Your dog doing laps around you at the 5:40 mark is awesome. Great video - thanks for showing what it can do. Picked one up today with Home Depot's Cyber Monday sale!
I got the 3/8 m12 stubby and the new 1/2 mid torque. I think it really covers all the bases. I use the m12 stubby for everything and if it won't take something off I switch to the 1/2 mid torque
Just got the 1/2 inch this week. Seems like a great gun. Was effortless to loosen the lugs on my 4runner. I'm sure it will do mower blades just as easily. I assume mode one will tighten them up nicely.
These tools are beautiful. Would never buy another brand. I use mine intensively for automotive use. Crank bolts get obliterated with the torque, even Honda crank bolts! Definitely recommend them.
Been working on vehicles and motorcycles up to my age of 50. After recently replacing all ball joints on my f150 with manual tools I decided to pick up the 2962-20. Good to know that it should take off most of the tightest bolts on the truck should I need it to.
*I like the features of the LED light on both the drill and the **MyBest.Tools** . I also like the contractor bag where I carry drill bits and driver attachments. So far the batteries hold charges to my satisfaction.*
Another great video in a real world test. I sold my older model yesterday , and your 100 percent right when u say sweet spot.....150 to 450 ft lbs and this bad boy is it's element. Taking off bud & dayton wheels really isn't this tools cup of tea....if u do that everyday then you need the big boy. However on cars and light trucks this tool should give years of dependable service as long as you don't try to take the tracks off of a dozer everyday and beat it plum to death. Great vid Brian.
Yup, you are right Donny. I went to the Semi Truck just for a test, but the comments seem to think that I was meaning one could do that all day long with this tool. If I don't test a tool to its max, people complain, If I do test it to the max, people get the wrong idea. I cannot win. LOL
I went red a long time ago but still held onto some DeWalt, especially my 1/2" mid-torque because I just love it...but the 2962 is the one that can get me to part with it!
Those semi's lug nuts were probably put on with a 1 inch pneumatic so that was a brave task. For a stubby, I'm impressed with the breakaway torque tho. The DeWalt XR20 is a beast too, but much larger. After seeing this remove a 650ft/lbs bolt, I'm sold...
Great vid! I just bought a DeWalt 20v 4.0Ah 1/2 inch impact for about 220 dollars. I'm going to have to search your channel for this tool. You seem to do it all and I really appreciate your insight and thorough reviews. Always well done! :)
Great stuff man, I liked the review as I’m a pipefitter and use these types of impacts on the Victaulic fittings. I’ve gone through the first GEN and now I have the second GEN from Milwaukee but it may be time to upgrade.
I used my right angle impact on a new boiler job over the winter. Couldn't even use it at full power because it was really bending the ears on the fittings when we did.
After watching like 10 videos on this mid impact 3/8 I’m def getting it it’s a sweet spot for me working on cars and trucks from the engine bay to suspension work it can easily do both, for my larger trucks I have the 1/2 1400lb impact from Milwaukee thanks for this review helped my decision a lot
@@Dragon-hu7pt well i have the 1/2 already had for about 1 year now thing is a BEAST for 90% of automotive work but its big so on my smaller cars the impact doesn’t fit so i got the 3/8 since its smaller and still very powerful also i recently got the M12 stuby as well and that thing is also a beast for engine bay stuff and really tight spots
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Wow! Nice job. Question?? I was told the mid-torque models wouldn't cut it for removing lug nuts on car rims if they were any degree rusted or salt corroded. Do I really need to go to the next size up to play it safe? Thanks, Mark
Thanks for posting the video. Debating between the 3/8 and 1/2 drive. Any suggestions? Main usage will be work on a car, so wheels, suspension, brakes, etc. Thanks again.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you! Make sense. Can always get a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter as needed. Is the 1/2in on sale yet? I’m seeing back ordered on most sites.
@@alibajwa1377 Do like me brother get a 1/4 impact for most stuff then the 1/2 to cover the rest!! No need for a 3/8 then as there basically the same size!!
Thanks for the video! Suggestions for picking just one: the 3/8 or 1/2 for a DIY guy that does general maintenance for passenger cars and small pickup?
go for 1/2..im owning stubby and mid torque..im rarely using mid torque..stubby is more than enough..american tools is the best..im malaysian and work at my motorcyle workshop..
Yep I just spent 775 on this bad ass combo kit a bad ass Milwaukee drill and a set of gearwrench impact sockets for 127 and 3 adapters I'm gonna need I'm getting them today and I'm excited af!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Question guy’s I’m torn! If you needed an impact for general use for around the house and helping friends!! Would you get the 3/8 or 1/2? I’m not gonna use it a whole lot and I have a 1/4 impact for smaller stuff! Mainly be used for rotating wheel and maybe some suspension work!! Thanks!
