Complimenti al regista! Anche il montaggio è semplice e avvincente, molto interessante la ricostruzione storica delle armi; peccato che la risoluzione sia bassa... Mi piacerebbe tanto vederlo per intero: come si intitola il film?
Its pretty old movie, 1955, and sadly i do not think there is a translation. However modern movie is already in making so if you are interested in this topic, just wait a little. Hopefully its gonna be better than this one, and with english translation :)
Husite byli jedni z prvnich, kteri zavedli artilerii. To pouze film ve skutecnosti pravdepodobne nasypali jezky pred pojzdnou hradbou. Houfnice dostrel asi max 1 km ale koule dokazala zabit pripadne zranit 15 - 20 utocniku.Obrnec v bazine to nemel jednoduche. Brneni vazilo minimalne 20 kg ne li vic, mec 5 kg.
20 kg vážil tak gambeson ( ránu měkčící oblek z husté látky ) s podšívkou pod zbytkem zbroje + rukavice a přilbice. Brnění panstva, ukázané ve filmu, při výrobě na tehdejší chlapy vážilo kolem 50 kg, jakmile se obněnec ocitl bez koně, jeho mobilita klesla o dobrých 60% čistě kvůli oné váze, nikoli omezením v konstrukci jeho zbroje jak se někteří domnívají. V tom bahně skutečně neměli proti lehce oděným sedlákům žádnou šanci, neboť se podšívka pod zbrojí nasákla a ztěžkla. Samotný pohyb v bahně je beztak obtížný i pro nalehko oděným neb se člověk boří a zem ho nechce pustit. Závěr Sudoměře je v podstatě menší verze bitvy u Kresčaku, kdy před bitvou vydatně pršelo a rozbahnilo celé budoucí bitevní pole. Lehce oděným anglánům nedělo žádný problém sundat sprškou šípů na koních obrněné kontinentály a v malých skupinkách přemoct a podřezat byť početné, ale v bahně nepohyblivé protivníky. Je nutné ovšem připočíst nesouhru a neorganizovanost tehdejšího kontinentálního vojska, kde se chtěli rytíři předvést a neuposlechli nebo se jim ve zmatku způsobeným početností sesbírané armády nedostalo včas příkazů. PS: Pane Rimmenfalk neberte tento komentář nijak negativně, byl zamýšlen jen jako přídavek k vašim posledním dvou větám.
@@petrpinc7695 Dekuji za Vasi pouceni. Brneni bylo velmi drahe v te dobe a kde kdo si nemohl dovolit.Dehdejsi delostrelci dokazali vystrelit odhaduji tak 5 ran za minutu. Strileili plnymi koulemi bud kammenne nebo z olova. Jedna takova koule svou energiji dokazala udelat ulici mezi jezdci. To nezabilo pouze jednoho rytire mojim odhadem tak 20 nejmin.Hluk vystrelu plasil kone i jezdci byli tim ovlivneni. Na vzdalenost pod 100 m se pouzily kuse a luky. 30m praky. Kdyz kamen na pr. vazi 0,5 kg a jejich sto a dopadnou na kone a jezdce. Zadni voj nemohl vyvinout velkou rychlost ponevadz na bojisti lezeli raneni kone a jezdci. To je taky prekazka. Nakonec pred vozovou hradbou mohli dati jezky byt i ze dreva.Ja se mozna v tom mylim ale tak to mohlo byti.Ve vypoustenem rybniku mohou byti i diry 1 m az 2 m hluboke maskovane bahnem.
