Something I would like to bring up is that the Hierro isnt an activated ability. It is a part of their biology and something always active. Arrancar just innately have harder skin than the other races in bleach.
As seen with Yammy, who literally couldn't reinforce himself because he couldn't judge his opponents' strength, busting up Yoruichi's limbs as she was hitting him. I dunno if even a Maximum Hollow Purple would do enough, honestly.
@@RealFirmament if you think about it, since hollow purple is simply imaginary mass that just destroys physical matter, it technically wouldnt even do anything to non-quincies since shinigami, hollows and arrancar dont physically exist
@@KLOTEROLEROTARhollows exist enough to do real physical damage to buildings and Rukia got kicked by Ichigo before he unlocked his powers, still in his physical body. I wouldn't say they don't physically exist at all.
@@RealFirmament Rukia was able to be kicked by Rukia by Ichigo because Ichigo had high spiritual pressure, even as a human. Also as stated in the Fullbringer arc, all structures within the bleach cosmology have souls, so that is likely why Hollows can damage them. As Hollow Purple is simply imaginary mass, it wouldn't have any spiritual power, even if we equalize verses, and would just do nothing to spiritual entities due to how it functions.
@@KLOTEROLEROTARFair. At the very least there seems to be multiple characters in bleach that believe physical power can overcome spiritual power, such as Giriko buffing himself up physically in order to try and fight kenpachi, or *Aizen* thinking that Ichigo sacrificed his reiatsu completely in favor of physical strength when he first grabbed him to remove him from Karakura Town. Aizen should be smart enough to know better if it wasn't a strong possibility, at least.
I see a lot of JJK kids that haven´t seen or read bleach trying to downplay the scaling of the universe. Bleach has the highest scaling out of the big 3 and even the naruto-verse negs JJK. I love JJK it´s one of my favourite mangas, but people need to be realistic when comparing.
Debates like this are always funny because the fans of the older IP are kind of blinded. It's like when old school star wars fans say Luke is the best ever. It always gives off "my dad can beat up your dad" energy.
@boomer3494 yeah the "kids not reading or downplaying". Like alot of fans of longer standing IP this is basically you trying to end any conversation by discrediting anyone else as a child with no knowledge.
Another thing, the espada are spiritual beings and can only be seen by those with spiritual energy in them, that mean that Gojo can't even see his opponent
@@Gignoberto_89 spiritual energy and cursed energy are basically same ,both allow you to see spiritual beings,gojo cant even stand up to soul society shikai ichigo
Spiritual pressure = cursed energy in this case. We know gojo has a TON of it so they cant kill each other with spiritual pressure. And since spiritual energy = cursed energy and gojo has a lot of it he can also see the espadas.
@@willmayer5921 Im sorry but grimmjow's spiritual pressure isnt that strong enough to negate gojo's abilities. Grimjow hasnt done any feat that could be planetary or even continental. The best thing he was about to do was maybe not even considered city level feat and it was when he was about to rip the sky of the las nochas which is a fake sky created by Aizen. This makes him equal to aizen when it comes to spiritual pressure/cursed energy
This is one of those cases where I think most fights end up a draw. While the Espada might not be able to get past infinity, they out scale Gojo so much that he can't output enough power to really damage them. Even with domain expansion, his fastest release is 0.2 seconds but the Espada are casually light speed. They aren't getting caught by it realistically. I'm also not convinced that being in unlimited void would turn off the Espada's hierro, and even hollow purple isn't going to really bother the mid to upper ranks
0.2 seconds is the amount of time he had his domain activated, not the time it took to activate it. Bleach speed feats are so above JJK ones that they would be able to leave japan by the time Gojo says “domai…”.
@@arpadszabo661 Bullshit, give us one example of them moving at such speed. Fucking Ichigo who is suppousedly light speed, wasn't able to catch Yhwach who escaped him in last anime cour, and Yhwach was at most 1km away from Ichigo at that moment. If he was truly light speed, he would catch him with no issue in 0.0000001 second. Your scaling is fucking whack, those numbers you put out are inconsistent bullshit because characters who are supposedly light speed are not even capable of moving at such speed.
I find it funny when people try to debate Aizen vs Gojo on Gojo's part when Shinigami Aizen (before he even fused with the Hogyoku) is literally stronger than the Espada in the Arrancar Arc combined together
@@txicemiya1625 no need to, even ignoring that his mere presence negs if he wants, he's made of spirit matter not physical matter, so he can just walk past infinity. even if he doesn't, he can use kurohitsugi which is a literal black hole and bypass infinity.
Aizen was absolutely not stronger than the Espada in the Arrancar arc combined. MAYBE he could 1v1 Starrk, but Kyoka has very obvious weaknesses which Yamamoto abused. Starrk would absolutely gut him before Hogyoku and even Harribel has an okay chance of forcing a win. His power relies on manipulation of five senses but kyoka cannot hide its rieatsu signature. That's ignoring the fact he's, at best, Harribel level with rieatsu and reiryoku. If we combine the top 3 Espada, it's a massacre.
@@MysticalArcane No, he was very much more powerful than the entire Espada combined. He effortlessly one shotted Harribel & made Baraggan bow to him. They cannot compare to his power, which is why they follow him. Starrk would also get power gapped hard, it's not even fair.
it’s honestly fax tho. most modern day shonen other than black clover or fire force don’t compete when it comes to power scaling. chainsawman, jjk, kaiju no 8, etc. mha, none of these verses consistently reach planetary and ftl feats
@@shahsaad3357 I know. But still, the fact that the whole comment secton speaks with one voice is something special. Especially when a series as misunderstood as bleach is involved... Usually, there is always a part of the viewers that are against the conclusion of the video, regardless the things that were assumed or even proved in the video. But not here. That's something i've never seen before.
You guys forgot a very important attack the Espada can use... Gran Rey Cero. A Cero that can distort space... The Cero literally distorts space 💀. I'm pretty sure they would rip through infinity with that not to mention they can open/send people to dimensions too like Garganta opening and Caja Negacion.
They open portals and break out of dimensions. They can even fuck up the dangai which is a separate space time. What the fuck is infinity compared to that?
@Lilymacdonald-cc6gh they even open portals in space time. They could bypass it either way....hell they even break out of pocket dimensions and can fuck up the dangai if they wanted to which is a separate space time
Zommaris attack was blocked by a barrier because its a physical object obstructing his vision he cant place the marks on something he cant see, the infinity isnt a barrier in the same way it doesnt obscure vision so he could definitely mark and bet gojo
It isn't actually a physical barrier in the sense most think. Bakudo 81 Danku translates to "splitting void" so it is actually uncannily similar to Gojos ability in the way it functions as a partitioned void between two spaces. It could block zomaries ability because that was effectively where his line of sight ended (though the barrier seems to let light through on the other side, but filters out any harmful sprite energy on the other side.)
One thing I feel we gotta stress is that Sukuna survived both Hollow Purple with only a missing hand and some battle damage 😅. The espada definitely are taking that and more.
Domain amplification creates a space where enemy attack is poured into. That's why he said he easily tanked 200% hollow purple but was worried that mere 120% will kill him. He didn't physical tank it. He used hax.
@@sosa8549 To be honest, I don't know why you're telling me this. Are you mistaking me for someone else you were arguing with or something. I don't understand 🤨.
Bleach completely stomps JJK verse. I compare it to Gojo vs Darkness Devil, and I have two very strong cannon reasons why; 1) when ichigo attacks Kenpachi Zaraki in the soul society arc, ichigo takes damage leaving no mark on Kenpachi because he had lower spiritual pressure/spiritual energy. Everyone in JJK verse doesn't have NEARLY the level of energy. 2) Yamamoto's spiritual pressure caused nanao to be paralyzed and unable to breathe do to the sheer overwhelming quantity of spiritual pressure. This isn't him exerting his pressure, thus causing it to be "harmful", it's treated like a natural phenomenon like gravity. Thus, Gojo would 1) take all the damage and deal none and 2) be overwhelmingly dominated by the spiritual pressure of any of the Espada.
@@matu5619 The USA consumed a total of 97.33 quadrillion Btu in 2021, which a single Btu being equal to 1.055e+18 J so: 97.33*1.055e+18J= 1.0268315e+20 J That's assuming an entire year. now take power of 2 for black flash and you get 1.05438293e40 J. 1.81e+30J to 6.906e+37J is planet level, 2.277e+45J to 2.008e+57J is solar system level. so your number is a low ball on how long he could power the USA, but even when you use the year estimate he's still not universe scale, and not galaxy or solar system size neither. he is definitely within planet scale levels even being extremely over the top giving him a year estimate for a feat that probably only meant a few days. I get what your saying though, playing by JJK rules the shear amount of their energies gets them nothing, no resistance, no pressure either. the thing however is this, how do we get these people to fight in the first place? we need some neutral ground where both power systems work as intended if we do this Gojo would be effected by the above abilities while having to constantly fight against not only their real attacks but also their pressure as well which at the least would force him to infinity constantly. I agree with the video that most just wouldn't have a chance against Gojo just because of his technique being broken.
@@matu5619 Boring? He's not solar system level brody. He tried his best in fighting sukuna and he barely destroyed a couple of buildings...meaning that statement was either hyperbole or a plot hole
The problem is No Operator has not clue how the power system in Bleach actually works. Gran Rey Cero is so dense, it distorts Space, it would simply distort and bypass Infinity. Gojo gets low diffed by every Espada. This video is simply non factual trash.
@@zigazdovc6175 Nothing here is factual you fking moron. Those are all fictional characters with fictional power systems that are inconsistent as fuck as nobody in this world is capable of writing consistent power system, JJK is close to that goal but is still not there, not to mention that piece of shit of an anime called Bleach that has power scaling that is all over the place. Secondly "distorting space" doesn't mean it can distort infinite space. Uro's CT also distorts and bends space, but that CT is not capable of doing it on infinite scale, therefore it is inefficient against Infinity. So for the love of God, shut the fk up you uneducated twats about shit you don't understand.
@@zigazdovc6175uro technique sky manipulation also distort space and manipulate it still it ain't getting pass limitless. Anything mass or density is definatlely not getting pass infinity.
Wrong JJK dick rider, Sky Manipulation and Gran Rey Cero are not the same things. Gran Rey Cero would simply bypass Infinity similar to how Sukuna does it with his World Slash. As Infinity exists in Space, it would be warped away from Gojo, allowing the Cero to hit Gojo with it. Gojo is toast.@@user-ww9ww1pp2u
Bro. They can literally bust out of dimensions with ease. Theyre literally open fucking portals and bust time spaces like the dangai. Infinity is not stopping their level of spacial manipulation.
@@rahulwagh100 How? She isn't strong enough to bypass Infinity, and Gojo has significant combat experience. I'm not saying he can defeat the strong Bleach characters, but he can definitely beat her with his Infinity and Unlimited Void.
JJK fans are vastly overrating the power of the verse. A standard Gillian could easily kill everyone. An espada would make it look like a cake walk. Stop comparing to Bleach.
@@SinnarattygangYou make no sense. The whole point of my comment is that Bleach is way too strong to even compare it to JJK. This whole video makes no sense since a simple Gillian can cakewalk the JJK verse. These fools in the video trying to rationalize something that makes no sense at all.
Menos grande casually rip through space with their dimension techniques. Espadas can do the same and can rip space with Gran Rey Cero. Also, Sukuna tanked hollow purple twice with only missing arms. The espadas hierro will tank it with ease. Gojo's best win condition is domain expansion.
Domain Expansion would not be able to contain captain level riatsu and would instantly shatter. Even a lieutenant's passive riatsu poses danger to a country.
Barragan is a hard counter to Gojo, being able to age and decay Kido which is essentially just spiritual energy I think he has the ability to decay infinitely because it’s made up of cursed energy.
Yes. Finally someone with sense. Zomari is also a hard counter. I would also argue a fast enough attack would bypass infinity, but I know Gojo fanboys are gonna be mad at that.
NAH, the Gojo glazing is INSANE! That man Gojo caps at island in AP and mach 3 in speed, what can he do? Spam his Domain? When he gets perception blitzed? One Gran Rey Cero with it spac-distortion quality would tore through Infinity and anihilate him and Caja Negacion will trap him forever. Espada takes it No Diff.
While I can’t confirm that they distort space-time. I do know that Cero is stated to be Spiritual LIGHT!! Infinity can’t stop light. Any hollow that can use Cero can one shot Gojo. Heck I’m pretty sure even Bala one taps Gojo.
@@wildstorm3486your delusional saying infinity can’t stop light if it travels then infinity stops it only speed that can get through infinity is infinite speed or 4d capabilities stop spreading false statements to fit ur agenda
As much as i love Jjk, i have to admit that Jjk does not scale that high as far as destruction capabilities. Satoru strongest attack a 200% hollow purple destroyed a couple of city blocks. It is the exact same situation for Sukuna. The 2 strongest are barely destroying half a city 🤦🏿♂️ the entire jjk verse is cooked against 95% of shonen.
How about putting jjk up against another Bleach group. The Sterinritter, the quincy have interesting and unique abilities that could make for intresting discussion. Love the work keep it up 🙏
Nah dawg that's not fair 💀. You got guys who can send him to space, wish him dead, 1 shot instantaneous attacks, uno reverse him and other insane Hax. Maybe leave out Gremmy and the Elites. Askin can kill him too if he interacts with any of his curse techniques or just poison the air he breathes 💀. Only character that he could kill in Elites is Pernida... And that's IF we're using pre-Kenpachi Pernida. He absorbed Kenpachi's power so he should also have spatial Hax(not talking him cutting Vacuum of space in Tybw. In Safwy Kenpachi cut a hole in Dangai and fractured a small part of the Garganta).
All these characters just negate limitless with their raw spiritual pressure. Gojo at best is city level all these espada are Country-Multi Continent busters. Also there is absolutely no way Gojo can even perceive the speeds the Espada can move in even in base. Let alone catch them in a domain.
Few things wrong, 1) The espada ranking has been debunked by kubo, he stated they are based on the numbers that represent aspects of death, the question asked Q. "Is the form of death (aspect) ruled by the ten blades the same for different people, as long as they have the same num Harribel and Nelliel? If it's different, l'd like to know what it was like when Nelliel had ten blades!
