*PLEASE READ* First of all, thanks to all the followers who helped transcribe and translate this audio. This video has taken a bit longer to edit than I expected but the work behind has been extreme so I'm quite proud of it. Congratulations to the pilots and the crew of this flight. Pilot is now reported recovered after his injuries. This post will be updated with news and official reports as they develop.
These are pretty good, I've learnt quite a bit about the way vocabulary in this is used in china, but I must say, what they actually say is a lot more casual than what you've given, I dunno if this is how if that's the way it always is but, it is interesting to listen to their way of distinguishing numbers and how the call sign is mostly omitted after initial contact which i find interesting like from what i can tell he refers to the flight as 38633 after initial contact rather than the actual call sign if anyone could explain this to me, I'd be very grateful.
I did the most of the translation, and since it is the first time I did this, I apologize for any mistake in the translation. Please, comment in a peaceful, meaningful, constructive way, and refrain from talking about metric unit, flight level, Chinese and English debates and all other nonsense topic.
I know people working at Sichuan Air, they told me the only guy that can land that jet was the pilot flying. He was top gun in Chinese Air Force and was flying blind, pretty much rely only on his airmanship, amazing
@@ktf61 He did it by being experienced. In the SCMP video covering this, the pilot admitted that he was confident he could bring the plane back and land it since he'd flown this route hundreds of times.
Vince Lam make sense. He probably memorized how the terrain looks like. If it’s a new route or during a detour, it’ll be a lot harder with no instrument working.
@@Dumb-Comment don't you like to have a right to defend yourself? I rather have the right to sue than not have. Did you know that to sue doesn't mean you win?
Chinese Air Force was actually in the loop for this incident. They saw the deviation and communicated with the civil ATC. News reports say they stopped taking off of few fighter jets and assigned military airspace to civil ATC.
Pilots had no time for respond because must leave mountain area before further descent to safe altitude, sure they had full hands. Probably had big noise in cocpit too.
THE PICTURE I SAW OF THE COCKPIT SHOWED IT WAS PARTIALLY DESTROYED BY THE QUICK DECOMPRESSION. PILOT A REAL HERO AND AS MENTIONED THE NOISE MUST HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS.
I knew you will post a video about this astonishing incident!!! As a Chinese, news about this are all over our social media, but none of articles I read reveals the ATC radio activity. That's one of the reasons I followed your channel. Thanks for sharing! BTW, at 0:58, I would translate it to a cracked windshield rather than broken.
Pilot who landed plane after co-pilot was 'sucked halfway' out cockpit window awarded $777G www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/06/10/pilot-who-landed-plane-after-co-pilot-was-sucked-halfway-out-cockpit-window-awarded-777k.amp.html
I am from Hong Kong and it is my first time to hear Chinese ATC recordings, it is interesting to note that some of the numbers pronunciation are changed probably to avoid mishearing. For example instead of speaking "zero" normally, it was changed to "hole", I guess that is because the number 0 looks like a hole. Number 7 was changed too but I could not make what was that supposed to be. Great job the person who translated it, and also to the pilots of course!
I suspect when the wind screen finally broke out all hell broke out in that cockpit. I can’t images the noise, getting plastered by 200+wind initially and then 100+ after he slows down. The captain (left seater) at least had his wind screen to hide behind. I wonder if they went on oxygen as soon as they noticed the cracks (prior to total failure). I know I would have! These pilots did a heck of a job maintaining control of this flight.
The captain said he didn't manage to put on the oxygen mask because of the strong wind, later in an interview. I guess the air pressure caused by the wind brought enough oxygen, so the captain didn't go disabled.
The wind won't actually go full stream in to the cockpit because of the design of the nose. Still must've been a real mountain goat to have suddenly been sucked all air out of your lungs at 30000 feet!! I imagine that a few thousand feet higher the pilots would just have been incapacitated.
According to the interview, after windshield cracked, FO touched the glass first and found that the crack was on the inner layer. Lucky for him to have the seat belt fastened in the seconds later, before the windshield broked.
Someone had recommend this movie on twitter a week ago. I'm shocked cuz it was said this is from a true story. Then I watched that movie. Seriously how it can be. Im so thanked to the pilots and the others crew that had save 119 people life.
There is even a similar story many years ago from British Airways 5390, the windshield is also broken midair but it was the captain’s side. The FO also landed the plane safely without casualties. The two stories are identical, but BA5390 are determined by inadequate maintenance while 3U 8633’s cause still remains unknown
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. This is a perfect example of how this is utilized and this video should be linked to aviation courses everywhere.
7700 and predictable motions from radar echo. I guess they just moved everyone out of the way and had allt landning lights and instrument guidance active.
oh this incident was on our news! Greetings from China :D these pilots were called heroes afterwards for landing a plane and saving so many lives with terrible conditions
There are multiple airborne crews, both on Chengdu ATC channel and 121.5, trying to establish contact with 8633. There should be another recording out there when the backup pilot yelled Mayday without being able to hear.
Judging by that damage to that panel, it’s safe to say there was some pretty significant damage inside that cockpit. Possibility that they may have lost radio communication equipment?
