Marine reacts to the Finnish Defense Forces Kontio 22 Exercise
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2022
- The FDF Combat Camera are really upping their game with these sick exercise videos! Super stoked to see what they produce in the future.
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The mittens are also called "no-can-do´s" because their size limits what you can do with them :D
you cant even shoot with them :)
and the mittens used under those "no-can-do's" go by the name "some-can-do's" or soukkarit because you can do atleast a bit more with them.
You can pick apples with them, that's about it.
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Good to hear the old name still applies. I/04 Res. Alik.
The Finns are an ultra-effective force. Much admired. ❤️ to 🇫🇮 from 🇬🇧
We are also ready for the russians...
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@IShowSped Did I hear a dog bark?
@IShowSped Don't puke up your pig fat and potatoes, Oleg. You might not get more. Good luck in Blyatsky Krai.
@@stss2442 Always!
The mine you were wondering about at 5:07 is a three-layer mine cake.
- There's a 20 kg block of TNT on the bottom
- a small explosive (~ 5kg) on top of it with peg pointing upwards
- and a regular 10 kg TNT mine of top, depressing the peg down.
If the mine on top is removed by hand or by an anti-mine vehicle, the peg on the small 5kg mine will depress and all 35 kg will explode. The goals is to damage enemy anti-mine vehicles.
Sniper rifle is a TAK-85. It's a rebuilt Mosin Nagant M1891 hex receiver with a hammer forged barrel, reinforced chassis, adjustable trigger and heavy ass stock.
My issue rifle had a receiver originally built to a rifle in Siestarjoki in 1897...
The tank commander using the AK is actually using his service weapon, it is somewhat smaller than RK variants. It's easier to handle inside the tank, at least that's what I've heard. Those AK's are standard for tank crews in Finland, and they are actually of East German origin.
Miksei vaa taittoperä?
@@Jantzku Näitä löytyy ja ajaa asian tarpeeksi hyvin niin riittää niitä parempia rynkkyjä jalkaväelle, ketkä niitä oikeasti tarvitsee. Vaunumiehillä kuitenkin se tärkein ase on nimenomaan se vaunu, ja jos se ei ole käytettävissä niin oma ase ajaa asian itsepuolustuksessa niin kauan että pääsee vaunulle.
And apparently there are huge amounts of them stored here around Finland. I heard 500k guns, but I'm not sure and prolly the big boot guys know better.
As far as I can remember when Finland bought bunch of soviet armor (mt-lb and the like) they came with crap-ton of AKs so they decided to arm crews with them and leave RKs for infantry who need proper bit of kit.
The tank crew has AK’s with folding wire stock because of the smaller profile, so it takes less space inside the tank and is easier to handle
The guy with caution tape wrapped around him and the guy rapid firing from the tank turret (has a band on his upper arm) are both basically OPFOR (called "yellow nation"/keltainen valtio in Finland).
Yes, digging frozen ground with all the roots and rocks is really annoying. In my military training (Finnish) they said, that when digging a foxhole, bedrock is not a barrier, it just slows things down a bit.
I was a conscript in FAF Signals way back in 89-90. I had a refresher week in 2002 and it was our young team leader who thought us old guys how to squeeze the last drop of mustard out of the aluminium tube. So it's not always all about the old wise men teaching the young ones.
And no, I'm not going to tell how to do the mustard trick. It's top secret military stuff... 😎
I guess it's first roll it normally until it rolled as tight as it goes. Then switch the grip so that you put your index finger and middle finger on both sides of the tube neck. then press the rolled up part with your thumb against your index and middle fingers. Out comes the last bit of mustard.
This here is actual war winning technology.
The yellow caution tape is commonly used to identify the OPFOR units in these exercises.
Sign of the legendary yellow state.
Proud member of the yellow state in this exercise. Just got done with the service a couple weeks ago.
I think the sniper rifle at 3:23 is the 7.62 Tkiv 85 (basically a modified Mosin Nagant) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_Tkiv_85
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Jep
Mines can be used to change enemy direction to more favorable ''kill zone'' where they can be ambushed by those NLAWs. Tanks dont really want to go into the woods so if they can block one road and he them take another road that has ambush ready and cordinates for artillery for that. Also they were preparing to take out that bridge so maybe they might let them come in and have them separated or even take them all out as they can't back off.
