Why Political Advisors Are A Target For The Media
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Welcome your comments on gambling. I work as a debt adviser. I find that when people pause or cancel gambling accounts they are bombarded by communication encouraging them to gamble, offering deals. But some of the messages are emotive saying things like, 'this is your lucky day', suggesting that the answer to all their financial problems is a spin away, have this £10 credit to win your fortune. This is a real psychological pull to those who can least afford to gamble. They should not be allowed to self regulate - because it's not working and causing real social problem.
"Why Political Advisors Are A Target For The Media"
Because after Alistair Campbell the general public learned to hate advisors etc etc.
I always laugh when I hear the phrase 'Gamble responsibly.'
You talked about the divide between men and women, changing roles, and young men moving further and further to the right...
I've long believed that money and disenfranchisement is at the route of this problem. Women can still have children if they want and have become more vocal about rights that support them. Whereas young men, struggle to get decent jobs with meaningful wages. So they struggle to support a family, buy a house, have fun, and feel like there's is a worthwhile future.
No-one with something to lose (something to live for) is going to support a right wing nut case, worry about immigrants or cause trouble. I don't know how to fix this but 50 years of neoliberal economics has led us inevitably to this point.
As per Rory - yes, absolutely. No MPs should take freebies - ever. Just make a rule. And yes, hard regulation again for all gambling
So easy to say...once you're no longer an MP.
Be interesting to go back and look at what he was sucking up when he had the chance.
So Starmer raids the shop then shuts it for good?
@@GrimUpNorth_yt the fact he's doing this podcast with the person he's doing it with shows he has no principles.
11:04 As a long term Labour supporter I consider New Labour’s behaviour on gambling as their primary failure. I know most people would say Iraq but for me it was the obscene spectacle of them promoting a Super Casino.
Primary failure? Over Iraq, mass migration or crippling the NHS with PFI debt.
@@nickt4200 hmmmm. PFI might be a bigger failure. Iraq was never the hot button issue for me. I welcome immigration as we need someone to pay our pensions.
It was certainly a disaster, but primary failure? No, that was definitely Iraq.
That super-casino never got built.
Try harder next time.
@@FranzBieberkopf true but they relaxed all the laws around betting and advertising.
Political advisors are usual young, out of Oxbridge and absolutely no idea about the real world
I personally have a great distaste for the view that we “need to figure out what young men are for”.
I think the issue is less that men have no purpose nowadays, and more that they are being called purposeless or useless or even dangerous a lot more.
I heard that sentiment quite a lot: “we don’t need men” or “society doesn’t need men”. I strongly dislike statements like that because it somehow predicates that a person only has a place in society as long as they serve a purpose or have a use. That is the same thinking that lead the third reich to euthanising disabled people.
Men don’t need a purpose any more or less than women need a purpose. What we need is to stop calling out men in these heinous ways and start fostering self-confidence in young boys so that they can determine their own purpose
Some young men need to be given purpose. We're not all capable of figuring a path out for ourselves. Same as some people need religion.
@@sluglife9785 I’m not saying that individuals don’t need a purpose, I am saying that we don’t need to prescribe a purpose onto an entire gender.
Also, I believe that a lot of those people who can’t find a purpose are exactly the ones who were never given the necessary self-assurance growing up. It’s a vicious cycle.
Yeah I think this is right, most men don’t care about boisterous figure like Farage or Tate. To most people they’re an exaggerated joke.
It’s more just about feeling wanted - it’s hard to say that the culture knows how to ‘want men’, or the male identity as things are changing.
I think there is a lot of misandry about
If our society genuinely believes that role models and representation are important for women then why is the very low percentage of male teachers in schools not addressed as a problem for boys.
100% agree its wrong for the major football podcasts to constantly plug the Betting companies who sponsor the shows. It wasn't ok for cigarette companies to sponsor major sporting events and music festivals so it was banned.
Before giving MPs the money for foreign travel give us a decent pension.
Was the Tories triple lock not enough for you? That's one of the huge blights on the budget that's eating into our funds for public spending.
How much do the UK pay for other foreign officials to visit our country?
Too much, largely for posturing and parties at tax payer expense.
Rory for PM
He is dead right about banning freebies.
He'd be as bad as Starmer
@@clivet3252he wouldn’t take freebies 😂
That’s long gone.😊
Rory should read a few excerpts of "Busking With Bagpipes" on stage.