I really want to know how he managed to find his way back with dead flight deck panels. He probably only have a magnetic compass and no map or anything.
@@ktf61 he said in an interview he flew the route for more than 100 times,so he was very confident he could bring back the plane safely. And he lost comms with the ATC right after the windshield shattered.
They were able to call but they were not able to hear. There was a second part of audio where the second officer was calling Mayday (after being out of reach for ~30 mins) and stating their plans to descend and land, while the captain focused on controlling the plane.
What a hero! I have seen the new movie in China. It’s real authentic und spectacular. The pilot are very professional and a hero. Not every body can land a damaged Plan like him! 👍
Amazing pilot! It remembers the British airways case some years ago. Does anybody knows what plane had this accident? The airline stated that the windshield was new and no maintenance have ever been carried on the component.
Do you mean this incident: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390 ? Portrait in this documentary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayday_(Canadian_TV_series) Season 2, Episode 1 "Blowout" -> english dub doesnt seem to be on YT - sorry.
Nice job! One thing he was blown out not sucked. Cabin pressure inside meant air flow went out the front window literally thrusting him out window. Same with SWA1380 passenger sadly killed. She was blown out passenger window by pressure inside cabin. You guys do fab work!
That's debatable. Some people see it as "the difference of pressure pushes you out from the inside" and some others as "the difference of pressure sucks you out from the outside". Same with principles of flight and how an aircraft flies and both are correct. The plane is both pushed up and sucked up by lift.
Love your guys vids. I checked with a long time deep sea diver friend regarding air pressure. Same in the sky as under the water. Air pressure at 32,000 ft on a standard day 1013mb / 10C is 5.2 psi or 0.3516 atmostphere (14.8 psi) Cabin pressure inside Airbus A319 is 7.9psi. Even with the airspeed at 300kts - though there are aerodynamics low pressure areas around cockpit - means the greater pressure inside cabin exiting the small area of the cockpit window, would mean a very high rate of air flowing out from the plane. Very high. Bernoulli's Principle among other calculations too.
Yeah but BA5390 was an old 1-11, this is a 6.8 year old Airbus, is shouldn't need its windscreen replaced after such a short time , it was a very young plane when compared to the BA flight, which would suggest it's either manufacturing errors or external damage caused it rather than faulty maintenance.
i also have watched that episode too.. they said that the cause of the incident was the incorrect size of bolt use for the windscreen, causing it to torn off in mid flight. this time, the windshield itself cracked and the pilot notice it (my opinion) . from various source, i found that a320 family windshield is made from 3 layers. unless you throw a big rock or hail at 700 km/h, what could break all 3 windshield layers? the cabin pressure or something else? -sorry for my bad english-
there are heater lines inside of the windshield, running all the time to keep the windshield fog and frost free. if the heater lines shorted, it will generate a lot of heat, which make the glass crack. check Mentour Pilot's video for more
According to official reports from CAAC, the windshield heating unit had a short circuit and wet arcing inside due to moisture entering the bad weather-proof sealing. The temperature hit at least 1069 degrees Celsius since there is visible molten copper in the debris. The temperature gradient resulted in the glass cracking.
The only critique I have is for the center controller not asking them to ident if they could hear him way earlier instead of attempting to call them fifty times. Doesn't matter either way as it looks like all their nav and radio gear was wiped out, but still. Must have been a hell of a time doing a natural, unassisted landing in a 319. Great piloting all around.
I was under the impression all ATC comms had to be in English even internationally. Is that different in some places? Genuinely want to know, not saying it is bad. In fact communication in their native language in an emergency probably helped the situation.
English actually is a very difficult and different language for Chinese to learn. Most Chinese students spent more than 10 years in school to learn English but still speak very bad English. And before 2010, many schools in China even does not have enough qualified English teachers. 99% English teacher we used to have have never been to any English speaking countries and speak English with various kinds of strong accents... Even native speakers can’t understand... so it’s not realistic to ask all the Chinese pilots to communicate in English in air.
this was not an international flight, though... it was domestic chinese. the only international in the recording was siberian, and they indeed used english.
RVSM has nothing to do with meters or feet, it's used all over the world. China just happens to implement RVSM in meters instead of feet like in the US and Europe.
Just realized at 39 seconds it says they are in meters. I missed that the first time since it was up for such a short period. But putting an apostrophe after a number means "feet" at least in the US. I would have expected an "m" instead in this case.
Watched the movie "The Captain" which is heavily based on this flight, was great and decided to come here to watch the actual radio communication. The movie though was overly dramatic about the situation especially to aviation enthusiast like me. However to non aviation enthusiast it would most likely scare you to not even fly at all but to be honest is just a movie and I still enjoyed it.
to be fair, while some of the people got on the next flight to tibet, a lot of them stopped flying for a long time afterwards (watched some random chinese talk show with a few of them)
VASAviation - i see that, but in the subtitles you have ' after the 8400. That means feet. So just put 8400 or 8400m. Your videos are usually accurate, just trying to keep them that way.
Noob question: Did they ever manage to make any contact with the pilots? If the pilots are unable to respond, how do they know where and when to land safely?