Word, thanks for the info!
That why allied almost lose war against japan in world war 2,did you know south east asian campaign only take 96 day the reason was japan use light tank, bicycle
The E-tools used by the US and Finland are pretty much 99% identical. The ones used in Finland are made by Fiskars, and the ones used in the US are made by Gerber, which is owned by Fiskars. So just the logos on the E-tools are different, haha.
And the Leopard 2 commander at 7:12 is opfor yes, but the rifle he has is the standard rifle used by Finnish Leopard 2 crews. They are East German AK's with folding stocks.
Oh snap, that's dope haha. Go figure you would have the answers 😅
Folding stock AK fits well inside tanks, tanks are not very spacious.
Finnish assault rifle model 1962 and later variants are a modification based on AK-47. It is handy to have same ammunition.
@@CombatArmsChannel the locking system on the gerber ones absolute ass too? Gets jammed impossibly hard every time you use it.
@@CombatArmsChannel For what I've heard the story goes that US was looking for a new e-tool and Fiskars (finnish company) offered their model that was already in use in Finland. US wanted a domestically manufactured tool so Fiskars started manufacturing the same tool under Gerber brand (US based) which they own and won the contract.
It doesn't have to be super early or late in Finland during winter, to have it be dark. As you experienced during the summer, it's sunny all the time, but in winter, it's almost darkness all the time
About mittens and other winter clothing, back in late nineties, when I served in the Kainuu Brigade, in northeastern Finland, Kainuu area, we were issued a so called nallepuku (cuddly bear suit might be a suitable translation). Back then, it was the most beloved piece of equipment/clothing among soldiers and suprisingly often "got lost" (i.e. the soldier stole it for himself and paid the army for it then). It had everything going for it: soft, very warm, really comfortable and still pretty durable. You couldn't buy anything like it from the civilian market for any kind of money, it was that good, possibly half wool, half polyester, some fellow Finn maybe can correct me if I remember wrong.
We were also issued two pairs of mittens that could be worn together or just one pair (depending on how many minus grades there were) inside the famous no-can-do outer layer mittens. I believe those inside layer mittens were of the same material as the nallepuku and as good stuff as that, really warm and comfy. I remember in winter 1999 it was -40 celsius for some time around Kajaani and even though I didn't wear the warmest pieces of FDF clothing at the time (the so called sissitakki, or recon jacket and the winter pants), I could still function outside and could have fought in combat in the clothing and boots I was wearing. Those mittens and nallepuku were the main components of my clothing, along with the standard (and outstanding) winter boots of FDF back then.
So even back then FDF had awesome clothing, boots and other equipment for cold environment. Our main problem was diesel engines. On some forest exercises the engines of trucks had to be kept running through the night, because there was not enough torches or other equipment for the regiment to warm up all the engines beforehand. The amount of smoke over our company was amazing. There was a thick layer of smoke about 50-100 meters above our camping area. Maybe that smoke could prevent bombers, drones or helicopters from seeing us. :D
Oh yeah and digging frozen ground is horrible! They said that in peacetime we are not allowed to use TNT for blowing up ground for mortars and foxholes, but that in wartime that would be standard practise since TNT costs almost nothing and the FDF of course has tons and tons of it available.
@@villekaikkonen5218 Yeah when real shit hits the fan then obviously the most efficient way will win instead of the "let the new guys learn some manners and make them dig for hours"
Like some people have already said, the explosions on the road are to clear a minefield, you can see in the video a scatterable mine highlighted by red spray paint. My sophisticated guess as an EOD operator in reserve would be that it is training version of PFM-1 (butterfly mine) - a mine type the Russians have used since the Afghanistan war in the 80s and also assumed to be used in Ukraine at the moment.