@@petrpinc7695 20 kg prošívanice? To určitě, tipl bych si 5 kg max. 20 kg už byla váha kvalitní plátové zbroje a mimochodem kroužková zbroj, která poskytovala pořád lepší ochranu než prošívaná ve většině případů, byla přitom lehčí než uvedených 20 kilo... 50 kg zbroj na sobě nikdo neměl pokud to nebyl obr, to možná až v 16. století turnajová zbroj tolik mohla vážit. Jinak rytíři byli velice fyzicky zdatní a i při váze brnění 30 kg a více pro ně nebyl problém vstát, samozřejmě pokud byli v bahně, tak to problém docela byl. S tou neorganizovaností máte pravdu, nějaké dodržování bitevního planu byla pro rytíře španělská vesnice, byli zvyklí s kopím vyjet na protivníka před sebou a pokud možno bez zdržování, aby jim slávu a případného zajatce, za které by bylo vysoké výkupné, nevyfoukl někdo jiný.
jose suarez Jan Ziska is Bohemia-Czech national hero.But that time Czech language was close to language of Poland,...Poles,Czechs,Slovaks can understand each other till these days.
Jak by jsi si to predstavoval? Zapad nebyl pripraven na valku.Jedini co nas nechteli dat byli Rusove. A vis co aspon jsme slovane . Dnes jen mohu poukazat na to jak nas zapad nechal napospas. A je tak jednodusi videt jak Brusel nema nasi budoucnost v povedomi. Ono dnes je to jeste horsi, Brusell nema ani zajem o budoucnost zapadnich zemi.... Well, UK separated, in part because they use to give orders not to receive them
it's a movie trilogy. Jan Hus (1954) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hus_(1954_film) Jan Žižka (1956) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka_(1955_film) Proti všem (1957) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All
+andreabiotti1 It was really a huge movie trilogy - paid by the communists party who ruled in our country. While its possible, that some Knights of St. John attended the battle (since hussites were proclaimed to be heretics and antichrists), I doubt it. You see - those costumes in the movies were in big part not costumes, but real clothes and armors commie party stole from castles and other properties stolen from the nobility. So more probably they used everything they found including St. Johns order clothes...
+Carthoo That knights was from Hospitalier (in time, they take take name as "Maltese knights" and they are known as knights of saint John also) order (this order own Strakonice, so they were first force to act against Husites). But even if this knights at Middle East defend Europe, they totally failed against Husites. About 400 mens, womans and childs stayed against hundreds of well equipted, trained, mounted knights. And famous knights failed. And the kings knights failed too. 2000 well equipted, trained mounted knights loss the battle against 400 mans, womans and childrens...and that day legend of Jan Žižka was born. It was, many years after this battle, Husites stayed with another Europeans (mostly Polish and Hussites fight as equal against muslim invasion, the Czech/Polish king died when he tryed to stop muslim invasion, and hussitess hold, theyrs last stand, for their country, Europe, and everything that they hold dear. From my opinion, if Europe do not waste time and lives fighting each ather, that king (and hundreds of thousands) can live, because Europe wasted its best against each other. Still even at that horrific battle it was Husites who stayed longer that anyone else...
In the battle, there were 2-4 hundreds knights hospitaler from the nearby town of Strakonice, where they were based. Order of the Knights of Saint John is still present in our country, but they are now about helping the poor, rather than figting :)
@@Carthoo apart from knights hospitaler indeed took part in this battle where did you get that nonsense with: "...those costumes in the movies were in big part not costumes, but real clothes and armors commie party stole from castles and other properties stolen from the nobility. So more probably they used everything they found including St. Johns order clothes..."................you are very naive if you think they would took real 15th century equipment and especially as for clothing!That would be so rare exponate museum piece that not even communist would be so silly to use it as props in a film to be worn by actors(thats totally crazy idea!),not to mention that clothing from 15th century would hardly be in so good condition to allow such use in the first place.Most costumes for this movie were created directly for this trilogy of films(including armour and weapons-some of which are visibly not real weapons in some shots) and after concept artworks made for it which I saw.Moreover It was not first hussite film ever made in Bohemia.First was produced already prior communist rule when country had democratic regime and costums were even better(although that film,first made in color in czech movie history,was bad its costumes are still very good to look at).