As soon as you set squawk 7600, they know you are radioless. There are certain procedures for airplanes suffering radio failure and ATC will do their work and get everybody out of your way so that you can land safely.
Last night, a SAUDIA A330 heading from Madinah to Dhaka diverted to Jeddah due to the nose gear failing . It landed safely with the nose gear retracted after two low passes. You should try and get the recordings.
An aircraft can fly with a cracked cockpit window, since it has at least three layers, and any of those layers, minus the one outmost layer, are specified to be able to withstand the full pressure of the cabin.
just FYI, I'm pretty sure they don't use FL and they always uses meter so for "FL101" in the script should translate to 10100 meter which is roughly FL330
I understand that but they don't use "FL" at all ! Please see the text in wiki "The flight levels below apply to People's Republic of China, not including Hong Kong. To distinguish flight levels in feet, flight levels are read without "flight level", e.g. "one two thousand six hundred metres" or in Chinese "幺两六" or "幺万两千六百米" for 12,600m. RVSM implement in China at 1600 UTC 21 Nov 2007. The aircraft fly in feet according to the table below will have differences between the metric readout of the onboard avionics and ATC cleared flight level, however the differences will never be more than 30 metres." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
I've noticed that the translations are sometimes altered or shortened for clarity. Sometimes information may be added (like FL) to make it clear to the rest of us what is being said. I wouldn't expect these to be a literal translation.
FL stands for Flight Level which represents hundreds of whatever altitude unit you use. For example, FL300 stands for 30,000 feet or 30,000 meters. FL101 stands for 10,100 feet or 10,100 meters. All my translators transcribed it as "Flight Level xxx" which is - as I state at 0:35 - in meters.
@@VASAviation The radio says "西部6271,右偏3海里", which literally means "Western 6271, 3 nautical miles to the right". I got knots and nautical miles wrong. But it is not (imperial) miles.
Doing two and three is not mandatory. ATC will manage to take everyone out of your way. Number one is mandatory. You better have control of your aircraft to fly and get it down safely.
Not an interesting comment, just me being pedantic. But you are not "sucked out" of an air plane (or anything else with a pressure). You are blown out. There isn't a major suction outside, waiting to suck things out of cars, houses, and what not. There is just pressure. If the pressure outside is considerably lower than inside a vessel (say, a balloon), we say that the vessel exploded, not was sucked to pieces. Suction does happen. More so with the old box-tv-sets. They didn't ex-plode though, they would however im-plode. Like I said, pedantic. :P
No, suction is an active exertion of force. It is something you do to actively create a force of low pressure that sucks. I.e. space doesn't... suck. suction noun suc·tion | \ ˈsək-shən \ 1 : the act or process of sucking 2a : the act or process of exerting a force upon a solid, liquid, or gaseous body by reason of reduced air pressure over part of its surface b : force so exerted www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suction Btw, philosophy, not aviation. ;) Just fascinated. Always been since I was... 7 - and went on a flight trip on my own. Back then pilots had an open cabin.
I do know how to read a map though (scouts, later infantry, so I know my alpha bravo charlie as well), I know about runway heading, so if one end is 18, then the other is 36, and so on. It's a bit more difficult when it comes to taxiways, there have been airfields with just a single airstrip and what seemed like 3 or 4 taxiways, still, what would logically be "alfa", was "golf", so... Hmmm... Have not figured out the reasoning there yet. I know about line up and wait, vs taxi. I know what a runway incursion is. Some I've learnt from watching youtube videoes, some from that "Mayday mayday"-series (aka "aircrash investigations", I think?). Though, they're more annoying to watch than helpful. So... I understand most of what's going on in the conversations. But that's why I asked about the map; not my native field of expertise. Thank you for all your help! :)
I am a pilot and we study lift as a both push from the ground to the air and pull from the air (suction). Same happens with a decompression. You can treat it like you've been pushed out of the aircraft or you've been sucked out of the aircraft. Air is a liquid. Difference in pressures makes lower pressure particles want to take higher pressure particles = Suction.
I know you're a pilot. You have several video's on your flights. But this statement worries me. Not as in, that you have a pilot certificate, work hard, and earn what is justly yours. Well done! :) But, now you make it personal. On your behalf. I never ment it personally. I never meant to say, "haha, I am better than V-Aviation". I meant it as, "I am pedantic, this is a small thing I noticed". You know, like people point out, "oh, at so and so, it's not... instead, he's saying...". That's what I meant. I love the work that you do - for free even! I had and have no intentions of stepping on your toes. I'll gladly argue my case, and listen to you argue yours. As long as it's not personal.
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What time they said that was sucked out? How can anyone with seat belt be sucked out?
Fábio Ricardo de Barros the pilot has two parts of seat belt,one for breast,one for legs.this pilot just tied the leg one .you can easily find the pilot was sucked out from another video.
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First of all, thanks to all the followers who helped transcribe and translate this audio. This video has taken a bit longer to edit than I expected but the work behind has been extreme so I'm quite proud of it.
Congratulations to the pilots and the crew of this flight. Pilot is now reported recovered after his injuries. This post will be updated with news and official reports as they develop.