So on a side note, I noticed you have changed (bad term to use) to using Sunex sockets? What is the reason vs the Tekton you were using before? You were the main reason I started going the Tekton route and was about to purchase some impact sockets and noticed the change. Any reasons/info that you can share even if its a PM? Thanks in advance.
i have 2 ah batteries for now, does the job but you can tell its not as strong. will still bust lugnuts while everythings on the ground on the parts car though
@@fike301 5.0 is more than enough to do most jobs. only the real heavy duty stuff will require an 8. irecently picked up some 5 ah battery's on amazon and they perk it up
Nice video. Minor quibble: Initially you said they both have 650 foot-pounds removal torque, but then later you say the 3/8th inch has 600 foot-pounds removal torque. These mid-torque tools are very compact and light-weight, useful for most jobs. But as you discovered, some of the lug nuts etc just won’t budge without something major like Milwaukee’s 1,400-foot pounds “nut-busting” high torque impact. I own both the 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch mid-torque impacts from Milwaukee. But if I had to do it all over again, I’d just buy the high-torque beast because the mid torque range just can’t bust all those nuts, especially when they are rusted or corroded as is usually the case. Thanks for the video. I love your channel.
I just got the DeWalt 1200ft/lb high torque 1/2 in and I have been combing through video comparisons, video tests, comments, etc. Your comment helped me justify staying with the DeWalt. I was considering going with the 650ft/lb Milwaukee Mid Torque option because its 4 inches smaller...fit in a couple more places but I decided the full torque DeWalt is what I will stick with
I don't get how you were saying it couldn't take off those lug nuts, but it can take off a giant tractor bolt torqued to 650ft-lbs. If your lugnuts are that tight, the brakes and wheels are probably trashed on that vehicle due to warping from being overtorqued.
C'mon dewalt, please do something to compete with this. As a forklift mechanic milwaukee is killing it with tools, all my dewalt stuff is becoming outdated.
Would a 1/2” with its higher torque fastening cause problems for bolts when tightening or loosening? I’m trying to decide between 3/8” or 1/2” and I’m trying to avoid something so powerful it breaks bolts.
You don't say what you will be working with, so it's hard to answer your question. So generally, besides the small increase in power between the 1/2 and 3/8, it boils down to your sockets. If they are all 1/2, then go with 1/2 and if all 3/8 then go with 3/8. Basically, get the impact wrench that matches your sockets so you don't have to resort to adapters. The impact wrench has 4 different power selections to use for removing and installing bolts. Selection #4 allows you tighten bolts and once it makes impact with the surface and reaches 35 ft lbs (according to specs), it stops.. With that said, I would only use an impact wrench to tighten bolts (snugged) on lug nuts, struts etc. and nothing too delicate. I'd never use an impact wrench to try and set a bolt's torque specs or to just drive a bolt until it's tight and be done with it. I'd break out the torque wrench.
Are the 5.0 batteries more than enough to for specs on the 1/2 impact or are the high output 8.0 batteries. I don't want to get the 5.0 battery in the kit and be disappointed with results
Six months ago I bit the bullet and bought a half-inch drive fuel 18 high torque I was pretty skeptical because I bought it to do my tires on my tractor trailer that thing is awesome but then my brother-in-law seen how good it was he went and Got a three-quarter inch drive LOL
I never have used the one key feature on any of my Milwaukee stuff. I can see the usefulness of that in a multi tool business setting but for personal use, not so much.
Personally, I like 1/2" drive. Most 1/2"socket sets go down to 10mm and you can go up to 2" if you want. I don't use 3/8" drive often, unless it is using a ratchet by hand..
@@juliodg2139 Do you plan to buy multiple sets of impact sockets? IMHO, but both in 1/2" and get one set of deep well and one shallow well in 1/2" and call it done.
Well, I plan to buy a 3/8 impact kit for the stubby since it is smaller to get into tight places, the 1/2 is for lug nuts, at this moment I don't have an impact kit, that's why I'll ask you before buy, I like your videos and your sincere suggestions, I appreciate that, thank you
I really love Milwaukee brand and would like to know how these match up against the ingersoll rand w5132 3/8. I'm a machinic and use the ingersoll daily for the last year. The ingersoll to me is worth it if you use the 5 amp battery, but when your carrying that much gun for extended periods, it gets taxing. I find my self going for air tools that are lighter and pack the same power.
I love my IR impacts and there is nothing that compares to them for their controls for speed or for the light control. The Milwaukee is lighter and more powerful, but it does not have the same feel. IR builds some nice tools!
I’m picking up the 12v stubby for my first impact as a home mechanic and diy guy. Should I go 1/2 or 3/8. Also why did you go friction ring over retention pin.
I am unsure why you would go M12 stubby for your first impact. It is hard for me to tell you what size anvil to go with the info you gave me. I like 1/3" because I can go from 10mm to 38mm. Now since you are going with a limited power impact, you won't need that. Retention pins in Milwaukee impacts are made for working at height, so to remove the socket you need to push the pin in each time with a pick. I want fast changing sockets in automotive, so I always go hog ring.
WorkshopAddict thanks for the quick reply. I wanted the 12 as I don’t do much work on my cars. Maybe breaks and some light work but I’m not too mechanically inclined to do more serious work. I do work on my pit bikes often and but don’t need much torque. I find myself using socked from 6-19 very often. But I was thinking of getting the 1/2 to help out on the tire changes. I bought the 3/8 hog pin. But my friend suggested I swap out for the 1/2 since it is already is the smallest impact Milwaukee sells. Once again thanks for your input. I really appreciate it
I WISH WISH WISH you would have compared the size of the mid torque unit to the high torque unit. I am trying to put a car kit together and the high torque doesn't fit in their ammo box right with all my accessories. A size comparison would have helped for the determination for the mid.
