Was Mihawk A Fraud All Along?

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  • @MrMorj
    @MrMorj  Рік тому +53

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    • @Zero-ef4sc
      @Zero-ef4sc Рік тому +44

      Powerscaling isn't your thing, Morj. Even BDA Law has better takes than this and the lack of comprehension of powerscaling concepts is showing.

    • @Coolgamer..
      @Coolgamer.. Рік тому +20

      Your joking right, Mihawk has to be the strongest swordsman. He has the title after all and no one in the series doubts him.

    • @killme1389
      @killme1389 Рік тому +8

      "The Raid Will Fail"

    • @zaczeen1121
      @zaczeen1121 Рік тому +6

      You just made up a lie at 7:05
      We also know that Zoro is never going to fight Shanks? Which statement in the manga told you that they will never fight?
      Cmon man.
      If your argument is that "oh because Mihawk is already a stronger Swordsman so why would he waste his time fighting someone weaker." then you've basically ignore all the fights Zoro had with every single Swordsman in the story who is WEAKER than Mihawk.
      And you say you want to be objective?

    • @zaczeen1121
      @zaczeen1121 Рік тому

      And also, his title isn't complicated at all.
      If you're a man of objective truth, you would also objectively admit that the databooks are canon (until changed).
      BOTH of their titles, Kaido and Whitebeard, have NEVER been described as true in both name AND actuality which Mihawk does.
      How many times do people have to tell you this until you listen Morj? I get it you want to stick to Manga but you can't say you want to be objectively honest, and then completely brushed off the things author have considered to be canon to the story.
      So it's not complicated.

  • @PowerfulSniff
    @PowerfulSniff Рік тому +1199

    New character: holds a sword
    OP community: mifraud is a hawk 🤯

    • @gurrenkamina3095
      @gurrenkamina3095 Рік тому +116

      Literally this😂

    • @KatieHuni
      @KatieHuni Рік тому +8

      I don’t think that’s the case, they just think it’s complicated and not actually think he’s a fraud, it’s still possible mihawk is the final opponent it wouldn’t make sense any other stronger swordsmen being stronger it would make zoros journey useless

    • @wpower7435
      @wpower7435 Рік тому +40

      This is why the one piece community has one of the dumbest people...actually better to say most of them are the dumbest just a simple information given based on a panel they assume it's gonna be like that without knowing the outcome.
      I remember having an argument with someone about Sabo at chapter 1083 by saying '' damn Sabo is cruel remember how violent he was in Dressrosa against Bastille and the marines AND Burgess?''
      I told him/her to shut up just because he was ok with King Cobra's assassination to fire up his goal doesn't make him a cruel guy smh chapter 1085 proves my point about Sabo's attitude by saying to King Cobra '' our real enemies aren't the kings it's THOSE GUYS (celestial dragons&Imu) above you''. That clearly proves Sabo isn't someone who kills anyone without knowing how much of a serious threat they can be and obivously knows King Cobra isn't a bad person heck he wanted to save him from the gorosei and Imu but Cobra said to leave him behind since he was completely ill and in the verge of dying he (Sabo) knows other kings of other countries are not bad the revolutionary army is a smart organization which is no surprise they have many connections and alliance with other countries.
      Sabo is damn too kind the Bastille Burgess topic is such a bad example these two were literally threatening Sabo and you expect him to not defend himself aggressively or violently like wtf? That's like saying I shouldn't defend myself aggressively against a person who's throwing stones at me or gonna stab me with a knife lol that being said sorry if this is too long for you I wanted to say it.😆

    • @tsunertoo9149
      @tsunertoo9149 Рік тому +4

      I mean if every "strong" character is going to wield a sword it's pushing when Zoro will face Mihawk back more and more.Tat this point IMU could pick up a sword. Guess Two piece stars with Mihawk vs Zoro then?

    • @bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670
      @bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670 Рік тому +14

      roger holds a sword.
      The community: Mihawk>Roger confirmed

  • @JabariMusashi
    @JabariMusashi Рік тому +1358

    One Piece community when Mihawk, the Worlds strongest swordsman, ends up actually being the strongest swordsman in the World : 😮😮😮

    • @XelLeRoux
      @XelLeRoux Рік тому +136

      What the WSS is truly the WSS. Goda has done it again!

    • @ocbmega1011
      @ocbmega1011 Рік тому +42

      Mihawks fans: when shanks is doing mihawks job better than him 💀

    • @JabariMusashi
      @JabariMusashi Рік тому +211

      @@ocbmega1011 Well the Inferior swordsman showing off first before the strongest is a given

    • @ocbmega1011
      @ocbmega1011 Рік тому +41

      @@JabariMusashi okay you got me there 😂

    • @ison2339
      @ison2339 Рік тому +8

      @@JabariMusashi Kekhawk battled before Shanks in the story speedreader bro

  • @plotrobert
    @plotrobert Рік тому +93

    New character with a sword: Exists
    One Piece fans: He must be stronger than Mihawk

  • @Cola-42
    @Cola-42 Рік тому +739

    Since they showed us all those new characters and still keeping Mihawk and Dragon for last, I don't think we will be disappointed. They do need to show us Mihawk in action at some point.

    • @Kurodo222
      @Kurodo222 Рік тому +29

      Mihawk isn't the same as dragon. We've actually seen him fight more than Shanks. He had a full fight vs Zoro and had several action sequences in Marineford

    • @samson1863
      @samson1863 Рік тому +154

      @@Kurodo222 Not even a single named attack unlike Shanks. Stop it

    • @panafricanismisascam5201
      @panafricanismisascam5201 Рік тому +52

      Mihawk isn't that important anymore in the grand scheme of things. Mihawk is like a side quest 😂

    • @tercial
      @tercial Рік тому +52

      Exactly Oda always one ups when he does a reveal just look at Garp one upping Shank in a feat Mihawk and Dragon will have there chance

    • @Joshua-fq9tm
      @Joshua-fq9tm Рік тому +4

      i feel like oda introduced some and actually a bunch of new characters/antagonists so that mihawk, dragon, shanks, probably even the likes of crocodile could show their feats.

  • @kushkungvivo744
    @kushkungvivo744 Рік тому +153

    Why is this still a debate. "Mihawk hasn't shown feats" because It's easy for Oda to just show off other characters first then show Mihawk's feats last, topping every feats that came before. Especially with him being Zoro's endgame. It's that simple.

    • @ND-er1bo
      @ND-er1bo Рік тому +28

      Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Mihawk has never been shown to take any damage ever. That seems like a feat to me. I think the closest thing we got to that is him sweating when Buggy announced that he wanted to go for the One Piece.

    • @Shark-hn4mv
      @Shark-hn4mv Рік тому +39

      @@ND-er1bo, and that was only because it destroyed Mihawk goal of chilling. It's constantly emphasize that Mihawk does not enjoy fighting anymore and only will act if he's too bored or interested.

    • @tsunertoo9149
      @tsunertoo9149 Рік тому +6

      The issue I see is that Zoro's end game is trumping liteally everyone elses end game except Luffy. Like we've been shown the final boss at this point and it's basically confirmed at the very lest two of them are swords man so now it's like, is there anyone Zoro wouldn't top if he beat Mihawk before we ran into IMU? IT's making Mihawk feel more like the final secret boss than a character we'll run into.

    • @oliverbicanic8517
      @oliverbicanic8517 Рік тому +2

      @@ND-er1bo tell me you have no brain without telling me you have no brain

    • @gazaalley3862
      @gazaalley3862 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ND-er1boyou know who hasn't been shown to take any damage either ? Koshiro,

  • @Reborn_TM
    @Reborn_TM Рік тому +429

    I will never understand the obsession to discount Mihawk and his purpose in the story as Zoro's end goal.

    • @firefistace6407
      @firefistace6407 Рік тому +21

      yeah he is out of ideas i guess, Mihawks title is in the sense of pride one takes while using a sword to fight

    • @kollen5952
      @kollen5952 Рік тому +7

      because zoros dream has NECESSERALY to come earlier than luffy's, for narratives progression to make sense, the dream of the protagonist is ALWAYS the final climax of any story. So zoro has to defeat mihawk earlier than laughtell and then what ? what he wil do next? fight opponents weakerthan the one he previously fought ?

    • @Aquayoru
      @Aquayoru Рік тому +30

      ​@@kollen5952 he doesn't need to fight a pure swordsman you know.

    • @MarkHogan994
      @MarkHogan994 Рік тому +1

      Who is discounting Mihawk? Y'all need to turn on your brains, stop getting offended over nothing, and watch the damn video fully before commenting nonsense. 6 minutes in Morj specifically mentions Mihawk's purpose as Zoro's end goal and how that is the best argument for Mihawk being the strongest.

    • @SuperOmegaBerserker
      @SuperOmegaBerserker Рік тому +2

      ​@@kollen5952well you forgot luffys dream isnt to be pirate king thats just part 1 of the 2 part series of One peice and One peace,
      Zoro will defeat mihawk after laughtale but before they face IMU and the gorosei to avenge LiLi and joyboy

  • @maliklofton9148
    @maliklofton9148 Рік тому +636

    If chapter 1058 didn't happen, I might feel differently. Until Oda stops reinforcing Mihawks status, I'm still gonna believe in him being the WSS.

    • @jacolbyrogers8113
      @jacolbyrogers8113 Рік тому +60

      Facts brother have faith, when the time comes, they will know!