You guys should've posted saying you need translators. I'd be happy to help. :)
Same here
Would this not be confusing for English flights going into China or does that not happen
These are pretty good, I've learnt quite a bit about the way vocabulary in this is used in china, but I must say, what they actually say is a lot more casual than what you've given, I dunno if this is how if that's the way it always is but, it is interesting to listen to their way of distinguishing numbers and how the call sign is mostly omitted after initial contact which i find interesting like from what i can tell he refers to the flight as 38633 after initial contact rather than the actual call sign if anyone could explain this to me, I'd be very grateful.
KarlosBricks No they are actually saying Sichuan 8633 but not pronouncing it very clearly
I did the most of the translation, and since it is the first time I did this, I apologize for any mistake in the translation.
Please, comment in a peaceful, meaningful, constructive way, and refrain from talking about metric unit, flight level, Chinese and English debates and all other nonsense topic.
No need to apologize. Thanks for your help!
Good job !
Thankyou for all your work! ☺️🙌💖
thx!
You did a good job! Thanks!
I know people working at Sichuan Air, they told me the only guy that can land that jet was the pilot flying. He was top gun in Chinese Air Force and was flying blind, pretty much rely only on his airmanship, amazing
yepp, and he said he has flown that exact route many times before
he kept awarness in that condition, cannot even keep the eyes open. Real hero!
Nice work. I can't imagine how loud it must have been in that cockpit after the window broke.
What I really want to know is, how he managed to find his way back to the airport with the whole panel dead and no comm with ATC. That's just insane.
@@ktf61 He did it by being experienced. In the SCMP video covering this, the pilot admitted that he was confident he could bring the plane back and land it since he'd flown this route hundreds of times.
Vince Lam make sense. He probably memorized how the terrain looks like. If it’s a new route or during a detour, it’ll be a lot harder with no instrument working.
@@ktf61 Definitely. Right person at the right time for the job.
@@ktf61 that captain used to drive bomber while he was in the PLA Air force.
about 2:00 when the tower guy start telling other flight to climb up is actually creating space for 8633, what a genius!
Great work
Crew should receive a medal. No deaths, minor injuries. Perfectly executed!
The captain was rewarded with 5 million RMB.
CivilAviation1 5 million CNY =750K dollars $$
@@mildredquilas4095 He really deserve it.
The captain is recognized as one of our national heroes. Thank all crews for saving so many lives.
Michael Wei I wonder if it was the heroic Captain Wei Tu Lo?
Joseph Dale real mature of you.
In the west, some fat ladied could have sued the captain for a bumpy ride XD
Dumb Comment i mean, your probably not wrong, some people think light turbulence is a life or death situation...
@@Dumb-Comment don't you like to have a right to defend yourself? I rather have the right to sue than not have. Did you know that to sue doesn't mean you win?
Chengdu ATC totally professional. The local Kennedy Steve.
can only imagine what was going through his head when they stopped responding though...
Marvin Shirgar i know right? Scariest thing that can happen to an atc.
especially given the modern threats we are faced with these days..
Chinese Air Force was actually in the loop for this incident. They saw the deviation and communicated with the civil ATC. News reports say they stopped taking off of few fighter jets and assigned military airspace to civil ATC.
@@marvinshirgar4188 7700
It is good to hear real situations in another language.
Эд Cárdenas 谢谢大家!中国人民与世界同在
thankyou
Pilots had no time for respond because must leave mountain area before further descent to safe altitude, sure they had full hands. Probably had big noise in cocpit too.
THE PICTURE I SAW OF THE COCKPIT SHOWED IT WAS PARTIALLY DESTROYED BY THE QUICK DECOMPRESSION. PILOT A REAL HERO AND AS MENTIONED THE NOISE MUST HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS.
Thankfully it's not that loud in here so no need to shout... :)
LOL
It was way to loud in cockpit for atc to hear anything from pilots, thats why there are no responses, nothing to do with "full hands"
Is it me or was the radio laying on the dash?
This is truly mission impossible, I do proud of this incredible pilot! He saves 100more lives.
I knew you will post a video about this astonishing incident!!!
As a Chinese, news about this are all over our social media, but none of articles I read reveals the ATC radio activity. That's one of the reasons I followed your channel. Thanks for sharing!
BTW, at 0:58, I would translate it to a cracked windshield rather than broken.
Pilot who landed plane after co-pilot was 'sucked halfway' out cockpit window awarded $777G www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/06/10/pilot-who-landed-plane-after-co-pilot-was-sucked-halfway-out-cockpit-window-awarded-777k.amp.html
@@jiayilei9256 the link does not work 😥
fabulousprofound That happens. Try to Google the keywords I put up there.
Do you guys have access to UA-cam unrestriced ?
@@Buggyi94 Nope, they are either living abroad or are part of the government division that needs full access to the internet.
I am from Hong Kong and it is my first time to hear Chinese ATC recordings, it is interesting to note that some of the numbers pronunciation are changed probably to avoid mishearing. For example instead of speaking "zero" normally, it was changed to "hole", I guess that is because the number 0 looks like a hole. Number 7 was changed too but I could not make what was that supposed to be.
