@@sjvche7675 coaxial rotor would be even better, then the design can keep the pusher prop unshrouded and ditch the complex "rudder work" around it. With added wings the the rotor could be unloaded completely in cruise flight. I think one can get away with actually stalling the retreating blade. As long as the rotor is unloaded, it should not cause blade collision. Means you can go faster for a given rotor rpm.
@@jacobdorris2871 I was today years old. It’s a degeneration of society to speak like a child when you are an adult. People are regressing and losing character.
It would have been interesting/helpful to include some data/test results: how did this compare to the UH-60 (which it is mostly based on) in terms of speed, range, altitude, payload... and how significantly did it differ from the UH-60? Same engines? Could it be manufactured on the same assembly line? Cost increase?
this was likely in order to test the viability of the technology rather than worrying about adaptability. don't think youtube likes people posting links but you can find something called defiant x by googling it which is a Lockheed program of creating the next generation of helicopters which incorporates this exact technology and plenty of others. their plan from the start wasn't to modify the UH-60 long-term, it's just a platform to test this technology for "next generation" aircraft.
Lockheed Skunkwork aerospace engineers are left debating for hours and hours next to wind tunnel testings at Homey and Indian springs over the subject of drag! Just throw in a big hair dryer on the end of it, there you go Air Wolf, job done!
@@loomzoom The wings are actually to provide lift and stability (notice the flaps). At speed, they greatly improved fuel efficiency by taking stress of the main rotor (possibly even allowing the rotor to spin freely like a gyrocopter). This makes the aircraft operate similar to the Fairey Rotodyne, but utilizing a more conventional layout.
@@epikmanthe3rd Sorry to be dumb but will this helo turn without the rear rotor? (Sorry again for being dumb and bad english, just trying to get several infos since im a military enthusiast.
@@hallg1325 Yes. You can see that metal plate is slightly turned to left on back rotor? That's probably to make counter to main rotor. Sorry for bad English i hope you understand what i tried to say 😁
I dont see what people’s problem with this thing is! In late 2008 they were able to take a normal black hawk, throw some wings and a vectored thrust tail duct on it, and increase the speed by 40%!!!! Thats awesome. They didn’t touch the engines or anything
I could see this as a viable supplement to dustoff/CASEVAC missions. Future conflicts could see corpsman and medics further and further away from a role 2, and possibly without the luxury of air superiority we've had in the past. Conventional rotors will definitely struggle as the "Golden Hour" could quickly become the Golden Day.
Westland Lynx British helicopter established the world speed record back in the 70s at 238 knots per hour. Superb multirole helicopter, now replaced by the Merlin.
Even then i'm sure that's an absolute ace test pilot flying it with thousands and thousands of hours, more capable than any of us, but theres some obvious roll instability and the rear wheel doesn't seem too excited to leave the ground. This is indicative of a somewhat rearward biased (compared to similar helicopters) weight distribution can lead to the rear wheel to stop rolling or sliding across the ground but rather dig into it, similar to the front skids on other helicopters. If you've seen heli takeoff crash videos, you'll know it can cause what is known as a 'dynamic rollover' where no amount of collective or cyclic manipulation can settle the helicopter upright, it's already been put into a situation that will throw it on it's side. It's a really cool design but theres a reason no military air arm worldwide has budged and made this configuration a reality in terms of large scale production after all these years
Sikorsky X2 and its variants are like that. It has pros and cons compared to this. It has a much smaller rear prop because in that case it provides forward thrust only, here it also creates anti torque because there's only one rotor.
Shorter Five blade rotor and make it a 50/50 power split at take off. With the right prop you could transition to auto gyration and channel that power to the pusher.
Эта тема ещё а шестидесятых была в союзе популярна. Пока не гробанулась опытная машина. Дает чуть больше грузоподъёмность, но расход возрастает. Гибрид - не раба, не мясо.
Black Hawk with modifications engineering improving what you already have in part carry more on those short wings being more manoeuvre able all a big plus.
i wonder thou... what if side rotor would be electrically powered than there would be no need for shaft and you could rotate it from side rotor to pusher prop.
Este helicóptero serviría mas como un vehículo medico militar por la rapidez y la tecnología, pero como de combate es muy ruidoso y un poco inestable muy ligero, no aguantaría cierto peso en armamento, en mi opinión...
still the forward rotor blades will be already travel the speed of sound. there is a limit to its speed. the rear fan is ridiculous, heavy and looks unbalanced aft CG.