    • @maliklofton9148
      @maliklofton9148 Рік тому +137

      ​@@jacolbyrogers8113 Why would I think Mihawk is a fraud if Oda said he's a better swordsman than current Shanks🤣 it makes 0 sense

    • @Dizastermaster.
      @Dizastermaster. Рік тому +56

      True. Whitebeard might have still been strongest when he died. Oda made it clear he was killed by a TON of different attacks from different people. Kaido was always stated that he was "considered" and "believed" by the one piece people to be strongest, whereas Mihawk's title never had that uncertainty. The way Oda introduced Kaido was always, in a way, set up to disprove the title. On the other hand, Oda went out of his was with Whitebeard's death to REINFORCE the title, basically telling us "hey it wasn't just Akainu and Blackbeard, Whitebeard died to a small militia of the top fighters in the world"

    • @maliklofton9148
      @maliklofton9148 Рік тому +36

      ​@@Dizastermaster. Yup cause it was never word of mouth like Kaido or an ironic picture of a sick man being called the strongest like WB.
      Not a single time has Oda given some kind of hint that Mihawk is a fraud. He has always kept his depiction and status in tact

    • @maliklofton9148
      @maliklofton9148 Рік тому +49

      ​@@Ganuah. Thoughts on Oda calling Shanks a master swordsman in Volume 4 billion? Or him using his sword to beat Kid in 1079? Or directly comparing Mihawks swordsmanship to Shanks in 1058? Or the databooks saying Mihawk is waiting for someone to surpass Shanks?

  • @TheRanOfGod
    @TheRanOfGod Рік тому +541

    One Piece fans have a obsession with trying their best to make Mihawk a fraud😂

    • @TheRanOfGod
      @TheRanOfGod Рік тому +118

      Y’all would rather believe Oda is gonna introduce us some random Nikas with a sword that is gonna be stronger rather than accept the one established since Chapter 50 is actually the strongest.

    • @jbigk_
      @jbigk_ Рік тому +111

      They'll never get tired of beating a dead horse..anything to cope with the fact Shanks is below Mihawk..they should
      take it up with Oda

    • @godussop391
      @godussop391 Рік тому +41

      @@jbigk_ shanks is definitely stronger than mihawk

    • @AgeofJP
      @AgeofJP Рік тому +43

      also with overhyping characters that have literally NO feats at all...I get that they're strong, but it's the admirals that were repeatedly stated to be the WGs strongest force and who maintained the power balance against the emperors (alongside the Warlords)

    • @panafricanismisascam5201
      @panafricanismisascam5201 Рік тому +21

      Mihawk is a fraud with no feats. He's literally a side character at this point 😂

  • @jadenbbbruh5227
    @jadenbbbruh5227 Рік тому +236

    Mihawk was stated to be the strongest swordsmen in name and ACTUALITY. The other titles don’t have this. Shanks has used a sword every time he gets into a serious fight. Oda said shanks is a swordsmen. It’s really not that complicated. Zoro becomes the WSS after beating Mihawk not shanks. Anyone other than Mihawk being Zoro’s final opponent is a let down. Their duel holds by far the most narrative weight. There’s so much we don’t know that i wouldn’t worry about the how more so the who and why.

    • @samson1863
      @samson1863 Рік тому +55

      They don’t realize Mihawk is still being saved for the end while Oda keeps on introducing us new swordsman. None of them will be stronger than Mihawk

    • @panafricanismisascam5201
      @panafricanismisascam5201 Рік тому

      This clown said actuality 😂. One Piece fans are not the smartest people and if they don't like something they'll just ignore it and make up their own headcannon

    • @zero1188
      @zero1188 Рік тому +3

      After zoro destroys mihawk he will take his title and still fight as the current world strongest swordman against fhe government. But what dont make sense is if he fights peope weaker than himself. It make more sense if garling or the goursei is strongee because they consider themselves Gods compared to mihawk who is just strongest on earth.

    • @rkvlegacy9206
      @rkvlegacy9206 Рік тому +30

      @Giwrgos Petrou Yet another person who failed to read in between the lines. Mihawk was gauging WBs strength as he also noted the distance wasn’t great at all implying WB was weaker than what Mihawk expected. Jozu also is more durable than WB had the perfect fruit to deflect a casual slash attack. A casual slash from Mihawk could cut large tsunami glacier like nothing. Oda literature just set Cross Guild up for more combat focus arc. Mihawk is thee strongest of all Swordsman until Zoro defeats him. Zoro defeating the others will not bring him the title.

    • @starrk5627
      @starrk5627 Рік тому +1

      Shanks being stronger than Mihawk wouldn't make him Zoro's opponent.

  • @legion0764
    @legion0764 Рік тому +255

    The fact that Whitebeard called the Mihawk and Shanks duels "Legendary" says it all.

    • @swagman2001
      @swagman2001 Рік тому +47

      And the fact that shanks literally gained notoriety from duelling with Mihawk should say a lot to people forget Mihawk was already known before the pirate era

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +10

      ​@@swagman2001what are you even talking about? We don't k ow that shanks only gained notoriety from this but we know that his bounty was a fraction of what it is now AFTER he stopped dueling mihawk.
      Shanks got his notoriety from being shanks. The pirate age is synonymous with Shanks. Not from mihawk.

    • @swagman2001
      @swagman2001 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705 nigga what? How can Mihawk gain notoriety from dueling shanks when Mihawk was more known than shanks before the pirate era and he is older than him you shank fans are little bit slow

    • @eneru1731
      @eneru1731 Рік тому +37

      @@alexdavies5705That’s wrong since the Ace novel which Oda approved of being canon said Shanks gained fame because he kept dueling Mihawk and made a name for himself on the sea since Mihawk was already famous during Rogers time

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +4

      @@eneru1731 it is literally never said that that's why he gained infamy and his bounty back then was 1/4 of what it is years after not fighting mihawk. Trying to say this is why shanks is notorious is crazy.

  • @imtiazsa1807
    @imtiazsa1807 Рік тому +212

    If I remember correctly then you were the guy who once said that if Mihawk is not the strongest swordsman then Zoro would be chasing after the wrong person for the entire series and Oda wouldn’t do that.

    • @iCoNFiDeNtx
      @iCoNFiDeNtx Рік тому +10

      Yup

    • @EE12345
      @EE12345 Рік тому +81

      If Mihawk isn't the strongest swordsman, then both him and Zoro are frauds and Zoros dream was a joke. And yes that includes bs like "Shanks uses Haki so he's not a swordsman" lmao

    • @talhajahan4444
      @talhajahan4444 Рік тому +54

      atleast watch the video 🤦‍♂️

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Рік тому +6

      That was before Oda choose to reveal 2 high standing swordsmen that Mihawk hasnt dueled.

    • @grizzlyadams8277
      @grizzlyadams8277 Рік тому

      Maybe watch the video all the way through before commenting? Because you just look ignorant rn.

  • @MrMrkman98
    @MrMrkman98 Рік тому +177

    If Mihawk isn't the strongest swordsman then that's 20 years of hype thrown down the drain. It would be one of the worst writing choices ever made in One Piece.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +16

      Mihawk was already the worst writing choice though.
      Came in with a feat that looks small by halfway through pre ts and just plain silly post ts while we're told he's the strongest swordsman.
      Don Krieg somehow escaped him on a messed up chimera boat he glued together and sailed to baratie. Because why?
      Reveals a black blade story line that gets thrown away for over a decade after oda makes haki
      Shows up at marineford and does nothing, goes through the entire thing unable to beat anyone stronger than daz bones who got beaten by arabasta zoro. Gets matched up to vista who does nothing ever again while we're told he rivals mihawk. These 2 strongest fighters clink swords while the big boys crush half of marineford.
      Teaches zoro but fails to teach him what conqueror's haki is despite knowing that he's gonna come up against it
      Goes from the strongest swordsman in the world to keeping safe with one of the first guys to get smacked in the grand line by pre gear luffy and one of the first guys luffy smacks before the grand line.
      And so on.

    • @MrMrkman98
      @MrMrkman98 Рік тому +85

      @@alexdavies5705 Horrendous take, but keep it up!

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +10

      @@MrMrkman98 lol did you seriously just upvote your own comment because you couldn't respond to what I actually said?
      You're saying abandoning plotlines for over 2 decades is good writing? Horrible take to say it's not? XD
      You're saying don krieg escaping the world's strongest swordsman through a calm belt on a frankenship he glued together was good writing? XD
      Yeah. All this was great writing. Abandoning plotlines for nearly 25 years and just replacing it with armamanet haki in the interim to not have to write yourself out of that corner is some serious premium writing xD

    • @MrMrkman98
      @MrMrkman98 Рік тому +50

      @@alexdavies5705 Keep spitting dawg, I'm sure you'll find someone eventually.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +6

      @@MrMrkman98 lol you keep up voting your own comments to feel like someone is agreeing with you and I find that funny. I like that you have to agree with yourself while talking about me finding someone eventually. Very ironic.

  • @randysanchez9127
    @randysanchez9127 Рік тому +284

    Zoro knows how strong Mihawk really is. He’s still Zoro’s end goal.

    • @Buggy_DClown
      @Buggy_DClown Рік тому +79

      Fr it would be a waste of the entire character of Zoro if Mihawk wasn’t top 1 swordsman in the verse (current)

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Рік тому +7

      ​@@Buggy_DClown bro stop coping, it make no sense in the story for mihawk to be top 1 bro has no feats compare to other top tiers like bb, akainu, shanks, kaido and etc, all of them has better feats than him

    • @Reborn_TM
      @Reborn_TM Рік тому +50

      @@tajaemartin2251 Then please explain to the class what Mihawk's purpose in One Piece is?

    • @Buggy_DClown
      @Buggy_DClown Рік тому +45

      @@tajaemartin2251 first of all I said top 1 swordsman not just top 1
      Second of all if mihawk isn’t the top 1 swordsman please tell me why Oda made his character? What other purpose does he serve?

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Рік тому +9

      @@Reborn_TM mihawk purpose is to get defeated by zoro, that is it buddy bro character serves no purpose to drive the story he is literally just a character meant to get beat by zoro in the end , he does not drive the plot like other top tiers

  • @aliveghost368
    @aliveghost368 Рік тому +62

    I m just gonna say that " mihawk vs zoro was setup even way before bb vs luffy ".

