Let's Talk Low Pass Gates!
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00:00 intro
00:54 what is a lowpass gate?
05:00 intro to patch
05:32 make noise dynamix
07:58 make noise optomix
10:00 rabid elephant natural gate
12:52 vult freak manifold filter
14:00 ssf steady stage gate
18:14 noise engineering since bucina
20:07 outro
Kudos for creating a melodic sequence that did not get old after 20+ minutes of repetition. My wife literally said, “why can’t you make jams like this?”
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No she didn’t
"Well, its obvious, honey. He has actual talent" ------ thats my house. 🤣
@@SpikesStudio3 I think dismissing it as "talent" neglects the years of hard work he's put into refining his craft. Do you it's merely talent?
Thanks for making a modular specific channel Jeremy. It's been my obsession the last 2 years or so, and that's all because of you and your videos! I predict an influx of Steady State Gate sales once some people have watched this, that thing sounds so good.
That steady state sounds so great. I was jamming along, but when the steady state came on, I focused right in.
I’ve literally been researching low pass gates to use with my Loquelic and Cursus. Good timing
I use the simple optomix with these two, great results 🤘
@@AKubbara thank you- I was kind of leaning toward that but wasn’t really sure
I absolutely love my low pass gates. I have an LXD and the Natural Gate. I love the sound and playability of the natural gate. But the LXD sounds amazing at audio rate especially when i through a sub square from the complex oscillator i’m using. Next on the list will have to be the Steady State Gate demoed here
After trying many LPG’s over the year I have decided my keepers and favorites are Natural Gate, Buchla/Tiptop 292t, and Steady State Gate. Steady State Gate is a lot more than an lpg though, it feels like it’s in a different category.
Thanks, very nice video as usual ! Much love to the channel
Really helpful to get insight into these and a comparison between different modules
Fantastic primer on LPGs. Love the format. So inspiring.
dude, you really got your shit back together. thx. now i get lpg. was trying to gain control over a 10grd+ full buchla system at schneidersladen… one day … ill try again.
Great stuff! I love low pass gates. All I have for them in my system is a Jolin Agogo, but I'm really tempted by the idea of a Steady State Gate at some point.
This enthralling demonstration just earned you another subscriber! Great job . . . I got the world of it!
Love the ssf lpg. It would have been great if there were an attenuverter at the gate. It sounds much sweeter when you give it a (very) low input voltage.
Hey this is really useful for people getting started with modular. I hope you do more videos like this exploring a single type of module/ concept.
I love that you created a modular channel! Also, thanks for the crash course in LPG. I had heard many people talking about those, but I never paid much mind. I did not know I needed one until just now haha! I agree that the Natural Gate sounds nice, but the SSG was killer when you started adding in some modulation on the controls. Also, the Sinc Bucina sounded pretty decent. That gives me a few choices to keep an eye out for.
I was really looking for a side by side test with Natural Gate and SSG, and, with a sequence that makes sense ! You’ve done it ! Thank you ! By the way, to me, Natural Gate really makes its magic at the moment you plug it !
Pittsburgh Modular Bat Dynamics Controller is my fave LPG. It has resonance like the SSG and sounds amazing.
Really enjoyed this and the Mutable patching video. I love both my Natural Gate and SSG. Frap Tools Cunsa also has a pretty nice LPG-ish combination mode, and you can also use it with the bandpass and hipass outputs (though I haven't found a use for the "HPG" mode).
I just love your videos! Keep it up!
The Makenoise DXG is next on my to-buy list. Seems like a great option for stereo heavy systems. I also have one of those cute little 0hp passive low pass gates from Mystic Circuits that comes in handy pretty often.
The only lpg I own is the optomix v1 and I absolutely love it. I love feeding it chords from plaits in chord mode, sounds so cool and stabby.
The plaits has its own LPG 😉.
@@tillorrly1128 yeah I know, but it sounds way different from optomix
Really enjoying this new channer thank you J
I am so getting into LPGs! I bought the XPO (your fault...) and am loving tapping the waveform outs into the Doepfer LPG. I will get more (probably the Sinc Bucina and the Make noise DXG). really loved this video. It has opened my eyes the the possibilities these little boxes offer! Great Job, Jeremy! Hugz!
informative and beautiful video!