Great job the person who translated it, and also to the pilots of course!
Duncan Hui 7 is changed to “拐” or “turn” because there is a sharp turn in number 7
The pattern is from narrow to wide open for mouth opening.
Duncan Hui 数字发音不一样就是为了更好的识别,比如中文的七和一,不小心就会混淆。
0:洞,1:妖,7:拐。
@@JL-ms1xk 幺
They use “meters” instead of “feet” in China FIR, so it’s 8400 meters, 7800 meters,etc.
Yeah
4:49 its a photo of their cabine, i suppose? if that so, they are good pilots
cheers for them
Sure!
the incident was happened above 8400 meters, above FL270. it was way harder than British 5390. Miracle.
And it is above a mountain range where FL180 is barely the safe operating zone, and the usual FL100 procedure will guarantee you hitting a mountain.
看完《中国机长》过来找的纪录片看,很震撼,向英雄机长和机组人员地面人员致敬!
我有看《中国机长》
yinquan zhao 我没有 :
兄弟你好歹换个繁体啊
你该用英文写这条评论,否责他看不懂。
不过,我同意你的说法。
@@xiaofengzhang367 thanks for your reply
Wow... that is impressive and a credit to the pilots and their training to maintain control and don their masks during all the confusion...
I suspect when the wind screen finally broke out all hell broke out in that cockpit. I can’t images the noise, getting plastered by 200+wind initially and then 100+ after he slows down. The captain (left seater) at least had his wind screen to hide behind. I wonder if they went on oxygen as soon as they noticed the cracks (prior to total failure). I know I would have!
These pilots did a heck of a job maintaining control of this flight.
The captain said he didn't manage to put on the oxygen mask because of the strong wind, later in an interview. I guess the air pressure caused by the wind brought enough oxygen, so the captain didn't go disabled.
Good thing the copilot had his seatbelt on too.
The wind won't actually go full stream in to the cockpit because of the design of the nose. Still must've been a real mountain goat to have suddenly been sucked all air out of your lungs at 30000 feet!! I imagine that a few thousand feet higher the pilots would just have been incapacitated.
According to the interview, after windshield cracked, FO touched the glass first and found that the crack was on the inner layer. Lucky for him to have the seat belt fastened in the seconds later, before the windshield broked.
Someone had recommend this movie on twitter a week ago. I'm shocked cuz it was said this is from a true story. Then I watched that movie. Seriously how it can be. Im so thanked to the pilots and the others crew that had save 119 people life.
Good movie ! saya baru je tengok
There is even a similar story many years ago from British Airways 5390, the windshield is also broken midair but it was the captain’s side. The FO also landed the plane safely without casualties. The two stories are identical, but BA5390 are determined by inadequate maintenance while 3U 8633’s cause still remains unknown
The pilot was a retired fighter jet pilot, those experiences sure gave him some advantage.
Interesting thing is the voice recording is very crisp and clear. Though I cannot understand the Chinese... Thanks for the translation!
Decro Byron I honestly thought it would be choppy because of the missing window.
Well the call from the plane didn't come through after the window broke. I was only cracked at the time it was reported (minor translation problem)
Decro Byron LOL!
OMG... Smart Pilot! I can't imagine how if i was a passenger on that airplane. Thanks God they're alive 🙏
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. This is a perfect example of how this is utilized and this video should be linked to aviation courses everywhere.
Great video once again! It must have been quite stressful for the ATC as well, not getting any response for quite a while
7700 and predictable motions from radar echo. I guess they just moved everyone out of the way and had allt landning lights and instrument guidance active.
oh this incident was on our news! Greetings from China :D these pilots were called heroes afterwards for landing a plane and saving so many lives with terrible conditions
There are multiple airborne crews, both on Chengdu ATC channel and 121.5, trying to establish contact with 8633. There should be another recording out there when the backup pilot yelled Mayday without being able to hear.
Kudos to the crew and to VASAviation for sharing the comm.👍
Judging by that damage to that panel, it’s safe to say there was some pretty significant damage inside that cockpit. Possibility that they may have lost radio communication equipment?
No, wind too loud, pilot panicked, as post interview says
yeah he had to flight that thing back aint no time to get back on the radio
I really want to know how he managed to find his way back with dead flight deck panels. He probably only have a magnetic compass and no map or anything.
@@ktf61 he said in an interview he flew the route for more than 100 times,so he was very confident he could bring back the plane safely. And he lost comms with the ATC right after the windshield shattered.
They were able to call but they were not able to hear. There was a second part of audio where the second officer was calling Mayday (after being out of reach for ~30 mins) and stating their plans to descend and land, while the captain focused on controlling the plane.
Thank you for posting this video. The captain is a hero!
Thanks for watching!
I watched this live on FlightRadar24 once the pilot squawked 7700
Wow, how terrifying for the pilots. I’m glad they landed safely.
What a hero! I have seen the new movie in China. It’s real authentic und spectacular. The pilot are very professional and a hero. Not every body can land a damaged Plan like him! 👍
Amazing pilot! It remembers the British airways case some years ago. Does anybody knows what plane had this accident? The airline stated that the windshield was new and no maintenance have ever been carried on the component.