  • @deathitself6985
    @deathitself6985 Рік тому +356

    To me this just makes it more open for Mihawk to actually be what he is because more possibly strong swordsmen are being introduced meaning they could have had encounters with Mihawk.
    Oda reinforcing Mihawk as the WSS in 1058 is kind of pointless if he wanted to go to another direction

    • @PurpleScrafty
      @PurpleScrafty Рік тому +23

      but it's very unlikely for Mihawk to have encounters with people that he probably doesn't even know exist

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 Рік тому +23

      @@PurpleScrafty I mean we are talking about unlikely things here anyway about Oda just building up dude for fun for a 1000 chapters. That's unlikely aswell so Mihawk having an encounter with holy knights is possible as well we don't even know where Mihawk came from what his background is what kind of history he has who he has had encounters with from the marines etc

    • @alecasare5425
      @alecasare5425 Рік тому +14

      There is zero possible way Mihawk has encountered all these swordmen

    • @gauntlet8026
      @gauntlet8026 Рік тому +19

      Mihawk couldn't even be bothered to go to Wano. What makes you think he would put in the effort to seek these obscured fighters?

    • @PurpleScrafty
      @PurpleScrafty Рік тому +23

      @@gauntlet8026 he hadn't even encountered Vista. Vista is like one of the few strong true swordsmen and had been sailing with WB for decades yet Mihawk had never encountered him

  • @curtisjackson4090
    @curtisjackson4090 Рік тому +166

    Kaido basically went 1 v 100 for most of the raid. No one could be him one on one. Dude was carrying the WHOLE frickin island while fighting fighting all of them.
    It's like that line... "if a 1000 band together to take out the master, they don't all become masters.". Far from it
    In fact it makes them WEAKER than the sum of their parts.
    In terms of acclaim and ability, ganking one enemy doesn't diminish that enemy... it diminishes each of the gankers.
    Kaido, as of ch 1086.... is still the World's Strongest Creature. Just because he lost at a mega massive handicap, does NOT diminish him. In fact, with the ungodly amount of effort (# of ppl) and luck that it took, it actually cements his title.

    • @TM__H3
      @TM__H3 Рік тому +30

      Same can be said about the white beard

    • @beng3360
      @beng3360 Рік тому +12

      Shanks stronger, why did Kaido turned back? He couldn't get past Shanks. Get over it.

    • @kollen5952
      @kollen5952 Рік тому +4

      shanks is stronger

    • @Cola-42
      @Cola-42 Рік тому +29

      ​@beng3360 😂 dude! Shanks didn't stop Kaido without getting a bruise. Get over it! Everything shows they didn't fight.

    • @nicktheknick5967
      @nicktheknick5967 Рік тому +3

      No because Imu exists, who will definetly be stronger than kaido

  • @dirttt6613
    @dirttt6613 Рік тому +45

    The gorosie, fingerland and his 10 fingers cant touch mihawk!

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +3

      Seems more like the other way round seeing as these guys aren't hiding where they live but mihawk and the revolutionary army have spent the entire story either serving or running from them.

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705mihawk was chasing the marines Lmao, what are you talking about? He was literally called a marine hunter. And they gave him the warlord position because they can’t beat him

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      @@Khaled68335 that was his title in the Roger pirates day, just because he hunted some marines doesn't mean he doesn't run from wg, and yes he is definitely running from them and always has.
      After Marineford, he tells us he forgot how it feels to be chased as he loses his warlord title
      On the phone to crocodile tells him he has to leave and relocate because wg were there. Croc offers to form cross guild so neither has to run
      And no, he applied to be a warlord so that he could move freely without being chased by them. Vivre cards tell us this
      I like that you got so cocky while being wrong though.

    • @Sero_Ci98
      @Sero_Ci98 Рік тому

      ​@@alexdavies5705 dafuq are these haters trying to say. Mihawk ain't running from no one.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      @@Sero_Ci98 Bruh you say this but after the end of marineford he talks about how it feels to be running from them again and the whole reason he agrees to make cross guild with croc is because he has to pack up and leave because the marines are coming as he tells croc on the den den mushi. Croc tells him they'd be safer together.

  • @generalyousif3640
    @generalyousif3640 Рік тому +78

    I don’t see how Kaido wasn’t the strongest creature in Wano, he was.

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому +2

      It isn’t referring to just Wano, it’s in context to the whole world

    • @elijahthirbenny248
      @elijahthirbenny248 Рік тому +24

      ​@kingrippzard2027 what creature is there that was stronger than kaido???? There was none. Kaido had them all on his crew under him. Even Yamato was as Wano

    • @kadeemcalbert6235
      @kadeemcalbert6235 11 місяців тому +7

      @@kingrippzard2027just because kaido lost after fighting big mom, the scabbards, luffy, zoro, law, kidd, yamato, momo, luffy again snd again, all while tanking evry single one of their stringest attacks and making an entire island float therefore he isnt the strongest creature in the world? tell me any one piece character that could do that and win? when you look at what kaido actually did its nothing short of insane lol his title is still relevant because its not like he straight up lost to luffy in a true 1v1

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 11 місяців тому

      @@elijahthirbenny248 Imu, or hell most likely Shanks sue to how conquerors works

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 11 місяців тому

      @@kadeemcalbert6235 first of all this is very disingenuous. Don’t throw in the BM fight into the equation when that was three days prior while Kaido has a zoan healing factor. The scabbards also did literally nothing of importance. And I’ll tell you at least two characters that beat him: Imu and Shanks. Imu is the most likely candidate for top one, and Shanks is due to how conquerors works and he has the best feats in the verse with it.

  • @irete267
    @irete267 Рік тому +90

    It wouldn't just be fitting for Zoro to not fight Mihawk at the end of the day. Really, what's in it for Mihawk if we're going with that outcome? Unless, of course, he fights Mihawk, gains the title, and then goes against those guys. Suffice to say that just makes things needlessly convoluted. And that's even assuming they're all stronger than Mihawk, there really is no evidence to support that, at all.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +4

      The evidence is that these guys have been around since god valley and maybe even the void centuru... If you do t think that's evidence that they're stronger than mihawk then you're crazy.

    • @impuredemigod5684
      @impuredemigod5684 Рік тому +4

      @@alexdavies5705 That’s just evidence that they’re older than Mihawk just cuz they might be older than him does not suggest in any way that they’re stronger than him if we’re going by that logic than Whitebeard shouldn’t have died at Marineford because he was the oldest therefore the strongest (doesn’t that sound fucking silly?)

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +3

      @@impuredemigod5684 it's "just evidence that they're older" if you don't understand the significance of God valley.
      Idk how someone can see garp vaporize that much at 80 years old with one attack or wb in the middle of dying of sea-cancer after not taking his meds crush half of marineford with a wave of his fist and both just be like "I'm getting old lol get me a retirement home" and still think that mihawk could hang with the people who were at god valley when they were in their prime.
      According to garp he's less than half as strong as he used to be and he's still way ahead of anything we've seen from mihawk. These guys could have retained more of their strength.

    • @impuredemigod5684
      @impuredemigod5684 Рік тому +2

      @@alexdavies5705 I get what you’re saying but we just haven’t seen enough of Mihawk actually trying to kill or fight someone to gauge how strong he is (I’m not counting Luffy at Marineford cuz anyone who isn’t the main character probably would have died) so with literally no evidence on how strong the gorosei are other than we know they can fight now just saying they’re stronger than Mihawk because they’re old is weird unless Oda drops something saying that the gorosei have been fighting since the void century than that would give you credibility but as it stands it doesn’t feel right to put the gorosei over Mihawk who Oda has been hyping up for over 2 decades just because the old dudes transformed

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      @@impuredemigod5684 idk man, we're told that vista rivals mihawk in Swordsmanship so unless it's unveiled that mihawk has some ungodly conqueror's haki beyond anything we've ever heard of from anyone and he just forgot to teach zoro what conqueror's was I just don't see that mihawk is supposed to be stronger than these guys.
      Seems more likely that since these guys are essentially a shadow government no one knew who they were to compare them to mihawk and they weren't gonna blow their cover just to put him in his place. It was convenient to let the world think that anyway since he was a warlord for part of his career. Less people wanna be pirates of they think they'll be hunted by the world's greatest swordsman after all.

  • @yean_jean5317
    @yean_jean5317 Рік тому +78

    The holy knights are known in the one piece world. And Mihawk was still crowned the strongest swordsman . That tells you everything you need to know

    • @Laurboy97
      @Laurboy97 Рік тому +15

      How were they known outside of some Navy and Government. Even those people are unlikely to know their full strength. Dragon seems to be the only person that knows their strength

    • @jarontirosh324
      @jarontirosh324 Рік тому +6

      @@Laurboy97 from where do you get that. It is never implied that the holy knights are a secret

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      @@jarontirosh324 you ever hear anyone talk about them? These guys are less known than cp0. And cp0 are secret. So much so that when the people who they serve have a message to tell the public, they'd rather send cp0 instead... These guys exist only on Mary geoise where no one but celestial dragons live to protect a shadow government and convict celestial dragons for things the world will never hear of...

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 Рік тому +3

      @@Laurboy97 holy knights are not as secretive as gorosei and imu

    • @neltins5308
      @neltins5308 Рік тому +1

      I don't think any of the Holy Knights or Gorosei are stronger than Mihawk although they might all be top tiers & on the highest level of combatants we see in the OP verse by EoS sagas.
      Imu however... yeah its likely he/she is stronger but Imu is not a swordsman.

  • @john_doe_2231
    @john_doe_2231 Рік тому +292

    We are waiting for the Wano analysis Morj 😂

    • @nicolasdietrich9327
      @nicolasdietrich9327 Рік тому +64

      Top 10 reasons why the wano analysis will end in failure

    • @Dionisio97
      @Dionisio97 Рік тому +8

      LMAOOOOOOO. There’s no way it’s coming out at this point 😭😭😭

    • @userusernomi
      @userusernomi Рік тому +29

      @@Dionisio97 oh it most definitely is, the way Morj doesn't pass on the opportunity to criticize Wano whenever the subject is remotely related to it? The dude is probably taking so long because he's gonna release his biggest diss track once it drops

    • @nagaijo7262
      @nagaijo7262 Рік тому +2

      😭😭😭

    • @GodComplex98
      @GodComplex98 Рік тому +7

      It's a massive arc with a ton going on. It's probably going to take a while

  • @hiboali3499
    @hiboali3499 Рік тому +18

    Oda keeps adding new swordsmen and yet he still reminds all of us that Mihawk is the strongest.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      I mean last time he called mihawk the world's strongest swordsman it was in the same joke that said he bends to buggy's authority and buggy is extremely dangerous etc.
      All he's done lately is tie mihawk to shanks then reveal a whole new level of antagonist who was at god valley and is likely shanks' daddy.
      Sounds more like oda was telling us that daddy's home and he's bringing the belt rather than mihawk is the strongest.