Cadmium for life! Cadmium for success! Love my vactrols, but there are lovely ways to do this wihout them too. Nice video! I recently did a design similar to the Natural Gate and have been having a lot of fun with it. You can get some amazing little (hard to describe) plucky details out if you have enough controls to play with. You've got quite the collection there :) I can build you one sometime if you want to try it.
I have no problem with Cadmium as long as it does not end up in disposable electronics. I hope none of your are throwing away eurorack modules ($$$). Hang onto them forever, sell them when you're done with them, and that's the most environmentally responsible way to deal with devices that have cadmium, lead, etc.
i have a steady state gate and dont regret its purchase a single moment. was worried that i would feel like it was missing that vactrol feel due to its design but SSF really nailed it and gave it so much more flavor than i thought i wanted
Cool video, I tried a lot of LPG‘s and finally realized that maths and basically any filter lets you roll your own LPG since you can finetune the envelopes to basically any shape you like.
Nice vid! Definitely a topic I need to read up on more - no LPGs in my setup (except the freak)
Poor optomix. No love? It's a fantastic low pass gate. I love them all. each quite different in their own right. I currently have 4 lowpass gates. optomix, sinc bucina, synthrotek and taklab. Looking forward to tiptop buchla one at some point and Steady sate. Keep up the great vids. x
I'll play the Freak Nurage apologist here! I think you maybe didn't get the Freak "Nurage" LPG set up correctly. I have one, and it can hold its own as a LPG. But it's not as flexible as some of these others. Also note that Freak's modulation input range can be changed from 10V to 5V in the settings. But you definitely have to dial in the Cutoff and Drive with Nurage. In many of the non-dialed-in knob positions Freak Nurage doesn't deliver much interesting. That's partly the flaw of Freak being a general purpose filter that has to map its controls to all the different models. (Nurage and Freak are, of course, available in VCV too. Maybe paid?? So people can experiment at home.)
I'll give it another try with this info. The manual is very unspecified.
I really enjoyed the Freak when I had it. I even have a video on my channel running a Buchla 259e through the Vult in LPG-mode. :)
I run my Instruo Saich through the SSG. Gives a real nice Deadmau5 pluck type sound!
Great content! Liked and subscribed! I'm liking the Steady State.. I'm all about saturation and resonance :)
Among your demonstrated devices, I have to vote for either the Natural Gate, or Steady State Gate.
Me during the video: I frigging need a Natural Gate, that thing sounds amazing.
Me after seeing it's price: Nope, nope, no, hell no! Nope.
I have the Takaab 2LPG v3. It's very affordable and I can ping it with a trigger for the classic pluck soung. I can give it a gate to give it some sustain. Or with the right module, an ADSR envelope to use it as an VCA with simple low-pass filter. There is also a tone switch to let you choose between 3 different tone settings if you want to really apply a lot of low-pass filtering for a bass or some kinds of drum sounds.
I’ve had the Takkab, LxD, Optomix, and Dynamix and I kept the Takaab. I had one amazing LxD and one not so great one. While the LxD had an aggressive quality that I liked, for sitting in the mix I found myself going to the takaab over and over again. It’s an amazing module, even if you take away the fact that it costs peanuts compared with the rest.
I've had better luck with the Freak as a LPG with CV range set to 5v instead of 10v. I have nothing to compare it with, but I think its sounds a lot better that way!
I was just thinking that I don't really know much about LPGs... great timing!
My favourite lpg (that I own) is the RYO Aperture. V classic buchla sounding vactrol lowpass but with resonance, an output distortion & a filter/both/vca mode switch. If I was trying to buy an lpg now I think I'd probably buy the Steady State Gate. It's pretty amazing to be able to do audio rate frequency modulation etc. on something that still sounds otherwise very vactrol-ish
cool stuff! love the pittsburgh LPGs
Great video!