Check Wiki and you will find out it was an Airbus A319 in a second, much more efficient than asking in comment.
Do you mean this incident: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390 ?
Portrait in this documentary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayday_(Canadian_TV_series)
Season 2, Episode 1 "Blowout" -> english dub doesnt seem to be on YT - sorry.
Clicked on this and the ad I got was for "Adrift" so the first thing that happened was a woman screamed "OH GOD!" Perfect serendipity. xD
Just the watch The Captain.. And it was real all the silence from that airplane. The captain is very good one. Thank you for saving lifes..
向机组和地面致敬
Nice job!
One thing he was blown out not sucked. Cabin pressure inside meant air flow went out the front window literally thrusting him out window.
Same with SWA1380 passenger sadly killed. She was blown out passenger window by pressure inside cabin.
You guys do fab work!
That's debatable. Some people see it as "the difference of pressure pushes you out from the inside" and some others as "the difference of pressure sucks you out from the outside". Same with principles of flight and how an aircraft flies and both are correct. The plane is both pushed up and sucked up by lift.
Love your guys vids.
I checked with a long time deep sea diver friend regarding air pressure. Same in the sky as under the water.
Air pressure at 32,000 ft on a standard day 1013mb / 10C is 5.2 psi or 0.3516 atmostphere (14.8 psi)
Cabin pressure inside Airbus A319 is 7.9psi.
Even with the airspeed at 300kts - though there are aerodynamics low pressure areas around cockpit - means the greater pressure inside cabin exiting the small area of the cockpit window, would mean a very high rate of air flowing out from the plane. Very high.
Bernoulli's Principle among other calculations too.
@@VASAviation you guys are funny push pull who cares the end result is the same the person is no longer there!!!!!!!
非常厉害的机组!! Been waiting for VASAviation to upload this one.
Here you go! :)
VASAviation - he said 'very professional crew'.... Just so u know what he said!
Can we hear the saudia a330 200 (TC-OCH) hydraulic failure with no gear landing in Jeddah. SV3818
sounds like BA5390, but this time because of cracked window. i'm wondering what cause that thick windshield glass to break..
Yeah but BA5390 was an old 1-11, this is a 6.8 year old Airbus, is shouldn't need its windscreen replaced after such a short time , it was a very young plane when compared to the BA flight, which would suggest it's either manufacturing errors or external damage caused it rather than faulty maintenance.
i also have watched that episode too.. they said that the cause of the incident was the incorrect size of bolt use for the windscreen, causing it to torn off in mid flight. this time, the windshield itself cracked and the pilot notice it (my opinion) . from various source, i found that a320 family windshield is made from 3 layers. unless you throw a big rock or hail at 700 km/h, what could break all 3 windshield layers? the cabin pressure or something else? -sorry for my bad english-
there are heater lines inside of the windshield, running all the time to keep the windshield fog and frost free.
if the heater lines shorted, it will generate a lot of heat, which make the glass crack.
check Mentour Pilot's video for more
* * thank you !
According to official reports from CAAC, the windshield heating unit had a short circuit and wet arcing inside due to moisture entering the bad weather-proof sealing. The temperature hit at least 1069 degrees Celsius since there is visible molten copper in the debris. The temperature gradient resulted in the glass cracking.
This video was finally released!
The only critique I have is for the center controller not asking them to ident if they could hear him way earlier instead of attempting to call them fifty times. Doesn't matter either way as it looks like all their nav and radio gear was wiped out, but still. Must have been a hell of a time doing a natural, unassisted landing in a 319. Great piloting all around.
i didnt know this is a true story. i just finished watching the captain based on this story. kudos to all the staffs and captain
Where one can watch it?
@@rilmar2137 hi movies
来自🇲🇾的我 向伟大的机长、所有机组人员 、地面人员致敬!🙏 我是看了电影《中国机长》才知晓这件事的2!
Increible como has conseguido el audio! muy buen trabajo!!
China made a film based on this story, called 中国机长The captain. Thank Hero crew!
How can i look for this film?
Jeez, it's awesome to hear Chinese here. XD
致敬机组!
Ey, btw, who's reminded of BA5390?
Everyone.
History is just repeating itself
I was under the impression all ATC comms had to be in English even internationally. Is that different in some places? Genuinely want to know, not saying it is bad. In fact communication in their native language in an emergency probably helped the situation.
There are several approved and official languages that can be used. Chinese, Spanish, French or Portuguese are some of those.
English actually is a very difficult and different language for Chinese to learn. Most Chinese students spent more than 10 years in school to learn English but still speak very bad English. And before 2010, many schools in China even does not have enough qualified English teachers. 99% English teacher we used to have have never been to any English speaking countries and speak English with various kinds of strong accents... Even native speakers can’t understand... so it’s not realistic to ask all the Chinese pilots to communicate in English in air.
this was not an international flight, though... it was domestic chinese. the only international in the recording was siberian, and they indeed used english.
Smart pilots, nice teamwork
Weren't all of those " 8400' " and such calls actually in meters, based on the plot at the bottom?
