Most don't know that it is designed for hard Alpine weather. You can operate it with winter gloves.. that's why the safety has edges, to be easily gripped. That's also why the trigger is designed the way it is 😉 Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 😀 Corvus, another Austrian company, is excellent.
@@smokingcrab2290 Also it is designed to be field-serviceable and good for months/years long guerilla warfare. Hence why it carries its own service tools inside of it, can be field stripped and services by anbody, no batteries in the optics and only uses domestic parts. Austrias defense doctrine during the Cold War was basically: Make the mountains talk Austrian, just like the snow speaks Finish and the jungle Vietnamese. We could not have stopped the USSR, but we would have made holding the country very costly through a never ending insurgency.
@@AntonGudenus what can you say about the use in the Russian winter? I own aug a2, I use it on hunting in autumn in Kazakhstan, our winter is worse than it happens in Russia( -40 degrees Celsius), In our state aug is a very very expensive weapon and I use it with caution, I feel sorry to scratch it, drop it, etc. I had to modify the trigger mechanism and even sharpening the firing pin tale, because it is misfired from the beginning
@@i-tunes2025 I have never used it in that low temperature. The AUG was not designed for the Russian winter, but Autrian mountains (where you generally expect a minimum of around -20°C). But if you get regualr missfiring, there might be some condensation forming on the inside of the gun, that then is freezing. Every time you take the very cold gun into a warmer space, condensation will form. If you then don't give it the time to evaporate and cool the gun again, things will seize up. Are you by any chance taking the gun from warm to cold spaces regularly? Like maybe a car
Well done! The quirks of bullpups are simply a matter of familiarity and practice. James Reeves also has some videos on TFBTV from when he went to the Steyr Academy and learned how to make the AUG dance! My first preference is the X95, for the controls and overall layout, as well as the ease of field stripping (just open the buttplate and the guts drop out), but totally respect the AUG. I hope to get to spend time with one eventually.
The production value of this video is great, i thought im watching a much bigger channel lol. I really enjoyed this video. Im going to be buying my own AUG very soon, so the hype is real. I also appreciate that you hearted everyones comment.
All the upgrades you mentioned, I wholeheartedly agree.......and have done so. It makes it a whole different level of weapon. Hats of to Corvus Defensio & Rat Worx, they got it right.
To address the lack of real estate, either go Underworld arms AUG handguard or clawgear handguard (if you can find one) both of these keep the QD barrel feature and can be used with integrated sights and rail systems
The Australian Army have been using it for years as there main weapon. Manufactured by Lithgow Arms, Australia. They recently updated it - a wicked new version. Wish we could buy it in the US.
I've had mine for almost 8 years now. I got the flat top with an old Eotech holo on it. Ran thousands of rounds through it. Never 1 single issue, jam, nothing. Flawless. Am I an operator? No. Should this be the only or first semi-auto rifle you own? Probably not, but maybe. Would I use this thing in any situation? F to the yes! It shoots just as nice as any AR I've ever shot and being such a short package, makes it an easy choice. Awesome video my man! F the haters!
totally agree man, the only issue I've ever had was a failure to feed with 1 ammo type and it was a single round out of the 400 rounds of it I shot. other than that totally reliable and incredibly fun, when it comes to bullpups its tough to beat the AUG
I have a gen.1 AUG from Interarms, an old CIA front company in Virginia. It has a serial number in the low 900s. After a few thousand rounds it still runs flawlessly. Love that chrome lined barrel! Garand Thumb's extreme cold test of assault rifles showed the AUG one of the best in resisting freezing. SO THERE!
having an old school AUG is cool enough, but yours being from a CIA front company is probably the coolest AUG prestige I can think of. I'm jealous, now ill be searching out an interarms import when I finally commit to getting the classic AUG hahaha
@@cloneordie3828 Best of luck on an Interarms AUG. They do exist. And if'n I don't use mine to defend the nation in the aftermath of the2024 election I mat even sell it to you.. ;o)
Can confirm. No problems or even any "additional procedure" for our alpine troops. Only thing to really, really pay attention to: When you are on training for alpine warfare, make sure to get rid of your protective gloves when getting the barrel out after a moderate number of rounds. You do NOT want the hot barrel to fall down into the snow or onto the glacier, unless you want to shoot around corners, hahahaha.
DO IT! AUGs are great, ar15s are cool but they are everywhere, the AUG just has a special something. It always turns heads at the range, generates a lot of interest and its a ton of fun.
The ones using NV with the AUG often used the small bit a rail on the right side, hanging it vertically before all the big rail options were around that now extend way forward like on the M2 and what used to be the swat config. I've got an older AUG variant, kinda like an A2 but an SA stock. It still has the hump on the stock and the A2 rail of Corvus won't fit based on the radius of the rail on the underside. I'd either have to change one or the other to make it fit. Thing is my rail where the original scope slides on has only the spring detent but no additional screw hole too. Btw...If anyone in a mag restricted shit state wants an AUG, get the nato version. It may suck with some aftermarket stuff but at least you don't have to buy Steyr's 9+1 mags that don't have the button on the bottom to take them apart. The bottoms are connected with roll pins. I shit you not. I sadly have no other choice. I'm going with a rds & 4x magnifier combo. Did you have a sleepy finger from the gas yet? Heard some lost the feeling in their thumb for a few days. Maybe get that manticor mlok bit of rail to have better lefty handling. I had some Norma where the neck got damaged on ejection. But I can't say if that is the case with the new barrels, mine is still chrome lined.
Dude i like this video man! I'm just now getting into the Aug (I'm building a nylaug) and I'm really excited so this video as really relatable and told me a lot of good info! Hope ur channel blows up 🍻
My absolute favorite gun I own, the Corvus charging handle and brass deflector make such a huge difference. The gun is actually peak when you change out certain parts of it, I would choose it over an AR any day. I just wish people would be more open minded and realize that AR isn't always the answer (I am severely Augtistic).
I agree dude, after swapping out a few of the stock parts that the haters always mention, it preforms above and beyond my expectations. I'm looking into getting the corvus charging handle in the near future.
@cloneordie3828 the Manticore Arms charging handle is a great option. It folds away and it is angled down to keep the hand away from the flat-top rail/optic frame.
Thanks, just bought and Aug. I really like it so far. Looking to upgrade it so I can love it. I appreciate your video showing some of the better/important upgradss
even without the upgrades its still fantastic. I ran mine for 2+ years in stock configuration and it was great. The upgrades I mention are just to make it better, a stock trigger and mag release are perfectly fine.
I was issued and AUG. RNZIR. Here in the US civilian firearms market, they were and still are a lot more expensive than I'd thought when I wanted to buy my setup when I was in. And the Sig 226. But since I was in, the NZ army went to an AR platform and a gen 4 17.
you can sometimes find the picatinny railed models on sale for below $1,700 but the original STG77 AUGs with the built in optic are super extensive collector items now, its a bummer
@@cloneordie3828 I'd rather a NATO stock A3, for which my gun store owner is currently searching for me, and for which I've already thrown money at. The original receiver with the 1.5x optic, it'd be nice, but not nearly as usable as having the ability to just throw whatever optic you want on it. I've also heard that the NATO stock AUGs don't have a bolt release, about which I'm not too disappointed, because I wasn't trained with a Steyr that had a bolt catch. Not to say that it wouldn't be nice, but that isn't as big of a deal to me as having a picatinny rail to throw any optic that I want on it over having the 1.5x donut of death.