The ONLY thing that you might not light with the high torque is the weight. Using it day in and day out it would get old. But if it is a weekend warrior pro-sumer tool, you will love it. All the power you will ever need.
Have all AH of Ryobi 18v and M18 batteries. Between M18 Gen 2 - 1/2" mid and new Ryobi HP 1/2" , whats recommended for general use as in mower blades , truck lugs , brake/suspension components, deck lags, etc? Not daily/heavy abuse. Size wise is comparable
Mower blades could probably be done with a 2AH, truck lugs a 3CP or 5 AH, brakes a 5Ah, suspension a 8Ah or 9Ah, and deck lags a 5 to 9Ah depending on how long you need the battery to last (Runtime)
@@WorkshopAddict watched a test , seen they run close tqing/loosening. Ryobi is never steady with it's #s .. in your opinion is it worth the extra 70 for extra 1"+ shorter head , steady tq #s and easier battery storage? See the 3/8 compact with 12ah holds close as well or is that far fetching in these terms?
What would you recommend 3/8 or 1/2”? I am not a pro mechanic but I like to do as much as I can with my 4runner (some repairs or change tires or rotate them and things like that) I hope you can help me with a recommendation. Thanks in advance!
For the most part. You will find a few suspension bolts it wont touch, but if you have larger hand tools you can loosen them and use it to remove them after. It is probably your best choice.
There is one thing I wonder, why it is across the board, the battery powered impact drivers claim higher torque ratings than the 120V mains powered impact drivers? (most mains powered ones claim around 450 ft/lb for the torque).
would be cool to test but probably because battery tools are using new DC brushless high output motors and the companies are not fighting as hard to capture marketshare on mains powered tools.
I really wanted to like the gen 1 mid torque but I found it to struggle too much. My ingersoll rand with less break away does much better. Especially if I have to take off a wheel lock or use impact swivels. I have to reach for the high torque a lot. It sucks because I much prefer the size of the mid torques. Is there much difference between gen 1 and gen 2?
Ì think their not meant to be used at max like you said it did it. I only use my mid/high torque for undoing. They are good but dangerous. Thanks for the review.
How is something rated to 650 ft/lbs not able to pull off a lug nut ?! Doesn't make any sense to me since starting torques on lug nut hould be 450-500. You really think adaptor+socket robs 25% of the power?
You have to remember even the slightest amount of corrosion or rust will make it significantly harder to pull off. Also, there’s no telling what those lugs are actually torqued to since a lot of people/places will just hammer away with a 1” pneumatic and call it good.
I bought the 3/8 2960 with the 4 amp batteries provided (650 max, 550 working torque). I don't know if I got lemon or what, but that gun is nowhere near the advertised torque. I'm very disappointed because I paid close to $700 for the kit and I did not get a 600 lb/ft gun (it struggles to remove smaller fasteners too). My IR 3/8 with a lower torque rating was a complete monster and took anything off. This is my second bad experience with Milwaukee. I will never buy another.
Can these bust crank pulley bolts off of small block V8s? Im interested in the compact version for the M18 1/2 drive (2962) to do timing belts every few years and changing tires. Feel like the bigger 2767 may be overkill for my needs.
@@wesleym7927 My wife bought me the larger 1/2 for me for Christmas and it’s fantastic. Used it to do a few timing belts and take several sets of tires off. Battery is still showing fully charged 6 months later and it makes quick work of the most stubborn bolts. Definitely buying an M12 3/8 ratchet and a stubby 3/8 impact next.
@@WorkshopAddict ok just checking. Mistakes happen sometimes. I'm a milwaukee guy so I love seeing you really put these to the test and show how strong they really are.
@@jordancornwell4548 Roger that. I make quite a few mistakes, but this time I did not mess up there. I even went back off-camera and confirmed the results. With that said, those results are with a larger bolt than what someone would use to rate this, so I feel confident this tool will exceed specs in most places.
I linked to Tool Nut in the description because they had them for 219... Still a great tool and Acme might have free shipping to make up for the difference in price.
I would like to see a video comparison of the gen 1 mid-torque and the gen 2 mid-torque. I think there's a lot of people out there that own the gen 1 that would like to see a comparison in order to make a decision on whether or not to buy the new gen 2. Interested to see if the gen 2 is more powerful than the gen 1 and if so, how much more powerful. I know we have the specs., but the specs don't always tell you everything in real world use.
So I would assume you would be using this for tire removal only? I know some Lube Places seem like they fasten oil drain plugs with these. LOL. IMHO, 1/2" would be the way to go because of the large variety of affordable sockets from 10 to 32mm. You can get smaller and larger, but sets of those sizes are affordable and would work for most of what you are doing.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks for the reply! And yes, right now it’s mostly tire work. I just wanted a good option I can grow with. Eventually doing bigger jobs with it.
I've got to ask again 😂 Is this better than the Ridgid mid-torque 1/2 that I talked my friend into buying based off your review of it a year or so ago?
Today September 1st 2021, the Milwaukee mid torque + 5ah battery is selling for (219 +tax at home depot). [The dewalt mid torque + tool bag + 5ah + 3/8 dcf890 150 ft/lb impact wrench + charger dcb107 ] is selling for 250 +tax at Lowe's...