In China is using "RVSM", that mean they are using "meter" for altitude, 8400m around FL276
RVSM has nothing to do with meters or feet, it's used all over the world. China just happens to implement RVSM in meters instead of feet like in the US and Europe.
Just realized at 39 seconds it says they are in meters. I missed that the first time since it was up for such a short period. But putting an apostrophe after a number means "feet" at least in the US. I would have expected an "m" instead in this case.
The IMPORTANT part of the video was edited to avoid these comments. I see it didn't work.
Check out the Movie of this its called "The Captain" pretty accurate
4:58 the FCU was ripped off too
Watched the movie "The Captain" which is heavily based on this flight, was great and decided to come here to watch the actual radio communication. The movie though was overly dramatic about the situation especially to aviation enthusiast like me. However to non aviation enthusiast it would most likely scare you to not even fly at all but to be honest is just a movie and I still enjoyed it.
to be fair, while some of the people got on the next flight to tibet, a lot of them stopped flying for a long time afterwards (watched some random chinese talk show with a few of them)
badass cabin crew, amazing
The altitudes given are not feet, they are meters. The first descent is 8400 meters not feet. They are over extremely high terrain there.
Watch 0:35
VASAviation - i see that, but in the subtitles you have ' after the 8400. That means feet. So just put 8400 or 8400m. Your videos are usually accurate, just trying to keep them that way.
Wow the atc has to change from chinese to english for foreign flights lol
everything is upside down yes, and I
remember in JAL123 accident the atc also had to switch language.
The pilot wasn't suck at all....He kept his cool....
True heroes.
perfect translation Thanks for sharing
Oh, what a man.
The part where this flight's windshear got broken, The sound I will never forget in this recording
Noob question: Did they ever manage to make any contact with the pilots? If the pilots are unable to respond, how do they know where and when to land safely?
The have guidances to the airport. The ATC just has to take other airplanes out of their way.
Waiting for all the "Speak English" comments to begin...
southpakrules is it just international flights that are meant to use flight English? I have no idea.
Clinton Roy yes it is
It is, but check these comments re english ua-cam.com/video/V0ZSpWJlVXU/v-deo.html
They defenitely should!
Yes...for us youtubers convenience.
Chinese "Aeroflot": Sichuan Airlines!
That would’ve have been CAAC
I heard that this pilot used to fly fighters before...
That's correct
Actually he flew a bomber, but IDM.
Is this.. chinese take out. Or delivery?
So how does a radioless plane make sure it's safe to land? Is there another way to communicate with ATC?
As soon as you set squawk 7600, they know you are radioless. There are certain procedures for airplanes suffering radio failure and ATC will do their work and get everybody out of your way so that you can land safely.
VASAviation - Acutally they sent 7700 instead
Congratulation for the safety
英雄机长,令人敬佩
Last night, a SAUDIA A330 heading from Madinah to Dhaka diverted to Jeddah due to the nose gear failing . It landed safely with the nose gear retracted after two low passes. You should try and get the recordings.
Should I?
VASAviation - that would be great
review once again...due to the accident in South Korea yesterday
2:02 United Eagle pilot casually talking in Chinese
No FO, No comms, no MCP Jesus, great job to the flight crew
no mayday call?
It's interesting to compare the auto-translated subtitle and human translated one.
Pilot has to ask ATC for descend permission when a cockpit window cracks??
at that moment it was only cracked, it totally broke a bit later (when he stopped responding to the calls)
An aircraft can fly with a cracked cockpit window, since it has at least three layers, and any of those layers, minus the one outmost layer, are specified to be able to withstand the full pressure of the cabin.
just FYI, I'm pretty sure they don't use FL and they always uses meter so for "FL101" in the script should translate to 10100 meter which is roughly FL330
Didn't you read the IMPORTANT intro message?
The intro text has meters written first
I understand that but they don't use "FL" at all ! Please see the text in wiki "The flight levels below apply to People's Republic of China, not including Hong Kong. To distinguish flight levels in feet, flight levels are read without "flight level", e.g. "one two thousand six hundred metres" or in Chinese "幺两六" or "幺万两千六百米" for 12,600m. RVSM implement in China at 1600 UTC 21 Nov 2007. The aircraft fly in feet according to the table below will have differences between the metric readout of the onboard avionics and ATC cleared flight level, however the differences will never be more than 30 metres."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
I've noticed that the translations are sometimes altered or shortened for clarity. Sometimes information may be added (like FL) to make it clear to the rest of us what is being said. I wouldn't expect these to be a literal translation.
FL stands for Flight Level which represents hundreds of whatever altitude unit you use. For example, FL300 stands for 30,000 feet or 30,000 meters. FL101 stands for 10,100 feet or 10,100 meters. All my translators transcribed it as "Flight Level xxx" which is - as I state at 0:35 - in meters.
4:22, it should be -knots- nautical miles, not miles.
Negative
@@VASAviation The radio says "西部6271,右偏3海里", which literally means "Western 6271, 3 nautical miles to the right". I got knots and nautical miles wrong. But it is not (imperial) miles.
Did the first officer recover?