The Sniper rifle in 3:16 is a VALMET TAK-85, it was initially designed by a legendary gunsmith Erkki Toro back in the early 80s, it uses a barrel bedding block that makes the rifles construction very modern at the time, this rifle is truly a free floating type since the Mosin action it is built on and the barrel is hanging totally free and its not touching the stock in any part, the barrel is a 27" match barrel and the mechanic accuracy for this rifle is well under 0,5 MOA at 100 meters, the only downsides are its optics, you get a 4x36 Schmidt&Bender or a Zeiss Diavari 1,5-6 x 42 scopes for the rifle that limit the rifles potential dramatically and the 7,62x53R cartridge that uses the slow 200 grain D166 bullet, with a more modern scope and a cartridge built around a Lapua Scenar or Lock base bullets this rifle could fully compete with modern 30 caliber Sniper rifles, this rifle in terms of mechanical aspects does not have a weak spot and I consider it the most reliable and simple in its class in the world, there is no way you can break or jam a Mosin Nagant action.
It does have a very noticeable weak spots, namely the fact that the rifle weighs way more than rifle like this should, no threaded barrel so no muzzle brakes, comps or suppressors can be attached, which also makes the recoil is way harsher than a rifle like this should have and the most blatant one is the fact that you have a scope right on top of the Mosin action. Meaning that you have to load each cartridge by hand since you can't even use stripper clips and you have to be somewhat careful when loading in order to avoid rim locking the cartridges in the magazine. The most boneheaded thing about the Tkiv 85 is the fact that it wasn't converted to use detachable magazines from the get go, something that the aftermarket side figured out years a go. This fact alone makes the Tkiv 85 so obsolete that it isn't even funny, couple that with the simple fact that for some reason the scope mounts for the S&B scopes are complete ass, we pretty much couldn't use any of the rifles we had in Kosovo back in the day because they just wouldn't hold zero.
A 30cal sniper rifle still has it's uses, but at this point something like Tikka T3x TACT would be "a bit" more useful than Tkiv 85 and probably wouldn't be that expensive, so procuring a couple of hundred pieces wouldn't be that big of an investment.
I only shot it once in my time, but felt heavy as fuck too, no wonder at 7kg.
These events are refresher courses, reservists were there to get their skills updated, and they were trained by our officers and NCOs who were up to date on the latest gear and procedures. You could say the conscripts are teaching them. I don't know how much knowledge they have to pass on to conscripts, they already know the same things the reservists are there to learn.
The rifle you paused at is the Tkiv 85, which is a "sniperized" Mosin-Nagant. Still in service, but on its way out in the near future.
Yes, laying mines on frozen roads with the e-tool is a PITA. I still have nightmares more than two decades later.
That folding stock AK is the standard crew weapon. Not much you can fit in a tank for emergencies, typically a pistol or a pistol sized SMG. Or in this case, a folding stock AK. Our OPFOR has the same equipment as everyone else.
edits added as I watch.
Yeah, had a chance to fire the TKiv 85 during my service. Had a nice time firing at 500 m and 800 m targets. While the recoil isnt awful, you really feel it in your shoulder compared to firing the RK. The replacements are the Sako M23 sniper rifles.
@@CorporalCookie Sako M23 is mostly a DMR. Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua is adopted as the new high-caliber sniper rifle of the FDF as 8.6 TKIV 2000.
@@KennyT187 M23 comes as both a DMR and sniper rifle variants.
@@CorporalCookie Yeah, the sniper variant having only a more powerful scope and is probably going to be adopted mostly by the spotters of sniper squads (according to Reserviläinen magazine). The main long-range sniper rifle which replaced the 7.62 TKIV 85 is still the .338 TRG-42.
@@KennyT187 TRG-42 has been the main rifle of proper snipers for ages and TKIV 85 has served alongside it as a lesser sniper rifle, so its absolutely fine to say that the TKIV 85 that are still in service are being replaced by the new M23 rifles
7:13 it's an Ak with fold stock for the tankers. We got no replacement for those yet.
We do have some tricks for digging fox holes when the ground is frozen, mainly something we call routapanos, or frost explosive (I guess, it doesn't really have english translation). Basically it's a shaped charge that digs a hole through the ground which is then blown with some TNT to make digging easier. I haven't ever seen anyone get to do that during their training but read it from a winter warfare manual during my service. Ok well maybe not mainly because that is usually the burning passion of the conscript doing the digging but the explosive is an option.
