Such organic and yet insanely controlled drumming - I’ve been obsessed with the drumming on this song for years - you put it exactly right, it’s a very odd beat, incredibly multilayered. The sound is so thick, that dark gorgeous stuttery pulsing, indefatigable relentless energy. Utter bliss. One of the greatest pieces of music & absolute greatest percussionists.
Guy, I think Bonham was a deceptively complicated drummer who had such a unique way of making drum beats and patterns sound so simple but there is so much hi-hat work and ghost notes going on. He was KING of the groove
I agree, I have a hard time playing Bonham because I just don’t think in the abstract way he did. He was unique and groundbreaking. Every drummer changed after him.
@@GuyGelso Yep. I was born in 73 but I have studied that era of music (slightly before my time) to know who's who and what bands and musicians really made a difference. The 1st Zep album changed everything as well in terms of what could be done. The Beatles made it possible and Zep took it to another level. They are the Blueprint to which all or most followed. Bonham was a total innovator. I don't think he would be too hip to click tracks and other methods of today in terms of perfection. His playing was organic. Funny enough I should find you here as I have been listening to the first 2 Zebra albums this past week. I also have a bootleg of you guys playing Rush covers in the late 70's. Awesome stuff!
Oh please, I can’t play Rush because I always hear a different way to play a part and you can’t deviate from Peart’s parts. My manager is all over me to do a Neil Peart bio, but I’m afraid the Neil fans will kill me If it’s not note for note!!!
@@GuyGelso yep. When people argue the Peart vs Bonham thing I think its ridiculous. To me it is apples and oranges. 2 totally different styles and approaches to their music. One things for sure.- both were perfect for the bands they were in and irreplaceable. The bootleg I have from ya'll is from 79' at a place called Mad Hatters, if memory serves me right. Ya'll are doing Xanadu or something like that. Very technical stuff. Maybe all the licks aren't perfect but it sounded damn good to my ears! I have been playing bass (and singing) since 1992. I started off playing some guitar and then moving to drums for a few years before that. I am currently working on mixing an album I played on with a 3 piece band. The mixing engineer has worked with heavier bands like Crowbar and Exhorder. Duane Simoneux. Good guy, knows his stuff. If you know anyone looking to record at a studio locally (in Nola area), he's your man. OCD recording and Production
Quote from Jimmy Page: "Bonzo had been to see Ginger Baker’s Air Force and he came in and he was really hyped about it. He liked Ginger Baker but he was like, 'I’ll show him!' And he came in and he picked up the four sticks and that's it, we just did two takes of it. "
Great lesson, guy! Some great demonstrations of this groove buy some great drummers here on UA-cam, but I find your lesson the most helpful and informative. Including the notation examples was much appreciated as well! Awesome stuff!
Thought I had it together with the quads and Tommy Aldridge combinations lol, this brought me right down to earth real quick. I play sixteenths with the right foot leading but to play this, it has to be turned around to line up the left foot with the right hand. An interesting ostinato pattern from April Wine's original drummer Jerry Mercer is a good one for coordination also. He plays eighths with the hi hat foot with the left hand playing the e's and a's on top of hi hat while soloing with right hand and right foot. Love your work Guy, you are a shot of inspiration and in my view one of the very best.
Thank you for this breakdown and lesson! I am prepping to play this at an upcoming event and this really helped me. Right now I am training my brain (and arms/legs) to NOT play the kick on the downbeat. Question - can you tell from the recording, did JB play the kick on *all* upbeats, compared to playing just on the upbeats and of 3,4,5 in the 5/8 section?
still sounds like its missing something, or its not entirely right, i hear an aditional note or two on the studio version and the live version seems even more diff with it sounding better.
Such organic and yet insanely controlled drumming - I’ve been obsessed with the drumming on this song for years - you put it exactly right, it’s a very odd beat, incredibly multilayered. The sound is so thick, that dark gorgeous stuttery pulsing, indefatigable relentless energy. Utter bliss. One of the greatest pieces of music & absolute greatest percussionists.
Guy, I think Bonham was a deceptively complicated drummer who had such a unique way of making drum beats and patterns sound so simple but there is so much hi-hat work and ghost notes going on. He was KING of the groove
I agree, I have a hard time playing Bonham because I just don’t think in the abstract way he did. He was unique and groundbreaking. Every drummer changed after him.
