This has to be the strangest clock movement I've seen in awhile! Fully brass gears with an electric motor? Wow! This is incredibly reminiscent of plug-in electric clocks. Not only that, but this movement can be fully disassembled which is amazing. What year is this clock?
I have almost the exact same clock. My parents received it as a wedding gift in the early 1980s. The clock will run and strike for a while, then randomly stop working. I'm afraid that the small motor that runs the strike operation is going bad. Do you know if there are replacements for the motor available?
Chris, I recently bought this clock at a garage sale, and after getting it home & placing a new battery in it, was surprised to find it started running. However, here the downside. The clock lost about 17 minutes every 24 hours. With pendulum bob screwed “up” to max travel, it’s still losing about about 7 min / 24 hrs. Plus it’s not striking the time correctly, and striking multiple hours on the Half Hour, and only Single Strike on the Hour. Attempted to take movement out of case to clean and oil. Removed hands and movement Nut removed, plus Got the 4 nuts off on top of the battery holder and single hold-down screw removed at bottom of the case. Movement refuses to budge and appears to be held tightly to inside of the case. Can you offer anything that I’ve left out or need to do further to remove this movement? Also, I viewed the Patent documents in your reply about this movement and assume the movement became the initial design assigned to Timette, Inc. of Chicago. Is this movement still produced or is a suitable replacement available for installation into this Seth Thomas case? My Catalog # is 2334-001, dated February 1988. Does the movement carry a different Identifier. Any help you can offer with be sincerely appreciated. The clock case, face plate, glass / bezel, are in beautiful condition. Thank You. Your’s is the only information I’ve found addressing this particular movement.
@@Chrisclockrepair Chris, have you had any time to look at the movement you have to offer me any thought(s) on how to remove this movement from my clock? I’ve pulled the battery and removed the hands & all “viewable” nuts from face plate, and from the battery case, as well as small hold-down screw at bottom of battery case. I also notice a small “yellow” corner of what appears to possibly be a thin double-backed tape foam pad, sticking out between the movement and the clock case. I’m wondering if that might be what’s holding the movement firm to the case, and whether I should just try to “nudge” the movement out with a small plastic auto trim tool, which I have in my arsenal of tools. Anyway, any thoughts you can share for removing is sincerely appreciated. Also, if you’re “In the Business” of Clock Repair, I might just want to send the movement (if I can get it out) to you for evaluation, cleaning, and oiling. Thanks again. from face plate
@@edvoorhis6230 Hey Ed. Send me photos of what you are looking at to my email and your phone number. I will help you solve it. Chrisclockrepair@gmail.com
Hi Chris! I have a later version of this clock (a handwritten number on the back label says 1178, I'm assuming this may be Nov. 1978?) anyway, I purchased it at an estate sale and cant get to run. If I move the hands past the hours, it strikes as it should, but the clock itself will not run. I suspect maybe something in the movement to do with the pendulum mechanism. What do I need to use to clean and oil the movement in this clock? It must've sat not running for a while, so I feel like it would run if I clean it and oil as you say. Thanks in advance for your help.
@@Chrisclockrepair Thanks for getting back to me Chris. I cleaned and oiled the mechanism and after screwing around with it for a bit, I managed to get it running. Much to my wife's dismay... I grew up with clocks running and chiming and she didn't so its taken a while for her to get used to to it. Thanks again for the post and for the great videos. Cheers!
@@lyvemyche I have this exact clock that I picked up last year from a thrift store. I've been able to get it to run continuously for up to an hour and a half or so and then the pendulum stops. I am sure that things need a good cleaning/oil, but I cannot find any info on where to add oil on this setup. I just ordered the tools necessary to remove the movement from the clock. Do you have any insight you can share as to placement of the oil? Thanks in advance!
Mine was glued to the wooden case too! It took some force (and a little bravery!) to break it free, but I eventually did. If you don't get it free from the wooden case, you're not going to be able to access the internal mechanisms.
mmartin It has whats called a Rewind Switch Mechanism. There is a mechanical spring that will drive it for 3 to five minutes until it winds down at which point, two switches come into contact causing an electrical impulse which winds the spring back up. And this continues over and over. You can read the patent here. patents.google.com/patent/US3258086
Anything that coukd go wrong with a mechanical clock plus what can go wrong with an electric clock. Loss of current, worn pivots, lack of lubrication, worn, cracked or broken parts, etc.
This has to be the strangest clock movement I've seen in awhile! Fully brass gears with an electric motor? Wow! This is incredibly reminiscent of plug-in electric clocks. Not only that, but this movement can be fully disassembled which is amazing. What year is this clock?
Gregola Productions It was my first of its kind. I learned a lot. It is from the 1950’s.
@@Chrisclockrepair Are you sure it's from the 50's? That black plastic looks very 1980's - 2000's, although I could be wrong.
Gregola Productions I am no expert on dating clocks, but based on my searching around its from the 50’s or 60’s.