I've used a frost explosive in army once back in 2007. it was plastic cup about size of coffee cup with cone shaped bottom |/\| like that. Add some explosive and get a hole in frosty ground.
When , I was in the army and we tried to dig a hole the ground was so hard they had to use those routapanos 3 times until we finally got through the frozen bit of the ground.
We trained to set those up in 2003. If I remember correctly we put 1 kg of granulated TNT in those plastic cups. And we ground that TNT fine using a stick. That cup was translucent plastic and the shape cone was sheet metal.
I've dig those whit my shovel and they think i'm crazy. Mine and everything else. Need some balls nothing more
The explosions on the road were to clear mines. The guy yelled "clear the mines" as they exploded.
I quess that ”viking” there is Sisu NA-110. And it’s called Nasu, Na from the model and su from sisu. Nasu is also the finnish name for piglet in winnie the pooh.
Negative, that was a Hägglunds Bv-206. FDF uses both. Viking is BvS 10.
@@vRackham ok, tought we only had nasu.
My daughter is right now in voluntery military service and she's thriving. 🥰 She absolutely loves all the practices they have.
Wouldn't be suprised if she ends up working in defence forces
Fun fact: Every bridge built in Finland have a pre-determined "weak points", to place the explosive charges if the demolition of the bridge is needed. Also, all of the guard rails at the sides of the Finnish roads work as a makeshift Claymore mine, if explosives are placed behind it.
The ground gets really frozen. Same thing in northern Sweden. And the snow can be a problem in the mountains. Really har to raise a tent in 2-3 meters of snow.
Cool to see medics, cuz i was the one. 👍👍👍
Fun fact for you, in case no one mentioned it before... "Kontio" is just another respectful translation to Finland's national animal, the brown bear. Since centuries the animal is so respected, feared, honoure that in former days people were scared to say it's proper name, "karhu", so there are many other words as well for this animal, such as Otso, Nalle, Mesikämmen (referring to bears liking honey) and some others too. Maybe in hope the bear wouldn't hear talking about it 😊.
Many of the Finnish icebreakers are named after this great animal.
But bears fear Perkele 🤷♂️
Actually, Karhu is also an euphemism for it, referring to the rough fur (karhea).
The oldest currently in use word being Otso, that is derivative of the "original" name, Oksi.
In total there are hundreds of names and euphemisms for bear in finnish language, definitely the most names we've given to anything.
It's kind of a magical thinking thing, believing that calling the true name of a being will summon it.
That's because man can't kill a bear his/hers spirit will live futher and man don't want to have angry spirit after him. Even these days when man hunt a bear we carry a little bottle of boose to give if we get one.
the word "karhu" is not even its real name. apparently some bear cultists know whats its really called but they rarely are willing to say its actual name for religious reasons.
idk how much of it is larp and how much of it is handed down information that christianity didnt wipe away. doubt its as pure as it was back when lönnrot was collecting material for kalevala in the 1800.
"What was that for?" The small explosives on the road was to clear mines underneath.
We use "frost charges" which are these 60 gram tnt charges to blow through the frost in order to ease digging in during deep frost. Small amounts of frost like in the video doesn't prevent digging in the old fashioned way... it's a pain in the ass though.
Those sharp mine holes are for ground mine "Pohjamiina" (work like copper melted bullets) and they but just under those extra tnt "telamiina" in the bottom. Pohjamiina got circuit that you can BLOW that like third vechile, not for first... (Sorry my english :)
The green combat vest can be camouflaged for winter by cutting snow camouflage into strips and tying them through the vest.
Also this exercise happened right before the the conscripts ended their service, so their training is similar and even newer compared to the reservists, and a lot more fresh.
Those combat camera guys are conscripts just as the others that are fighting knee deep in a swamp.. So don't feel too bad for them being up in the dark hours 😅 BTW the sun was up out there from 9am to 2 pm, so it might have been office hours during those shots.
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Rifle was TAK 85, Sniper rifle model 85 with Zeiss or Schmidt&Bender optics. Easily to 800 m, battalion level sniper squads.