A553. It's the same. Nelliel is also a "sacrifice." Meaning the aspects are ordered 0-9 and never change, only the person who holds the number changes. So luppi as rank 6 was weaker than grimmjow since grimmjow one shot him, so why wasnt grimmjow moved down to rank 7 since we know hes above zommari because released grimmjow is almost relative to bankai masked ichigo and zommari was much weaker than bankai byakuya who is below bankai masked ichigo, or why wasnt zommari moved to rank 6 when luppi is clearly weaker than him and luppi rank 7, its because the espada can only be a specific aspect because it relates to their personality and they can compete with other candidates. So the aspects within themselves are ranked such that halibel would have to fight nel for the true rank 3 (sacrifce) holder since the numbers represent aspects and not power, nel can only be at rank 3 because she only or mainly represents sacrifice. This means ulquiorra who is the strongest espada, cannot be rank 1 or any other because he doesnt represent loneliness or the other aspects. This also makes sense since ulquiorra couldnt one shot grimmjow and even had his attack negated who was 2 ranks below him yet grimmjow could one shot luppi while at the same rank yet ulq couldnt while being 2 ranks above grimmjow. So the espada are not ranked by power but by aspects, further proof is yammy in 0 form having his balas and punch blocked by half bankai ichigo, while full bankai masked ichigo couldnt even see 1st release ulquiorra, block his attacks or damage him, Infact he nearly died from one attack. Yet he can tank the supposed strongest espada in half bankai, clearly they arent ranked by power. Which is why the number 3 espada is always sacrifice, dordoni was number 3, he was sacrifice, nel was number 3, also sacrifice, and the same for halibel. He confirmed this is how they are ranked in a klub outside question, he essentially retconned the espada. So from feats its ulquiorra and barragan who are the strongest. 2) The gran rey cero warps space and thus time, gojo applies infinity to space within his range/influence, only looks to be a metre extending omni directionally around him. Gojo isn't actually creating an infinite space but continuosly halving the speed of anything within the range so it never reaches him, ofcourse it doesnt have to be halved, any fraction will do so long as its continous. If we talk mathematically, his body is the integer 1 and the outer layer of his infinity influence is 2. When something at a any given speed hits the infinity barrier it begins being divided by a fraction in a series, so 15m/s / 2. But he has to do this faster than the object can travel within the distance it is from. Say his outer barrier (2) is 1 metre away from his body (1), a object coming at him at 15m/s that is halved will be 7.5m/s and if he halved it in 100ms, then the object traveled 1.5 metres, which means it went 0.5 metres past gojo or through him. So he has to be dividing it much faster than it moves or he can choose how much he divides it by, we also know he cant do this infinitetly as that would require infinite energy. But because the gran rey cero warps space inwards from its explosion area as we see in the manga with the light bending inwards form the clouds which is why they look distorted (gravitational lensing), this would mean the space around him hes applied infinity too will be pulled towards the gran rey cero, which means his barrier is now compromised instantly, meaning he will be damaged by the explosion and likely die. 3) domains can also be broken by cursed energy, since most of the espada (6 and lower) are stronger than him and can produce so much energy just by transforming or screaming and since they can release reiatsu as a pressure wave it would likely break the domain. Reiatsu also naturally leaves the body, kenpachi when fighting shikai ichigo actually blocked his attack with his subconciously leaking reiatsu as he states. 3.5) You brough this up, that they can break through space with spirit energy/spiritual pressure, ulquiorra broke out of aizens caja de negacion dimension and TLA arc ichigo broke out of yukios dimension considered to be unbreakable just by going bankai. Which means spirit energy can effect space and thus time, since they are a continuum. Which means casual spiritual energy/pressure and attacks of atleast above base ulquiorras level should warp space and thus negate infinity/expose gojo to being damaged so to speak. 4) the caja de negacion wraps you in space itself and takes you to another dimension. Gojos infinity cannot bypass space, only things/objects/energy in motion, not space itself since that would contradict his own power and it would collapse in on itself. 5) If they are in his domain and it works somewhat like it does on cursed spirits but less so as they are in another league, he physically cannot rip their head off since their durability and skin is much harder due to hierro which is just spirit energy in their skin/body reinforcing it. Everyone in bleach has this passively and its greater when focused, he'd have to use hollow purple but i doubt it would harm the stronger ones like grimmjow and above, hollow purple does erase from existence i believe but so does the hado haien as stated in the manga/anime and guide book, while this works on grimmjows cut off arm, orihime is able to negate the erasure, later she is seen struggling to negate base ulquiorras spirit energy and physical damage on ichigo (the whole in his chest) and even later she cant negate 2nd release ulquiorras cero oscuras damage which means its above existence erasure or that existence erasure has a potency level in bleach and it scales to reiatsu/reiryoku which makes more sense, which would mean espads like ulquiorra can just tank hollow purple with ease. 6) Barragan can also age time and slow things down around him, like gojo. So i think you should rethink this to he gets defeated at grimmjow or zommari.
ulquiorra is not the strongest espada whatsoever. he belongs firmly in rank 4 and espada rankings were also explicitly about killing ability, skills, and more.
I would argue grimmjow falls into the spiritual pressure negating limitless group cuz of kenpachi statement its infers he’s the strongest espada during thousand year blood war
@@rinnerebirth1171to be honest because of the fact At Best Gojo moves at the speed of light therefore his Infinity should also respond that fast I'd still say the Espada would be able to get past Infinity with ease in base to land hits. Lieutenants in the Soul Society Arc are moving that fast fairly comfortably and arguably 3rd - 4th Seats have that same speed at the lowest. Arrancars are leagues above light speed so they're easily blitzing him before he realizes anything. Then the fact that regular Menos Grande have the ability to distort time and Space in order to travel in between dimensions and the effects can be permanent if left alone. That's another way the Arrancars get past Infinity as they all are a combination of an unlimited amount of Hollows, Menos Grande, Vasto Lords and etc combined together to make 1 Espada
@@Dushray711 it’s still in character for him to deactivate it while fighting and the second he does he’s getting negged, even with it the espada have space distorting attacks which go through infinity, hell even a basic memos grande could literally tear a hole in space
I'm pretty sure hierro is a passive ability. It's literally just their skin being insanely durable. So, Gojo can't really turn it off even with infinite void. Gojo has no real way to pierce them.
So we just gonna ignore that the gran rey cero distorts space and all of the espada are said to be capable of using it. Or that the cero are said to be a spiritual light and light is known to be one of the things that bypasses infinity?
Ĺemme guess, "OH LIMITLESS IS STATED TO WORK AT AN ATOMIC LEVEL AND PHOTONS ARE LESS THAN AN ATOMIC LEVEL SO ALL LIGHT EVER BYPASSES" First off, no, it doesn't only manipulate space at an atomic level. It manipulates _cursed energy_ at an atomic level _to_ manipulate space, with nothing being stated about the level at which Gojo manipulates space. Secondly, he has already been shown to block sound with Infinity, both against Jogo (who was stated by Gojo himself to be blasting him with both fire _and_ sonic attacks) and when going to fight Sukuna (the students were talking and he had to actively let the sound of them talking go through Infinity to hear them). Soundwaves are... well, waves, and with waves having no mass at all, that means they are infinitely smaller than any particles. Thirdly, Gojo straight up has no reason to block natural light that only ever lets him see, it's not dangerous enough for Infinity to filter it out. If a light-based _attack_ was to be launched at him, it'd be treated _as_ an attack and thus slowed infinitely. I fully agree with the Gran Rey Cero part, it's just that people keep bringing up this stupid light argument and the only arguments they have in favor of it are "lol smaller than atoms" and... Gojo being able to see.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 The soundwaves argument is stupid in of itself because sonic waves travel through air. it's the air that the vibrations traveling through that would have done the damage and of course it was blocked by limitless so the sound argument doesn't mean anything because Gojo isn't just directly blocking sound he's more or less just blocking the air that the sound is using as a channel. If he was blocking raw sound waves, one he wouldn't know and two they wouldn't have done damage to the area behind him. In fact the series itself supports this because if the sound waves had no mass they wouldn't have done damage to the area behind gojo. So no he's not blocking raw soundwaves, he's blocking the air the soundwaves travel through and it just went around him. Same thing for the students, while having to let down his barrier to hear the students may sound impressive, you seem to forget how we even hear in the first place. The sound travels through the air and reaches our ears, the sound waves aren't just raw flying into our ears and allowing us to hear them. Gojo blocking out the sound is just him blocking out air. Once you know how hearing works you'd realize that him blocking out sound isn't all that impressive as you think it is. "Gojo has no reason to block the light he uses to see." Ok so that's just incorrect. For one IF he could he could have just filtered out his sight so he wouldn't have been affected by hanami's flowers. This is irrelevant if you say that the flowers are scent based but it's not confirmed either way, in fact the series seems to imply that the flowers are sight based more than scent based. So if they are sight based why didn't gojo just filter out the light from his eyes to not see them and not be affected by them? And it's not like he wouldn't know to do this either since the Six eyes basically tells Gojo how an ability works. Another thing that supports the light argument is the shadows argument because the shadows from the ten shadows have been shown to just bypass infinity and shadows are just projections of light being blocked by an object. If the limitless could truly block something that has no mass or form, how did the shadows from the ten shadows get through? A shadow is completely formless, it has no mass, nothing just like how you said sound waves were yet one went right through in the gojo vs sukuna fight.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 If you wish to know how sound works, there are tons of videos on youtube that explain it. I can't post any of em here because i think the channel owner blocked links from their comment section but some recommendations are "Propagation of sound" "Speed of sound and how does sound travel" and "Longitudinal wave"
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 I suggest you go on and look up the videos "Propagation of Sound" "Longitudinal wave" and "What is Sound? The Fundamental Science Behind Sound" to get an understanding of how sound works and how we hear sound to actually understand fully why Gojo "blocking" sound really doesn't mean anything. He isn't just blocking something that has no mass, he's blocking vibrated air particles.😂
The Grand rey Cero would cause his infinity to implode on itself, and pull Gojo into the AOE. If you look at when Grimmjow used it (while holding back) the sheer density from his cero caused space to start falling in on itself momentarily. That's from base Grimmjow so theoretically, a stronger hollow could likely do this to a higher extent. Even then, distorting infinity would leave Gojo exposed. @@thomasthecoolkid7228
How does Gojo hurt them in his domain? You said that Gojo would put them in there and kill them but how? He failed to do it even against Sukuna. It'll be like a normal human trying to beat up a titanium block. Its not happening.
I'd like to see Gojo vs the Sternritter. I'm just gonna say that there's no way he can beat Sternritter X but I'd like to hear opinions about the others
Tbf, Bambi slams and so do any of the Sternritter just because Reiatsu can overpower Hax as shown when Aizen did it against Soi Fon so with verse equalisation they should be able to somewhat overpower Infinity.
@@tymaddux2644 Gremmy for sure. He’s a walking cheat code who got defeated by his own imagination. He just needs to imagine modern weaponry that can bypass infinity and its done.
@@erthsda6758 And WITHOUT verse equalization, even normal humans from Bleach slam because they have reiatsu and Gojo doesn't have reiatsu and any reiatsu is infinitely more than no reiatsu 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 In all seriousness though, I'm honestly unsure of that. At least from what I recall, it's not a case of "I have 1% more reiatsu than you so everything you have is useless against me". Your reiatsu needs to be stupidly, _nigh-infinitely_ greater than whoever's trying to outhax you in order for those hax to not work. The only examples I can think of all have so much more reiatsu than their opponent, it's genuinely not even fair. I don't doubt they would probably be stronger, but I'm doubtful it'd be to the degree required to negate his hax.
Im sorry, no operator, I love ya, but this video aint it, lol. Gojo standing toe to toe to an espada is nothing but a wet dream when u sit down and really think about the feats some of the espadas basic attacks are capable off.
Grand Rey cero go brrrrrrrr But in all seriousness base hollows tear space like tissue paper gojo wouldn’t even get past regular Gillian or powerful regular hollows
The thing is that even if a character doesnt have a way to get past infinity, gojo will have to turn his infinity off in order to attack them, meaning if they are much faster than him then they could easily blitz and one tap him Also reiatsu neg 😅
@@sphera4147there is an “infinite space” between him and his opponent so he cant hit them physically, all he can do is use his cursed techniques when he has the infinity turned on
@@remus4283yeah, people have ignored this weakness for years. Honestly with the way domain amplification works I might argue that if a character concentrates their energy they could bypass infinity, but that is a massive stretch
Yeah uh... That's not how that works. Literally no where is it stated Gojo needs to turn Infinity off in order to attack. And if the argument is that he has infinite space there for he can't hit you, we see that's blatantly untrue in his first fight with Jogo. He touched Jogo's hand, and is able to effect Jogo, despite Jogo not being able to touch him. This is because Infinity doesn't just make an unlimited space it also slows everything down by half speed an infinite amount of times, as stated by Gojo himself. Gojo does not need to turn his barrier off to hurt people. This is also seen in a few arcs later when he does turn his barrier off, not because he had to, but because it was the only way to trick the curses. This is then once again seen when he turns his barrier back on, and then proceeded to Literally crush Hanami to death. I am not saying Gojo beats any of the Espada, but I will say you're just blatantly wrong about him having to turn it off and on.