My only complaint is that a lot of the cool Corvus stuff is not compatible with the AR mag version and for rail estate you can try the Silver Star Armory 90 degree side rail, it replaces the small 45 degree rail with a longer 90 degree rail
Corvus defensivo make extra long picatinny rail and a spezial rail vor the austrian police with extra qd mounts .....i know it because i have one ....greetings from austria
@@cloneordie3828 now you can buy IT als a Special bmi edition(Austria Police) in Austria .i was buying my Aug before that time ...i have a 20" Aug with extra long corvus rail and Other parts Firm corvio and parts from kawatec😎
I've seen those Austrian button like pressure switches, they seem like a better option than the Surefire that I have but IDK where to find those in the US. if you know where I can get one I'd appreciate it
it's honestly not bad rail section, it holds zero and is built tough. If your talking about aesthetics then I guess it looks strange, but I have had no issue with its functionality.
@@cloneordie3828 I just guess I am a traditionalist. I actually had the NATO A3 with the flat extended rail and after having it for a year actually disliked it intensely because it was heavy once you added any optic and I raked my hand when I charged it.I now have the old STG77 scoped one with no rails and love it .
"Unfortunately for me, Steyr wasn't producing guns anymore". Steyr never stopped producing guns, they probaly just weren't able to export them to North America during that period. Import/export laws can be a bitch.
Direct quote from the video of what was said: "steyr wasn't producing guns anymore for the US market" at 1:21 I say it in the same sentence you're referencing.
Just found your channel. Great review. The Aug is fantastic rifle. I own the NATO and wanted to add a Standard to my collection one day. Have your tried the x95 or Tavor Sar? I own both and love them too. Subscribing!
@@cloneordie3828 roger that! Can’t wait to see those. I use bullpups more than an AR due to having a stroke a few years ago and being left with muscle weakness that won’t return. Also back and neck issues. Bullpups are so well balanced in that regard. Easier to shoot for long periods of time over an AR or AK, At least for me. Great video and channel.
@@DownRange556 I've ran into someone that trains vets that lost an arm to use AUGs for the ease of use. It helps that it was made to be used with mittens and it can be disassembled with mittens too.
@@onpsxmember that is another reason to use and love bullpups. I had a stroke years ago and I’m left with muscle weakness in her won’t return. Also back and neck problems, disc pressing on spinal cord. Bullpup rifles work great for my needs. No muscle fatigue. I never thought about mittens and being able to take apart and shoot with one.
I snagged NATO version and kinda wish I had snagged the normal. But I still love it and just need to get better with the charging handle. A trigger upgrade and mag release, and charging handle upgrade and I’ll be cruisin
What is the NATO version? I am unaware of that. The AUG - or as we call it StG77 - is my service weapon. The gas regulator acutally only has two holes - one for regular rounds, one for blanks. A suppressor only works on the commando version, which is the ultra-short barrel - the video shows the short barrel. But it does not make sense, since you need below-Mach-velocity bullets, while the real power of the AUG is its muzzle velocity of 990m/s. Long barrel at high muzzle velocity = high precision and super powerful impact with tumbling bullet.
@@choke666 Aaaah, yes, that makes sense. One of the advantages of the standard magazine is though that you can always see the remaining capacity. I mean, that's not a crucial thing, it just comes in very handy. And, they are freaking durable. In 25 years I have not seen one magazine breaking or twisted. No idea what material they make it of... cryponite probably?? :D
@leoniscsem 🤣 I was going to say the same thing. I've, of course, only heard about their legendary reputation on durability (traditional mags). The nato version also lacks the bolt catch on the side of the stock🫤 Once you've made peace with those differences, it's a great pup.
The AUG on the surface is great, and in use is pretty neat too. That being said Europoor gun companies SUCK MAJOR DONG and unfortunately the AUG contracted it. Why no 1/7 twist when they make the barrels for some tiny ass police department Why no bolt release on the NATO stock Why even make more than one receiver when the GI mag and PMAG are infinitely more available than Steyr mags Why the hell would they bother making a 1.5x optic and make it standard on that PSA daily deal .300blk / 5.56 when everyone wants the 3x. Why not make the 9mm Aug available Why is Corvus so damn expensive Why does it take a decade for anything to make it to market
"... those Austrians were smoking Space Weed." Well, yes they were B/C the AUG was used in one of the Star Wars series by Imperial Storm Troopers. :o(. And my "other bullpup", the PS90, was used in StarGate. BUT the P90/PS90 used the AUG style trigger/hammer group.
I've had multiple debates with people regarding how if it's something you've gotten used to and trained enough with the aspects an ar15 user would consider negatives wouldn't actually be an issue. Both the glock and the AUG are fantastic firearms
Funny story: When I was deployed to Kosovo and we visited Camp Bondsteel, the Marines camp guards were not used to our procedure of safety. We swooshed the barrel out and presented to the guard to look through as usual, yet procedure demanded he had to put in this 14'' stick into our 80cm+ barrel, hahahah. I know they just did their job, yet it was hilarious to watch. Edit: Typo correction, it was a 14'' stick.
@@leoniscsem hahaha like I mentioned in the video, the 1st time I saw the quick barrel removal on an AUG I was dumbfounded I can only imagine what a marine was thinking when exposed to it for the 1st time while on deployment. Thanks for watching and thank you more for sharing your stories!
@@cloneordie3828 Yeah, it certainly must be baffling to see it for the first time. I clearly remember his facial expression, it was like "WTF dude?" On the other hand, I was very puzzled to see the complex inner mechanics of other rifles. The G36 or AR-series are certainly very good rifles, but when it came to the dire tasks of cleaning, we watched in sheer horror how much fizzling and fumbling it needs to disassemble them. When you "grew up" with an AUG (adopted in '77) and a Glock 17 (in '80), you basically wonder "why would they make everything so complicated?" The rifle that shocked me the most was the SIG 550 though. I had always loved to use the SIG552 in Counterstrike before, so I was keen to get my hand on a real-life version of it. Bro, when that Swiss soldier disassembled it (all the while strongly insisting on it being faaaaar superior than our stupid AUG), I decided never to play CS with the SIG again, hahaha.
No I have not, I am satisfied with the trigger parts I have currently. But I have seen them posted on the AUG reddit and eventually might consider one or the Arid trigger if I decide to upgrade further in the future.
Dear Americans: firstly, try to actually KNOW what you're talking about. The AUG is designed to work in the worst of winter ALPINE conditions. The safety is chunky so that you can assuredly operate it with WINTER gloves. The trigger originally works with a half pull fir semi auto OR a full pull for AUTOMATIC. This removes the requirement for a fire selector which can get screwed up by bad conditions. Your ARs wouldn't survive such hard coditions. Appreciate the AUG for what it is: excellent.
Wild complaining about a gun made in the 70s that's still more than viable 50 years later. Imagine you were using the m1 garand as the standard service rifle in 2000 because it was so far ahead of its time it was still modern at the time. That's what the AUG is, futuristic in the 70s and today it's as modern as a modern day rifle, with current updates it just has years and years left as a modern rifle.
it was way ahead of its time fore sure, I would say it will have a service life for AT LEAST another decade or two. Until there is a significant caliber change and standardized in NATO the AUG will remain at minimum in Austrian service. The domestic production is a key asset in its importance in Austria's Military, the 40 years of training and familiarity with Austria's professional and conscript soldiers is another reason it will likely be around for a while, + its reliability & capability in the Austrian environment. Add to that the debated return of the longer barrels higher velocity benefits with 556 in near pear conflicts in size (bullpup) and lethality. the 20 In barrel AUG being roughly equal to a 14.5in M4 gives it bit more capability. And if new 5.56 is developed then its going be here a while. I think its got a lot more life in it, kinda like how the US can never really "replace" the M4
@@cloneordie3828 that, good Sir, is a thorough analysis. Probably the best I have read on the internet so far. You are absolutely right, there is no consideration of replacing the StG77, but instead it is seen as a platform to be adapted to future needs. There is no discussion going on in military circles about replacing it, it's more like: "Huh? Why would anybody do that?? Sure, Leopard 2s or Pandurs need an upgrade or are possibly being phased out, but the StG77?? Nah." Even with a significant calibre change I doubt we'd ditch it and develop a new model. As you mentioned the M4 family - once you have a great functional platform, it's hard to get rid of it. Just think how much was going on in development since the Xm177 / Car15 era. The A2 is now the standard issue for conscripts, while the A3 is issued to more specialised troops. Thus we can assume in a decade or so the conscripts are going to carry the A3s.