Yes, but the wings (especially the one on the stalling side of the disc) will provide enough lift to compensate for the blade stall. Having wings that provide lift at high(er) speed where the main rotor has retreating blade stall and the thrust from the vectoring ducted fan in the back allows it to achieve much higher speed than a regular helicopter. That's the main reason for this project, a faster helicopter that can hover (almost) as efficiently as a regular one.
Test Pilot:
Engineers: Dont worry, It all makes sense on paper.
A hell of lot more sense then tilt rotor
@@sjvche7675 how?
@@levimaxton6307 i think he mean it seems less impossiable than tit rotors.
Lol
@@sjvche7675 coaxial rotor would be even better, then the design can keep the pusher prop unshrouded and ditch the complex "rudder work" around it.
With added wings the the rotor could be unloaded completely in cruise flight. I think one can get away with actually stalling the retreating blade. As long as the rotor is unloaded, it should not cause blade collision.
Means you can go faster for a given rotor rpm.
Shout out to my homies old enough to remember the show Air wolf.
One of my favorites as a child
Hawk is the king xD
@Excesv pretty dang close. Same idea, super advanced vehicle with a pilot/driver with authority issues.
I was racking my brain trying to remember its name! lol
Stringfellow Hawk - I wanted to be him...
I was today years old when I learned a craft like this even existed, and I’m sixty. The internet is an amazing place.
Don’t ever use that term again.
@@animalanimal7939 term?
@@animalanimal7939 term?
@@jacobdorris2871 I was today years old.
It’s a degeneration of society to speak like a child when you are an adult.
People are regressing and losing character.
it looks tail heavy
Reminds me of the "Oh-no" bird: coming in for a landing--
"Oh no,
OH NO--OHH NOOO!"
That's a big ass
نبقى فسية ديك تميل مع الهواء اين مايميل . والصمت خير ما اختاره الله . صباح الورد
@@mohamedbabo8885 No one here speaks ramen
YOu are tail heavy.
They need to hire a guy that says, 'Mike, I'm not sure that's a good Idea'
What's wrong with it tho? Seems solid to me...
It would have been interesting/helpful to include some data/test results: how did this compare to the UH-60 (which it is mostly based on) in terms of speed, range, altitude, payload... and how significantly did it differ from the UH-60? Same engines? Could it be manufactured on the same assembly line? Cost increase?
this was likely in order to test the viability of the technology rather than worrying about adaptability. don't think youtube likes people posting links but you can find something called defiant x by googling it which is a Lockheed program of creating the next generation of helicopters which incorporates this exact technology and plenty of others. their plan from the start wasn't to modify the UH-60 long-term, it's just a platform to test this technology for "next generation" aircraft.
Lockheed Skunkwork aerospace engineers are left debating for hours and hours next to wind tunnel testings at Homey and Indian springs over the subject of drag! Just throw in a big hair dryer on the end of it, there you go Air Wolf, job done!
It could be a good fast air ambulance.
Yea with a wings for weapons...
Who needs the sirens.
@@loomzoom The wings are actually to provide lift and stability (notice the flaps). At speed, they greatly improved fuel efficiency by taking stress of the main rotor (possibly even allowing the rotor to spin freely like a gyrocopter). This makes the aircraft operate similar to the Fairey Rotodyne, but utilizing a more conventional layout.
@@epikmanthe3rd Sorry to be dumb but will this helo turn without the rear rotor? (Sorry again for being dumb and bad english, just trying to get several infos since im a military enthusiast.
@@hallg1325 Yes. You can see that metal plate is slightly turned to left on back rotor? That's probably to make counter to main rotor. Sorry for bad English i hope you understand what i tried to say 😁
I dont see what people’s problem with this thing is! In late 2008 they were able to take a normal black hawk, throw some wings and a vectored thrust tail duct on it, and increase the speed by 40%!!!! Thats awesome. They didn’t touch the engines or anything
It sounds like a helicopter flying overhead and a Ducati on full song going past the front door. Amazing piece of kit!
I could see this as a viable supplement to dustoff/CASEVAC missions. Future conflicts could see corpsman and medics further and further away from a role 2, and possibly without the luxury of air superiority we've had in the past. Conventional rotors will definitely struggle as the "Golden Hour" could quickly become the Golden Day.