First, we'll assume Gojo dosn't pass out from the sheer amount of spiritual energy all the espada have, even the weakest have that much spiritual pressure otherwise he wouldn't be an espada. Keep in mind espada > average vasto lorde = average captain, and we all know how enormous is the amount of spiritual pressure of those guys. The entire infinity dosen't let espadas touch Gojo is largely debatable as Descorrer (the ability to open the Garganta) is a litteral dimensionnal rift, meaning if they open just on GOjo they bypass Infinity. And Gran Rey Cero is spiritual light distorting space, infinity dosen't block light, so all cero hits and to counter the teleporting argument balla would do the trick, but if we say that by some miracle cero's can be blocked by Infinity then GRC by distorting space wouldn't abide by the infinite distance in between and rech Gojo instant win. We all agree on the fact that every espada outclass Gojo in all stats ( without talking about hax and intelligence) so things like 5 min to kill 1000 weaklings, few hundredths of a second all this is just childplay for (at base) FTL+ beings that espada are. So bacically, if we suppose espadas can break through Infinity they kill Gojo before he could launch his Domain, else they can escape at over 200m as it's his limit even few kilometers without breaking a sweat in a step : Domain Fail. If we suppose they got cought in his domain, humans with no powers survived in it because Gojo closed it after few hundredths and espadas have obviously (at base) over thousands of times they physical ability like information processing and to go on overload means the need of few hours I think at least (can Gojo enven hold his Domain for that long ?). An argument to back this would be that beings that can go at several times lightspeed should obviously process information faster than peaople caping at mach 10 (highball) so if Jogo could think for a moment after being caught it's normal for espada to not be instant stunt, furthermore the physical stunt stems from the overloading of the brain which I said shoud take a lot of time for espada. We also saw that domains create normally a barrier as a limit of the domain, if we generously say it's a pocket dimension (I don't think it makes sense but I highball it to be sure), the feats of Ichigo breaking a city size dimension by going bankai, Ulquiorra with caja negacion show that overwhelming reiatsu can crack open such dimensions making those domains useless. Now let's suppose that Gojo did traps an espada in his domain and overload his brain thus paralyzing said espada, the AP of Gojo in hand to hand is negated by the hierro fueled by the amount of reiatsu naturally oozing from the espada. Red is like an overboosted shô (Kido n°1, the weakest) so aside from sending it's body in all direction wouldn't do much, Blue generates an attrective force strong enough to tear buildings apart sadly for Gojo that's nowhere near enough to really damage an espada, thus letting only Purple. Purple is said to desintegrate whatever it touches, but Sukuna resisted to 200% one fairly well and we can all agree on, when I say physical stats-wise every espada slam Sukuna, wich imply they would survive too. Gojo do not have infinite CE just a lot and use it very efficiently making him unable to run out of yet spamming Domain and 200% Hollow Purple like that would surely at some point deplet his reserve, probably ending the domain and if assume brain overload dosen't equal death for beings that can regenarate the ex-imprisoned espada would win. To conclude, for me espadas just outclass him way too much for them to win, but beacause of his hax he might not be instantly swatted away by the lower espada, but honestly comparing Bleach verse characters to JJK verse is just utter nonesense, I mean the greatest achivement one can do is partial city destruction, call FB shikai Ichigo he would the same in one real getsuga.
@@emmanuelbikayi8586yes but it still rips a hole to wherever they want. This means even into thing like the dangai which is a bridge of literal layered time currents.
Yall are completely delusional to think any of them would get caught in domain expansion plus even if they get caught in it gojo has no means of killing them in anyway so it's basically simple 🤷 💀
Gran Rey Cero literally warps space time, you good bro? 💀 The amount of characters that have spatial hax in Bleach already... i mean a lot of them can just straight up open up dimensional rifts and create pocket dimensions. Not to mention, the idea of Gojo even touching anyone above fodder in Bleach is laughable. The lieutenants have light speed feats. Even a lower ranked seated officer should be hypersonic or sub relativistic. Beyond all, Barragan should be able to use respira to decay Gojo's infinity. Szayel has actual hax that Gojo won't be able to counter. Etc...
This is pretty goofy cause they would spam gran ray cero if they weren’t restricted so these fights wouldn’t even last a second warping space and time with a grand ray cero gets through infinity no problem gojo isn’t strong enough to even hurt these guys😂😂😂😂 Edit it’s also stated that EVERY hollow can distort space and time even the fodder hollows so the espada would have literally no problem getting through infinity if you see how they interact with basic hollows. The basic hollow instinctually know not to fw then and they can rip the fabrics of space so gojo stands no chance, these UA-camrs forgot about the first arcs of bleach in there video it’s kindof funny
I like how they just don’t mention Cero at all in this video. But I get it, they're trying to give Gojo a chance, make the video interesting. But uh, Cero distorts space, and the only thing stopping people from hitting Gojo is the infinite space between him and the attacker... Not to mention Cero are spiritual light, so they’d get through infinity either way. And even so, all of the Espada are so much stronger than Gojo, that they’d all neg his Infinity via the reiatsu gap.
Meanwhile, Ulquiorra in his base form destroyed an entire dimension and space. Aizen gave each Espada an entire dimension of its own, and Grimmjow tried to trap Ulquiorra in his own dimension so that he could fight against Ichigo. He thought that ulquiorra would be able to destroy it after a day or something like that, since he was an Espada, but Ulquiorra (base form)with his bare hands destroyed the entire dimension and surrounding space in about three hours without even using a single Cero. So gojo can't even be compared to the espada just because infinity , It is enough to know that Ichigo, the first time he gained the power of the Shinigami, fought Urahara and the hollow inside him forA whole week without stopping . This is Ichigo in the first 20 episodes. In terms of endurance and stamina there is no comparison between him and any espada ,as for speed ichigo dodge light attack in ep 13 or 14 from Menos then he got speed blitz by 20/100 shikai renji and he got a power up from zangetsu to make it equal then got speed blitz by base 20/100 byakuya This Ichigo is at least a hundred times slower than the weakest Espada in his base form , so there is not even a comparison between him and the weakest Espada in speed as for iq and biq he can take it for some of them but not all of them and that's it every thing else there is no comparison.
Some techniques the Espada have and a few while in Resurrección distort, sever or destroy spacetime. Specially true when you also consider Gran Rey Cero, that does it instantly. So, outside of hax wins against an Espada that can't do any of the above, the Espada win. And even then, Reiatsu pressure can be used to stun Gojo or outright kill him, since it permeates everything and can't be rejected by Infinity. Why kill? He would be considered by Bleach lore like that of a Fullbringer. A human with extras. A human fighting an Espada? The reiatsu difference is definitely a factor. Not to mention, how is Gojo gonna scale up to the weakest Espada if not by spamming Purple since it negates durability? The power diff is too much. Last but not least, bear in mind that in Bleach, reiatsu works like a hax AND antihax power system, meaning the stronger reiatsu can and will mitigate or nullify the hax of the weaker opponent. Something the curse energy power system under verse= does not have.
Yall might’ve watched bleach but didn’t actually pay attention. Humans can’t even be near weaker level espada. Their spiritual pressure alone will literally asphyxiate them. Gojo either stalemates or loses. Unless he explains infinity then he just loses. Gran ray cero should definitely distort infinity and Gojo won’t survive the explosion
The gauntlet ends in the first round cero and grand Rey cero go brrrr And gojo has no conceivable way to kill even the fish bowl domain expansion would not turn off hierro which is a passive always on ability and worst case it makes the the espada lose control overe their reiatsu having them go to max output dusting gojo
Wouldn't he technically be able to? It could surround Gojo and swallow him and infinity up since it has pretty small range. Although if it had to make physical contact with Gojo to analyze him then that might be a problem.
I think that ability wise, you guys understimate Harribel's ability, the ability to just manipulate water, it means she could manipulate the water that form part of the air... Which means she could either trap Gojo in a cage of water, or if this fails because the Infinity pushes the water that appears out, she could just make it that around that barrier the water doesn't pass by drawing from the water of that section and using it for attacks distracting him from the fact that she is slowly but sure chocking him to death.
He technically can have a lot of hax...but even so we never saw them since he got sneak stabbed to death. Death by cockiness. His glutonoria can absorb any ability of the opponent he consumes, so he has the potential to have god knows how many abilities. But alas all we see him do is like...shoot some water.
Isn’t a lot of this verse capable of bending or slashing space causally…hollows even at the weakest level Menos can tear thru dimensions or warp space..1-4 transforming would’ve had this same affect Grimmjows gran Rey cero or any espadas gran Rey cero makes it gojover
He could be completely still and they wouldn't be fast enough to hit him so idk why speed would matter. Sure maybe there are abilities that can somehow bypass infinity but at that point it's basically down to choice of whoever is making the argument or writing the fight.
If Gojo was a hero in the OPM verse, what rank would he be and which disaster level monster would he lose to? Another interesting debate would be putting Gojo in the Mashle verse, would he be a divine visionary? And in the world of mages and sorcery, would Gojo find his match there?
Hey, first of all thanks for the support!! Unfortunately I don't read OPM or Mashle, but it sounds like I might have to lmao I get a lot of recommendations. I'll keep this in mind and push them up my read list!! I love these gojo gauntlets they're fun (: I wanna do them eventually with most series if I can keep it up hahaha
Before watching, I'm just gonna say this. Reiatsu can negate hax as we saw when Aizen negged Soi Fon's shikai. If we equalized Reiatsu to be the same as let's say physical strength or AP, Gojo is not beating Espada 4 and above. Las Noches according to some calcs should have a diameter between 500 to 1000 km. So Las Noches is basically around the size of California or Myanmar. The Espada are forbidden to use Gran Rey Cero inside Las Noches because it has a possibility to destroy it (Grimmjow's base GRC warped the space in Las Noches and Halibel's Fracciones said that Grimmjow shouldn't use the technique inside Las Noches). Then there's Espada 4 and above who are not allowed to release their Zanpakuto inside Las Noches. So Espada 4 and above should be country level by releasing their Zanpakuto. And I'm not going to talk about R2 Ulquiorra who fought VL Ichigo (this version of the fight in the Hell Verse movie is the more canon version as Kubo said, but he didn't have the time)
I was gonna make a comment on how I disagree and what i believe was incorrect but that's like most of this comment section so I'm not gonna bother, but fun video no op, hope your having a good one
Even ignoring gran rey cero distorting space and likely ignoring infinity because of it (for anyone curious, the source is page 1 of chapter 282), the Espada are so obsecenely fast they could easily Sonido or even just run out of Infinite Void before the Barrier is finished forming, and with them being lightspeed minimum, would easily escape Gojo's .2 domain too since they would see the forming of the barrier. And (Major manga spoilers for any anime onlies reading Even with Gojo using RCT to recover his innate technique, he can only pop domain so many times before frying his domain, at which point the downtime from the fried brain and his technique recovery would likely lead either to Gojo's death or a draw from the Espada maybe not learning of the burnout, but chances are with their high BIQ (Excluding Yammy) and it having to be popped multiple times, they'd learn and take advantage of it.
soul society ichigo was above light speed and we arent even talking about his bankai, all captain level soul reapers are light speed and ichigo was able to beat many captains
The fact that Apollo's Vasto Lorde form was the strongest here is also crazy considering how weak he was without his Vasto Lorde form.
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I don’t understand how unlimited void will effect people who can process information at a higher rate than most jjk characters from most bleach characters perspective it will feel like what happened to pzlaparou again miyuri where everything is happening slowly at best more like a distraction bleach characters. I don’t see infinity playing a big part because I think it depends on atoms which which most bleach characters use reiatsu which doesn’t have atoms.
14:05 i dont really think this argument works, bc when those cursed spirits were hit with unlimited void, it was only for 0.2 seconds, and it still took long enough that all the transfigured humans died, and gojo got sealed, they were stunlocked for a good minute, so if the cursed spirits were hit for like more than 30 seconds, they would prob take a month to recover
I feel like this is having your cake and eating it too. If spiritual pressure can equate to cursed energy, everything gojo can do get's negated, if spiritual pressure has nothing to do with cursed energy, then Gojo just dies by standing next to anyone on par with a captain, which is practically this whole list.
I think gojo can at best draw some espada, and even if hit by domain expansion gojo cant kill them since them just standing and taking hits from gojo results into 0 damage, espadas are 10x times faster than light in base forms and with ressurecions they are 100times faster , so at best gojo draws them but he never wins, also espadas gran ray cero can bypass infinity since its 100x of times faster than light since it stacks with ressurecion and then cero on top of that so gojo loses against any espada but might be able to draw couple of them
Ceros being light and grand Rey cero being light and distorting space even base hollows tear space like tissue infinity isn’t doing shit he dies instantly in the first round
One thing to note: Starrk has infinite Reiatsu. If we use the Reiatsu rule here, then he kills Gojo just by standing there simply because he has enough Reiatsu to immediately fill Infinity.
something that is truly needed to think about is the spiritual pressure we've seen that if you don't have enough no attacks will work on you and you will get crushed by the other persons sp i think this is something that needs to be discussed
I think you guys are forgetting that Limitless is very much so limited by cursed energy capacity. In the video so far it seems you guys are considering Gojo has infinite cursed energy and can just negate everything forever. The more Limitless is used, the more Gojo's cursed energy is spent. He can absolutely be wiped in a battle of endurance against people like Nnoitra and Grimmjow who he can never one shot (especially Nnoitra, he was brawling with Zaraki of all people who has AP far above Gojo)
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 You are incorrect. Sukuna pushed Gojo to the point that he was almost out of CE. I'll say it again: Gojo fans only think he's unbeatable because they don't know how limitless ACTUALLY works. AND we also have proof that Gojo gets TIRED if forced to over exert himself. He. Cannot. Fight. Forever.
In regards to the Arrancar being "spiritual" sort of entities vs human beings, there are at the very least some similarities as far as bodily function goes. In Ulquiorra's final fight with Ichigo (when Zangetsu/White took over & he gained his Vasto Lorde hollow form), he states that due to all of the damage he had to endure while fighting that version of Ichigo that "he has lost vital organs that he can no longer regenerate". Despite "seemingly" being unaffected on a surface level, but he also says that (in the process of becoming an Espada) he forfeited his regeneration's effectiveness in favor of its speed, which coincidentally made it the fastest amongst all of the other Espada. Either way, my point was that despite him not even being remotely close to what a human being is, his body and its physical anatomy have to be at least somewhat similar, especially if his death was ultimately the result of having vital organs obliterated that he couldn't regenerate.