+AliceMarieM My guess would be "Jan Žižka". There were two related films shot in the fifties handling the Hussite era - Jan Žižka (watch?v=0iToDQagmCU) and the sequel Proti všem. Naturally the historic accuracy was not the issue of the day, it was more like an imitation of Alexandr Nevsky movie, aimed to spur the negative feelings towards the west and catholic church. And a celebration of the work of A. Jirásek (author of the book)
Netuším jak může studium historie pomoci s rozeznáním ruštiny od polštiny, oba jazyky jsou slovanské a když pořádně neznám ani jeden, znějí podobně. A laskavě se uklidni, pro tvoji informaci mám VŠ titul z historie (odborník na slovanské jazyky ale nejsem).
We win in the swamps .. this is only 1 true , we beat this germans , turkey and anothers .. Morovian peoples , when raise up , never run back , we fight to the dead. If you come to the Morovie you can watch many holy buildings from wars. Morovia and Slezia. I am not Czech i am Morovian ( Moravan ) .
Armor and cavalry is kind of useless against firearms. Also flails and generaly bludgeoning weapons are best kind against armor. So yeah, armor is useless in this movie since they are going against army that counters them almost perfectly. That was one of bigger reasons why hussites won so many battles since no other army was capable of such fast evolution to react to that.
iglidor lmfaooooo haha. What flails and bludgeons mate. Heavily armored knights dying by light taps from wooden shafts. Btw flails were rarely used due to their inpracticality in combat. Rather pickaxes, maces and heck, even swords were more reliable.Well no, there were quite a number of such engagements in which lightly equipped peasants destroyed a knightly army. It's all about tactics and dedication in the first place. Anyway, my point is how silly armor is treated in like 99% of movies. In real life blunt trauma to be lethal it takes heck of a lot, especialy when wearing padded stuff, cloth and chainmail and on top of all that, frikkin plate armour lool.
LKVideos This movie is made by historic records,if you going to visit Czech Republic (Bohemia) you will see the Sudomer and even the small lake where it's happened.Jan Ziska was the greatest Bohemian military leader at all times.He fight to death the heavy horsemen when all European leaders trust for 200 years, that time,heavy calvary is weapon of victory.Bohemia's farmer's invented coach defend system and howitzer,than weapons made from farming tools improved by blacksmiths.Heavy horseman was usable against about the same weight enemy,not against 6xlighter and fast fighter.History repeated itself when wwll German heavy tanks get smashed by good equipped infantry or lighter and fast tanks
Там плохой русский перевод, потому что Жижка несказал "Пускай бегут, мы их догоним" но он сказал "Пускай бегут, мы их в етом ещо выучим..." :-)
Zizka is love, Zizka is life.
On bojoval za pravdu. He was fighting for truth.
An interesting fact: The scenes were filmed at the authentic place of the battle.
Ya back during socialism we had great film studio...
... also at the same or very similar part of year and same hour of day (thus landscape and daylight should be similar as in actual battle).
Очень интересная информация, правдоподобная
Complimenti al regista! Anche il montaggio è semplice e avvincente, molto interessante la ricostruzione storica delle armi; peccato che la risoluzione sia bassa... Mi piacerebbe tanto vederlo per intero: come si intitola il film?
Film se jmenuje Jan Žižka(1955)
Hrrrr na ně!!! Bratři!!!!
is there an English Translation for this movie? I think they have done an awesome job. the costumes arms and armor are spot on.!
Its pretty old movie, 1955, and sadly i do not think there is a translation. However modern movie is already in making so if you are interested in this topic, just wait a little. Hopefully its gonna be better than this one, and with english translation :)
english subtitles max....this is original czech movie of only one age when czech are warriors ......HUSSITES
Upload, please
The blinded Czech dud who never lost a battle
The colour worn is accurate as with methods of fighting
Husite byli jedni z prvnich, kteri zavedli artilerii. To pouze film ve skutecnosti pravdepodobne nasypali jezky pred pojzdnou hradbou. Houfnice dostrel asi max 1 km ale koule dokazala zabit pripadne zranit 15 - 20 utocniku.Obrnec v bazine to nemel jednoduche. Brneni vazilo minimalne 20 kg ne li vic, mec 5 kg.