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705He is just another Zoro victim to be defeated Lmao

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      @@Khaled68335 bruh so far in your comments you didn't know that mihawk is confirmed to be running from the wg 3+ times in story and thought shanks didn't find the one piece because until the defeat of kaido and big mom (who didn't even know where it was to stop him) bc he was scared of them. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't believe your gauging of the story lol
      Thinking zoro is just gonna walk in and victimise the main villains who started the events that created this story, are foreshadowed as luffy's natural enemy, directly oppose joyboy etc.? Cmon. They're clearly the endgame.

    • @MrJamaigar
      @MrJamaigar 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@alexdavies5705
      😂😂 Bru, I'm still waiting for former Fleet Admiral Kong to take off his own belt, too.
      Those two, Garling and Kong might be old veteran buddies who go decades back; like Garp and Sengoku, except they're unquestionably loyal to the Government.
      It'd be safe for the Gorosei to tell either of the two about Imu's existence.

  • @Ron1840
    @Ron1840 Рік тому +45

    People have recency bias and latch on to the newest shiniest toy to put down someone else.

    • @Coffe789
      @Coffe789 Рік тому

      well put

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +2

      Not really. As much as mihawk is called "featless" by his fans he's fought a LOT of people and their issue is that his feats weren't that impressive.
      Meanwhile the kind of guys that are being revealed now fought at god valley with Roger, garp etc at their peak and live on a rock a quarter of the world away from navy hq but the revolutionary army still won't come and attack them. For a reason.
      That's not recency bias. That's just seeing the story as it's written and knowing that people who fought at god valley were very strong and that people don't really know who they are to compare mihawk's swordsmanship with them. But we do to an extent. At least one is a veteran of the biggest fight in the last 60 years between the strongest people on the planet.

    • @ibrahimsurti4922
      @ibrahimsurti4922 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705 Did he try
      Without haki he slashed mountains
      WIthout haki he could snipe people with a sword
      He just swing with that much force
      Shanks without haki is garbage, hell clown lost an arm to a mere sea king
      Hell not even zoro can cut mountains without haki
      There is no sword guy alive or dead who has shown feats like Mihawk without haki

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      @@ibrahimsurti4922 hey I'm not here to hype shanks up I think he's been poorly handled too for many of the same reasons. You mihawk stans are like hardcore Biden voters. If someone criticises mihawk, you call them a shanks fan and start talking about some stuff he did 6 years ago like that person cares. You can only see it through a partisan lens. Some people aren't so tribal and we just say it as it is as opposed to because it makes our guy look good.
      But you're saying ryuma has less feats than mihawk? Mihawk's biggest feat at this point is beating an iceberg. At least a dragon isn't a literal inanimate object lol. Ryuma is 400 years old and we know barely anything about him and he was only even introduced at all in thriller bark but he's already ahead in known feats. I mean at least he's actually known to have killed another swordsman unlike mihawk who's only win in a sword fight so far has been start of story zoro.
      Also you say without haki why? You realise haki just wasn't visible then bit everyone was using it right? And flying slashes with or without haki isn't really impressive bro. That's skypeia zoro level Swordsmanship. And cutting an iceberg you put up there as that great a feat? I'm sorry but I'm calling that equal to skypeia zoro being able to cut down a beanstalk big and strong enough to hold an island that fell on it without even bending.

    • @danchiziofficial2159
      @danchiziofficial2159 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705 Mihawk is the world strongest sword man plain and simple stop trying to use the scanning to go around his title

  • @MonkeyDeeznuts
    @MonkeyDeeznuts Рік тому +77

    I am sure Oda knows that there are literally people that have waited for years or even decades at this point, he definetly is gonna stick to Mihawk being the final fight rather than some irrelevant characters that most people don’t care about. Gorosei guy? Who cares. S-Hawk? King copy boring. Shiryu? Nobody likes him or even want to see Zoro fight him. Mihawk is even the only one out of all these people without a devilfruit.

    • @remus4283
      @remus4283 Рік тому +7

      You mean like the people who were hyped for the Yonko only for BM and Kaido become memes who couldn't kill a single prominent character?

    • @MonkeyDeeznuts
      @MonkeyDeeznuts Рік тому +31

      @@remus4283 Kaido and Big Mom were never supposed to be Luffys final fight nor were they build up like a Blackbeard for an example. They were always supposed to be obstacles for the bigger picture. Mihawk is the literal endgoal, not just a stepping stone.

    • @remus4283
      @remus4283 Рік тому +7

      @@MonkeyDeeznuts Why do you people keep replying to arguments that were never made?
      When did I say they were supposed to be his final fight? What I said was that they were major disappointments in proportion to their accolades and reputations. Mihawk is also a character whose hype is based on accolades and reputation, so it is within the realm of possibility that he will also be a disappointment.

    • @egusisoup1826
      @egusisoup1826 Рік тому +4

      ​​​​@@MonkeyDeeznutse, the only reason Morj doubts Mihawk being a final fight is because he doesn't know how it would happen in the climax of the story, since most people believe the world government is the strawhat final opponent.
      And while in hindsight you can draw a distinction for Mihawk, many people were just as passionate with Kaido, who was built up for the entire new world arc, only to be disappointed at Wano.
      The only argument the video made was that just having a title of "strongest" doesn't make it objectively true. Which isn't really arguable. Regardless, atm Mihawk it still the best option overall, just given how important his title is for Zoro

    • @MarkHogan994
      @MarkHogan994 Рік тому +7

      You pretty much invalidated your whole comment when you said nobody wants to see Zoro fight Shiryu, lol.

  • @mexicoselite937
    @mexicoselite937 Рік тому +73

    Every new Swordsman is just another Mihawk victim

  • @zLucci.
    @zLucci. Рік тому +37

    why would mihawk be the strongest swordsman if there was another guy running around with a sword that could beat his ass?

    • @gavinhall1991
      @gavinhall1991 Рік тому +11

      Because they aren’t running around, they are sitting atop Mariejois and are hardly even known to exist in the greater world of One Piece. They aren’t out there trying to make a name for themself, doesn’t mean they aren’t stronger. Even Imu has a sword, you’re telling me Mihawk is stronger than the final villain of the series?

    • @theseeker7692
      @theseeker7692 Рік тому +2

      Because they aren't running around, they are in Holy Land, "above" the world.

    • @3dsmaster537
      @3dsmaster537 Рік тому +1

      As a counterpoint, how badass would it be if Mihawk already traveled atop the red line and kicked ass up there years ago.

    • @joyboyspegel3527
      @joyboyspegel3527 Рік тому

      people are being dumbarses

    • @bakayarokonoyaro8375
      @bakayarokonoyaro8375 Рік тому +1

      @@3dsmaster537 yeah and they let him live after accomplishing that?
      sure.........

  • @thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978
    @thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978 Рік тому +65

    I think Mihawk is always and will be the final opponent of zoro no questions asked, it's just the most anime way of doing it. there will be dreams that ain't gonna be settled in the main screen of the manga, like Nami's dream of writing the worlds map since we know the straw hats only traveled in one of the many paths that's in the grand line. Besides its a more hype way to end Zoro a man that didn't only went on for his dream to be the strongest swordsman but also be the 2nd to the future pirate king, mihawk maybe better in swordsmanship against shanks but you could say shank's sword carry more weight because of the weight of his dream and will that's why mihawk have deep respect for shanks.

    • @kollen5952
      @kollen5952 Рік тому

      yeah, so after zoro defeats mihawk he could just go lay on a bed and wait for the war against the wg to end.Because theres no way zoro dreams comes after luffys, who is the protagonist ? If you think its zoro, than you are just a trans woman

    • @quadeevans6484
      @quadeevans6484 Рік тому +7

      @@kollen5952 I ain’t gon lie calling someone a trans woman as an insult is weird

    • @Funfun6000
      @Funfun6000 Рік тому

      @@kollen5952so zoro going to defeat wss and oda going to be like whoop just kidding this is the real dude right here. Oda going to drag a dude for 1000+ chapter as the wss and zoro have to beat and be like nah your real test starts now. Sounds trash should’ve just kill him off before wano.

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому

      Ah so we’re either going to have Zoro do nothing in the main climax of the story, or reduce him down to an epilogue event after everything is already done. On god that would be worse than Mihawk being a fraud

    • @Funfun6000
      @Funfun6000 Рік тому

      @@kingrippzard2027 nah oda just going to have the final guy either not be a swordsman or a guy who just so happens to use a sword (king/forest guy/big mom)

  • @shiki9856
    @shiki9856 Рік тому +64

    Zoro vs Mihawk will probably be one of the if not THE final fight. Everybody was watching Zoro fight Mihawk. So in the end we could’ve a even bigger scale with Shanks watching, previous Zoro opponents and Luffy/Sanji etc watching him

    • @zero1188
      @zero1188 Рік тому +4

      Doubtful. Make no sense to wait until end to fight mihawk. By the time they reach laughtale all the dreams should of came true

    • @shiki9856
      @shiki9856 Рік тому

      @@zero1188 Well they could go to Laugh Tale after Zoro beats Mihawk, I don’t see the issue here.