I feel like you could argue that, since Orihime's barriers alter reality, and even base Yammy gets through those with little issue, that any of the Espada could just punch straight through Limitless
Didn’t finish the vid and commenting my thoughts before watching. I’ll update if the vid makes me change my mind All of the Espada stomp Gojo. Even fodder hollows can bend/destroy space. Which is how they get from Hueco Mundo to the living world. It’s shown on panel that Gillains literally grab and break the fabric of space with their bare hands. So Espada tier hollows who can outright destroy (unknown sided) space time dimensions like Caja Negacion are negging Gojo’s infinity That’s not even taking into account the fact that superior stats negate hax in Bleach so infinity is useless. Worst case scenario if you wanna give the maximum benefit of a doubt, they blow through infinity with a Gran Rey Cero that has both spatial manipulation and the raw AP to overpower Gojo via Bleach logic Gojo doesn’t have the AP or durability to keep up with even Fraccion or Priveeon Espada as Fraccion have the stats to keep up with LT level and restrained Captain level Shinigami, and giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying him, Sukuna and Kashimo are Lightspeed or beyond from Kenjaku’s Black Hole reaction and Sukuna reacting to Kashimo’s EM waves, that puts Gojo on a similar speed tier to drained and exhausted LTs like Hisagi and Rangiku from the SS Arc Hollow Purple wouldn’t cut it as Sukuna could block it and they resist spatial based hax and subatomic hax via being able to resist Quincy absorption. Gojo’s is atomic based space hax And unlimited void is too slow to hit and even if it does their superior energy negates his hard. Gojo has no win cons
Sooooo Gojo can only win if we take away all of espadas speed, strength and natural healing abilities…. Cool. Yes Gojo has infinity but infinity has never been put through the damage output that it would take from the espada. I actually wonder what would happen if Gojo was placed in the deepest parts of the ocean. Would the outside pressure crush him within his own ability? Or would he have to provide a secondary barrier to push against his own barrier so that he doesn’t die. How much cursed energy would that take?
Would Gojo even be able to do major damage to the higher Espada after Unlimited Void? Im not sure how Hierro works, thats why im asking. I remember Yoruichi who is MUCH MUCH stronger than Gojo actually damaged herself when physically beating on Yami who was number 10 at that time. Also I though Cero f-ed with space or something, so how would that interact with Limitless
@@IqbalEvolusi Even if it was an infinite% Hollow Purple it'd still basically not exist for them cuz it's so weak🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 ...not sure if it _is_ that insane, but still
No, he'd be like a normal human wailing on a solid metal wall. Even hollow purple isn't strong enough to deal any damage to their Hierro excluding maybe Aarroniero because glass container.
Infinity gets negged even yhwach's Almighty didn't even recongnise being effected by kyoka and even when he realized it he couldn't break out of it gojo looks at aizen and he's done
Kyoka Suigetsu vastly out scales limitless, even Yhwach who thought he had broken Kyoka Suigetsu was still under Kyoka Suigetsu even with the Almighty, meaning every timeline & future he was seeing & every future he was picking in those moments were all under Kyoka Suigetsu. You could consider this a multiversal feat as each different timeline & future Yhwach was seeing & choosing was essentially being altered by Aizen. Kyoka Suigetsu has been shown to be the only ability to counter the Almighty & essentially bypass Almighty's ability to completely nullify another power against it. But just note that because Aizen became so much powerful than before, & how well he used Kyoka Suigetsu, Kyoka Suigetsu became just as powerful as well, remember that Shinigami & a Zanpakuto are two different souls but are essentially one.
@@Zalgardis That is posible,KS is perfect hypnosis it can make lava look like ice and mess around with evrything and the victim wouldn't even know it's under the effects
You can literally bypass infinity by putting your domain around yourself which, if we mixing the power systems that would be the resèureccion. Also when gojo uses de he can’t use his cursed technique, and there is no way he kills some of these espada with nothing but hands. And not to mention they have been alive for way longer than most jjk characters so they would have a much higher resistance to unlimited void.
i feal like if Mayuri knew about unlimited void, he would make that drug that he used on the pink headed guy, but better to withstand it for longer since it nigh-infinitely accelerates thought and perception speeds.
We also have to take into account the durability of these characters. Could Gojo's attacks actually deal any sort of damage that would be fatal? Even if he got off the domain.
one thing about reiatsu, is that is could simply be used to overwhelm gojo and his limitless, crushing his soul. As he is much weaker then them, the reiatsu of any decently strong espada would be deadly to gojo. And his limitless wouldn't necessarily be able to protect him from it either as it directly targets the soul.
side note for infinity but its not really a barrier so idk if zommaris eye thing would be stopped by it because dankus a tangible barrier where as infinity isnt still think gojo beats him btw, just a little heads up about it
You are wrong. Zomari defeats Gojo. Infinity only affects attacks that travel. This is why Gojo died the way he did. Attacks that directly apply themselves to the target are not stopped by infinity. Also Gojo does not have the damage output to kill ANY Espada. Lastly his domain would instantly shatter from captain level spiritual pressure.
@@remus4283 all im saying is that the barrier byakuya used isnt the same as infinity and i could see zommari getting past it with his eye control thing, i can see if you see zomari winning but i got gojo winning more if you want to rule that blinking ability out the world slash sukuna used traveled, it just cut through space and anything within said space (gojo, kashimo, etc) obviously none of his attacks could kill an espada thats why they explained DE as his biggest wincon
The Gran Ray Cero distorts space. Now, I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that infinity is useless against weapons or abilities that distort space... (Hint hint)
At this point we dont know what Hollow Purple does since Gege makes it seem like Space Dismantle can't be blocked but Purple can (with Sukuna's enhanced hands). Gege clarified that falling blosom and simple domain don't negate ct's so that probably means Sukuna tanked Purple with ce enhancement (I'm assuimg that's what his enhanced arms were that tanked 200% purple). With the explanation of Red and Blue, Purple should delete matter but now it seems likes its just an energy beam.
Gege nerfing purple for not one-shooting sukuna because he has to be the final villain is kinda infuriating, but y'know, Sukuna couldn't die there anyway@@kingofheroes1096
Nope, that was an assumption for a long, long time. Hollow Purple in fact is A LOT weaker the people though it would be, it is not reality erasure, functionally it is just a strong energy blast that can be defended against.
It's funny that Barragan also has the effect of slowing Soi Fon as she gets closer to him. Edit: "Gojo vs Aizen is something that may come later if you guys are interested." Aizen, seriously? When it's not certain Gojo would beat some of the lower-rank Espada, how would he beat someone who canonically is stronger than all of them together? Not to mention he was doing the whole psychological/planning thing before Gege had likely even conceived of Kenjaku, who himself used those tactics to beat Gojo. I like Gojo, but come on lol... even the lieutenant version of Aizen wins this
Gojo would not be able to do anything to them. If someone is stronger then their opponent the hax of the opponent are ignored or negated. A gran ray cero distorted space time. That alone is something that will one shot gojo. Also they are made of light. The more reiatsu the more powerful and faster. Also before doing verse battles please read the data books and info regarding bleach before doing this. Gojo literally gets curbed stomped by any of the 9 espada.
another detail yall glossed over. the Noveno Espada has a unique ability. he can transfer data about the battle he just had. and we see that with the Octava Espada Szayelaporro Granz, he filled his older brother Yylfordt Granz with his "Rokureichū" (録霊蟲, Spirit-Recording Bugs). these allowed him to collect battle data on Renji. so it's the same sorta thing. this allowed him to completely obliterate Renji's Bankai without even touching it. it just shattered, because Szayel was able to study it's reishi composition thanks to his Rokureichū. in other words, doing it gauntlet style is perfect for the Espada. a couple more reasons why Szayel he would be the perfect counter for Gojo. his "Hollow Purple" technique is very similar to a technique we saw used against him. "Cero Sincrético". performed by two separate characters, sure. but the idea is the same. and he split it apart. in theory, he should be able split the "Hollow Purple" into its constituent parts. thereby rendering it useless. i mean it would still blow up behind him. but it wouldn't damage him. yet another reason Szayel would be the perfect counter. we see his "Teatro de Titere" is able to completely envelope his opponent. and Gojo, despite his Infinity; is not immune to this form of attack. so i think it would work on him. and Szayel would be able to attack this tricky to hit bastard from the inside. thereby rendering his Infinity... useless. but for real this time. ultimately, Gojo gets hard countered by the Octava Espada. it's really unfair a matchup
Zomari and Baragan definitely no-diff Gojo because infinity does not counter their abilities. Zomari's ability is applied (has no travel time) and Baragan's Respira will age the cursed energy that manifests the limitless barrier (yes cursed energy decays, otherwise CE residuals wouldn't fade over time)
This has coughing baby vs. Hydrogen bomb vibes.
Fr. Gojo gets roflstomped. The espada are leagues above JJK rn.
@@wolf_from_beyond8282 If people are debating Part 1 Naruto vs JJK, who thinks they stand a chance against the mid-high tier bleach characters. 💀
Yeah Bleach is crazy
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 fr, its always funny to me when someone says the bleach verse is weak when its by far the strongest of the big 3
This is the thing. Gojo never beats the Espada. Best case scenario, he survives the Espada and is allowed to live another day
Something I would like to bring up is that the Hierro isnt an activated ability. It is a part of their biology and something always active. Arrancar just innately have harder skin than the other races in bleach.
As seen with Yammy, who literally couldn't reinforce himself because he couldn't judge his opponents' strength, busting up Yoruichi's limbs as she was hitting him. I dunno if even a Maximum Hollow Purple would do enough, honestly.
@@RealFirmament if you think about it, since hollow purple is simply imaginary mass that just destroys physical matter, it technically wouldnt even do anything to non-quincies since shinigami, hollows and arrancar dont physically exist
@@KLOTEROLEROTARhollows exist enough to do real physical damage to buildings and Rukia got kicked by Ichigo before he unlocked his powers, still in his physical body. I wouldn't say they don't physically exist at all.
@@RealFirmament Rukia was able to be kicked by Rukia by Ichigo because Ichigo had high spiritual pressure, even as a human. Also as stated in the Fullbringer arc, all structures within the bleach cosmology have souls, so that is likely why Hollows can damage them. As Hollow Purple is simply imaginary mass, it wouldn't have any spiritual power, even if we equalize verses, and would just do nothing to spiritual entities due to how it functions.
@@KLOTEROLEROTARFair. At the very least there seems to be multiple characters in bleach that believe physical power can overcome spiritual power, such as Giriko buffing himself up physically in order to try and fight kenpachi, or *Aizen* thinking that Ichigo sacrificed his reiatsu completely in favor of physical strength when he first grabbed him to remove him from Karakura Town. Aizen should be smart enough to know better if it wasn't a strong possibility, at least.
I see a lot of JJK kids that haven´t seen or read bleach trying to downplay the scaling of the universe. Bleach has the highest scaling out of the big 3 and even the naruto-verse negs JJK.
I love JJK it´s one of my favourite mangas, but people need to be realistic when comparing.
Debates like this are always funny because the fans of the older IP are kind of blinded. It's like when old school star wars fans say Luke is the best ever. It always gives off "my dad can beat up your dad" energy.
@@CC-of5xl Was anything in my statement wrong tho?
@boomer3494 yeah the "kids not reading or downplaying". Like alot of fans of longer standing IP this is basically you trying to end any conversation by discrediting anyone else as a child with no knowledge.
@@CC-of5xl I mean yes it could be interpreted as dismissive, but the issue lies in that there is also a nugget of truth to it.
@@CC-of5xlRey sucks
are we forgetting that if there's too much of a difference between spiritual pressure, the lower one will die?
Another thing, the espada are spiritual beings and can only be seen by those with spiritual energy in them, that mean that Gojo can't even see his opponent
@@Gignoberto_89 spiritual energy and cursed energy are basically same ,both allow you to see spiritual beings,gojo cant even stand up to soul society shikai ichigo
Spiritual pressure = cursed energy in this case. We know gojo has a TON of it so they cant kill each other with spiritual pressure. And since spiritual energy = cursed energy and gojo has a lot of it he can also see the espadas.
@@heirloom6397 grimmjow spiritual pressure might be already enough to outclass gojo cursed energy, negating gojo's abilities
@@willmayer5921 Im sorry but grimmjow's spiritual pressure isnt that strong enough to negate gojo's abilities. Grimjow hasnt done any feat that could be planetary or even continental. The best thing he was about to do was maybe not even considered city level feat and it was when he was about to rip the sky of the las nochas which is a fake sky created by Aizen. This makes him equal to aizen when it comes to spiritual pressure/cursed energy
This is one of those cases where I think most fights end up a draw. While the Espada might not be able to get past infinity, they out scale Gojo so much that he can't output enough power to really damage them. Even with domain expansion, his fastest release is 0.2 seconds but the Espada are casually light speed. They aren't getting caught by it realistically. I'm also not convinced that being in unlimited void would turn off the Espada's hierro, and even hollow purple isn't going to really bother the mid to upper ranks
0.2 seconds is the amount of time he had his domain activated, not the time it took to activate it. Bleach speed feats are so above JJK ones that they would be able to leave japan by the time Gojo says “domai…”.
Meanwhile weakest espadas warping dimension 😂😂😂
@@arpadszabo661 Bullshit, give us one example of them moving at such speed. Fucking Ichigo who is suppousedly light speed, wasn't able to catch Yhwach who escaped him in last anime cour, and Yhwach was at most 1km away from Ichigo at that moment. If he was truly light speed, he would catch him with no issue in 0.0000001 second.
Your scaling is fucking whack, those numbers you put out are inconsistent bullshit because characters who are supposedly light speed are not even capable of moving at such speed.
Bro no... They didn't mention Gran Rey Cero.
Gran Rey Cero can distort space... It's literally spatial distorting attack 💀.
I agree
I find it funny when people try to debate Aizen vs Gojo on Gojo's part when Shinigami Aizen (before he even fused with the Hogyoku) is literally stronger than the Espada in the Arrancar Arc combined together
Aizen could just make gojo turn off his infinity by tricking him that his infinity is still on
@@txicemiya1625 aizen's spiritual pressure neggs
@@txicemiya1625 no need to, even ignoring that his mere presence negs if he wants, he's made of spirit matter not physical matter, so he can just walk past infinity.
even if he doesn't, he can use kurohitsugi which is a literal black hole and bypass infinity.
Aizen was absolutely not stronger than the Espada in the Arrancar arc combined. MAYBE he could 1v1 Starrk, but Kyoka has very obvious weaknesses which Yamamoto abused. Starrk would absolutely gut him before Hogyoku and even Harribel has an okay chance of forcing a win. His power relies on manipulation of five senses but kyoka cannot hide its rieatsu signature.
That's ignoring the fact he's, at best, Harribel level with rieatsu and reiryoku. If we combine the top 3 Espada, it's a massacre.