I have both the 3/8 and the 1/2 gen 1 mid torque so I'm excited to be able to test both gen 1 to the new gen 2 models of the mid torques @WorkshopAddict
Either one will do you well. I personally bought both because the heavier 1/2” sockets will aid in removing stubborn fasteners that the 3/8” may not be able to remove. It comes down to preference really.
A 5.0 will still provide enough power to do what you need unless you’re consistently dealing with fasteners torqued to 500+ lb-ft, at which point you should be using the high torque anyway.
And also I’d like to add that the 3.0 high output and the 8.0 high output would give you the same performance because they’re high output batteries. A 5.0cpo would outlast a 3.0 high output but the 3.0HO would run laps around the 5.0 cpo performance wise
Wrong, 3.0ho and 8.0ho will not have equal power. More capacity of the 8 ah will have much less voltage sag while under load therefore creating effectively more power on hand. Same being said for the 12 ah which would be even better than the 8
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Your dog doing laps around you at the 5:40 mark is awesome. Great video - thanks for showing what it can do. Picked one up today with Home Depot's Cyber Monday sale!
Thanks for the heads up I missed the dog doing laps the first time
I got the 3/8 m12 stubby and the new 1/2 mid torque. I think it really covers all the bases. I use the m12 stubby for everything and if it won't take something off I switch to the 1/2 mid torque
Just got the 1/2 inch this week. Seems like a great gun. Was effortless to loosen the lugs on my 4runner. I'm sure it will do mower blades just as easily. I assume mode one will tighten them up nicely.
Awesome! Just picked up this exact cordless impact wrench at Homedepot along with 2 6.0 Mah batteries. Can't wait to use it. Thanks for sharing!
These tools are beautiful. Would never buy another brand. I use mine intensively for automotive use. Crank bolts get obliterated with the torque, even Honda crank bolts! Definitely recommend them.
Been working on vehicles and motorcycles up to my age of 50. After recently replacing all ball joints on my f150 with manual tools I decided to pick up the 2962-20. Good to know that it should take off most of the tightest bolts on the truck should I need it to.
manual tools are a thing of the past when you start going battery, really is a timesaver
*I like the features of the LED light on both the drill and the **MyBest.Tools** . I also like the contractor bag where I carry drill bits and driver attachments. So far the batteries hold charges to my satisfaction.*
Another great video in a real world test. I sold my older model yesterday , and your 100 percent right when u say sweet spot.....150 to 450 ft lbs and this bad boy is it's element. Taking off bud & dayton wheels really isn't this tools cup of tea....if u do that everyday then you need the big boy. However on cars and light trucks this tool should give years of dependable service as long as you don't try to take the tracks off of a dozer everyday and beat it plum to death. Great vid Brian.
Yup, you are right Donny. I went to the Semi Truck just for a test, but the comments seem to think that I was meaning one could do that all day long with this tool. If I don't test a tool to its max, people complain, If I do test it to the max, people get the wrong idea. I cannot win. LOL
@@WorkshopAddict just keep doing what your doing brother.....
Videos like yours just saved me money. Was Going to buy both the 1/2 and 3/8. Since I’m a 1/2 a diy mechanic the 3/8s is more than enough Thanks
Glad I could help
I went red a long time ago but still held onto some DeWalt, especially my 1/2" mid-torque because I just love it...but the 2962 is the one that can get me to part with it!
Что тебе мешает иметь сразу два и DeWalt и Milwaukee ??
The dog running around in the video hilarious. Great video showing what they're capable of.
Those semi's lug nuts were probably put on with a 1 inch pneumatic so that was a brave task. For a stubby, I'm impressed with the breakaway torque tho. The DeWalt XR20 is a beast too, but much larger. After seeing this remove a 650ft/lbs bolt, I'm sold...
We use a 1" to take them off and a 3/4" to put them on. HUGE task for it to accomplish with an adapter.
Great video. Just a note wish you compared the 3/8 to the 1/2. I’m sure there are many who are interested in which one is the better choice
Just got the 3/8 M 18 stubby and the 1/2 M18 mid torque and they are phenomenal
Great vid! I just bought a DeWalt 20v 4.0Ah 1/2 inch impact for about 220 dollars.
I'm going to have to search your channel for this tool.
You seem to do it all and I really appreciate your insight and thorough reviews.
Always well done! :)
Awesome! Thank you!
The 8 dislike are from DeWalt!😂
17 Dewalt haters now. 😁
@@404notfound..... 30 dewalt now
35 now.🤣
Dewalt haters keep climbing 🤣
Just ordered this kit with battery and charger for 199 at Home Depot but will return it cause the new dewalt Dcf891 leaving this one in the dust.
They finally put the lights on the front like mostly all of us wanted ! I picked me up a mid torque like this new pne yesterday I love it
Great stuff man, I liked the review as I’m a pipefitter and use these types of impacts on the Victaulic fittings. I’ve gone through the first GEN and now I have the second GEN from Milwaukee but it may be time to upgrade.
I used my right angle impact on a new boiler job over the winter. Couldn't even use it at full power because it was really bending the ears on the fittings when we did.