@@GuyGelso Yep. I was born in 73 but I have studied that era of music (slightly before my time) to know who's who and what bands and musicians really made a difference. The 1st Zep album changed everything as well in terms of what could be done. The Beatles made it possible and Zep took it to another level. They are the Blueprint to which all or most followed. Bonham was a total innovator.
I don't think he would be too hip to click tracks and other methods of today in terms of perfection. His playing was organic.
Funny enough I should find you here as I have been listening to the first 2 Zebra albums this past week.
I also have a bootleg of you guys playing Rush covers in the late 70's. Awesome stuff!
Oh please, I can’t play Rush because I always hear a different way to play a part and you can’t deviate from Peart’s parts. My manager is all over me to do a Neil Peart bio, but I’m afraid the Neil fans will kill me If it’s not note for note!!!
@@GuyGelso yep.
When people argue the Peart vs Bonham thing I think its ridiculous. To me it is apples and oranges. 2 totally different styles and approaches to their music. One things for sure.- both were perfect for the bands they were in and irreplaceable.
The bootleg I have from ya'll is from 79' at a place called Mad Hatters, if memory serves me right. Ya'll are doing Xanadu or something like that. Very technical stuff. Maybe all the licks aren't perfect but it sounded damn good to my ears!
I have been playing bass (and singing) since 1992. I started off playing some guitar and then moving to drums for a few years before that.
I am currently working on mixing an album I played on with a 3 piece band. The mixing engineer has worked with heavier bands like Crowbar and Exhorder. Duane Simoneux. Good guy, knows his stuff.
If you know anyone looking to record at a studio locally (in Nola area), he's your man.
OCD recording and Production
@@GuyGelso ua-cam.com/video/41tDMENiDGg/v-deo.html
That was great. An overlooked legendary song .
Quote from Jimmy Page: "Bonzo had been to see Ginger Baker’s Air Force and he came in and he was really hyped about it. He liked Ginger Baker but he was like, 'I’ll show him!' And he came in and he picked up the four sticks and that's it, we just did two takes of it. "
Bonzo was a god
You did awsome and your sound in that room
Long-time fan of your playing and music! How quickly you explain this while being thorough is fantastic! Thanks.
Thanks!!!
Sounds Awesome Guy and just like the record.
Guy I've enjoyed your drumming for over 30 years. Great video. Thanks for the lesson 👍
Thanks for watching my friend.
Great lesson, guy! Some great demonstrations of this groove buy some great drummers here on UA-cam, but I find your lesson the most helpful and informative. Including the notation examples was much appreciated as well! Awesome stuff!
thanks Kevin…much appreciated.
Fantastic tutorial Guy! I just discovered you here. I’m looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.
Thanks Phillip, more coming soon!!
Excellent tutorial!
Thank you!
Soooooo cool!! Thank you for this! I couldn't think of how it was even possible until I saw you do it! 🤟❤ from Missouri!
Jason, glad I could help!!! keep rockin'...Guy
Yo same! I’m new to drums and this is one of my favorite songs.
Awesome, Guy!
Thanks for the tutorial! I've always loved that groove and never knew how to play it. Great playing and video as always!
Thanks Tony!!!
Thought I had it together with the quads and Tommy Aldridge combinations lol, this brought me right down to earth real quick. I play sixteenths with the right foot leading but to play this, it has to be turned around to line up the left foot with the right hand. An interesting ostinato pattern from April Wine's original drummer Jerry Mercer is a good one for coordination also. He plays eighths with the hi hat foot with the left hand playing the e's and a's on top of hi hat while soloing with right hand and right foot. Love your work Guy, you are a shot of inspiration and in my view one of the very best.
Thanks Mark...Appreciate you watching!!
Awesome Guy 🔥🥁
Thanks!!
enjoyed that so much
love your work!!
Thank you for this breakdown and lesson! I am prepping to play this at an upcoming event and this really helped me. Right now I am training my brain (and arms/legs) to NOT play the kick on the downbeat. Question - can you tell from the recording, did JB play the kick on *all* upbeats, compared to playing just on the upbeats and of 3,4,5 in the 5/8 section?
HH downbeat, BD upbeat, throughout entire song.
What notes are your drums tunes to? Batters and Resos? Tunebot settings?
Not tuned to notes, I turn the size of the drums resonance so it doesn’t choke. Thank for commenting!!!
Badass
Thanks!!!
Id recommend Jason Bonham's take on it
I’ll check it out, thanks!!
still sounds like its missing something, or its not entirely right, i hear an aditional note or two on the studio version and the live version seems even more diff with it sounding better.
Hi hat on the downbeat immediately screws me up.