In business, most people are constrained in the gifts they can receive. Often nothing more valuable than a thermal mug. The possibility for even the *appearance* of corruption is to be avoided. No reason not to have the same rule in politics.
Any gift becomes a gift to the state: auction 'em off with procedes to the treasury.
Glad my question about Young Men and AfD got picked.
A few points here: There is also increasing data that young men atleast in America are becoming more religious while women seem to be becoming more a-religious with time. I do think that just bad economic situation is not the major reason that young men are moving right.
As for authoritarianism and strong men love a theory that I have is that we now have a generation that has not seen major war and conflict which is what let liberal democracies and political thought flourish from the 90's onwards. And that the importance of peace preservation and civil democratic discourse has been lost due to these long lasting peace times. There seems to be an amnesia of why we have liberal democratic systems and what is the cost of not having them.
The UK Gov need to break up the UK press. It is now proven to be an existential threat to the UK to have a completely monopolized and foreign owned media.
Maybe just better Ofcom regulations? You’re sounding a bit authoritarian here 😭
@@owentill been there done that. Zero foreign ownership and no more than 5% single control. By readership / exposure.
@@owentillhe didn’t mean that the state would control it, just that one company wouldn’t control all of it (i.e. split them into different companies)
The success of Brian Walden interviews was to get on the side of the interviewee actually got more out of them.
AC Campbell on the previous podcast accused someone of leaking information then found out it was phone hacking. But he says not taking the Internet seriously in the start was his biggest mistake shows you the character of the “”man”.
AS a therapist I'm all for authentic emotional display, and anger is a very useful emotion, but, unfortunately, when we are in strong negative emotion our rational brain switches off and we go into survival mode (fight flight) so not useful in a formal environment like an Enquiry. I do a lot of couple work, nothing gets resolved in a fight, that's why people who don't sit down and work stuff out calmly keep repeating the fights.
I'm more inclined to trust someone who admits a mistake and changes their mind based on new evidence, than someone who absolutely refuses to change their position no matter how unreasonable that appears. I would imagine most reasonable people would feel the same. No-one likes an idealogue.
The gambling is a blight on a lot of people's lives and having adverts telling them to take a break or put a limit on is in most cases ridiculous as it is like trying to tell an alcoholic not to drink or don't have as much. As in many cases it is about profit and I'm not saying some of the companies do not care but the money they make will always be the overriding factor not people.
Alistair agreed that gambling is out of control, but didn't mention that it was Blair's government that heavily deregulated the industry.
Classic Alastair double standards
@@jamj59He obviously wasn't responsible for policy at the time, but I'm disappointed he didn't explore the causes of the explosion of the gambling industry, and dismissed the question quite quickly.
Same with banking. Blair/Brown massively deregulated banking, that went well too.
Campbell and hypocrisy, well I never.
The UK dominated the worldwild gambling industry at the time, america I believe signed a law to ban UK companies from operating gambling in america because we had the whole american market.
Gambling advertising on sports should be banned.
Love your podcast Romeish Dias, britisher living in Sri Lanka 🎉
Why does Alastair have such a problem with the idea of a law banning ministers from accepting gifts? Is it just because he doesn’t want to insinuate that accepting gifts is ever a bad thing?
It occurs to me that the only way we can do away with this constant questioning of how much accepting gifts influences the actions of politicians, is to ban the whole thing. Considering it serves literally no purpose other than to buy influence, there’s really no excuse for allowing it at all.
Maybe he enjoys free gifts??
He’s corrupt and wants to continue normalising corruption. There’s tonnes of corruption and brown paper envelopes in media. Perhaps he’s more to gain keeping the status quo.
The problem with politicians taking contributions or freebies is that even if it's well meaning it is the perception it creates. People/ Governments etc are not always doing it just to be magnanimous, in some cases they want something in return and there have been enough examples over the years of them getting that.
If all addiction clinical therapists(public & private) employed or running such groups were put under the 'sunk cost fallacy' -microscope they would be shut down much quicker than HS2. 'If it saves just one' is not a good rubric.
Why does Rory keep grimacing? Looks like he's holding in a bowel movement 🤣
9 days until Starmer's first 100 days in office. Looking forward to the media's response/assessment on progress to date...