After watching like 10 videos on this mid impact 3/8 I’m def getting it it’s a sweet spot for me working on cars and trucks from the engine bay to suspension work it can easily do both, for my larger trucks I have the 1/2 1400lb impact from Milwaukee thanks for this review helped my decision a lot
Why u decide the 3:8ths and not the 1/2
@@Dragon-hu7pt well i have the 1/2 already had for about 1 year now thing is a BEAST for 90% of automotive work but its big so on my smaller cars the impact doesn’t fit so i got the 3/8 since its smaller and still very powerful also i recently got the M12 stuby as well and that thing is also a beast for engine bay stuff and really tight spots
@@saitekina_og9271 If you could only pick one and didn’t have an impact would you go for the 3/8 or 1/2?
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
This was a great video! Really happy to see the back to back of torqued down to removal!
Wow! Nice job. Question?? I was told the mid-torque models wouldn't cut it for removing lug nuts on car rims if they were any degree rusted or salt corroded. Do I really need to go to the next size up to play it safe? Thanks, Mark
Thanks for posting the video. Debating between the 3/8 and 1/2 drive. Any suggestions? Main usage will be work on a car, so wheels, suspension, brakes, etc. Thanks again.
1/2" because it allows for larger fasteners and the sockets are heavier.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you! Make sense. Can always get a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter as needed. Is the 1/2in on sale yet? I’m seeing back ordered on most sites.
www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-Gen-2-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Mid-Torque-1-2-in-Impact-Wrench-w-Friction-Ring-Tool-Only-2962-20/313511878
@@alibajwa1377 Do like me brother get a 1/4 impact for most stuff then the 1/2 to cover the rest!! No need for a 3/8 then as there basically the same size!!
Thanks for the video! Suggestions for picking just one: the 3/8 or 1/2 for a DIY guy that does general maintenance for passenger cars and small pickup?
go for 1/2..im owning stubby and mid torque..im rarely using mid torque..stubby is more than enough..american tools is the best..im malaysian and work at my motorcyle workshop..
@@afiqmohd7661 Yep, I just got it the other day and used it for some lug nuts...My next purchase is the stubby, thx!
Yep I just spent 775 on this bad ass combo kit a bad ass Milwaukee drill and a set of gearwrench impact sockets for 127 and 3 adapters I'm gonna need I'm getting them today and I'm excited af!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations Bud!
I used to think video gamers were nerds, now I realize gear heads are too, just a different variation.
Question guy’s I’m torn! If you needed an impact for general use for around the house and helping friends!! Would you get the 3/8 or 1/2? I’m not gonna use it a whole lot and I have a 1/4 impact for smaller stuff! Mainly be used for rotating wheel and maybe some suspension work!! Thanks!
1/2" without question. You can go from 10mm on up in 1/2 without much expense.
@@WorkshopAddict Awesome that’s what I was leaning towards and your comment sealed the deal! Thanks brother!!
Between this and the Dewalt 891, which one is more durable and dependable?
Good vid! Do you have a preference between the 3/8 and 1/2”? Thanks!!!
I like 1/2" because of the wide range of sockets available at good prices. I can go down to 10mm and up to 34 without issue.
So on a side note, I noticed you have changed (bad term to use) to using Sunex sockets? What is the reason vs the Tekton you were using before? You were the main reason I started going the Tekton route and was about to purchase some impact sockets and noticed the change. Any reasons/info that you can share even if its a PM? Thanks in advance.
Check out Tekton reviews. They're really good impact sockets. Bought myself a set and are great
I’m curious if it would get closer to 500 ft-lbs tightening rating with the 8.0ah battery instead of the CP3.0?
I suggest not going below 5 amp batteries for the mid torque or you start losing the rate specs quicker as the batteries die.
i have 2 ah batteries for now, does the job but you can tell its not as strong. will still bust lugnuts while everythings on the ground on the parts car though
So are the 5.0 more than enough or the 8.0 the way to go... Don't wanna get the 5.0 in the kit and be disappointed with results
@@fike301 5.0 is more than enough to do most jobs. only the real heavy duty stuff will require an 8. irecently picked up some 5 ah battery's on amazon and they perk it up
Very impressive that it did 650 with a high output 8.0 battery @WorkshopAddict
Nice video. Minor quibble: Initially you said they both have 650 foot-pounds removal torque, but then later you say the 3/8th inch has 600 foot-pounds removal torque.
These mid-torque tools are very compact and light-weight, useful for most jobs. But as you discovered, some of the lug nuts etc just won’t budge without something major like Milwaukee’s 1,400-foot pounds “nut-busting” high torque impact.
I own both the 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch mid-torque impacts from Milwaukee. But if I had to do it all over again, I’d just buy the high-torque beast because the mid torque range just can’t bust all those nuts, especially when they are rusted or corroded as is usually the case.
Thanks for the video. I love your channel.
I just got the DeWalt 1200ft/lb high torque 1/2 in and I have been combing through video comparisons, video tests, comments, etc. Your comment helped me justify staying with the DeWalt. I was considering going with the 650ft/lb Milwaukee Mid Torque option because its 4 inches smaller...fit in a couple more places but I decided the full torque DeWalt is what I will stick with
I don't get how you were saying it couldn't take off those lug nuts, but it can take off a giant tractor bolt torqued to 650ft-lbs. If your lugnuts are that tight, the brakes and wheels are probably trashed on that vehicle due to warping from being overtorqued.