That Steady State Gate is tooooo good! SSF! Well done!
Love mine SSG too, works great after Zaps!
Interesting video!
I really loved the lopass gate in the pittsburgh modular double helix oscillator. I wish i could get that as a standalone module. My optomix is not really doing it for me.
I’ve had the Takkab, LxD, Optomix, and Dynamix and I kept the Takaab. I had one amazing LxD and one not so great one. While the LxD had an aggressive quality that I liked, for sitting in the mix I found myself going to the takaab over and over again. It’s an amazing module, even if you take away the fact that it costs peanuts compared with the rest.
In fact, I sold all my euro rack gear and the takaab LPG is the only module I kept. I run my neutron and other semi Modular’s through it. The fact that it’s passive allowed me to keep it without need a power source. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for one.
I love my SSG but that Natural Gate is starting to steal my attention...
Its also great how the steve buscemi has that classic NE sound still
I don't have a single lpg and the video was timely. The new stereo lpg from make noise is interesting since I've been exploring a lot of stereo things but I love everything from SSF that I've tried so far
This is my favorite new old channer.
I'd be curious about your thoughts on something like the Dynamics Controller Bat from Pittsburgh Modular - many of their designs are "love letters", I guess, to the heritage of both East and West coast synthesis. They've designed a number of analog low pass gates over the years and I'd be interested in how their implementations compare to some of the other ones mentioned here (as well as other types of modules in your collection). Thanks for the video!
Amazing demo. I almost spit all my food out at that Steve Buscemi joke 😂
I'm guessing you could have run an offset (or a couple of summed offsets) into a VCA to create a 10V trigger for Freak? Would be interesting to try, to see if it gives you a worthy LPG.
To my ears it's a tie between Natural Gate & SSG - different flavours but both very good.
thank you
I had the Vult Freak a couple of years ago and messaged the developer about both the voltage range (5 or 10v) and decay time (short/mid/long) so both of these issues have been fixed since a couple of years back. I got a rather good LPG sound out of it. I have a video from maybe a year ago on my channel where I run a Buchla 259e through it and it does the job. :)
It’s no 292 but it handles the 259e rather well i think.
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Yes. I remember that. I added the option to select 5V or 10V modulations. The default is still 10 V which is usually not enough for gate signals. I will consider making the default for the LPG 5V. The main reason that 10 V is the default is because the 1V/Oct is easier to use when the filters are used as oscillators.
That natural gate, wow. I checked on Reverb, fuck that 😂
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I love the steady state. It gets sooooo nasty.
If you want to get into doing DIY modular, a low pass gate really is a dramatically simple device.
Great tip
Thanks for the explanation! Now I really want one... Have you tried Doepfer Low Pass gate? I'm curious how that one stacks up to these
Thanks for the UK-only reference at 1:44…
I really didn’t get on with the Sinc Bucina at all. Do I really want to pay now/ get a Natural Gate by the end of the year? Possibly. Meantime I will continue to patch the v1 and v2 Optomixes in everything- and I will certainly be keeping my eyes open for a Dynamix.
The dynamic is great and is EXTREMELY snappy, but it never felt like a low pass gate to me. It had its own quality that I really loved though.
Nice!
Love my Natural Gate but miss my LxD. The SSG sounds super rave-y.
i felt like a crazy person because i couldn't quite jive with the natural gate. it does sound great but the memory feature they tout (of it progressively opening under rapid triggers) i found nearly impossible to work with, as the increase in volume was too great. it felt like i couldn't e.g. send fill patterns to it because it would suddenly overwhelm the mix.
I have a volca modular and a Kastle mk2. And I am trying to figure out how to connect them properly together. To where they co-exist eco-wise? at least trying to see how to feed it into the second low pass gate of the module? If you have any tips on that I'd love to hear them thank you 🙏✌️
No Buchla/tiptop quad dynamics manager ?. Sound fantastic
Gonna stick with my OG MN OPTOMIX til I can one day do the entire Buchla system (didn’t want to dabble in that tiptop Buchla stuff til ALL the modules are out and available
The elephant sounds soooo buttery but I can't justify the priced next to the SSG
SSG definitely has the largest range of "colors" available ;-) Too bad DXG didn't make it in here. Had mine about a day and a half.
