, especially since they have those external displays on the side like the HCMTs do, although they're already nice and bright unlike the old siemens flip displays were so are in less need of an upgrade.
The new internal and external displays are a welcome change. My assumption is that they were rolled out with "interim" display designs and then updated based on feedback or once the designs were finalised. I think the initial PID design, while having great visibility, was pretty grating with poor punctuation and grammar (title case - yuck).
The sketchy reliability is very interesting to observe as LCD displays are so reliable and common.
Another thought - I think these are being gradually upgraded with LED headlights, too?
It does appear some have been changed
The older technology of the pids was perfectly fine all they needed to do is write a few more lines of text for each line and it would've been equally as good and far cheaper
They had issues, and likely life expired. Parts availability and support likely was a factor as well.
I thought Siemens were gone on the craigieburn line but I caught one on the 24th June from Pascoe Vale to moonee ponds and it had all the new features
What! they come so often
Not yet
I quite like the Siemens they quieter then the Xtraps and Comengs, But I don't travel on them often :(
Hot video so far!😁
Even if the upgrade is better. It is so annoying that now the service is announced every single time after the train departs a station.
I was told months ago apparently Comengs more specifically Alstoms comengs are receiving a new livery as well once the Siemens are done
got to keep them looking fresh i guess.
I still prefer the older announcements and dings.
ive seen more sets recently where there is a double upgraded set (with all the yellow markings and such)
It seems like they are more common now. Nice!
Naturally i had to watch this while on a seimans train. Still has stations on the seats.
Never rode a N Set club
I saw one of the siemens with no metro signs and it was a williamstown or a werribee
The new desto's are horrible in the day. Literally not fit for purpose. I dont know how that display got approved.
The ramp buttons, weren't they always there?
But thanks for the video. I dont get the Siemens much so I'd actually missed some of the changes, but my interest is definitely geared towards the PID/desto/tech side.
i saw lots of these btw when will comeng stop going on sandringham line or cross city group
Comeng sets are now no longer scheduled to operate on the Sandringham Line
Anyone's guess when. Prob not for a little while
I saw a PID saying “Aircraft” even though trains don’t terminate there. They actually terminate at Werribee!
Nice find
@@StrayaTrains Thanks!
ok so they upgrade the seats on the siemens but only add a big yellow stripe around the doors on the xtrap as if people are stupid enough to not know where the doors are
I still don’t understand why the siemens got that annoying chime as part of the upgrade when no other types have it
Agreed
I liked the old seats 😢
Still time to see them!
@@StrayaTrains Doesn't help that i live up near shepparton.
@@StrayaTrains i was in melbourne this week just gone and i saw one
Had to laugh at the display showing the JSON instead of the plain text. Your think they’d have used a different variable or something to make it backward compatible
9:31 READ THE HTML, and if you can't, TOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve always thought Siemens trains were underrated, by far my favourite in Melbourne
The PID design still being underwhelming and inconsistent, and the seat design do age like milk, changing cushion doesn't help at all, not a big fan of these changes
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Why would they remove the metro from the livery?
I think it is so if PTV want to change the operator quickly they don’t have to do a full on livery change - they just cover up the “operated by metro” signs.
Something to do with PTV
to be honest, I think it’s better to remove the ‘metro’ in the livery so Americans wouldn’t make fun of us about not having an actual metro train or system.
@@davidlian5177 If anyone is making fun of us, it is the Europeans since America’s train networks aren’t that much better
I'm personally not a fan of the new tones. It kinda reminds me of what the Victorian Government used for Covid ads and announcements.
Otherwise, the upgrades have all been for the better
Wwwwwwwwwwwwelcome to Straya trains
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I hope these trains never go
Replace the Siemens with the Tait Trains lol.
Hate those trains.