Been looking into it and what happens is the adapter he was using really dampens the blow from the anvil in the tool causing it to lose power
Great video, I was searching for a comparison from the 1/2" driver & the 3/8". Thanks
C'mon dewalt, please do something to compete with this. As a forklift mechanic milwaukee is killing it with tools, all my dewalt stuff is becoming outdated.
Grass is always greener on the other side.. Or redder
Milwaukee has better impacts and dewalt has better saws.
DCF894, similar specs and size, been out for over a year.
just go with whats best, dont be a loyalist. clouds judgement... however the red is great. lmfao
@@WorkshopAddict I couldn’t agree more
Would a 1/2” with its higher torque fastening cause problems for bolts when tightening or loosening? I’m trying to decide between 3/8” or 1/2” and I’m trying to avoid something so powerful it breaks bolts.
You don't say what you will be working with, so it's hard to answer your question. So generally, besides the small increase in power between the 1/2 and 3/8, it boils down to your sockets. If they are all 1/2, then go with 1/2 and if all 3/8 then go with 3/8. Basically, get the impact wrench that matches your sockets so you don't have to resort to adapters. The impact wrench has 4 different power selections to use for removing and installing bolts. Selection #4 allows you tighten bolts and once it makes impact with the surface and reaches 35 ft lbs (according to specs), it stops.. With that said, I would only use an impact wrench to tighten bolts (snugged) on lug nuts, struts etc. and nothing too delicate. I'd never use an impact wrench to try and set a bolt's torque specs or to just drive a bolt until it's tight and be done with it. I'd break out the torque wrench.
1/2" or 3/8" for DIY mechanic and around the house?
Are they bringing out a ‘one key’ version of this mid torque impact?
Since these came out are you still using the Dewalt 12V Xtreme impact wrench to do small jobs or are these your go to tools now..👍😊😊
You cannot beat the Dewalt 12-volt Extreme for small jobs. I use that daily and nothing has taken its place.
Are the 5.0 batteries more than enough to for specs on the 1/2 impact or are the high output 8.0 batteries. I don't want to get the 5.0 battery in the kit and be disappointed with results
The 5Ah will work, but it will not get you to full spec. About 80%
@@WorkshopAddict thanks, getting ready to order the 2962 with 8.0 battery and rapid charger... Switching from DeWalt
Six months ago I bit the bullet and bought a half-inch drive fuel 18 high torque I was pretty skeptical because I bought it to do my tires on my tractor trailer that thing is awesome but then my brother-in-law seen how good it was he went and Got a three-quarter inch drive LOL
I never have used the one key feature on any of my Milwaukee stuff. I can see the usefulness of that in a multi tool business setting but for personal use, not so much.
Can't wait to get mine.. I ordered both the 3/8 and the 1/2 mid torques @WorkshopAddict
I liked the video, I think mid torque is the best option, I want to buy this one, which is better to buy 1/2 or 3/8?
Personally, I like 1/2" drive. Most 1/2"socket sets go down to 10mm and you can go up to 2" if you want. I don't use 3/8" drive often, unless it is using a ratchet by hand..
I appreciate your response, I plan to buy mid in 1/2 and stubby 3/8, what do you think?
@@juliodg2139 Do you plan to buy multiple sets of impact sockets? IMHO, but both in 1/2" and get one set of deep well and one shallow well in 1/2" and call it done.
Well, I plan to buy a 3/8 impact kit for the stubby since it is smaller to get into tight places, the 1/2 is for lug nuts, at this moment I don't have an impact kit, that's why I'll ask you before buy, I like your videos and your sincere suggestions, I appreciate that, thank you
I really love Milwaukee brand and would like to know how these match up against the ingersoll rand w5132 3/8. I'm a machinic and use the ingersoll daily for the last year. The ingersoll to me is worth it if you use the 5 amp battery, but when your carrying that much gun for extended periods, it gets taxing. I find my self going for air tools that are lighter and pack the same power.
I love my IR impacts and there is nothing that compares to them for their controls for speed or for the light control. The Milwaukee is lighter and more powerful, but it does not have the same feel. IR builds some nice tools!
I’m picking up the 12v stubby for my first impact as a home mechanic and diy guy. Should I go 1/2 or 3/8. Also why did you go friction ring over retention pin.
I am unsure why you would go M12 stubby for your first impact. It is hard for me to tell you what size anvil to go with the info you gave me. I like 1/3" because I can go from 10mm to 38mm. Now since you are going with a limited power impact, you won't need that. Retention pins in Milwaukee impacts are made for working at height, so to remove the socket you need to push the pin in each time with a pick. I want fast changing sockets in automotive, so I always go hog ring.
WorkshopAddict thanks for the quick reply. I wanted the 12 as I don’t do much work on my cars. Maybe breaks and some light work but I’m not too mechanically inclined to do more serious work. I do work on my pit bikes often and but don’t need much torque. I find myself using socked from 6-19 very often. But I was thinking of getting the 1/2 to help out on the tire changes. I bought the 3/8 hog pin. But my friend suggested I swap out for the 1/2 since it is already is the smallest impact Milwaukee sells. Once again thanks for your input. I really appreciate it
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How does it compare to the Mid Torque Octane Ridgid? They have similar specs on paper.
I WISH WISH WISH you would have compared the size of the mid torque unit to the high torque unit. I am trying to put a car kit together and the high torque doesn't fit in their ammo box right with all my accessories. A size comparison would have helped for the determination for the mid.