It's tail looks really heavy when he takes off. But when it gets speed it flies good.
The Airwolf theme keeps playing in my head.
Westland Lynx British helicopter established the world speed record back in the 70s at 238 knots per hour. Superb multirole helicopter, now replaced by the Merlin.
Looks like A Blackhawk, an air boat, and a cropduster had a wild fucking night several months ago
Respect from Poland!
About 3 years at the Wilmington airport, Delaware watching super fast amazing
Those who think the tail looks too heavy are forgetting that items like that can and probably are built with carbon fiber.
Even then i'm sure that's an absolute ace test pilot flying it with thousands and thousands of hours, more capable than any of us, but theres some obvious roll instability and the rear wheel doesn't seem too excited to leave the ground. This is indicative of a somewhat rearward biased (compared to similar helicopters) weight distribution can lead to the rear wheel to stop rolling or sliding across the ground but rather dig into it, similar to the front skids on other helicopters. If you've seen heli takeoff crash videos, you'll know it can cause what is known as a 'dynamic rollover' where no amount of collective or cyclic manipulation can settle the helicopter upright, it's already been put into a situation that will throw it on it's side. It's a really cool design but theres a reason no military air arm worldwide has budged and made this configuration a reality in terms of large scale production after all these years
Gotta ask how this thing yaw left and right during flight?
It is a very curious aircraft making an equally curious sound whole in flight.
Sick chop bro
Vectored thrust! What a fantastic idea: forward thrust and counter rotation at the same time!
how a vector thrust can counter rotation force?
@@qtreven by vectoring thrust sideways of course😸
In 50's this thing would most likely die in a prototype stage.
well i dont think anybody tried to do something like that than. i wonder why. i mean doesnt look like very complicated tech.
Sounds different. Finally in advance and helicopter technology
*Airwolf theme plays*
Why make the thingy around the back propeller round ? I've watched alot of UA-cam about stealth fighters round surfaces reflect back radar .
i saw another helicopter design like that only it had contra rotating blades seemed more stable and the fan at the back wasn't that huge
Sikorsky X2 and its variants are like that. It has pros and cons compared to this. It has a much smaller rear prop because in that case it provides forward thrust only, here it also creates anti torque because there's only one rotor.
very cool
Shorter Five blade rotor and make it a 50/50 power split at take off.
With the right prop you could transition to auto gyration and channel that power to the pusher.
Continuing to pioneer . . .
The apparatus at the tail makes for an easy take out target. Just my opinion.
So much for getting tail rotor vibes in
Эта тема ещё а шестидесятых была в союзе популярна. Пока не гробанулась опытная машина. Дает чуть больше грузоподъёмность, но расход возрастает. Гибрид - не раба, не мясо.
I don't know if this is legit but how the chopper stay stable?
And what about noise reduction of this one compared to ordinary one?
Black Hawk with modifications engineering improving what you already have in part carry more on those short wings being more manoeuvre able all a big plus.
i wonder thou... what if side rotor would be electrically powered than there would be no need for shaft and you could rotate it from side rotor to pusher prop.
Does anyone know how to get rid of the ads? They pop up every couple of minutes for me?
It looks tail heavy. I wonder what keeps it from spinning out of control
Strange and beauty.
best general helicopter！
음? 저런 테일로터 구조로도 토크가 상쇄되나요?
Did they install an industrial fan on the tail?
Este helicóptero serviría mas como un vehículo medico militar por la rapidez y la tecnología, pero como de combate es muy ruidoso y un poco inestable muy ligero, no aguantaría cierto peso en armamento, en mi opinión...
Wouldn't the much of the main rotors lift be wasted pushing down on those massive wings?
Vaya autogiro inverso con aspecto de helicóptero. Un cocktel volante
Wonder how this compares to the Osprey. In terms of payload, top speed etc.
Incomparable.
still the forward rotor blades will be already travel the speed of sound. there is a limit to its speed. the rear fan is ridiculous, heavy and looks unbalanced aft CG.
That’s just silliness , just because ya can don’t mean you should
Helicopter with a washer and dryer kewl
Outstanding United States Army technology.
Was it refitted from sikorsky s70?
Can't helicopters do that normally? Vectored type movement?