20 kg vážil tak gambeson ( ránu měkčící oblek z husté látky ) s podšívkou pod zbytkem zbroje + rukavice a přilbice. Brnění panstva, ukázané ve filmu, při výrobě na tehdejší chlapy vážilo kolem 50 kg, jakmile se obněnec ocitl bez koně, jeho mobilita klesla o dobrých 60% čistě kvůli oné váze, nikoli omezením v konstrukci jeho zbroje jak se někteří domnívají. V tom bahně skutečně neměli proti lehce oděným sedlákům žádnou šanci, neboť se podšívka pod zbrojí nasákla a ztěžkla. Samotný pohyb v bahně je beztak obtížný i pro nalehko oděným neb se člověk boří a zem ho nechce pustit.
Závěr Sudoměře je v podstatě menší verze bitvy u Kresčaku, kdy před bitvou vydatně pršelo a rozbahnilo celé budoucí bitevní pole. Lehce oděným anglánům nedělo žádný problém sundat sprškou šípů na koních obrněné kontinentály a v malých skupinkách přemoct a podřezat byť početné, ale v bahně nepohyblivé protivníky. Je nutné ovšem připočíst nesouhru a neorganizovanost tehdejšího kontinentálního vojska, kde se chtěli rytíři předvést a neuposlechli nebo se jim ve zmatku způsobeným početností sesbírané armády nedostalo včas příkazů.
PS: Pane Rimmenfalk neberte tento komentář nijak negativně, byl zamýšlen jen jako přídavek k vašim posledním dvou větám.
@@petrpinc7695 Dekuji za Vasi pouceni. Brneni bylo velmi drahe v te dobe a kde kdo si nemohl dovolit.Dehdejsi delostrelci dokazali vystrelit odhaduji tak 5 ran za minutu. Strileili plnymi koulemi bud kammenne nebo z olova. Jedna takova koule svou energiji dokazala udelat ulici mezi jezdci. To nezabilo pouze jednoho rytire mojim odhadem tak 20 nejmin.Hluk vystrelu plasil kone i jezdci byli tim ovlivneni. Na vzdalenost pod 100 m se pouzily kuse a luky. 30m praky. Kdyz kamen na pr. vazi 0,5 kg a jejich sto a dopadnou na kone a jezdce. Zadni voj nemohl vyvinout velkou rychlost ponevadz na bojisti lezeli raneni kone a jezdci. To je taky prekazka. Nakonec pred vozovou hradbou mohli dati jezky byt i ze dreva.Ja se mozna v tom mylim ale tak to mohlo byti.Ve vypoustenem rybniku mohou byti i diry 1 m az 2 m hluboke maskovane bahnem.
@@petrpinc7695 20 kg prošívanice? To určitě, tipl bych si 5 kg max. 20 kg už byla váha kvalitní plátové zbroje a mimochodem kroužková zbroj, která poskytovala pořád lepší ochranu než prošívaná ve většině případů, byla přitom lehčí než uvedených 20 kilo... 50 kg zbroj na sobě nikdo neměl pokud to nebyl obr, to možná až v 16. století turnajová zbroj tolik mohla vážit. Jinak rytíři byli velice fyzicky zdatní a i při váze brnění 30 kg a více pro ně nebyl problém vstát, samozřejmě pokud byli v bahně, tak to problém docela byl.
S tou neorganizovaností máte pravdu, nějaké dodržování bitevního planu byla pro rytíře španělská vesnice, byli zvyklí s kopím vyjet na protivníka před sebou a pokud možno bez zdržování, aby jim slávu a případného zajatce, za které by bylo vysoké výkupné, nevyfoukl někdo jiný.
took me a while to figure they were speaking Czech. Then I heard ano lol
jose suarez Jan Ziska is Bohemia-Czech national hero.But that time Czech language was close to language of Poland,...Poles,Czechs,Slovaks can understand each other till these days.