The people making these videos (filming, editing and stuff) are conscripts. I know the guys bc they live one floor under me in the unit, nice guys and always fun to chat with. 3 young guys travelling around Finland in exercises and filming it :D I always hear their stories about these exercises and oh boy, they do sound pretty rough. Interesting to see you reacting to these videos, 10/10 video keep pushing! Love from Santahamina, FInland
The "Viking" is Finnish track-truck (telakuorma-auto, short; Teka) Sisu NA110 or NA140BT, nicknamed Nasu (name of Piglet from Winnie the Pooh in Finnish, and colloquially means piglet or pig). Nasu basically comes from "Nauha sisu" = "Ribbon or string sisu"
The explosives were combat engineers clearing a mine field. You can see the purple spray indicating a detected mine. Actual mines would of course do a bigger boom. It's safer to blow them up due to anti-tempering charges.
OPFOR is the yellow nation marked with yellow. The caution tape happens to be yellow, making it easy to mark themselves. You can also see the tanks having yellow ID marks. BLUFOR has no marks on infantry, vehicles are marked with blue tags.
Reservist only refresh their skills. Conscripts are mostly taught by other conscripts (NCOs and officer candidates), with more advanced stuff requiring professional oversight by career soldiers. Like live firing.
There's a special frost charge to make e.g. trenches on frozen ground, though one can dig a hole for mines with an E-Tool. Slowly.
The yellow caution tape is worn by those who are on the opposing side of the main excersice. Often referred keltainen valtio(the yellow country).You see yellow, you shoot!
The explosion on the road were hand planted charges. Basically it's just a charge, detonator and fuse. They're used to clear out mines, which was what they were doing.
The cylindrical hole on the ice road with the yellow box in there and the blue one going on top, is a way to trap a anti tank mine. So first you put a 20kg tnt block in the ground, then you attach either a tripwire or some other detonator to the land mine that you place on top. So then if the land mine is detonated, it has over 30kg on tnt on the explosion. Or if someone removes the mine and pulls it out from the ground it detonates the tnt under it. Very useful for destroying motorized minesweepers.
I took a part on this exercise as a conscript. It was great to see a marine react to this!
The APC (Patria XA-180) in question is called Pasi in Finnish, i.e. Panssari-Sisu (Armoured Sisu). The sisu in the name comes from the original manufacturer (Sisu Auto) who made a lot of military vehicles back in the day. Nowadays it's Patria who manufactures these, but the name stuck. Partly, I would assume, because Sisu in itself is actual word that happens to be a great description of Finnish character. There's really not any direct translation that can capture the exact meaning but grit or resilience would come pretty close.
There was a naval exercise called Frozen winds 22 at the same time with about 5000 participant's. An interesting thing is that there was a USMC element participating, they had spent 2-3 months with Nylands brigad coastal jaegers. The poor marines did look pretty cold.
2:30 We had a few reservist officers train us as conscripts, so that definitely happens. Though of course reservists can also just train as entire units. Also in some cases the conscripts have the more up-to-date information, like with different kinds of newer equipment.
At 5:03 regular AT mines (track mines) are planted at appears to be a bridge. They're a convenient way to carry a lot of explosive material, so you can definitely use them for more than just mining roads.
I'm not a combat engineer so I could be mistaken, but the other mines at 5:06 look like one of the smarter influence mines (blue) on top of an extra 20kg TNT charge (yellow). Influence mines can trigger by magnetic, seismic or other signature, and are generally smarter than the simple track mines. For example they can trigger after a certain amount of vehicles has passed over it. The 20kg extra charge just makes the boom bigger. A normal 10kg track mine is enough to blow the track of a vehicle, but this combo does more damage (the commonly used English word "antitank mine", is a little misleading in that sense). Engineers we trained with called the extra charges jumppakuutio (aprox: "gym cube"), because handling them is obviously a good exercise.
7:46 Yellow tape (and any other yellow markers) are for OpFor. You can also see some yellow tape on the recon folks' hats at the start of the video.
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The smaller blue thing is an anti-tampering device. Not a smart anti-tank mine (pohjamiina) which are larger and different looking.
@@Ruija27 Thanks. I did think it looked a little small...
You can also add a new fuse (moniherätepanos) on top of the old AT mine to make it an "influence mine". Stack all four on top of each other and you have something golden!