AUG is nice, don't get me wrong, but we all want the F90. Was going to get imported, but corporate cut their nuts off right before importing. I will make one.
The F90 was the 1st "new" gun I had gotten excited for since I was a kid. And as fast as it was announced it disappeared, its a total shame. If you make them and I mean seriously and accurately make them, then I guarantee augtists (myself included) will buy them.
My brother in Christ, the AUG is such a cool looking gun, I'd love to try one and maybe own one. But I think the issue of "aug haters" is not whether or not people should own this cool iconic gun and enjoy it; but rather pushing back on arguments that seem to claim this rifle is somehow actually a practical choice for a serious defensive weapon for people in the US. If i'm getting this right: 1700 bucks, but out of the box needs hundreds of dollars of upgraded parts according to your own recommendations, shares virtually no parts compatibility with other dominant US market weapons, and if you want to use the stanag mag version you LOSE your ability to have bolt hold open? As an AR user, if I can't hand you mag to put in your gun, that should raise some questions about seriousness of this weapon for a citizen defense situation. For those militaries that use the weapon abroad, they have the benefit of their entire logistics support system and spare parts straight from Steyr. We don't have that luxury, so we rely on commercial market dominating weapons that are far and above more common for parts and mags. Luckily, the AR doesn't suck and there are many reasons why it dominates, not just commonality. But as far as a cool gun to enjoy and shoot, it looks awesome! So enjoy it my friend. Its just...as a person who is concerned about our future in this country, I've been taking preparedness seriously and implementing logistical theory to myself and my peers so that we can better serve each other if things ever went sideways. As far as I can tell, the only parts that I can replace on your AUG from my spares stash are muzzle devices and ejector+ejector spring(maybe); that would be a problem in my eyes if being touted to be a citizen defense weapon. Extractors wear out (proprietary), bolts wear out (proprietary), barrels wear out (proprietary), other components wear out too. Just doesn't seem like a smart choice other than for collecting and to enjoy. At least for our market and compared to the vast parts AR parts availability here.
Ill address this in 4 points: 1. Cost I paid $1,800 for this rifle, it came stock with a 3x optic. I ran this rifle Stock for 3 years and never had an issue with its features. The trigger was fine, I shoot milspec triggers on most of my Ar15s & it is marginally heavier. The upgrades I put in the gun are just to enhance it ever so slightly more. In total the cost of the upgrades excluding the light and red dot was $390. Of those Upgrades the only ones I'd recommend if you're trying to minimalize cost and maximize performance are the brass deflector ($125) and the Rat Worx Sear ($90) a whopping total of $215... lets set up a complete Ar15 of reputable manufacture with quality attachments to meet the same capability for as little as possible: we'll use a BCM rifle, great quality and a good price. BCM M4 Mod 0 16" Keymod: $1,100+ to $1300+ Larue MBT trigger: $115 Primary Arms SLx 3x micro Prism: $320 ACOG 3x or ACOG 4x: $900+ to $1,200+ (I'm assuming you get a good deal so lets say $900) inexpensive MLOK foregrip: Magpul MVG grip $20 (bonus cost if you want same rifle length as AUG when stock is full collapsed & not sacrifice ballistics too much) 14.5 in Ar15 barrel from Primary arms: $100 (low end) to $300+ (for a BCM 14.5) SBR tax stamp: $200 or Pin and Weld by gunsmith: $80 (middle of the road price guess) total costs: (assuming you got the best prices listed like a $1100 BCM rifle) 16" Ar15 with PA SLx 3x: $1,555 16" Ar15 with ACOG: $2,135 14.5 SBR AR15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx 3x: $1,855 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) 14.5 SBR AR15 (BCM barrel) with PA Slx 3x: $2,155 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) 14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx: $1,735 14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx: $1,935 14.5 SBR AR15 (cheap barrel) with ACOG: $2,235 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) 14.5 SBR AR15 (BCM barrel) with ACOG: $2,435 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) 14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with ACOG: $2,215 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) 14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (BCM barrel) with ACOG: $2,415 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid) AUG total cost with all the things I've added: $2,190 AUG cost with minimum recommended parts (brass deflector & Sear): $2,015 Sure you can build an AR15 for cheaper than what I spent to "upgrade" my AUG but I have never questioned the quality of my AUGs components or its performance. 2. Spare parts/ parts replacement I own spare replacement parts for my guns (everybody should for as many guns possible) a part breaking is a non issue because the gun is built like a brick house and I have spares. The gas system is super simple, the piston that the gas impinges on is as thick as a no. 2 pencil, go ahead and try to break that. I'll never have to re-stake a gas key on an AUG bolt like some heavily used ar15 bolts. The bolt carrier is massive and built like a tank. if my barrel wares out I can swap my barrel and gas block in 15 seconds without tools. my cassette trigger pack is easily removable and entire replacement packs are available online, just like all the parts I'd potentially need. The only high wear components are the bolt head and some springs, again I have spares so it doesn't matter. As far as needing to fix in the field, do you run around with a spare ar15 bolt carrier in your pockets? In your hypothetical wilderness/American guerilla fantasy I'd have my spare parts at a base camp or stash just like guys with AR15s would do... and the best part I need ZERO tools to replace every component. 3. No AR15 mag compatibility The only situation a "bring your own gun to war day" would occur is if some American guerilla fantasy scenario happened. As a guerilla I'd have to have made some HUGE strategic error to be in a situation where if I don't immediately load your AR15 magazine into my rifle I'm going to die. The fundamental strategy of guerilla campaigns is to not get into long drawn out fights with a superior force. If you read any books about successful guerilla wars you'd understand that getting yourself into a situation like that then standing and fighting a overwhelming force is a detriment to you. This isn't some "go, ill hold them back" last stand male fantasy, the entire mission of a guerilla is to hit a strategic target you have the odds of winning against then leaving as soon as possible. Hit and run, a guerillas sole goal in asymmetric warfare is to survive. Overwhelm an inferior force then leave, rinse and repeat. this point you made about magazines doesn't hold the weight you think it does. A better argument in this scenario would be "it would be difficult to get more mags or replacement AUG magazines in a protracted conflict" as mags are perishable assets. And my response to that argument is that I own over 50 Aug magazines... 4. The life span of the AUG and it's practicality Steyr AUGs have a long life span man, they are built tough as hell for a reason. the Austrians fully expected to be utilizing these rifles in degraded logistic situations if the cold war got hot. They were designed to require little to no tools at all to do basic maintenance and field repair. These rifles are accurate and reliable every part than can break can be easily replaced by a conscript. It's compact size is the same as a 14.5 AR15 with the stock fully collapsed with better ballistics, the glass in the built in optic is Zeiss glass or great quality and clarity, the trigger is an over blown complaint parroted online all too often, if you actually shoot your guns often you will not be at a disadvantage with it, its not a precision match rifle combat rifles don't have to be and honestly shouldn't be. The upgrades I added make the rifle better but they are not required to make the rifle "good" as they are fantastic in stock configuration right off the factory line. The price of the rifle and upgrades I added are a higher upfront cost than your base AR15 but the further upgrade cost is significantly lower than most people think, it all just depends you you set up your AR15 and your AUG you can go cheap or expensive with upgrades on both platforms. The Aug is a very practical rifle, in both the context of military adoption and civilian ownership and I highly recommend them if someone is seriously considering a bullpup. I appreciate the comment and view but I had to push back on your opinions, I enjoy these type of discussions and if you have any counterpoints or questions I'd love to hear them and continue this conversation.