Yeah I'm trying not to spend a ton of money but I do wanna try it
@@RedMeansRecordingModular I want a 3 Sisters if they ever ship any. It's really the end of my hot list. Maybe Batumi II and Belgrad if those ship.
Great video. I still don't get how it's different than a single envelope controlling both an LPF and VCA, with different mod depth for each, as long as it's an exponential curve. I guess if I get curious I can try it out on the Disting EX and maybe I'll see the light. Love the patch and sequence btw!
Thanks for making this! I have been wondering what a LPG was all about, and now I want to suddenly get one 😂
I have been using Maths to CV my filters in a similar way. A LPG basically just combines a filter, 2 envelopes, and a vca? Am I missing any other secrets?
Steady State Gate sounds cool.
I have a bunch of filters but no LPGs (except the emulation in Squawk Dirty). Never really got into it...
The doepfer LPG is great _but_ there's a fair amount of variability in the vactrols they're using for whatever reasons. For the price it's a steal, even "bad" examples aren't bad they just don't ping as high, for the few I've played.
Check out the AI synthesis AI017 lpg. Sounds good when used normally, but turn the input attenuator all the way up and then the resonance all the way up, the overdriven resonance sounds evil, alien, and just so very awesome
my favorite LPG is whatever one I'm listening to right now 😂
Great breakdown. I have the SSF AND Optomix, but the Natural Gate is an LPG so nice I bought it twice!
Damn! Lucky you!! It's a super super great one.
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New merch?
I have a passive dual lpg from error and a DoepferA-101-2 that I need to understand more.
MMm the Low Pass Gate functions simular to a Karplus Strong Algorithm.
So is It right to say if you have a vca a VCF and an env you can make a lpg, but not vice versa?
Try it with a lpf and vca and an exponential decay feeding both
arent vactrols just an led + a photoresistor wrapped in heatshrink tubing?
yeah, I've made a few
Now I want to program my own digital LPG for the Patch.Init() :)
Well we would all love NG but almost impossible to attain so next best is SSG I guess
Barker - Utility & Debiasing. Low Pass Gates used to their max.
I love sine waves. They are much better than _Cats_ . I'm going to listen to them again and again.
Kitty gets smooches on top of his head, not lips. Much like me, he doesn't like people touching his whiskers.
can you also test DXG at some point
When budget allows!
I would tend to a use a no-pass gate when The Archers comes on.
I have found out after this video that the archers is traumatizing to a huge number of people and I didn't even know what it was :(
Just would like to shout out Erica Synths Pico LPGs
Holy hell how many mods do you have. Envy
Oh Jeremy I hate you for making me want a Natural Gate even more than I already did 😔
lil feedback on my side: the hectical moving papers in the back especially the black ones are extremely distracting and stressfull for me and almost make me skip this whole part.....at least when watching on my PC.
Otherwise great video!
I am sine wave, you are sine wave, we are sine wave, Sine Wave R Us
Hmm, you think the demand for LPGs would ever have made a dent in the global demand for cadmium?
I mean in comparison to the co2 footprint of even this video...
sounds nice tho :)
I hope you don't fire any nukes off of that beast by accident.
I wonder if anyone opted for a non vactrol based LPG strictly bc of environmental “concerns”
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Oh man, rack envy at all time highs with that Vult Freak sitting there. If Leonardo ever puts out a hardware Trummor2, I might just be done.
Pretty happy with the mystic circuits 0hp lpgs and the couple in my volca modular (best volca)
Did you just low pass The Archers lol?
I wanted to take in all the information but was unable to watch because of the fast moving backgrounds.
I suppose passive low pass gates are a be meh, then
Most lpg don’t have an envelope
LOLpass
Would I buy the Natural Gate. Yes! Is it available? Nooooooooo :(
There's two available on modulargrid
Ayo where DXG
No money for it ATM :(
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