The cool thing is tho that the OpFor is also training and learning so the enviroment for both sides is realistically unpredictable
Not land mines, anti tank mines. And about those early mornings or late nights, not really. This time of the year it's dark all day. 😄
Those nightshots are propably taken like 16:00 pm. So not that late.
It just gets dark here in finland after 14:00 pm. Or so.
And sun rises maybe by noon 😅
depends on the landmine, but the typical ones we use are used to immobalize, if lucky disable and if really lucky destroy armour.
I ended up in the jager branch, so hauling landmines and digging holes is part of the job description.
The caution tape is for opposing force. I got yelled at once for making my opposing force marker into a plume on top of my helmet.
In my experience conscripts hate reservists. One of the big rubs among them being their lack of discipline and formality, something conscripts are required to maintain. Reservists show up unshaved, wear their uniforms like shit and confuse the hell out of conscripts because they usually rank above sergeant. (speaking as a reservist)
I love all our warriors from the North.
Respect and love from Belgium.
1:44 Most enthusiastic alert call ever :D
Small explosives on the road are used to demonstrate enemy mortar fire... reservists get some feeling of battles sounds and effects 🙂
Great video! Thx for all support from US to Ukraine! Love from Finland! ❤️🇺🇦❤️🇫🇮🇺🇸🤶
The old style sniper rifle in the beginning is "7.62 sniper rifle 85", It is based on the Mosin-Nagant rifle, using the same (in some cases antique) receivers. Old rifle for the reserve which still works well as a marksman weapon.
The rifle is the older model TAK-85 ( Tarkuus ammunta kivääri - 85 ) aka. Sharp shooter rifle - 85. They now use the TAK-2000 aka Sako TRG. The older one if Im not mistaken was ine the 7,62 X 54R where as the new one is in 338 lapua
Im finally going to army rehearsal training for the second time at May 22 to 28th 2023, cant hardly wait :)
Its been twelve years since my 1st one.
When i did my camp to become a corporal we had been marching for around 40km from 4pm to ~ 1 am trough the forest and by using small paths. When we arrived to the rest stop for the night we got told to dig posts for us, i think the deepest hole was around 50cm after 6 hours. Negative 20c° so the ground was fucked. Then the sun rose and we kept on marching :D fun times
In Finland ofc.
Fun times. 😂 Indeed.
7:22 Not 100% sure but I believe those are mine clearing charges, used to clear a path through a minefield by just blowing them up prematurely. Of course the ones dug in the ground there are inert practice mines, but if they were actual live mines, those smaller charges would detonate them. It's basically a quick and dirty way to clear a minefield when you lack the required time and/or expertise to clear and disarm all the mines individually.
I can personally guarantee digging into that permafrosted ground IS pain in the ass, it's been over 20 years and I still remember it. For some of our guys they needed to use TNT charges to get the foxholes started, as the ground was too frozen solid to dig with the E-tool. My personal problem was fist- and occasional head-sized rocks in the ground :D
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the rifle @ 03:20 looks like a Tkiv 85. Its heavily modified mosin nagant. the only part remaining is the hexagonal reciever, the bolt and the mag. shot it during my service. 12/12 silhouettes down @ 475m
At 7:20 they are training scattered mine demining on roads. Very common for Pioneers/combat engineers. As with the landminewarfare, the idea is to prevent enemy circlements and to create artillery killzones
You mentioned about the "Thick as mittens", we called them as "noukkaris", which derives from "No can do's" :D
I was part of that excercise as a conscript, lot of familiar faces
Merry Chrismast and a Happy New Year, Theo, from snowy, slipery Finland. Always fun to watch your videos, stuff from here Finland and of course some another daily topic military content.
Rifle in 3:20 is TKIV 85 and it is basicly just modernized Mosin Nagant, cool looking gun + Tank crew usually use folding AK rifles
When it come to the mines shown the yellow round ones (10kg TNT) are regular AT mines to blow of tracks of tanks and wheels on wheeled vehicles. The blue smaller one is a sensor (metal, vibrations and vehicle counter) vehicle mine that knocks through the bottom of tanks and vehicles. Both the mines can also be placed on top of a TNT block (20-40kg) to give MBT'S etc. more difficult to survive the blast. We used to set foot mines around the AT mines to make it trickier to clear the AT mines, but these foot mines have been banned with the Ottawa Treaty.
