So this kit makes bow ties that don't add structural integrity to the crack? Is there a template kit that allows for thicker bow ties? A longer router bit maybe?
Probably some gifted people can visualize how the collars work. Remember that the small diameter cuts the key, or "tenon". The large diameter cuts the trough, or "mortise". Another way to think of it is that the small diameter cuts on the outside of the key, and the large diameter moves the router bit to the inside of the trough.
Clear video and well done but I only make bowties for checks that I must stabilize so make them much thicker and chisel out the mortise after routing it close to the line as possible.
@@TheOldJarhead just to be clear before I lay the money out for a router and Rockler Bow System... the coller you use CAN work with a Ryobi? (thank you for your help)
@@BillyMacDesign I can't speak to your specific purchases. However, most routers have a collet insert for smaller bits when buying one with a 1/2" chuck. I try only to buy the 1/2" bits but have 1/4" bits as well and use the insert to neck down to them. As far as bits, I typically use the smaller straight cut bits and cut close as I can to the shape I want and finish with a chisel. I have a video I plan to post sometime in the near future on doing just that for 1" bowties.
Hi. Can you help, please? I have the Dewalt DCW600 1/4" plunge router. In the UK the opening in the router base does not have that centre inset to accept tye brass guide-bushes. It's much wider. I have the UJK guide-bush set, which I believe are the same dimensions to the Portacable ones. With a 30mm screw thread. I have written to Dewalt several times and major UK carpentry suppliers and nobody can help. It is the centre inset with elongated slots you can see when you are fitting a guide-bush in your video. I would very much appreciate getting to the bottom of this. Thanks
Dear Rocklers, I wonder IF I press the sides with pipe clamps forcing the crack to 'close' and just then, dig the hole for the tie and glue it, will make a better looking job. Any thoughts? Many thanks. Kind regards from São Paulo - Brazil 🇧🇷
Hi Marcelo, typically bow tie inlays aren't really meant to be a way to hide a crack. Additionally, the ability for a bow tie under 1/2" thick to hold a crack closed successfully will depend on how thick the board is to begin with, how wide the crack is, what the wood species is and why the crack has happened in the first place. Experimentation will be the only way to prove out how well a bow tie will effectively keep a crack closed. It might be more productive in the end to use the bow tie as a way to accent the crack and to make both the bow tie and the crack design elements of the piece. If your ultimate goal is to make the crack disappear, consider ripping the board on either side of the crack, flattening the cut edges on a jointer and re-gluing the board. The crack will be gone and so might the source of stress that created the crack in the first place.
Hi Mark! Bow tie templates like these should be held in place with a sturdy, double-stick tape product. The typical choice is carpet tape, which you can find at any hardware store or home center. But Rockler also has a more convenient solution that comes in 1/2"-diameter "dots" with adhesive on both sides. They're made for sticking templates to wood. Here's a link: www.rockler.com/rockler-2-sided-stick-it-dots
Clearest video on this subject that I have seen to date. Excellent.
Thanks, glad to hear it!
I always enjoy your clear concise videos Chris.
Just ordered my kit and extra templates, looking forward to adding this to my shop
Thank you for the video Chris
So this kit makes bow ties that don't add structural integrity to the crack? Is there a template kit that allows for thicker bow ties?
A longer router bit maybe?
Hi Andrew Bland, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll be able to assist you. Thank you
Pretty cool 👍
Has anyone ever mixed up which part has the collar and which doesn't? Asking for a friend.
Probably some gifted people can visualize how the collars work. Remember that the small diameter cuts the key, or "tenon". The large diameter cuts the trough, or "mortise". Another way to think of it is that the small diameter cuts on the outside of the key, and the large diameter moves the router bit to the inside of the trough.
Clear video and well done but I only make bowties for checks that I must stabilize so make them much thicker and chisel out the mortise after routing it close to the line as possible.
not so clear...I need to know what kind of router he uses and can I use any other brand of router
@@BillyMacDesign doesn't matter what router you use. it's the bit that does the work. I use a Ryobi plunge router myself
@@TheOldJarhead just to be clear before I lay the money out for a router and Rockler Bow System... the coller you use CAN work with a Ryobi? (thank you for your help)
@@BillyMacDesign I can't speak to your specific purchases. However, most routers have a collet insert for smaller bits when buying one with a 1/2" chuck. I try only to buy the 1/2" bits but have 1/4" bits as well and use the insert to neck down to them. As far as bits, I typically use the smaller straight cut bits and cut close as I can to the shape I want and finish with a chisel. I have a video I plan to post sometime in the near future on doing just that for 1" bowties.
Hi. Can you help, please? I have the Dewalt DCW600 1/4" plunge router. In the UK the opening in the router base does not have that centre inset to accept tye brass guide-bushes. It's much wider. I have the UJK guide-bush set, which I believe are the same dimensions to the Portacable ones. With a 30mm screw thread. I have written to Dewalt several times and major UK carpentry suppliers and nobody can help. It is the centre inset with elongated slots you can see when you are fitting a guide-bush in your video. I would very much appreciate getting to the bottom of this. Thanks
Hi Terry Lindop, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll be able to assist you. Thank you
Hey i have the exact same problem man.
Did you get to the bottom of this? Would love to hear how you solved this..
Should I clamp the split closed before installing the bowtie
Hi thomas cooke, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll be able to assist you. Thank you
Dear Rocklers, I wonder IF I press the sides with pipe clamps forcing the crack to 'close' and just then, dig the hole for the tie and glue it, will make a better looking job.
Any thoughts? Many thanks.
Kind regards from São Paulo - Brazil
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Hi Marcelo, typically bow tie inlays aren't really meant to be a way to hide a crack. Additionally, the ability for a bow tie under 1/2" thick to hold a crack closed successfully will depend on how thick the board is to begin with, how wide the crack is, what the wood species is and why the crack has happened in the first place. Experimentation will be the only way to prove out how well a bow tie will effectively keep a crack closed. It might be more productive in the end to use the bow tie as a way to accent the crack and to make both the bow tie and the crack design elements of the piece. If your ultimate goal is to make the crack disappear, consider ripping the board on either side of the crack, flattening the cut edges on a jointer and re-gluing the board. The crack will be gone and so might the source of stress that created the crack in the first place.
What brand of Plunge router should I use..... does it matter?
Hi Billy McGlone, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll be able to assist you. Thank you
Can this be done with a palm router?
Yes, it can. You're not cutting that deep and you are using a 1/4" shank bit.
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Hello, this is available on our website at - www.rockler.com/rockler-bow-tie-inlay-system - Thanks!
Very well video! What model is your router? Thanks so much
Hi Jaime, you can find the router used here www.rockler.com/dewalt-dwp611pk-compact-router-bdl
@@rockler thanks so much
What tape do you use ?
Hi Mark! Bow tie templates like these should be held in place with a sturdy, double-stick tape product. The typical choice is carpet tape, which you can find at any hardware store or home center. But Rockler also has a more convenient solution that comes in 1/2"-diameter "dots" with adhesive on both sides. They're made for sticking templates to wood. Here's a link: www.rockler.com/rockler-2-sided-stick-it-dots
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Ancient cultures used the basic idea for stone work .
Interesting, but I like more "practical" solutions.
(Like using bowties for actual structural strengthening.)
But that's just my opinion.....
Make it wooden with the help of the Woodbex instructions.