@@cloneordie3828 I should have clarified. I'm not opposed to buying expensive guns, it was simply the cost in comparison to still needing upgrades after the fact. My AR's are just as expensive, so its not about saying "my $600 AR is just as good bro, you wasted your money." Its that I build all mine the way I want the first time, so needing to replace parts seems like extra steps that I would prefer weren't there with a gun at its price range. That's why I choose to build my guns myself anyways. Its the same reason people complain about DD putting milspec triggers in their guns, the trigger isn't bad by any stretch, but its like...really? As "better" becomes standard then why isn't it already in there for the price? Even if Steyr raised the price slightly, it would be preferable. Its been in production since the 70's, fix it. Also, I don't fantasize about war within our borders, I dislike the idea and prefer to keep using my guns for fun and training. My reason for preparedness is worry, not joy. But lets not kid ourselves, people who buy as many guns and kit as gun enthusiasts do... we all think about it. So I'm not going to pretend that I'm too cool to worry about it, but also I'm not so delusional to think that I need to build a fallout shelter in my basement either. I just try to implement some level of preparedness into my life where I can, and my chosen grab and go weapon would not be a mostly proprietary Austrian bullpup, regardless of the conflict type because it simply doesn't make logistical sense for compatibility with my peers. I don't know what a conflict might look like, guerrilla seems like the most plausible, but idk. As far as "bring your own gun to war" I mean, don't previous conflicts often show that partisans often equip themselves? So it doesn't seem out of the equation. The fact that it comes with a 3x optic, if you buy that version, is cool and its high value...if its good and fits the user. I don't know, I haven't looked through one. All I know is that a lot of people don't like the same things and they don't all work for them. So I wouldn't automatically count that as a pro. But it does work for you, so that's good, that's not in the con box for you. Many of my reasons to oppose the AUG in this role is in the context of recommending them to people as their first rifle, so the optic is more of a question mark in my mind. No idea if it would work for the person in question. AR15 spares - Carrying a complete extra bolt (not carrier), cam pin, firing pin, FPRP, and gas rings for the installed bolt is easy to throw into a cleaning kit to put in your bag. The carrier body is unnecessary as long as starting with a well sealed, torqued and staked gas key to begin with. So yes, I would carry spares for the critical wear items. The AUG's extractor and ejector appear to be proprietary. There aren't many extractors or ejectors I can think of that last forever. The AK even has an issue where the solid ejector can peen over causing malfunctions at high round counts, needing to be welded reshaped and hardened. One spare may be all your need, so perhaps its fine. But don't lose it and good luck finding another. Its not that its unsolvable, but the AR puts you in an easier position for an unknown situation is my point. Mags - that was definitely part of my point. The hope is that you have access to your stash of mags. Sourcing them, and sourcing parts is the entire point I was making in regards to beyond what stash you have available. Needing to leave behind and acquire another gun is always an option. So I guess it doesn't matter. But I'd rather start with something that has easier logistics to begin with. Suppressed usage - in my mind suppressors are a must especially with the advanced designs that are available now. I have no idea how compatible an AUG is with cans, but i know that piston guns unlock sooner and more violently than DI, so I don't imagine that bodes well for parts wear, again highlighting the extractor. I see they sell an suppressed adjustable gas regulator, but would be nice if it came with it. Preparedness is about trying to set ourselves up for unforeseen events. The AUG isn't an unsolvable problem for this, my point is that the AR is much easier logistically. Btw, apparently there is an AUG trigger available from ARID concepts? Do you have any thoughts on it? Perhaps you could review it, would be cool.
You can get flat, full length top rails as well as hand guards to get that rail space. Also, after market triggers. Now, if you want to criticize something it would have to be the price. After all the mods and add ons you will have dumped a lot of money into it. For that money you can get a fully specced, high end AR and still have money left for the very best optics. Other than that I'd say it's the best do it all rifle. It's just so compact. I mean who doesn't have an AR overload by now? It's gets awfully boring to see the same unoriginal builds all the time tbh. I mean guys, you mf'ers are absolutely interchangeable with your stupid a flannel shirts and have not a single original thought. I mean why tf do you wear a helmet? God it's so boring. LARP drones... 😂
the cheapest way to get into the AUG is buy a flattop AUG on sale and buy a eotech or Aimpoint pro, you'd be below $2000 at that point. Or you could do what I did and get the built in optic model, but like you said if you want to go deep on the upgrades it will cost you.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 I feel for you man, that is rough. But look o the bright side, you can get guns we can't ever dream of getting here. Sig 553s here are like $4500+ if you're lucky enough to get one. got to look at the positives as well as the negatives
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Most don't know that it is designed for hard Alpine weather. You can operate it with winter gloves.. that's why the safety has edges, to be easily gripped. That's also why the trigger is designed the way it is 😉
Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 😀
Corvus, another Austrian company, is excellent.
Everything makes total sense now. I imagine it would still run if frozen right?
@@smokingcrab2290 yes. cheers from an austrian soldier
@@smokingcrab2290 Also it is designed to be field-serviceable and good for months/years long guerilla warfare. Hence why it carries its own service tools inside of it, can be field stripped and services by anbody, no batteries in the optics and only uses domestic parts.
Austrias defense doctrine during the Cold War was basically:
Make the mountains talk Austrian, just like the snow speaks Finish and the jungle Vietnamese. We could not have stopped the USSR, but we would have made holding the country very costly through a never ending insurgency.
@@AntonGudenus what can you say about the use in the Russian winter? I own aug a2, I use it on hunting in autumn in Kazakhstan, our winter is worse than it happens in Russia( -40 degrees Celsius), In our state aug is a very very expensive weapon and I use it with caution, I feel sorry to scratch it, drop it, etc. I had to modify the trigger mechanism and even sharpening the firing pin tale, because it is misfired from the beginning
@@i-tunes2025 I have never used it in that low temperature. The AUG was not designed for the Russian winter, but Autrian mountains (where you generally expect a minimum of around -20°C).
But if you get regualr missfiring, there might be some condensation forming on the inside of the gun, that then is freezing. Every time you take the very cold gun into a warmer space, condensation will form. If you then don't give it the time to evaporate and cool the gun again, things will seize up.
Are you by any chance taking the gun from warm to cold spaces regularly? Like maybe a car
Thank you, this pleases my AUGtism.
LOVE that term "AUGtism".
I'm on that spectrum at a 9 out of 10. ;o)
Great review & greetings from Austria. Used it in the army in snow, mud and dust; had never any issues.
People who complain about the aug have usually never fired one or have monetary interest in shitting on it
Well done! The quirks of bullpups are simply a matter of familiarity and practice. James Reeves also has some videos on TFBTV from when he went to the Steyr Academy and learned how to make the AUG dance!
My first preference is the X95, for the controls and overall layout, as well as the ease of field stripping (just open the buttplate and the guts drop out), but totally respect the AUG. I hope to get to spend time with one eventually.
The production value of this video is great, i thought im watching a much bigger channel lol. I really enjoyed this video. Im going to be buying my own AUG very soon, so the hype is real. I also appreciate that you hearted everyones comment.
All the upgrades you mentioned, I wholeheartedly agree.......and have done so. It makes it a whole different level of weapon. Hats of to Corvus Defensio & Rat Worx, they got it right.
Just bought an Aug HBAR, I'm really excited for it. I'm feeling super augtistic.
