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- It is well known that the Vatican frowns upon men who love men. But that the centre of power of the Roman Catholic Church should at the same time be one of the largest gay communities worldwide was new to many when Frédéric Martel brought this thesis to the world in 2019.
After having published "In the Closet of the Vatican" simultaneously in eight languages, the French author and journalist was invited to countless talk shows, but the Vatican was shrouded in silence.
Whoever felt somehow different - just homosexual - as a young man in the 30s, 40s and 50s of the last century, found an oasis in the Roman Catholic Church, according to Martel. Men living among men, wearing different clothes and singing in a choir, that would have been the salvation for many, which was also accepted by society.
While most of the men Martel spoke to are very old, their world view remains: Homophobic on the outside, homophile on the inside. This led to a dangerous double standard, a culture of silence, which had very unhappily promoted the scandals around the Catholic Church.
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... my friends brother dropped out of seminary college because he was uncomfortable being surrounded by gay men
Don’t blame him bunch of weirdos
So priesthood is systematically condusive environment for gay
I agree that in the old times it was easy for gay men to hide themselves among the priests. You dont have to marry women, nobody asks you why you do not have sexual relations/ attraction with women, you could find another gay lover in the community.....
I’m not sure that it’s in the past. You get a few openly gay people going into it now
His delivery is perfect, she is rather impatient in her questioning
She’s so unprofessional, even laughing at his explanations. This is a profound revelation and she acts so juvenile.
I agree with you, it is as if her agenda wasn’t covered.
Galatians 6:7
“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
I was in Rome for the Pope's inauguration. One friend was there with his family, who were committed Jesuit believers. On the other hand, I knew another couple who thought english to vatican priests in the main seminaries, and over dinner would tell us how all the priests were openly gay. Not only that, the said the previous Pope was gay, and his assistant was his gay lover. I thought this was a fabricated tale, but they were unmoved in hearing anything else. This was normality in Rome. I was genuinely shocked. Its not until I hear this story, that it matched what I heard myself.
Spoiler: Siegfried and Roy were also gay.
I’m sorry, I am trying to process this information. You’re saying the rumor was that emeritus Pope Benedict XVI is gay?
@@pechaa Absolutely! It was well known when he was a Cardinal in Munich!
The interviewer in this video is rather irritating in the questions asked and her agitating attitude! Whereas Frédéric Martel is most informative and reasoned in his research and understanding. He reveals a reality so hidden and showing the two facedness so much of the past.
Well done for bringing these issues out in the public interest.
He seemed to 'sweep' through doors into elaborate vatican apartments and trendy cafes in Buenos Aires and major cities. The Vatican apartments described in detail; as if he was fascinated with them.
She is absolutely irritating. SRF Kulter you certainly wont get any subscribers with a staff member so inept. Why wrest any more books written about the priest scandals? By the way, the pope has just acknowledges marriage for all
Monsieur Martel ~
This work that you provided to the religious community ( as well as the
secular ) is Seminal !
Thank you for providing an English
translation at it's early release ; my
French is rather weak these days !
At my first read - you "had me" !
My second read it truly "held up"
with its literary scholarship . Now,
it has become a Reference - Go 2
for modern history in the Church.
Have you , by chance , thought
of doing a book / research on :
[ The French's participation in
the Vietnam War ? ]
Merci ,
£
She is a real poor interviewer seemingly with an agenda. What hasn't this book been written before? What a nonsensical question.
she is asking silly things.. in denial
I don't understand the point. The fact that something is something, does nothing (typically) to effect the morality of something. The fact that many priests are gay, does nothing to support the argument that it is Holy to be gay. Quite the contrary, homosexuality cannot be reconciled with the words and life of Christ, and will of God, of the Holy Bible. Full stop.
That's b.s. your archaic religion is toxic and dangerous. Homosexuality is a natural human behavior
No one is a sinner. No one is born bad.
@@PURPLE.REIGN.1999 Says a sinner.
“The point” is to conduct a secular sociological study on a phenomenon within the European and Latin American church as a global institution. The whole question of arguing for or against the morality of gay sex is not a question the book attempts to broach
@@minui8758 Excuse me. You are philosophically, logically and theologically wanting. My precise point is that the Holy Bible, as does theology of Faiths of the Book, as does (even secular) philosophy, all suggest that your want of moral uncertainty, ends in moral wantedness. Homosexuality is immoral. Sorry to hurt you, but available to bring you to that understanding.
He’s very interesting. The interviewer not so good.
But she's pretty 🔥
It's a secure place to hid sin behind the cloth
Homosexuality is not a sin
'Bullshit' - we say 'excuse my French' to a vulgar expletive.
Yes, the Catholic Church's setup for their priesthood does encourage "gay" men to enter the priesthood.
However, the problem of the Catholic Church is that it is a Middle Ages church that operates on Middle Ages values:
sin is to be avoided and consequently one must live in a monastery or convent to avoid contagion!
Jesus was about people, not ceremony, vestments, scriptures, etc.
Jesus was all about love, charity, and acceptance!
Young people refuse to enter a church once they leave the family nest!
They are not "fearful" like their parents!
I give the Catholic Church ten years!!!
Many of the older clergy told him, for reading material, they read the 'French Catholic' writers, Mauriac and Julian Green.
Who both had homosexual relationships with other men.
I have just started reading this book but so far am not impressed with monsior martel
Just finished the book.
May I know the book's title? Grazie!🙏💐❤️💛💙🌿👏
In The Closet Of The Vatican
In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy
If they don't attack it, it won't get advertised for free. Better accept and perhaps it won't be best seller.
Wonderful! Gay men have a tendency toward empathy and spiritual sensitivity. It is no surprise that God would call more of them into ministry. :)
Do you even hear yourself, this was the dumbest thing I’ve heard 😂
Read the Bible please
Where is his proof?
You know google, you can search all this out for free.
In the chocolate pudding.
I did not know that the majority of the Priests in the Vatican were Gay.Knowing this,there must
be a great number of Priests in the World who are Gay.In the World,we have many Religious
Orders for both Men and Women.ie.,Monks,Friars,Nuns and Sisters,Etc.I would assume you
would find Gays and Lesbians in the Religious Orders as well.It is sad.This is Life though.
We are all Sinners.
Homosexuality is NOT a sin. Religions made it a sin, and therefore many gay people have to hide it because religious people attack them
@@colinmccarthy7921 - and just what is a sin?
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