@@MysticalArcane No, he was very much more powerful than the entire Espada combined. He effortlessly one shotted Harribel & made Baraggan bow to him. They cannot compare to his power, which is why they follow him. Starrk would also get power gapped hard, it's not even fair.
Wow, iv'e never seen a comment section in a vs video where almost all people have the same opinion. I'm blown away.
it’s honestly fax tho. most modern day shonen other than black clover or fire force don’t compete when it comes to power scaling. chainsawman, jjk, kaiju no 8, etc. mha, none of these verses consistently reach planetary and ftl feats
@@shahsaad3357
I know. But still, the fact that the whole comment secton speaks with one voice is something special. Especially when a series as misunderstood as bleach is involved...
Usually, there is always a part of the viewers that are against the conclusion of the video, regardless the things that were assumed or even proved in the video.
But not here. That's something i've never seen before.
What a troll video Gojo simply gets absolutely outscaled and deleted
You guys forgot a very important attack the Espada can use... Gran Rey Cero.
A Cero that can distort space... The Cero literally distorts space 💀.
I'm pretty sure they would rip through infinity with that not to mention they can open/send people to dimensions too like Garganta opening and Caja Negacion.
They’re just blatantly wanking gojo
They open portals and break out of dimensions. They can even fuck up the dangai which is a separate space time. What the fuck is infinity compared to that?
@Lilymacdonald-cc6gh they even open portals in space time. They could bypass it either way....hell they even break out of pocket dimensions and can fuck up the dangai if they wanted to which is a separate space time
@Lilymacdonald-cc6gh thank you for making sense bro
Head canon
Zommaris attack was blocked by a barrier because its a physical object obstructing his vision he cant place the marks on something he cant see, the infinity isnt a barrier in the same way it doesnt obscure vision so he could definitely mark and bet gojo
It isn't actually a physical barrier in the sense most think. Bakudo 81 Danku translates to "splitting void" so it is actually uncannily similar to Gojos ability in the way it functions as a partitioned void between two spaces. It could block zomaries ability because that was effectively where his line of sight ended (though the barrier seems to let light through on the other side, but filters out any harmful sprite energy on the other side.)
One thing I feel we gotta stress is that Sukuna survived both Hollow Purple with only a missing hand and some battle damage 😅. The espada definitely are taking that and more.
Domain amplification creates a space where enemy attack is poured into. That's why he said he easily tanked 200% hollow purple but was worried that mere 120% will kill him. He didn't physical tank it. He used hax.
base ss ichigo eclipses every character in JJK in Raw durability. No one relevant in Bleach is dying to Hollow Purple. 🤣@@Greatibekwe
It was really weird that he survived the HP in the first place by just tanking it
@@sosa8549 To be honest, I don't know why you're telling me this. Are you mistaking me for someone else you were arguing with or something. I don't understand 🤨.
he lost his arms not just a hand, it only looked like just a hand because he was already undergoing healing
Bleach completely stomps JJK verse. I compare it to Gojo vs Darkness Devil, and I have two very strong cannon reasons why; 1) when ichigo attacks Kenpachi Zaraki in the soul society arc, ichigo takes damage leaving no mark on Kenpachi because he had lower spiritual pressure/spiritual energy. Everyone in JJK verse doesn't have NEARLY the level of energy. 2) Yamamoto's spiritual pressure caused nanao to be paralyzed and unable to breathe do to the sheer overwhelming quantity of spiritual pressure. This isn't him exerting his pressure, thus causing it to be "harmful", it's treated like a natural phenomenon like gravity.
Thus, Gojo would 1) take all the damage and deal none and 2) be overwhelmingly dominated by the spiritual pressure of any of the Espada.
@@matu5619😹😹😹
If you're going to argue spiritual energy how would you even know what level the JJK characters would have if it's not even a thing in JJK?
@@matu5619 The USA consumed a total of 97.33 quadrillion Btu in 2021, which a single Btu being equal to 1.055e+18 J so:
97.33*1.055e+18J= 1.0268315e+20 J
That's assuming an entire year. now take power of 2 for black flash and you get 1.05438293e40 J.
1.81e+30J to 6.906e+37J is planet level, 2.277e+45J to 2.008e+57J is solar system level.
so your number is a low ball on how long he could power the USA, but even when you use the year estimate he's still not universe scale, and not galaxy or solar system size neither. he is definitely within planet scale levels even being extremely over the top giving him a year estimate for a feat that probably only meant a few days. I get what your saying though, playing by JJK rules the shear amount of their energies gets them nothing, no resistance, no pressure either. the thing however is this, how do we get these people to fight in the first place? we need some neutral ground where both power systems work as intended if we do this Gojo would be effected by the above abilities while having to constantly fight against not only their real attacks but also their pressure as well which at the least would force him to infinity constantly. I agree with the video that most just wouldn't have a chance against Gojo just because of his technique being broken.
@@CC-of5xl even if we verse equalize and say both verses have reiatsu, the espada still have a larger pool of it.
@@matu5619 Boring? He's not solar system level brody. He tried his best in fighting sukuna and he barely destroyed a couple of buildings...meaning that statement was either hyperbole or a plot hole
In verse gojo might not be carried by his limitless but out of jjk he certainly is
The problem is No Operator has not clue how the power system in Bleach actually works. Gran Rey Cero is so dense, it distorts Space, it would simply distort and bypass Infinity. Gojo gets low diffed by every Espada. This video is simply non factual trash.
@@zigazdovc6175 Nothing here is factual you fking moron. Those are all fictional characters with fictional power systems that are inconsistent as fuck as nobody in this world is capable of writing consistent power system, JJK is close to that goal but is still not there, not to mention that piece of shit of an anime called Bleach that has power scaling that is all over the place.
Secondly "distorting space" doesn't mean it can distort infinite space. Uro's CT also distorts and bends space, but that CT is not capable of doing it on infinite scale, therefore it is inefficient against Infinity.
So for the love of God, shut the fk up you uneducated twats about shit you don't understand.
@@zigazdovc6175uro technique sky manipulation also distort space and manipulate it still it ain't getting pass limitless.
Anything mass or density is definatlely not getting pass infinity.
Wrong JJK dick rider, Sky Manipulation and Gran Rey Cero are not the same things. Gran Rey Cero would simply bypass Infinity similar to how Sukuna does it with his World Slash. As Infinity exists in Space, it would be warped away from Gojo, allowing the Cero to hit Gojo with it. Gojo is toast.@@user-ww9ww1pp2u
@@user-ww9ww1pp2uwe never saw them interacting ur headcanoning
Bro. They can literally bust out of dimensions with ease. Theyre literally open fucking portals and bust time spaces like the dangai. Infinity is not stopping their level of spacial manipulation.
the interesting thing about Gojo is the boy has a "99% of everything immune shield." and asking who the 1% are
He’s shedninja but he just folded by everyone in the espada
@@logandelaharpe6362
Well, yeah. The Espada are all Ghost Types!
Even orihime claps him 😂
@@rahulwagh100 How? She isn't strong enough to bypass Infinity, and Gojo has significant combat experience. I'm not saying he can defeat the strong Bleach characters, but he can definitely beat her with his Infinity and Unlimited Void.
@@Noname-u5h9e her power is to be able to reject anything even reality if i remember
*Gojo twisting his fingers and staring menacingly*
Ulquiorra: So… what’s your ability?
That really the tenth that would be in situation before bypassing infinity with grand Rey cero
JJK fans are vastly overrating the power of the verse. A standard Gillian could easily kill everyone. An espada would make it look like a cake walk. Stop comparing to Bleach.
Who is comparing bleach to jjk??
@@SinnarattygangHave you even read the title of the video?
@@propdynamic4069 yes i see the title but i was asking you a question
@@propdynamic4069 everyone know bleach --->>> jjk verse
@@SinnarattygangYou make no sense. The whole point of my comment is that Bleach is way too strong to even compare it to JJK. This whole video makes no sense since a simple Gillian can cakewalk the JJK verse. These fools in the video trying to rationalize something that makes no sense at all.
Menos grande casually rip through space with their dimension techniques. Espadas can do the same and can rip space with Gran Rey Cero. Also, Sukuna tanked hollow purple twice with only missing arms. The espadas hierro will tank it with ease. Gojo's best win condition is domain expansion.
Domain Expansion would not be able to contain captain level riatsu and would instantly shatter. Even a lieutenant's passive riatsu poses danger to a country.
DE is useless too ,Bleach mfs casually blow up dimensions with Stars within them. Shit Hado 90 prob negs Gojo's whole arsenal.
@@sosa8549 true, just wanted to give him a win condition 😂
@@NEONlights-lb8um Ik it’s still interesting seeing and hearing arguments regarding how Gojo interacts with Bleach characters.
they can just open any domain barrier, even basic hollow can tear curtains of sky
Barragan is a hard counter to Gojo, being able to age and decay Kido which is essentially just spiritual energy I think he has the ability to decay infinitely because it’s made up of cursed energy.
Yes. Finally someone with sense. Zomari is also a hard counter. I would also argue a fast enough attack would bypass infinity, but I know Gojo fanboys are gonna be mad at that.
And wouldn't his aging attack just bypass infinity and directly affect Gojo
i haven’t watched the vid yet but i pray they said something like this
and his decaying is infectious
all of them are since all of them outclass gojo
NAH, the Gojo glazing is INSANE! That man Gojo caps at island in AP and mach 3 in speed, what can he do? Spam his Domain? When he gets perception blitzed? One Gran Rey Cero with it spac-distortion quality would tore through Infinity and anihilate him and Caja Negacion will trap him forever. Espada takes it No Diff.
While I can’t confirm that they distort space-time.
I do know that Cero is stated to be Spiritual LIGHT!! Infinity can’t stop light.
Any hollow that can use Cero can one shot Gojo. Heck I’m pretty sure even Bala one taps Gojo.
The bleach verse can clap Gojo.
@@wildstorm3486 bala is easier one tap since a bala from an espada is way stronger than a cero from an adjuchas.
@@wildstorm3486your delusional saying infinity can’t stop light if it travels then infinity stops it only speed that can get through infinity is infinite speed or 4d capabilities stop spreading false statements to fit ur agenda
your right but capping gojo at mach 3 is insane downplay 😭
As much as i love Jjk, i have to admit that Jjk does not scale that high as far as destruction capabilities. Satoru strongest attack a 200% hollow purple destroyed a couple of city blocks. It is the exact same situation for Sukuna. The 2 strongest are barely destroying half a city 🤦🏿♂️ the entire jjk verse is cooked against 95% of shonen.
Yup, at most jjk is city level
How about putting jjk up against another Bleach group. The Sterinritter, the quincy have interesting and unique abilities that could make for intresting discussion. Love the work keep it up 🙏
Aye that's a great idea! Thank you so much for the support and I sincerely appreciate you watching 🙏🏾
@@NoOperator 14:45 that wouldn’t even damage grimjow the meat riding is insane
Nah dawg that's not fair 💀.
You got guys who can send him to space, wish him dead, 1 shot instantaneous attacks, uno reverse him and other insane Hax.
Maybe leave out Gremmy and the Elites.
Askin can kill him too if he interacts with any of his curse techniques or just poison the air he breathes 💀.
Only character that he could kill in Elites is Pernida... And that's IF we're using pre-Kenpachi Pernida.
He absorbed Kenpachi's power so he should also have spatial Hax(not talking him cutting Vacuum of space in Tybw. In Safwy Kenpachi cut a hole in Dangai and fractured a small part of the Garganta).
@@philipcarey3213 Those are topics that could be discussed in the video.
@@kaiokentimes00 valid
All these characters just negate limitless with their raw spiritual pressure. Gojo at best is city level all these espada are Country-Multi Continent busters. Also there is absolutely no way Gojo can even perceive the speeds the Espada can move in even in base. Let alone catch them in a domain.
@@romusa10 he is city level. Maximum 200% output hollow purple barely destroyed a city, he's being nice putting him at city level.
@@io913 I doubt he's destroying a major city with the hollow purple from 235, it barely destroyed a few buildings and a decent sized apartment.
@@sosa8549 shibuya is not major city tho,hhahah
Gran Rey Cero also distorts space. Infinite likely would just get ignored
Few things wrong,
1) The espada ranking has been debunked by kubo, he stated they are based on the numbers that represent aspects of death, the question asked
Q. "Is the form of death (aspect) ruled by the ten blades the same for different people, as long as they have the same num Harribel and Nelliel? If it's different, l'd like to know what it was like when Nelliel had ten blades!
A553. It's the same. Nelliel is also a "sacrifice."
Meaning the aspects are ordered 0-9 and never change, only the person who holds the number changes. So luppi as rank 6 was weaker than grimmjow since grimmjow one shot him, so why wasnt grimmjow moved down to rank 7 since we know hes above zommari because released grimmjow is almost relative to bankai masked ichigo and zommari was much weaker than bankai byakuya who is below bankai masked ichigo, or why wasnt zommari moved to rank 6 when luppi is clearly weaker than him and luppi rank 7, its because the espada can only be a specific aspect because it relates to their personality and they can compete with other candidates. So the aspects within themselves are ranked such that halibel would have to fight nel for the true rank 3 (sacrifce) holder since the numbers represent aspects and not power, nel can only be at rank 3 because she only or mainly represents sacrifice. This means ulquiorra who is the strongest espada, cannot be rank 1 or any other because he doesnt represent loneliness or the other aspects. This also makes sense since ulquiorra couldnt one shot grimmjow and even had his attack negated who was 2 ranks below him yet grimmjow could one shot luppi while at the same rank yet ulq couldnt while being 2 ranks above grimmjow. So the espada are not ranked by power but by aspects, further proof is yammy in 0 form having his balas and punch blocked by half bankai ichigo, while full bankai masked ichigo couldnt even see 1st release ulquiorra, block his attacks or damage him, Infact he nearly died from one attack. Yet he can tank the supposed strongest espada in half bankai, clearly they arent ranked by power.
Which is why the number 3 espada is always sacrifice, dordoni was number 3, he was sacrifice, nel was number 3, also sacrifice, and the same for halibel. He confirmed this is how they are ranked in a klub outside question, he essentially retconned the espada. So from feats its ulquiorra and barragan who are the strongest.