To address the lack of real estate, either go Underworld arms AUG handguard or clawgear handguard (if you can find one) both of these keep the QD barrel feature and can be used with integrated sights and rail systems
When I build out a second AUG with the flat top rail this is most likely the direction I will go
Hey man, great Video there! Greetings from Austria
The Australian Army have been using it for years as there main weapon. Manufactured by Lithgow Arms, Australia. They recently updated it - a wicked new version. Wish we could buy it in the US.
yeah, the Australian f90s are awesome. we almost had the ability to buy them.. then politics came into play. it is a shame
I've had mine for almost 8 years now. I got the flat top with an old Eotech holo on it. Ran thousands of rounds through it. Never 1 single issue, jam, nothing. Flawless. Am I an operator? No. Should this be the only or first semi-auto rifle you own? Probably not, but maybe. Would I use this thing in any situation? F to the yes! It shoots just as nice as any AR I've ever shot and being such a short package, makes it an easy choice.
Awesome video my man!
F the haters!
totally agree man, the only issue I've ever had was a failure to feed with 1 ammo type and it was a single round out of the 400 rounds of it I shot. other than that totally reliable and incredibly fun, when it comes to bullpups its tough to beat the AUG
Had a couple of AUGs 40 years ago. They got so highly valued, cound not resist selling em. Now have a 16"er and a 20"er. Land time love affair.
I have a gen.1 AUG from Interarms, an old CIA front company in Virginia. It has a serial number in the low 900s. After a few thousand rounds it still runs flawlessly. Love that chrome lined barrel!
Garand Thumb's extreme cold test of assault rifles showed the AUG one of the best in resisting freezing. SO THERE!
having an old school AUG is cool enough, but yours being from a CIA front company is probably the coolest AUG prestige I can think of. I'm jealous, now ill be searching out an interarms import when I finally commit to getting the classic AUG hahaha
@@cloneordie3828 Best of luck on an Interarms AUG. They do exist. And if'n I don't use mine to defend the nation in the aftermath of the2024 election I mat even sell it to you.. ;o)
Can confirm. No problems or even any "additional procedure" for our alpine troops. Only thing to really, really pay attention to: When you are on training for alpine warfare, make sure to get rid of your protective gloves when getting the barrel out after a moderate number of rounds. You do NOT want the hot barrel to fall down into the snow or onto the glacier, unless you want to shoot around corners, hahahaha.
@@leoniscsem Haha! Thanks for the handy tip!
Thanks for giving me augtism bro. Seriously the best Aug video on UA-cam and funny. Thanks for confirming my choice as a first rifle. Fuck it.
DO IT! AUGs are great, ar15s are cool but they are everywhere, the AUG just has a special something. It always turns heads at the range, generates a lot of interest and its a ton of fun.
The ones using NV with the AUG often used the small bit a rail on the right side, hanging it vertically before all the big rail options were around that now extend way forward like on the M2 and what used to be the swat config.
I've got an older AUG variant, kinda like an A2 but an SA stock. It still has the hump on the stock and the A2 rail of Corvus won't fit based on the radius of the rail on the underside. I'd either have to change one or the other to make it fit. Thing is my rail where the original scope slides on has only the spring detent but no additional screw hole too.
Btw...If anyone in a mag restricted shit state wants an AUG, get the nato version. It may suck with some aftermarket stuff but at least you don't have to buy Steyr's 9+1 mags that don't have the button on the bottom to take them apart. The bottoms are connected with roll pins. I shit you not. I sadly have no other choice. I'm going with a rds & 4x magnifier combo.
Did you have a sleepy finger from the gas yet? Heard some lost the feeling in their thumb for a few days.
Maybe get that manticor mlok bit of rail to have better lefty handling.
I had some Norma where the neck got damaged on ejection. But I can't say if that is the case with the new barrels, mine is still chrome lined.
Dude i like this video man! I'm just now getting into the Aug (I'm building a nylaug) and I'm really excited so this video as really relatable and told me a lot of good info! Hope ur channel blows up 🍻
thanks for the kind words amigo, Those Nylaugs are crazy. when you get it all finished post it up on the AUG reddit.
My absolute favorite gun I own, the Corvus charging handle and brass deflector make such a huge difference. The gun is actually peak when you change out certain parts of it, I would choose it over an AR any day. I just wish people would be more open minded and realize that AR isn't always the answer (I am severely Augtistic).
I agree dude, after swapping out a few of the stock parts that the haters always mention, it preforms above and beyond my expectations. I'm looking into getting the corvus charging handle in the near future.
@cloneordie3828 the Manticore Arms charging handle is a great option. It folds away and it is angled down to keep the hand away from the flat-top rail/optic frame.
Awesome review
Thanks, just bought and Aug. I really like it so far. Looking to upgrade it so I can love it. I appreciate your video showing some of the better/important upgradss
no problem man, thanks for watching! Enjoy the AUG its a pretty fun platform
Die hard, Beretta 92f & Styer Aug
Like the video...Good luck growing your channel!
Thanks Jeff, we are a big fan of your channel and it means alot!
UA-camr: yes the AUG is great but you must buy all these upgrades. Me: F@ck I’m also severely AUGtistic
even without the upgrades its still fantastic. I ran mine for 2+ years in stock configuration and it was great. The upgrades I mention are just to make it better, a stock trigger and mag release are perfectly fine.
I’m sold.. I’m buying one one right now.
17:05 hell yea, you need to do that again
I too have autism and an AUG. I also may have purchased the left handed bolt and the elusive 24” barrel for it.
we lefty aug enjoyers gotta stick together
I found the underworld arms swat a3m1 rail fixed the rail estate problem
AR vs AUG. My vote is for the AUG.
"None of that Sh!t matters" !!! EXACTLY😂🤣🤣...Hello we are smoking that Space Weed!
Austrian arms designers were smokin on that Martian marijuana, building futuristic blasters around the height of the space race
In the Austrian army, a lot of guys mount their pressure switches right below the safety, to be operated with the thumb.
I just switched my optic to the SF, I will try out that spot when I mount my light in its new spot
I love my Aug
Full Tism... love it!
The newest version, which I bought today, comes with a handguard with Keymod.
it is not just a bullpup it is thee bullpup. The only bullpup I have ever wanted
other bullpups seem to have came and went but the AUG is still kicking
AUG’s are the tits! Love my M1A3 NATO.
I was issued and AUG. RNZIR. Here in the US civilian firearms market, they were and still are a lot more expensive than I'd thought when I wanted to buy my setup when I was in. And the Sig 226. But since I was in, the NZ army went to an AR platform and a gen 4 17.
you can sometimes find the picatinny railed models on sale for below $1,700 but the original STG77 AUGs with the built in optic are super extensive collector items now, its a bummer
@@cloneordie3828 I'd rather a NATO stock A3, for which my gun store owner is currently searching for me, and for which I've already thrown money at. The original receiver with the 1.5x optic, it'd be nice, but not nearly as usable as having the ability to just throw whatever optic you want on it. I've also heard that the NATO stock AUGs don't have a bolt release, about which I'm not too disappointed, because I wasn't trained with a Steyr that had a bolt catch. Not to say that it wouldn't be nice, but that isn't as big of a deal to me as having a picatinny rail to throw any optic that I want on it over having the 1.5x donut of death.