I just purchased the high torque milwaukee, I'm wondering if its over kill... and maybe down grade to mid torque
The ONLY thing that you might not light with the high torque is the weight. Using it day in and day out it would get old. But if it is a weekend warrior pro-sumer tool, you will love it. All the power you will ever need.
Have all AH of Ryobi 18v and M18 batteries. Between M18 Gen 2 - 1/2" mid and new Ryobi HP 1/2" , whats recommended for general use as in mower blades , truck lugs , brake/suspension components, deck lags, etc? Not daily/heavy abuse. Size wise is comparable
Mower blades could probably be done with a 2AH, truck lugs a 3CP or 5 AH, brakes a 5Ah, suspension a 8Ah or 9Ah, and deck lags a 5 to 9Ah depending on how long you need the battery to last (Runtime)
@@WorkshopAddict watched a test , seen they run close tqing/loosening. Ryobi is never steady with it's #s .. in your opinion is it worth the extra 70 for extra 1"+ shorter head , steady tq #s and easier battery storage? See the 3/8 compact with 12ah holds close as well or is that far fetching in these terms?
I think if you let the tool work on tightening the bolt for longer, like it does when loosening it will get a lot closer if not exceeding the specs
Maybe, I watched the socket and could see it stopped moving.
Just pulled the trigger on the 1/2", Amazon has them on sale, $177... Tool only.
How does the 6ah HO and the 8ah HO batteries compare to each other on this impact? I have a 3-HO and 6-HO but not an 8-HO.
6 and 8 are pretty much the same. The 8 will have a longer runtime... Thats all.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you for the reply. Just ordered the 1/2in.
You will like it!
Check out torque test on UA-cam
The 6AH has more power then the 8AH
@@apa7611 why would the 6 have more then the 8? Same id understand but how can it have less?
The dogs breakaway from human torque was at least 700 paw/lbs
did you use the 3/8 gun or 1/2 gun to loose the 500ft bolt?
1/2"
What would you recommend 3/8 or 1/2”? I am not a pro mechanic but I like to do as much as I can with my 4runner (some repairs or change tires or rotate them and things like that) I hope you can help me with a recommendation. Thanks in advance!
IMHO, hand tools are 3/8 and impacts are 1/2".
So I got a Toyota Tacoma and am looking for an all around impact. Would this do the job on basically anything from suspension to lugs?
For the most part. You will find a few suspension bolts it wont touch, but if you have larger hand tools you can loosen them and use it to remove them after. It is probably your best choice.
I just order
1. Mid-torque M-18 1/2
2. M18 fuel gen 3rd 3/8
In Home Depot sale both only tool $ 299 ✅✅✅
There is one thing I wonder, why it is across the board, the battery powered impact drivers claim higher torque ratings than the 120V mains powered impact drivers? (most mains powered ones claim around 450 ft/lb for the torque).
would be cool to test but probably because battery tools are using new DC brushless high output motors and the companies are not fighting as hard to capture marketshare on mains powered tools.
I really wanted to like the gen 1 mid torque but I found it to struggle too much. My ingersoll rand with less break away does much better. Especially if I have to take off a wheel lock or use impact swivels. I have to reach for the high torque a lot. It sucks because I much prefer the size of the mid torques. Is there much difference between gen 1 and gen 2?
Do you have an update??
Ì think their not meant to be used at max like you said it did it.
I only use my mid/high torque for undoing. They are good but dangerous.
Thanks for the review.
Think it will take off a 250 ft lbs crank pulley bolt ?
It should.
You just made me buy one sir. Thank you.
Best tools Milwaukee Makes. Recip and Impacts.
How is something rated to 650 ft/lbs not able to pull off a lug nut ?! Doesn't make any sense to me since starting torques on lug nut hould be 450-500. You really think adaptor+socket robs 25% of the power?
You have to remember even the slightest amount of corrosion or rust will make it significantly harder to pull off. Also, there’s no telling what those lugs are actually torqued to since a lot of people/places will just hammer away with a 1” pneumatic and call it good.
I bought the 3/8 2960 with the 4 amp batteries provided (650 max, 550 working torque). I don't know if I got lemon or what, but that gun is nowhere near the advertised torque. I'm very disappointed because I paid close to $700 for the kit and I did not get a 600 lb/ft gun (it struggles to remove smaller fasteners too). My IR 3/8 with a lower torque rating was a complete monster and took anything off. This is my second bad experience with Milwaukee. I will never buy another.
Can these bust crank pulley bolts off of small block V8s? Im interested in the compact version for the M18 1/2 drive (2962) to do timing belts every few years and changing tires. Feel like the bigger 2767 may be overkill for my needs.
Shouldn’t be a problem!!
@@wesleym7927 My wife bought me the larger 1/2 for me for Christmas and it’s fantastic. Used it to do a few timing belts and take several sets of tires off. Battery is still showing fully charged 6 months later and it makes quick work of the most stubborn bolts.
Definitely buying an M12 3/8 ratchet and a stubby 3/8 impact next.
@@marcochavanne awesome 💪
What torque wrench do you use and/or recommend?
The Gearwrench XP's are awesome!
Thanks!
You sure you had it on reverse with the 3.0 and 5.0 battery? Looked like you might have forgotten to change it till you got to the 8.0.