    • @zero1188
      @zero1188 Рік тому

      @@shiki9856 I actually thinks thats how it will happen. Luffy dream isnt going to come true until after WG is defeated. He have to have a reasons after finding the treasure to go after the government. That’s probably when he will reveal his real dream, not just finding one piece

    • @prabhatdeshmukh9592
      @prabhatdeshmukh9592 Рік тому +14

      Bro thinks Zoro is the main character to have Zoro v Mihawk be the final fight of the series 💀

    • @fredo8564
      @fredo8564 Рік тому +5

      Zoro vs Mihawk is not the final of one piece lmao

  • @rangalang9669
    @rangalang9669 Рік тому +57

    Zoro and Mihawk feels similar to Luffy and Shanks in a way. They both want to surpass the person they look up to from the previous generation, but the relationship really isn't antagonistic. That is, Mihawk isn't going to be joining Blackbeard or WG and threatening to destroy the world or the Straw Hats unless Zoro can defeat him. Given this, could it be possible that we get a post-WG showdown between Zoro and Mihawk for the title? I guess I'm thinking something similar to Naruto when I say this, where they "team up" (or are at least on the same side) against the WG, then have their epic battle after the big bad has been defeated to settle things.

    • @FkTheUFC
      @FkTheUFC Рік тому +1

      Zoro will defeat Shanks before fighting Mihawk. Pin this. Clip this. Remember this.

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Рік тому +5

      this is what I think will happen too. Lot's of the straw hats' dreams are only really achievable after beating the WG, so why not Zoro too? It would be cool. The only problem with this is how anti-clamictic it would feel.

    • @rangalang9669
      @rangalang9669 Рік тому +3

      @@deliciousdishes4531 Right, especially if the Straw Hats find the One Piece before fighting the WG. The hype from finding the One Piece and defeating Imu could make a Zoro vs. Mihawk more of an after thought. HOWEVER, we know that Mihawk (and Cross Guild) are going for the One Piece now, so maybe Zoro will fight Mihawk in the fight for the One Piece and not after the WG like I said in my original comment...

    • @refugetube4800
      @refugetube4800 Рік тому

      @@rangalang9669 u said the friggin opposite

    • @rangalang9669
      @rangalang9669 Рік тому +1

      @@refugetube4800 Haha yeah there's all sorts of arguments on the Zoro vs. Mihawk match-up, so it's fun to think through and hear other people's thoughts

  • @Nathan-tg4gu
    @Nathan-tg4gu Рік тому +6

    I don't think the "title's aren't accurate" argument works.
    Whitebeard's title was granted after Roger's death, and at the time, it actually was accurate. It only became inaccurate after he became old and sick. This does not apply to Mihawk.
    Kaido's title is only really arguably debunked by Luffy, but again, that title was granted BEFORE Luffy beat Kaido, so that argument doesn't work. Before Luffy unlocked G5, as far as we know, Kaido WAS the world's strongest creature.
    Mihawk is in his prime years, has not been beaten by anyone, and is not old and sick.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      Mihawk's title was given before figarland and the gorosei were conceptualised and before the one piece world knew who they were. As far as the world is concerned garp is the man that beat xebec. The people you just saw unveiled are a shadow government. They probably weren't going to reveal themselves just out of jealousy of Mihawk's title.

    • @RandomGuy93543
      @RandomGuy93543 Рік тому

      Whitebeard had the title before even oden joined him that was said in wano vivre cards

  • @KyubiCloaks
    @KyubiCloaks Рік тому +32

    The only thing that bothers me that nobody talks about is mihawks eyes. He just casually walking around with the same eyes as zunisha and Imu. We very well could find out he has insane Ties just like shanks does to Garling and it could even further complicate this

    • @AB-et6nj
      @AB-et6nj Рік тому

      Because Oda never made eyes a big deal, and he regularly draws those kinds of eyes for emphasis at times

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      He almost certainly has ties with imu. There's a lot of reasons to speculate this eg his eyes but a lot of stretches that could suggest it right down to imu being from the family NEROna and his sword being a very regal black blade named yoru with similar designs to the throne imu sits on right down to the cross with circles we now think of as the marines symbol.. Family means black, blade name means night.
      That being said maybe lots of people had eyes like that in the past, and maybe d stands for dracule or dracule was chosen to represent d, and maybe yoru is the 20th sword and maybe the tie is that he's actually the closest blood relative to lili. It's all speculation and it could all mean anything.
      But either doesn't mean he's actually the strongest swordsman alive.

    • @theanimerapper6351
      @theanimerapper6351 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705 but the only family that left was vivis. If mihawk is a CD then oda has to explain how he left the holy land

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      @@theanimerapper6351 for all we know mihawk is lili's direct descendant. Lili left and her brother became king of arabasta and continued the lineage that got to cobra and then vivi.
      Lili, however, we don't know. Just disappeared and left the will of D behind. Again, all speculation and it could be the opposite of the truth, but there's a possibility and it's just one of many that would tie mihawk to the original twenty. I'm not saying he is, or is likely to be, lili's descendant, just that with what we know there's as much evidence of him being lili's relative as there is imu's. I think most people expect he'll be tied to the first twenty but there's just a lot of open ends that he could be the knot to tie.

    • @KyubiCloaks
      @KyubiCloaks Рік тому

      @@AB-et6nj lol theres no way you genuinely believe this. "For emphasis" bruh..

  • @brook117
    @brook117 Рік тому +62

    Now im certain that Mihawk is the WSS since morj said the opposite 😂

    • @TardThor
      @TardThor Рік тому +9

      Morj literally said that Mihawk is the WSS though?

    • @TiberiusELP
      @TiberiusELP Рік тому +1

      @@TardThor he said he is the strongest but another stronger sword man uncover

    • @TardThor
      @TardThor Рік тому +2

      ​@@TiberiusELP The candidates Morj proposes are not exactly swordsmen though and he directly acknowledges that. Just like King, they are fighters that use a sword but get their actual strength from their devil fruit and/or their race. Mihawk would still be the strongest fighter solely relying on his blade and haki (which is Zoro's style as well) aka the WSS.

  • @lordzeref8175
    @lordzeref8175 Рік тому +24

    I'm really thinking that Zoro vs Mihawk will happen later in the "epilogue" of One Piece, there's no other way to make this fight (and Zoros dream) justice. It is something that really needs to happen at the very end of the story, and not rushed before the final war imho.

    • @Ryzen776
      @Ryzen776 Рік тому +1

      Not sure why people still think that the race for Raftel and the final war will be separate even. With a elder showing up at Egghead, it show that the WG are not rooted to Marijois, especially now that they got no more food supply.
      I personally think the final war will actually be a free for all between all the different factions, rather than a pirate vs WG conflict.

    • @bakayarokonoyaro8375
      @bakayarokonoyaro8375 Рік тому +5

      I see so there was a swordsman who was strong enough to give eos zoro a lot of trouble, and what was he doing during the final war?
      Waiting on his little island for zoro to save the world and then come to him?
      This argument could have worked before when he was doing his own thing, but with buggy dragging him and crocodile into the fray that argument doesn't hold anymore.
      Mihawk is now an actual threat to luffy becoming pirate king and as a result is most likely not going to be his final opponent as heaven is going to come next.
      As morj said a swordsman with a mythical zoan being stronger than him is not a knock to his title.

    • @FireAngelChris
      @FireAngelChris Рік тому

      @@Ryzen776 I have said this for over a decade. I really don’t believe it’s just going to be pirates Vs government type thing. It’s why everyone is on the move

    • @theanimerapper6351
      @theanimerapper6351 Рік тому +1

      @@FireAngelChris but it already is the pirates vs Marines. Marines are trying to crush all of them as we speak 😂.

    • @FireAngelChris
      @FireAngelChris Рік тому

      @@theanimerapper6351 Lol yeah but all the pirates don’t have same agenda eventually it will break down little bit more

  • @matthiasmelaku7118
    @matthiasmelaku7118 Рік тому +51

    Garling and Nusjuro may not be as strong as Mihawk. They may serve as displays for how far Zoro has come, and be noted in their fights as being strong, but not “Mihawk strong”.
    This might take place after Zoro becomes the world’s strongest swordsman, which makes sense considering how this would need to happen for his name to reach “heaven”, like he declared years ago.

    • @jarontirosh324
      @jarontirosh324 Рік тому +1

      But zoros battle against mihawk coold also take place after the final war. I mean he wouldn't be the only straw hat to only achieve their dream after it. Brook can only meet laboon after the war and frankys dream ship can only exist when the journy of the straw hats has ended

    • @RonquixoteDIII
      @RonquixoteDIII Рік тому

      Yeah we could even get a 2 vs 1 (nusjuro and Garling Vs Zoro) where they are both weaker but the combined strength is higher than Mihawk

    • @zero1188
      @zero1188 Рік тому +3

      Zoro fighting opponent weaker than himself makes no sense. Whoever zoro fight last have to be stronger than mihawk

    • @tarikizgua1835
      @tarikizgua1835 Рік тому

      ​@@zero1188not necessarily, Zoro after gaining the title shouldn't struggle that much against other swordsmen

    • @zero1188
      @zero1188 Рік тому

      @@tarikizgua1835 exactly. Thats why he will fight people stronger than mihawk

  • @nattylight9494
    @nattylight9494 Рік тому +6

    90% of this video is Morj head cannon lmao

    • @bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670
      @bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670 Рік тому

      i mean morj is not oda. 90% things that we said in the comment practically head cannon

  • @notdpanda9525
    @notdpanda9525 Рік тому +76

    Zoro could fight Mihawk after the final battle as a sort of epilogue to complete his character, thus maintaining Mihawk as the world's strongest swordsman.

    • @grizzlyadams8277
      @grizzlyadams8277 Рік тому +35

      That wouldn’t make any sense because then it would be the last major fight of the series. And there is a 0% chance that goes to anyone but Luffy.

    • @Dizastermaster.
      @Dizastermaster. Рік тому +1

      That's how I'd like it to be

    • @Dizastermaster.
      @Dizastermaster. Рік тому +1

      @grizzlyadams8277 Thriller Bark, Luffy was wasted and Zoro still got an insane moment after.

    • @vikasm8025
      @vikasm8025 Рік тому +5

      Yuck, never want this to happen

    • @awesomeavis7861
      @awesomeavis7861 Рік тому +1

      So you want Zoro to fail his goal? Why?