2) The gran rey cero warps space and thus time, gojo applies infinity to space within his range/influence, only looks to be a metre extending omni directionally around him. Gojo isn't actually creating an infinite space but continuosly halving the speed of anything within the range so it never reaches him, ofcourse it doesnt have to be halved, any fraction will do so long as its continous. If we talk mathematically, his body is the integer 1 and the outer layer of his infinity influence is 2. When something at a any given speed hits the infinity barrier it begins being divided by a fraction in a series, so 15m/s / 2. But he has to do this faster than the object can travel within the distance it is from. Say his outer barrier (2) is 1 metre away from his body (1), a object coming at him at 15m/s that is halved will be 7.5m/s and if he halved it in 100ms, then the object traveled 1.5 metres, which means it went 0.5 metres past gojo or through him. So he has to be dividing it much faster than it moves or he can choose how much he divides it by, we also know he cant do this infinitetly as that would require infinite energy. But because the gran rey cero warps space inwards from its explosion area as we see in the manga with the light bending inwards form the clouds which is why they look distorted (gravitational lensing), this would mean the space around him hes applied infinity too will be pulled towards the gran rey cero, which means his barrier is now compromised instantly, meaning he will be damaged by the explosion and likely die.
3) domains can also be broken by cursed energy, since most of the espada (6 and lower) are stronger than him and can produce so much energy just by transforming or screaming and since they can release reiatsu as a pressure wave it would likely break the domain. Reiatsu also naturally leaves the body, kenpachi when fighting shikai ichigo actually blocked his attack with his subconciously leaking reiatsu as he states.
3.5) You brough this up, that they can break through space with spirit energy/spiritual pressure, ulquiorra broke out of aizens caja de negacion dimension and TLA arc ichigo broke out of yukios dimension considered to be unbreakable just by going bankai. Which means spirit energy can effect space and thus time, since they are a continuum. Which means casual spiritual energy/pressure and attacks of atleast above base ulquiorras level should warp space and thus negate infinity/expose gojo to being damaged so to speak.
4) the caja de negacion wraps you in space itself and takes you to another dimension. Gojos infinity cannot bypass space, only things/objects/energy in motion, not space itself since that would contradict his own power and it would collapse in on itself.
5) If they are in his domain and it works somewhat like it does on cursed spirits but less so as they are in another league, he physically cannot rip their head off since their durability and skin is much harder due to hierro which is just spirit energy in their skin/body reinforcing it. Everyone in bleach has this passively and its greater when focused, he'd have to use hollow purple but i doubt it would harm the stronger ones like grimmjow and above, hollow purple does erase from existence i believe but so does the hado haien as stated in the manga/anime and guide book, while this works on grimmjows cut off arm, orihime is able to negate the erasure, later she is seen struggling to negate base ulquiorras spirit energy and physical damage on ichigo (the whole in his chest) and even later she cant negate 2nd release ulquiorras cero oscuras damage which means its above existence erasure or that existence erasure has a potency level in bleach and it scales to reiatsu/reiryoku which makes more sense, which would mean espads like ulquiorra can just tank hollow purple with ease.
6) Barragan can also age time and slow things down around him, like gojo.
So i think you should rethink this to he gets defeated at grimmjow or zommari.
He gets beat by the tenth espada all espada can use grand Rey cero
Which distorts space
This is comment is spectacular
ulquiorra is not the strongest espada whatsoever. he belongs firmly in rank 4 and espada rankings were also explicitly about killing ability, skills, and more.
@@MysticalArcane keep coping kid
@@MrDeclareWar sorry that ulquiorra isn't even close to the strongest lol
I would argue grimmjow falls into the spiritual pressure negating limitless group cuz of kenpachi statement its infers he’s the strongest espada during thousand year blood war
Also, gojo deactivates infinity to throw hands, and they’re blitzing him the second he does that
@@rinnerebirth1171to be honest because of the fact At Best Gojo moves at the speed of light therefore his Infinity should also respond that fast I'd still say the Espada would be able to get past Infinity with ease in base to land hits. Lieutenants in the Soul Society Arc are moving that fast fairly comfortably and arguably 3rd - 4th Seats have that same speed at the lowest. Arrancars are leagues above light speed so they're easily blitzing him before he realizes anything.
Then the fact that regular Menos Grande have the ability to distort time and Space in order to travel in between dimensions and the effects can be permanent if left alone. That's another way the Arrancars get past Infinity as they all are a combination of an unlimited amount of Hollows, Menos Grande, Vasto Lords and etc combined together to make 1 Espada
I think it more has to do with Harribel and Nel lacking bloodlust rather than him being stronger, but agreed with the rest
@rinnerebirth1171 but he doesn't have to he can just punch you with the infinity on since it can push you
@@Dushray711 it’s still in character for him to deactivate it while fighting and the second he does he’s getting negged, even with it the espada have space distorting attacks which go through infinity, hell even a basic memos grande could literally tear a hole in space
I'm pretty sure hierro is a passive ability. It's literally just their skin being insanely durable. So, Gojo can't really turn it off even with infinite void. Gojo has no real way to pierce them.
So we just gonna ignore that the gran rey cero distorts space and all of the espada are said to be capable of using it.
Or that the cero are said to be a spiritual light and light is known to be one of the things that bypasses infinity?
Ĺemme guess, "OH LIMITLESS IS STATED TO WORK AT AN ATOMIC LEVEL AND PHOTONS ARE LESS THAN AN ATOMIC LEVEL SO ALL LIGHT EVER BYPASSES"
First off, no, it doesn't only manipulate space at an atomic level. It manipulates _cursed energy_ at an atomic level _to_ manipulate space, with nothing being stated about the level at which Gojo manipulates space. Secondly, he has already been shown to block sound with Infinity, both against Jogo (who was stated by Gojo himself to be blasting him with both fire _and_ sonic attacks) and when going to fight Sukuna (the students were talking and he had to actively let the sound of them talking go through Infinity to hear them). Soundwaves are... well, waves, and with waves having no mass at all, that means they are infinitely smaller than any particles. Thirdly, Gojo straight up has no reason to block natural light that only ever lets him see, it's not dangerous enough for Infinity to filter it out. If a light-based _attack_ was to be launched at him, it'd be treated _as_ an attack and thus slowed infinitely.
I fully agree with the Gran Rey Cero part, it's just that people keep bringing up this stupid light argument and the only arguments they have in favor of it are "lol smaller than atoms" and... Gojo being able to see.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 The soundwaves argument is stupid in of itself because sonic waves travel through air. it's the air that the vibrations traveling through that would have done the damage and of course it was blocked by limitless so the sound argument doesn't mean anything because Gojo isn't just directly blocking sound he's more or less just blocking the air that the sound is using as a channel. If he was blocking raw sound waves, one he wouldn't know and two they wouldn't have done damage to the area behind him.
In fact the series itself supports this because if the sound waves had no mass they wouldn't have done damage to the area behind gojo. So no he's not blocking raw soundwaves, he's blocking the air the soundwaves travel through and it just went around him.
Same thing for the students, while having to let down his barrier to hear the students may sound impressive, you seem to forget how we even hear in the first place. The sound travels through the air and reaches our ears, the sound waves aren't just raw flying into our ears and allowing us to hear them. Gojo blocking out the sound is just him blocking out air. Once you know how hearing works you'd realize that him blocking out sound isn't all that impressive as you think it is.
"Gojo has no reason to block the light he uses to see." Ok so that's just incorrect. For one IF he could he could have just filtered out his sight so he wouldn't have been affected by hanami's flowers. This is irrelevant if you say that the flowers are scent based but it's not confirmed either way, in fact the series seems to imply that the flowers are sight based more than scent based. So if they are sight based why didn't gojo just filter out the light from his eyes to not see them and not be affected by them? And it's not like he wouldn't know to do this either since the Six eyes basically tells Gojo how an ability works.
Another thing that supports the light argument is the shadows argument because the shadows from the ten shadows have been shown to just bypass infinity and shadows are just projections of light being blocked by an object. If the limitless could truly block something that has no mass or form, how did the shadows from the ten shadows get through? A shadow is completely formless, it has no mass, nothing just like how you said sound waves were yet one went right through in the gojo vs sukuna fight.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 If you wish to know how sound works, there are tons of videos on youtube that explain it. I can't post any of em here because i think the channel owner blocked links from their comment section but some recommendations are
"Propagation of sound"
"Speed of sound and how does sound travel"
and "Longitudinal wave"
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 I suggest you go on and look up the videos "Propagation of Sound" "Longitudinal wave" and "What is Sound? The Fundamental Science Behind Sound" to get an understanding of how sound works and how we hear sound to actually understand fully why Gojo "blocking" sound really doesn't mean anything. He isn't just blocking something that has no mass, he's blocking vibrated air particles.😂
The Grand rey Cero would cause his infinity to implode on itself, and pull Gojo into the AOE. If you look at when Grimmjow used it (while holding back) the sheer density from his cero caused space to start falling in on itself momentarily. That's from base Grimmjow so theoretically, a stronger hollow could likely do this to a higher extent. Even then, distorting infinity would leave Gojo exposed. @@thomasthecoolkid7228
How does Gojo hurt them in his domain? You said that Gojo would put them in there and kill them but how? He failed to do it even against Sukuna. It'll be like a normal human trying to beat up a titanium block. Its not happening.
Clearly by the power of their combined gojo wank.
He'd have to keep them in there indefinitely lol. He basically sealed himself inside his own domain by fighting an espada.
can’t he just do a hollow purple, doesn’t hollow purple just delete matter? bleach characters are made out of matter
@@en20drayt87if Sukuna can tank a hollow purple then 95% of the bleach verse could as well
@@en20drayt87 every single one of Espada is spirit will be they are not made of matter and a Gran Ray cero distorts space so he coooooked
I'd like to see Gojo vs the Sternritter. I'm just gonna say that there's no way he can beat Sternritter X but I'd like to hear opinions about the others
yeah lille barro would smoke him. i think gerard could get the job done, gremmy for sure and my boy with the death dealling
Bassically everyone who is an elite level sternritter besides Pernidas. Also Gremmy would be able to low diff Gojo.
Tbf, Bambi slams and so do any of the Sternritter just because Reiatsu can overpower Hax as shown when Aizen did it against Soi Fon so with verse equalisation they should be able to somewhat overpower Infinity.
@@tymaddux2644 Gremmy for sure. He’s a walking cheat code who got defeated by his own imagination. He just needs to imagine modern weaponry that can bypass infinity and its done.
@@erthsda6758 And WITHOUT verse equalization, even normal humans from Bleach slam because they have reiatsu and Gojo doesn't have reiatsu and any reiatsu is infinitely more than no reiatsu 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
In all seriousness though, I'm honestly unsure of that. At least from what I recall, it's not a case of "I have 1% more reiatsu than you so everything you have is useless against me". Your reiatsu needs to be stupidly, _nigh-infinitely_ greater than whoever's trying to outhax you in order for those hax to not work. The only examples I can think of all have so much more reiatsu than their opponent, it's genuinely not even fair. I don't doubt they would probably be stronger, but I'm doubtful it'd be to the degree required to negate his hax.
I love the way Kubo names characters lmao
Name one you cant spell
Ong how did he get names like grimmjow, ulquiorra, barragan and neliel? You shouldn't be able to make names sound THIS hard.
@@Gritt_1 bruh, foreign names sounds weird to every one. But it doesn't mean they are hard to the natives.
@@crng_8435 try and tell me that Barragan doesnt go hard.
@@usernameig975 ofc , german names go real hard. ( sorry if they are not german :) )
Im sorry, no operator, I love ya, but this video aint it, lol. Gojo standing toe to toe to an espada is nothing but a wet dream when u sit down and really think about the feats some of the espadas basic attacks are capable off.
Grand Rey cero go brrrrrrrr
But in all seriousness base hollows tear space like tissue paper gojo wouldn’t even get past regular Gillian or powerful regular hollows
The thing is that even if a character doesnt have a way to get past infinity, gojo will have to turn his infinity off in order to attack them, meaning if they are much faster than him then they could easily blitz and one tap him
Also reiatsu neg 😅
Gojo needs to turn off infinitely to attack? When was that stated?
@@sphera4147there is an “infinite space” between him and his opponent so he cant hit them physically, all he can do is use his cursed techniques when he has the infinity turned on
@@ningnings_world This is why Gojo fans think he's unbeatable. They don't know how his technique works.
@@remus4283yeah, people have ignored this weakness for years. Honestly with the way domain amplification works I might argue that if a character concentrates their energy they could bypass infinity, but that is a massive stretch
Yeah uh... That's not how that works.
Literally no where is it stated Gojo needs to turn Infinity off in order to attack. And if the argument is that he has infinite space there for he can't hit you, we see that's blatantly untrue in his first fight with Jogo.
He touched Jogo's hand, and is able to effect Jogo, despite Jogo not being able to touch him. This is because Infinity doesn't just make an unlimited space it also slows everything down by half speed an infinite amount of times, as stated by Gojo himself.
Gojo does not need to turn his barrier off to hurt people. This is also seen in a few arcs later when he does turn his barrier off, not because he had to, but because it was the only way to trick the curses. This is then once again seen when he turns his barrier back on, and then proceeded to Literally crush Hanami to death.
I am not saying Gojo beats any of the Espada, but I will say you're just blatantly wrong about him having to turn it off and on.
First, we'll assume Gojo dosn't pass out from the sheer amount of spiritual energy all the espada have, even the weakest have that much spiritual pressure otherwise he wouldn't be an espada. Keep in mind espada > average vasto lorde = average captain, and we all know how enormous is the amount of spiritual pressure of those guys.
The entire infinity dosen't let espadas touch Gojo is largely debatable as Descorrer (the ability to open the Garganta) is a litteral dimensionnal rift, meaning if they open just on GOjo they bypass Infinity. And Gran Rey Cero is spiritual light distorting space, infinity dosen't block light, so all cero hits and to counter the teleporting argument balla would do the trick, but if we say that by some miracle cero's can be blocked by Infinity then GRC by distorting space wouldn't abide by the infinite distance in between and rech Gojo instant win.