They are not Czechs they are Bohemians.
@@peterrimmenfalk4287 idiot
Hussite = CZECH !
Markus Official Kéž by.....
Hussite = nothing to do with nationality although most followers were ethnical Czechs.
věčná čest a sláva našim předkům
Salute Slovanská krev!!
kde by Čechové dnes byli kdyby je ta západní svoloč v 1938 nezradila??!!!!!
🙄
pod drnem ty ichtyle
Jak by jsi si to predstavoval? Zapad nebyl pripraven na valku.Jedini co nas nechteli dat byli Rusove. A vis co aspon jsme slovane .
Dnes jen mohu poukazat na to jak nas zapad nechal napospas.
A je tak jednodusi videt jak Brusel nema nasi budoucnost v povedomi.
Ono dnes je to jeste horsi, Brusell nema ani zajem o budoucnost zapadnich zemi....
Well, UK separated, in part because they use to give orders not to receive them
Could you or anyone else please tell me the name of this movie? I would to see more ''footage?'' of the battles that portray Jan Zizka.
it's a movie trilogy. Jan Hus (1954) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hus_(1954_film)
Jan Žižka (1956) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka_(1955_film)
Proti všem (1957) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All
@@Prometheus101 Thank you.
pěkný😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Лошадок жалко.😥
Very interesting ! But i wonder if the knight black dressed with white crosses, were knights of saint John....Could someone answer to me ? Thanks !
+andreabiotti1 It was really a huge movie trilogy - paid by the communists party who ruled in our country. While its possible, that some Knights of St. John attended the battle (since hussites were proclaimed to be heretics and antichrists), I doubt it. You see - those costumes in the movies were in big part not costumes, but real clothes and armors commie party stole from castles and other properties stolen from the nobility. So more probably they used everything they found including St. Johns order clothes...
+Carthoo That knights was from Hospitalier (in time, they take take name as
"Maltese knights" and they are known as knights of saint John also) order (this order own Strakonice, so they were first force to act against Husites). But even if this knights at Middle East defend
Europe, they totally failed against Husites. About 400 mens, womans and
childs stayed against hundreds of well equipted, trained, mounted
knights. And famous knights failed. And the kings knights failed too. 2000 well equipted, trained mounted knights loss the battle against 400 mans, womans and childrens...and that day legend of Jan Žižka was born. It was, many years after this battle, Husites stayed
with another Europeans (mostly Polish and Hussites fight as equal
against muslim invasion, the Czech/Polish king died when he tryed to
stop muslim invasion, and hussitess hold, theyrs last stand, for their country, Europe, and everything that they hold dear. From my opinion, if Europe do not waste time and
lives fighting each ather, that king (and hundreds of thousands) can
live, because Europe wasted its best against each other. Still even at
that horrific battle it was Husites who stayed longer that anyone else...
+Ondřej Čiviš Thanks for the info, good to know!
In the battle, there were 2-4 hundreds knights hospitaler from the nearby town of Strakonice, where they were based. Order of the Knights of Saint John is still present in our country, but they are now about helping the poor, rather than figting :)
@@Carthoo apart from knights hospitaler indeed took part in this battle where did you get that nonsense with: "...those costumes in the movies were in big part not costumes, but real clothes and armors commie party stole from castles and other properties stolen from the nobility. So more probably they used everything they found including St. Johns order clothes..."................you are very naive if you think they would took real 15th century equipment and especially as for clothing!That would be so rare exponate museum piece that not even communist would be so silly to use it as props in a film to be worn by actors(thats totally crazy idea!),not to mention that clothing from 15th century would hardly be in so good condition to allow such use in the first place.Most costumes for this movie were created directly for this trilogy of films(including armour and weapons-some of which are visibly not real weapons in some shots) and after concept artworks made for it which I saw.Moreover It was not first hussite film ever made in Bohemia.First was produced already prior communist rule when country had democratic regime and costums were even better(although that film,first made in color in czech movie history,was bad its costumes are still very good to look at).