  • @markross9075
    @markross9075 Рік тому +23

    I would say the simple fact that he's the only known person alive with a black blade means at the very least he's the greatest swordsman we've seen. Greatest or not. I think that making a black blade is a step to mastering swordsmanship so until we see someone else with a black blade, Mihawk is the greatest

    • @marcnawezi1877
      @marcnawezi1877 10 місяців тому +1

      I would really love Oda to develop that part, need sole more black blades hope well see some when we meet the giants

    • @mehmetvursavas5922
      @mehmetvursavas5922 3 місяці тому +1

      He painted it

  • @soulsplitmaki
    @soulsplitmaki Рік тому +36

    morj, mihawk has been stated to be the world's strongest swordsman in name and ACTUALITY, he is THE strongest

    • @masidom8283
      @masidom8283 Рік тому +1

      bro thats just what people sayits not real ... the gorosei aredef stronger

    • @soulsplitmaki
      @soulsplitmaki Рік тому +9

      @@masidom8283 its not what people say, its verbatim stated in a databook that Oda has previously endorsed, mihawk is THE strongest swordsman, whoever you think is a swordsman is automatically below mihawk

    • @Shark-hn4mv
      @Shark-hn4mv Рік тому

      @@masidom8283, where is it stated that the Gorosei are def stronger? Your argument lacks far more evidence than what you're disagreeing with. All the Gorosei together couldn't even stop Sabo from escaping. Stop the nonsense.

    • @deliciousdishes4531
      @deliciousdishes4531 Рік тому +6

      @@soulsplitmaki didn't the fucking data book also say sabo was dead lmao

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      That was like a decade ago bro. These guys weren't even conceptualised yet in all likelihood and even if they were, do you think oda was going to reveal a bunch of late antagonists like that? Like if there were stronger people in the final chapter oda would've just told you about them?

  • @benjamin.omar.dehghan
    @benjamin.omar.dehghan Рік тому +13

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Zoro faces off with Mihawk after the climax of the story, at what point during the war with the celestial dragons would a fight between them make sense?

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому +2

      That’s why before the war makes sense. During or after is stupid as hell

    • @ranuastika9847
      @ranuastika9847 Рік тому

      ​@@kingrippzard2027if it comes after it, it's gonna kinda feel like Naruto vs Sasuke. When the wave calm down, purely fight for the title. Maybe while Luffy eating meat and the world watch them fight.

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому +2

      @@ranuastika9847 no it wouldn’t, it would feel random as hell. The reason Sasuke vs Naruto worked was because it was the main character against athe guy who is also a main character. Plus it was one of Naruto’s main goals for the entirety of Shipuden.

  • @datmand7256
    @datmand7256 Рік тому +7

    I doubt Mihawk is fraudulent in any aspect of his being. He most surely is the pinnacle of a swordsman. His whole life he was only in search of growing stronger in terms of swordsmanship and was said to challenge everyone until there was no one left. Even with Shanks I’m thinking he has the moniker of “observation killer” and it’s been said haki only grows in fierce battles. I’m sure he got that from his rivalry with Mihawk to close the gap and he seems, at least in the past the only one to compete with him. But then you have to think THIS MAN HAS NO SCARS! And with the title of “Worlds Strongest” no less. The other 2 with that title have/had multiple scars from battle. I hear a lot of “fraud” from some of the community but he doesn’t want fame, fortune, or anything it seems other than a worthy opponent. He doesn’t need to fight any big names like the Yonko because they don’t consider themselves swordsmen nor do they share a goal standing at the top to be the best swordsman. With Shanks at one point I’m sure he might’ve had that goal but after his time with Luffy his goals changed. I’m sure that’s why Mihawk called him a has-been as he gave up whatever may have been his goal was changed via giving up his arm. With a 3.5B? Somewhere around there? And while as far as we know COMPLETELY SOLO. Incredibly impressive. Simply put… just like Whitebeard and Kaido he is The Worlds Strongest for a reason

  • @FireAngelChris
    @FireAngelChris Рік тому +8

    MIhawk title is the only one that’s questioned next we going to saw Dragon isn’t the worlds most wanted man or dangerous man. One way or the other Oda gave us plenty of Glimpses as to why Whitebeard & Kaido held the titles they did. It took war to bring down both of those individuals. To think MIhawk won’t showcase why he isn’t legit is wild.

  • @gavinhall1991
    @gavinhall1991 Рік тому +16

    I feel like Kaido and Whitebeard’s titles are backed up by factual evidence though. Kaido has never been able to be executed, constantly escaped Marine capture, was a member of Rocks and was strong enough to become an emperor. Same with Whitebeard, he is the strongest man because of his ability to fight evenly with Rodger, and all his other notable feats.

    • @garvitdewda4729
      @garvitdewda4729 Рік тому +6

      No single person defeated kaido so his title still stands. And whitebeard with gura gura and adv coc in his prime along with potentially his strength to stop a ship with one hand deserves the world’s strongest man title. Both of them were jumped by multiple characters. So their titles were not of a fraud.

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому +2

      They are frauds. WB was the weakest Yonko during Marineford. He had two things going for him: endurance and DC. He had more anti feats in Haki, and some of the worst durability ever. And for Kaido: he definitely isn’t the strongest living creature in the world. That would be Imu. These titles aren’t based on facts, they are based on public knowledge

  • @jasonmatthews52
    @jasonmatthews52 Рік тому +9

    Damn y'all really don't like Mihawk huh? Y'all were the same ones saying Sabo was carrying Dragon up until the recent chapters lol.
    There's a reason Oda's been saving legacy characters like Mihawk and Dragon for last. Just sayin'.

  • @Naija_Ninja
    @Naija_Ninja Рік тому +2

    The biggest point against Mihawk isn't his lack of feats, it's his lack of relevance. He simply isn't relevant enough to be worthy of being Zoro's final opponent.

  • @Matt-zl4nr
    @Matt-zl4nr 11 місяців тому +1

    Mihawks biggest feat is throwing a casual unnamed attack to measure distance.

  • @skmstars2206
    @skmstars2206 Рік тому +27

    Mihawk top 1

  • @Kangu777
    @Kangu777 Рік тому +6

    I know Mihawk observation haki is good but I think his eyes are for accuracy as well his sword cutting is precise by his vision being so otherworldly

  • @gabehughes1626
    @gabehughes1626 Рік тому +12

    If mihawk wasn’t the strongest i feel like oda would be failing both zoro’s and mihawk’s characters. For that reason I really doubt oda will backpedal or decide to make someone else the strongest

    • @gabehughes1626
      @gabehughes1626 Рік тому +1

      And to argue the point you made at the beginning about titles; most of those you mentioned with an exception of kaido were past their primes. Even still at one point those characters filled their roles and demanded respect

  • @bigblinky182
    @bigblinky182 Рік тому +2

    Cmon Oda, the people are hungry. Please come out of the break month by cooking up a major Mihawk feat

  • @mohamedouledyahya9581
    @mohamedouledyahya9581 Рік тому +2

    People forgot that every time Oda shows the strength of a powerfull character, that character says "I become old & lost a lot of strength".
    This happened for all Top fighters characters, such as, Reiley, Garp & Whitebeard.
    Oda made it very clear that none of the current Top tier characters ( Shanks, Kaido, BM .. etc. ) are in the some level of the old school. ( Roger, Whitebeard, Reiley, Garp, Sengoku, Shiki )
    The current emperrors, are in the some some level of the old school characters, but, after they become old.
    Why ?
    Simply, because there is a whole new level reserved to some characters ( Dragon, Mihawk, & maybe the Gorosey )
    this room that Dragon & Mihawk will occupy, is exactly what old school ( Garp, Roger, Sengoku ) was in their prime & full strenth.
    So, yes, its.very possible that Oda left Mihawk & Dragon to the end because they are a full new level that we didn't see yet.

  • @nineveh17
    @nineveh17 Рік тому +11

    Not you too morj you're a shanks d rider 🤦‍♂

    • @MrYondaime705
      @MrYondaime705 Рік тому +1

      Did you watch the video ? He literally said Mihawk is stronger than Shanks in the video. How about you Watch the full video first before you comment something stupid

  • @NphiniT
    @NphiniT Рік тому +4

    THEORY 2:
    Venus kills Mihawk when the World Government make moves to stop the activities of cross-guild (E.g: Big News Morgan reveals the person on the throne and Cross-Guild make the mistake of creating a bounty poster for him. Then Venus attacks Cross-Guild)
    Shanks fights Garling in the final war, and we learn about his backstory.
    Zoro faces Venus in the final war to fulfill his goal

  • @CornG4397
    @CornG4397 Рік тому +5

    Mihawk has never fought a top teir but hes never used a name attack or been seen fighting serious either. Comparining mihawks unserious attacks in marieford that litterally cut a mountain in half too other yonkos unserious attacks clears them

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Рік тому +3

      "I want to test the distance between us and that man"
      "SORRY red-haired, but my blade/power knows no restraint"
      "Let us see if FATE will SAVW luffy from this black blade"
      How many times does it need to be said for you to understand the fucking story? He tried cutting luffies head off with that mountain slash and went for the strongest man in the world to test the DISTANCE between them. He was dead serious.
      No named attacks? K? Neither did whitebeard. Was he never serious?

    • @royalfun1031
      @royalfun1031 Рік тому +1

      ​@@MrSub132not all strength tho

    • @modernphilosopher1268
      @modernphilosopher1268 Рік тому +1

      @g whitebeard was the strongest man in the world and he fought EVERYONE, no one could beat him 1v1, same as KAIDO
      JUST BECAUSE MIHAWK CLASHED WITH WHITEBEARD DOESNT NULLIFY HIS TITLE.

    • @CornG4397
      @CornG4397 Рік тому

      @@MrSub132 Yeah he was so seriou she never used a named attack and only tried to fight wb once with a sword slash

  • @ToxicWave117
    @ToxicWave117 Рік тому +1

    Why is there even a debate about this? Mihawk is going to be Zorros final rival to become worlds strongest, that’s literally how Oda wrote it. Now when it is revealed that mihawk is actually the worlds strongest swordsman the one piece community gonna be like: 😮 “no way! The worlds strongest swordsman is actually the worlds strongest swordsman!”