We all agree on the fact that every espada outclass Gojo in all stats ( without talking about hax and intelligence) so things like 5 min to kill 1000 weaklings, few hundredths of a second all this is just childplay for (at base) FTL+ beings that espada are. So bacically, if we suppose espadas can break through Infinity they kill Gojo before he could launch his Domain, else they can escape at over 200m as it's his limit even few kilometers without breaking a sweat in a step : Domain Fail.
If we suppose they got cought in his domain, humans with no powers survived in it because Gojo closed it after few hundredths and espadas have obviously (at base) over thousands of times they physical ability like information processing and to go on overload means the need of few hours I think at least (can Gojo enven hold his Domain for that long ?). An argument to back this would be that beings that can go at several times lightspeed should obviously process information faster than peaople caping at mach 10 (highball) so if Jogo could think for a moment after being caught it's normal for espada to not be instant stunt, furthermore the physical stunt stems from the overloading of the brain which I said shoud take a lot of time for espada.
We also saw that domains create normally a barrier as a limit of the domain, if we generously say it's a pocket dimension (I don't think it makes sense but I highball it to be sure), the feats of Ichigo breaking a city size dimension by going bankai, Ulquiorra with caja negacion show that overwhelming reiatsu can crack open such dimensions making those domains useless.
Now let's suppose that Gojo did traps an espada in his domain and overload his brain thus paralyzing said espada, the AP of Gojo in hand to hand is negated by the hierro fueled by the amount of reiatsu naturally oozing from the espada. Red is like an overboosted shô (Kido n°1, the weakest) so aside from sending it's body in all direction wouldn't do much, Blue generates an attrective force strong enough to tear buildings apart sadly for Gojo that's nowhere near enough to really damage an espada, thus letting only Purple. Purple is said to desintegrate whatever it touches, but Sukuna resisted to 200% one fairly well and we can all agree on, when I say physical stats-wise every espada slam Sukuna, wich imply they would survive too.
Gojo do not have infinite CE just a lot and use it very efficiently making him unable to run out of yet spamming Domain and 200% Hollow Purple like that would surely at some point deplet his reserve, probably ending the domain and if assume brain overload dosen't equal death for beings that can regenarate the ex-imprisoned espada would win.
To conclude, for me espadas just outclass him way too much for them to win, but beacause of his hax he might not be instantly swatted away by the lower espada, but honestly comparing Bleach verse characters to JJK verse is just utter nonesense, I mean the greatest achivement one can do is partial city destruction, call FB shikai Ichigo he would the same in one real getsuga.
Barragon doesn’t have a brain so not even UV would work. He's just a skelleton 😂
None of them have cursed energy so UV does nothing
Barragan has essentially stronger infinity. Gojo is dead.
@@Valata9 instead of can't touch, it's: sure you can touch him, but you'd rot in seconds
Gillian's can rip holes in dimensions with their bare hands, and there still people who think gojo can beat anything above a Gillian. 😂
Yea I was thinking that too when they gave it to Ulquiorra but not Aaroniero, Szayelaporro, Zommari, Nnoitra, and Coyote which catch me off guard.
No operator and Ronin glaze gojo to infinity (pun intended) so it’s impressive some even won
isn't it a technic to move from the wekomundo to human world and visvers. I don't remember it being use to attack somone
@@emmanuelbikayi8586yes but it still rips a hole to wherever they want. This means even into thing like the dangai which is a bridge of literal layered time currents.
To bad Gillian doesn't have hands
Yall are completely delusional to think any of them would get caught in domain expansion plus even if they get caught in it gojo has no means of killing them in anyway so it's basically simple 🤷 💀
Gran Rey Cero literally warps space time, you good bro? 💀
The amount of characters that have spatial hax in Bleach already... i mean a lot of them can just straight up open up dimensional rifts and create pocket dimensions.
Not to mention, the idea of Gojo even touching anyone above fodder in Bleach is laughable. The lieutenants have light speed feats. Even a lower ranked seated officer should be hypersonic or sub relativistic.
Beyond all, Barragan should be able to use respira to decay Gojo's infinity. Szayel has actual hax that Gojo won't be able to counter. Etc...
This is pretty goofy cause they would spam gran ray cero if they weren’t restricted so these fights wouldn’t even last a second warping space and time with a grand ray cero gets through infinity no problem gojo isn’t strong enough to even hurt these guys😂😂😂😂
Edit it’s also stated that EVERY hollow can distort space and time even the fodder hollows so the espada would have literally no problem getting through infinity if you see how they interact with basic hollows. The basic hollow instinctually know not to fw then and they can rip the fabrics of space so gojo stands no chance, these UA-camrs forgot about the first arcs of bleach in there video it’s kindof funny
I like how they just don’t mention Cero at all in this video. But I get it, they're trying to give Gojo a chance, make the video interesting.
But uh, Cero distorts space, and the only thing stopping people from hitting Gojo is the infinite space between him and the attacker... Not to mention Cero are spiritual light, so they’d get through infinity either way.
And even so, all of the Espada are so much stronger than Gojo, that they’d all neg his Infinity via the reiatsu gap.
Gojo's Infinity would get m*lested by a Gillian since they literally spread space out like spreading apart butt cheeks to walkthrough
Meanwhile, Ulquiorra in his base form destroyed an entire dimension and space. Aizen gave each Espada an entire dimension of its own, and Grimmjow tried to trap Ulquiorra in his own dimension so that he could fight against Ichigo. He thought that ulquiorra would be able to destroy it after a day or something like that, since he was an Espada, but Ulquiorra (base form)with his bare hands destroyed the entire dimension and surrounding space in about three hours without even using a single Cero. So gojo can't even be compared to the espada just because infinity , It is enough to know that Ichigo, the first time he gained the power of the Shinigami, fought Urahara and the hollow inside him forA whole week without stopping . This is Ichigo in the first 20 episodes. In terms of endurance and stamina there is no comparison between him and any espada ,as for speed ichigo dodge light attack in ep 13 or 14 from Menos then he got speed blitz by 20/100 shikai renji and he got a power up from zangetsu to make it equal then got speed blitz by base 20/100 byakuya This Ichigo is at least a hundred times slower than the weakest Espada in his base form , so there is not even a comparison between him and the weakest Espada in speed as for iq and biq he can take it for some of them but not all of them and that's it every thing else there is no comparison.
Some techniques the Espada have and a few while in Resurrección distort, sever or destroy spacetime. Specially true when you also consider Gran Rey Cero, that does it instantly. So, outside of hax wins against an Espada that can't do any of the above, the Espada win.
And even then, Reiatsu pressure can be used to stun Gojo or outright kill him, since it permeates everything and can't be rejected by Infinity. Why kill? He would be considered by Bleach lore like that of a Fullbringer. A human with extras. A human fighting an Espada? The reiatsu difference is definitely a factor. Not to mention, how is Gojo gonna scale up to the weakest Espada if not by spamming Purple since it negates durability? The power diff is too much.
Last but not least, bear in mind that in Bleach, reiatsu works like a hax AND antihax power system, meaning the stronger reiatsu can and will mitigate or nullify the hax of the weaker opponent. Something the curse energy power system under verse= does not have.
Ulquiorra is so damn fast he will just bypass infinity with that raw speed
i mean soul society ichigo surpassed light speed, anyone on captain level is light speed and when he released his reiatsu captains where surprised
Yall might’ve watched bleach but didn’t actually pay attention. Humans can’t even be near weaker level espada. Their spiritual pressure alone will literally asphyxiate them. Gojo either stalemates or loses. Unless he explains infinity then he just loses. Gran ray cero should definitely distort infinity and Gojo won’t survive the explosion
Even base cero are light and would bypass it
If Szayelaporro managed to catch Gojo in his wings, the gauntlet would have ended right there.
The gauntlet ends in the first round cero and grand Rey cero go brrrr
And gojo has no conceivable way to kill even the fish bowl domain expansion would not turn off hierro which is a passive always on ability and worst case it makes the the espada lose control overe their reiatsu having them go to max output dusting gojo
Wouldn't he technically be able to? It could surround Gojo and swallow him and infinity up since it has pretty small range. Although if it had to make physical contact with Gojo to analyze him then that might be a problem.
I think that ability wise, you guys understimate Harribel's ability, the ability to just manipulate water, it means she could manipulate the water that form part of the air... Which means she could either trap Gojo in a cage of water, or if this fails because the Infinity pushes the water that appears out, she could just make it that around that barrier the water doesn't pass by drawing from the water of that section and using it for attacks distracting him from the fact that she is slowly but sure chocking him to death.
Hell, maybe she could even Bloodbend him
She can just use cero.
Did y’all forget the gran Rey cero distorts the “fabric” of space? All espada’s have this so gojo ain’t even making it past number 9
Gojo gets cleared by every single espada except for probably Aaroniero simply because he isn’t that strong and doesn’t have any hax
He technically can have a lot of hax...but even so we never saw them since he got sneak stabbed to death. Death by cockiness. His glutonoria can absorb any ability of the opponent he consumes, so he has the potential to have god knows how many abilities. But alas all we see him do is like...shoot some water.
@@paledrake True he probably is strong due to his abilities but he also has gran Rey cero which I don’t see Gojo having a counter against that
@@bean0200 Yeah and even without it he probably has enough power to just neg Gojo's abilities like Aizen did to Soi Fon.
Congrats on at least a year of UA-cam community bro
The lowest speed feat in the soul society arc is when uryu escaped his shadow, comfortably putting anyone equal to and greater than him at ftl speeds
Even if you somehow ignore that aaroniero during his fight with rukia dodged a literal beam of light
Isn’t a lot of this verse capable of bending or slashing space causally…hollows even at the weakest level Menos can tear thru dimensions or warp space..1-4 transforming would’ve had this same affect
Grimmjows gran Rey cero or any espadas gran Rey cero makes it gojover
The weakest fodder in bleach is faster than gojo 💀
He could be completely still and they wouldn't be fast enough to hit him so idk why speed would matter. Sure maybe there are abilities that can somehow bypass infinity but at that point it's basically down to choice of whoever is making the argument or writing the fight.
@@CC-of5xl hell even chad could beat gojo
2:44 After reading the fanfic 'Not Quite As Planned', I started calling this guy Triple A. It's far easier that way
even if the espada get caught in the domain, which is a massiveeee if, gojo is not strong enough to even damage them lmao
Menos and Arrancar can travel through dimensions and open rifts
I doubt Gojo"s domain could even hold them
@ I forget they can just open the garganta lmao
If Gojo was a hero in the OPM verse, what rank would he be and which disaster level monster would he lose to? Another interesting debate would be putting Gojo in the Mashle verse, would he be a divine visionary? And in the world of mages and sorcery, would Gojo find his match there?
Hey, first of all thanks for the support!!
Unfortunately I don't read OPM or Mashle, but it sounds like I might have to lmao I get a lot of recommendations. I'll keep this in mind and push them up my read list!! I love these gojo gauntlets they're fun (: I wanna do them eventually with most series if I can keep it up hahaha
Before watching, I'm just gonna say this. Reiatsu can negate hax as we saw when Aizen negged Soi Fon's shikai. If we equalized Reiatsu to be the same as let's say physical strength or AP, Gojo is not beating Espada 4 and above.
Las Noches according to some calcs should have a diameter between 500 to 1000 km. So Las Noches is basically around the size of California or Myanmar. The Espada are forbidden to use Gran Rey Cero inside Las Noches because it has a possibility to destroy it (Grimmjow's base GRC warped the space in Las Noches and Halibel's Fracciones said that Grimmjow shouldn't use the technique inside Las Noches). Then there's Espada 4 and above who are not allowed to release their Zanpakuto inside Las Noches. So Espada 4 and above should be country level by releasing their Zanpakuto. And I'm not going to talk about R2 Ulquiorra who fought VL Ichigo (this version of the fight in the Hell Verse movie is the more canon version as Kubo said, but he didn't have the time)
It doesnt negate hax, it can overpower abilities affecting them but not js negate hax
L take
All head canon 😂
@Greatibekwe as yes my favorite headcannon somethingstated and shown in the source material like negation
@@wewillrockyou3272 nothing was ever stated or shown. You're just making things up 🤷
I was gonna make a comment on how I disagree and what i believe was incorrect but that's like most of this comment section so I'm not gonna bother, but fun video no op, hope your having a good one
Gojo vs the Sternritter would be interesting. Kinda want to see how Lille Barro's X - Axis would interact with Gojo's infinity
The x axis erases anything between the muzzle and the target. Gojo gets oneshot
Just like any espada here no diff gojo it would be even easier for the Sternritter
Welcome back to putting gojo in fights he stands no chance 🗿
Most cases in bleach mind hacks is overcomed by stronger spiritual pressure
Even ignoring gran rey cero distorting space and likely ignoring infinity because of it (for anyone curious, the source is page 1 of chapter 282), the Espada are so obsecenely fast they could easily Sonido or even just run out of Infinite Void before the Barrier is finished forming, and with them being lightspeed minimum, would easily escape Gojo's .2 domain too since they would see the forming of the barrier. And (Major manga spoilers for any anime onlies reading
Even with Gojo using RCT to recover his innate technique, he can only pop domain so many times before frying his domain, at which point the downtime from the fried brain and his technique recovery would likely lead either to Gojo's death or a draw from the Espada maybe not learning of the burnout, but chances are with their high BIQ (Excluding Yammy) and it having to be popped multiple times, they'd learn and take advantage of it.
soul society ichigo was above light speed and we arent even talking about his bankai, all captain level soul reapers are light speed and ichigo was able to beat many captains
The fact that Apollo's Vasto Lorde form was the strongest here is also crazy considering how weak he was without his Vasto Lorde form.
I don’t understand how unlimited void will effect people who can process information at a higher rate than most jjk characters from most bleach characters perspective it will feel like what happened to pzlaparou again miyuri where everything is happening slowly at best more like a distraction bleach characters. I don’t see infinity playing a big part because I think it depends on atoms which which most bleach characters use reiatsu which doesn’t have atoms.