It looked extremely tail heavy when it lifted off.
Max speed?
It’s a high speed autogyro. 👍
didn't osprey or "X1B whatever helicopter with dual helicopter blades, with rotor int he back" take this helicpoters job?
Way ahead of it's Time
Its a UH-60 hybrid?
Take over tough & go of helos leaves titlt rotors in the dust crashing, super fast land & go.
Now I want to build an RC heli with a pusher tail, put the gyro on the rudder.
U NEED to do it and post videos-please!!
@@oxcart4172 jobless at the moment so unless someone wants to donate a cheap coax it will have to wait.
@@keithwhisman good ĺuck mate
Oh I like this one.
You got to be kidding...
nothing beats the Airwolf
Ok so as rotary wing aircraft mechanic, this reeks of constant maintenance issues. Also the pusher prop is extremely loud.
When they going to build thunderbird 2
He driftin 😎😎😎
Well it can fly but can it hover in one place and level itself out. 🤨
Me: i dont like to see the wings when hovering and vertical lifting...it makes me sad how heavy that is...
Is this helicopter a little tail heavy.question?
The pusher fans constantly moves the helicopter forward. For the helicopter to hover he has to lift his nose. Otherwise he would creep forward.
What engine drives the fan?
Ah wait a 24 V, DC voltage motor
It uses the tail rotor drive shaft system from the transmission, though it's been shortened with the removal of the vertical fin.
Airwolf, here we come 😁
I want the one in Avatar ...... LOL
Omg that design just looks so good.
Yupp,built one usa,my country wont hav money to do it lol😂
Reminds me of the Cheyenne attack helicopter.
You fight/capture these in Peace Walker.
It took off in 2007 and returned in 2008.
So, have they tried dropping a bird through that big assed ducted fan? Something tells me that would not end well.
TAIL DESIGN IS NICE
INCREASE FRONT CABINET WIDTH
INCREASE WEIGHT.
In Brazil.... "Gambiarra" named is!
😋
Good 👍👍👍
Definitely not a return to target...that was just a turn. - Former OH-58D pilot
I think a giant electric drone with piss all over this thing
Drones are for boys, helicopters are for men.
@@ZedNinetySix_ that is why there are more locust drones than there is every man, woman and child on earth waiting to be dispatched...
@@sirbubbles5506 Loophole: walls of fishnets
@@ZedNinetySix_ I'm talking military drones
Okay but why? Is something wrong with the current fleet? That looks like a lot of extra unnecessary parts to fail and look costly...
Sikorsky UH-60 Blackhawk. 193 knots stock. 🤔
Helicopter + plane + Hovercraft = helancraft?
It looks like it can go underwater like a submarine
very nice. @Nayan Dhor
The aim here I believe is to FAN the enemy silly.
Would have been a better design to have a counter rotating tail assembly. No shroud would have been required and would be terminally stable. Hmm
lose shroud drag & fan-flap & make the push prop turn & it will handle totally in control esp w/counter rotating 2nd rotor.
Muy buen imbento
How can that thing fly with that propellar at end?
@Shasta Graff read this 🖕
It was a joke. Never say read to person who has a vision impairment jackass
@Shasta Graff you get 3 cornea transplants and 2 retina detachments, and still tell me if your a bitch.
Omg. Are you frkm Canada?
@Shasta Graff i have a big tv monitor and magnifier that makes large print and zoom to see with eye that barely works. So kiss my Jewish Aa!😎🖕💩
Ah yes the love child of a helicopter and a swamp cooler
Is fkn fast!
I wonder how fast it can fly while dragging a big ice cream cone in the the back !
Wouldn’t this still be susceptible to retreating blade stall?
Yes, but the wings (especially the one on the stalling side of the disc) will provide enough lift to compensate for the blade stall. Having wings that provide lift at high(er) speed where the main rotor has retreating blade stall and the thrust from the vectoring ducted fan in the back allows it to achieve much higher speed than a regular helicopter. That's the main reason for this project, a faster helicopter that can hover (almost) as efficiently as a regular one.
That sucker looks heavy
Why?
Está muy conseguido. Lo más parecido a un abejorro. Ya le falta menos.
ブラックホークに扇風機つけたんか！？
They have not got the centre of gravity right
*SAY it Ain’t SO Joe, say it ain’t soo!*