Even if i dont own one yet, i am still AugTistic
I see Aug, I click, I like, I respect
My only complaint is that a lot of the cool Corvus stuff is not compatible with the AR mag version and for rail estate you can try the Silver Star Armory 90 degree side rail, it replaces the small 45 degree rail with a longer 90 degree rail
I'm not familiar with these issues, if that's the case then it's a bummer. Check out Arid defense if your looking for upgrades that aren't from corvus
Corvus defensivo make extra long picatinny rail and a spezial rail vor the austrian police with extra qd mounts .....i know it because i have one ....greetings from austria
I've seen those, corvus products are amazing I plan to get a few more in the future. A Austrian Police AUG clone would be awesome project
@@cloneordie3828 now you can buy IT als a Special bmi edition(Austria Police) in Austria .i was buying my Aug before that time ...i have a 20" Aug with extra long corvus rail and Other parts Firm corvio and parts from kawatec😎
In Austria you can buy it as a police Version exactly the Same Look but only half auto
Dremel the top ouf your foregrip and but your pressure switch on it like the Jagdkommando (Austrian SF)
I've seen those Austrian button like pressure switches, they seem like a better option than the Surefire that I have but IDK where to find those in the US. if you know where I can get one I'd appreciate it
I actually just got an Irish Battle vest, the mag pouches on it are huge probably to accommodate the thicc waffles since they also use the aug.
Pouches made for AUG mags will fit 3 AR15 mags, so if you don't have an aug yet no worries you can fit about any mag in those pouches.
Same here I love that thing , just a big fan !!!
The awful rail on the scope though.
it's honestly not bad rail section, it holds zero and is built tough. If your talking about aesthetics then I guess it looks strange, but I have had no issue with its functionality.
@@cloneordie3828 I just guess I am a traditionalist. I actually had the NATO A3 with the flat extended rail and after having it for a year actually disliked it intensely because it was heavy once you added any optic and I raked my hand when I charged it.I now have the old STG77 scoped one with no rails and love it .
@@survivalcommando I agree the OG STG77 is the peak of aesthetics, I hope to own one someday
"Unfortunately for me, Steyr wasn't producing guns anymore". Steyr never stopped producing guns, they probaly just weren't able to export them to North America during that period. Import/export laws can be a bitch.
Direct quote from the video of what was said: "steyr wasn't producing guns anymore for the US market" at 1:21 I say it in the same sentence you're referencing.
Just found your channel. Great review. The Aug is fantastic rifle. I own the NATO and wanted to add a Standard to my collection one day. Have your tried the x95 or Tavor Sar? I own both and love them too. Subscribing!
Thanks our current banner features both the x95 and Sar, we will get around to covering them at some point!
@@cloneordie3828 roger that! Can’t wait to see those. I use bullpups more than an AR due to having a stroke a few years ago and being left with muscle weakness that won’t return. Also back and neck issues. Bullpups are so well balanced in that regard. Easier to shoot for long periods of time over an AR or AK, At least for me. Great video and channel.
@@DownRange556
I've ran into someone that trains vets that lost an arm to use AUGs for the ease of use. It helps that it was made to be used with mittens and it can be disassembled with mittens too.
@@onpsxmember that is another reason to use and love bullpups. I had a stroke years ago and I’m left with muscle weakness in her won’t return. Also back and neck problems, disc pressing on spinal cord. Bullpup rifles work great for my needs. No muscle fatigue. I never thought about mittens and being able to take apart and shoot with one.
Same dude. First 2gun comp run with the aug, i finally got 2 stage wins on the same day
hell yeah man!
I snagged NATO version and kinda wish I had snagged the normal. But I still love it and just need to get better with the charging handle. A trigger upgrade and mag release, and charging handle upgrade and I’ll be cruisin
Check out the RatWorx 2020 sear and the Manticore Arms charging handle.
I have the NATO version. I just put a modified gas regulator and suppressor. Frickin siiiiiic. Thank you for sharing your AUGtism. We aren't alone.🤜🤛
What is the NATO version? I am unaware of that. The AUG - or as we call it StG77 - is my service weapon. The gas regulator acutally only has two holes - one for regular rounds, one for blanks. A suppressor only works on the commando version, which is the ultra-short barrel - the video shows the short barrel. But it does not make sense, since you need below-Mach-velocity bullets, while the real power of the AUG is its muzzle velocity of 990m/s. Long barrel at high muzzle velocity = high precision and super powerful impact with tumbling bullet.
@leoniscsem IT accepts AR-15 magazines, most notably.
@@choke666 Aaaah, yes, that makes sense. One of the advantages of the standard magazine is though that you can always see the remaining capacity. I mean, that's not a crucial thing, it just comes in very handy. And, they are freaking durable. In 25 years I have not seen one magazine breaking or twisted. No idea what material they make it of... cryponite probably?? :D
@leoniscsem 🤣 I was going to say the same thing. I've, of course, only heard about their legendary reputation on durability (traditional mags). The nato version also lacks the bolt catch on the side of the stock🫤 Once you've made peace with those differences, it's a great pup.
Where’d you find the sf scope ? Been looking for one forever & great review 😎
Steyr USA website, they might be sold out and you might have to look on the secondary market.
The AUG on the surface is great, and in use is pretty neat too.
That being said Europoor gun companies SUCK MAJOR DONG and unfortunately the AUG contracted it.
Why no 1/7 twist when they make the barrels for some tiny ass police department
Why no bolt release on the NATO stock
Why even make more than one receiver when the GI mag and PMAG are infinitely more available than Steyr mags
Why the hell would they bother making a 1.5x optic and make it standard on that PSA daily deal .300blk / 5.56 when everyone wants the 3x.
Why not make the 9mm Aug available
Why is Corvus so damn expensive
Why does it take a decade for anything to make it to market
"... those Austrians were smoking Space Weed." Well, yes they were B/C the AUG was used in one of the Star Wars series by Imperial Storm Troopers. :o(.
And my "other bullpup", the PS90, was used in StarGate. BUT the P90/PS90 used the AUG style trigger/hammer group.
Great weapon the AUG
My service weapon along with the Glock 17.
I've had multiple debates with people regarding how if it's something you've gotten used to and trained enough with the aspects an ar15 user would consider negatives wouldn't actually be an issue. Both the glock and the AUG are fantastic firearms
Funny story: When I was deployed to Kosovo and we visited Camp Bondsteel, the Marines camp guards were not used to our procedure of safety. We swooshed the barrel out and presented to the guard to look through as usual, yet procedure demanded he had to put in this 14'' stick into our 80cm+ barrel, hahahah. I know they just did their job, yet it was hilarious to watch.
Edit: Typo correction, it was a 14'' stick.
@@leoniscsem hahaha like I mentioned in the video, the 1st time I saw the quick barrel removal on an AUG I was dumbfounded I can only imagine what a marine was thinking when exposed to it for the 1st time while on deployment. Thanks for watching and thank you more for sharing your stories!
@@cloneordie3828 Yeah, it certainly must be baffling to see it for the first time. I clearly remember his facial expression, it was like "WTF dude?"
On the other hand, I was very puzzled to see the complex inner mechanics of other rifles. The G36 or AR-series are certainly very good rifles, but when it came to the dire tasks of cleaning, we watched in sheer horror how much fizzling and fumbling it needs to disassemble them. When you "grew up" with an AUG (adopted in '77) and a Glock 17 (in '80), you basically wonder "why would they make everything so complicated?" The rifle that shocked me the most was the SIG 550 though. I had always loved to use the SIG552 in Counterstrike before, so I was keen to get my hand on a real-life version of it. Bro, when that Swiss soldier disassembled it (all the while strongly insisting on it being faaaaar superior than our stupid AUG), I decided never to play CS with the SIG again, hahaha.
I help run a group and in that group my name is AUGtism so I feel you fell in love with the gun when og black ops came out
the OG black ops AUG was so satisfying to use
@@cloneordie3828 if I could send pictures would do you have a instagram
All the features you want in a modern rifle, in a 50 year old rifle.
I liked this
Have you ever tried the kawatec aug trigger?