  • @D.Strawhat
    @D.Strawhat Рік тому +1

    “since wb is not the strongest man and kaido is not the strongest creature” How are they not. Im still stuck on this sentence💀💀

  • @barimvp897
    @barimvp897 Рік тому +7

    Can’t wait for mihawk to finally flex and silence all this😂

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому +1

      That's what mihawk fans have been saying since marineford... Ig that wasn't quite 15 years ago yet, and they still haven't understood what daz bones said 15 years later even though its been repeated 50,000 times including in the king fight. Guess mihawk fans like waiting for things to sink in.
      No, for real though. Why would it make sense that mihawk was running from a shadow government all this time despite knowing where they live if he was stronger than them? Why would he need crocodile for safety if he could just walk in and body the gorosei any time he wants?

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 Рік тому

      @@alexdavies5705 you sound like the same garp haters who doubted garp since marineford until he foldec aokiji. Oda has been saving the strongest characters introduced in early one piece and revealed their true power in this saga

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому

      It doesn’t matter if he flexes. Lord I welcome him to do it soon. Once he does then his fate is sealed because all that would be left for Zoro is the WG. Making Mihawk power crept

  • @phutsorn1845
    @phutsorn1845 Рік тому +6

    zoro vs mihawk does not have to come earlier than the climax, it could very well happen after the climax

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 Рік тому

      That would be dumb as hell and doesn’t line up with anything else. Just based on the fact that Cross Guild seems to be a sooner rather than later obstacle alone.

  • @Shane-fq5bh
    @Shane-fq5bh Рік тому +3

    So Zoro's dream is redundant now? Is luffys pirate king dream redundant now cause Roger never fought big mom?

  • @abddjamil7842
    @abddjamil7842 Рік тому +5

    We haven't seen mihawk do anything ... yes but that doesn't mean he is weak or a fraud oda is building him same as shanks.... remember not long ago less then 2 months we never saw shanks fight for real yet we all were sure he was one of the strongest charcters and when we did see him fight it was epic ... and I think Oda is waiting for an epic moment to show mihawk's power

  • @lightdog1478
    @lightdog1478 Рік тому +3

    I never understood why we assume the 5 Elders were Zoan's. When we see the beast shapes it's also when Imu is using their power so couldn't it just be that the powers of Imu were distorting the room for Sabo?

  • @Entertainment-zh7rt
    @Entertainment-zh7rt Рік тому +4

    F take, Kaido was the strongest, nobody beat him one on one.

  • @agelaaast
    @agelaaast Рік тому +3

    the mihawk feat is coming after garp and shanks, and u know its gonna be fucking sick

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 Рік тому

      Because Mihawk >>> Shanks and Garp. That’s why Oda is hiding his powers

  • @giovannibrena3913
    @giovannibrena3913 Рік тому +6

    SHANKS: the protagonist's role model, the reason the story exists; pirate king's pupil; his animal equivalent is the lion; clashed with whitebeard and akainu, no effort; his haki is enough to throw admirals into full panic attacks; one shotted kid and killer
    MIHAWK: fights some baboons on a island; slashed some minions in marineford, couldnt even scratch jozu
    🤡: "Mihawk is stronger cause he's best swordman and shanks uses a sword"

    • @RogBearD
      @RogBearD Рік тому

      Zolo D gobblers born with L0wblood, it's running through their veins. What can they do?

    • @kirind.dragon1901
      @kirind.dragon1901 Рік тому

      Buggy : defeated jailer beasts
      Clowns: Dragon who has done nothing is stronger than buggy

    • @kirind.dragon1901
      @kirind.dragon1901 Рік тому

      ​@@RogBearD can u be any more toxic? Get a life

  • @Ray-hx5fu
    @Ray-hx5fu Рік тому +1

    Seraphim Mihawk being Zoros final match up aint a possibility that would be criminal. The captain of the god valley holy knights sounds like a more worthy opponent for Demon King Zoro

  • @ChrisJoestarr
    @ChrisJoestarr Рік тому +4

    After kaido performance during the rooftop like how tf can u say he's a fraud like u have to be blind.

  • @salmanalmahmood3107
    @salmanalmahmood3107 Рік тому +3

    Just like Luffy's endgame goal is to defeat imu-sama, zoro's endgame goal is to defeat mihawk. Both dreams carry the same weight.
    For someone so shrouded in mystery even now in the final saga, oda will definitely do mihawk justice.
    My take: Mihawk is part of the nerona family of celestial dragons, with special observation haki, plus the only one with blackblade in the series, plus an endgame goal and antagonist, plus swordskills greater thank shanks. man is a beast

  • @modernphilosopher1268
    @modernphilosopher1268 Рік тому +3

    People still don't understand the concept of the black blade, ryuma the SWORD GOD had a black blade
    when mihawk names an attack, people gonna shut up

  • @macm125
    @macm125 Рік тому +5

    I love Morj but sometimes he talks about One Piece like he’s the one who wrote it😂

  • @elliot8371
    @elliot8371 Рік тому +2

    How in the world Whitebeard wasn't the strongest man in the world in his time, and Kaido the strongest beast ? like, your very first argument is wrong and you don't even try to develop it

  • @philissad6009
    @philissad6009 Рік тому +1

    Shanks: I’m telling the gorosei!

  • @bennybeck
    @bennybeck Рік тому +15

    The one thing about titles in Op it’s all global perception, Buggy is the best character to represent that, it comes down to these characters to prove themselves. Also adding to the point of global perception/reputation it’s limited to what the public actually knows, for example Imu is most likely the strongest character in one piece and only a few people actually knows he exists. Mihawk could be the strongest swordsman in the world but Oda can easily say Nusjuro is the strongest swordsman in heaven, Zoro wants his name to reach where? The heavens. Mihawk has a black blade but is it necessary to be the most powerful with the blade? Or is it relevant to having the strongest blade? We don’t know yet. What if Nusjuro leans more to his devil fruit like many other swordsmen in one piece? Well then it makes sense why he might not need a black blade, especially if Nusjuro ends up with another god fruit, a sword god or in this case sword saint. The narrative could very well be Zoro needed to become the worlds strongest swordsman to best the strongest in heaven.

    • @FireAngelChris
      @FireAngelChris Рік тому

      What If MIhawk was trained by the Heavens ?

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 Рік тому +1

      @@FireAngelChris yep we dont know his backstory and he has eyes like imu

    • @FireAngelChris
      @FireAngelChris Рік тому

      @@bmoney3837 Yeah too many assumptions being made about a character who we don’t know his origins.

  • @arnoldmagqaza7860
    @arnoldmagqaza7860 Рік тому +5

    The disrespect to Mihawk is mad annoying.

    • @RogBearD
      @RogBearD Рік тому +1

      it's facts, yeah annoying and painful for the zolo D gobblers

    • @RogBearD
      @RogBearD Рік тому

      Cry harder. Burn HARDER.

    • @arnoldmagqaza7860
      @arnoldmagqaza7860 Рік тому

      @RogBearD What facts are you talking about Geek this is literally all theories there is no feats here. I don't even know why you brought up Zoro in this conversation.

  • @doolenny9458
    @doolenny9458 7 місяців тому +2

    How did kaido and whitebeard not earn that title?
    Whitebeard soloed multiple admirals and the entire world government with betrayals and still dint get scarred in the back while being on life support
    Kaido faught multiple high tier opponents and still took luffy getting a powr boost just for luffy to barely get the win
    Both seem pretty worthwhile

  • @lutalivrebrasil
    @lutalivrebrasil Рік тому +1

    The "Shanks may lose in swodmanship but wins in other ways" is the biggest cope I've ever seen. What, there's a judge to go in the middle of the battle and say "woah woah, you used a devil fruit and/or haki, you're disqualified! Mihawk still the best lol".
    If Oda and all characters says that Mihawk is the strongest, he is the strogest. There isn't ANY reason for Shanks to be stronger than him besides fan favoritism. Hell, everyone thinks Shanks will just lose to Blackbeard down the line anyway, if Mihawk is weaker than him what would that accomplish? Zoro is never going to fight Shanks or Blackbeard.
    Fingarland and the elder being stronger is just dumb, c'mon man not even you believe that.

  • @dsagase1726
    @dsagase1726 Рік тому +11

    the interesting thing is all of cross guild main members have a theme of lair going around such as buggy being buggy, crocodile and eva relationship and mihalk a man who has same Cavendish eye when he is possessed by that demon thing and a world's greatest haki(will) infusion sword so there is a one in a million Chance of him being possessed by yoru/his sword

  • @eversonllanzana5963
    @eversonllanzana5963 Рік тому +3

    Just admit that Oda wrote himself in a corner with these "strongest" titles. It's not like Oda planned everything from the start (like the existence of samurai Ghandi and Garling). It's obvious that Mihawk was really meant to be the strongest swordsman as you said Zoro's main goal to defeat him and eventually hold the title the strongest.

  • @yamikamisama9166
    @yamikamisama9166 Рік тому +5

    Think about it like this, If Garling was in fact comparable to WB back in the day, then he should be relative to Garp now, who is around admiral level. So, many of us have Mihawk over the admirals, which makes Garling being one of Zoro's final fights after Mihawk questionable. And with the Gandhi Gorosei, at best you could scale him to admiral level as well, since it's very unlikely that the 5 elders are all Yonkou level fighters as the man power needed to overthrow them, just wouldn't be there if that was the case.

    • @arijjavaid323
      @arijjavaid323 Рік тому

      Mihawk isnt above Akainu. Akainu came out with his head held high and stocks high after marineford.

    • @yamikamisama9166
      @yamikamisama9166 Рік тому +2

      @@arijjavaid323 Akainu is an exception since he's fleet admiral. But even then I'd contest that Mihawk might be stronger than him. We know WB wasn't the strongest Yonkou at the time because he was old and sick, yet that same WB two pieced Akainu and Mihawk is relative to Shanks....so no matter how you slice it, it doesn't look to be in Akainu's favor.