I am sure.
@@WorkshopAddict ok just checking. Mistakes happen sometimes. I'm a milwaukee guy so I love seeing you really put these to the test and show how strong they really are.
@@jordancornwell4548 Roger that. I make quite a few mistakes, but this time I did not mess up there. I even went back off-camera and confirmed the results. With that said, those results are with a larger bolt than what someone would use to rate this, so I feel confident this tool will exceed specs in most places.
Thanks for the video! Just bought one after watching. Found the 1/2” for $239 at Acme tools.
I linked to Tool Nut in the description because they had them for 219... Still a great tool and Acme might have free shipping to make up for the difference in price.
@@WorkshopAddict well don’t I feel stupid.
Acme had them in stock. Tool nut is a pre-order ships December 31st. I guess early gratification is worth $20. 😎👍
@@Lakecenterlawncare oh hell yeah!
I would like to see a video comparison of the gen 1 mid-torque and the gen 2 mid-torque. I think there's a lot of people out there that own the gen 1 that would like to see a comparison in order to make a decision on whether or not to buy the new gen 2. Interested to see if the gen 2 is more powerful than the gen 1 and if so, how much more powerful. I know we have the specs., but the specs don't always tell you everything in real world use.
ua-cam.com/video/Nv0YRvjS2cc/v-deo.html @ 444Helmut
@@MrCobra762 Thanks for the link!
So the mids don’t connect to one key?
They give great performance for car and truck work.
Would you recommend this for changing tires almost all day?
Yes, I think it would do well.
No...
When will they come to Australia?
Why doesn't the mid torque have one key??
Which one would you recommend for a lube tech?
So I would assume you would be using this for tire removal only? I know some Lube Places seem like they fasten oil drain plugs with these. LOL. IMHO, 1/2" would be the way to go because of the large variety of affordable sockets from 10 to 32mm. You can get smaller and larger, but sets of those sizes are affordable and would work for most of what you are doing.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks for the reply! And yes, right now it’s mostly tire work. I just wanted a good option I can grow with. Eventually doing bigger jobs with it.
@@jonathancaldentey4615 This Mid-Torque in 1/2" drive will take you into light suspension work. Good pick to satisfy you now and into the future.
Why does the battery matter?
The more cells in the battery the more power you have
I don’t think it has anything to do with the 8amp our battery but the high out put batteries just offer more juice
Nice tractor! I have a farmall 504 myself.
I've got to ask again 😂 Is this better than the Ridgid mid-torque 1/2 that I talked my friend into buying based off your review of it a year or so ago?
Yes it is in the real world all day long.
What about someone doing yearly tires rotations at home? Is the Compact sufficient?
Yes, for most vehicles it will do that job without issues.
Today September 1st 2021, the Milwaukee mid torque + 5ah battery is selling for (219 +tax at home depot). [The dewalt mid torque + tool bag + 5ah + 3/8 dcf890 150 ft/lb impact wrench + charger dcb107 ] is selling for 250 +tax at Lowe's...
Today 1/31/2022,Milwaukee mid torque $104.8-tax at home depot(buy more save more)
I have both the 3/8 and the 1/2 gen 1 mid torque so I'm excited to be able to test both gen 1 to the new gen 2 models of the mid torques @WorkshopAddict
Very impressive video on the demo on them lug nuts @WorkshopAddict
Asking a lot out of a mid-torque to remove rusted on semi lug nuts. Milwaukee 2867-20 would be more suited for that kind of work.
I’ll bet these make quick work of the rear hub nuts on that mustang!
Would love to see a comparison between the Milwaukee 1/2" I.W 2962-20 and Makita 1/2" I.W XWT17Z.
Makita is rated a bit higher on removal torque. Was looking for a comparison of these brands but no luck. 520/720 for the makita.
I have the Makita DTW1002, and boy, is it powerhouse!
So would it be better to get a 3/8 or 1/2?
Either one will do you well. I personally bought both because the heavier 1/2” sockets will aid in removing stubborn fasteners that the 3/8” may not be able to remove. It comes down to preference really.
Wait so the so higher amp battery makes it more power ? Sorry new to the tool world
In some tools a higher AH battery will make more power, not in all of them.
would i need the 8amp + to get the full power then :( darn i ordered a 5amp
A 5.0 will still provide enough power to do what you need unless you’re consistently dealing with fasteners torqued to 500+ lb-ft, at which point you should be using the high torque anyway.
And also I’d like to add that the 3.0 high output and the 8.0 high output would give you the same performance because they’re high output batteries. A 5.0cpo would outlast a 3.0 high output but the 3.0HO would run laps around the 5.0 cpo performance wise
Wrong, 3.0ho and 8.0ho will not have equal power. More capacity of the 8 ah will have much less voltage sag while under load therefore creating effectively more power on hand. Same being said for the 12 ah which would be even better than the 8
The CP3.0 gives essentially the same power as the standard 5.0 battery. The 6.0 is the best performer of the bunch on these guns.
I can’t wait to get mine 👍🏻
Just got mine love it for tire changing 👍🏽
Is the m18, 18 volts?
Yes
Using a regular battery (cp)on a fuel tool and expecting great results is hilarious there’s a reason the sell them with High Output batteries
great review. thank you!!!!
thanks for all the info