No I have not, I am satisfied with the trigger parts I have currently. But I have seen them posted on the AUG reddit and eventually might consider one or the Arid trigger if I decide to upgrade further in the future.
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Dear Americans: firstly, try to actually KNOW what you're talking about. The AUG is designed to work in the worst of winter ALPINE conditions. The safety is chunky so that you can assuredly operate it with WINTER gloves. The trigger originally works with a half pull fir semi auto OR a full pull for AUTOMATIC. This removes the requirement for a fire selector which can get screwed up by bad conditions.
Your ARs wouldn't survive such hard coditions. Appreciate the AUG for what it is: excellent.
Fuck it put an EOTech on top😂😊
Also what type of material are you using for extra grip on the handle, mag and trigger handle?
Green Goon Tape, I used to just use hockey tape but the width of the goon tape is larger.
Wild complaining about a gun made in the 70s that's still more than viable 50 years later. Imagine you were using the m1 garand as the standard service rifle in 2000 because it was so far ahead of its time it was still modern at the time. That's what the AUG is, futuristic in the 70s and today it's as modern as a modern day rifle, with current updates it just has years and years left as a modern rifle.
it was way ahead of its time fore sure, I would say it will have a service life for AT LEAST another decade or two. Until there is a significant caliber change and standardized in NATO the AUG will remain at minimum in Austrian service.
The domestic production is a key asset in its importance in Austria's Military, the 40 years of training and familiarity with Austria's professional and conscript soldiers is another reason it will likely be around for a while, + its reliability & capability in the Austrian environment. Add to that the debated return of the longer barrels higher velocity benefits with 556 in near pear conflicts in size (bullpup) and lethality. the 20 In barrel AUG being roughly equal to a 14.5in M4 gives it bit more capability. And if new 5.56 is developed then its going be here a while. I think its got a lot more life in it, kinda like how the US can never really "replace" the M4
@@cloneordie3828 that, good Sir, is a thorough analysis. Probably the best I have read on the internet so far. You are absolutely right, there is no consideration of replacing the StG77, but instead it is seen as a platform to be adapted to future needs. There is no discussion going on in military circles about replacing it, it's more like: "Huh? Why would anybody do that?? Sure, Leopard 2s or Pandurs need an upgrade or are possibly being phased out, but the StG77?? Nah."
Even with a significant calibre change I doubt we'd ditch it and develop a new model. As you mentioned the M4 family - once you have a great functional platform, it's hard to get rid of it. Just think how much was going on in development since the Xm177 / Car15 era. The A2 is now the standard issue for conscripts, while the A3 is issued to more specialised troops. Thus we can assume in a decade or so the conscripts are going to carry the A3s.
AUG is nice, don't get me wrong, but we all want the F90. Was going to get imported, but corporate cut their nuts off right before importing. I will make one.
The F90 was the 1st "new" gun I had gotten excited for since I was a kid. And as fast as it was announced it disappeared, its a total shame. If you make them and I mean seriously and accurately make them, then I guarantee augtists (myself included) will buy them.
What chest rig is that?
Custom Chest rig from Extreme Gear Labs, called the "chike" in rare South African 32 battalion camo
@@cloneordie3828 Thanks brother! Also, awesome vid. Shit makes me really want an AUG. lol
My brother in Christ, the AUG is such a cool looking gun, I'd love to try one and maybe own one. But I think the issue of "aug haters" is not whether or not people should own this cool iconic gun and enjoy it; but rather pushing back on arguments that seem to claim this rifle is somehow actually a practical choice for a serious defensive weapon for people in the US.
If i'm getting this right: 1700 bucks, but out of the box needs hundreds of dollars of upgraded parts according to your own recommendations, shares virtually no parts compatibility with other dominant US market weapons, and if you want to use the stanag mag version you LOSE your ability to have bolt hold open? As an AR user, if I can't hand you mag to put in your gun, that should raise some questions about seriousness of this weapon for a citizen defense situation. For those militaries that use the weapon abroad, they have the benefit of their entire logistics support system and spare parts straight from Steyr. We don't have that luxury, so we rely on commercial market dominating weapons that are far and above more common for parts and mags. Luckily, the AR doesn't suck and there are many reasons why it dominates, not just commonality.
But as far as a cool gun to enjoy and shoot, it looks awesome! So enjoy it my friend. Its just...as a person who is concerned about our future in this country, I've been taking preparedness seriously and implementing logistical theory to myself and my peers so that we can better serve each other if things ever went sideways. As far as I can tell, the only parts that I can replace on your AUG from my spares stash are muzzle devices and ejector+ejector spring(maybe); that would be a problem in my eyes if being touted to be a citizen defense weapon. Extractors wear out (proprietary), bolts wear out (proprietary), barrels wear out (proprietary), other components wear out too. Just doesn't seem like a smart choice other than for collecting and to enjoy. At least for our market and compared to the vast parts AR parts availability here.
Ill address this in 4 points:
1. Cost
I paid $1,800 for this rifle, it came stock with a 3x optic. I ran this rifle Stock for 3 years and never had an issue with its features. The trigger was fine, I shoot milspec triggers on most of my Ar15s & it is marginally heavier. The upgrades I put in the gun are just to enhance it ever so slightly more. In total the cost of the upgrades excluding the light and red dot was $390. Of those Upgrades the only ones I'd recommend if you're trying to minimalize cost and maximize performance are the brass deflector ($125) and the Rat Worx Sear ($90) a whopping total of $215... lets set up a complete Ar15 of reputable manufacture with quality attachments to meet the same capability for as little as possible:
we'll use a BCM rifle, great quality and a good price.
BCM M4 Mod 0 16" Keymod: $1,100+ to $1300+
Larue MBT trigger: $115
Primary Arms SLx 3x micro Prism: $320
ACOG 3x or ACOG 4x: $900+ to $1,200+ (I'm assuming you get a good deal so lets say $900)
inexpensive MLOK foregrip: Magpul MVG grip $20
(bonus cost if you want same rifle length as AUG when stock is full collapsed & not sacrifice ballistics too much)
14.5 in Ar15 barrel from Primary arms: $100 (low end) to $300+ (for a BCM 14.5)
SBR tax stamp: $200
or
Pin and Weld by gunsmith: $80 (middle of the road price guess)
total costs: (assuming you got the best prices listed like a $1100 BCM rifle)
16" Ar15 with PA SLx 3x: $1,555
16" Ar15 with ACOG: $2,135
14.5 SBR AR15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx 3x: $1,855 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
14.5 SBR AR15 (BCM barrel) with PA Slx 3x: $2,155 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx: $1,735
14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with PA Slx: $1,935
14.5 SBR AR15 (cheap barrel) with ACOG: $2,235 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
14.5 SBR AR15 (BCM barrel) with ACOG: $2,435 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (cheap barrel) with ACOG: $2,215 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
14.5 Pin/Weld Ar15 (BCM barrel) with ACOG: $2,415 (assuming you change barrel yourself/ no gunsmith paid)
AUG total cost with all the things I've added: $2,190
AUG cost with minimum recommended parts (brass deflector & Sear): $2,015
Sure you can build an AR15 for cheaper than what I spent to "upgrade" my AUG but I have never questioned the quality of my AUGs components or its performance.
2. Spare parts/ parts replacement
I own spare replacement parts for my guns (everybody should for as many guns possible) a part breaking is a non issue because the gun is built like a brick house and I have spares.
The gas system is super simple, the piston that the gas impinges on is as thick as a no. 2 pencil, go ahead and try to break that. I'll never have to re-stake a gas key on an AUG bolt like some heavily used ar15 bolts. The bolt carrier is massive and built like a tank. if my barrel wares out I can swap my barrel and gas block in 15 seconds without tools. my cassette trigger pack is easily removable and entire replacement packs are available online, just like all the parts I'd potentially need.