9:25 I am an intern on capital hill, I am not allowed to receive a gift greater than $50. Why is it that Starmer’s government and Eric Adams alike can receive such generous gifts when I have to declare any non-family gift I receive?
I would suggest this is a lie, as you don't seem to able to spell the place you claim to work.
Civil servants aren't supposed to accept gifts but politicians make different rules for themselves.
No good deed goes unpunished.
And sooo many bad deeds do.
If you guys truly want to examine the masculinity crisis you need to interview Richard Reeves.
Wonder if Rory read the London Review of Books review of the Diaries? I recall it said there are two gaping black holes throughout that show AC was rather less honest and transparent than he claims: (a) nothing about the author's many briefings/leaks putting the knife in the back of those of a different view to No 10/AC or (b) detail on the Gordon Brown/Tony Blair relationship.
minor complaint: not all of us are from the UK and know these abbreviations, eg ECHR, i had to stop the podcast and look it up.
Campbell and Super Hans both doubted the internet
Is Rory channelling his inner Johnson with his hair?
The corruption by Eric Adams is far worse than described here.
Why does Rory keep a knife on his bed?
Because he doesn't live in America and doesn't have readied access to a handgun
We need a military person to take on Politics and call a spade a spade, do what's right for the country, not pander to those who say they are offended, and rid us of the press calling the shots on who is PM.
Claire Fox would be a good guest. She’ll run rings around AC
Kemi Badenoch would be a disaster for the Tories - elect her please!
Maitlis was quite sneaky with Zahawi a couple of weeks ago.
Im from Brum ,, Id come BUT ..all the best from Costa Rica
The sexual tension between Alistair and Rory is incredible
Rory’s defo a bit frisky today 😂
Just good friends.
lol lol
Not really, in fact not at all.
No one vying for the leadership of the Troy party are inspirational, rather they are either loud or boorish or just plain dull 😮😂 what do think ?
We arent covering the new Ali/Starmer revelations, quietly announced as if noone would notice 😂
Depends on the time they recorded this. They've spoken about the handout thing in previous episodes but havent touched the latest developments (ie Kier returning money)
Abba have said they need to recoup £140million to make Voyage successful.
Not sure AC is right about Cleverly. I thought he was by far the best speaker
He’s mediocre. As good as it’s going to get this time around.
"The Iraq Thing.."
I wonder if, in 10 year's time, Putin will get annoyed when people quizz him about "The Ukraine Thing..."
Er, he's 72, I doubt if he'll still be around then.
@@rhiannonhillyeah imagine an 82 year old being in charge of a major nation...
ah yes totally the same thing. The leader and sole executor of the decision to invade = press secretary??
@@-JT-543 Well, no, of course it's not.
But amoral Press Secretaries are *enablers* of tyranny.
@@-JT-543 well he hasn't exactly faded into the background has he? The fact that he had too much influence is the issue.
Not one politician in any of the parties has the quality required of a PM. Until there is, politics is pretty useless and frustrating.
It is one thing to be electable as as PM or party leader and to be good at the job sometimes...
Chris Bryant seems like he has his head screwed on. I'd prefer Mick Lynch but that'll never happen.
Look great Ror
Does anyone else get the feeling Rory was born 100 years too late ?
Like Lady Starmer, Sue Grays date of birth on Google is ambiguous, not being a Conspicuously Theorists or anything.
So Campbell says he wrote articles for the sex industry and then later says pornography is an issue with young men.
I feel decidedly ill when I contemplate that.🤢
"Iraq haters", what? Can you hear yourself? Odious man.
Tory leadership? Deciding between Black Pocks and Beubonic Plague….😂
Please, for the love of all that is holy, read Of Boys and Men by Richard Reeves. Better still, invite Mr Reeves for an interview on your podcast. 🙏
Fareed Zakaria interviewed Putin cuz he is a real journalist. Alastair, you are the king of partisanship, hard to see how you understand journalistic ethics.
Tories need a De Gaulle. Not least to give the country a meaningful choice beyond neo liberal mercantilist soup.
I find it ironic pornography can turn you increasingly right wing.
Yes get gambling out of sport and then the vast majority of 'sports' would cease to exist - Horse Racing being the first.
Had the 'Pleasure' of visiting the casino at Monte Carlo a few weeks ago! Chandeliers and slot machines and not at all alluring!