I have almost the exact same clock. My parents received it as a wedding gift in the early 1980s. The clock will run and strike for a while, then randomly stop working. I'm afraid that the small motor that runs the strike operation is going bad. Do you know if there are replacements for the motor available?
Working again!
Chris, I recently bought this clock at a garage sale, and after getting it home & placing a new battery in it, was surprised to find it started running. However, here the downside. The clock lost about 17 minutes every 24 hours. With pendulum bob screwed “up” to max travel, it’s still losing about about 7 min / 24 hrs. Plus it’s not striking the time correctly, and striking multiple hours on the Half Hour, and only Single Strike on the Hour. Attempted to take movement out of case to clean and oil. Removed hands and movement Nut removed, plus Got the 4 nuts off on top of the battery holder and single hold-down screw removed at bottom of the case. Movement refuses to budge and appears to be held tightly to inside of the case. Can you offer anything that I’ve left out or need to do further to remove this movement? Also, I viewed the Patent documents in your reply about this movement and assume the movement became the initial design assigned to Timette, Inc. of Chicago. Is this movement still produced or is a suitable replacement available for installation into this Seth Thomas case? My Catalog # is 2334-001, dated February 1988. Does the movement carry a different Identifier. Any help you can offer with be sincerely appreciated. The clock case, face plate, glass / bezel, are in beautiful condition. Thank You. Your’s is the only information I’ve found addressing this particular movement.
I will take a look at the movement i have and get back to you
@@Chrisclockrepair
Chris, have you had any time to look at the movement you have to offer me any thought(s) on how to remove this movement from my clock? I’ve pulled the battery and removed the hands & all “viewable” nuts from face plate, and from the battery case, as well as small hold-down screw at bottom of battery case. I also notice a small “yellow” corner of what appears to possibly be a thin double-backed tape foam pad, sticking out between the movement and the clock case. I’m wondering if that might be what’s holding the movement firm to the case, and whether I should just try to “nudge” the movement out with a small plastic auto trim tool, which I have in my arsenal of tools. Anyway, any thoughts you can share for removing is sincerely appreciated. Also, if you’re “In the Business” of Clock Repair, I might just want to send the movement (if I can get it out) to you for evaluation, cleaning, and oiling. Thanks again.
from face plate
@@edvoorhis6230 Hey Ed. Send me photos of what you are looking at to my email and your phone number. I will help you solve it.
Chrisclockrepair@gmail.com
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Edna Oduca Awesome. Thank you.
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Lisa Schroeder Thank you!
Hi Chris! I have a later version of this clock (a handwritten number on the back label says 1178, I'm assuming this may be Nov. 1978?) anyway, I purchased it at an estate sale and cant get to run. If I move the hands past the hours, it strikes as it should, but the clock itself will not run. I suspect maybe something in the movement to do with the pendulum mechanism. What do I need to use to clean and oil the movement in this clock? It must've sat not running for a while, so I feel like it would run if I clean it and oil as you say. Thanks in advance for your help.
These have a very unique mechanism that causes them to run. Not many are going to repair these. Your better off getting a replacement.
@@Chrisclockrepair Thanks for getting back to me Chris. I cleaned and oiled the mechanism and after screwing around with it for a bit, I managed to get it running. Much to my wife's dismay... I grew up with clocks running and chiming and she didn't so its taken a while for her to get used to to it. Thanks again for the post and for the great videos. Cheers!
@@lyvemyche I have this exact clock that I picked up last year from a thrift store. I've been able to get it to run continuously for up to an hour and a half or so and then the pendulum stops. I am sure that things need a good cleaning/oil, but I cannot find any info on where to add oil on this setup. I just ordered the tools necessary to remove the movement from the clock. Do you have any insight you can share as to placement of the oil? Thanks in advance!
How did you remove the movement from the clock? Mind seams to epoxy. From the factory? Do you have another movement you could sell?
Honestly I don’t remember how it was attached. I do not have another movement to sell.
Mine was glued to the wooden case too! It took some force (and a little bravery!) to break it free, but I eventually did. If you don't get it free from the wooden case, you're not going to be able to access the internal mechanisms.
What drives time train in this strange movement
mmartin It has whats called a Rewind Switch Mechanism. There is a mechanical spring that will drive it for 3 to five minutes until it winds down at which point, two switches come into contact causing an electrical impulse which winds the spring back up. And this continues over and over. You can read the patent here.
patents.google.com/patent/US3258086
Question what can cause an electromechanical clock time train to jam while running
Anything that coukd go wrong with a mechanical clock plus what can go wrong with an electric clock. Loss of current, worn pivots, lack of lubrication, worn, cracked or broken parts, etc.
@@Chrisclockrepair this one in question is a linden electromechanical bim bam I habe two videos of on my channel if you would like to watch them
Would have been nice if you had shown us how to get the movement out of the case. Mine won't come out.
Sorry about that. I no longer have the clock to show you.
I have an Elgin clock in my collection that uses the same movement
Need hole unit for Seth Thomas takes 2 c battery