The only high wear components are the bolt head and some springs, again I have spares so it doesn't matter.
As far as needing to fix in the field, do you run around with a spare ar15 bolt carrier in your pockets? In your hypothetical wilderness/American guerilla fantasy I'd have my spare parts at a base camp or stash just like guys with AR15s would do... and the best part I need ZERO tools to replace every component.
3. No AR15 mag compatibility
The only situation a "bring your own gun to war day" would occur is if some American guerilla fantasy scenario happened. As a guerilla I'd have to have made some HUGE strategic error to be in a situation where if I don't immediately load your AR15 magazine into my rifle I'm going to die. The fundamental strategy of guerilla campaigns is to not get into long drawn out fights with a superior force. If you read any books about successful guerilla wars you'd understand that getting yourself into a situation like that then standing and fighting a overwhelming force is a detriment to you. This isn't some "go, ill hold them back" last stand male fantasy, the entire mission of a guerilla is to hit a strategic target you have the odds of winning against then leaving as soon as possible. Hit and run, a guerillas sole goal in asymmetric warfare is to survive. Overwhelm an inferior force then leave, rinse and repeat. this point you made about magazines doesn't hold the weight you think it does. A better argument in this scenario would be "it would be difficult to get more mags or replacement AUG magazines in a protracted conflict" as mags are perishable assets. And my response to that argument is that I own over 50 Aug magazines...
4. The life span of the AUG and it's practicality
Steyr AUGs have a long life span man, they are built tough as hell for a reason. the Austrians fully expected to be utilizing these rifles in degraded logistic situations if the cold war got hot. They were designed to require little to no tools at all to do basic maintenance and field repair. These rifles are accurate and reliable every part than can break can be easily replaced by a conscript. It's compact size is the same as a 14.5 AR15 with the stock fully collapsed with better ballistics, the glass in the built in optic is Zeiss glass or great quality and clarity, the trigger is an over blown complaint parroted online all too often, if you actually shoot your guns often you will not be at a disadvantage with it, its not a precision match rifle combat rifles don't have to be and honestly shouldn't be. The upgrades I added make the rifle better but they are not required to make the rifle "good" as they are fantastic in stock configuration right off the factory line. The price of the rifle and upgrades I added are a higher upfront cost than your base AR15 but the further upgrade cost is significantly lower than most people think, it all just depends you you set up your AR15 and your AUG you can go cheap or expensive with upgrades on both platforms. The Aug is a very practical rifle, in both the context of military adoption and civilian ownership and I highly recommend them if someone is seriously considering a bullpup.
I appreciate the comment and view but I had to push back on your opinions, I enjoy these type of discussions and if you have any counterpoints or questions I'd love to hear them and continue this conversation.
@@cloneordie3828 I should have clarified. I'm not opposed to buying expensive guns, it was simply the cost in comparison to still needing upgrades after the fact. My AR's are just as expensive, so its not about saying "my $600 AR is just as good bro, you wasted your money." Its that I build all mine the way I want the first time, so needing to replace parts seems like extra steps that I would prefer weren't there with a gun at its price range. That's why I choose to build my guns myself anyways. Its the same reason people complain about DD putting milspec triggers in their guns, the trigger isn't bad by any stretch, but its like...really? As "better" becomes standard then why isn't it already in there for the price? Even if Steyr raised the price slightly, it would be preferable. Its been in production since the 70's, fix it.
Also, I don't fantasize about war within our borders, I dislike the idea and prefer to keep using my guns for fun and training. My reason for preparedness is worry, not joy. But lets not kid ourselves, people who buy as many guns and kit as gun enthusiasts do... we all think about it. So I'm not going to pretend that I'm too cool to worry about it, but also I'm not so delusional to think that I need to build a fallout shelter in my basement either. I just try to implement some level of preparedness into my life where I can, and my chosen grab and go weapon would not be a mostly proprietary Austrian bullpup, regardless of the conflict type because it simply doesn't make logistical sense for compatibility with my peers. I don't know what a conflict might look like, guerrilla seems like the most plausible, but idk. As far as "bring your own gun to war" I mean, don't previous conflicts often show that partisans often equip themselves? So it doesn't seem out of the equation.
The fact that it comes with a 3x optic, if you buy that version, is cool and its high value...if its good and fits the user. I don't know, I haven't looked through one. All I know is that a lot of people don't like the same things and they don't all work for them. So I wouldn't automatically count that as a pro. But it does work for you, so that's good, that's not in the con box for you. Many of my reasons to oppose the AUG in this role is in the context of recommending them to people as their first rifle, so the optic is more of a question mark in my mind. No idea if it would work for the person in question.
AR15 spares - Carrying a complete extra bolt (not carrier), cam pin, firing pin, FPRP, and gas rings for the installed bolt is easy to throw into a cleaning kit to put in your bag. The carrier body is unnecessary as long as starting with a well sealed, torqued and staked gas key to begin with. So yes, I would carry spares for the critical wear items. The AUG's extractor and ejector appear to be proprietary. There aren't many extractors or ejectors I can think of that last forever. The AK even has an issue where the solid ejector can peen over causing malfunctions at high round counts, needing to be welded reshaped and hardened. One spare may be all your need, so perhaps its fine. But don't lose it and good luck finding another. Its not that its unsolvable, but the AR puts you in an easier position for an unknown situation is my point.
Mags - that was definitely part of my point. The hope is that you have access to your stash of mags. Sourcing them, and sourcing parts is the entire point I was making in regards to beyond what stash you have available. Needing to leave behind and acquire another gun is always an option. So I guess it doesn't matter. But I'd rather start with something that has easier logistics to begin with.
Suppressed usage - in my mind suppressors are a must especially with the advanced designs that are available now. I have no idea how compatible an AUG is with cans, but i know that piston guns unlock sooner and more violently than DI, so I don't imagine that bodes well for parts wear, again highlighting the extractor. I see they sell an suppressed adjustable gas regulator, but would be nice if it came with it.
Preparedness is about trying to set ourselves up for unforeseen events. The AUG isn't an unsolvable problem for this, my point is that the AR is much easier logistically.
Btw, apparently there is an AUG trigger available from ARID concepts? Do you have any thoughts on it? Perhaps you could review it, would be cool.
If I had any reason to believe in the 223/556 I would be Augtistisc
AUG is best.
Ya mean AUGasm
that's a new one, I'll be using this in the future hahaha
You can get flat, full length top rails as well as hand guards to get that rail space. Also, after market triggers.
Now, if you want to criticize something it would have to be the price. After all the mods and add ons you will have dumped a lot of money into it. For that money you can get a fully specced, high end AR and still have money left for the very best optics.
Other than that I'd say it's the best do it all rifle. It's just so compact.
I mean who doesn't have an AR overload by now? It's gets awfully boring to see the same unoriginal builds all the time tbh. I mean guys, you mf'ers are absolutely interchangeable with your stupid a flannel shirts and have not a single original thought. I mean why tf do you wear a helmet? God it's so boring. LARP drones... 😂
the cheapest way to get into the AUG is buy a flattop AUG on sale and buy a eotech or Aimpoint pro, you'd be below $2000 at that point. Or you could do what I did and get the built in optic model, but like you said if you want to go deep on the upgrades it will cost you.
@@cloneordie3828 forgot. I'm Swiss. AUGs are 3600usd here. Guns are cheap af in the US. You guys don't know how good you have it...
@@mysterioanonymous3206 I feel for you man, that is rough. But look o the bright side, you can get guns we can't ever dream of getting here. Sig 553s here are like $4500+ if you're lucky enough to get one. got to look at the positives as well as the negatives
I have a friend whose father owns an AUG, and who likes to shoot it with him. I call them Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy.
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