14:05 i dont really think this argument works, bc when those cursed spirits were hit with unlimited void, it was only for 0.2 seconds, and it still took long enough that all the transfigured humans died, and gojo got sealed, they were stunlocked for a good minute, so if the cursed spirits were hit for like more than 30 seconds, they would prob take a month to recover
Thing is Espada 6 and above even if they somehow get caught in Domain Expansion, they basically impenetrable for someone like Gojo
All 10 Espada*
I feel like this is having your cake and eating it too. If spiritual pressure can equate to cursed energy, everything gojo can do get's negated, if spiritual pressure has nothing to do with cursed energy, then Gojo just dies by standing next to anyone on par with a captain, which is practically this whole list.
I think gojo can at best draw some espada, and even if hit by domain expansion gojo cant kill them since them just standing and taking hits from gojo results into 0 damage, espadas are 10x times faster than light in base forms and with ressurecions they are 100times faster , so at best gojo draws them but he never wins, also espadas gran ray cero can bypass infinity since its 100x of times faster than light since it stacks with ressurecion and then cero on top of that so gojo loses against any espada but might be able to draw couple of them
Ceros being light and grand Rey cero being light and distorting space even base hollows tear space like tissue infinity isn’t doing shit he dies instantly in the first round
One thing to note: Starrk has infinite Reiatsu. If we use the Reiatsu rule here, then he kills Gojo just by standing there simply because he has enough Reiatsu to immediately fill Infinity.
no every member of the Espada solo the verse
something that is truly needed to think about is the spiritual pressure we've seen that if you don't have enough no attacks will work on you and you will get crushed by the other persons sp i think this is something that needs to be discussed
I think you guys are forgetting that Limitless is very much so limited by cursed energy capacity. In the video so far it seems you guys are considering Gojo has infinite cursed energy and can just negate everything forever. The more Limitless is used, the more Gojo's cursed energy is spent. He can absolutely be wiped in a battle of endurance against people like Nnoitra and Grimmjow who he can never one shot (especially Nnoitra, he was brawling with Zaraki of all people who has AP far above Gojo)
Six Eyes lol
And before you say that also taxes him... RCT loop lol
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 rct also cost energy
@@lidric2191 Which is infinitesimal because of the Six Eyes, and the Six Eyes can never be exhausted because of constant RCT
Hence the loop
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 You are incorrect. Sukuna pushed Gojo to the point that he was almost out of CE. I'll say it again: Gojo fans only think he's unbeatable because they don't know how limitless ACTUALLY works. AND we also have proof that Gojo gets TIRED if forced to over exert himself. He. Cannot. Fight. Forever.
@@remus4283 More like Sukuna pushed Gojo to the point where he was giving himself brain damage to restore his CT after constant domain spam
In regards to the Arrancar being "spiritual" sort of entities vs human beings, there are at the very least some similarities as far as bodily function goes. In Ulquiorra's final fight with Ichigo (when Zangetsu/White took over & he gained his Vasto Lorde hollow form), he states that due to all of the damage he had to endure while fighting that version of Ichigo that "he has lost vital organs that he can no longer regenerate". Despite "seemingly" being unaffected on a surface level, but he also says that (in the process of becoming an Espada) he forfeited his regeneration's effectiveness in favor of its speed, which coincidentally made it the fastest amongst all of the other Espada. Either way, my point was that despite him not even being remotely close to what a human being is, his body and its physical anatomy have to be at least somewhat similar, especially if his death was ultimately the result of having vital organs obliterated that he couldn't regenerate.
jjk vs bleach exactly what we needed no op ‼️
I feel like you could argue that, since Orihime's barriers alter reality, and even base Yammy gets through those with little issue, that any of the Espada could just punch straight through Limitless
Correct even baseline hollows tear space like tissue paper
Didn’t finish the vid and commenting my thoughts before watching. I’ll update if the vid makes me change my mind
All of the Espada stomp Gojo. Even fodder hollows can bend/destroy space. Which is how they get from Hueco Mundo to the living world. It’s shown on panel that Gillains literally grab and break the fabric of space with their bare hands. So Espada tier hollows who can outright destroy (unknown sided) space time dimensions like Caja Negacion are negging Gojo’s infinity
That’s not even taking into account the fact that superior stats negate hax in Bleach so infinity is useless. Worst case scenario if you wanna give the maximum benefit of a doubt, they blow through infinity with a Gran Rey Cero that has both spatial manipulation and the raw AP to overpower Gojo via Bleach logic
Gojo doesn’t have the AP or durability to keep up with even Fraccion or Priveeon Espada as Fraccion have the stats to keep up with LT level and restrained Captain level Shinigami, and giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying him, Sukuna and Kashimo are Lightspeed or beyond from Kenjaku’s Black Hole reaction and Sukuna reacting to Kashimo’s EM waves, that puts Gojo on a similar speed tier to drained and exhausted LTs like Hisagi and Rangiku from the SS Arc
Hollow Purple wouldn’t cut it as Sukuna could block it and they resist spatial based hax and subatomic hax via being able to resist Quincy absorption. Gojo’s is atomic based space hax
And unlimited void is too slow to hit and even if it does their superior energy negates his hard. Gojo has no win cons
grimjow has his gran rey cero
cero can warp reality and space just like the sky manipulation of uro
Every espada can use grand Rey cero
Sooooo Gojo can only win if we take away all of espadas speed, strength and natural healing abilities…. Cool. Yes Gojo has infinity but infinity has never been put through the damage output that it would take from the espada. I actually wonder what would happen if Gojo was placed in the deepest parts of the ocean. Would the outside pressure crush him within his own ability? Or would he have to provide a secondary barrier to push against his own barrier so that he doesn’t die. How much cursed energy would that take?
And eve. With all that he’d lack the power to actually do damage
here's how strong being able to destroy Las Noches is, you have to destroy the outside, as well as the pocket dimension that is the inside.
Would Gojo even be able to do major damage to the higher Espada after Unlimited Void? Im not sure how Hierro works, thats why im asking. I remember Yoruichi who is MUCH MUCH stronger than Gojo actually damaged herself when physically beating on Yami who was number 10 at that time. Also I though Cero f-ed with space or something, so how would that interact with Limitless
Only Gran Rey Cero distorts space
200%hollow purple?😂yea espada tank that shit while drinking
@@IqbalEvolusi Even if it was an infinite% Hollow Purple it'd still basically not exist for them cuz it's so weak🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
...not sure if it _is_ that insane, but still
@@thomasthecoolkid7228yeah wasnt sure.
No, he'd be like a normal human wailing on a solid metal wall. Even hollow purple isn't strong enough to deal any damage to their Hierro excluding maybe Aarroniero because glass container.
I'd say that Ulquiorra himself would be a challenge. So if you add upper ranked to the fight like 3, 2 & 1.. Gojo would be overwhelmed.
Gojo gets overwhelmed and one shot by the weakest espada infinity is useless even base hollow tear space like tissue paper one cero and it over
How do you think the Limitless interacts with Kyoka Suigetsu?
Infinity gets negged even yhwach's Almighty didn't even recongnise being effected by kyoka and even when he realized it he couldn't break out of it gojo looks at aizen and he's done
Kyoka Suigetsu vastly out scales limitless, even Yhwach who thought he had broken Kyoka Suigetsu was still under Kyoka Suigetsu even with the Almighty, meaning every timeline & future he was seeing & every future he was picking in those moments were all under Kyoka Suigetsu. You could consider this a multiversal feat as each different timeline & future Yhwach was seeing & choosing was essentially being altered by Aizen. Kyoka Suigetsu has been shown to be the only ability to counter the Almighty & essentially bypass Almighty's ability to completely nullify another power against it. But just note that because Aizen became so much powerful than before, & how well he used Kyoka Suigetsu, Kyoka Suigetsu became just as powerful as well, remember that Shinigami & a Zanpakuto are two different souls but are essentially one.
Kyoka Suigetsu doesn't travel it literaly manifests on the soul in an instant
@@Kenos347 I was meaning more if it could make Limitless not register things as hostile, given that Gojo basically set it up to be automatic.
@@Zalgardis That is posible,KS is perfect hypnosis it can make lava look like ice and mess around with evrything and the victim wouldn't even know it's under the effects
You can literally bypass infinity by putting your domain around yourself which, if we mixing the power systems that would be the resèureccion. Also when gojo uses de he can’t use his cursed technique, and there is no way he kills some of these espada with nothing but hands. And not to mention they have been alive for way longer than most jjk characters so they would have a much higher resistance to unlimited void.
He does not make it past 9, do not glaze gojo in death
i feal like if Mayuri knew about unlimited void, he would make that drug that he used on the pink headed guy, but better to withstand it for longer since it nigh-infinitely accelerates thought and perception speeds.
Man this cope was something else
We also have to take into account the durability of these characters. Could Gojo's attacks actually deal any sort of damage that would be fatal? Even if he got off the domain.
Gojo or his Overrated infinity can't do shit against top teir espadas 🤷 because they gave spacial manipulation and way superior ap and speed
Gojo wouldn’t be able to kill a Gillian
@@logandelaharpe6362 because of there cero which have space manipulation right ?
@@yashmehta4087 open garganta,that space manipulation between 3realms
one thing about reiatsu, is that is could simply be used to overwhelm gojo and his limitless, crushing his soul. As he is much weaker then them, the reiatsu of any decently strong espada would be deadly to gojo. And his limitless wouldn't necessarily be able to protect him from it either as it directly targets the soul.
Would infinity protect Gojo from Baragon’s senescence ability
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Espada sonido outside of Gojo’s domain, breaks it form the outside, kills him while in CT burnout. There, battle over.
side note for infinity but its not really a barrier so idk if zommaris eye thing would be stopped by it because dankus a tangible barrier where as infinity isnt
still think gojo beats him btw, just a little heads up about it
You are wrong. Zomari defeats Gojo. Infinity only affects attacks that travel. This is why Gojo died the way he did. Attacks that directly apply themselves to the target are not stopped by infinity. Also Gojo does not have the damage output to kill ANY Espada. Lastly his domain would instantly shatter from captain level spiritual pressure.
@@remus4283
all im saying is that the barrier byakuya used isnt the same as infinity and i could see zommari getting past it with his eye control thing, i can see if you see zomari winning but i got gojo winning more if you want to rule that blinking ability out
the world slash sukuna used traveled, it just cut through space and anything within said space (gojo, kashimo, etc)
obviously none of his attacks could kill an espada thats why they explained DE as his biggest wincon
The Gran Ray Cero distorts space. Now, I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that infinity is useless against weapons or abilities that distort space... (Hint hint)
Doesn't hollow purple act like a delete button? So wouldn't any enemy hit by it just cease to exist?
At this point we dont know what Hollow Purple does since Gege makes it seem like Space Dismantle can't be blocked but Purple can (with Sukuna's enhanced hands).
Gege clarified that falling blosom and simple domain don't negate ct's so that probably means Sukuna tanked Purple with ce enhancement (I'm assuimg that's what his enhanced arms were that tanked 200% purple).
With the explanation of Red and Blue, Purple should delete matter but now it seems likes its just an energy beam.
Gege nerfing purple for not one-shooting sukuna because he has to be the final villain is kinda infuriating, but y'know, Sukuna couldn't die there anyway@@kingofheroes1096
Sukuna tanked a 200% hollow Purple at the start of the battle and Survived a second towards the end.
Nope, that was an assumption for a long, long time. Hollow Purple in fact is A LOT weaker the people though it would be, it is not reality erasure, functionally it is just a strong energy blast that can be defended against.
No it has been tanked multiple times. Also it is extremely slow compares to Bleach speed.
It's funny that Barragan also has the effect of slowing Soi Fon as she gets closer to him.
Edit: "Gojo vs Aizen is something that may come later if you guys are interested." Aizen, seriously? When it's not certain Gojo would beat some of the lower-rank Espada, how would he beat someone who canonically is stronger than all of them together? Not to mention he was doing the whole psychological/planning thing before Gege had likely even conceived of Kenjaku, who himself used those tactics to beat Gojo. I like Gojo, but come on lol... even the lieutenant version of Aizen wins this
Gojo would not be able to do anything to them. If someone is stronger then their opponent the hax of the opponent are ignored or negated. A gran ray cero distorted space time. That alone is something that will one shot gojo. Also they are made of light. The more reiatsu the more powerful and faster. Also before doing verse battles please read the data books and info regarding bleach before doing this. Gojo literally gets curbed stomped by any of the 9 espada.
Grand Rey Cero one shots. Every espada has it. They'd play with him for a bit and then one shot him.
another detail yall glossed over. the Noveno Espada has a unique ability. he can transfer data about the battle he just had. and we see that with the Octava Espada Szayelaporro Granz, he filled his older brother Yylfordt Granz with his "Rokureichū" (録霊蟲, Spirit-Recording Bugs). these allowed him to collect battle data on Renji. so it's the same sorta thing. this allowed him to completely obliterate Renji's Bankai without even touching it. it just shattered, because Szayel was able to study it's reishi composition thanks to his Rokureichū. in other words, doing it gauntlet style is perfect for the Espada.
a couple more reasons why Szayel he would be the perfect counter for Gojo. his "Hollow Purple" technique is very similar to a technique we saw used against him. "Cero Sincrético". performed by two separate characters, sure. but the idea is the same. and he split it apart. in theory, he should be able split the "Hollow Purple" into its constituent parts. thereby rendering it useless. i mean it would still blow up behind him. but it wouldn't damage him. yet another reason Szayel would be the perfect counter. we see his "Teatro de Titere" is able to completely envelope his opponent. and Gojo, despite his Infinity; is not immune to this form of attack. so i think it would work on him. and Szayel would be able to attack this tricky to hit bastard from the inside. thereby rendering his Infinity... useless. but for real this time.
ultimately, Gojo gets hard countered by the Octava Espada. it's really unfair a matchup
Everyone in bleach don’t play around. They all speed blitz gojo
"d-did we beat barragan, sukuna?"
"no gojo, that was aaroniero"
"That was actually an arroniero clo e made by szayelopporo whoch is 10x weaker than aaraniero"
Zomari and Baragan definitely no-diff Gojo because infinity does not counter their abilities. Zomari's ability is applied (has no travel time) and Baragan's Respira will age the cursed energy that manifests the limitless barrier (yes cursed energy decays, otherwise CE residuals wouldn't fade over time)
Zomari ability was block by a barrier that byakuga but up and yes obviously it travels