Bijte, je bijte, nikoho nezivte , nase je pravda, abuh s nama proti papezencum, panum, ...protoze vzdy pretece pohar...
Česká republiky
Wish we could turn off the voice over
the translating program sucks.
RC Church didn't like 'patent infringement' on their 'Brand' of Christianity.
BRATŘI HRRR NA NĚ
What film is this from?
+AliceMarieM My guess would be "Jan Žižka". There were two related films shot in the fifties handling the Hussite era - Jan Žižka (watch?v=0iToDQagmCU) and the sequel Proti všem. Naturally the historic accuracy was not the issue of the day, it was more like an imitation of Alexandr Nevsky movie, aimed to spur the negative feelings towards the west and catholic church. And a celebration of the work of A. Jirásek (author of the book)
+Paul Sahara And Jan Hus :)
kvetakovec1 Ahh, thanks, you are the Pilsner historian? :))
Рыцари никогда не умели толком воевать :(
У них всегда была тупая тактика биться в лоб!
Расскажи это мусульманам у Гроба Господня
Czech language is only the language spoken on the background. The dub seems to be Polish
Not Polish, it's Russian!
Ferdish3 I stand corrected.
moron you had better study hisory
Netuším jak může studium historie pomoci s rozeznáním ruštiny od polštiny, oba jazyky jsou slovanské a když pořádně neznám ani jeden, znějí podobně. A laskavě se uklidni, pro tvoji informaci mám VŠ titul z historie (odborník na slovanské jazyky ale nejsem).
a slyšel si někdy polštinu? já bych řekl že asi ne
We win in the swamps .. this is only 1 true , we beat this germans , turkey and anothers .. Morovian peoples , when raise up , never run back , we fight to the dead. If you come to the Morovie you can watch many holy buildings from wars. Morovia and Slezia. I am not Czech i am Morovian ( Moravan ) .
Moravian beer is the best!!
Salu nasa krew
Registered naive battle scenes.😁
That's how it happened :)
What is naive on the battle scene?!
Sláva
lmfao armour is absolutly useless in this movie :D
who needs armour when the God is on your side?!
Armor and cavalry is kind of useless against firearms. Also flails and generaly bludgeoning weapons are best kind against armor. So yeah, armor is useless in this movie since they are going against army that counters them almost perfectly. That was one of bigger reasons why hussites won so many battles since no other army was capable of such fast evolution to react to that.
iglidor lmfaooooo haha. What flails and bludgeons mate. Heavily armored knights dying by light taps from wooden shafts. Btw flails were rarely used due to their inpracticality in combat. Rather pickaxes, maces and heck, even swords were more reliable.Well no, there were quite a number of such engagements in which lightly equipped peasants destroyed a knightly army. It's all about tactics and dedication in the first place. Anyway, my point is how silly armor is treated in like 99% of movies. In real life blunt trauma to be lethal it takes heck of a lot, especialy when wearing padded stuff, cloth and chainmail and on top of all that, frikkin plate armour lool.
LKVideos This movie is made by historic records,if you going to visit Czech Republic (Bohemia) you will see the Sudomer and even the small lake where it's happened.Jan Ziska was the greatest Bohemian military leader at all times.He fight to death the heavy horsemen when all European leaders trust for 200 years, that time,heavy calvary is weapon of victory.Bohemia's farmer's invented coach defend system and howitzer,than weapons made from farming tools improved by blacksmiths.Heavy horseman was usable against about the same weight enemy,not against 6xlighter and fast fighter.History repeated itself when wwll German heavy tanks get smashed by good equipped infantry or lighter and fast tanks
you completly miss he point of my comment. Yes this movie is *BASED* on a historical event, but this is not how armor works mate .... lool
to be honest, it was not really battle, this depiction is quite exagerated, especially the numbers and casualities.
It was reall battle!!You can visit the place.Exagerated?If you do not know history/reality than do not comment it.It is exactly like it was.
Not every battle have thousends of men and casualities.