    • @joaov.candido8399
      @joaov.candido8399 Рік тому

      Mihawk don't have any notable feats to be above the Admirals. Dude have attack stop by Jozu and his fight against Vista was literally a drawn and his only wins is against East Blue Zoro and Daz Bones (Post Impel Down) . Meanwhile, Admirals made Yonko Commanders look a bunch of clowns.

    • @yamikamisama9166
      @yamikamisama9166 Рік тому +3

      @@joaov.candido8399 It's not all about feats dude. There's such a thing as portrayal, Zoro isn't even that close to fighting Mihawk yet, yet he's already almost reached admiral level. By the time he fights Mihawk he will be way above admirals. Not to mention Mihawk is relative to Shanks since they had duels in the past, unless you believe Vista could also have gone to toe with Shanks? Bounties aren't definitive indictors of one's strength but a lot of time they give you a rough gauge. And Mihawk literally has a Yonkou level bounty, higher than 2 of the Yonkou.

    • @alexdavies5705
      @alexdavies5705 Рік тому

      Considering no one has overthrown them despite knowing where they live all this time and the last guy to give it a go was xebec, don't you think it'd make more sense if they WERE stronger than mihawk? And that much manpower WOULD be needed? Hence why xebec made a crew of the strongest people on the planet to take them on, and why the revolutionary army hasn't managed to do so?
      What WOULDN'T make sense is if these guys were out there running from the world government and were actually stronger than the guys at the top the entire time. The gorosei weren't in hiding all this time. Everyone was hiding from the gorosei.

  • @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin
    @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin Рік тому +1

    S-Hawk being zoros' final opponent would be so ass. I would shit myself.

  • @yamikamisama9166
    @yamikamisama9166 Рік тому +1

    Although a lot of what you said is plausible I gotta disagree on the titles of Whitebeard and Kaidou being empty. At face value, given how WB was old and out of his prime and Kaidou having just been defeated by Luffy, it does seem to make their titles look fraudulent but if you give a bit more added context to these instances it makes sense.
    Whitebeard was the strongest man when he was given that title, for them to revoke it when he's old would seem odd, especially given how the Government didn't know about WB's deteriorating health, as by that point he was keeping a low-profile. As for Kaidou his "strongest creature" title made perfect sense, as he's literally an ONI who was the strongest Zoan devil fruit user. Kaidou losing to Luffy doesn't doesn't invalidate the title he had. So in short, IMO the titles of "world's strongest [insert]" have always been true, so there's no need for Mihawk's to be brought into question.

  • @johntitor1619
    @johntitor1619 Рік тому +10

    I always thought Zoro said heaven because he wanted Kuina to know

    • @knirb_
      @knirb_ Рік тому

      Same man, wants to let her know he did it.

  • @Random-yg9ef
    @Random-yg9ef Рік тому +5

    Zoro vs Mihawk is something that more people would want to see rather than Shiryu, Gorosei or a Mihawk copy. Mihawk also said he will wait at the top of the world for Zoro in chapter 52 which sounds like Marygeoise if you ask me

  • @shivtejkawale1073
    @shivtejkawale1073 Рік тому +8

    are we all just going to forget that mihawk is only one who has a black blade ( except ryuma) ?

  • @XelLeRoux
    @XelLeRoux Рік тому +2

    Imma be honest I don’t care about Nasjuro or S-Hawk. S-Hawk could have even haki but I don’t want to see a copy be the final duel for Zoro. Nor do I want a devilfruit user be the final duel.
    There is a guy, in his prime, with a black blade and no devilfruit and people would rather want Zoro to fight some zoan user like Gandhi a one trick pony invisible man or s King copy?

  • @captainkuri8807
    @captainkuri8807 Рік тому +2

    Mihawk was given the title by default. Roger more than likely was the previous WSS. After he did, it’s said Mihawk then challenged people until there was nobody left worth and he became the WSS and a Warlord because of that. The strongest person Mihawk has ever fought is Shanks all those years ago and he’s been fighting frauds since then, that’s why he was so bored in the beginning of the series and is looking for someone to surpass his former rival Shanks.

  • @MangaVation
    @MangaVation Рік тому +8

    Let’s talk about how, just as Shanks is a “FIGARLAND” Mihawk could be a descendant of the Nerona family 👀

    • @grizzlyadams8277
      @grizzlyadams8277 Рік тому +1

      Literally 0 evidence of that.

    • @MangaVation
      @MangaVation Рік тому

      @@grizzlyadams8277 I said COULD

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 Рік тому +1

      @@grizzlyadams8277 zuinesha, imu and mihawk all have simalr eyes

  • @jettom17
    @jettom17 Рік тому +4

    My 2 cents:
    I agree with Morj, Mihawk can be the World's Strongest Swordsman with Ethan being The Strongest Swordsman of Heaven.
    But there's no way in hell Figarland is stronger than Mihawk, because Garp exists.
    This is a man that has had a personal run in with Garp at Gods Valley, and he probably learned full and well Garp's attitude towards Celestial Dragons back then. Yet Garp is still alive, worse. Garp is allowed to openly disrespect the Celestial Dragons even in Mariejois.
    if Figarland or the Holy Knights were of equal or greater strength compared to Garp, he would be in Impel Down, or crucified.

    • @derrickmiles5240
      @derrickmiles5240 Рік тому

      It's not that simple. Garp is loved by the public, above any other person in the WG, so doing something like that would almost assuredly instigate rebellions across the world.

    • @phantomknight1395
      @phantomknight1395 Рік тому

      ​@@derrickmiles5240 They always make cover stories... If they did got away with Eliminating the entire nation of ohara with little to zero consequences how hard will it be to frame Garp?

    • @derrickmiles5240
      @derrickmiles5240 Рік тому +1

      @@phantomknight1395 Thats almost just as bad. Since Garp inspires the Marines. If he were made out be a fraud, how many Marines would quit? How would it affect recruitment? This is the very same reason why Garp couldn't help Ace.

    • @RogBearD
      @RogBearD Рік тому

      pov and actuality: my 2 braincells

  • @badmagik8957
    @badmagik8957 Рік тому +4

    Garling’s introduction gives me hope that we will get a full length God Valley flashback 🙏

  • @lionablaze8747
    @lionablaze8747 Рік тому +2

    First you downplayed kaido, now you're downplaying mihawk. This is crazy.

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 11 місяців тому +1

    i can perfectly see zoro fighting mihawk and achieving his dream after the final war. like as a story what will happen after the final war? mission accomplished the world is free the end? i can totally see an extra part at the end where the strawhats finally find the one piece. every strawhat fulfills their dream. maybe they disband and everyone settles back down somewhere, but the resolution will be much more peaceful than "we won the war". the ending of one piece i feel will have the same kind of vibe as what we were shown when roger found the one piece. so i dont think zoro necessarily needs to fight mihawk before the old guys

  • @Twice_The_A
    @Twice_The_A Рік тому +4

    I wouldn't say Kaido's title was PROVEN WRONG - as he was surpassed during the fight. Going into the fight he was the strongest in the world (as far as we know currently). It was evident (albeit after the fact) that WB was not the strongest going into the MF arc lol

    • @smartlearning6390
      @smartlearning6390 Рік тому +1

      no we know imu is stronger than kaido

    • @Twice_The_A
      @Twice_The_A Рік тому +1

      @@smartlearning6390 Imu is likely stronger than Kaido, yes. But Imu also technically doesn't exist lol. We're talking about the context of the series lol

  • @trehubb6144
    @trehubb6144 Рік тому +12

    I don't think Kaido epithet was proven wrong. No other non human race was superior to him👀

  • @divelsgun
    @divelsgun Рік тому +6

    all paint no haki 💀💀

  • @DiegoJandres
    @DiegoJandres 8 місяців тому +2

    Honestly the fans just need to wait and see and learn first before we make decisions like bro we first need to see their feats and what can they do first like chill just wait and see

    • @JD-ee4df
      @JD-ee4df 5 місяців тому

      You're right but it's funnier to call Mihawk a fraud

  • @djx_5430
    @djx_5430 Рік тому

    Slices a frozen tsunami in half
    Dices an asteroid
    Mihawk - "what more do you want from me!" 😢😭

  • @3dsmaster537
    @3dsmaster537 Рік тому +3

    This will be settled when we see whether Garling and the elder guy have black blades. If they don't, I'll bet everything that Mihawk is better than them.
    Black blades are supposed to represent true mastery of the sword, which is why Mihawk is the only living character to have done it

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 Рік тому

      Even if they have black blade, mihawk is still stronger because it’s confirmed in the manga and data books GGG he is the WSS it’s that simple

    • @bmoney3837
      @bmoney3837 Рік тому

      this will be settled when he actually fights against those two or has already in the past

    • @3dsmaster537
      @3dsmaster537 Рік тому

      @@bmoney3837 also true, but the black blade thing is enough to convince me

  • @surplexshadow1470
    @surplexshadow1470 Рік тому +10

    Kaido not worlds strongest creature is crazy morj

    • @O.G.3
      @O.G.3 Рік тому

      He's most likely not as strong as Imu is

    • @doflaapple1499
      @doflaapple1499 Рік тому

      Imu>>>kaido

  • @VictorDurand-me5yu
    @VictorDurand-me5yu Рік тому +11

    ??? How kaido title was proven to be false?? Kaido was the strongest in the world before his defeat/death, he wasn't a fraud like sorry but WB at MF who was yes clearly not the strongest man in the world

  • @tehreemfaisal9212
    @tehreemfaisal9212 Рік тому +2

    You do realise that no matter what happens Shanks is always gonna be stronger than Garling…..it’s just so easy to speculate if you’re a weeb and been watching shonen and anime in general for a long time……and we know that Mihawk was on par with Shanks if not stronger when it comes to Swordsmanship and only let go of him as a rival because of the one arm that he lost……so you better know now that MIHAWK IS NEVER GONNA BE A FRAUD

  • @sebastianjoaquin8916
    @sebastianjoaquin8916 Рік тому +1

    The world doent know about the power of the gorosei or the holy knights, Mihawk is the strongest known swordsman.