The blue one is also an anti tampering device with a switch on the top.
@@hattaramiess I was wondering why hole was so deep. "My days" u could not put a lot of dirt top of bottom mine. Yeah, nice to see that continues to develop.
Also 10 kg AT mines have the casing made entirely from glass fiber reinforced plastic. Only the trigger has some metal in it, making it difficult to clear these with induction loops. It's basically upgraded Soviet design.
Fire is not tactical but essential to survive in freezing forest. Small fire gives out your position so make it big and refresh much as possible.
Great video once again. Merry Christmas😀👍
Man! You have great videos. Pro-style made. Keep on going, thumbs up! Greetings from Finland.
jeah we did some "war" training at winter when i was in army and at winter awarage was about -15c and for couple months there is only 3-5h sun a day if you are lucky and its not snowing (today there is light for 3:44h in oulu) and jea digging a dugout at winter is just hell
Our neighbor has so many vehicles that laying landmines is a mandatory skill for almost every conscript
The conscripts and reservist train separately in these exercises since both have their own things to learn and rehearse. Usually not much interaction between the two. Can't speak for all the different branches. There might be more interaction in the command posts and stuff depending how the exercise is carried out. Those yellow and orange tapes that the tank crew had probably were marking the force to be other side than the other. Representing a mechanized force attacking along the road. First clip they were planting at mines in front of a bridge and the part with explosions on the road was clearing mines set there so the armored forces can advance.
Caution tape is an indicator for who’s on what side of the battle. It’s the people with caution tape against the people without caution tape
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The show has grown on me.
Man for man the Finns in my opinion where the most effective troops in ww2.
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Trust me, they do not have to stay up late, or wake up early to get the night shots. At this time of the year, the sun is up like from 09 to 16 :D. At these times, I think that this part of the world, is not meant for humans.
Yep. It's superhuman territory.
No wonder you got an warm well come when you visited Finland! You have presented WW II material from Winter War and given interest on a small country in Europe but in crucial geographical place in Europe. Funny thing is that all good armies need also good men and individuals who are liked. I bet you have get along with your fellow soldiers. Thank you for your videos and enthusiasm on this topic! Keep on going marine and Happy New Year!
And the reason there is some action with laying mines and other defensive stuff is because all the focus would be on slowing down enemy aggression when entering to our territory. With our population and limited resources and basically limited number of weapons and more importantly men, you can't fight back an overwhelming enemy by just throwing your forces against the advancing enemy.
3:22 is a modernized mosin 7.62 TKIV 85
when I had to dig a foxhole during the wintertime, I spent like two hours with just an iron bar (rautakanki) getting through the frozen dirt top layer - when I was finished with that part I had zero grip strength left in my hands
at 7:20, that's EOD action right there haha
3:50 we call it NASU (piglet) as in nauha-sisu (tracked sisu)
you can see on 5:06 that mine hole is made by machine, not every mine need to put by hand :)
Mosin based 7.62 TKIV 85. Together with dragunovs these will be gone soon. Wonder what will we get next.
..."late nights". It's dark at 3pm :D
Sako M23, two versions, 7.62 KIV 23 and 7.62 TKIV 23
Kontio is one of the over 200 names in Finnish language that means a bear. Not kidding.
You can't really shoot much daylight footage in winter at northern Finland. And you can't really say if it's night, morning or evening, it's dark always anyway. And in summer there's the nightless night when it's the opposite.
those small yellow charges are for mine clearing. At 7:15 you can see only the charges go off and not the mines because its training.