Yes, all the crew and pilots return to sky after about 6 month recovery & training.
Hello, thank you for that. can you tell me the source of your atc audio?
I have a question
You can get the audio that lacks?
dang. as a chinese, i dont understand their mandarin at all. accent and all the stuff. nice work to vas and people who helped to translate.
I think you are having problems understanding the numbers. They use different pronunciation than standard Mandarin.
yup. and the speed. i heard this kind of terminology on vatsim taiwan before. then i just gave up and used english instead
么 (Yao) for 1
洞 (Dong) for 0
拐 (Guai) for 7
兩 (Liang) for 2
高度 (Gao du) for FL (in 100meters)
上 (Shang) for Climb
下 (Xia) for Descend
sportbike lover this is totally standard mandarin, not a dialect
At least his IPad was ok.
No,he said in an interview his iPad was sucked out of the plane.
May i know why the windshield broken?
Right windshield seal silicone damaged and the external moisture seeps in and remains at the bottom edge of the windshield.
Priorities: #1 Aviate, #2 Navigate, #3 Communicate... Looks like communications failed or they were too busy with #1 & #2 to do #3.
Doing two and three is not mandatory. ATC will manage to take everyone out of your way. Number one is mandatory. You better have control of your aircraft to fly and get it down safely.
What's going on with my youtube recommendation
It seems like they pilots won’t respond:
1: pilot sucked out halfway
2: Sichuan A319 entered a severe storm
All altitudes are in meter in civil aviation in China mainland airspace!
Nice work on translation, but one more thing need to correct is: in China, all altitude in air traffic control are in meters, not feet.
So?
The sound at 1:07 is possibly an oxygen mask
No way. Volume is reduced myself by a 90%... it was extremely noisy.
If you are curious, you can search around the original posting of the recording in Chinese. It was huge noise...
Sichuan 8633 Was an A319-100
Can you do the Eintracht Frankfurt flight back to Frankfurt from Berlin after winning German cup?
Not an interesting comment, just me being pedantic.
But you are not "sucked out" of an air plane (or anything else with a pressure). You are blown out. There isn't a major suction outside, waiting to suck things out of cars, houses, and what not. There is just pressure. If the pressure outside is considerably lower than inside a vessel (say, a balloon), we say that the vessel exploded, not was sucked to pieces. Suction does happen. More so with the old box-tv-sets. They didn't ex-plode though, they would however im-plode.
Like I said, pedantic. :P
I don't know what kind of studies you have related to aviation but lower pressure sucks higher pressure. Just saying.
No, suction is an active exertion of force. It is something you do to actively create a force of low pressure that sucks. I.e. space doesn't... suck.
suction noun
suc·tion | \ ˈsək-shən \
1 : the act or process of sucking
2a : the act or process of exerting a force upon a solid, liquid, or gaseous body by reason of reduced air pressure over part of its surface
b : force so exerted
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suction
Btw, philosophy, not aviation. ;) Just fascinated. Always been since I was... 7 - and went on a flight trip on my own. Back then pilots had an open cabin.
I do know how to read a map though (scouts, later infantry, so I know my alpha bravo charlie as well), I know about runway heading, so if one end is 18, then the other is 36, and so on. It's a bit more difficult when it comes to taxiways, there have been airfields with just a single airstrip and what seemed like 3 or 4 taxiways, still, what would logically be "alfa", was "golf", so... Hmmm... Have not figured out the reasoning there yet. I know about line up and wait, vs taxi. I know what a runway incursion is. Some I've learnt from watching youtube videoes, some from that "Mayday mayday"-series (aka "aircrash investigations", I think?). Though, they're more annoying to watch than helpful. So... I understand most of what's going on in the conversations. But that's why I asked about the map; not my native field of expertise.
Thank you for all your help! :)
I am a pilot and we study lift as a both push from the ground to the air and pull from the air (suction). Same happens with a decompression. You can treat it like you've been pushed out of the aircraft or you've been sucked out of the aircraft. Air is a liquid. Difference in pressures makes lower pressure particles want to take higher pressure particles = Suction.
I know you're a pilot. You have several video's on your flights. But this statement worries me. Not as in, that you have a pilot certificate, work hard, and earn what is justly yours. Well done! :) But, now you make it personal. On your behalf. I never ment it personally. I never meant to say, "haha, I am better than V-Aviation". I meant it as, "I am pedantic, this is a small thing I noticed". You know, like people point out, "oh, at so and so, it's not... instead, he's saying...". That's what I meant. I love the work that you do - for free even! I had and have no intentions of stepping on your toes.
I'll gladly argue my case, and listen to you argue yours. As long as it's not personal.
What time they said that was sucked out?
How can anyone with seat belt be sucked out?
Fábio Ricardo de Barros the pilot has two parts of seat belt,one for breast,one for legs.this pilot just tied the leg one .you can easily find the pilot was sucked out from another video.
Only the copilot was sucked out partially and managed to come back later.
Well In China They don't Use Flight Level
Well in China there is a metric equivalent of FL (1 metric FL = 100 meters)
The altitude numbers are in meter instead of feet tho
So?
Wow, that sucks.
The hero