Felt so bad for those hooked on gambling so I wandered out and stood under a full moon at a viewing point around the back. The moonlight shone on the shimmering surface of the sea in the harbour.
Natural beauty and human ugliness intertwined!
I can't listen to Anthony and Kathy at all. I find them so annoying.
@@keithp6699 Anthony is too loud and obnoxious. The News Agents USA is a better listen.
A thought about what Alistair said at around the 21 min mark, about why young men are turning to the right (by the way, I'm a lefty).
First off, Alistair, you are talking like someone who hasn't spoken to anyone under the age of 30 in a meaningful way in years.
Secondly, the reason having more female teachers than male teachers is a problem is that a teacher is often the only positive male role models working class men have, so taking that away is incredibly damaging. If I didn't have my history teacher, Mr Russell, to talk to, I'd be a monster by now.
Also, in terms of female doctors. Like most women like to have a female doctor, most men would prefer a male doctor. So, it makes men a lot less likely to seek help when needed. Again, it is very damaging.
Lastly, men still do most of the societally systemic roles, eg. waste management, construction, logistics, energy, military, and so on. But when women go into these roles, they often quickly bunnyhop all the menial roles and go straight into management within a year or so. While young men with the same qualifications are kept doing the menial roles for most of their working life.
Ultimately, the young men who helped support women in their fight for equality. Now, feel that equality just mean that it's their turn to be suppressed and that we are being punished for the sins of your generation.
Alastair is so out of touch ….. it’s so obvious that having more male teachers is a good thing in that young men need role models …… especially considering many young people grow up in fatherless homes.
@CritcalThinker37986 Completely agree with you. Which pains me, I'm from sedgefield and Alastair was a bit of a folk hero up here, but as I get older, I realise that him and Tony just bent us over a barrel, as a thank you for keeping them in power. I've even bought tickets to their stupid show, but I really really don't want to go now.
No need for a political advisor post. The Civil Service is supposed to carry out the policies of the Govt. Who is running the country?
Political sdvisors should be politicians or Media people like Campbell , now perhaps Kevin Maguire, to stop banana skins and not frighten the horses. Should be a party appt
Sack Sue Grey. Sack Stammar and let Angela take over.
Grey Starmar are liabilities
Starmar doesnt look like a PM
going sround with s blank look on his face24brs a day.
Please not like Campbell. Look at the state of his legacy.
Quite rightly so
Start each podcast with Harry Lauder's Keep Right on and I'm sure loads more Brummies will turn up 🔵⚪
Agreed
These two have become even more insufferable to than before. Simply an echo chamber. Where's thr debate?
She's all that's wrong with politics today. A turncoat that makes far too much money. Disgusting.
The tetchy Trot is not long for this system Campbell.
To be replaced by Streeting who also has authoritarian impulses and urges.
It isn’t looking good is it?
So weak and wobbly and knee deep in sleaze so soon.
Cleverly's speech, the bit i listened to was full of clichés and little content of value so i switched him off. Not being a Tory i had little interest anyway.
Are they a target for the media? I don't recall Cameron's political advisors receiving the scrutiny a free press implies! On the one side, the Tax Payer's Alliance who hosted the Leave campaign - and on the other, Cameron's aide de camp Craig Oliver, half-arseing the Remain campaign! Now Sir half-arseing the Remain campaign!
Probably weren't in the media much because they weren't very interesting. Cummings on the other hand...
@@xDJxG0LD3Nx I didn't know Craig Oliver is a bore. Why would Cameron appoint a bore to head up the Remain campaign?
Have you forgotten about Coulson? He ended up in jail, it was a massive story.
@@dannyquinn9128 Are you saying hiring Coulson, prevented media scrutiny of Cameron's fake remainer scheme?
@@karlstone6011 No, I'm saying your initial statement is incorrect.
The scrutiny on Coulson was one of the biggest stories during Cameron's premiership.
Rory, how to sleep?
Ask the cia
Wonderful podcast but for Christ sake Rory KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM YOUR FACE …. TOO DISTRACTING.
where was this energy for cummings?
Alistair Campbell
All of a Shambel
Love in Indeed.
Hope you succeed.
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rory bootlicking sam harris was funny.