4:30 that thing can go through anything with enough frustration applied
Happy Christmas and the New Year of 2023 to you and yours. Take care and God Bless. 🙏🙏🙏🎄🎄🎄
7:01 the guy with the ak is a tankman and at least some tank crews used to have and still have aks. My dad had one when he was a btr driver back when those were still in us as in everyone else had an rk62 and him and his co-driver had aks with wire folders
Thing I found interesting, is that the motorcycle soldier had his/hers RK with the barrel pointing down. I was a motorcycle recon unit for the anti tank squad, we were taught do always have the barrel pointing upwards, so when, not if, but when you sink your front tire in to the mud/swamp there's no barrel obstruction. But i can see the reason, it's quicker to point your weapon towards enemy if the barrel is pointing down. Maybe different motorcycle guys have different training?
Always cool to see our guys in action.
5:10 Those are anti tank mines. 10 kilograms of TNT, designed to blow out a track and probably also give the tank crew a rude awakening. The yellow and blue ones are inert dummies obviously. And yes they are an absolute pain to lug around and bury. The explosive they sent off on the road was probably intended to clear out mines by detonating them.
"the early morning and late nights" during the end of november and early december it can be pitch black around 6 pm already 😂
The regulars usually brief the reservist and bring them up to date and take them to the shooting range before the war games/training begins. The reservist usually are in some mixed groups or then just reservist and regulars. These are usually one week long trips but if you're a officer they can be a little bit longer also (not 100 % sure about that)
That AK-47 is probably the East German MPi-KMS variant. FDF brought like 100 000 of them before there was enough RK-62's.
I had the Soviet AKS-47 and the Finnish RK-62 as service weapons. That AKS-47 fits in to the shooting slots of BMP-2. That RK-62 was the one I used in parades, ski-shooting and orienteering-shooting competitions.
Yeah most likely, also atleast 35k of them has come with tank deals from germany, and quite large amounts of some other ak variants with t54 and t55 tanks from soviet union
Good exercise Finland, cheers from Sweden!
As a finn I think the green equipment vest is our most glaring weakness in camoflage. I've never seen a winter camo vest.
I've seen white stuff added to the green west, like a ghillie suit. And sometimes they are even painted white(ish).
You could add white fabric strips to it for camo. I think it's a waste to make a white vest since it can only be used in the winter
@@JohnTavastian That's probably what we'd have to do. But it just seems a bit silly, seeing that we already have white camo clothing for winter. But, you gave me an idea!! Our helmet covers already are two sided, one side is summer camo, other is white. One just flips the fabric around for winter and flips back around come summer. Maybe those vests could work in somewhat similar fashion.
And, I've seen the vests getting hidden under large white jackets, but there goes quick access to pouches...
In winter you can use white trousers and green upper body. That works best. Forest still have green even in winter. All white is not that cool unless you need to lie down.
Love your video. Ex British army. As you can see work in Tower of London. Know as few things about history lol 😂. Carry on the good work love ur channel 🇬🇧🥃👍 happy Christmas brother 🇺🇸
Caution tapes is actually caution that those are empty and for training only. It's like the yellow "mufflers" for shooting blanks. Those are yellow for the simply reason that people are less likely to forget to add those before shooting wood head planks (that will hit the muffler and at more realistic kick) and also for not forgetting to remove those if weapons are switched for target shooting with live ammo.
Oh and yellow landmines are training landmines and will not actually explode as those have zero explosives (TNT?) in them.
if we only need temporary protection against the enemy's armor, then we just throw the mines in a designated place so that the enemy's armor cannot just run over them and drive directly to the middle of (command center) .. Behind that quickly made anti-tank minefield is still though anti-tank missiles, Claymore mines etc.. So not all mines are always dug to the ground.
At 7:19 the attacking team is clearing the mines which the defending team dug in the ground of the road. So that's the explosion.
7:08 Korean or Chinese AK copies with the swiveling stock. For tank commanders because can fit n tight spaces.
DDR MPiKMS's.
Little surprised you said you don't have experience with landmines with us (Finland) handling and putting in AT mines is like one of the most basic things that is taught and tested starting with the initial basic training period. I served in artillery, probably the furthest thing from laying mines thinking about different branches of military and we placed mines in several exercises even before ever touching a howitzer. The lesson: don't drive a tank into Finland uninvited.
The explosives on the road were used to clear it out from the butterfly mines. You can see one of them in the bottom of the screen AT 7:15 😁
Look back historically at the Winter War. The weapons have changed, but the territory don't change and tactics seem the same.