Gentlemen, may I urge you to discuss (at some length) the Keir Starmer free bee issue. I strongly believe it is important for your audience to hear your opinion. I am prepared to hear that you think it is a non event (if that is your opinion). I would like to hear why. Please!
John Mearsheimer is the man you are frightened to interview.
They should rename this podcast, In Labour's Defence. There is utterly no difference between Alastair and Rory these days.
Wow, Alistair thinks the Iraq war was funny!
He probably can't believe people actually take him seriously
God Campbell talks knob rot sometimes.
Panicious?
when are we going to get on to the story about Starmer secret
What secret?
@@dannyquinn9128 ua-cam.com/video/IcPvLCGSE6w/v-deo.html
It looks very much like he has had a affair and the women has had his child
@@dannyquinn9128 ua-cam.com/video/IcPvLCGSE6w/v-deo.html
It looks very much like he has had a affair and the women has had his love child
I think you overstated Andrew Tate and that movement, I believe young men are often more libertarian.
Absolutely
They're not saying that Andrew Tate and that movement are dominant, it's more that there's a crisis of identity among young men, and Andrew Tate is one example of someone who is providing an answer for some of those young men. Others might lean towards libertarianism, or traditional family values, or feminism, or authoritarianism, or whatever - but whatever answer they reach for there _is_ a crisis of identity among young men that needs addressing.
@@phueal yeah no I agree with most of that. I'm not convinced they are trying to find their place. I think libertarians know their place...I just totally disagree with it!!
I thought this podcast would be a good thin. The more i watch it, the more tragic it becomes. Rory and Alistair are basically the same politically. The notion of middle class liberals on the right and left being the same is so easily summd up perfectly by tis podcast. How Rory thinks he is even a conservative is baffling. It seems to be because he is posh and some historical nonsense about therefore he should be one. As a labour voter, i hold no one in more contempt and disdain than Alistair. His sleaze and "spin" of New Labour era have destroyed politics. Although effective at the time, deciding they had to be more like the Tories from a PR perspective hs actually reduced standards and quality in politics ever since.
Well said. It's even more obvious now this podcast exists to do spin for the Labour government
This UA-cam channel has changed. It started as an interesting discussion and commentary on politics from supposedly different sides. It's quickly morphed into Rory and Alistair agreeing on most things, criticising all the usual topics(Brexit, Israel, conservatives, etc) and/or defending the other sides. Well, I guess Alistair is the master of communications 🤷♂️
@davidgaskin5417 agreed. I wasn't sure if I had remembered it like you, it seemed better when I first started watching it but now seems to have just morphed into a pretty empty rhetoric where thy agree on everything.
lol. accurate.
@@ruaraidhmorrison5879 it changed for me with Alistair saying that he watched Al Jazeera because of the good reporting
Get rid of Alastair. The podcast has become unbearable since Labour got into power. He is unable to criticise anything they do even if it's morally bankrupt...
I knew this would happen after the election!
You need a haircut, Rory!
The irony of Alistair calling out the Tory leadership candidates as uninspiring. Starmer and Reeves wrote the book.
What nonsense.
This doesn’t change the fact that the Tory leadership candidates are uninspiring and he still has every right to say so. He’s also called Starmer and Reeves bland.
I wish you were wrong, but, unfortunately, I think you are close to the mark.
The so-called 'leading lights' in both the Labour Party and Tory Party are uninspiring.
The Tory leaders are terrible
The tickets are too expensive. I mean, you're not Whitesnake, are you? 😝
Isn't it time to get Tate off UA-cam? If you work for mainstream media or even BBC and you're accused of crimes you're gone. How does Tate get a pass?
Now we know why starmer gave uk mosques £100m lord ALIs influence it stinks,
..we expected the tory nasty party and their client media and Russian bot led SM to fight Labour in any way they could. It seems that nobody's listening to them as Labour have only dropped 1 point since the election, whilst the tories have moved a few point ahead of Re-Form. As things carry on and Labour's policies make life a bit better, the right and far right may get marginalised. The worst that could happen for Labour is that they have to enter into a coalition with the Libbies. Not sure they'll have to do this as the client media seemed to have bypassed the tories and are now full on Re-Form. This has developed a niche minority of crazy people spreading disinformation and conspiracies. The far right will never go away, but if they stick to talking amongst themselves and looking extreme and abhorrent to reasonable people, all they'll do is enable a Labour government.